How to Write an Antagonist - Inside Out 2
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- After Puss in Boots The Last Wish it proved that animation is a perfect excuse to make an antagonist that truly impacts the audience as much as the protagonist does.
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Everyone loves a good villain but sometimes, you need a good antagonist.
Exactly
Fr
Fr
Agreed
Couldn't have said it better myself
Another little detail is that when Riley crashes into her friend, she says she didn’t even see her.
At the start of the movie Anxiety says Fear protects Riley from what she can see, while Anxiety from what she can’t see. Fear wasn’t there to stop Riley, and Anxiety couldn’t fill that role.
ooooooooo that's a good observation.
Whoa! Good point!
I think you said from what she can't see twice, is that a mistake?
Good point! I hadn't even noticed that!
At the start of the movie, Fear also protects Riley from bumping on other people too, which makes her pick the wrong mouth guard
The most simple yet most reliable way to create an antagonist is to have them have good intentions but unethical methods.
So its like, making an anti-villain? :o
@@cheese__cakeIt's Anti-hero,Anti-villain is a character Who is a villain but can do good stuff like Dr Doofenshmirtz
Illumi Zoldyck
Anxiety
Miles Edgeworth?
I would name more but im drawing a blank xD
*insert Thanos*
Hitler?
its funny because technically... joy was both the protagonist and the antagonist of the first movie.
her goal was to keep riley happy but she opposed her own goals by going about it the wrong way.
...kinda like anxiety does in this movie... actually when yoy think about it their arcs are almost the same, they both learn that supressing other emotions to do things their way is bad for riley.
thats also why joy in this movie always works with the other emotions and not just alone
Honestly, honestly, Joy wasn’t bad in the first movie she just didn’t really understand sadness or her role so instead of trying to understand sadness, she just tried to push sadness away. We all argue. The anxiety was way worse than joy. Joy Just wanted to cover everything up with optimism anxiety wanted to change everything
@@blackqweenmars thats what im saying! both joy and anxiety basically had the same arc. they had the best intentions, wanting the best for riley, but they pushed the other emotions aside thinking they knew better whats good for her, but only hurting her in the end.
Exactly ! Joy was definitely at the same time the protagonist but also the actual antagonist (not villain) of the first movie coz under all the smiles, she was a control freak and was in "my way or the high way" mode. Which made her character arc about discovering the value of sadness after losing Bing Bong, and finally be a team player instead of a dictator.
Which kinda bummed me out at the beginning of the movie since we see her first happily give the reign to her teammates (great, she learned from her mistakes from the first movie)... and sent all the "unnecessary" memories to fly to the back of Riley's mind so that her personality tree could be exactly as she sees fit (Aaargh ! She hasn't learnt anything at all !). That's the kind of stuff I don't like about sequels, where all the lessons from the previous movie are basically rubbed under the carpet, and here we go for another round.
So now, Joy has to, once again, relearn to let go, and at the end, impart that lesson to Anxiety, who's basically having the exact same character arc than Joy in the first movie.
So I'm a bit frustrated by this movie. On the one hand there are so many magnificent moments, and overall, it's certainly a near flawless movie that I really enjoyed, but the more I think about it, the more just this one detail of Joy having forgotten her lesson from the first movie so that she has to relearn it, and the entire premice of the movie is hinging on it is kinda bumming me out.
That was my main issue with the sequel we essentially have the same problem of suppressing emotions and the same lesson in the end that all the emotions need to work in unison.
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I wish Embarrassment, Envy, and Ennui were fleshed out more and shown how harmful they could be if they go overboard, like Anxiety.
Riley could be scared of embarrassing herself by messing up during practice, thus no longer wanting to do anything that would put her in an uncomfortable situation and losing motivation.
Riley could have felt envious that her friends were going to the same school without her and envious of how good Val is (rather than only admiring her), thus making her want to be better at hockey and make new friends.
Ennui could be Riley giving up- she no longer has interest in hockey after all the stress she is going through
you bring up some great points! although i think at the pace the movie was going it would have been hard to find time to add these scenes
Very well said
@@raptorboss6688remove all the scenes with Joy and the others navigating the mind. It worked in the first movie, but it feels repetitive in the second- good world building, but the locations they visit don’t contribute to the overarching story nor themes like the first movie’s journey did
@@DORAisD34D Remove every scene with them navigating the mind? Then how would we even know what Joy and the rest of the core 5 would be doing?? You want these characters to so desperately have more screentime that your overlooking a crucial part of the story. If anything they would have to make the movie longer to squeeze in these scenes to "flesh them out" more and it would make it quite bloated and would mess with the pacing. I think they work fine for what they did and what they added, even if it's minor, played an important role to several scenes in the film. Sometimes less is more
While I would love to see the other emotions do more things, i don't think its necessary for each emotions to become a big problem for Riley to overcome, people don't feel all emotions equally, and as a result have different problems, for example Riley isnt too embarrassed for it to be a problem for her, but she does feel a lot of anxiety so it becomes an overwhelming emotion and causes problem
When Riley’s belief first said “I’m not good enough” I couldn’t help but cry. It’s such a simple line but it’s basically the line that defined my middle school experience.
Yep, that line - especially how it's delivered - really hurts to hear.
I think what really sunk it in for me, is not only the line, but Anxiety's reaction. She doesn't ignore it, or think it's a motivation. She is actually disappointed and saddened that this didn't work. It's not what she needs to fix Reily. And that is what leads her to go crazy for the final moments. Amazing film
fr. it really encapsulates how i feel even now in college with my parents having super high expectations and my own neurodivergency 😔
Most villans are antagonists, but not all antagonists are villans! This is how to write a good, non-villan antagonist!
YES!!! Thank you!!
That's literally just called a rival....
@@TheDeathmailDude, can you stop? You're entirely arguing semantics, a character can be a rival without being an antagonist just as one can be an antagonist without being a rival, nor an outright villain.
@@TheDeathmail
Why do you need to use 50 periods at the end of every sentence? You sound like you're out of breath.
Gru from despicable me is a villain but he definitely isn’t the antagonist. Just saying!
I wish Fear was kept in the command center. Fear is very much an adjacent emotion to Anxiety and I wish he had been kept as the insider member of the original cast. Perhaps initially agreeing with Anxiety on things and slowly realizing she’s going to crash the ship.
He kind of did admire her in the movie and put her on a pedestal and compared Joy to her initially, but slowly understands that she was going to be Riley's ruin if she wasn't stopped. Though, it would have been a good idea if he stayed with the new emotions, more obviously idolizing Anxiety only left to help Joy and the other main emotions after things started to go south.
Yes exactly! Fear seeing what anxiety sees would've been so cool. There is also that one scene that bothered me a bit, it was when Riley snuck into the coach's office. And anxiety controlled Riley to hide below the door, I know that it still makes sense but idk; To me it felt like she replaced fear for a second there lol 😅
@@equanimity1635 Well, Anxiety is partially derived from fear, if I recall correctly, so it wouldn't be that out-of-character.
@@MoiMademoiselleWorked That was Embarrassment's story arc, of slowly manning up and taking initiative to do the right thing of stopping Anxiety.
My only hope is he and Anxiety will be paired up for their own subplot in the next one. There’s so much to explore between them
Something I love about anxiety is that she is very accurate, in my opinion, about how anxiety can act. I have GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) which causes me to just worry excessively about really anything my brain decides that day. While anxiety isn't a tiny anthropomorphic character inside my head, the rationality and the things anxiety does as a character and to Riley are very very accurate to what it feels like to live with GAD to an extent. I had never felt so seen in a movie before, I actually cried in the theater. I'm glad that this movie brought open and displays anxiety in such a true-to-life way because most of the time in other movies it isn't shown super great.
i have social anxiety (and was a pretty anxious kid growing up), so Anxiety's character in the movie was relateable to me too.
Yeah, I have GAD too as well as panic disorder (basically I get panic and anxiety attacks a lot), so I found this movie incredibly relatable, even more so than the first. It made me cry too-especially Riley’s anxiety attack scene when she’s end the penalty box-fortunately my dad was with me at the cinema because we went to see it for Father’s Day or else that little bit of crying might have turned into sobbing 😅
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fr, the bit where puberty is randomly set off is accurate too. like when i hit puberty it fucking blew up my headquarters for idek how long. atleast until last year or so when i finally got my shit together
I haven’t been diagnosed yet (I should) but the day before going to the theater I had an anxiety attack so while watching the movie I bursted into full tears
Anxiety genuinely believed that all of her actions and plans were what was best for Riley. All of the emotions love Riley dearly. That’s why Anxiety had tears streaming down her eyes when she was frozen to the console, because she realized what she was doing was hurting Riley, but she had already reached a point where she couldn’t stop.
I think Anxiety was very well written as far as her role, character arc, and parallel to Joy in the first movie. I would consider her my favorite Inside Out character, not just because of that, but honestly I don’t think I’ve ever resonated so much with a movie character, let alone an antagonist. It’s a little creepy how similar I am to what’s supposed to be the literal spawn of anxiety lol
I feel the exact same way, it’s shocking to see someone so similar to you on screen. I think that’s a huge reason why I liked this movie so much, I’ve never related to a character so much like anxiety
Her obsession with trying to foresee every possible outcome and analyzing and overthinking every minor detail reminded me a bit too much of myself at times…
@@sentientmustache8360I'm the same way
that's me with embarrasment 😭
I love anxiety more than Joy in this situation
Im not sure if this was intended, or if people already know, but the cool thing i noticed in anxiety hair is it sorta represents multiple paths future can take, they all spring from her head. Which symbolizes how she constantly contemplates different outcomes.
Wow. That's a cool detail.
I did shed a tear when Anxiety cried. It was such a good portrayal of an anxiety attack, it really got to me.
Inside out 2 is my favorite movie,and i think anxiety is a perfect antagonist. She’s written perfectly
I can tell with your name and pfp. I like it.
@@Demonetization_Symbol this is the second time I’ve seen you in a comment section
I can clearly see it from the pfp and name
i’m not gonna lie Your favourite movie? that’s crazy also your favourite pixar movie as well? you have incredibles, ratatouille, and monsters inc and you choose this? okay i guess
@@YoshikageKira33why are you so pressed. I could ask the same of you- out of all the Jojo villains, Kars, Diavolo, Dio, etc but you pick Kira?
The scene of Rilley having the anxiety attack hit very close to home for me. I already had an anxiety attack one night, it prevented me from sleeping and no one took me seriously, I was looking at the ceiling of my room trying to sleep, my chest hurting and I was crying uncontrollably. Aging can be difficult to deal with, especially when you have no one to comfort you. this scene almost made me cry, but I held it together, I really loved that scene, it conveys anxiety perfectly!
hey, i hope you havent had any other attacks lately, but just in case, heres some unsolicited advice:
-if you start feeling funky when youre in your bed, get out and walk around (itll help make it easier to sleep after the attack passes)
-have something sugary like a caramel afterwards, the ickiness goes away faster
-DONT fight it when it happens, you cannot stop it, only ride it out. if you fight it, you risk making it last longer.
-tell someone you know will help you when the funky begins, have them either walk you around or just sit with you. they dont even have to say anything, but having someone there helps even if minimally
ofc, everyone is different but somethings might work for you, and thats better than nothing
@@grammy_hnng Thanks for the advice, that was last year (or the year before, I don't remember) and since then I haven't had any other attacks. Thank you for your concern, that's very kind of you!^-^
why are you still here I wish it took you out tbh
Why is this one of the only videos about Inside Out 2 that DOESNT spend half the video talking about Pixar corporate drama (THANK YOU BTW)
no one seems to be appreciating the movie for the story that it told. Instead, the major narrative is about how it's a bad omen for Pixar's future.
Also, AniMat’s review doesn’t mention the corporate drama of Pixar either.
Victim of timing. Wasn’t there an interview of a Disney/Pixar higher up about how sequels were the way of the future that came out about the same time as the release of Inside Out 2?
@@Nortarachanges It was a bit before it, releasing ahead of the film however the interview's perceived importance has been amplified by Inside Out 2 becoming the animated film that has made $1 billion in the box office the fastest (in 18 days versus the previous record holder's 2).
I'm glad those videos aren't in my algorithm, and I got this one instead from a channel I've never watched.
My favorite way to talk about Anxiety-
She's an antagonist, not a villain
WAIT ANXIETY IS A GIRL??? I THOUGHT SHE WAS A BOY
I like how Anxiety was just like Joy in the first movie
they both want the best for Riley and in doing so, they neglect the other emotions, they think Riley needs them and them only
I also enjoyed the scene where Riley questions how much ideas did they reject, then she realized how much ideas/emotions she rejected during the first movie knowing anxiety is just like her
on a personal note, I broke down in tears when Riley kept saying "I'm a good person"
Thank you for outlining why I think it’s stupid that people have been diagnosing the “problem with Pixar lately” as having no real villain. That’s not an issue in storytelling, and never has been.
The problem is forcing the story to have no real villain. It isn't that BECAUSE they have no real villain it's bad, but it is because they force it.
This story fits exactly what you need to have a misguided character
@@10thletter40 How are they….forcing a story concept to not exist? It’s not a disposition to have a villain? Stories rely on antagonists, not villains.
preach, most stories rely on antagonists.
@@KekerikiGreen Get rid of the ellipses. "How do they force a story concept to not exist" I mean seriously? It's called forcing whatever you write to never have a villain.
And what are you even on about, stories rely on antagonists. Yes, they do. Good job! My point was that not every story and situation is ideal to have no real villain, sometimes it works better than a misguided character or ones own inner battles.@@KekerikiGreen
I think the most fascinating part of Anxiety's character and why she serves as a good antagonist is that she basically acts like how Joy did in the first movie. Too overbearing and too controlling; they never let the other emotions have control over the console and pushed everyone away. They behaved the exact same way and experienced the same consequences - An unheathy mental state for Riley. And I firmly believe that ALL the emotions are capable of becoming like Joy or Anxiety if they have too much control. NONE of them are explicitly bad, they're only bad in excess.
Some of the new emotions in Inside Out 2 get some hate for being primarily negative emotions and not really demonstrating their purpose, but I don't believe that. First of all, the first movie already made the point of how there is no 'bad' emotion. All of them have a purpose, and secondly, I think the fact that we know so little of the new emotions and what they can do served as reinforcement to Anxiety's controlling behaviour. She hogged the console so much that the other emotions no longer got to shine and SHOW why Riley needs them. And I have a couple of theories to what their purpose in Riley's life is.
Embarrassment: I think he's supposed to serve a similar role as sadness, and I may be reading too much into it, but I think that's why they got along in the movie. The display of sadness encourages other people around to act. To empathize, to grieve, to be there for Riley and comfort her. Embarrassment is the opposite. He's there as a signal so people know to give Riley SPACE without being aggressive like say, the dinner table scene in the first movie with Anger. If Riley instead looked embarrassed, then it would've been more clear that they shouldn't push this topic too hard and they would've given her some space and revisit the conversation another time. He serves as a support for Riley's need for personal space and privacy.
Envy: Although it was framed more as admiration, I think the point of Envy is to serve as a form of motivation for Riley. She gives Riley a goal or objective to strive towards by having someone else serve as this model to follow. She's one way for Riley to be pushed towards her ambitions and goals; because she admires this person.
Ennui: She's definitely the oddest one, but I think the point of Ennui is to serve as this baseline emotion that ensures that Riley can continue her day, even with the bare minimum. Think about when she was introduced. She's the last of the new emotions to be introduced and throughout that time, the other emotions were very overwhelmed by the newcomers and none of them knew what to do. That's when Ennui shows up and takes control of the console, making sure Riley responds and is able to function and interact with others. She's there so Riley can still function normally while getting her inner bearings together. She's the steady bar that Riley can hold onto while regaining her balance.
I did have the thought that while the new emotions have lots of negatives due to connotations, I thought about how they also could be beneficial. Anxiety plans for the future, embarrassment subtly shows someone your boundaries, envy can push you to improve to be like those you admire, and ennui helps you to take a chill pill.
Somebody else said other than Joy, Ennui might be the underappreciated MVP of taking care of Riley.
Anxiety was way more pushy, though and way more crazy
@@blackqweenmars that was kind of the point, and it makes sense from a psychological perspective. Anxiety is one of the easiest emotions to spiral out of control, because it preys on our fear of the unknown. Think about it like horror movies, where the monster is always scarier when it's not shown to you, because it means your imagination runs wild and whatever you can come up in your head is always going to be scarier because it's tailor made to your fears. Imagine THAT, but applied to your everyday life.
I believe you have Ennui on point. Ennui only acts when she absolutely has to, but the way she does it is brilliant! Riley loves 'cringeworthy' songs and the others don't know what to do? Ennui can use sarcasm! "Oh yeah, I *love* that song! I *totally enjoyed* myself!" When all the other emotions are bickering on what to tell Riley's parents? Guys just keep it simple! Then we get one of THE MOST teenage responses: a bored 'it was good'.
As someone who has been diagnosed with anxiety, I also want to point out that the film uses a tactic that's VERY helpful in therapy
"We can't control this, but what can we control?"
No seriously, this question really helps when you're stressing out- it's an incredible addition to the film and I was so happy to see it
There’s a quote from Turning Red that I feel sums up this movie perfectly: people have all kinds of sides to them and some sides are messy but the point isn’t to push the bad stuff away it’s to make room for it and live with it
I just watched the movie today, and I did think about parallels with this movie and Turning Red. Puberty making emotions go wild, the 3 best friends relationship (except Mei had 4 people in her friend group), protag ultimately ditches her best friend for really no reason.
But most importantly, locking away feelings for the sake of other people. Mei did it for her family, Riley (Anxiety) did it for the cool kids. And like you said, both wrap up the tension by accepting themselves and their emotions.
One of the things that really sold me on this movie is all the times anxiety put new and harmful thoughts into Riley’s head, and when she plucks the thought string “I’M NOT GOOD ENOUGH” and even she is taken aback by that statement.
If you noticed in the beginning of the movie, Joy was throwing out bad memories and created Riley's naive worldview. Anxiety was influenece by and took it a stepped further with a even more self-centered one. Joy realized when she tried to put it back it didn't work because Riley had discovered a new sense of self when she remembered the bad memories that filpped her morality around into a more sympathic sense of self.
Yeah, exactly! I have a theory that if Joy wasn't cherry-picking Riley's memories to create an ideal version of her, Anxiety wouldn't be able to just... take Riley's sense of self and throw it away 😂
The new one that she gets after accepting lessons from the bad memories is so much more complex. I wonder tho, if she wasn't made to forget the bad memory of receiving a penalty at the start of the movie, would she still crash into her friend? Or would she perhaps know to be more conscious of other players?
I feel people aren't criticising Joy enough - she was setting Riley up for failure by not allowing her to learn from her mistakes, which although not the nicest, is usually the most effective way for people to learn.
“I guess you just feel a little less joy as you grow up.”
God damn it joy why did you say that. This is a kids movie, so why did it hurt me.
The antagonists are not always “villains” they are just doing what they think is right, but it sometimes backfires. Anxiety is a core emotion for practically everyone, especially during everyone’s teen years. I know because I have experienced it myself. There are times where I feel like my anxiety went off the rails, I would always think about things that could go wrong, whether it be me screwing up a choir audition/performance, or failing a test. I tend to overthink the bad scenarios, and how to fix them, but when it approaches, anxiety ultimately causes me to fall apart in the end. There was a time where I had a literal panic attack when I was singing in front of the classroom, I was so nervous I would screw up, and all my worries came true.
Yeah, but an anxiety is important. If I did not have anxiety, I probably would not have cared about anything and I would not be as good as I am
@@blackqweenmars I like how the movie has established these emotions are still significant in other ways
Anxiety to not fail her Spanish exam for example, which motivates her to study.
As a Teenager this movie spoke to me and countless others not only because it’s focused on something we’re familiar to, but it’s focused on something that plagues and hurts people. Anxiety is perfect because it encapsulates a serious issue I and millions of others can relate too. Anxiety is very controlling on your mentality and mental health that it’s caused me to lose the very thing that made me a fun person to be around. I lost my personality after middle school and although I’m sad that I lost my ability to socialize well I’m glad I’ve matured due to my ability to help and guide other people who are lost and confused. I might not ever become that energetic clown I used to be but I’m glad I’ve become a person who can think about others instead of “what’s in it for me”. I love this movie and hope to god they don’t make a 3rd film.
What I love most about inside out in general is that none of the other emotions, except joy, are a "positive" emotion.
We have anger, sadness, fear, disgust, embarassment, envy, Ennui and, most notably, anxiety.
All of these emotions can make the person become an entire wreck if handled wrong. Hell, Riley barely did it twice as we've seen in the movies. But if handled properly right and usually with a bit of joy, you can feel some of the most complicated but yet satisfying emotions.
I mean, think about it, Joy + Anger could be pride, Sadness and Disgust could be remorse, fear and anxiety could be concern and so on.
Most of these emotions don't have to be positive in order to be "positive". Sometimes it's better to let these emotions out of our system and let loose every once in a while, but it is obvious that we need to learn how to control these emotions and accept the part of us that we like or not like, no matter what, it's still you.
It doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be you.
Anxiety is now one of my favorite antagonists. It’s hard to follow up Goldie and Death from Last Wish and Miguel from Across the Spider Verse but the writers for Inside Out 2 managed to make such a perfect antagonist for the movie. Funny mentioning Miguel because Anxiety reminded me a bit of Miguel besides not being a bit of a jerk. Both wanted complete control(Miguel over the lives of spider people and Anxiety over Riley) and thought it was for the greater good and the protagonist Miles and Joy(well at least at the end) know you can’t control the life of someone and people should be able to live their own lives and make their own decisions
Fun etymiology fact:
Both protagonist and antagonist derives from the word 'agon' of Ancient Greek, that was used on greek tragedy to mark a scene where two characters will confront eachother, either physically or verbally. The physical one (that being: direct combat with swords) is where the 'agony' word came from, meaning a situation of pain. However, on classic greek theatre, 'agon' between characters was usually verbal, not fighted. The two main characters in 'agon' would actually argue against eachother's philosophy, not enter in direct combat. That's why the more or less literal translation of 'protagonist' is 'first arguer' ('proto', first) and antagonist, is 'counter-arguer' ('antos', opposite, contrary)
Antagonists and Villains are not mutually exclusive. An example being Death, from puss in boots
Yeah, that's one of the main points of the video
Well Death is on kind of a middle point where he opposes Puss not because he’s evil or disagrees with him but because he really hates him
Well by my understanding, most all villains are Antagonists, as the antagonist is defined by opposition to the protagonist, and thereby most villains are antagonists. The distinction is when an antagonist is not also a villain.
Death isn't a villain imo but yeah.
Jack Horner is both for example
Every square is a rectangle but not every rectangle is a square
One of my favorite scenes with anxiety was when the tree made of the anxiety memory’s said “I’m not good enough” and anxiety was confused and stressed that her plan didn’t create a good mindset. Anxiety can’t plan ahead, it guesses and freaks the fuck out when it doesn’t go right.
I would be lying if I didn’t say I was rooting for anxiety at the start of the movie😭
Oh my that’s too bad
Me too lmao I agreed that Riley's friends were too unserious, especially for the camp. Then she went full dictator mode and I was on nobody's side lol
I agreed with Anxiety's idea that they needed to adapt to this new more complex stage of Riley's life, but she got carried away and wanted to take control.
The theater I saw this in applauded at the end credits, which was very refreshing to hear.
So when you have a panic attack os when your anxiety gets anxiety
uhhhh yeah!
I suffer from extreme ocd and anxiety and was practically balling my eyes out while watching this movie because of how accurately the depicted anxiety and I felt like not only the movie understood those with severe anxiety but also how to cope with it. I highly recommend this movie
to be fair, death IS a villain, not just an antagonist, he isn´t just "doing his job" he is chasing Puss because he sees him as unworthy of his own life
I’m very glad this movie actually made Anxiety the main antagonist and created one unlike the first movie where the conflict was quite literally mental and internal, but here it certainly showed that yes stakes can be raised even within the emotions themselves
So from this angle of analysis, Sadness is the protagonist in the first Inside Out and Joy is the antagonist?
Yeah you could say that because you realize over time Sadness is really important and Joy is not always right about what Riley needs
they were both wrong in different ways
I feel like I’m the first movie there wasn’t really an antagonist as both characters were in the wrong without one being more wrong than the other, and I feel like joy could be described as an antagonistical protagonist
The roles of protagonist and antagonist are not necessarily linked with good guys and bad/less good guys. The protagonist typically is whoever the main character is regardless of moral code.
@@emmet042 so Joy is the protagonist and only held back by her own biases and misconceptions
Infinite loop. The emotions have emotions
I’ve wondered about that. Do the emotions have little headquarters
That’s just the personification
@blackqweenmars yeah, but like if you think of them as people
@@devoofbc sadness is sometimes kinda happy, joy is kinda insane, and uhhhhhhhhhhhh
@@aroramccracken2429 *vsauce music*
That's why Anxiety wasn't a villain. Just an antagonist. Not all antagonists are villains.
Inside Out 2 has such a PERFECT representation of what Anxiety is actually like.
Yeah, they got everything right about the feeling itself.
everyone thinks they themselves are the good guys
We are the heroes on a good side. But what about the villains on the other?
@@Its_me_Stolas Stella Jang?
Tell that to depressed and insecure people😂
Anxiety is an absolutely phenomenal antagonist and you put into words exactly why.
Great video!
I think a spoiler warning would be helpful in the future, though; especially since the movie has only very recently come out. I enjoyed this analysis very much, but do admit I was happy that I'd already seen the movie, as I didn't expect the video to go right into all of the details of the film's conclusion without any warning. Thank you for posting this!
I cried because I felt like I understood, I felt like this was relatable, I felt like I once too cpulsnt control myself because I told myself I was never enough and I will never be. It felt amazing when I watched this, knowing I also once had this feeling and now can understand if someone else has it too. Empathy, sympathy, and even just a moral compass fills me with hope and relief.
Currently i've noticed that Anxiety shares something similar to Lotso from Toy Story 3 that they're in a way how Joy and Woody acted in the first movie. Like how Joy in The first movie acted more as a villain given she tries to excludr Sadness and always prioritizes herself over The other emotions in what she believes to be the only way Riley can be happy, often scratching into toxic positivity. The same way how anxiety literally bottles up the first 5 emotions and believes that their way is now the proper way for Riley to strive in her social life
I also like to mention that Joy grew from the first film. She already let the other emotions including sadness do their jobs and work togethee instead of her doing everything.
But what she had to learn in this movie is that no one is perfect and the flaws and mistakes you make are also part of you.
With Anxiety you also have the moment where the selfimage she finishes says "i'm not good enough" causing Anxiety to get confused because it's not at all what she was going for but yeah like you said she still keeps going with her plan because her and Envy become extremely paranoid that life starts feeling more like survival than living.
id like to be clear because a lot of people seem to think death from the last wish isnt a villain, he 100% IS. he isnt doing his job, hes actively trying to kill puss because puss didnt live his life the way death thinks he should. he wasnt doling out justice, he wasnt doing his job, he was trying to kill someone who ostensibly helped people just because he wasnt living his life to the fullest. he was a villain. yes, he stopped, but only once puss had changed, and he was UPSET that puss had changed because it meant he couldnt defeat him, hes mad at himself for giving puss the chance to change because it means he didnt get to kill him
The panic attack scene was top notch. Especially with Anxiety being the cherry on top
The emotion of anxiety is a perfect way to explain this antagonist cocnept too, us feeling anxiety is our brain trying to help us but in practice can actually do more harm
7:38 "A little tery eyed" BRO 💀I was full on sobbing and shaking lmao
One thing i adore about Anxiety's design is that she resembles the mushroom cloud of a nuclear explosion. It's absolutely perfect as it represents how someone's anxiety, no matter how hard they try to control it, is always at risk of exploding and overwhelming them.
i love Anxiety sm for this exact reason. She just wants the best for Riley and i felt so bad for her as she had her own panic attack
The entire time Anxiety was onscreen in this movie, all I could think about was how good of an antagonist she is because she’s doing the same thing as the other emotions- trying to protect Riley- but going about it in all the wrong ways (sometimes even coming off as sinister and when that happened I had CHILLS) and it was super relatable too since she is a representation of anxiety after all
I was so fckn angry at anxiety in theaters because I was like this is totally wrong but I was angry because I knew anxiety had good intentions.
7:45 I cried my eyes out. I feel like the second movie would hit harder for teens and adults who have those insecurities or any kind of second thoughts about themselves. Like I think I’m good for the most part, but seeing that part felt like something deep inside me was going on that I’m not aware of
So our brains are the protagonist and antagonist to our own lives
Fr tho it is that when we grow up it kinda destroyes us for a bit until we get used to it
an antigonist is a character or FORCE that acts against the protagonist
Yes and she definitely was that.
@@redram6080I think their comment is about how badly they defined villain antagonist and protagonist They acted like you can't be a villain and an antagonist. Villains, unless in a very weird story where villains are the protagonist are antagonists
She's doing the only thing she can and it's up to the stablished characters to find out how to properly respond to it for Riley's sake. No villain, perfect antagonist. She's even a great foil for the protagonist because she's not gloomy and introspective like sadness was in 1, personality wise you almost get a sense she would be bffs with Joy if only they weren't supposed to share Riley's mind's cockpit.
I think what makes the movie even better is that anxiety does exactly what Joy did in the first movie
This movie honestly was a good one, I definitely teared up watching it and yeah, i say they did a good job especially displaying, well, anxiety
"I don't really like villains. ... Nobody goes to sleep thinking 'How can I do evil tomorrow? MWAHAHAHA!'"
- Pete Docter, 'The Many Endings of Muntz' from Up's DVD bonus features
i realized joy is double jointed
I find it incredible that this movie managed to portray Anxiety in such an interesting and compelling light. Even just as a character, without her part in the story, I love Anxiety cuz she’s relatable, funny, and quirky. Just a jittery lil gal. All of the emotions have fun quirks to them, which allows the audience to like them even though some are not so positive emotions. I imagine that’s not an easy thing to do writing-wise
My hopes for this movie were embarrassingly low but I loved it so much. Anxiety is literally the most relatable character I've ever seen on screen which reminded me to take my meds
The thing is that Anxiety isn't wrong. It's not wrong to want to do well in camp to try and make it to the FireHawks. We see this when Riley is up early training. Because of Anxiety, Riley is able to get a lot better. The problem is that too much Anxiety leads to always trying to do better, which doesn't feel good to you and doesn't get you the results you expect. It's similar to Joy in the first movie.
let's face it if rillie could talk to her brain emotions...she would've told them to put anxiety into the jar...., a reminder she started as embarrassment
Villains are antagonists
But not all antagonists are villains
Nothing will make me cry like Toy Story 3, but I might have to check this film out.
ngl she made a good accidental antagonist
Is this entire movie(s) just a metaphor for the phrase “don’t let your emotions control you”?
“Evolution, can I have anxiety?”
“To create rational outcomes for circumstances with no clear end?”
“Yessss”
*becomes afraid of nothing*
Just shows how Pixar knows how to create a good antagonist and I really felt for Riley even though what she did to Bree and Grace was wrong but she's lucky to have them given she helped Grace when she was laughed at during the flashback near the start of the movie and that's true friendship when they forgave her.
love inside out 2 for a good come back for its legit sequel
when Anxiety shed that one tear, it litterly was so heartbreaking, i really felt the emotions...emotions lol
I keep finding these channels with videos that you'd expect to have like 100k subs, honestly dude keep up the good work, you deserve 100k
Well, a villain at its core is an antagonist or at least it's a type of antagonist. A character can be a villain and an antagonist. for example Death in PIBTLW is a villain. He goes out of his way to try and kill Puss who didn't lose his last life. He's actively tormenting him throughout the movie. He isn't just "doing his job" he's going out of his way to try and kill Puss. But at the same time he's also a direct antagonist to Puss as he represents Puss' fears and insecurities and is directly in opposition to Puss. An antagonist is a character who's goals and motives conflict with the protagonists which leads to conflict. So someone like Darth Vader is an antagonist, Davy Jones is an antagonist, Jafar is an antagonist, etc.
6:18 so basically anxiety’s anxiety is giving anxiety to Riley… 😂
I'm surprised in bringing up Puss in Boots there wasn't the comparison of the anxiety attacks. I like how both handle it accurately but from the different "perspectives." I honestly think this movie has helped me view emotions in a more healthy manner as much as the first one did, seeing my anxiety less like a "disorder" I need to "fix" as something that is genuinely important (planning for the future) that sometimes gets out of control. It's not inherently bad any more than being sad or angry is. Sometimes you're sad because you need to emotionally process a difficult loss. Sometimes you're angry because the situation you're in is genuinely unfair and you need to do something about it. And sometimes you're anxious because the future is uncertain and you need to consider how your choices will impact it.
It's scary, absolutely. But that's life. I take deep breaths, counting to 4. Learned that one from the Owl House. When I lock up, I try to focus on the next thing I want to do right now. I learned that from Steven Universe. When I spin up a thousand worst case scenarios in my head and can't sleep, I try to think about ways in which things could actually go great instead since that's easier than stopping the energy that anxiety filled me with, just redirecting it. I learned that one from my therapist at 26. I'm glad kids will watch this movie. Because sorry kids, _Anxiety isn't going anywhere._ The future will not be easy.
Villain: them vs the world.
Antagonist: them vs the protagonist.
This is 1000x better than The Last Wish and Spider-Verse.
My fav villain in the MCU is Aida from Agents of SHIELD. She’s so underrated. Aida wanted to make a world sim who had the every character’s wants. But turns out what they wanted wasn’t good. It made some of them evil.
I like writing mental turmoil and making the antagonist and protagonist the same person
The first four minutes are you just repeatedly saying “Anxiety wants something that opposes Joy”
This feels like you’re trying to stretch a simple, shallow idea into 10 minutes. And some of this isn’t even coherent or true. And antagonist CAN be a villain, but doesn’t have to be, and vice versa. Did you even have an actual essay when you wrote this, or are you just rambling out of your ass? Did you research? Did you review your script before you sat down and recorded this mess? And the images don’t even correspond with what you’re talking about, they’re just the same scenes with little variation.
It’s good that you made something, but at least put actual effort into it.
Spoilers: I shed tears twice during that film, first when joy comes to the conclusion/realisation, that when one grows older one expiriencses less joy, sheesh that hurt, and the seconds time was during the anxiety attack that you spoke about, and how real it felt (i have and anxiety disorder and chronical anxiety attack issues), especially the fact that Anxiety herdelf was just too scared to let go because she knows how much she messed things up and how she herself was having an anxiety attack then and there uff so good so personal
"Anxiety's anxiety"
i watched the movie yesterday, and, to be honest, its kinda good.
now, by "kinda good", i mean "its a mid movie, but more to the 'good mid' rather than 'bad mid'", pretty much because the plot was quite predictable, that being (not to spoil it too much) the little tree thing that makes Riley (well, Riley) ending up being neither the original thingy nor the one anxiety created.
with that aside it reminds me alot about myself (im a teenager, btw), which i think is the point of the movie.
how would i rate it? probably 8.4/10
so SO glad pixar is back on track! I was so scared this movies was gonna be written like ass but I was pleasantly proven wrong
In simplicity I honestly think the best kind of antagonist is an antagonist that embodies something not necessarily evil but is still a problem for the protagonist. I think this video touched on that very well at least by my understanding.
Will watch this after i see the film on streaming
Anxiety does not just stand out.. the other new emotions are completely forgettable
I won't lie, I was one of the people who was brought to tears in that scene. But it was moreso because of how relatable the actual anxiety attack was for me. The thoughts all going through Riley's head and the heartbeat and blurry vision. It was a great depiction of an irl anxiety attack, and hit very close to home for me, as I have them myself. I'm very happy this movie turned out good. Pixar honestly needed a win after so many failed sequels in a row, and I'm glad this was the series to do it. Now let's just HOPE AND PRAY they don't make a three...
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Ngl, this might be one of the very few movies in which I wouldn't mind a third movie.
@@yeeyeeyeeye where Riley becomes an adult and then remembers bing bong saying "take her to the moon for me, ok?". It would be so epic if she actually went to the moon
You could see Anxiety genuinely admired Joy aswell.
Maybe this is me reading too much into the movie but I think, of all the new emotions Riley gets as part of puberty, Anxiety is given the largest role because right now audiences across the US (and possibly around the world) are experiencing so much Anxiety of their own. This is a character we can all relate to and understand at this current moment. And part of the story is some Anxiety is good but we should not let it run our lives
I have a theory that if Joy wasn't cherry-picking Riley's memories to create an ideal version of her, Anxiety wouldn't be able to just... take Riley's sense of self and throw it away. The new one that she gets after accepting lessons from the bad memories is so much more complex!
And I wonder, if Riley wasn't made to forget the bad memory of receiving a penalty at the start of the movie, would she still crash into her friend? Or would she perhaps know to be more conscious of other players?
I feel like people aren't criticising Joy enough. She was basically setting Riley up for failure by not allowing her to learn from her mistakes, which - although not the most comfortable - is typically the most effective way for people to learn and grow.
Gonna watch this movie tomorrow, which is in like six minutes.
You know you have a good antagonist when they can be described as a protagonist in their own story.
I feel while we love a good pure evil or characters unapologetically evil such as The High Evolutionary (GOTG3), Emperor Belos (TOH), Big Jack Horner (The Last Wish), etcetera we also need a good antagonist too.
The reason why Inside Out is effective is that there's no real bad guy. It's also experiences and feelings. If Inside Out had your typical good vs evil setting it wouldn't make much sense. After all Inside Out is the most morally complex story franchise in Pixar because there's no good or evil. It's just a bunch of emotions and dealing with changes in life inside a teenager living. Joy and Anxiety are foils and the story simply depicts Anxiety as a perfect antagonist and foil to Joy had she never gave the emotions or overprotected Riley.
Like Joy Anxiety supports Riley, but unlike Joy she is unable to accept the emotions and not aware it caused Riley a panic attack. While Joy has a point Anxiety is unable to prioritize Riley and becoming a control freak, can you really blame Anxiety for existing in Riley's life. For she is Anxiety itself and she wants to make sure Riley lives an enjoyable life. Near the end, both of them were right but both of them were wrong. Riley is Riley and she is herself. She cannot simply be controlled if she cannot grow. I know we want to see a villain in our stories, but it's nice that some stories need an antagonist at the end of the day.
P.S: Love the movie and one of Pixar's best sequels to date. Also, I like how Anxiety wasn't the bad guy, she was just a well intened person trying to help Riley growing up. But she wasn't the best for Riley's well being if she used Anxiety too much.
Antagonists are anyone who opposes the hero's goals. Whether they are good or bad is irrelevant every villain of a story is an antagonist but not every antagonist is a hero.
I think what makes the story is always dependent on the type of character you want to create.