I just put taller tires on my hemi grand. I went from a 265 60 18 to a 265 65 18 landspyder AT tires and I absolutely love them. I had Goodyear wrangler fortitude tires on before, and they were mostly a street tire, but very thin sidewalls. My landspyder ATs are an 8 ply tire with really aggressive tread and ample protection. I highly recommend them.
I encounter way more mud than rock so the hybrid tread gives great traction offroad without all of the on road noise. The only dislike I have is the fuel mileage but if I am going on a long road trip with no plans to go offroad I'll swap to the stock eco tires for a 2-3L/100km fuel savings
Toyo Open Country AT3 feels amazing in snow/ice/gravel/mud and also (something important to me) rain driving on the pavement. I used to drive 45 miles per hour on the Wrangler tires and Falken tires in weather. Now I can confidently drive the speed limit.
I just bought landspyder ats for my grand and I went with a taller tire in a 265 65 18 tire over a 265 60 18 tires and I have 40 psi in all 4 tires and they are excellent
Great videos, Brad! I just bought a JGC Trailhawk and I’m looking forward to my first off-road experience with it. Your videos have helped a great deal. Thanks!
I just put a set of taller tires on my 2011 hemi grand. I just put a set of landspyder AT tires on my jeep, and these tires are incredible! They are very aggressive and I have no worries about busting a sidewall off roading, because these are an 8 ply tire. They are a newer tire, but I would put them up against any tire on the market! Also they go great in deep snow
BTW, my 32" Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs are actually closer to 31-1/2 inches in diameter, but they are considered "32 inch class" when shopping around for tires. I agree that 31.5 inches in diameter (and not too wide) are about the maximum that you ought to go on a Quadralift WK2.
Appreciate the analytical approach to thinking through tire pressures vs vehicle weight, etc. Now feel better about running my GC Overland at 20-30 PSI
On my 2013 JGC I ran 275/65/18 on a 0 offset rim with a 5 backspacing. The rig had a RRO 2.5” lift. Absolutely beautiful setup, wheeled it in Glamis, Ocitillo, Johnson Valley, Pismo, Big Bear, and the occasional Azusa Canyon run. Never had clearance issues lock to lock even under preload. Yes you do have to trim a piece on the front wheel wells behind the tire, but it was well worth it. I’ve wheeled with other JGC Quadra-lift owners and the added clearance of the tires/lift outweighs the E-LSD in the Quadra drive models in my opinion. Sold the Jeep, regretted it and bought not one but two more JGCs. One is a 2014 diesel Quadra trac II with the same exact lift/tire/wheel combo as my previous JGC, and the other a 2021 80th anniversary V6 Quadra trac II that has not yet been modded. Trust the BLDs, they work! Get the Springs (or delete the air lift) and get the 32s! As to pressure, off road I ran about 20psi on dirt and sand. You don’t need to go down to 10psi like to big guys do, not enough tire to warrant that. With my 9” rim width the tire balloons out nicely at 20psi (BFG KO2).
Luis, I'm considering upping my stock tire on my 2013 WK2 to a 275/65/18 - what was your experience with those? Sounds like to avoid rubbing you had to do some trimming?
Look into hybrid tires, I think you would really benefit what you do. I just switched from Toyo Open Country AT3's in a 265/70R18 to the Open Country R/T's in a 285/65R18 and I'm super impressed, road noise and comfort is excellent and your getting a great all around tire. 10 ply construction and E load rating which is great for that 6k+lb rig you have. If your willing to take a slight hit on sand and snow traction for massive gains on the trails, this is a great option.
I agree hybrid tires are a good choice. I don’t like load range E for comfort, but it’s hard to argue against them for longevity on the trail due to thicker tread and sidewall plies. I have Kenda Klever R/T LT265/65R18 on my grand Cherokee.
What PSI one person uses is irrelevant to everyone else unless they have the same car, same weight, same tire, and same traction conditions. The answer to 'what PSI should I use' is actually "the maximum amount of PSI below max COLD PSI you can that gives you the traction you need to get through that situation."
This is a great and very informative video about tires and off-roading! I drive a 2015 Grand Cherokee Limited and live in Dubai at the moment. Started going to the desert and mountains with a group of WK2s and your videos have been very helpful in my off-roading experience building. I think it’s very cool you take your family all over the country to experience the outdoors. Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work, and the fun!
Oh wow..SMH!.. we are the nerds! Jeep nerds! Lol..Was reading a thread in another WK2 group. Someone posted they'd gone to an off-road place and the "experts" doubted his independent suspension abilities; he did just fine. Oh.."experts" uh? Apparently they don't know Brad and crew either! I read a lot of smack, and get some too, from Wrangler owners implying nothing else is a "real" jeep. The arrogance there really dampens the fun and adventure in jeep life. And then there's Brad and family, doing what some experts and Wrangler owners think can't be done.. not in a GC TH! And then it hits me.. we're "Revenge of the Nerds"!! Lol.. so be careful out there! Don't leave the obstacles feeling left out! 🤓
Just wanted you to know that mostly due to your recommendation of them (and some of my own research) I just bought a full set of Falken Wildpeak A/T3W tires for our '17 GC Trailhawk. See you on the trails!
Brad, since Sedona I put 277/65/18 Wild Peaks on my 20 GC. I have AirLinks on the front. The tires are performing well, but in more aggressive off road I've noticed rubbing in normal height. One I go to off road 1, the rubbing stops. Great video
I have a 14 JGC overland with the 20” wheels and running Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S and have been very impressed with the overall performance both on and off road. And they are made is the USA which is a nice bonus. I would like to change to 18’s the next time I need tires. (And new wheels obviously) On the trail, I run about 25 psi to be safe right now.
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Hopefully you'll see the very late question... My Trailhawk came with All Terrain "Adventure" tires. I believe the "Adventure" part comes from teaching your kids how to change flat tires. In 12,000 km (7.5K miles) I've had 2 serious punctures through the tread (on paved and gravel road not even when we've been in the back country). It's funny that the spare has had no problems. I haven't had a flat since 1989 so good times. So looking into Duratrac in 10 ply. However after this video I'm wondering if sidewall might be too stiff. Can you comment? PLEASE! THANKS
Great video for the noobs. I've run the Falken A/T3W on a few vehicles and loved them However, they've gone up in price. On my 2017 WK@ TH I chose the Falken Rubitrek. So far, it's everything and maybe more than the A/T3W's. There's a little more tread gap. Definitely noisier than the All seasons that came with it but, nothing I would complain about. Keep up the great work with the videos!
A 275/65 should be possible but requires modifications inside the wheelwell. It is easy to find instructions for how to modify the wheelwell for this, if you want that additional 10mm of width. From 265 to 275 all other parameters equal, you only gain 6mm in ground clearance.
Im currently Running 265 65 18 nitto grappler 2 on my 2018 trailhawk. So it "fits" however when I have to back into my garage due to clearance I have to be in entry/exit level which will cause rubbing. Appreciate the video. If your doing midwest meet up Chicagoland area go to spot would be badlands in Attica, IN.
All you have to know about tires, is know someone with bigger ones to pull you out! :) week old jgc trail hawk.. getting Michelin premier ltx on next weekend. 90% highway, off road is at gravel pits I work at, with heavy equipment around I can use. Is that cheating? Bought a compressor to put in Jeep to adjust tire tire pressure.. thanks for the starting points on that. :)
Hi from Exmouth Australia. I just purchased a 2014/15 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, but decided to go for the 3.6L pentastar, the 3.0L diesel is the go-to in Australia, but the big increase in diesel prices and the many short trip, I feel the petrol V6 is better option. I will be going 18" rims and AT's in the near future and can't wait to some off roading in the model. Do you think the V6 petrol is as good off road compared to the other engine, I'm not talking about real serious crazy off road. Any mods you think would be good with this engine, or good enough in standard form.
I have a 2015 WK2 V6 Quadra lift with trail rated badging. I live in Columbia SC and would live one day to wheel with you. You have inspired and terrified me. I have no mods right now, but I flirt with going all on on the Chief Line of gear I've seen on your rides. The bumper, the front and rear, underside and rock rail combo! Its about $4,800! I've got 75,000 easy miles on it, do you think its to old to put this money into it? It runs beautifully, its been maintained. Thanks!!
Just put on 265/70/18 Falkens, and my only concerns is slight rubbing on the fuel fillter tube, other than that it's just some light fender lining wear.
So Brad, when are you going to some 275/65's (or larger)? Would love to know how large you can go with what degree of trimming to expect...I really enjoy your channel, thanks for all the great content!!!
Great video. I’m picking up my Trailhawk in April and this answered a lot of GC specific questions I had. Previous OR experience is shift to 4wd and step on the skinny pedal. 😬
I saw on another RUclips video that with the Active Drive ii that you need to replace all your tires at the same time, or the clutch in the Active Drive will burn up. Have you heard this and what has your experience been like. P.S. note the vehicle he was replacing the clutch had about 100,000 miles. His RUclips Chanel is called car wizard
I appreciate the tire insight. I have a 2015 WK2 Overland with the diesel. It just turned 160K miles and I've worn out the original Michelin tires. I replaced them with 265/60 Michelin Defender LTX M/S and they worked fairly well off-road and great on the highway. When these wore out I replaced them with BFG KO2s. As much as I wanted to like these tires I hated them. They are very heavy and work OK on the highway and in snow. They are almost too stiff (load range E) for off-road. The most recent tires I purchased are Michelin Cross Climate SUV and these are amazing on the highway and work very well in the winter in snow conditions. However these tires aren't designed to go off-road and in fact are prone to spinning on a grassy lawn. I still have the KO2s mounted on wheel and am debating on replacing them. I'm wondering about Goodyear Dura Tracs or the Toyo Open Country A/T IIIs? I need a tire that I can use in the winter as we get lots of snow in North Idaho.
What an informative video! Bravo! I have learned so much by watching your video, Brad, than I have by off-roading thus far by myself. Again, the terrain in Greece and Italy, where I am used to, is so different, but your points are universal. I only wish I knew what you have taught me here when I was living/off-roading in Saudi Arabia and Indonesia! Thanks.
Hello I really enjoy your videos I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee limited without air suspension and I wanted to know can I go with the 265 65 18 I would like to get ko2s thank you
Add another wk2 to the list with Falken Wildpeak at3w. Great on road in wet and dry, didn’t get stuck at Bridgeport even when I had the Jeep almost up to the hood in mud and water and I like they have the winter rating for the rare snow we get here. I haven’t found them any louder than stock and my mph only slightly went down from the added rolling weight. I’m already looking forward to going up to 275/65r18 if I can find a deal. I’m looking at a 255/70r18 for the spare, same outside diameter but thin enough to fit under the lid of the spare tire area.
Thx brad for always givin an honest humble opinion. I dig that ! & yeah the forums are terrible with so much hate lol 🤣. Happy new years to you and the fam, cheers brotha !
Two questions Brad: 1- did you do any type of computer mods to the Jeep for the larger tires? Years ago I had a ‘95 Cherokee that I put 30s on (largest that would fit without a lift). I basically calculated that it was a 10% increase in circumference, so if my speedometer said 60, I was really going 66. Got a few tickets when I wasn’t paying attention... 2- where did you come up with the name “prodigal overland”? We have 2 grand cherokees, a 2011 with the off road package (coil springs), and a 2021 Trailhawk (I traded my 2015 rubicon in for it). Absolutely love the videos!
Hey there! Thanks foe the questions. 1. No I haven’t adjusted the speedometer. It’s supposed to be off a bit with our larger tires. But I haven’t seen that on any of those radar speed trackers on the side of the road. 2. We made a video on that one. ruclips.net/video/CYIZbwlfGPw/видео.html Glad you found us!
Hi Brad, I saw the explanation on your website after I posted the question. Will watch the video today. I’m right there with you, brother. Hope to meet in person on the trail someday. We are in south Jersey, and most of my off roading is deep sand and mud pits, plus driving on the beach to fish. I have a couple hunting spots north of us that are a little rocky and more challenging. We are about 3.5 hours from Rausch Creek, and I would love to do the badge of honor trails there. I will keep checking your events page.
You mentioned you fit a 265/65/18 spare in the back. Do you mean that you replaced the thinner OEM spare, with an ACTUAL full size tire/wheel spare? Also did it fit in the compartment inflated or did you need to deflate it so you could close the spare storage compartment? Great Video btw!
The question wasn’t addressed to me, but I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 265/65/18 spare tire and previously had a 255/70R18 spare. Both fit no problem in the spare compartment
@@ProdigalOverland Brad, if you're going to address this, please remember there is 2 V6 options with the Grand Cherokee. There's the 3.6 Pentastar (gas) and the 3.0L Ecodiesel.
First of all I love your channel. Wife and I bought a brand new Grand Cherokee trailhawk in 2018, with the hemi. We have only 18,000 mi, and we've had tons of problems with this vehicle. One of the major problems we've had, twice we went to the garage and our vehicle looked like a low rider. Other words the air suspension has failed twice. Both times we had to have it loaded onto a rollback cuz they told us not to drive it. Do you think if we went to the same size tire as you, that we could still drive it onto a rollback without tearing up the fenders?
Wow, Sorry to hear you have had so many issues with it. We had some issues a while back with our air suspension but it never looked like a low rider. Sounds like you have had it worse than us. As far as going up a tire size and having issues getting it on a roll back. Not really sure. One would hope that this is not an experience that will continue to happen. The fender linings may rub some but hopefully not tear. the tears I have seen are from repeated wearing. Good luck!
Ours must have been made on a Friday. We've had air suspension fail twice. Two new radios put in it. Radiator fai,l with a leak. A window that was set in wrong from the factory. And just last week back to the garage because the fobs don't work. There's been so many problems with it I'm sure I'm missing some. And it's a shame cuz I'd love the vehicle's handling and power. When it's working it's the funnest vehicle I ever owned.
One thing more, when the air went out of the air suspension, you couldn't get your fingers up past the fender in the tire.it was so tight I was afraid turning the wheel would hit the fenders. My personal opinion is Jeep dropped the ball. I feel they should have used coilover with their suspension on top, to eliminate being able to move the vehicle when the air suspension failed completely.
Our JK weighs 5600lbs unloaded and I run between 12-20psi off road depending on the terrain (I don’t hang out in sand, but I would go down to 10 or so if I did). I might be able to run lower, but I’d rather have a little more pressure than risk popping a bead and severely damaging a tire. Great video, as always, I miss your face!
Been binge watching your videos. Love the tutorial nature of your vids, and hoping to use it to transform my 2017 JCG Limited for some off-roading up here in the North East. My main question would be should lifting my suspension since I don't have that inherent capability be my first move, or should I start adding rock sliders and skid plates?
Love your channel! I will be buying a trailhawk within the week. Your videos have been super helpful. I live in NJ let me know if you are aware of any meetups in the northeast
Hi in Australia Jeep GC are popular but available function info sucks. We have dirt roads very common in country areas, many corrugated. Advice is to use 4wd on dirt even at speed (80kph) with GC that means stop select 4wd high, move on ... is that your experience or leave it in auto mode?
@@ProdigalOverland just getting my head around this after owning it for years ... so auto is AWD effectively ? your excellent vid explained the 4wd modes well 😎
What about a 275/60r18 (More width). The reason why I am not wanting a Limited is because of the SRT seats in the Trailhawk. I do not see myself going off-road... what All Season tire would you recommend? Do the Wildpeaks you have make a lot of road noise vs OEM? Do you feel I would be better off going taller (265/65r18) vs slightly wider/taller (275/60r18)? Thank you!
I had 10 ply tires on wife’s 2000 Jeep Wrangler and she drove 40 miles to get home on 4 flat tires without realizing it because the sidewalls were so stiff!
I'm curious of what type of tires are you using? Currently I have a 2004 vw touareg that I have finally got back from the shop for routine maintenance. My curb weight is 5,600 pounds, loaded 6,700 pounds. Any thoughts of a tire for my rig?
We have been with some folks that have them. I haven't seen a practical use for them on the trails. I like the look but I don't need to add another thing that could go wrong.
Question not related to tire pressure, I own the 5.7 wk2 trailhawk. I’ve been noticing that my coolant temperature runs between 230 and 245 when I’m off-roading. Is this normal?
This is another question I get a bunch. I haven't seen a significant temp rise when we go out off roading. Unless its something like sand dunes. were the engine is really working. I don't have actual numbers on this. I'll have to pay more attention to it.
I keep hitting the subscribe button... lol. Good look at tires and also a political dodge on what to buy. (nice) I liked. Lots of peeps just try to sell what they bought without any knowledge. I like some data. You provided. Hope all is well. Pam is putting last touches on "the video back by the river". See ya soon. V6 rules... lol.. as long as you are not pulling anything more than a side by...
@@ProdigalOverland Yes I know. I have one Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 2019. And he has such rims. But for snow, I also want to have a set of such rims for a studded tire. But I can't find where to buy them. Hello from Russia. (now -27 degrees Celsius and a lot of snow and ice.)
@@alexandrzakharov1729 Man that is cold!!! I was able to find them when I search for OEM wheels on trail hawk. However I have no idea if shipping to Russia is crazy expensive.
@@ProdigalOverland Спасибо! At -45 degrees Celsius, I was driving the Nissan Qashqai. It was equipped with a Webasto pre-heater. The coldest temperature in which I was is -53, but in such weather only on foot and not for long. I haven't used a trailhawk below -30 yet, but it's already clear that the car is very warm and reliable.
Man this video certainly doesn't help my wallet. I've been debating whether to drop down to 18" wheels on my WK2 Overland so I could have a higher profile tire. Now seeing this video it's really got me thinking if I should go out and by 5 new wheels and tires.
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As a new WK2 owner ive been watching a bunch of your videos! Appreciate all the info!
Been running Milestar Patagonia A/T R 275/65R18 116T on my wk2 Trailhawk V6, stock rims since Nov 2021, no rubbing, & loving them!
I just put taller tires on my hemi grand. I went from a 265 60 18 to a 265 65 18 landspyder AT tires and I absolutely love them. I had Goodyear wrangler fortitude tires on before, and they were mostly a street tire, but very thin sidewalls. My landspyder ATs are an 8 ply tire with really aggressive tread and ample protection. I highly recommend them.
I love my nitto ridge grapplers in 255/70/18 32" according to nittos chart. The spare also fits perfectly
They seem like great tires as well. I've seen them in action
I encounter way more mud than rock so the hybrid tread gives great traction offroad without all of the on road noise. The only dislike I have is the fuel mileage but if I am going on a long road trip with no plans to go offroad I'll swap to the stock eco tires for a 2-3L/100km fuel savings
@@tgvaillancourt do you do that with a new set of wheels or swap the tires on the rim?
@@macmurfy2jka I have the stock 20" rims and tires that I swap over.
I also run 255/70/18 tires (KO2s) and they fit great, no rubbing off road, and the spare also fits.
Toyo Open Country AT3 feels amazing in snow/ice/gravel/mud and also (something important to me) rain driving on the pavement. I used to drive 45 miles per hour on the Wrangler tires and Falken tires in weather. Now I can confidently drive the speed limit.
Thanks for sharing!
I just bought landspyder ats for my grand and I went with a taller tire in a 265 65 18 tire over a 265 60 18 tires and I have 40 psi in all 4 tires and they are excellent
Running Cooper Discoverer AT3 on our JGC 4x4 and real happy with both on and off-road performance. It is a good 50/50 tire.
Can you please post your top 3 brand and tire size options for your vehicle?
Great videos, Brad! I just bought a JGC Trailhawk and I’m looking forward to my first off-road experience with it. Your videos have helped a great deal. Thanks!
Glad to hear!!
Majority of people could benefit from watching this episode.
I just put a set of taller tires on my 2011 hemi grand. I just put a set of landspyder AT tires on my jeep, and these tires are incredible! They are very aggressive and I have no worries about busting a sidewall off roading, because these are an 8 ply tire. They are a newer tire, but I would put them up against any tire on the market! Also they go great in deep snow
BTW, my 32" Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs are actually closer to 31-1/2 inches in diameter, but they are considered "32 inch class" when shopping around for tires. I agree that 31.5 inches in diameter (and not too wide) are about the maximum that you ought to go on a Quadralift WK2.
Appreciate the analytical approach to thinking through tire pressures vs vehicle weight, etc. Now feel better about running my GC Overland at 20-30 PSI
Man Brad just spewing the knowledge on us in this one. Great stuff sir
On my 2013 JGC I ran 275/65/18 on a 0 offset rim with a 5 backspacing. The rig had a RRO 2.5” lift. Absolutely beautiful setup, wheeled it in Glamis, Ocitillo, Johnson Valley, Pismo, Big Bear, and the occasional Azusa Canyon run. Never had clearance issues lock to lock even under preload. Yes you do have to trim a piece on the front wheel wells behind the tire, but it was well worth it. I’ve wheeled with other JGC Quadra-lift owners and the added clearance of the tires/lift outweighs the E-LSD in the Quadra drive models in my opinion. Sold the Jeep, regretted it and bought not one but two more JGCs. One is a 2014 diesel Quadra trac II with the same exact lift/tire/wheel combo as my previous JGC, and the other a 2021 80th anniversary V6 Quadra trac II that has not yet been modded.
Trust the BLDs, they work! Get the Springs (or delete the air lift) and get the 32s!
As to pressure, off road I ran about 20psi on dirt and sand. You don’t need to go down to 10psi like to big guys do, not enough tire to warrant that. With my 9” rim width the tire balloons out nicely at 20psi (BFG KO2).
Luis, I'm considering upping my stock tire on my 2013 WK2 to a 275/65/18 - what was your experience with those? Sounds like to avoid rubbing you had to do some trimming?
Look into hybrid tires, I think you would really benefit what you do. I just switched from Toyo Open Country AT3's in a 265/70R18 to the Open Country R/T's in a 285/65R18 and I'm super impressed, road noise and comfort is excellent and your getting a great all around tire. 10 ply construction and E load rating which is great for that 6k+lb rig you have. If your willing to take a slight hit on sand and snow traction for massive gains on the trails, this is a great option.
I will check it out, Thanks!
I agree hybrid tires are a good choice. I don’t like load range E for comfort, but it’s hard to argue against them for longevity on the trail due to thicker tread and sidewall plies. I have Kenda Klever R/T LT265/65R18 on my grand Cherokee.
Appreciate how you break it down. Very thorough. Thanks!
Thank you!
What PSI one person uses is irrelevant to everyone else unless they have the same car, same weight, same tire, and same traction conditions. The answer to 'what PSI should I use' is actually "the maximum amount of PSI below max COLD PSI you can that gives you the traction you need to get through that situation."
This is a great and very informative video about tires and off-roading! I drive a 2015 Grand Cherokee Limited and live in Dubai at the moment. Started going to the desert and mountains with a group of WK2s and your videos have been very helpful in my off-roading experience building. I think it’s very cool you take your family all over the country to experience the outdoors. Thanks for the videos and keep up the good work, and the fun!
Happy to hear that! Thanks
I’ve been very happy with my Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs on my JKUR
Good stuff. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I second that one. I got them mounted up on my Grand.
Getting different tires for my Trailhawk so this video helped out a lot thanks!
Thanks for covering this topic.
I like the perspective with a heavier vehicle. I found under 15 psi on rocks in my Grand Cherokee seemed too low regardless of what the forums said.
Yep. I have discovered that people define “off roading” very differently
Oh wow..SMH!.. we are the nerds! Jeep nerds!
Lol..Was reading a thread in another WK2 group. Someone posted they'd gone to an off-road place and the "experts" doubted his independent suspension abilities; he did just fine. Oh.."experts" uh? Apparently they don't know Brad and crew either!
I read a lot of smack, and get some too, from Wrangler owners implying nothing else is a "real" jeep. The arrogance there really dampens the fun and adventure in jeep life. And then there's Brad and family, doing what some experts and Wrangler owners think can't be done.. not in a GC TH! And then it hits me.. we're "Revenge of the Nerds"!! Lol.. so
be careful out there! Don't leave the obstacles feeling left out! 🤓
This is great! Happy new year!
Great video! I'd want to buy tires with a strong side wall rating. Especially if you're running on rough trails with low pressure in the tires.
Thanks for the clarity
Enjoying my 2021 LTD on the beach in NC at 36 ( stock ) PSI so far
Your right on the tires!
Love this info. It's been SO helpful. Thanks as always!
Bravo! Super informative and as objective and focused as you can get it. Thank you, Brad!
You’re welcome! Glad you found it helpful!
Just wanted you to know that mostly due to your recommendation of them (and some of my own research) I just bought a full set of Falken Wildpeak A/T3W tires for our '17 GC Trailhawk. See you on the trails!
Good call, Brad! I swear by Discount Tire. Been going to them for over 35 years for all OEM replacements on my 4x4s, sports cars, and sedans.
They have been great!
Brad, since Sedona I put 277/65/18 Wild Peaks on my 20 GC. I have AirLinks on the front. The tires are performing well, but in more aggressive off road I've noticed rubbing in normal height. One I go to off road 1, the rubbing stops.
Great video
Thanks David! Glad you’re enjoying it!
I have a 14 JGC overland with the 20” wheels and running Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S and have been very impressed with the overall performance both on and off road. And they are made is the USA which is a nice bonus. I would like to change to 18’s the next time I need tires. (And new wheels obviously) On the trail, I run about 25 psi to be safe right now.
That all sounds great. Good stuff!
Yep, I have a discount tires aka America’s Tire in some states. My falcons never an issue
Forums, gotta love the keyboard PHDs.
Link in description does not work. Tried to see what gear you all use but link was not working. Also could not find a menu link from website to gear used section.
If you're moving to Asheville, you should definitely try out McDowell tire in Marion. Best place to buy tires
Hopefully you'll see the very late question... My Trailhawk came with All Terrain "Adventure" tires. I believe the "Adventure" part comes from teaching your kids how to change flat tires. In 12,000 km (7.5K miles) I've had 2 serious punctures through the tread (on paved and gravel road not even when we've been in the back country). It's funny that the spare has had no problems. I haven't had a flat since 1989 so good times. So looking into Duratrac in 10 ply. However after this video I'm wondering if sidewall might be too stiff. Can you comment? PLEASE! THANKS
Beastmode_wk2 here, awesome video Brad! Ordering rock rails this week, gonna do our best to make it to Hot Springs!
Sounds good! We have one other jeep signed up so far.
Great video for the noobs. I've run the Falken A/T3W on a few vehicles and loved them However, they've gone up in price. On my 2017 WK@ TH I chose the Falken Rubitrek. So far, it's everything and maybe more than the A/T3W's. There's a little more tread gap. Definitely noisier than the All seasons that came with it but, nothing I would complain about. Keep up the great work with the videos!
A 275/65 should be possible but requires modifications inside the wheelwell. It is easy to find instructions for how to modify the wheelwell for this, if you want that additional 10mm of width. From 265 to 275 all other parameters equal, you only gain 6mm in ground clearance.
Im currently Running 265 65 18 nitto grappler 2 on my 2018 trailhawk. So it "fits" however when I have to back into my garage due to clearance I have to be in entry/exit level which will cause rubbing. Appreciate the video. If your doing midwest meet up Chicagoland area go to spot would be badlands in Attica, IN.
Thanks for the feedback! We may be in that area this summer
I'm going to 17in rims and will probably be getting the KO2 275/70/17
I live near Uwharrie love to know when yall will be headed that way next
We will be there in April! Still spots left on our trip. www.prodigaloverland.com/events
Wow great vid man! Exactly what I needed to know.
All you have to know about tires, is know someone with bigger ones to pull you out! :) week old jgc trail hawk.. getting Michelin premier ltx on next weekend. 90% highway, off road is at gravel pits I work at, with heavy equipment around I can use. Is that cheating? Bought a compressor to put in Jeep to adjust tire tire pressure.. thanks for the starting points on that. :)
tire pressure highway like 75mph, new trailhawk last week
Feels floating around upfront
Hi from Exmouth Australia. I just purchased a 2014/15 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland, but decided to go for the 3.6L pentastar, the 3.0L diesel is the go-to in Australia, but the big increase in diesel prices and the many short trip, I feel the petrol V6 is better option.
I will be going 18" rims and AT's in the near future and can't wait to some off roading in the model. Do you think the V6 petrol is as good off road compared to the other engine, I'm not talking about real serious crazy off road. Any mods you think would be good with this engine, or good enough in standard form.
Ahhhh...here are the wheel pictures. 🤔😁🤙 Good info. I like your logic. .
I have a 2015 WK2 V6 Quadra lift with trail rated badging. I live in Columbia SC and would live one day to wheel with you. You have inspired and terrified me. I have no mods right now, but I flirt with going all on on the Chief Line of gear I've seen on your rides. The bumper, the front and rear, underside and rock rail combo! Its about $4,800! I've got 75,000 easy miles on it, do you think its to old to put this money into it? It runs beautifully, its been maintained. Thanks!!
Just put on 265/70/18 Falkens, and my only concerns is slight rubbing on the fuel fillter tube, other than that it's just some light fender lining wear.
you are one of the few to go that big wo a lift. try the Bora 1.5in wheel spacers.
bro they are right specially when you went on sand you made the jeep look bad you need to lower you pressure more bro you make everything go smoother
So Brad, when are you going to some 275/65's (or larger)? Would love to know how large you can go with what degree of trimming to expect...I really enjoy your channel, thanks for all the great content!!!
Good question, Next time we swap tires I hope to go larger and try mud terrain.
@@ProdigalOverland hey Brad do you think it will fit to stock rim without spacer or lift ???
This is a great channel. I'm surprised you don't have a lot more subs. 👍
You and me both!
I've got the 275's (k02) and it keeps the lid from shutting by
Thanks for the information! It helps everyone
You can also switch to 255/70r18 for the spare. Same height but fits under the deck.
Great video as always!
Great video. I’m picking up my Trailhawk in April and this answered a lot of GC specific questions I had. Previous OR experience is shift to 4wd and step on the skinny pedal. 😬
Too funny! Enjoy the new ride!
Excellent and well thought out points. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I saw on another RUclips video that with the Active Drive ii that you need to replace all your tires at the same time, or the clutch in the Active Drive will burn up. Have you heard this and what has your experience been like. P.S. note the vehicle he was replacing the clutch had about 100,000 miles. His RUclips Chanel is called car wizard
My understanding is that there can't be a significant difference in the tread. Or else it can cause issues. However, I haven't seen it tested.
Awesome, very helpful! Tires are next for the WK2!
Great! Glad it was helpful
I appreciate the tire insight. I have a 2015 WK2 Overland with the diesel. It just turned 160K miles and I've worn out the original Michelin tires. I replaced them with 265/60 Michelin Defender LTX M/S and they worked fairly well off-road and great on the highway. When these wore out I replaced them with BFG KO2s. As much as I wanted to like these tires I hated them. They are very heavy and work OK on the highway and in snow. They are almost too stiff (load range E) for off-road. The most recent tires I purchased are Michelin Cross Climate SUV and these are amazing on the highway and work very well in the winter in snow conditions. However these tires aren't designed to go off-road and in fact are prone to spinning on a grassy lawn.
I still have the KO2s mounted on wheel and am debating on replacing them. I'm wondering about Goodyear Dura Tracs or the Toyo Open Country A/T IIIs? I need a tire that I can use in the winter as we get lots of snow in North Idaho.
We recently were about with a guy with the duratracs and he really likes them.
Unless it's for heavy deep snow or mud, I don't usually air down
What an informative video! Bravo! I have learned so much by watching your video, Brad, than I have by off-roading thus far by myself. Again, the terrain in Greece and Italy, where I am used to, is so different, but your points are universal. I only wish I knew what you have taught me here when I was living/off-roading in Saudi Arabia and Indonesia! Thanks.
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!
Prodigal Overland my pleasure entirely! May the New Year be kinder to us all!
Great video. Very informative !
Glad you enjoyed it!
Very informative! I hope to purchase a Trailhawk in the next week, and then off to the trails, can’t wait!
Good choice!
Hello I really enjoy your videos I have a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee limited without air suspension and I wanted to know can I go with the 265 65 18 I would like to get ko2s thank you
I believe it should fit without issues. It’s only a bit larger than stock.
Good info for some new off-roaders!
Really helpful video! Great insight for a beginner.
Thanks!
Great video Brad! Always nice to hear real world facts. 👍
Thanks!
Add another wk2 to the list with Falken Wildpeak at3w. Great on road in wet and dry, didn’t get stuck at Bridgeport even when I had the Jeep almost up to the hood in mud and water and I like they have the winter rating for the rare snow we get here. I haven’t found them any louder than stock and my mph only slightly went down from the added rolling weight. I’m already looking forward to going up to 275/65r18 if I can find a deal. I’m looking at a 255/70r18 for the spare, same outside diameter but thin enough to fit under the lid of the spare tire area.
Sounds like a plan! Looking forward to meeting up!
Great Video as usual 👍
Thx brad for always givin an honest humble opinion. I dig that ! & yeah the forums are terrible with so much hate lol 🤣. Happy new years to you and the fam, cheers brotha !
Tha is Jay! Happy to try to share what we have learned!
Two questions Brad:
1- did you do any type of computer mods to the Jeep for the larger tires? Years ago I had a ‘95 Cherokee that I put 30s on (largest that would fit without a lift). I basically calculated that it was a 10% increase in circumference, so if my speedometer said 60, I was really going 66. Got a few tickets when I wasn’t paying attention...
2- where did you come up with the name “prodigal overland”?
We have 2 grand cherokees, a 2011 with the off road package (coil springs), and a 2021 Trailhawk (I traded my 2015 rubicon in for it). Absolutely love the videos!
Hey there! Thanks foe the questions.
1. No I haven’t adjusted the speedometer. It’s supposed to be off a bit with our larger tires. But I haven’t seen that on any of those radar speed trackers on the side of the road.
2. We made a video on that one.
ruclips.net/video/CYIZbwlfGPw/видео.html
Glad you found us!
Hi Brad, I saw the explanation on your website after I posted the question. Will watch the video today. I’m right there with you, brother.
Hope to meet in person on the trail someday. We are in south Jersey, and most of my off roading is deep sand and mud pits, plus driving on the beach to fish. I have a couple hunting spots north of us that are a little rocky and more challenging.
We are about 3.5 hours from Rausch Creek, and I would love to do the badge of honor trails there.
I will keep checking your events page.
@@dr.mattbickel4713 Sounds good! Have a great day!
You too, Brad!
As always thank you Brad for sharing your experiences and evaluations. Real world testing surely out weighs opinion.
Happy to try to help out!
Falken Wildpeak Trail or AT3W!!! Nuff said.
You mentioned you fit a 265/65/18 spare in the back. Do you mean that you replaced the thinner OEM spare, with an ACTUAL full size tire/wheel spare? Also did it fit in the compartment inflated or did you need to deflate it so you could close the spare storage compartment? Great Video btw!
The question wasn’t addressed to me, but I have a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 265/65/18 spare tire and previously had a 255/70R18 spare. Both fit no problem in the spare compartment
V6 VS V8 Brad...you nailed my number 1 question. I've ordered my JGC Trailhawk but it's not too late to get the Hemi.
Sounds good. I’ll try to work on that one for next week!
@@ProdigalOverland Brad, if you're going to address this, please remember there is 2 V6 options with the Grand Cherokee. There's the 3.6 Pentastar (gas) and the 3.0L Ecodiesel.
You nailed it pal, great video!
Thank you!
First of all I love your channel. Wife and I bought a brand new Grand Cherokee trailhawk in 2018, with the hemi. We have only 18,000 mi, and we've had tons of problems with this vehicle. One of the major problems we've had, twice we went to the garage and our vehicle looked like a low rider. Other words the air suspension has failed twice. Both times we had to have it loaded onto a rollback cuz they told us not to drive it. Do you think if we went to the same size tire as you, that we could still drive it onto a rollback without tearing up the fenders?
Wow, Sorry to hear you have had so many issues with it. We had some issues a while back with our air suspension but it never looked like a low rider. Sounds like you have had it worse than us. As far as going up a tire size and having issues getting it on a roll back. Not really sure. One would hope that this is not an experience that will continue to happen. The fender linings may rub some but hopefully not tear. the tears I have seen are from repeated wearing. Good luck!
When our air suspension failed, all the air had gone out apparently The tires were clear up in the wheel well.
Ours must have been made on a Friday. We've had air suspension fail twice. Two new radios put in it. Radiator fai,l with a leak. A window that was set in wrong from the factory. And just last week back to the garage because the fobs don't work. There's been so many problems with it I'm sure I'm missing some. And it's a shame cuz I'd love the vehicle's handling and power. When it's working it's the funnest vehicle I ever owned.
And I forgot to thank you for your response. So thank you and keep up the great and informative videos.
One thing more, when the air went out of the air suspension, you couldn't get your fingers up past the fender in the tire.it was so tight I was afraid turning the wheel would hit the fenders. My personal opinion is Jeep dropped the ball. I feel they should have used coilover with their suspension on top, to eliminate being able to move the vehicle when the air suspension failed completely.
Our JK weighs 5600lbs unloaded and I run between 12-20psi off road depending on the terrain (I don’t hang out in sand, but I would go down to 10 or so if I did). I might be able to run lower, but I’d rather have a little more pressure than risk popping a bead and severely damaging a tire.
Great video, as always, I miss your face!
Thanks! Good info. And those are 10 ply or 4 ply tires?
@@ProdigalOverland they are 3 ply, actually.
@@jeepgreatstories interesting! Be well and Happy new year!
Do you have a lift kit on your Grand Cherokee trailhawk as well or just the original air suspension?
Just the original air suspension
@@ProdigalOverland awesome thank you
Great video! Just what I was looking for! Was wondering if you have any idea what the lowest psi you would go on a 265/50/r20 wildpeak a/t tire?
I ran 14psi on sand with them and 20psi on rocks and did well...bit of a late reply!
Been binge watching your videos. Love the tutorial nature of your vids, and hoping to use it to transform my 2017 JCG Limited for some off-roading up here in the North East. My main question would be should lifting my suspension since I don't have that inherent capability be my first move, or should I start adding rock sliders and skid plates?
A lift adds ground clearance. Armor takes it away. I’d get higher first and work from there.
Love your channel! I will be buying a trailhawk within the week. Your videos have been super helpful.
I live in NJ let me know if you are aware of any meetups in the northeast
We will probably be that way this spring. Keep an eye out and if you haven’t gone to our website to sign up for the newsletter, you may want too
Hi in Australia Jeep GC are popular but available function info sucks. We have dirt roads very common in country areas, many corrugated. Advice is to use 4wd on dirt even at speed (80kph) with GC that means stop select 4wd high, move on ... is that your experience or leave it in auto mode?
I just leave it in auto mode until I hit situations that require 4 low. But if I’m going at speed. I just leave it in auto.
@@ProdigalOverland just getting my head around this after owning it for years ... so auto is AWD effectively ? your excellent vid explained the 4wd modes well 😎
What about a 275/60r18 (More width). The reason why I am not wanting a Limited is because of the SRT seats in the Trailhawk. I do not see myself going off-road... what All Season tire would you recommend? Do the Wildpeaks you have make a lot of road noise vs OEM? Do you feel I would be better off going taller (265/65r18) vs slightly wider/taller (275/60r18)? Thank you!
We have been very happy with our Falken Wildpeaks as well as our 265 65 r18 tire size. The road noise isn't bad IMO.
I’m running a jeep Grand Cherokee with 18 inch wheels what wheel spacers would you recommend?
I wouldn’t have any to recommend. We are still running stock wheels for now. No spacers. 🤷🏼♂️
I had 10 ply tires on wife’s 2000 Jeep Wrangler and she drove 40 miles to get home on 4 flat tires without realizing it because the sidewalls were so stiff!
I believe it!
How do you air up after trailing?
Currently we is this pump from viar. amzn.to/3MOxOfd
I'm curious of what type of tires are you using? Currently I have a 2004 vw touareg that I have finally got back from the shop for routine maintenance. My curb weight is 5,600 pounds, loaded 6,700 pounds. Any thoughts of a tire for my rig?
We have fallen wildpeak tires. And have been happy with them. BFG ko2s are good as well
How is it to live on the road could you share pros and cons? Or link me to a video that you’d already shared.
We did this when we were just starting out. ruclips.net/video/mitFiD3cg5c/видео.html
Your wk2 tires size and info please
Regards
We have falken wildpeak at3. 265 65 18
Love my KO2 10 Ply 285/70/18 on my Grand Cherokee. If anyone is wanting to go on a trail or something near Louisville Ky let me know.
What do you think about wheel spacers?
We have been with some folks that have them. I haven't seen a practical use for them on the trails. I like the look but I don't need to add another thing that could go wrong.
@@ProdigalOverland great to know... My thinking was they add stability (in my head, no one told me that’s the case) so if not, light that idea on 🔥
@@stevenromero4422 They will widen your base slightly. Very slightly.
I like your channel I got a 12 overland summit it comes with 20 rims can I take it off road
Your GC is 6500 lbs? Yikes, how'd you manage that? Stock GC TH is about 5100 lbs, I believe. Jeeps are too heavy.
That’s with the extra armor, gear and family of 5 riding on our trail days.
Question not related to tire pressure, I own the 5.7 wk2 trailhawk. I’ve been noticing that my coolant temperature runs between 230 and 245 when I’m off-roading. Is this normal?
This is another question I get a bunch. I haven't seen a significant temp rise when we go out off roading. Unless its something like sand dunes. were the engine is really working. I don't have actual numbers on this. I'll have to pay more attention to it.
That’s not right amigo...shouldn’t exceed 220 or so
I keep hitting the subscribe button... lol. Good look at tires and also a political dodge on what to buy. (nice) I liked. Lots of peeps just try to sell what they bought without any knowledge. I like some data. You provided. Hope all is well. Pam is putting last touches on "the video back by the river". See ya soon. V6 rules... lol.. as long as you are not pulling anything more than a side by...
Thank's Rick! Can't wait to see that video!
where can i buy the same rims
These were the stock rims that come with the trailhawk.
@@ProdigalOverland Yes I know. I have one Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 2019. And he has such rims. But for snow, I also want to have a set of such rims for a studded tire. But I can't find where to buy them. Hello from Russia.
(now -27 degrees Celsius and a lot of snow and ice.)
@@alexandrzakharov1729 Man that is cold!!! I was able to find them when I search for OEM wheels on trail hawk. However I have no idea if shipping to Russia is crazy expensive.
@@ProdigalOverland Спасибо! At -45 degrees Celsius, I was driving the Nissan Qashqai. It was equipped with a Webasto pre-heater. The coldest temperature in which I was is -53, but in such weather only on foot and not for long. I haven't used a trailhawk below -30 yet, but it's already clear that the car is very warm and reliable.
@@alexandrzakharov1729 these are crazy temps. No thanks!
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Man this video certainly doesn't help my wallet. I've been debating whether to drop down to 18" wheels on my WK2 Overland so I could have a higher profile tire. Now seeing this video it's really got me thinking if I should go out and by 5 new wheels and tires.
😂 I’m a big fan of using what you have until it breaks. Unless you can resell them for a good price. Good luck!
Just get some JK takeoffs from Craigslist. Should be easy to find and cheap.