Its also a complex area of your body. Lower weight high reps for shoulders is best to prevent injury. Last place I want an injury is my shoulder, basically will make you stop doing upper body until its healed
@@ronniethepope I can tell you either are new to the gym or never pushed yourself in the gym before lol. You shoulder is quite literally the most prone place on your body to be injured in the gym
60’s for lateral raises is pretty insane… I wish he showed his form and how many reps… My shoulders are pretty strong and I do sets of 15-20 with 30lb DB’s with good form and even a slight pause at the top at the beginning of the set before my shoulders are cooked lol… if he’s doing 10-15 strict reps per set w/ 60’s I’m absolutely humbled lol
The fit is so boxy, he would look absolutely godlike with something that fit him better (ik it's workout clothes but still, so much wasted potential)@@Malakai468
I feel shoulders are the most vulnerable part of our body and are always ready to get injured. I like to go with safe weights with my lateral raises and still my shoulders are highlighted parts of my body.
Very smart, a torn rotator cuff will ruin your life. I know a guy that would ego lift shoulders with massive weight and now can’t even hold his arms above his head
I will say tho you should try leaning into the lateral raise you take like 30 Degress of no tension out of the raise and get way more stretch toward the end of the lift motion works to get just that much more out of the raise
Cant do that 2 at a time. Do you mean lean into the raise or away from it? You want tension in the stretched portion of lift more than the contracted, so you lean away from the shoulder youre hitting to put tension on that bottom 30 degrees where the delt is stretched
@@rockyevans1584 lean into the bench, you don’t need to do both together you can do one arm and the other like you would with 1 arm rows so that’s not really a disadvantage or disqualifies the style of lifting it quite literally means you have to put more effort into the concentric portion of the lift , the eccentric is more or less the same unless you do a paused lift but this isn’t really necessary for side lat raises and a waste of energy
@tylersharp5751 you don't need to do bilateral work, but unilateral work takes more time regardless, thats a big factor. I was just asking which way you were leaning, as it was common up until recently for people to lean the other way, reducing tension in the lengthened position. It doesn't mean you have to put more effort into the concentric lol, it just improves the resistance curve for hypertrophy. Agreed on the pause, that tends to work best on big compound lifts.
One thing i personally like doing for my lateral raises is doing one and a half reps. So I'll grab a lighter weight and go up all the way, down half way, and then back up and then thats one rep. Ive found that helped keep me from swinging the weights and as i got fatigued i could go back to regular reps but I'll bring the weight down slowly to focus on the eccentric portion of the lift
I don’t go too extreme on them and it works so good for me. You want it to be the perfect weight. Not too easy but heavy enough you’re pushing yourself. Controlling it all the way is what matters.
Sams admitted to being an ego lifter, and this proves him right... weight is absolutely a factor 1000%. Delts, no matter how big they are, are still small muscle compared to the bicep and tricep working together. This means that if you go heavier, then the delts can lift the bicep and tricep take over and delt are only working at about 75% instead of 100%
@@burkus4033size doesn't "only" come from lifting heavy tho. Factors like genetics, are you natural or not, how are your muscle insertions(that's covered in genetics ehh?), etc matter too. That being said, a proper form will take your physique from point A to B very efficiently "minimising" the risk of injury. Side note: 9 times out of 10, a person who can curl 60lbs(for example) with strict form, with the exception of a few cheat reps towards the end of the set, will have bigger biceps than a guy who has garbage form but still can curl the same weight.
The deltoids are the largest muscle in the upper body and you shouldn’t feel your bicep nor tricep on lateral raises in any type of variation: cables, machine, and or dumbbells
Yeah if you're lifting to get bigger muscles, you want big range of motion controlled slow lifting especially the ecentrix which means less weight/reps than if you were to "cheat" to do as much weight and reps as possible
1) delts are a larger muscle group than both biceps and triceps, they are not a small muscle by any definition 2)a bicep and tricep will never get engaged in a lateral raise to any meaningful degree, you saying that shows you have no idea what the biceps and triceps do.
What is actually good for developing each part of the delts, which on average is no bigger than a fish-stick (and that's why you don't need to go heavy), is to go down very slowly on the excentric phase and even stopping a few times before full retraction. It has worked out great for me at least, if you got some good shoulder-hack then feel free to reply here - because too many ppl be training shoulders wrong
Exactly how I train an well, on the cable, slightly leaning, raising my arm to the max while bringing it down slowly. I do a dropset and go from 3 plates to 1 (machine plates).
I found that intensity with strict form, slowly lowering the weight their too and grinding, not necessarily with elbow higher than the thumb, just as long as the elbow aligns with the hands. That provided me the best growth on my shoulders
Legit reps = arms up to 90⁰ with minimal bend in elbows and no bending or swinging at the waist. So whatever weight that allows you to do anywhere from 6 to 20 "legit reps" without form breakdown, and then you can do low range partials at the bottom like John Meadows for up to 30 for the burnnnnnn 🔥
I think you could do it bro lol if you lateral raise that. Do 3 sets of face pulls. Then go to the bench warm up with the bar. Then 135 3 times. 185 once. 205 once. Then get real mad and do that 225. Take like 3 minutes between every set.
60s?🤯wtf I do super sets of 10 side and 10 front raises using 8kg/18lb and I’m wrecked after 4 super sets. But I’m 68kgs/150lbs and only been training 2 months, so I can safely say I will never ever be able to do 60lbs. I would be surprised if I am ever able to do 1 half decent two with that weight
Theoretically everything is fine, but he lets go at the end and his back and shoulders drop with every push, you should be quite tight and braced. I can't see his arms but I think they're at a correct angle
Given my left shoulder has a torn rotator cuff and arthritis in my ac joint it’s a lot harder with lateral raises. Figure I’ll just do band exercises and low volume with high reps until they’re strengthened enough do higher volume in the 7 rep range.
I train back and shoulder on the same day so I’ll do lat pull down and go into front and side raises with 15lb bumbells 10 each exercise for a super set
Damn 60kg is insane. The max I did fof 2 months of shoulder training(2 times per wekk) was 30kg. Now i stick with 20kg on last set although I can still lateral 30kg
What’s the next way to lateral raise unilaterally? I have a big imbalance between the two but I feel like doing lateral raises unilaterally, there’s a little more momentum with the movement naturally
All of your lateral raising could be done on accident or as a consequence of your carrying. Pressing however, now that, like squatting has almost no replacement.
@@rockyevans1584 No but supersetting laterally raising your fucking shoulder while you’re carrying shit. Is not exactly accidental. Go for a walk with a couple of propane tanks and tell me your delts aren’t lit the fuck up.
@@clevernamehere7559 no, it wouldn't be. Farmers walks will hit your traps, good for forearms and calves too but will leave you with pencilneck level lateral delts
@@rockyevans1584 Alright bro an empty cylinder weighs twenty and a full one weighs fourty. They wreck my delts. I have to walk to the store to fill them so maybe that’s why it works my shoulders a lot.
@@clevernamehere7559 traps for sure, not sure how it would be hitting your delts, maybe in a similar way to traps albeit with less of a stretch. Whatever gets ya growing bro, we are all different for sure
I mean it just depends how strong your deltoids are lmao, I lat raise 40lb and yes it sounds very heavy but I train them like every other muscle with progressive overload and overtime you'll get strong enough
Legit reps in what rep range. I don't think my shoulders grow anymore. I'm too old. I'm held together with cadaver tendons. Don't get old kids. It's for the birds
Bro lateral raised 4 toddlers at the same time
😭😭
A whole ass 8 year old
Weird you measure weight in toddlers, but ok.
@@christophercostello696Its a joke bud
Damn bro, that's like a whole load of groceries!
"okay I lied. God damnit. " Every time..
😂
601
At least he admitted it lol
Jesus loves you ❤❤❤❤
No point in saying Lords name in vain just for a comment
I had pretty great shoulders back in the day and I did 30s tops. You get so much work without very much much weight on lateral raises.
Its also a complex area of your body. Lower weight high reps for shoulders is best to prevent injury. Last place I want an injury is my shoulder, basically will make you stop doing upper body until its healed
@@SupChad735True also doing mobility exercises helps your range of motion, and giving you more flexibility gives you bulletproof shoulders.
Yeap
@@SupChad735if you get injured doing lateral raises just quit the gym or drink more milk
@@ronniethepope I can tell you either are new to the gym or never pushed yourself in the gym before lol. You shoulder is quite literally the most prone place on your body to be injured in the gym
60’s for lateral raises is pretty insane… I wish he showed his form and how many reps… My shoulders are pretty strong and I do sets of 15-20 with 30lb DB’s with good form and even a slight pause at the top at the beginning of the set before my shoulders are cooked lol… if he’s doing 10-15 strict reps per set w/ 60’s I’m absolutely humbled lol
No way hes doing it with perfect doen tho, in doing 22kg moe for 8/9 reps, decent form nog percect. My shoulders dong lie tho
Right
I do 30s as well and I’m considered one of stronger shouldered people at my gym, safe to say Sulek is a beast!
I do 20kg idk what that is in lbs
@@joshmurphy922644lbs. That's quite a bit to be lateral raising, good on you 💪
That t-shirt is definitely giving him a hard time
Ummmmm what 💀😂
The fit is so boxy, he would look absolutely godlike with something that fit him better
(ik it's workout clothes but still, so much wasted potential)@@Malakai468
60’s for Lateral Raises !!
I bow down to the Supreme Sam
Jesus is king
That kid in the back is probably going ham just knowing sam is right there
I feel shoulders are the most vulnerable part of our body and are always ready to get injured. I like to go with safe weights with my lateral raises and still my shoulders are highlighted parts of my body.
Very smart, a torn rotator cuff will ruin your life. I know a guy that would ego lift shoulders with massive weight and now can’t even hold his arms above his head
Labrum tear early on in puberty totally fucked me. Aggravated asymmetrical muscle inflammation Changes your entire skeleton for the worse
Starting heavy then dropping weight each set is such a must when training delts
Pain is the number one factor for me
I will say tho you should try leaning into the lateral raise you take like 30 Degress of no tension out of the raise and get way more stretch toward the end of the lift motion works to get just that much more out of the raise
Cant do that 2 at a time. Do you mean lean into the raise or away from it? You want tension in the stretched portion of lift more than the contracted, so you lean away from the shoulder youre hitting to put tension on that bottom 30 degrees where the delt is stretched
Ok Jeff Nippard
@@serop43 you jelly of nipplehard?
@@rockyevans1584 lean into the bench, you don’t need to do both together you can do one arm and the other like you would with 1 arm rows so that’s not really a disadvantage or disqualifies the style of lifting it quite literally means you have to put more effort into the concentric portion of the lift , the eccentric is more or less the same unless you do a paused lift but this isn’t really necessary for side lat raises and a waste of energy
@tylersharp5751 you don't need to do bilateral work, but unilateral work takes more time regardless, thats a big factor. I was just asking which way you were leaning, as it was common up until recently for people to lean the other way, reducing tension in the lengthened position. It doesn't mean you have to put more effort into the concentric lol, it just improves the resistance curve for hypertrophy. Agreed on the pause, that tends to work best on big compound lifts.
bro can lateral raise my max leg press
You need more food
are u disabled?
One thing i personally like doing for my lateral raises is doing one and a half reps. So I'll grab a lighter weight and go up all the way, down half way, and then back up and then thats one rep. Ive found that helped keep me from swinging the weights and as i got fatigued i could go back to regular reps but I'll bring the weight down slowly to focus on the eccentric portion of the lift
I don’t go too extreme on them and it works so good for me. You want it to be the perfect weight. Not too easy but heavy enough you’re pushing yourself. Controlling it all the way is what matters.
Bro lifting me from both hands for f*kin 5 sets.
As a new lifter, lat raises are the hardest lifts by far
I will say...im blown away by the amount of volume shoulders take...wow
Sams admitted to being an ego lifter, and this proves him right... weight is absolutely a factor 1000%. Delts, no matter how big they are, are still small muscle compared to the bicep and tricep working together. This means that if you go heavier, then the delts can lift the bicep and tricep take over and delt are only working at about 75% instead of 100%
How do your delts compare to his?
@@burkus4033size doesn't "only" come from lifting heavy tho.
Factors like genetics, are you natural or not, how are your muscle insertions(that's covered in genetics ehh?), etc matter too.
That being said, a proper form will take your physique from point A to B very efficiently "minimising" the risk of injury.
Side note: 9 times out of 10, a person who can curl 60lbs(for example) with strict form, with the exception of a few cheat reps towards the end of the set, will have bigger biceps than a guy who has garbage form but still can curl the same weight.
The deltoids are the largest muscle in the upper body and you shouldn’t feel your bicep nor tricep on lateral raises in any type of variation: cables, machine, and or dumbbells
Yeah if you're lifting to get bigger muscles, you want big range of motion controlled slow lifting especially the ecentrix which means less weight/reps than if you were to "cheat" to do as much weight and reps as possible
1) delts are a larger muscle group than both biceps and triceps, they are not a small muscle by any definition
2)a bicep and tricep will never get engaged in a lateral raise to any meaningful degree, you saying that shows you have no idea what the biceps and triceps do.
At least bro is honest
Ron Weasley and his grandfather in the background putting in work on the 10lbs lol
What is actually good for developing each part of the delts, which on average is no bigger than a fish-stick (and that's why you don't need to go heavy), is to go down very slowly on the excentric phase and even stopping a few times before full retraction.
It has worked out great for me at least, if you got some good shoulder-hack then feel free to reply here - because too many ppl be training shoulders wrong
Exactly how I train an well, on the cable, slightly leaning, raising my arm to the max while bringing it down slowly. I do a dropset and go from 3 plates to 1 (machine plates).
Drop sets worked wonders for me while not destroying my shoulders/arms using 40's and beyond
sixties is wild
I literally use 8kg dumbells for lat raises. 5 sets of 20, delts are about as round as round gets lol. Definitely works on super light weight!!
Bro lateral raises my shoulder press 💀
I found that intensity with strict form, slowly lowering the weight their too and grinding, not necessarily with elbow higher than the thumb, just as long as the elbow aligns with the hands.
That provided me the best growth on my shoulders
Shoulders are endurance muscles so try double digit reps
The form is much more crucial than weight on pretty much every exercise. Get the form right and only then increase
lateral raising my dumbbell bench
He kinda looks like Baki.
Baki is a lot smaller and leaner than Sam.
I need to see this man do like javelin and shot-put
Rm 15 reps at 12lbs am I cooked ?
Nah, just do 15s for as much as you can then drop set 12lbs it’ll go up trust
No matter what weight your at its okay what matter is you improve
yeah
I do 30's but struggle a little. I can comfortably do 20/25.
Damn, 60s are insane. Double what I can do for reps.
Legit reps = arms up to 90⁰ with minimal bend in elbows and no bending or swinging at the waist. So whatever weight that allows you to do anywhere from 6 to 20 "legit reps" without form breakdown, and then you can do low range partials at the bottom like John Meadows for up to 30 for the burnnnnnn 🔥
Felt this cuz I’m tired of damaging my shoulders lol
This is the only lift I can come anywhere close to Sam on. Can get 50’s for a few reps (…but can’t bench 225🙈😫)
Ur using momentum. Ur not near close to him kid
I think you could do it bro lol if you lateral raise that. Do 3 sets of face pulls. Then go to the bench warm up with the bar. Then 135 3 times. 185 once. 205 once. Then get real mad and do that 225. Take like 3 minutes between every set.
You ain't raising 55s if you can't bench 225. Not a fucking chance.
@@mcgruberfr, lateral raising 55s is like very very elite, and benching 225 isnt too difficult with a few months to a year of training
@@ye-jf3vl okay son go back to bed
Bro is going to be doing daisy raises soon enough
I go crazy light but I’m also old this would just scare me to try 😂
"no swinging" coming from Sam is ironic
60s?🤯wtf
I do super sets of 10 side and 10 front raises using 8kg/18lb and I’m wrecked after 4 super sets. But I’m 68kgs/150lbs and only been training 2 months, so I can safely say I will never ever be able to do 60lbs. I would be surprised if I am ever able to do 1 half decent two with that weight
The kid doing triceps press downs in the background,is that form correct ?
Theoretically everything is fine, but he lets go at the end and his back and shoulders drop with every push, you should be quite tight and braced. I can't see his arms but I think they're at a correct angle
Given my left shoulder has a torn rotator cuff and arthritis in my ac joint it’s a lot harder with lateral raises. Figure I’ll just do band exercises and low volume with high reps until they’re strengthened enough do higher volume in the 7 rep range.
Jesus 60?! I’m hitting 8-12 reps with 30’s on a GOOD day, and I’m a strong dude.
He lateral raises my body weight 😭
You weigh 60 lbs, you’re cooked
I use 55lbs but I got a 6’9” wingspan so a bit of a leverage issue
My new lateral raise weight is 18 with good form i feel like that kinda okay
(Me over here lifting 15-20lb watching him lateral raise over my max bicep curl)😀😨😢
15-20lbs , no swinging more if you can carry it
Legit reps, then when you can’t do any more start swinging, good pt it’s called blasting or “go until failure” aka blasting.
60s is crazy 😂
i use 30lbs at a lean 5’11 150lbs. not trying to get huge at all but delts have been my main focus for an aesthetic physique
I’m 13 and I lateral raise 35 pounds for 8 reps is that good?
As heavy as you can without using your traps
I do 60s as a warm up then increase it
Must hate being in the gym when he’s there
11 lbs, 2 sets of 15 very slow reps especially on the concentric... And I am fucking pooped..
No swinging!
*bro swinging*
I train back and shoulder on the same day so I’ll do lat pull down and go into front and side raises with 15lb bumbells 10 each exercise for a super set
60s for lateral raises and REPS is insane…
Bro is doing 60s while i can barely get 10s for my lateral raises for like 8 reps tbh😭😭
60 kgs for lateral raise? Thats my max bench😭😭
60 lbs not kgs
About as high as the gear will let me
Damn 60kg is insane. The max I did fof 2 months of shoulder training(2 times per wekk) was 30kg. Now i stick with 20kg on last set although I can still lateral 30kg
He's doing 60 lbs. No way any human could handle 60 kgs
Better go for 100% isolation. Weight is totally not important and it gives a higher risk for injuries...
I was proud of myself for using 20 pounds for 12 reps and saw this💔
Rich Jr🤣🤣🤣
As heavy as you can go without dipping your chin and using your back, slow controlled movements
55lbs lateral raises wtf 💀💀, I can't even do 22lbs 💀
You can't even go heavy on lateral raises IF you really want to target the fiber's that make the movement.
Is that Skyler training in the backround
No skyler would be doing something heinous so it can’t be him
Bro lateral raise twice my incline db bench
Him talking about not going heavy with shitty form is ironic
I do 30kg on the cables (2 pivots) as top set don't see anyone go that heavy so I probably shouldn't but I also get legit reps so fuck it we ball
Go as kuch as you can, and then reduce weight as you do the max reps at each weight drop
What’s the next way to lateral raise unilaterally? I have a big imbalance between the two but I feel like doing lateral raises unilaterally, there’s a little more momentum with the movement naturally
I do 10lbs 100 times 3 sets
60......................... i would have died.
27kg
Meanwhile, im happy i can do 25s ☠️😂😂😂
Bro is lateral raising what I curl.
Be careful going heavy with these. Even if you think your form is good it's so easy to throw out your back
cable lateral raises are twice as hard
Bingo. Weight is not the factor in shoulder building. Reps up to or close to failure is much better. John Meadows preached the same thing.
Biceps dumbells curl....40 kgs with swing
Just 25 kgs without swing😂
60s? geezus, sam lol
Jesus I only do 25
60s? Im over here getting a good slow controlled 5 reps of 30s. Geez
no swinging and swung on the eccentric cmon sam boss
I can do the 50s and I'm only 175 at 6 foot tall
Bruh with a bad shoulder im lateral raising 2.5lbs. Trust me you wont look as dumb as I do in the gym doing 2.5 lbs raises
All of your lateral raising could be done on accident or as a consequence of your carrying.
Pressing however, now that, like squatting has almost no replacement.
Nothing hits your lateral delts by accident bro.
@@rockyevans1584 No but supersetting laterally raising your fucking shoulder while you’re carrying shit. Is not exactly accidental.
Go for a walk with a couple of propane tanks and tell me your delts aren’t lit the fuck up.
@@clevernamehere7559 no, it wouldn't be. Farmers walks will hit your traps, good for forearms and calves too but will leave you with pencilneck level lateral delts
@@rockyevans1584 Alright bro an empty cylinder weighs twenty and a full one weighs fourty. They wreck my delts. I have to walk to the store to fill them so maybe that’s why it works my shoulders a lot.
@@clevernamehere7559 traps for sure, not sure how it would be hitting your delts, maybe in a similar way to traps albeit with less of a stretch. Whatever gets ya growing bro, we are all different for sure
He's going to get tired of eating
Damn bruh i do a bit more than half 💀 those who train know 60s is a fuck ton
See Seth Feroce for a how to video on lateral raises NOT Sam what's his name 😂😂😂
why do u ask young bud about gym advice? ask old gym that same size - he knows what he is doing fo real.
60 lbs or kilos cuz lateral 60ks are wild but not really for sam
That is wayyy too heavy, i dont care how strong you think you are
bro that's sam sulek
@@xxkillergamesxx6759 ok and?
I mean it just depends how strong your deltoids are lmao, I lat raise 40lb and yes it sounds very heavy but I train them like every other muscle with progressive overload and overtime you'll get strong enough
@@mightymoeishAnd iirc he actually lat raise it properly.
@@sosagainzproblem is you heavier than delts can lift. And bicep and tri take over and traps .
Legit reps in what rep range. I don't think my shoulders grow anymore. I'm too old. I'm held together with cadaver tendons. Don't get old kids. It's for the birds
I lied