Fixing my Oil Burning Mercedes
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Replacing Valve Stem Seals on my W211 Mercedes E500
My 2006 Mercedes E500 was suffering from excessive oil consumption. Upon further inspection, I noticed the valve cover gaskets were leaking. I was also able to diagnose bad valve stem seals due to the blue smoke occurring after idling for a while. Simply blipping the throttle after a few mins of idling would send a big cloud of smoke in the air… and I mean BIG. Replacing the valve stem seals fixed that issue and my oil burning woes are over. During reassembly I also slapped on some new valve cover gaskets which fixed my oil leaking issues as well.
This repair should work for any M112 or M113 engine, as they are essentially the same engine with +/- 2 cylinders.
Do this repair at your own risk. Good luck!
I’ll be monitoring comments for any questions!
List of M113 Cars:
1997-2000 C 43 AMG
1997-2002 E 430
1998-2003 CLK 430
1999-2001 ML 430
1999-2006 S 430
1998-2008 G 500
1999-2006 S 500
1999-2006 SL 500
2000-2006 CL 500
2001-2008 ML 500
2002-2006 CLK 500
2002-2006 E 500
2004-2006 CLS 500
2006-2007 R 500
1997-2000 C 55 AMG
1998-2001 SL 55 AMG
1998-2002 E 55 AMG
2000-2002 S 55 AMG
2000-2003 ML 55 AMG
2000-2003 CLK 55 AMG
2002-2006 CLK 55 AMG
2001-2002 CL 55 AMG
1999-2003 G 55 AMG
2004-2010 SLK 55 AMG
2006-2008 SLK 55 AMG Black Series
2005-2007 C 55 AMG
2003-2006 CL 55 AMG
2002-2006 S 55 AMG
2002-2008 SL 55 AMG
2003-2006 E 55 AMG
2004-2006 CLK DTM AMG
2004-2011 G 55 AMG
2004-2006 CLS 55 AMG
M112 Cars:
1996-2000 W202 C 240
1998-2000 W210 E 240
2000-2005 W203 C 240
2000-2002 W210 E 240
2003-2005 W211 E 240
2002-2005 C209 CLK 240
1998-2000 W202 C 280
1998-2006 W220 S 280
1998-2001 R129 SL 280
1998-2002 W210 E 280
2000-2005 C 320
1998-2005 E 320
1997-2006 G 320
1998-2002 S 320
1998-2003 ML 320
1998-2001 SL 320
2000-2003 SLK 320
1998-2005 CLK 320
2001-2003 C 32 AMG
2001-2003 SLK 32 AMG
just did mine on a 2006 ML 500 with the m113 engine, absolutely no need to mess with ropes or air compressors, just make sure you rotate each piston to TDC while changing the seals. I used a thick cable tie inserted in the spark plug hole to check for TDC. Once you do this, the valves can only go in like 1-2 cm before contacting the piston and the valve stem sticks out at least 2-3 cm, zero chance to drop it inside the cylinder. It's very important to hammer the tops of the valves to loosen the keepers before you remove them, they tend to be kinda stuck and reduce the chance to bend the valve while pressing the spring to remove the keepers.
@typetbgcan can I contact you somehow please? Tomorrow i want to do my valve stems seals :)
1cm of valve to piston clearance ??? I dunno.man
@typetbg If you are Bulgaria, let's get together to do it for my m113, ofc will pay for that.
You mentioned something in this video which is very underrated, and an old mechanic's trick that was passed on down to me from my dad: the use of rope.
I learned to stuff the cylinder with nylon rope, and I never used air ever again. Air sucks as you saw in this video. Too many variables fighting you. Whether it's a tiny leak somewhere, your equipment that can't keep up, the engine wanting to spin on you, or as what happened to you here, the entire valve and spring assembly compressing because the keepers are stuck from the years.
Rope makes life much easier for you, and it's cheaper! I been doing this 21 years now, and it's my go to method.
How do you feed the rope in ? Got any tips
Mercedes are such nice cars
I was taught to rotate the cylinder your working on to top center, apply air pressure. Than way if a valve loses seal it cannot fall into cylinder as the piston itself will block it. As a safety precaution. Outside of that, most informative video, and second replacing all rubber hoses, it's not they may break, they will.
Did You fixed cranshaft at the other end?
@@Parklc13 I'm not understanding the question.
Excellent video.. There's no way I could have done it without watching this. The first two seals were kind of spooky because I knew if the valve fell into the cylinder I was doomed. But after the first few I gained some confidence and it wasn't that bad. I hooked up my air compressor and it went fairly smoothly. I put shop towels all around all the openings in the head cuz I'm the type who would drop one of the keepers in one of the holes and spend 1/2 the day looking for it.. Finally that last exhaust valve, there was no way my particular tool would fit and I could do it properly. The top of the spring compressor tool would hit the heat shield and I could NOT angle it properly. I finally just cut the compressor tool in 1/2 with an angle grinder. Then it fit perfectly.. Of course it makes doing the intake valves impossible in the future, but for $50 I can get another kit. Better than spending thousands if I drop the exhaust valve into the cylinder.
Put the piston you're working on at TDC, that way the valve cannot fall in.
In fact it will only fall a couple of mm even without rope or compressed air 😉
this video, along with the accompanying comments has given me the confidence to tackle this job. Many thanks- RUclips at its best.
Dude you are sooooo knowledgeable and not only that but, you are so patient on explaining it’s right on the money 💪🏻 I have to give you an A+.
Actually with a million ++++++++++++++++ signs
Great job done and thank you for helping me and most definitely others as well! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💯
Informative, educational, yet entertaining! I really enjoy it.Thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
Thank You for the Video, i also wanted to do it on my w211 M112 engine but I was afraid that the valves will fall. Now that I see you doing it, I might have the confidence I can do it too 😊
I used 85psi on my air compressor to keep the valves up. Some people say that’s too much, others say they use more. 85psi worked great for me though. Another method you can try is feeding rope through the spark plug hole and turning the engine until the piston presses the rope against the valves if you don’t have a compressor. Either way will work. Good luck!
100% agree with you on going genuine Mercedes valve cover gasket. I believe fcp used to use elring gaskets, and I had the same thing happen as you with fcp’s kit (which they have since changed to have factory gaskets). The elring ones leaked immediately. No leaks since having the factory ones!
Correct. FCP hasn’t sold that brand for a while I believe but I had bought a set while they were still being sold and they leaked not that long after. The genuine Mercedes ones aren’t that much more $$$ and they won’t leak. Not for a while anyways 😆. Luckily they come with lifetime replacement from fcp anyways 🤷♂️
Had a similar problem on my S600 gearbox sump gasket.
Used Febi and it started leaking after a few hundred miles.
Used original Mercedes, so far so good.
Wonderful job. Clear and detailed.
Wow 🎉 thanks for this great video, I'll definitely buy this kit and use it to replace the valve stems seals on my 2010 Dodge Journey 2.7v6 24valves😢
Bought the exact same kit. Gonna do this next week myself😊
thank you, you made it look so easy, and thanks for showing the tools to use for this job.
This is crazy! Cool technique! Gonna have to try it! And to guy mentioned turning cyl thats Pretty cool saved me taking off the heads.. if compression is good on my engine ill try this burning oil i have 221k miles. Thanks bro.
Your engine looks very healthy from the inside mine is like almost complete black.
привет. отличное видео. я делаю такую работу в России Москва. на м113 работа занимает 2.5-3 часа . на м112 2.5 часа максимум.
Great video! But i have to say that the camshaft bridge bolts are 1 time use torque to yield bolts
He mentions that in the video.
I did this on my 210 e55 last month, seems every 112/113 start to loose their valve seal now. Btw, I also use compressor on passenger side, and can’t brake the keeper on driver side, so I switched to rope method afterward. IMO, rope method works much better in my case, less noise, engine won’t turn, less stressful, and break every keeper flawlessly.
Very well-made video thank you I’ve got the S 55 AMG and I imagine I’ll be doing this in the near future
Very thorough video thank you!
Cool video , I need to do head gasket on my w163 ml500 m113 , & I plan on doing this while the heads are off . It would be a good time to do the dreaded 2 timing cover o-rings
Edit : head gasket never blew it was the timing cover O-rings that failed !
I m doing same job on my car today use the same tools, my 2005 E500 burned a lot of oil for years. it is easy for upper stems but very difficult for bottom inner stems because the tool too long won't fit to remove the bottom inner springs. Your video only showed the easy part but skip the difficult part. But still good video anyway.
Good work.
very nice video very professionnal hope you could do one about the head gasket 🙏🏻😅
Great video! Thanks for posting this : )
Good job ! appreciate the very detailed video too ) but you should def reseal the breather covers as you mentioned towards the end, and it sure would have been easier with the cover off ) those leak just as often as the big covers
I just did the breathers a couple days ago. I noticed a bit of smoke from the exhaust at high rpm which prompted me to check them. Once I took the breathers off I noticed the little pinhole where the air is supposed to come out of was blocked by a bit of sludge in the breather chamber. Whatever car the new valve covers came from must not have been cared for all that well. I cleaned the inside of the valve cover and got any sludge and debris out and reinstalled them on the car. No more smoke!
@@OnlyKelp ya with age they all do that, so def worth pulling and cleaning )
I've done valve stem seals on other engines but the process is the same. It's not exactly what I would call fun but sometimes it is necessary. I've heard all the tricks about using rope and barring the engine over, etc. but it's a waste of time if you have at least minimal shop air. You can put a squeeze clamp on the end of the valve while you are getting parts ready if one is that paranoid. I have an 03 S430 with about 185K on it. It doesn't burn any oil past what is normal. I'm about 1qt low after 10k miles. Hopefully I don't have to do valve stem seals anytime soon.
Nice job 🎉
Great job!!
This isn't a job I'm looking forward to but a job that needs to be done. After reading the description my 06 e500 is having the exact same issue
Ive found on the passenger side you cannot mount the brackets as far forward as you did on the drivers side. Wish id seen the snipe earlier as ive been trying without and it gasses you out quick without it.
Nice video. Thanks for the information. Where can we get this kit for the valve springs? Can you share a link please?
Thank you very much for this video!!! I bought my e430 3 years ago (100k miles) and noted the oil consumption. I bought everything for seal repalcement including the tool you are using (and valve seals, conpressor, etc) but did not have enough confidence to proceed. Could not find videos re this job on m113. So thanks again. You noted you used 85psi? How is the oil consimption now?
Did you remove the Chain tensioner or just removed the Rockerarms without removing the Chain tensioner?
Great video, thx
Thanks for the video!
I have lifter tick. I just want to change the lifters. Do the pistons need to be in a specific position before I remove the valve train? Are the lifters hard to get out of the rocker? Thanks!
you may also want to replace the seals before and after the throttle body. those get hard and allow air and dirt by.
Great advice, thank you! I noticed mine looked a bit crusty last time I had taken off the intake piping
@@OnlyKelphello, please did you put every cylinder to top dead center and afterwards you filled it with air? Or you just put there 85psi to each cylinder, without turning the cylinders to TBD? :)
Did you use new camshaft bridge bolts ?
شكرا ❤❤❤
Can you please do video on transmission fluid flush? Don’t know how to reach the radiator hose.
Dude you are way too relaxed doing this job. I just did valve seals on my BMW N63 engine I was hard job. But I got it done.
FYI anyone trying to do this job just be careful do not push down on the valve if you drop valve down you are royalty Fucked
Good video tho
Timing chain is beautiful after so many miles. Super clean. Was it replaced?
Nope, all original! The car has been in my family since 60k miles and has been serviced regularly. I’m creeping up on 300k miles too!
What site did you go to for bolt pattern removing and replacing it
Would be great if you show how to remove and install camshafts on 112 or 113 engine.
Once you get as far as I did with the tear down in this video you just have to remove one more bolt that holds the sprocket for the timing chain to the camshaft. Just make sure to put a couple zip ties around the chain/sprocket so you don’t mess up timing. Once it’s disconnected, the camshaft lifts out quite easily.
If you Google Kleemann camshaft installation you can find a PDF on Kleemann's website showing instructions. It's not a video though. Just pictures and words.
@@theinsaneshecklador6598
Hehe, I know that, but 1 is what is written and 2 is what have to be done in the real situation.
Thank's for the tip :)
@@W210Garage 👍
Did you also replaced the camshaft bridge with new bolt?
Ethan I know this video is older but do you happen to links for everything needed to do this job? I was only able to find the valve cover gaskets pcv hoses and valve seals I’m looking for the spring compressor and the bolts that hold down the valve train TIA
Thx! So just a quick question. So where were you at markings at harmonic balancer? Did you changed it for each cilinder for using Air compression?
Thx for the answer
Nice work man!! Im gunna do my 05 CLK55 AMG in the next couple weeks. Did you use 10 or 15 nm PLUS 90° for the valve train?
Did you ever do yours? I need to do this to my CLK55 also.
@@derrickmonares3865 not yet. I'm still waiting on a couple parts to show up that I ordered.
Do know the part number for the rockerarm bolts? Or size. Hard to find. Ty
Can you tell me what amount of oil the engine was losing? Mine is a M112 3,2 and the losses are about 1 litre per 1000km.
Hi , I have a question. What's the quantity you were losing of oil ? I'm losing around 2 litres in one month , M113K
How did you verify it was the valve seals
@@ThatE55Kid509 The car would puff a big cloud of blue smoke every few minutes it idle. In the mornings when I would start the car I’d also get a big cloud of blue smoke. After replacing the valve seals, this went away completely.
Nice work, thanks!
how many bar of air are you blowing in cylinder?
@@serkanserkan111 I believe I was using 80psi in this but that is a bit excessive. Since then I’ve done this job one more time on another m113 and I used 30 psi
Thanks for the video!
I want to change noisy lifters. Is it hard to get them out of the rockers?
Tasos Moschatos has a good video on the lifters if anyone in the future has the same question. I think XF Motorsports also shows it in his E55 rebuild series.
Hi. Does the harmonic balancer need to be in a particular position before removing the rockers? Thanks
Im currently doing same job same tool...question: since there are two sparkplugs per cylinder does it matter which one I connect the air compressor to also do i need to cover other hole or no? Thanks
It doesn’t matter which whole you connect the air too. Just make sure you leave the other spark plug in unless all the air would escape
Using the compressed air method the engine rotates a bit, does this hurt the timing? Do you have to do anything to the timing after doing this job considering the camshaft rotates a bit after applying pressure to the cylinder?
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Thanks!
Hi. It does not hurt the timing because everything is connected by the really solid chains. No timing adjustment will be necessary. Greetings from Bavaria/Germany
I recently purchased a 2003 E 500 sport from Arizona and shipped BB it to RI. 72k , no corrosion anywhere, dealer serviced,new shocks,struts,springs, rear main seal, motor mounts,crank pulley,trans svc.,new radiator,new michelins,new front brakes,mirror gaskets,and ps res. Do you have any suggestions for repairing ribbon cable to piano roof rear ligjts?
Sorry auto spell. I have the panoramic sunroof. The interior rear lights have broken ribbon cables, do you have any suggestions regarding repair?
@@georgeanddaddecker7563 Unfortunately all the W211s I’ve owned have had the regular sunroof so I don’t have any experience working with panoramic sunroofs. Maybe one day!
I have exactly the same problem for a Slk 350. I find anyone to do it.. so the problem is still there
You can just use a valve remove tool you don't need to buy that device
How does that work as opposed to the tool in the video?
How much torque for the rocker arms?
Long bolts to be replaced ,,,10Nm and then 90 degrees.
Short bolts ,,15 Nm.
@@Leonardo555ZZZ thnx
Are thoes bolts also called cylinder head to timing case bolts? Having trouble finding thoes bolts. I got the valves keepers from MB dealer, but they are not finding bolts.
Did this fix your oil consumption issue?
For the most part yes, although I still have some blue smoke coming from the exhaust above 4,500rpm. Luckily I'm not at that rpm very often. I suspect I have a few sticking piston rings.
2 things , No 1 wash the motor before stripping it. No 2 , that cheap loud exhaust does not belong on a Mercedes 😉😉
Did you replace the rocker bearing bolts? I am a little confused. Can you tell in overall how many bolts do i have to need? I'm going to replace Camshafts and can't understand in overall how many bolts and which ones have i need to replace. Engine M113. EPC shows different part numbers...
I have complete kits for sale. All OEM parts, up to 75% discounted directly from Mercedes.
@@Bastard_Operator_From_Hell
Have ordered from MB totally 38 bolts.
So you have complete kits to do this valve stem seal replacement? OK, if so lets talk. I need all necessary items (seals, bolts) for my 2006 CLK500.@@Bastard_Operator_From_Hell
@@dalemartin684Yes I do.
You wasted too much time to get to your point.
WTF with the hillbilly exaust system Insult to a Mercedes🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂🤦♂
@@c-teamtrading9690 don’t worry, it’s back to stock now
Real hack job
32:37 cam bridge