Miko tried several times to fix the relationship but it seems usada just won't accept it. look at Flower Rhapsody's video: Pekora is not there. Miko finally has given up on fixing her relationship with usada & accept the sad reality the best we can hope are just accidental short interaction like this or forced collab like that Deco song (thank God they both still love money)
Funny how in Holo Rust they became nemesis but in same time also barely talk each other, but that makes their interaction more hilarious since in that game they talked more using their guns and c4..
I'm really happy to see they have a short moment together but it's really hurt reading comment. People just focus on how Pekora not direct call Miko name or Miko not call Pekora name without knowing Miko always call Pekora as Usada. Also Pekora tried to reach to Miko first when she ask if someone can give her a ride, but her voice is low so Miko didn't hear it at all (you can check Miko's POV) and Miko call Koyori instead because Koyori is nearest. Also when Miko call Pekora at first she didn't hear it because the distance (check Pekora's POV) but then when she hear Miko's voice she immediately turn back to check if Miko's okay. And Pekora worry Miko at the back might get hurt instead just keep silence. Of course they try their best to not interact if possible but that not mean they're not caring each other. But the fans always get aggressive at every single time they interact, common, it's two or three years already. Why can't you guys shut up?
if you watch Flower Rhapsody you will be hurt even more. the rabbit is not there, now the feeling is mutual (previously miko always tried to fix the relationship by approaching usada whenever she has a chance)
Who's to say they *do* care nowadays? Respect yes but it's not like we know the full truth. Besides that's why people fixate on it so much because while yes, some are looking for the ship but more importantly people like me are looking for the truth. Answers
I think it's just the awkwardness to start a conversation because there's little interaction between them for a long time. In the rust event they're still doing shenanigans like they're used to.
A sip of PekoMiko(even though they sounded very distant) in these trying times. Unfortunately, slightly awkward. I guess PekoMiko is fully over. Now we’re losing AquPeko, too. Sad day
Who knows. Maybe aqua leaving will finally wake her up. Get out of her shell to try and rekindle thier friendship or even try and be closer with other members. We may never truly know what happened between these two.
That’s crazy, I don’t wanna know what happened between them but I’m also DYING to know lol. Whatever it was was serious because it’s been YEARS and they still don’t talk directly.
@@RickiTikkiTavi Sorry but that's not it, they have an actual problem, Miko even had to ask Pekora if she hated her, Peko said no. Stuff like that is not from shippers lol
@@RickiTikkiTavi as much as i want to believe it is because of shippers, their behavior tells another story, the tone of their voice and how they avoid each other is the same pattern someone who doesn't like or have problem with one another. people can speculate the reasons, thats human nature to find out things if they find it out of ordinary.
The sync is still there... 😊 but the awkwardness is very thick between them. I remember when Matsuri praised Miko on stream saying that she(Miko), still the same humble person that she know (from nobody to a very well known vtuber). While some holomem had changed -meaning irl. In the end, we are all just human being. 🤷
@@SonY_Kun yup. Miko is always loved by many. I've seen a lot of holomems praising her on streams (Lui, Matsuri, Kobo, Subaru, Chloe to name a few). She's known as a caring senpai, who never puts an air and is easy to talk to.
But really I wonder what happened between them? Maybe in IRL? People say they distance themselves because of Pekomiko shipping thing but it is so strange that they both try to ignore each other so hard. I guess something happened between them. But I am happy for them both.
You can pinpoint where the rift started... And it's right after their Christmas sleepover off collab. Whatever happened in that collab made a lasting effect even to this day...
@@MitchJustChill The last one they had, the one from Dec 2020. But that's incorrect regardless, they started drifting apart a few months later, not after the sleepover.
Ignore them, people keep babbling bullsh*t about that Christmas incident (2020) just base on a joke from Miko and nobody bother to check it out, they just eat what they was told. They're forgot that Pekora help Miko during building sport festival (2021) and also Miko encourage to get the first place during Pekora participate, not mention they still pranking each other in the RUST (2022).
I always found it interesting how they strictly avoid talking about or to each other unless it is necessary. I did find out that there had been a controversy regarding "fans(shippers are the worst kind of fans)" shipping them and harassing others. I think they are just in caution mode, not really in bad terms or anything. Given they both are excellent producers full of great ideas, I do hope I see them collaborate on a big project together.
@@mindcaztackerman1160 The thing is, neither Miko or Pekora liked it when shippers shipped them. And PekoMiko shippers became fanatic, MiComet shippers are not and much in due part to Miko and Suisei keeping them in check (even moreso after what happened with PekoMiko). One particular time Miko lost a bet or similar with her viewers and she was forced to "confess" to Pekora as the punishment by PekoMiko viewers. Miko genuinely asked them if they could change the punishment to something else as "me and Usada aren't like that" and she was visibly and audibly uncomfortable with the punishment. "Aren't like that" as in not romantic. PekoMiko viewers refused. Miko "confessed" to Pekora and again was visibly and audibly uncomfortable with it. Then PekoMiko viewers forced her to "confess" yet again because Miko didn't "put enough emotion into it". You could tell Miko hated every single second of it and didn't want to do it. That wasn't the only time she had to point out to them that she and Pekora are just friends and not to overdo it either, but they never listened. Taking all this into account, the main reason is definitely shippers. They're short and casual with each other so as not to "trigger" the PekoMiko shippers lest they become rabid like they did when Pekora and Miko interacted during the 2021 sports festival. Hell, PekoMiko shippers even harassed MiKorone in the waiting room for their 24h stream. Saying "WHY ARE YOU STREAMING WITH KORONE INSTEAD OF PEKORA" and such. I don't blame them for wanting nothing to do with viewers like that.
@@MitchJustChill my guess is during the sleep over event. Miko unkowingly did something that make pekora angry. That's their last interaction, then broken hearted Miko asked marine if pekora is angry with her. After that, everything they said are just damage control. Miko did tried to approached pekora several times to fix their relationship but none of those works sadly (during mario kart, sport festival, etc).
yup, It's over. Just look at the recent miko's Flower Rhapsody, it details her journey in hololive, from nobody, GTA minecraft, Ark, watame janken, new year show with korone, meeting sora for the first time, shiraken, sport festival, micomet, vacation with subaru & mio, etc. pekora is not in the video. It's heart breaking but Miko finally accept that fixing her relationship with usada is impossible
If Aqua could become closer to Pekora...you guys think Pekora and miko can get closer like they once was. Theres always gonna be weirdo fans but if they take the suisei route. I genuinely believe we could get another arc.
No man. Come on, it's been like 3-4 years of 0 collab. It's truly over at this point. A bit of interaction is nice but their duo is totally over by now.
I think most people here in the comments are new or not familiar with what really happened in pekomiko. first of all, them not saying their first names are are normal to them. and second don't force them to interact or be friendly again with each other (cuz some weirdos might ship them again) respect the distance they've been doing. pekomiko have a strong stance of separating work from IRL. and yeah if you ask what happens why pekomiko have come to this? its because some hardcore fans harass a member from other branch just because they collab(i fell bad for moona for that), and yeah they hate pekora and become anti's/haters just because she collabs with other talents, and that's also the reason why all pairing in holo in gone like a wind. RIP PecoMiko. Respect their distance btw! if you hate it don't watch it.
Not all pairings are gone in hololive. Some of them still interact, mentioning and collabing with each other eventho it's every now and then. The same can't be said to pekomiko.
I dont think it was fully the shippers, I also think some hate got spread to others as well. They have had a few different normal interactions with each other in the last few years. They legit did a duo song a year ago that cover put together based on relationships the talents had. Im not thinking Cover would risk 2 talents having issues with each other and forcing them into a song. Miko has said before that the pressure and reactions and comments about them during their hayday got to them. Its why she and Suisei went so hard with the "business partner" thing because they started to see all the "teetee" comments when they collabed. Im also sure other talent got hate for "coming between" pekomiko and that probably didnt help.
Wow this goes beyond just being awkward together. They barely even acknowledge each other, with Miko saying Usada instead of Pekora showing a lot of distance between them. I have seen Miko call her Usada before, but seeing them interact like that with Pekora not even saying Miko's name was strange. Even more so, at the end, Koyori saying Miko could now ride with her was clearly a "helping hand" gesture. I was thinking that the rupture between them was just them now wanting to be shipped again (although i always found it a little bit strange) but i'm not so sure anymore. Some people here in the comments said they think there might have been some failing out between them because of the shipping, and i'm leaning towards that. It's fine for them to avoid collabing, but them not even saying each other's first name on a group collab is just too strange.
The shipping doesnt make any sense. As others have pointed out you can pinpoint the moment things changed. The shipping is not the only rrat out there man
She didnt even call Miko name 💀 Anw, idk if they have any agure or smt but i copnium this little interact would make them a little closer together like before
It's not a good idea to make a clip about them. People are still not ready to let go of PekoMiko. If we fuck this up and then there'll be never any chance in the future
I really don't like pekora and idk why, maybe because miko is my oshi? But no matter how much I dislike pekora, i will never wish for her to graduate during the peak of her career.
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PEKOMIKO FANS EATING GOOD RN (This is only 2 minutes of interaction, they will never talk again in the next 2 years)
>Chooses Koyori first
>Calls her the person behind me
Ouch. 😔
Koyo is always the one either Pekora or Miko calls whenever there's a major collab from Rust to Minecraft.
Hahahaha 😂
It's caused by the community itself, their relationship becomes a weird day by day
Miko tried several times to fix the relationship but it seems usada just won't accept it.
look at Flower Rhapsody's video: Pekora is not there. Miko finally has given up on fixing her relationship with usada & accept the sad reality
the best we can hope are just accidental short interaction like this or forced collab like that Deco song (thank God they both still love money)
They're like Naruto and Sasuke. Barely talk nowadays but still respect each other.
Funny how in Holo Rust they became nemesis but in same time also barely talk each other, but that makes their interaction more hilarious since in that game they talked more using their guns and c4..
koyori mvp
Alright people.... DONT FK THIS UP.
They didn't even talk, there's nothing to fuck up.
Nah
@@everhart3039 RESPECT THEM.
Some idiot fked up once right? Bcuz I won't
Sadly, there are always weirdos who can't control themselves
I'm really happy to see they have a short moment together but it's really hurt reading comment.
People just focus on how Pekora not direct call Miko name or Miko not call Pekora name without knowing Miko always call Pekora as Usada.
Also Pekora tried to reach to Miko first when she ask if someone can give her a ride, but her voice is low so Miko didn't hear it at all (you can check Miko's POV) and Miko call Koyori instead because Koyori is nearest.
Also when Miko call Pekora at first she didn't hear it because the distance (check Pekora's POV) but then when she hear Miko's voice she immediately turn back to check if Miko's okay.
And Pekora worry Miko at the back might get hurt instead just keep silence.
Of course they try their best to not interact if possible but that not mean they're not caring each other.
But the fans always get aggressive at every single time they interact, common, it's two or three years already. Why can't you guys shut up?
Your the only one getting aggressive l
How about you shut up
if you watch Flower Rhapsody you will be hurt even more. the rabbit is not there, now the feeling is mutual (previously miko always tried to fix the relationship by approaching usada whenever she has a chance)
Who's to say they *do* care nowadays? Respect yes but it's not like we know the full truth. Besides that's why people fixate on it so much because while yes, some are looking for the ship but more importantly people like me are looking for the truth. Answers
Don't give me hope...
there is no hope, miko is suppose to ride with koyori. We're just lucky that koyo's dino don't have enough weight stats
I get very nostalgic seeing pekomiko 😊
the last time i see pekomiko talking a lot was the rust 2022😫
And even that, they talked more using their guns, rockets, and c4 rather than talking properly lol..
Awwwwwww the og duo 😢 only this would ever heal me from aqutan and achan graduation
rare pekomiko!
POV: taking your divorced parents out to dinner together
I think it's just the awkwardness to start a conversation because there's little interaction between them for a long time. In the rust event they're still doing shenanigans like they're used to.
Well i'll take what i can get
ill eat even breadcrumbs
A sip of PekoMiko(even though they sounded very distant) in these trying times.
Unfortunately, slightly awkward. I guess PekoMiko is fully over.
Now we’re losing AquPeko, too.
Sad day
Who knows. Maybe aqua leaving will finally wake her up. Get out of her shell to try and rekindle thier friendship or even try and be closer with other members. We may never truly know what happened between these two.
@@TheJum Pekora has something with pink girl
and purple @@kiaconkbodho35
@@kiaconkbodho35 I am very fond of PeKoyo, and hope to see more of it
@@TheJum PeKoyo in HoloRust was such a peak moment..
兎田呼びからしか得られない物がある
we truly are scraping the bottom of rhe barrel for pekomiko content
The day Miko graduate is the day when I cry. Even though she is not my oshi.
don't jinx it, we are still waiting for her to play GTA 6
after aqua graduation i guess everything can happen but please just no @@seulbilee1025
when I lost my girlfriend even though I had been in a relationship for 2 years I felt fine, but if I lost elite miko maybe I would cry too
yeah she's not my oshi but i really respect her and she always makes me laugh. I'll 100% cry
Gonna treasure this rare af moment
zangg this is awkward...
wow, this is a very rare sight, been a while since I saw them
I really miss the PekoMiko days....The early years of Hololive was so fun, now there are so many weird fans I don't have much fun as I used to😂
Real bro
I miss that Usada.
Thank you Koyo. You're yhe MVP.
We are so desperate that when they are relatively on the same screen it becomes an event lol.
That’s crazy, I don’t wanna know what happened between them but I’m also DYING to know lol. Whatever it was was serious because it’s been YEARS and they still don’t talk directly.
Basically the shippers kept screaming PEKOMIKO to the point where neither of them liked it. Like more than Kiara/Calli or Korone/Okayu.
Could be just they are getting along just fine backstage, but actively keeping a distance in public because of radical shippers.
@@RickiTikkiTavi Sorry but that's not it, they have an actual problem, Miko even had to ask Pekora if she hated her, Peko said no. Stuff like that is not from shippers lol
Basically JP fans are cringe and can’t just let things be normal and have to Yuri ship.
@@RickiTikkiTavi as much as i want to believe it is because of shippers, their behavior tells another story, the tone of their voice and how they avoid each other is the same pattern someone who doesn't like or have problem with one another. people can speculate the reasons, thats human nature to find out things if they find it out of ordinary.
Naniii is the sun rising from the west now
I'm feeling nostalgic
PEKOMIKO dream come true man
LETSGO!!!! PEKOMIKO OG
The sync is still there... 😊 but the awkwardness is very thick between them.
I remember when Matsuri praised Miko on stream saying that she(Miko), still the same humble person that she know (from nobody to a very well known vtuber). While some holomem had changed -meaning irl.
In the end, we are all just human being. 🤷
@@SonY_Kun yup. Miko is always loved by many. I've seen a lot of holomems praising her on streams (Lui, Matsuri, Kobo, Subaru, Chloe to name a few). She's known as a caring senpai, who never puts an air and is easy to talk to.
Pekora got full of herself but got humbled when marine trounced her in subs after gloating she'd hit 2 million first in JP.
@@OC.TINYYYthe 3 comments who made on these clips are all negative and I've seen better bait from a fisherman.
@@MitchJustChill I love me some good bait
@@praigeki Yup. Lamy, Noel, Watame as well
The comments did not disappoint.
PekoMiko? after all this time?!?
But really I wonder what happened between them? Maybe in IRL? People say they distance themselves because of Pekomiko shipping thing but it is so strange that they both try to ignore each other so hard. I guess something happened between them. But I am happy for them both.
You can pinpoint where the rift started... And it's right after their Christmas sleepover off collab. Whatever happened in that collab made a lasting effect even to this day...
@@ccg2301which one?
@@ccg2301 more lore/link pls 🙏
@@MitchJustChill The last one they had, the one from Dec 2020. But that's incorrect regardless, they started drifting apart a few months later, not after the sleepover.
Ignore them, people keep babbling bullsh*t about that Christmas incident (2020) just base on a joke from Miko and nobody bother to check it out, they just eat what they was told. They're forgot that Pekora help Miko during building sport festival (2021) and also Miko encourage to get the first place during Pekora participate, not mention they still pranking each other in the RUST (2022).
PekoMiko Tete ❤
I'm sure they'll kill me for saying this, but...am I the only one who feels like the tension could be cut with a knife?
Pekomiko more like fuwamoco but comedian 🤣
cute
I always found it interesting how they strictly avoid talking about or to each other unless it is necessary. I did find out that there had been a controversy regarding "fans(shippers are the worst kind of fans)" shipping them and harassing others. I think they are just in caution mode, not really in bad terms or anything. Given they both are excellent producers full of great ideas, I do hope I see them collaborate on a big project together.
I hate that shippers have taken over most fandoms.
@@nigelis2345 you and me bro. stay strong
I actually don't think the shippers are the main reason. Because MiComet shippers are also there but they don't have any issues with it.
I doubt it's still about shippers after 3 years. even if it is there's no reason to fully avoid each other like the plague.
@@mindcaztackerman1160 The thing is, neither Miko or Pekora liked it when shippers shipped them. And PekoMiko shippers became fanatic, MiComet shippers are not and much in due part to Miko and Suisei keeping them in check (even moreso after what happened with PekoMiko).
One particular time Miko lost a bet or similar with her viewers and she was forced to "confess" to Pekora as the punishment by PekoMiko viewers. Miko genuinely asked them if they could change the punishment to something else as "me and Usada aren't like that" and she was visibly and audibly uncomfortable with the punishment. "Aren't like that" as in not romantic. PekoMiko viewers refused. Miko "confessed" to Pekora and again was visibly and audibly uncomfortable with it. Then PekoMiko viewers forced her to "confess" yet again because Miko didn't "put enough emotion into it".
You could tell Miko hated every single second of it and didn't want to do it. That wasn't the only time she had to point out to them that she and Pekora are just friends and not to overdo it either, but they never listened.
Taking all this into account, the main reason is definitely shippers. They're short and casual with each other so as not to "trigger" the PekoMiko shippers lest they become rabid like they did when Pekora and Miko interacted during the 2021 sports festival. Hell, PekoMiko shippers even harassed MiKorone in the waiting room for their 24h stream. Saying "WHY ARE YOU STREAMING WITH KORONE INSTEAD OF PEKORA" and such.
I don't blame them for wanting nothing to do with viewers like that.
i can die peacefully now. 🙏
They are so awkward like a one night stand couple from work. Guess the christmas event didn't turn out well back in the day. lol
Which one
@@MitchJustChill my guess is during the sleep over event. Miko unkowingly did something that make pekora angry. That's their last interaction, then broken hearted Miko asked marine if pekora is angry with her. After that, everything they said are just damage control.
Miko did tried to approached pekora several times to fix their relationship but none of those works sadly (during mario kart, sport festival, etc).
0:46
For people who think that their distance/treatment each other is a prank & someday they will say "Its a prank!"
Wake up bro, its so over...
How are they distant
yup, It's over. Just look at the recent miko's Flower Rhapsody, it details her journey in hololive, from nobody, GTA minecraft, Ark, watame janken, new year show with korone, meeting sora for the first time, shiraken, sport festival, micomet, vacation with subaru & mio, etc.
pekora is not in the video. It's heart breaking but Miko finally accept that fixing her relationship with usada is impossible
If Aqua could become closer to Pekora...you guys think Pekora and miko can get closer like they once was. Theres always gonna be weirdo fans but if they take the suisei route. I genuinely believe we could get another arc.
I don't think the problem is only the shippers. They could always just shrugged it off. Also, not everyone can be suisei, she's built different.
Yeah no, It's over. It's so dry lol.
PekoMiko is still alive!!!! Let's not lose hope for their collab sometime!
No man. Come on, it's been like 3-4 years of 0 collab. It's truly over at this point. A bit of interaction is nice but their duo is totally over by now.
@@lolcall5295 what happened between them?
@@ieoeidk probably some irl stuff. They stopped interacting sometime after the christmas collab
Uncomfortable.
I think most people here in the comments are new or not familiar with what really happened in pekomiko.
first of all, them not saying their first names are are normal to them.
and second don't force them to interact or be friendly again with each other (cuz some weirdos might ship them again) respect the distance they've been doing.
pekomiko have a strong stance of separating work from IRL.
and yeah if you ask what happens why pekomiko have come to this?
its because some hardcore fans harass a member from other branch just because they collab(i fell bad for moona for that), and yeah they hate pekora and become anti's/haters just because she collabs with other talents, and that's also the reason why all pairing in holo in gone like a wind. RIP PecoMiko.
Respect their distance btw! if you hate it don't watch it.
I'm new to watching vtubers, Your comment gave me the reason why they have chat rule that don't bring up other streamer's name
so it is bad apple
Not all pairings are gone in hololive. Some of them still interact, mentioning and collabing with each other eventho it's every now and then. The same can't be said to pekomiko.
Damn, Pekora won't even say her name. This was so hard to watch...
There is still hope, I hope 😂
💀💀💀
Miko is so nice. I don't want to see her leave us like Aqua.
I dont think it was fully the shippers, I also think some hate got spread to others as well. They have had a few different normal interactions with each other in the last few years. They legit did a duo song a year ago that cover put together based on relationships the talents had. Im not thinking Cover would risk 2 talents having issues with each other and forcing them into a song. Miko has said before that the pressure and reactions and comments about them during their hayday got to them. Its why she and Suisei went so hard with the "business partner" thing because they started to see all the "teetee" comments when they collabed. Im also sure other talent got hate for "coming between" pekomiko and that probably didnt help.
It was never the shippers. That rrat died on arrival
Wow this goes beyond just being awkward together. They barely even acknowledge each other, with Miko saying Usada instead of Pekora showing a lot of distance between them. I have seen Miko call her Usada before, but seeing them interact like that with Pekora not even saying Miko's name was strange.
Even more so, at the end, Koyori saying Miko could now ride with her was clearly a "helping hand" gesture. I was thinking that the rupture between them was just them now wanting to be shipped again (although i always found it a little bit strange) but i'm not so sure anymore.
Some people here in the comments said they think there might have been some failing out between them because of the shipping, and i'm leaning towards that.
It's fine for them to avoid collabing, but them not even saying each other's first name on a group collab is just too strange.
Miko always called pekora as Usada, always. But yeah it was kinda awkward.
Miko's been calling her Usada/Upe since the beginning.
The shipping doesnt make any sense. As others have pointed out you can pinpoint the moment things changed. The shipping is not the only rrat out there man
Girls can get like that, not talking to each other for no reason.
She didnt even call Miko name 💀
Anw, idk if they have any agure or smt but i copnium this little interact would make them a little closer together like before
It's not a good idea to make a clip about them. People are still not ready to let go of PekoMiko. If we fuck this up and then there'll be never any chance in the future
Shut up. We didn't do anything..nothing happened
Peko shouldve been the one to graduate not Aqua
You’re going to put a target on your back like that.
I assume this is one of Spectrum's alt accounts.
@@ccg2301 I hope that’s a troll
I really don't like pekora and idk why, maybe because miko is my oshi? But no matter how much I dislike pekora, i will never wish for her to graduate during the peak of her career.
@@tristan4558 tf is that supposed to mean? That's like saying "I don't like Lemon, maybe because I like Apple" it doesn't make sense
at least miko stays humble as always, unlike the others
pekora fell off hard fr
My hope has ended with "snow song show" 🥲
can someone tell me what happened between them????,.like why are they so silent and why Pekora doesn't even call Miko by name????,.