Top 4 OVERRATED Exercises (Do These Instead!)

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  • Stop wasting time on overrated and ineffective exercises. Learn about four exercises you should avoid and what you should do instead to maximize your gains!
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  • @walter7454
    @walter7454 25 дней назад +7760

    Good old times when standing dumbbell rotations were meta before gravity was invented

    • @BaronLaneKing
      @BaronLaneKing 25 дней назад +11

      Hahahaha

    • @DollaSignD
      @DollaSignD 25 дней назад +40

      yea there's literally no point in doing those 😂😂

    • @drblitzkreig
      @drblitzkreig 25 дней назад +54

      There is point, it’s the momentum of dumbbell which is resisted by rotator cuffs. Everything this guy says isn’t holy grail.

    • @walter7454
      @walter7454 25 дней назад +92

      @@drblitzkreig That may be true but it's so inefficient and potentially counter productive because of the front delt taxing that there is no point. Grabbing a cable or a band is always better. Or do the dumbbell version with your elbow on your knee, you know, proper gravity and resistance

    • @ibraheemkhan6660
      @ibraheemkhan6660 25 дней назад +12

      @@walter7454the momentum created back and forth is good for warming up both rotator cuffs, it’s true that the absence of gravity makes it no more than a warmup
      But it is a warmup

  • @thedutchie94
    @thedutchie94 25 дней назад +3993

    I may be dumb. But I'll never be that guy who's standing in the corner of a gym waving a dumbell left to right.

    • @aboveaura4817
      @aboveaura4817 25 дней назад +263

      Youd be surprised how easily the cancer spreads. I used to do em from time to time cuz i always saw other dudes warming up like that 🤦

    • @Izaiah3333
      @Izaiah3333 25 дней назад +57

      You sound insecure and you said it dumb 😭

    • @AtlasZero13
      @AtlasZero13 25 дней назад +7

      I see them all the time

    • @rianfitt
      @rianfitt 25 дней назад +4

      **Gravity** enters the convo😂

    • @-Jozef
      @-Jozef 25 дней назад +57

      @@Izaiah3333oh no, front delt raise spammer spotted

  • @mn1907
    @mn1907 22 дня назад +407

    Fun fact: Waiter curls are called that way because you will wait quite long for the results

    • @PatrickFitzgerald..
      @PatrickFitzgerald.. 20 дней назад +3

      You won the internet my good sir

    • @timothykao7997
      @timothykao7997 16 дней назад +5

      I don’t know, when I tried, my bicep felt the burn pretty fast. I do it as a burn out exercise at the end of my arm workout

    • @skinnyguy7773
      @skinnyguy7773 15 дней назад +2

      @@timothykao7997 Same, but i don't position my hands the same he does. These subtle changes do make a difference

    • @charleshill1906
      @charleshill1906 13 дней назад

      @@timothykao7997 same. I use them to focus on the pump. Nice and slow controlled reps and it'll feel like the bicep is gonna pop. Or do it as you said, as a burnout after you've done your other arm work.

    • @theprophetofhate7188
      @theprophetofhate7188 День назад

      @@timothykao7997 Try it with a shake weight and you will be ready for the club.

  • @braddub8145
    @braddub8145 25 дней назад +1021

    "Waiter curls"
    - Screeches in Jeff Cavaliere -

    • @Im-Red-Faction
      @Im-Red-Faction 23 дня назад +8

      Waiting to see that 😂 at this point, idk who to believe

    • @Hitman01456
      @Hitman01456 23 дня назад +24

      @@Im-Red-Faction not Athlean x

    • @Abhi-wh3ik
      @Abhi-wh3ik 23 дня назад +24

      Jeff never said to do Waiter Curls and not EZ bar curls, in fact- his first biceps exercise of choice is EZ curls. Waiter curls are complimentary for 'pump'.

    • @Hitman01456
      @Hitman01456 23 дня назад +1

      @@Abhi-wh3ik a better alternative are incline curls which allow a better stretch

    • @braddub8145
      @braddub8145 23 дня назад +2

      @@Abhi-wh3ik It's literally just a joke because Jeff likes them

  • @muffinman15
    @muffinman15 18 дней назад +34

    dude your editors work is amazing. The little edits highlighting the muscles and what not are just top notch and make your videos super helpful

    • @user-cp9yo4jk9b
      @user-cp9yo4jk9b 14 дней назад +2

      check out davis diley if you like the editing

  • @abhi_shek1196
    @abhi_shek1196 25 дней назад +401

    Above the knee rack pulls?
    Someone summon Alpha destiny

    • @sergiomendoza4827
      @sergiomendoza4827 24 дня назад +30

      I bought the traps and neck program and Jeff included rack pulls there (which I believe have been awesome for my traps), it's weird to see that exercise in this list

    • @worldbender1436
      @worldbender1436 24 дня назад

      Rack pulls below the knee are a lot better than above the knee and rack pulls either way are overrated, you're better off doing deadlifts​@@sergiomendoza4827

    • @kyle21843
      @kyle21843 24 дня назад +14

      Jeff and alex leonidas are friends actually

    • @maxpowers4436
      @maxpowers4436 24 дня назад +7

      No need to summon him if you follow him you know his time with them are past and while not overated he hyped them way to much and there are plenty alterntives.
      He has not done them for ages.

    • @tyreeses6590
      @tyreeses6590 24 дня назад +2

      ​@sergiomendoza4827 The issue with Jeff's body part specific guides is that they are dated. I think he's updated his belief system in regard to movements and hypertrophy.
      For example, I know for a fact that program also incorporates bar holds/plate pinches. While these are good for strength, they're submaximal due to the lack of stretch or a cocentric/eccentric phase. You can get the same time under tension, build strength in a wider plane of movement, and cause the summation of metabolites that signal muscle growth (the burn) way easier and more enjoyably by doing Smith Machine Shrugs, cable reverse curls, forearm curls, etc.

  • @team2846
    @team2846 20 дней назад +241

    Bro is getting too big for a science based lifter

    • @FreshDougan
      @FreshDougan 17 дней назад +28

      Ya he's almost as big as a 4th grader now.

    • @Spiritcr1jsher
      @Spiritcr1jsher 12 дней назад

      Looks like a fat 6th grader

    • @user-he1xc1lr7i
      @user-he1xc1lr7i 7 дней назад

      He has a great natural form!

    • @yudistiraliem135
      @yudistiraliem135 7 дней назад +5

      He’s short, they tend to look more stocky.

    • @awarem8739
      @awarem8739 День назад +6

      @@yudistiraliem135very true. One of the reasons I stopped lifting as much as a short guy because I was staring to look ridiculous from that short and stocky combination lol

  • @dbr8099
    @dbr8099 25 дней назад +307

    The bulking looking good buddy!

    • @MadelnOahu
      @MadelnOahu 24 дня назад +36

      BRO IS MASSIVE

    • @dinguskhan46329
      @dinguskhan46329 24 дня назад +23

      Hes so short

    • @MadelnOahu
      @MadelnOahu 24 дня назад +56

      @@dinguskhan46329 short kings got that advantage in life. #BlessUp

    • @user-wx6rc4ki4j
      @user-wx6rc4ki4j 24 дня назад +30

      The bulk might be going well but the outfit sure isn’t. Don’t get me wrong I love Jeff but that was not the best choice of clothing

    • @rockyevans1584
      @rockyevans1584 24 дня назад

      ​@@user-wx6rc4ki4jlmao I rarely notice a man's clothes, gotta be particularly dapper or notably awful and this certainly grabbed my attention. Everything he's wearing is whack

  • @josephtonich2943
    @josephtonich2943 20 дней назад +90

    "Waiter curls are over-rated"
    *32 missed calls from Jeff Cavalier*

    • @fredrikandersson1846
      @fredrikandersson1846 20 дней назад

      I feel they fo what they're supposed to do! You shouldn't so only these but you could use it as complimentary isolation if you only have dumbells at home

    • @gmsems
      @gmsems 20 дней назад +1

      Imagine if he put face crushers on this list.

    • @BigstickNick
      @BigstickNick 18 дней назад

      To be fair…Jeff uses that exercise as an example to show the wrists being neutralized from the lift. He suggests to use that grip for all sorts of curls.
      2nd, that lift was made popular by a bodybuilder(forget who), who had lots of success with it. So yeah, I’ll still do them.

    • @utliscarletaaron6287
      @utliscarletaaron6287 11 дней назад

      Doesn't make them good idiot. That's a hasty generalization. And guess who's the biggest? 300/300 mile mentzer. ​@@BigstickNick

    • @manishkulasekara3408
      @manishkulasekara3408 2 дня назад

      @@fredrikandersson1846 fuck no

  • @QuickCuriosity150
    @QuickCuriosity150 25 дней назад +89

    i agree with everything except the rack pulls. coming from a physiotherapy perspective. rack pulls can be a great alternative to regress the deadlift if you want to try keep the movement in the program until your back injury heals.
    i struggle with generic sciatica and hurt my back while deadlifting. i switched it to a rack pull for two weeks to rehab the back and now im back deadlifting stronger than ever.

    • @benw2119
      @benw2119 23 дня назад +1

      He said “above the knee” rackpulls.

    • @QuickCuriosity150
      @QuickCuriosity150 23 дня назад +14

      @@benw2119 my point includes with rack pulls above the knee my dude.

    • @benw2119
      @benw2119 23 дня назад +1

      @@QuickCuriosity150well….above the knee and below the knee are entirely different lifts….my dude 😂

    • @QuickCuriosity150
      @QuickCuriosity150 23 дня назад +12

      @@benw2119 no there not from a rehab perspective. if i was progress a paitent with low back pain to a full deadlift i would start them at a rack pull above the knee or slightly below the knee cap if there pain levels allow and week to week lower the height and then the paitent can transition to a full deadlift.
      they may be different lifts but there very similar. again im looking at this from a rehab perspective not a body building one. there both great excercises that have there place

    • @QuickCuriosity150
      @QuickCuriosity150 23 дня назад

      @@benw2119 i would encourage you to read into some of the statements i’ve made in your own time and see if you agree or disagree with me. i’ve enjoyed this discussion

  • @zoden6305
    @zoden6305 20 дней назад +14

    Crunches not being on here is diabolical

    • @AttainTheGrain
      @AttainTheGrain 20 дней назад +11

      As an Army vet, the amount of time I spent writhing on my back in the rain, snow and heat in pure agony cranking out sets of this useless exercise pains me.
      To this day, I don't train abs anymore ( I really need to start though, lol).

    • @ytmld
      @ytmld 20 дней назад +5

      @attainthegrain cable crunches are miles better than any normal bw crunches just bc you can progressively overload. I would do those instead

    • @AttainTheGrain
      @AttainTheGrain 20 дней назад +4

      @@ytmld Yeah, I don't do any exercises without adding extra weight/resistance. It's nonsensical. I don't know why they are so widely encouraged tbh.

    • @Jaeslecan
      @Jaeslecan 19 дней назад +1

      ​@AttainTheGrain Oef Vet here- I attest!

  • @jessekulju1922
    @jessekulju1922 23 дня назад +18

    Agree with waiter curls and external rotation exercises but rack pulls are not useless because u can overload ur upper back muscles with it. And front raises are good time under tension exercise for front delts.

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 22 дня назад +1

      when you understand physics you understand that gravity isn't the only force out there. Standing external rotation targets your rotator cuff. You are horribly wrong

    • @--Alexander--
      @--Alexander-- 21 день назад +1

      ​@@artemis1127 bro he didnt said that he doesnt agrees with external rotation

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 21 день назад

      @@--Alexander-- where did I say he said that. My point is that the exerciss does work your external and internal rotators

    • @Kabra2012
      @Kabra2012 21 день назад

      @@artemis1127 less a matter of not targeting the rotators, more a case of it being highly inefficient an easily replaced by something far more optimal.
      If standing DB is all you have to work with, then making do is better than doing nothing - that will very rarely be the case for anyone that has access to a standard gym or basic equipment

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 21 день назад

      @@Kabra2012 who is it inefficient? The faster you go the more torque required to change the motion.

  • @SamC_182
    @SamC_182 23 дня назад +95

    The above the knee rack pull helped my traps grow far more than any shrug ever has

    • @Fishlord136
      @Fishlord136 23 дня назад +1

      They also get smashed on the snatch and clean and jerk if you wanna more useful lifts

    • @SamC_182
      @SamC_182 23 дня назад +28

      @@Fishlord136 in the context of pure bodybuilding goals, I would actually pass on Olympic lifts

    • @youtuberdisguiser6075
      @youtuberdisguiser6075 23 дня назад

      ​Yet those have a higher injury risk, and also a higher fatigue to stimulus ratio. ​@@Fishlord136
      Further you can overload way more.
      Like the strongest lifter can go above 1000lbs for above the knee pulls.
      You could also use progressive range of motion where you increase the Rom as a way of progressive overload.

    • @griffinvz2188
      @griffinvz2188 23 дня назад +1

      Same!

    • @jaketaz2848
      @jaketaz2848 22 дня назад

      Uh huh

  • @Citizen_of_the_Kingdom
    @Citizen_of_the_Kingdom 23 дня назад +5

    The “waiter curls” instead grab the DB as a wheel and curl it from in front of hip to behind the neck, to the triceps stretched position. I do these as a mobility style warm up for my upper body it helps keep my elbows and shoulders from becoming a a rice krispy treat. You can also do this lying down to get a really solid pump in the chest and lats / serratus muscle (or however its spelled, who needs big brain when you have big muscles and big heart (LVH is a serious condition don’t take that lightly brothers)

  • @user-vp3ub2fn6v
    @user-vp3ub2fn6v 23 дня назад +2

    I actually like to do 2 sets of moderately heavy front raises before I bench press. I used to have really sore shoulders after benching heavy but warming them up has helped a lot.

  • @angelortiz6373
    @angelortiz6373 24 дня назад +13

    I think rack pulls are great for building grip strength but agree about doing other things for traps.

    • @stuka101
      @stuka101 21 день назад +2

      How bout just do any other pull and actually get stuff out of it. rack pulls are pointless

    • @angelortiz6373
      @angelortiz6373 21 день назад

      @@stuka101 it depends on your goal. You can load up for rack pulls much heavier than a bent over row or lat pull down. And it's much safer. Especially if you're doing it as a finisher to your workout on pull day. Same with something like dead hangs.

    • @stuka101
      @stuka101 21 день назад

      @angelortiz6373 well obviously because the ROM is so small. I guess if you're concerned about grip strength your main focus must be power lifting. Ylu get enough of it through other exercises in body building.

    • @angelortiz6373
      @angelortiz6373 21 день назад

      @stuka101 exactly my point. 👍 similar to how doing negatives and controlling the eccentric can help you build strength even if you can't lift it in the concentric phase of the exercise.

  • @VC10899
    @VC10899 24 дня назад +3

    Look like an old school grandpa still working out at 80 with those wardrobe choices. Love it

  • @micaheldey1981
    @micaheldey1981 24 дня назад +7

    Sorry my Guy rack pulls are goated. Helps build a thick back and shore up weakness to help your Deadlifts. Traps are hammered also.

    • @kenw2225
      @kenw2225 18 дней назад

      Do a pull up. Size guys love looking huge , not being strong

    • @Bruh-lm4zr
      @Bruh-lm4zr 17 дней назад

      Not everyone is looking to be strong. If people just want to put on muscle/size that’s fine

    • @ChristopherCleovoulou
      @ChristopherCleovoulou 13 дней назад +1

      @@Bruh-lm4zr who tf doesnt want to be strong?

  • @chubbydinosaur9148
    @chubbydinosaur9148 22 дня назад +1

    Number 3 was a good tip for fixing a shoulder issue I'm currently facing.

  • @1uplink169
    @1uplink169 21 день назад +1

    Those front raises are to help create that separation from shoulder and chest. I do them with the power grip to really emphasis deepening that front cut.

  • @itsthatguy6878
    @itsthatguy6878 24 дня назад +5

    Front raises are the most overhated exercise. Theyre awesome and if you have an overhand grip already hit the side delt too. They are not as good for overall shoulder development as shoulder press/high incline press and not as important as side raises but still very good. The posterior delts get a huge stimulus by doing any back exercise and still people say its fine to do reverse peck deck or facepulls for them.

    • @DanielDangana
      @DanielDangana 23 дня назад

      Glad you said this because it's become a negative trend now hating on them

    • @SurelyCursed
      @SurelyCursed 22 дня назад +1

      ​@DanielDangana lmao front delts for the win. All I see is dudes with underdeveloped front belts saying how unnecessary it is. The front delta activates from resistance. Push ups, bench doesn't work that. The chest is doing the majority of the work. It's just trendy.

    • @DanielDangana
      @DanielDangana 22 дня назад +1

      @@SurelyCursed Yeah, exactly. Don't know where people got this idea that bench press works the front delts. It just doesn't

    • @immortal8447
      @immortal8447 22 дня назад

      @@SurelyCursed yup. My side and rear delt are more developed than my front, so my shoulders are wide but lack fullness

  • @user-he4ef9br7z
    @user-he4ef9br7z 24 дня назад +4

    Front raise - depends on your program and physique. You may abdolutely need more anterior delt work
    Waiter curls - trash
    Dumbbell rotations - trash
    Above knee rack pulls - useful for powerlifters having problems at lockout and for developing deadlift grip strength (if use without straps or with fat grips)

    • @Hajiroku
      @Hajiroku 24 дня назад

      Trouble at Lockout is always a positioning problem. It doesn’t help you extra with your full deadlift. It is useful for isolated holds though. But then if all you want to practice is your grip, you might as well do them from shrug height.

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 22 дня назад

      when you understand physics you understand that gravity isn't the only force out there. You are horribly wrong. Dumbbell external rotation while standing isn't trash. Your understanding of physics is

    • @kenw2225
      @kenw2225 18 дней назад

      Theyre also great if you throw a ball or other throwing motion in a sport you compete in. Pitchers esp, qb, all baseball players. Flexibility and stability with range of motion is important if you dont enjoy sitting out for injury recovery

  • @youtuberdisguiser6075
    @youtuberdisguiser6075 23 дня назад +2

    Rack pulls above the knee can make sense for pros though, dont oversimplify pls.
    It can help if the top range is weak for an individual, you can overload way more than with shrugs for the traps, and you also dont fatigue your legs as much. Further it can be nice for grip strength.

    • @stuka101
      @stuka101 21 день назад

      fatigue your legs in shrugs? lmao wut. grip strength? ye nah you get that from almost every exercise with arms involved. rack pulls are pointless, you dont need heavy weights for traps to build with all its androgen receptors...bodybuilding isnt about lifting heavy.

  • @coachcappadoch
    @coachcappadoch 22 дня назад +2

    The money in something like a front raise is not the front delt work. Its the rotator cuff stability as a secondary benefit that makes the exercise good. Only thing that matters is context
    A lot of people will take this as “dont do front raises”
    When front raises are not all that bad

  • @nikesbeast
    @nikesbeast 25 дней назад +6

    Naw ATK RACK PULLS ARE THE BEST FOR UPPER BACK

  • @tyler___4558
    @tyler___4558 25 дней назад +39

    Even though the waiter curl is far from the optimal bicep exercise, they can be great if you have wrist issues. I have chronic wrist problems that limit my ability to grip and curl and the waiters curl is one of the few exercises I can do.

    • @googlefaps5883
      @googlefaps5883 24 дня назад

      There is no bad exercise. Just whatever is convenient for u.

    • @heybro6105
      @heybro6105 24 дня назад +3

      Nah, it's stupid. Just use lighter dumbbells or a lighter curl bar.

    • @googlefaps5883
      @googlefaps5883 24 дня назад

      @@heybro6105 wow… he must’ve completely not thought of trying that Omg. 🤦‍♂️

    • @archlifts947
      @archlifts947 24 дня назад

      @@heybro6105you have severe issues regarding reading

    • @mtbracer123
      @mtbracer123 24 дня назад

      @@heybro6105but if they cannot then something that works for them works for them

  • @grouchypotatowolfpack5580
    @grouchypotatowolfpack5580 21 день назад +1

    Front raises work great for me as a warm up. My shoulders feel more stable and less joint-sore whenever I start with them.

  • @WilliamDaGreatYT
    @WilliamDaGreatYT 24 дня назад +6

    DB external rotations in a side plank position are solid too!

    • @QuickCuriosity150
      @QuickCuriosity150 22 дня назад +1

      Agreed but a lot of gym goers do it standing unfortunately I see so many make that mistake

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 22 дня назад

      ​@@QuickCuriosity150when you understand physics you understand that gravity isn't the only force out there. You are horribly wrong. It isn't a mistake. Please go learn what inertia is😂

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 22 дня назад

      Standing too

    • @QuickCuriosity150
      @QuickCuriosity150 22 дня назад

      @@artemis1127 ok mr smart guy educate me then ?

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 22 дня назад

      @@QuickCuriosity150 learn newtons first law

  • @Kris-Ako
    @Kris-Ako 23 дня назад +5

    The only excersise I do out of these examples is front raises, I still think they are worth the extra isolation.

  • @HeyMikeyLikesIt2
    @HeyMikeyLikesIt2 23 дня назад +1

    I’m not a fan of a loose grip. I was loose gripping a lot of exercises and I would always get the tennis elbow and golf elbow pains so I started getting deeper and tighter grips and the pains went away.

  • @christiaaanC7
    @christiaaanC7 20 дней назад +1

    Phil Heat says we should do front raises. He says it is like "why do you train biceps if you already trainer them with back? Exacrly, that is why you do front raises even if you already trained your shoulders with shoulder press" . Plus, a physical therapist told me to do them to treat shoulder pain (which was in reality bicep tendonitis) and yes, it helped. So yes people, do front raises.

  • @mattuw82
    @mattuw82 20 дней назад +3

    Rack pulls are great. I start a few inches below the knee and end the motion with a shrug.

    • @Coconuthut1
      @Coconuthut1 20 дней назад

      Rack pulls are far superior to deadlifts. More back isolation, when deadlift is a mix of legs and back.

    • @KurokamiNajimi
      @KurokamiNajimi 20 дней назад

      @@Coconuthut1Stiff leg deadlift

    • @Coconuthut1
      @Coconuthut1 20 дней назад

      @@KurokamiNajimi solid for the hammies. If I want to isolate back rack pulls or rows are best

    • @KurokamiNajimi
      @KurokamiNajimi 20 дней назад

      @@Coconuthut1 You are right that the back is more active in the mid-shortened of a deadlift but I don’t necessarily think of exercises as better than each other anymore bc of slightly different stimulus and variety for avoiding long term overuse. Heck you could do a stiff leg rack pull I never thought of that

  • @GrappleHeavy93
    @GrappleHeavy93 25 дней назад +6

    Rack Pulls have the highest activation for the Traps in EMG studies.
    Edit: EMG's are not always the best determining factor for hypertrophy, however, rack pulls have also historically made my traps significantly more sore than any other exercise. Stimulus to Fatigue ratio isn't the best, but if you want to target the traps they are a great option imo. I say take the Pepsi challenge & find out for yourself 🤷🏼

    • @Shazok55
      @Shazok55 25 дней назад +2

      And god awful sfr ratio, also emg isn't the best indicator of growth

    • @phuclethanh3740
      @phuclethanh3740 25 дней назад +1

      Emg is not good indicator of growth

  • @joturna1
    @joturna1 21 день назад +1

    Rack pulls are pretty nice for ppl recovering from a bad back injury 🤷🏼‍♂️ before I started doing deadlifts again I made rackpulls instead and they really helped a lot

  • @pashaboss6
    @pashaboss6 13 дней назад

    Thank god you mentioned hyper extension of the wrists🙌
    It's like nobody notices how bad that could be for the joints for. People with average or below average genetics😢

  • @mrAngusGus
    @mrAngusGus 25 дней назад +62

    I don't buy the "if you feel it too much in the forearms, loosen the grip". Idk how this makes any sense bio-mechanically. It's like the people who say to take a looser grip on lat pull downs: just because you weaken your connection to the lift at one point doesn't mean it becomes stronger at the other connection points

    • @damram6952
      @damram6952 25 дней назад +25

      It's more about how you end up overcompensating with your forearms instead. By "loosening" your grip, you're not forcing the weight up with your forearrms. It's not strict advice of course but it could a good cue for some

    • @-year-olddoespush-upsinarow
      @-year-olddoespush-upsinarow 25 дней назад

      Exactly what I thought

    • @oladiedoo50
      @oladiedoo50 25 дней назад +10

      The advice works because when you’re curling, you might try and cut short the range of the bicep by curling with your hands sometimes thinking they’ve hit high enough; hence the forearms taking over. That’s why you let the forearms go so you can feel the actual range of the bicep. It may seem silly but it definitely happens especially in a really hard set where you’re grinding as much as you can from every rep

    • @omergoktuggunes4730
      @omergoktuggunes4730 25 дней назад +5

      ​@@damram6952 the loosening grip que might have some logic behind it when doing curls because in a curl you can flex your forearm to lift the weight but in most cases and especially pull down exercises loosening your grip or using a thumb less grip is straight up dumb because in fact your forearms cannot do shoulder extension and the only thing you will achieve with such a grip is loosing tightness

    • @marcobecerra1977
      @marcobecerra1977 25 дней назад

      I agree. Further, having strong forearms is better long terms. Weak forearms are not conducive to pull ups or rows.

  • @Verziroo
    @Verziroo 24 дня назад +3

    Never understood the front raise slander. Why would you not want your front delts bigger? Bigger front delts = bigger OHP, bench, dip…

    • @Robin24204
      @Robin24204 18 дней назад +1

      Because you already train a lot of front delts anyway, by for example bench press, incline dumbell press, shoulder press, dips, ... any pressing exercise in general

    • @chloeburb4nk1
      @chloeburb4nk1 17 дней назад

      Junk volume beast

  • @Mzed.8
    @Mzed.8 18 дней назад +1

    Concentration curls are the best do them instead of waiter curls. As when u hit failure assist yourself with the other hand for your concentration curls, this way you can really feel the PUMP
    🔥🔥🔥

  • @therealmattstokes
    @therealmattstokes 18 дней назад

    Thanks for all the solid info, Jeff

  • @aldorodriguez7310
    @aldorodriguez7310 24 дня назад +5

    I never thought about how unnecessary are the front raises! You sabed me a lot of time! Every time I watch this short videos he upgrades my game in just a few seconds!

    • @DanielDangana
      @DanielDangana 23 дня назад +3

      I honestly wouldn't take his advice. Absolutely nothing wrong with isolating them

    • @bce6936
      @bce6936 22 дня назад +3

      yeah everybody says "the front delts already get enough volume!" but the same could be said for the tricep, biceps and forearms. Yet we overload them, because we want them massive. If you want massive front delts doing isolation could be a solid part of your plan

  • @chikinnugit9867
    @chikinnugit9867 25 дней назад +11

    I like waiter curls to failure as my last set for biceps exercises. I do them over an upright bench, which doesn't leave the best range of motion. But at the end of a pull day, nothing lights up my biceps more than waiter curls and it ensures that my biceps are the muscle that's failing.

    • @Goenie2005
      @Goenie2005 24 дня назад +2

      I love waiter curls as well

    • @johanwahlen1966
      @johanwahlen1966 24 дня назад +1

      I do waiter curls. since you can go really heavy. And they hit my brachiallis effectively. My pull ups has gotten a lot stronger because of it.

    • @967mviews2
      @967mviews2 21 день назад +1

      I use waiter curls for the same reason.

  • @yeahok5185
    @yeahok5185 20 дней назад

    Killing it short king

  • @keyR3dz
    @keyR3dz 11 дней назад

    Yes!! Thanks for the video! More avoidable exercises please

  • @Walker299
    @Walker299 23 дня назад +9

    Nobody is overrating front raises. They’re like never done…

    • @Ablazin2
      @Ablazin2 22 дня назад +7

      Go to a 24 hour gym and you’ll be surprised lol

    • @TurdBoi-tf5lf
      @TurdBoi-tf5lf 21 день назад +5

      Not really. A lot of people do that at my gym

    • @DaDualityofMan
      @DaDualityofMan 17 дней назад

      That’s what I was thinking about the other ones too

  • @Reatha-zj2lw
    @Reatha-zj2lw 25 дней назад +38

    Well done! The effort and passion are evident.

    • @StanHalen1936
      @StanHalen1936 25 дней назад

      This dumb porn bot got 33 likes.

  • @artosbear
    @artosbear 14 дней назад

    Barbell raises in general suck. Grab a band and do dislocates with a pull back of the shoulders at the front and a curling inward of them at the back. Bring hands in a bit on the band to increase tension and load every fiber under stretch and then contraction across the entire movement.

  • @aarong8457
    @aarong8457 16 дней назад

    Beautiful video. I always say all of these to people. Especially that gravity points down, so most people are doing medicine ball workouts wrong.

  • @unmuzzledgoat
    @unmuzzledgoat 25 дней назад +26

    The quality on these shorts r immaculate

  • @DarthNoshitam
    @DarthNoshitam 25 дней назад +6

    Looking super fluffy 🧸

    • @AntonioZL
      @AntonioZL 25 дней назад

      jeff going bear mode again

  • @user-nb2gi6vs3n
    @user-nb2gi6vs3n 19 дней назад

    The #1 underrated exercise is weighted back extension, especially going really heavy.

  • @novahyper6731
    @novahyper6731 18 часов назад

    Good advice. However, F = ma. In the external rotations you are alternating the direction of acceleration to both stop the dumbbell from continuing its motion and to move it in the opposite direction. The additional mass of the dumbbell gives it inertia, which requires more force from your shoulders. Using a cable instead applies a constant force against your motion, but only in the outward direction. It’s a trade off: dumbbell rotations will work your shoulders in both direction but will apply most of the workload at the extremities of the motion, while cable rotations will apply a constant resistance but only in one direction, which may require additional reps to work the other direction.

  • @getthepicture1000
    @getthepicture1000 25 дней назад +4

    I used to follow the 'no front delt work needed' thing, but honestly once I sprinkled in more front delt work they're getting bigger. So that's all the evidence I need.

    • @Matrim42
      @Matrim42 24 дня назад +1

      I don’t think anyone is arguing that isolating the front delts won’t make them bigger, just that if you’re really hammering your bench and whatnot you won’t need them.

  • @filiphudak9706
    @filiphudak9706 25 дней назад +3

    My front delts are underdeveloped so I DO front db raise and they are great. I like to warm up with bands and the rack pulls can be great if you have hard time locking out.

    • @Hajiroku
      @Hajiroku 24 дня назад

      Lock out is always a positioning issue. Above the knee rack pulls aren’t saving you there since I assume you don’t struggle to lift your max from above knee height. Bet you do it for reps. So in that case it’s just ego padding or time wasting at best.

  • @tparkerino
    @tparkerino 17 дней назад

    Holy shit i click on this after a few month hiatus and youre Huge AND have some sick video editing going on wtf. What a lad

  • @Hankextreme
    @Hankextreme 23 дня назад +1

    In external rotation with a dumbbell you are actually fighting the inertia of the weight, so it’s not exactly the same as without weights

    • @1uplink169
      @1uplink169 21 день назад

      Thank you, he was being really smarmy with that comment.

  • @yungm3782
    @yungm3782 20 дней назад +4

    nice edits

  • @UnoReversecard-ys8vl
    @UnoReversecard-ys8vl 25 дней назад +10

    One thing that you seem to miss is that the dumbbells do add inertia so if you move at the same speed it will take more force to do that than without dumbbells. Nice video though

    • @himeshsinghshishodiya
      @himeshsinghshishodiya 24 дня назад

      Inertia doesn't work that way. Dumbbells will always require more force to initiate and stop the movement. Still a stup!d exercise.

    • @UnoReversecard-ys8vl
      @UnoReversecard-ys8vl 24 дня назад

      @@himeshsinghshishodiya what I meant was if you move it at the same speed as without the dumbbells you’re providing more force to accelerate them to that speed I know how inertia works

    • @frogboi4607
      @frogboi4607 24 дня назад

      There’s inertia when your switching directions and moving them

    • @cristian9365
      @cristian9365 23 дня назад

      I don't think it makes it any useful though. Also, it seems like the stretch reflex takes away any mechanical tension anyway

    • @artemis1127
      @artemis1127 22 дня назад

      ​@@himeshsinghshishodiyaand what stops the movement? Your rotator cuff🤯🤯

  • @poser_disposer
    @poser_disposer 16 дней назад

    The above the knee rack pulls are good for recovering from a lower back injury.

  • @reseed4950
    @reseed4950 19 дней назад

    The vertical force of gravity and the length of your arms creates a moment force on your shoulders

  • @corenko
    @corenko 23 дня назад +4

    "Your front delts are worked in every pressing exercise so you don't have to isolate"
    Same thing with triceps, but we do isolate it right?

    • @DanielDangana
      @DanielDangana 23 дня назад +1

      Exactly almost every muscle needs to be isolated at least once in a while

  • @AntonioZL
    @AntonioZL 25 дней назад +8

    Jeff looking big as heck.

    • @jokerpilled2535
      @jokerpilled2535 25 дней назад

      How long has he been working out?

    • @austinh.2618
      @austinh.2618 25 дней назад +4

      ​@jokerpilled2535 not sure, but being so short helped him get big a lot quicker than a man of normal stature

    • @AntonioZL
      @AntonioZL 25 дней назад +4

      @@jokerpilled2535 15+ years, probably nearing 20 years by now. He's been working out since he has a teenager, and he is in his early 30s if I'm not mistaken. At this point he's probably already at his genetic ceiling, so the only way to make noticeable gains is by bulking up, which is obviously mostly fat.

    • @tyler___4558
      @tyler___4558 25 дней назад +11

      @@austinh.2618 He's 4 inches shorter than average. No doubt it helps that he's short, but I think you're overestimating how much of a difference it makes compared to someone a few inches taller.

    • @PedroGomes-cx7ku
      @PedroGomes-cx7ku 24 дня назад

      @@tyler___4558 How tall is he?

  • @TrevDawgRS
    @TrevDawgRS 22 дня назад

    DB external rotations are great, just gotta do them bent over like barbells rows. I start every single workout with 1 set of bent over DB external rotations just using the 5 lbs. It's really not a movement where you want a ton of tension anyway in my opinion so go light. It's just about getting them rotators warmed up and awakening the upper body. You don't want to tire them out.

  • @sirhc4923
    @sirhc4923 25 дней назад +16

    I will always do isolation work for all 3 delts. Don’t care that I work them during pressing.

    • @alschirjaev9213
      @alschirjaev9213 25 дней назад +3

      you must be on gear then

    • @prointernetuser
      @prointernetuser 25 дней назад +11

      wasting your own time is entirely your own prerogative

    • @sirhc4923
      @sirhc4923 24 дня назад +1

      I’m not on gear and I’m certainly not wasting my time.

    • @mark_mayers
      @mark_mayers 24 дня назад +1

      @@sirhc4923 keep doing it if you want. All he's saying is that you don't need it in order for them to grow. This doesn't mean the extra volume won't make them grow faster, it just depends how much volume you can handle.

    • @sirhc4923
      @sirhc4923 24 дня назад +1

      @@mark_mayers he’s saying it’s overrated and he’s not the only one either. I’m just tired of hearing the same thing regurgitated while not being necessarily accurate.

  • @yourman4820
    @yourman4820 20 дней назад +7

    Bro’s actually quite short

  • @SkiBum09
    @SkiBum09 18 дней назад

    Thank you for these tips

  • @MS-gv9wr
    @MS-gv9wr 24 дня назад

    Jeff you are awesome and I have been watching your videos forever. I just want to show some appreciation. We all benefit from your videos so keep it up.

  • @3legreg
    @3legreg 20 дней назад +4

    Gripping the bar softer does not increase bicep engagement in a curl.
    If anything gripping the bar increases bicep engagement as their will be more stability.
    If you just don’t want to fatigue your forearms then that’s fine ig

    • @JaredHathaway
      @JaredHathaway 20 дней назад +2

      that just aint true...

    • @ytmld
      @ytmld 20 дней назад +3

      softer grip or with straps is better to take tension off of forearms, but the bicep won’t actually change unless if your ROM changes or weight

  • @tehnoobclone
    @tehnoobclone 25 дней назад +3

    BUT WHAT ABOUT LONG LENGTH PARTIALS? YOU DIDN'T MENTION LONG LENGTH PARTIALS.

  • @captainawesome9380
    @captainawesome9380 14 дней назад

    I overemphasized hammer curls when I was younger and it built a foundation that seems to always take over. When I added waiter curls, it allowed me to recruit parts of my biceps that I haven’t felt for years and drastically changed the shape. That being said, I sacrificed weight and put emphasis on reps or extended tension over time.
    It’s not that it is a good exercise or a bad exercise. It is a specific exercise. They will not be part of my normal routine. They will be beneficial to everyone. And even if it would benefit someone, that may be counteracted by how they do it.
    That being said, feel free to experiment, but don’t let the newest trend become your blueprint.

  • @JesseGilbride
    @JesseGilbride 24 дня назад

    Good suggestions. I might be wrong, but I think the rack pulls are meant as an accessory for those with difficulty locking out the top of a deadlift (and done with heavy/workset weight to mimic the deadlift).

  • @donmero3219
    @donmero3219 20 дней назад +9

    Bro are you on dirty bulk j😂

  • @kylerswamp1075
    @kylerswamp1075 20 дней назад +9

    Gotta say this: your genetics are influencing your advice to a general advice. Some-many actually- people do indeed show much more deltoid development with front raises than without, regardless of presses in your routine. Same with your curling advice. Different muscular shape and connections simply require different avenues of stimulation. Maybe not overrated exercises, maybe you just don't need the particular stimulation they provide because you have a fortunate conglomeration of hypertrophically prodigious genes

    • @hatchetomahawk
      @hatchetomahawk 20 дней назад

      So many people aren't aware of better and more effective exercises. Your opinion seems to have some personal agenda to it or just a poor comprehension of how Jeff's advice is intended to be taken? If someone is getting some end all development from front raises then they would be a fool for changing their program because of another person's advice anyway.

  • @diliricimihai2318
    @diliricimihai2318 25 дней назад

    nice tips, one of my favourite fitness influencers. Can you do a video about resting times?

  • @VedanttKabra
    @VedanttKabra 19 дней назад

    Dumbbell External Rotation has inertial forces on the shoulder joint.

  • @hellomawn2562
    @hellomawn2562 20 дней назад +6

    who tf actually does any of these

    • @ytmld
      @ytmld 20 дней назад +1

      I do, i used to do the rear delt exercise but I stopped because they really don’t do much like he said

    • @aakashbaliga1881
      @aakashbaliga1881 20 дней назад

      A lot of people do front raises

  • @zcristian11
    @zcristian11 20 дней назад +15

    Bro wth are you wearing i mean come on.
    Love the content though but come one bro

    • @Over-9k
      @Over-9k 20 дней назад +8

      Who cares what he’s wearing, all that matters is the information

    • @liqxidate
      @liqxidate 20 дней назад +13

      It's a tank and shorts bro.

    • @Cogu985
      @Cogu985 20 дней назад +4

      What's wrong with his clothes?

    • @TylerRissman
      @TylerRissman 20 дней назад +1

      Why you worried about another blokes clothing choice?

    • @aakashbaliga1881
      @aakashbaliga1881 20 дней назад +1

      Bro has never seen a tank top and shorts

  • @coltongibbs1518
    @coltongibbs1518 21 день назад

    Looooove me some mid shin rack-pulls. Stand on a couple plates if your safety racks won't go low enough

  • @SuperElninotorres
    @SuperElninotorres 12 дней назад

    Jay cutler swears by rack pulls and his back was insane. That initial ground to rack height is engaging a lot of flutes and hamstrings.
    Rack pulls isolates lower back and is way more safer without the need for the huge effort to break the weight from the ground

  • @DuckDonald44
    @DuckDonald44 20 дней назад +5

    Never listen to young "fitness experts", especially those with gym bro bodies.

    • @EdgeEdits
      @EdgeEdits 20 дней назад +8

      This dude is speaking nothing but facts though so you're wrong

    • @nolannotnoland7325
      @nolannotnoland7325 20 дней назад +10

      This guy is one of the most credible and reliable fitness influencers out there?

    • @dethdaemon
      @dethdaemon 20 дней назад +1

      That's your first mistake, judging someone on their body, not the quality of the advice they give 😂 "Gym bro body"

    • @DuckDonald44
      @DuckDonald44 19 дней назад

      Gym Bro, bum boys be like...

    • @nolannotnoland7325
      @nolannotnoland7325 19 дней назад

      @@DuckDonald44 do you even know what you're saying 😂

  • @Gracefuldesigns
    @Gracefuldesigns 25 дней назад

    Thank you so much! This is such a great video!

  • @3X73RM
    @3X73RM 18 дней назад

    I do below the knee rack pulls. I have sciatica nerve issues and I also find full ROM deadlifts just uncomfortable, so I settle for rack pulls where the bar is just below the knee. Combine that with heavy AF farmer's carry and stiff legged deadlifts, you will hit the posterior chain just fine 😊

  • @Vaklaaja
    @Vaklaaja 23 дня назад +2

    bro forgot what "overrated" means

  • @tyrvinodinson9790
    @tyrvinodinson9790 22 дня назад

    I've just added shrugs to my program, good back exercise after my deadlifts. Then some dips to round out my day

  • @Jeromesketch
    @Jeromesketch 22 дня назад +1

    I don’t know but front raises did wonders for me

    • @1uplink169
      @1uplink169 21 день назад

      Yes likewise. I appreciate the intention of the video, but things need to be taken with a grain of salt, not interpreted as unequivocal truth.
      Check out 3 different trainers and they will fundamentally adhere to training specifics, but go about it in various ways.

  • @luproducedit5623
    @luproducedit5623 25 дней назад

    Love Jeff Nippard 💪🏽 one of the only ppl I take advice from n seen a difference between my look and strength

  • @brianjohnsadventure
    @brianjohnsadventure 25 дней назад +1

    Awesome advice man!

  • @sohailrafique3444
    @sohailrafique3444 19 дней назад

    Love the editing!👌

  • @tijmen6947
    @tijmen6947 16 дней назад

    When you shake the weights side to side, yes you dont fight gravity, but the side to side motion still taking force to change direction.

  • @koenraijer7596
    @koenraijer7596 23 дня назад

    I always do bent-over dumbbell rotations as rotator cuff warm up because cables are often taken

  • @boom-bm1kl
    @boom-bm1kl 21 день назад

    Above the knee rack pulls are gold

  • @100KGNatty
    @100KGNatty 21 день назад +1

    Bro made some voice gainz

  • @SkiBum09
    @SkiBum09 18 дней назад

    Your videos are helping me get shredded

  • @100KGNatty
    @100KGNatty 21 день назад +1

    If you hit your biceps doing pulling movements, then why are you doing bicep curls?

  • @dylanlollar6045
    @dylanlollar6045 23 дня назад

    I personally don't do them, but I understand rack pulls when the lockout of your DL is your sticking point

  • @joeyshurland9840
    @joeyshurland9840 23 дня назад

    Honestly I think above the knee rack pulls are better for trap development than shrugs because of the insane trap stretch and cause less systemic fatigue than deadlifts.

  • @rasmuslindved6737
    @rasmuslindved6737 20 дней назад

    DB external rotation is a bit more complex then that and normally I dont feel that you neglect the details. I belive it works like the standing ab twister(using a barbell for weight). The work is in the acceleration and deceleration, thus the more load, the higher the moment needed. (But yes for warmup no weights can get you warm just fine)

  • @youngsterjoey9038
    @youngsterjoey9038 22 дня назад

    My delts started really growing once I incorporated cable front raises

  • @arkelon
    @arkelon 22 дня назад

    Inertia will apply resistance on the external rotations

  • @gvngbvngiggy
    @gvngbvngiggy 20 дней назад

    Banded external rotations are goated for anyone with hypermobile shoulders

  • @amahmoodi
    @amahmoodi 25 дней назад +1

    excellent content style and length 👌🏽