Varied Not Random #99: Does CrossFit make you less athletic?
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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A VNR listener asked, “Does CrossFit make you less athletic?”
The listener also asked how to program to get out of the up/down & forward/back planes we often train in.
Pat & Adrian explore these questions.
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ABOUT PAT:
Pat Sherwood has held credentials up to & including being a Level 4 CrossFit Coach. He worked for CrossFit, Inc for 14 years in various roles including media, health & seminar staff. He is married with 3 kids. He is the owner of CrossFit Linchpin, enjoys ice cream & hates handstand push-ups.
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Boz started dabbling with CrossFit at the end of 2004 and got his L1 in early 2006. He has coached at:
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Question maybe for a future episode!
We constantly hear that "comparison is the thief of joy," but as an affiliate member working on improving oneself alongside the same people day by day, isn't there a healthy extent of comparison to others?
The guys I work out with daily I've become close with, and they've improved in many ways, as I have as well. We constantly compete on the leaderboard, harmlessly. Curious what you guys think of this type of thing, speaking to healthy competition / comparison in the affiliate.
Question for Boz, I’ve heard him mention several times how versatile and underutilized the jump rope is for most athletes, saying there is so much more to it than singles and doubles. So, I’d love to hear more about what we can do with the jump rope. That said, I myself am still working on double unders, but could probably benefit from some variety as I continue to struggle to master this elusive movement. Thanks.
PS - I love the podcast!
Thomas Sowell being mentioned in this conversation gives me great joy.
With a question like this, it’s important to define terms. What does “athletic” mean? To me, an athlete is someone who demonstrates proficiency in all of the 10 general skills, but especially the neurological components (coordination, agility, balance, accuracy, power, and speed). If these are the parameters for athleticism, I would argue that CrossFit makes you more athletic than any other training protocol besides perhaps sports specific training.
To dive a bit more into what Boz and Pat said in general terms. CrossFit is great at general prep for sport. All of the movements mimic the rate of force production needed for sprinting, running, tackling, throwing a ball, jumping, swinging a bat, etc etc. it would be inappropriate and unsafe to add weight to almost any sport specific movement but the movements of CrossFit have a direct carry over to any sport. I argue that CrossFit is great for general prep for sport and then increasingly specific training for the given sport is needed the closer to competition. Ie: American football needs more power training , softball more power specificity, basketball more conditioning, on and on. Even more important is the need for sport specific metabolic conditioning. An American football player or college level softball player doesn’t need the endurance to keep moving for 20 minutes straight but only needs short intervals over a long time period where a soccer player need short intense intervals but needs to be able to keep moving for 10 minutes at a time.
Agree, and also, remember that specific sports also had Physical/strength tests as metrics related to your improvement. I bet that anyone doing CrossFit will equal or even improve their scores on those test from when they we're fully training their sport. So potentially, if they body could handle the specialized/technical training, they could even be better or more athletic (not my case, my joints wouldn't be able to handle the gymnastics training again for 30+ hours per week)
Loved this one. I always walk away from these episodes with so much to think about and improve on and feeling better about not being perfect at all the things, but ready to continue to grow and improve always. I am definitely team Pat, under the don’t fall forever athlete vs the instant perfect CF athlete. 😂 took me forever to learn things and still learning! Thanks for making the time to do this podcast especially with how busy you guys are. Every VNR episode is gold! 🤩
Question for possibly another podcast. I know for the games you dissected the programming, would it be possible to have Boz direct the CrossFit open programming and what went behind the thought process of each workout. Another question off of that would be I know this test is to set up for the games but is there any thought process at all of the average CrossFitter when programming the open or is this just for the first “test” of the games?
stay tuned for tomorrow's episode
I love this show! Two of my favorite crossfit OG’s. I think for the athleticism portion maybe you guys can go in to more detail on how to maintain fast twitch muscles rather then the your old approach.
Boz said it all ( Fatigue resistant) exactly...
Adrian plays dodgeball with a softball!?
CrossFit should have weight classes you will never see a male champion at 150-170lbs.