Nice! I'm going here with my JLUR in May. This reminds me of wheeling with my '18 lifted Outback... then I bought a Wrangler and basically now take a nap while the Jeep does everything for me, it wakes me up after climbing anything. :D
Thank you guys again for the great time! You guys are just the best, most courteous hosts and do a wonderful job with everything y’all do. As great as the trails are and the content you publish here what I really find most special is total strangers coming together and forming friendships. The dinner and campfire talk at the end of the day just chitchatting and finding out about mutual friends or similar/opposite upbringing was so cool. As you’ve said before we really are more similar than different and the world needs more people like Prodigal Overland bringing folks together. Thank you!!
Thanks you so much for the kind words. We enjoyed as always having you out. And really, truly love that we were able to allow you to be apart of the story. Hope we get to meet up again!
So much fun seeing the footage after sitting in the drivers seat! Will definitely invest in an action camera before the next one! Thanks guys for the great weekend!
I like the looks of the Offroad Animal Rock Rails w/side step the best of all of the manufacturers but I did not realize that they offer absolutely no protection whatsoever to that pinch weld underneath. Bummer!
@@jimwheeler6094 wait though, if you look, you can see that my Jeep with the ORA stuff still allows a normal jack if needed on the factory body pick up points... I mean, I'll use a high lift (because they're built into the rock trails) but if you don't have a high lift, the factory stuff is still an option.. It's still plenty protected obviously because we came out unscathed 😉
@@lamecwedsi, yeah, nope, no thanks, not interested. That was what I was going to get but that was before I discovered that it does not protect the pinch weld like the Mopar and Chief Products Rock Rails do. The only reason that you came out unscathed this time is because you did not come down onto any rocks that would impact the pinch weld and shove it up into the unibody. As far as I'm concerned it is a poor design.
Really glad the air suspension is back on track, a lesson learned for my 2021 Trailhawk (Ladyhawk) to let her breathe awhile if she's miss behaving. I know it's a family adventure for your all, I got to say your kids' narration speaks to their growing knowledge, well done Brad, you're a great dad (they are their father's kids). Sorry you didn't make it to California, but smart to be safe. Per your recommendation ordered my first Chief product for the trany, ok I also ordered a floor jack, the skids plates are heavy!
Brad, I have a 2018 Trailhawk myself and I had the front drop and give me the service suspension warning...took to the dealer and no issues found. Has been working pretty good since then. It seems both of our Jeeps have "personality"! Keep up the good work and hopefully I'll catch up with you sometime.
Also at the top of the big hill climb there was a huge wall and I actually bottomed out on it. Maybe I did a different trail but I got a snake badge and did get to the top where you were at the end of the video
Amazing performance again.........but you definitely need a meaner tyre pattern for that rock work! And lower tyre pressures to ensure more grip. Thanks
Great video Brad! A little too rough and tumble for us yet. We’ll be checking out some of the more “scenic” trails in the Sedona area in April while you’re in our home state of Michigan I think. Keep up the good work!
I'm just going to blurt this out , Faulken wild peak 3s A/T .... Just try em , I ran goodyear & nitto all terrains on my Patriot but the Faulkens have surpassed all expectations out in this Ouachita clay .
I ordered a manual Gladiator which is already built, but won't ship from toledo because of the recall. Starting to think I should cancel my deposit and just buy out my trailhawk v8 lease.
No offense intended here but i have a 01 wj with solid axles and open diffs that has tackled harder trails out here in az with less difficulty. I do have a 4.5 inch lift though on solid axles.
Every owner of jeep grand cherokee must laughs hearing - this car has his own personality and fix itself 😂 😂 😂 My mirrors this week decide close and open itself each time I close and open my Jeep by fob. Wish it will stay like this 😂
I believe that the behavior of the folding mirrors are a setting in the EVIC. As for the Quadra-Lift system fixing itself, if there is a leak and some of the UHP Nitrogen escapes, the system will take in outside air to compensate with absolutely no notification that it is doing it. The outside air that it takes into the sytem may prevent you from being stranded but it thoroughly contaminates the system with moisture which usually isn't a problem until the weather becomes cold enough to freeze the moisture, which then wreaks havoc with the Quadra-Lift system.
@@ProdigalOverland, every airline fitting at the end of each airline in the Quadra-Lift system relies on an o-ring at either end of the fitting to seal in the UHP Nitrogen. The front airstruts also have large o-rings at the top and bottom of the airbag. The o-rings lose their elasticity as they age and in freezing weather they contract and lose their seal. That is why the vast majority of Quadra-Lift system failures occur in freezing weather. The Quadra-Lift system will draw in outside air in order to try and compensate for the lost UHP Nitrogen, unbeknownst to you, as there is no notification that it is doing it, and from what I understand there is no way to determine if it has done it in the past. The outside air contaminates the sytem with moisture which wreaks havoc when it freezes in the system, with it either blocking the airlines or freezing the valves in the valve control block closed. If you start your JGC in freezing weather and you hear a loud banging noise coming from the right front of the JGC, that is the Quadra-Lift compressor self destructing while it's trying to pump up and level a frozen Quadra-Lift system.
@@jimwheeler6094 behavior of my mirrors depend of the mood of my Jeep if he is happy he let the mirror open if he is affected by rain he decide to not open them by fob and it not depend of Evic. About Quadra lift suspension I was in the impression that the system is close and compressor is only for increase pressure and move gas between tank and system.
Please let me know if you come close to Nashville, TN. I’ve been going off road since 12/84. I now have that CJ 7 1985, , 2019 Rubicon, 2022 Overland. Anything will go off with you, I’m sure. ) I if you come to Nashville, LBL, Windrock, please let me know. If you come to Nashville area, LBL, Windrock, please let me know!
I’m sure we will do another trip to windrock at sometime. If you head over to our website and register for our email list you will receive information on our next round of trips. Once we schedule them. www.prodigaloverland.com
@@ProdigalOverland thanks man. My wife’s doesn’t have low range and I was curious if it was capable of this trail. I think I have my answer. Great content and thanks very much!
@@ProdigalOverland That makes me wonder about the main differences between the two systems. I know the Grand Cherokee definitely has better software, but the hardware component should almost even them out.
@@macmurfy2jka I'd say the Grand and KL are both capable of off roading in various situations. Grand is going to be more comfy though an more power with the hemi
I talk about it in the video at the end. But it sat for a while off the trail and leveled itself out. When I started it back up the system was working again.
Hallo Brad. I have jepp grand cherokee 2011 overland 177kw 241 hp. I leave in Germany. I have problemm with my car. Sometimes don't krank,don't start. When the engine are cold everutime start. When hot sometimes is katastrophal.Dont't crank,don't start. I went to the Jeep but they didn't find anything.After about 30-40 minutes starts without problems. I have a big headache because of this. In Germany mechanics don't know much about mechanics. Unless the tester tells them something. I do not know what to do,i don't know where to go. If you can give me some advice on what to do. Wait for response. Thanks
Hi there! Unfortunately I am not a mechanic. My professional background is actually in physiotherapy. I could Probably do better a diagnosing back pain than your engine trouble. Sorry I Can’t be more help.
wooow you are all tough guys !! respect to you! Great job !!! Brad i have question to you! I am going to purchase chief products low fascia guard and suspension plate guard. So I should to install first low fascia protection and then suspension plate right? Suspension plate bolts on under low fascia guard? And if i take heavy duty suspension plate, and i have hemi engine,so when i will need to change oil filter,i just remove bolts and suspension plate,and front low fascia guard will be bolted on “radiator frame” anyway correct? And when I changed oil filter i have to bolt on suspension plate under front low fascia? It seems like front low fascia guard and suspension guard are screwed on the same bolts to the car underneath. Sorry for my English and i hope that you understood what did i mean. Ty for your reply!
The Sump plate fits under the lower front guard and over the front differential (mopar) Plate behind it. You want the sump plate with the whole for the oil changes for the V8. Unless you really enjoy removing armor plating. And yes they share the same holes. Hopefully that helps!
@@ProdigalOverland and do I really need to buy heavy duty sump plate or normal duty for v8 with the whole will be enough protection for the car? Thank you so much!
Just love how you guys wheel with the Grand Cherokees.
Thanks!
Nice! I'm going here with my JLUR in May. This reminds me of wheeling with my '18 lifted Outback... then I bought a Wrangler and basically now take a nap while the Jeep does everything for me, it wakes me up after climbing anything. :D
Thank you guys again for the great time! You guys are just the best, most courteous hosts and do a wonderful job with everything y’all do. As great as the trails are and the content you publish here what I really find most special is total strangers coming together and forming friendships. The dinner and campfire talk at the end of the day just chitchatting and finding out about mutual friends or similar/opposite upbringing was so cool. As you’ve said before we really are more similar than different and the world needs more people like Prodigal Overland bringing folks together. Thank you!!
Thanks you so much for the kind words. We enjoyed as always having you out. And really, truly love that we were able to allow you to be apart of the story. Hope we get to meet up again!
So much fun seeing the footage after sitting in the drivers seat! Will definitely invest in an action camera before the next one! Thanks guys for the great weekend!
Glad you enjoyed it! As always a pleasure hanging out with you guys!
Amazing. I have watched so many Wranglers do so much. You guys push the Cherokee's way beyond what I would guess they are capable of doing.
Thanks. We try!
JGCs never cease to amaze me...just like you Brad! Great trail and video!
Glad to see the air ride fixed itself. I have the same system. Great video as always brad. Keep it up i love it.
Thanks for watching!
The look of those Offroad Animal front fascia and rock rails, though... /swoon
I do like the look 👀
I like the looks of the Offroad Animal Rock Rails w/side step the best of all of the manufacturers but I did not realize that they offer absolutely no protection whatsoever to that pinch weld underneath. Bummer!
@@jimwheeler6094 wait though, if you look, you can see that my Jeep with the ORA stuff still allows a normal jack if needed on the factory body pick up points... I mean, I'll use a high lift (because they're built into the rock trails) but if you don't have a high lift, the factory stuff is still an option.. It's still plenty protected obviously because we came out unscathed 😉
@@lamecwedsi, yeah, nope, no thanks, not interested. That was what I was going to get but that was before I discovered that it does not protect the pinch weld like the Mopar and Chief Products Rock Rails do. The only reason that you came out unscathed this time is because you did not come down onto any rocks that would impact the pinch weld and shove it up into the unibody. As far as I'm concerned it is a poor design.
Really glad the air suspension is back on track, a lesson learned for my 2021 Trailhawk (Ladyhawk) to let her breathe awhile if she's miss behaving. I know it's a family adventure for your all, I got to say your kids' narration speaks to their growing knowledge, well done Brad, you're a great dad (they are their father's kids). Sorry you didn't make it to California, but smart to be safe. Per your recommendation ordered my first Chief product for the trany, ok I also ordered a floor jack, the skids plates are heavy!
They are heavy! Thanks for watching!
If you want to see how the Cherokee KL Trailhawk handles trails, watch a few of Fearless Trailhawk videos.
Brad, I have a 2018 Trailhawk myself and I had the front drop and give me the service suspension warning...took to the dealer and no issues found. Has been working pretty good since then. It seems both of our Jeeps have "personality"! Keep up the good work and hopefully I'll catch up with you sometime.
That would be great!
I did snake last week. It was SUPER tight your video looks way more open.
Also at the top of the big hill climb there was a huge wall and I actually bottomed out on it. Maybe I did a different trail but I got a snake badge and did get to the top where you were at the end of the video
Great job Coach Brad! Awesome comparison on how the QDII system compares to QTII.
You’re a beast. 🤟🏽😎
Thank! Glad you enjoyed it
Amazing performance again.........but you definitely need a meaner tyre pattern for that rock work! And lower tyre pressures to ensure more grip. Thanks
Great video Brad! A little too rough and tumble for us yet. We’ll be checking out some of the more “scenic” trails in the Sedona area in April while you’re in our home state of Michigan I think. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! We love Sedona! Have fun.
Great video once again Brad and hope to meet you sometime in the future
Thanks!
Crazy to see the level of drama on a 2/5 trail when there’s no suspension articulation.
Awesome video as always!
Thanks!
I need my rock rails so bad!!!!
I'm just going to blurt this out , Faulken wild peak 3s A/T .... Just try em , I ran goodyear & nitto all terrains on my Patriot but the Faulkens have surpassed all expectations out in this Ouachita clay .
Yep! We have been running those tires for over a year!
@9:25 For what it is and where it was... that is nice handling for a battleship.
I ordered a manual Gladiator which is already built, but won't ship from toledo because of the recall. Starting to think I should cancel my deposit and just buy out my trailhawk v8 lease.
We do enjoy our trailhawk!
Dude. This makes me have major regret for not making it. Come back!
I tried to bring you there! 🤷🏼♂️
I knowwwwww! We would’ve too had we not been in MO!
Surprised the springer lift looked just as stiff as the air suspension.
Why are all these badge of honor trails so easy? Why the badge of honor I don’t get this
No offense intended here but i have a 01 wj with solid axles and open diffs that has tackled harder trails out here in az with less difficulty. I do have a 4.5 inch lift though on solid axles.
So way more ground clearance and articulation. That makes a difference for sure.
Every owner of jeep grand cherokee must laughs hearing - this car has his own personality and fix itself 😂 😂 😂 My mirrors this week decide close and open itself each time I close and open my Jeep by fob. Wish it will stay like this 😂
It is crazy. I get to where I don’t worry to much about stuff unless it’s still there the next day.
I believe that the behavior of the folding mirrors are a setting in the EVIC. As for the Quadra-Lift system fixing itself, if there is a leak and some of the UHP Nitrogen escapes, the system will take in outside air to compensate with absolutely no notification that it is doing it. The outside air that it takes into the sytem may prevent you from being stranded but it thoroughly contaminates the system with moisture which usually isn't a problem until the weather becomes cold enough to freeze the moisture, which then wreaks havoc with the Quadra-Lift system.
@@jimwheeler6094 could be what happened. But it is so sporadic. If there was a leak somewhere I would think it would constantly be an issue
@@ProdigalOverland, every airline fitting at the end of each airline in the Quadra-Lift system relies on an o-ring at either end of the fitting to seal in the UHP Nitrogen. The front airstruts also have large o-rings at the top and bottom of the airbag. The o-rings lose their elasticity as they age and in freezing weather they contract and lose their seal. That is why the vast majority of Quadra-Lift system failures occur in freezing weather. The Quadra-Lift system will draw in outside air in order to try and compensate for the lost UHP Nitrogen, unbeknownst to you, as there is no notification that it is doing it, and from what I understand there is no way to determine if it has done it in the past. The outside air contaminates the sytem with moisture which wreaks havoc when it freezes in the system, with it either blocking the airlines or freezing the valves in the valve control block closed. If you start your JGC in freezing weather and you hear a loud banging noise coming from the right front of the JGC, that is the Quadra-Lift compressor self destructing while it's trying to pump up and level a frozen Quadra-Lift system.
@@jimwheeler6094 behavior of my mirrors depend of the mood of my Jeep if he is happy he let the mirror open if he is affected by rain he decide to not open them by fob and it not depend of Evic. About Quadra lift suspension I was in the impression that the system is close and compressor is only for increase pressure and move gas between tank and system.
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Man do those Trailhawks not have lockers? All that tire slip is just terrible. Good job making it up that hill tho! 👍🏼
The GC trailhawk has a rear elsd. And a active braking system up front.
Dude where do i get those dope rear headlights?
Please let me know if you come close to Nashville, TN. I’ve been going off road since 12/84. I now have that CJ 7 1985, , 2019 Rubicon, 2022 Overland. Anything will go off with you, I’m sure. ) I if you come to Nashville, LBL, Windrock, please let me know. If you come to Nashville area, LBL, Windrock, please let me know!
I’m sure we will do another trip to windrock at sometime. If you head over to our website and register for our email list you will receive information on our next round of trips. Once we schedule them. www.prodigaloverland.com
How often did you have to go to low range on a trail like this?
I didn’t the first half. But did on the second half. I usually only go there when I need it.
@@ProdigalOverland thanks man. My wife’s doesn’t have low range and I was curious if it was capable of this trail. I think I have my answer. Great content and thanks very much!
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i'm surprised that the cherokee trailhawk didn't make it. Those have 4Low and rear lockers, I wonder if it was running stock tires.
It had a lift and aggressive at tires
@@ProdigalOverland That makes me wonder about the main differences between the two systems. I know the Grand Cherokee definitely has better software, but the hardware component should almost even them out.
@@4x4nerd80 seriously though
@@macmurfy2jka I'd say the Grand and KL are both capable of off roading in various situations. Grand is going to be more comfy though an more power with the hemi
But happened with the air suspension failure. I've been waiting for that... ?
I talk about it in the video at the end. But it sat for a while off the trail and leveled itself out. When I started it back up the system was working again.
Woooooww
Hallo Brad. I have jepp grand cherokee 2011 overland 177kw 241 hp. I leave in Germany. I have problemm with my car. Sometimes don't krank,don't start. When the engine are cold everutime start. When hot sometimes is katastrophal.Dont't crank,don't start. I went to the Jeep but they didn't find anything.After about 30-40 minutes starts without problems. I have a big headache because of this. In Germany mechanics don't know much about mechanics. Unless the tester tells them something. I do not know what to do,i don't know where to go. If you can give me some advice on what to do. Wait for response. Thanks
Hi there! Unfortunately I am not a mechanic. My professional background is actually in physiotherapy. I could
Probably do better a diagnosing back pain than your engine trouble. Sorry I Can’t be more help.
wooow you are all tough guys !! respect to you!
Great job !!!
Brad i have question to you!
I am going to purchase chief products low fascia guard and suspension plate guard.
So I should to install first low fascia protection and then suspension plate right?
Suspension plate bolts on under low fascia guard? And if i take heavy duty suspension plate, and i have hemi engine,so when i will need to change oil filter,i just remove bolts and suspension plate,and front low fascia guard will be bolted on “radiator frame” anyway correct?
And when I changed oil filter i have to bolt on suspension plate under front low fascia?
It seems like front low fascia guard and suspension guard are screwed on the same bolts to the car underneath.
Sorry for my English and i hope that you understood what did i mean.
Ty for your reply!
The Sump plate fits under the lower front guard and over the front differential (mopar) Plate behind it. You want the sump plate with the whole for the oil changes for the V8. Unless you really enjoy removing armor plating. And yes they share the same holes. Hopefully that helps!
@@ProdigalOverland and do I really need to buy heavy duty sump plate or normal duty for v8 with the whole will be enough protection for the car?
Thank you so much!
@@volodymyrprosov6134 I would take the access panel of the normal duty. Over the heavy duty without one.
@@ProdigalOverland God Bless You! 🙌🏻
I dont know if people ask this but what radios do yall use?
We use midland x talkers. Although honestly I’m not super impressed with them. The battery is not so good.
@@ProdigalOverland Thats good to know. Will look into other radios
Boring