PS: regarding the chemistry of Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis? They were in a relationship at the time of the film, and got married the following year, a marriage which lasted through the early 90s.
The ‘80s was such a great decade, for remakes especially: like The Thing, The Fly, The Blob ... Nobody bothers to make good remakes, anymore .. too much of a lazy reliance on CGI, there’s no creativity or passion Good to see you doing a reaction to this, great choice of film
Fun trivia: the original design for the telepods was gonna be just like a glass phone booth kinda design. But David Cronenberg wanted something more grounded in reality and machine-like and he chose the design after the engine of his 1976 duel cylinder Ducati motorcycle. 🤔🤓👍👍
I first saw this in 1987 when I could rent it on video (I was 17 back then). For me this is Jeff Goldblum's best film. His acting is on point going from a meek, quiet genius, to an out of control mad scientist, to someone dealing with a disease (as he begins to transform) and finally becoming a literal monster--- and yet we can still feel and incredible amount of empathy for him at the end. And I believe this was due to Jeff Goldblum being just so charismatic when he was "normal." Seth Brundle is a tragic character in the classic sense- and his final death scene can still bring a tear to my eye to this day. Also due to being able to feel every ounce of Veronica's pain having to mercy kill him. Geena Davis' performance was fantastic. Poor Seth. All he wanted to do was create a new form of transportation because he suffered from motion sickness. There is a deleted ending in which Veronica is clearly pregnant and has a dream about giving birth. Her normal looking baby sprouts butterfly wings and "flies away." The last shot is her asleep with a smile on her face so we get the impression she has made the decision to go through with the birth. So the "flying baby" effects which were practical and not CGI, looked ridiculous and it was the right decision to leave it out.
I was going to say the same thing, but didn't want to sound pedantic (don't worry, I don't think you are either). But I take her point that not relying on excessive optical effects was probably the smart thing to do.
Ahhh thanks so much. I’m definitely not educated on special effects enough. I’m way more tuned into the masters of practical effects like Tom Savini, Rick Baker, and Stan Winston. Anything that looks superimposed in my head just thinks “cgi”. I’ll have to research optical effects more.
@@ScaredPale Any movie made before '95 is gonna be using optical compositing, because that would have been the only option before cg. Only the big budget films had access to cg effects, or had maybe a couple of shots tops that were computer generated.
@@ScaredPale Optical effects are really interesting. As much as I long for the era of practical makeup, optical effects are generally obsolete and easily bested by modern CGI (in most cases anyway). I do however appreciate how ingenious many of those kinds of FX had to be.
CG was used to represent actual in-universe graphics on monitors and targeting computers, etc. since the70s. The first CG was in "Westworld" (1973) There's CG in original Star Wars on their targeting computers and and the "locker room" scene where they displayed the Death Star plans and outlined the attack plan. The first CG FX were spaceships in "The Last Starfighter" (1984) but looked like obvious CG. Most productions still used practical miniatures and hand drawn optical FX until the early 90's.
The Fly 2 was not well received but it does have a following and I liked it. It answers a lot of your questions. The monster is one of the coolest practical creatures, being one of the last ones before CG creatures started becoming the norm. (There's no "CG" FX in this movie. The blue gazappy light FX in the teleporters was old-school hand animated optical FX. The only CG were the graphics on his computer monitors and readouts)
The tv commercial (ad) for “The Fly 2” used to give me nightmares. I always felt it creepy when they use lullaby music for horror films. I’ll never forget those altered lyrics. I avoided watching the 2nd movie for years just because of that ad. “Hush little baby don’t be sad, You’ll grow up to be like dad. Hush little baby don’t you cry, Just because your dad was the fly!!!” 😱😱😱😱😱
the original idea for the fly 2 was to have an anti abortion cult convince her to have the baby. they would start something similar to the hitler's youth league. the child would appear normal and also have this head full of really disturbing propaganda.
I'm so glad you discovered David Cronenberg, and this film. This may all sound like hyperbole, but he really is one of the most important filmmakers of the past half century: Cronenberg considers all aspects of body horror, of the body's connection to the brain, and all of it's intruders. He considers the point of view of insects, disease, and bacteria... as living things, just like us, just trying to survive and make our way in the world. The Fly is not only my favorite horror movie, but one one my favorite love stories, and a tragedy which invites a myriad of interpretations each time you see it. The central metaphor can be read innumerably, as what it takes to remain in love in spite of aging, disease, mental illness, or (if you were watching at the time of The Fly's release) the AIDS epidemic. Not only that, but if you empathized all the way with Brundle's character, the idea of overcoming shyness, virginity, otherness... only to find death waiting for you on the other side. It's a very sad story, taken to it's farthest possible extreme, and performed note-perfect, as the most potent of modern grand-guignol shows. I hope you check out other Cronenberg stuff, but may I suggest holding off from Scanners for now? Scanners is well known, especially for one notorious effects scene, but it is also probably the weakest of Cronenberg's earlier films. The strongest of those would have to be The Brood, or Cronenberg's personal treatise on divorce, if you can believe that. Watch that, or maybe one of the later indisputable masterpieces, like Cronenberg's gynecological true-life melodrama Dead Ringers, or his one-of-a-kind literary adaptations of (the previously unadaptable) William Burroughs' Naked Lunch or James Ballard's Crash. Either way, welcome to the club. I will be checking in now and again, and very glad to have discovered your channel.
If any other movie director attempted this film it would have been silly. David Cronenberg was the absolutely right choice for the movie. The true master of body horror
The Fly is a work of genius because, leaving aside the entymological dimension, what happens to Brundle is a fate the majority of us will face. I love your reactions: you are super adorable. 😄🥰
When it comes to Stathis, you are looking at this through a very modern set of eyes, modern sensibilities; Yes, he's an arrogant, clingy jerkass, but remember that they were a couple, and when people live together, they get used to each others' flaws. As the film progresses, you do see he's still a good person who cares about her, despite those flaws. He tries to do the right thing by Veronica and goes to rescue her from Brundle. Brundle's story is tragic, as his changes mirror those of someone with an addiction or mental disease like schizophrenia or dementia. His denial and mania clouds his judgement and makes him lash out at the person who cares about him when they try to help.
Love this young lady"s reaction/reviews ,very articulate and insightful about all aspects of the film and film making, refreshing. Though it was not well recieved I remember the Fly 2 with Eric Stoltz as being worth a watch.
Actually, Vincent Price wasn't the star of the original film The Fly, his was more of a supporting role. He was the only cast member to return for the sequel though.
When the Baboon came out of the teleporter and jumped in to seth's arms you said that's always been a dream of mine and i was like... yeah, mine too, teleportation would be awesome and then you said to hug a monkey, ha ha i did not expect that!
If you like Jeff Goldblum in this there is a super campy Jeff in the adventures of buckaroo Banzai across the eight dimension, starring Peter Weller (robocop) Ellen Barkin (oceans 13) John Lithgow (Dick Solomon from 3rd rock) Jeff Goldblum (the Fly) Christopher Lloyd (doc Brown)
When I see Jeff Goldblum I always think of him in one of my favourite movies "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1978) One of my favourite David Cronenberg movies is "The Dead Zone" (1983)
Cronenberg is my favorite horror director and he has a very interesting filmography! His early films, through “Videodrome”, were pure body horror. Then he went Hollywood with “The Dead Zone” and “The Fly.” After this film he did a pair of critically acclaimed dramatic body horror films “Dead Ringers” and “Naked Lunch”. Then he did a handful of independent dramas/horror/surreal films before his Viggo Mortenson trilogy, of which “A History of Violence” and “Eastern Promises” were the best. His last 2 films with Robert Pattinson are interesting dramas but, despite the genre hopping, one thing I love about Cronenberg is how his films start out in worlds that make perfect sense and by the end things have fallen apart, usually accompanied by a ton of gore. Would love to see you react to more of his films!
You said her reaction at the end was "weak", when Brundlefly essentially asks her to shoot him. I think it's actually very human. There is a LOT to unpack....this was a man she fell in love with, who degenerated into a monster and slowly lost his humanity to the point that he tried to splice her, him and the baby together into some kind of horrific amalgamation....and if it had just been some inhuman monster than crawled out of that pod, I think she would have shot it in the head like she was about to....she paused because the emotion and horror of what she'd gone through was a lot for anyone to deal with. And then he showed her that he wasn't JUST an inhuman monster. That there was actually just enough humanity left in him to want to die, and to ask for her to do it. THAT is going to be a huge emotional kick, that she has to process and act upon quickly. And in the end she does. I don't think she was weak at all. I think its kinda like bravery....being brave isn't not feeling fear. Being brave is being terrified to act but having the strength to do it anyway. I think her reaction is similar to that. In the end, she has the strength to overcome all the horror and anguish she's dealing with....and pull the trigger.
Your view on their romance is a very modern view... Also it's obvious you have never been caught up in a whirlwind romance. They rarely last long term but God it's a hell of a ride and has pretty much nothing to do with logic, shared interests, or even compatibility. It's an emotion and hormone driven force of nature.
And she went to prison for life on the murder charge of the scientist 😆 LOL ...Outstanding reaction video 👍 📹 What I enjoy about your reactions is the research you've put into films , directors and actors.
Wow! I watched this movie with my grandmother when I didn't know how to READ yet. I wasn't in school yet. I had no idea young Geena Davis was the main actress in this 😮😮😮😮 i just found out now! She later became on of my favorite actesses. My mind is BLOWN!
To address the Cronenberg body horror question: yes, the pace and feel of his films differ depending on the movie. You can compare Shivers to Dead Ringers and the latter is far more subdued and methodical.
Great analysis! I love this film because it's also a metaphor for some relentless deteriorating condition (like terminal cancer, dementia, etc.) How does one cope with the reality of that? We see Seth go through the stages of acceptance: denial, anger, depression, bargaining, and acceptance.
Next to The Fly my favorite Cronenberg film is Dead Ringers, about twin gynecologists starring Jeremy Irons. It too, is tragic but enthralling and entirely original.
that " Be afraid, be very afraid" was the tagline for the movie Goldblum got an Oscar nomination for this. Chris Walas (creature creator) directed the sequel (not as great as this one but it was cool) something I noticed the first time I watched it (in an actual theater)... not sure if it was on purpose but like in the original, where the wife killed him by destroying his head with an industrial press, Veronica killed him by destroying his head with a shotgun.
As soon as you mentioned the motion sickness and teleportation, my mind immediately went to Independance Day. "Air Force One and still you get air sickness. Look at me. I'm like a rock. It could be good weather. It could be bad weather. It doesn't matter. We could go backwards. We could go forwards. We could go side-to-side." ... A fly that doesn't like to fly. ... I never made the connection until now.
Sometimes movies should indicate how much time has passed from one scene to the next but they rarely do. It seemed a few months went by before and during their romance, leading up to his odd jealous reaction by going through the telepods without her being there
It won the Oscar for Best Makeup! It's also said that the film is an allegory for AIDS, ad David Cronenberg said in an interview, 'If you and your lover have AIDS, then you should watch this movie, knowing how deadly and incurable this disease really is, and how it can affect your family, friends, and loved ones."
One thing though. He knew she was a journalist at the freakin' party. And then...'I never would've told this stuff to a journalist'. Like wtf? U say u like Geena. Check out The Long Kiss Goodnight.
There are few horror movies that have such a strong emotional impact as this one. It's one of the ultimate body horror movies. It's not just terrifying, it's also touching and tragic. Imo Jeff Goldblum delivered his best performance to date in this movie. The sequel is not terrible, but rather forgettable.
Chris Walas who did the FX also did the design and FX on GREMLINS. Cronenberg did a fun acting turn in Clive Barker's NIGHTBREED (see the directors cut if you can), and he has a fun cameo at the start of JASON X.
Wow you're so right about Stathis, he did kinda stop the whole wanting to be with her and just really wanted to help her thru this nightmare. Also him and Brundle kinda switching roles was a crazy twist for sure, great review!!!!
Love so many things about this movie, and Cronenberg in general. I'd say watch Scanners next, as its an early Cronenberg, but if you're a fan of the surrealism of Videodrome, I think you're gonna like eXistenZ, if you haven't already seen it.
There is a version of Spider-man that is a giant spider after being mutated further. And for Cronenberg I would suggest Scanners, Rabid and The Dead Zone. Also as an actor in Nightbreed.
🎬Another name for the "Fly II" could be Redemption. As with the original version of F2, the attempt was to redeem some sense of dignity and humanity left with the very sad and unfortunate legacy of Seth Brundle. A descent man, who simply wanted to revolutionize the well-being of humankind ...not destroy it! 🎬For me, the significant line in the film to describe the eerie, bone-chilling psychology of Seth Brundle (Brundlefly) was, "I'm saying I'm an insect who dreamt he was a man and loved it. But now the dream is over and the insect is awake." It reminded me that, however primitive, a fly does have a mind/brain. And for evolutionary survival a fly's DNA is more dynamic, aggressive and dominant than that of a human. And just like the body, the fly was also taking over the mind. In a way, Gina Davis' character didn't realize she was talking to 2 "people". 🎬Btw, if you haven't seen Stephen King's "The Dead Zone" '83, put it on your list. Arguably Cronenberg's best work. I really think you'll love it!🖖🏾
As others have, I also recommend "Fly II." It delves more deeply into the corporate aspects of this, as the company Brundle was working for finds out what he was doing secretly and tries to capitalize on it, a la Weyland-Yutani in the later "Alien" movies. Davis does give birth to Brundle's child, and saying anything else would give too much away. It's not as dark as this one, but the villain is much more easily defined. I also recommend "The Howling," which I found better than "American Werewolf in London," which came out around the same time. Its mood is darker and more foreboding, with a much better cast, and the score's much creepier.
my favorite Cronenburg is Videodrome by far (keep in mind I'm a total deviant) which unfortunately stars James Woods but he's really good in it and it has some weird interesting things to say about the self in relation to what we consume! It gets extremely otherworldly and trippy at the end and is open for interpretation imo plus it lowkey predicted twitter
Cronenberg is in the movie Night Breed by Clive Barker. Great director, great actor Only question I have is.. what if he did the teleportation at the end and ended up with a superior human. Guess we'll never know.. thanks Cronenberg lol .. Oh ya I forgot about The Fly 2
Interesting review, I think you'd probably like to see "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", make sure it's the 1978 version with Jeff Goldblum (pre-weigh-lifting), Veronica Cartwright, Donald Sutherland and Brooke Adams.
Great reaction and this is my favourite horror movie! I do agree they fall in love really quick but it worked for me because I thought the characters had chemistry right from the beginning of the film and for me personally I thought Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis's characters had endearing personalities which made the tragedy all the more heartbreaking in my opinion!
Cronenberg was one of the masters of horror/suspense in the late 70’s through the 80’s. Check out Scanners, The Brood, and especially The Dead Zone which is one of the very best Stephen King adaptations ever.
The tragedy is Seth is a product of his own failure in his experiment. That something so small would destroy such a passionate and intelligent man. But he would have never survived.
Excellent post. One of the few horror remakes worth watching. I thought casting Jeff Goldblum was an inspired choice. And I'm sure I'm not the first one to think you bear quite a resemblance to Kate Winslet.
So, at the end when you thought that was weak of her to not want to shoot him, I think you're overlooking the fact that he was no longer a monster attacking her. He was broken and torn apart and obviously in great pain. There was still a part of him in there as evidenced by the fact that he wanted to die. She wasn't killing a monster, she was putting someone she loved out of his misery as he was suffering. Very powerful moment. Hope you read this and rewatch that part and feel the moment the same way I did seeing it. Makes it a much more powerful ending to the movie.
I'd like to see you react to Hitchcock films... everyone does Psycho, but not really any others. My top 3 to recommend would be Rear Window (which is kind of like Sliver or that Shia Lebeuf one where he's stuck inside his house and all he can do is watch his neighbours), The Trouble with Harry (the only Hitchcock comedy where a guy dies, and nobody seems to care, but in a funny way) and/or Rope (where 2 guys commit a murder and then throw a party around the body). ... There's more great ones like Vertigo, The Birds, Psycho, North by Northwest, ... but I found those first 3 to be the most fun.
Greetings from New Jersey. Great reaction to a classic horror movie. You should really check out David Cronenberg’s other horror work like Scanners and The Brood. Keep up the great work with your channel.
PS: regarding the chemistry of Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis? They were in a relationship at the time of the film, and got married the following year, a marriage which lasted through the early 90s.
Than he was in Jurassic Park and saw Laura Dern and gave her his dino dna
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@@FINALFLASH1988Malcolm would have bound Seth to his bed to stop him going into the telepod.
The ‘80s was such a great decade, for remakes especially: like The Thing, The Fly, The Blob ...
Nobody bothers to make good remakes, anymore .. too much of a lazy reliance on CGI, there’s no creativity or passion
Good to see you doing a reaction to this, great choice of film
Thanks so much! And I definitely agree
Because most of these directors respected and cared about what came before. It was able to help them with their own vision of these films.
Also, Little Shop of Horrors in the 80s ... and in the early 2000s, Death Race and Pirahna. All remakes of old Roger Corman films.
An Oscar Winner for special make up effects. Chris Walas (Raiders Of The Lost Ark) was superb, as the rest of the crew and the movie itself.
Fun trivia: the original design for the telepods was gonna be just like a glass phone booth kinda design. But David Cronenberg wanted something more grounded in reality and machine-like and he chose the design after the engine of his 1976 duel cylinder Ducati motorcycle. 🤔🤓👍👍
One of those unexpected hits from the 80's. Nobody was expecting it to be as good as it was. Great movie.
"I'm a insect that dreamt he was a man... and loved it. But now the dream is over." -Brundle Fly
The Fly is a classic. Brilliant performance by Jeff Goldblum. Outstanding makeup effects.
they get goldblum for his face of course.....
@2:29 when he gets on the piano is ironic because he actually is a jazz musician in real life also. Just check out Jeff Goldblum vevo channel.
I first saw this in 1987 when I could rent it on video (I was 17 back then). For me this is Jeff Goldblum's best film. His acting is on point going from a meek, quiet genius, to an out of control mad scientist, to someone dealing with a disease (as he begins to transform) and finally becoming a literal monster--- and yet we can still feel and incredible amount of empathy for him at the end. And I believe this was due to Jeff Goldblum being just so charismatic when he was "normal." Seth Brundle is a tragic character in the classic sense- and his final death scene can still bring a tear to my eye to this day. Also due to being able to feel every ounce of Veronica's pain having to mercy kill him. Geena Davis' performance was fantastic. Poor Seth. All he wanted to do was create a new form of transportation because he suffered from motion sickness.
There is a deleted ending in which Veronica is clearly pregnant and has a dream about giving birth. Her normal looking baby sprouts butterfly wings and "flies away." The last shot is her asleep with a smile on her face so we get the impression she has made the decision to go through with the birth. So the "flying baby" effects which were practical and not CGI, looked ridiculous and it was the right decision to leave it out.
The ending they went with is perfect. And I agree, amazing performance by Goldblum
The telepod effects were optical effects, not cgi. Cgi didn't become a staple in effects till the mid-90's.
I was going to say the same thing, but didn't want to sound pedantic (don't worry, I don't think you are either). But I take her point that not relying on excessive optical effects was probably the smart thing to do.
Ahhh thanks so much. I’m definitely not educated on special effects enough. I’m way more tuned into the masters of practical effects like Tom Savini, Rick Baker, and Stan Winston. Anything that looks superimposed in my head just thinks “cgi”. I’ll have to research optical effects more.
@@ScaredPale Any movie made before '95 is gonna be using optical compositing, because that would have been the only option before cg. Only the big budget films had access to cg effects, or had maybe a couple of shots tops that were computer generated.
@@ScaredPale Optical effects are really interesting. As much as I long for the era of practical makeup, optical effects are generally obsolete and easily bested by modern CGI (in most cases anyway). I do however appreciate how ingenious many of those kinds of FX had to be.
CG was used to represent actual in-universe graphics on monitors and targeting computers, etc. since the70s. The first CG was in "Westworld" (1973) There's CG in original Star Wars on their targeting computers and and the "locker room" scene where they displayed the Death Star plans and outlined the attack plan. The first CG FX were spaceships in "The Last Starfighter" (1984) but looked like obvious CG. Most productions still used practical miniatures and hand drawn optical FX until the early 90's.
"There's Cronenberg!" got me laughing so much.
The Fly 2 is about the birth of their child! The original 1958 the Fly is also a good movie!
Loved the reaction, my first reaction video from you :) I must say you have the most gorgeous eyes, like classic Hollywood actress Betty Davis!
"God, don't touch him--something might fall off!" LOL!
The Fly 2 was not well received but it does have a following and I liked it. It answers a lot of your questions. The monster is one of the coolest practical creatures, being one of the last ones before CG creatures started becoming the norm.
(There's no "CG" FX in this movie. The blue gazappy light FX in the teleporters was old-school hand animated optical FX. The only CG were the graphics on his computer monitors and readouts)
As a fellow enjoyer of Fly 2, I admit it's not as good as the first, but the monster effects are a lot of fun (and surprisingly expressive at times).
Love Fly 2.. Chris Wallas FTW. Saw it on the big screen as a 14 yr old.
The tv commercial (ad) for “The Fly 2” used to give me nightmares. I always felt it creepy when they use lullaby music for horror films. I’ll never forget those altered lyrics. I avoided watching the 2nd movie for years just because of that ad.
“Hush little baby don’t be sad,
You’ll grow up to be like dad.
Hush little baby don’t you cry,
Just because your dad was the fly!!!”
😱😱😱😱😱
the original idea for the fly 2 was to have an anti abortion cult convince her to have the baby. they would start something similar to the hitler's youth league. the child would appear normal and also have this head full of really disturbing propaganda.
@@Re88eN That sounds terrifying enough without a monster...
I'm so glad you discovered David Cronenberg, and this film. This may all sound like hyperbole, but he really is one of the most important filmmakers of the past half century: Cronenberg considers all aspects of body horror, of the body's connection to the brain, and all of it's intruders. He considers the point of view of insects, disease, and bacteria... as living things, just like us, just trying to survive and make our way in the world. The Fly is not only my favorite horror movie, but one one my favorite love stories, and a tragedy which invites a myriad of interpretations each time you see it. The central metaphor can be read innumerably, as what it takes to remain in love in spite of aging, disease, mental illness, or (if you were watching at the time of The Fly's release) the AIDS epidemic. Not only that, but if you empathized all the way with Brundle's character, the idea of overcoming shyness, virginity, otherness... only to find death waiting for you on the other side. It's a very sad story, taken to it's farthest possible extreme, and performed note-perfect, as the most potent of modern grand-guignol shows. I hope you check out other Cronenberg stuff, but may I suggest holding off from Scanners for now? Scanners is well known, especially for one notorious effects scene, but it is also probably the weakest of Cronenberg's earlier films. The strongest of those would have to be The Brood, or Cronenberg's personal treatise on divorce, if you can believe that. Watch that, or maybe one of the later indisputable masterpieces, like Cronenberg's gynecological true-life melodrama Dead Ringers, or his one-of-a-kind literary adaptations of (the previously unadaptable) William Burroughs' Naked Lunch or James Ballard's Crash. Either way, welcome to the club. I will be checking in now and again, and very glad to have discovered your channel.
If any other movie director attempted this film it would have been silly. David Cronenberg was the absolutely right choice for the movie. The true master of body horror
The Fly is a work of genius because, leaving aside the entymological dimension, what happens to Brundle is a fate the majority of us will face. I love your reactions: you are super adorable. 😄🥰
When it comes to Stathis, you are looking at this through a very modern set of eyes, modern sensibilities; Yes, he's an arrogant, clingy jerkass, but remember that they were a couple, and when people live together, they get used to each others' flaws. As the film progresses, you do see he's still a good person who cares about her, despite those flaws. He tries to do the right thing by Veronica and goes to rescue her from Brundle.
Brundle's story is tragic, as his changes mirror those of someone with an addiction or mental disease like schizophrenia or dementia. His denial and mania clouds his judgement and makes him lash out at the person who cares about him when they try to help.
Ummm, no. Stathis is scum. Plain and simple.
Love this young lady"s reaction/reviews ,very articulate and insightful about all aspects of the film and film making, refreshing. Though it was not well recieved I remember the Fly 2 with Eric Stoltz as being worth a watch.
Crazy this movie is 35 years old, it still holds up today.
Her boss is a jerk but not exactly a bad guy. He helped her to deal with the situation. Gave her rational advices. She couldn't handle this all alone.
First reactor I would like to sit down and talk movies with. Good stuff. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
The 1978 Invasion of the Body Snatchers would be a good one to watch after this.
i am absolutely obsessed with this movie tbh. i wasn't expecting how emotional it'd make me, it was amazing.
Actually, Vincent Price wasn't the star of the original film The Fly, his was more of a supporting role. He was the only cast member to return for the sequel though.
When the Baboon came out of the teleporter and jumped in to seth's arms you said that's always been a dream of mine and i was like... yeah, mine too, teleportation would be awesome and then you said to hug a monkey, ha ha i did not expect that!
i was thinking she meant it was a dream to hug jeff goldblum lmao
If you like Jeff Goldblum in this there is a super campy Jeff in the adventures of buckaroo Banzai across the eight dimension, starring
Peter Weller (robocop)
Ellen Barkin (oceans 13)
John Lithgow (Dick Solomon from 3rd rock)
Jeff Goldblum (the Fly)
Christopher Lloyd (doc Brown)
The Fly 2 is one of the very few sequels that are actually good. Maybe not quite the level as the "original", but still a clever plot.
When I see Jeff Goldblum I always think of him in one of my favourite movies "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" (1978)
One of my favourite David Cronenberg movies is "The Dead Zone" (1983)
The Dead Zone is great!
Cronenberg is my favorite horror director and he has a very interesting filmography! His early films, through “Videodrome”, were pure body horror. Then he went Hollywood with “The Dead Zone” and “The Fly.” After this film he did a pair of critically acclaimed dramatic body horror films “Dead Ringers” and “Naked Lunch”. Then he did a handful of independent dramas/horror/surreal films before his Viggo Mortenson trilogy, of which “A History of Violence” and “Eastern Promises” were the best. His last 2 films with Robert Pattinson are interesting dramas but, despite the genre hopping, one thing I love about Cronenberg is how his films start out in worlds that make perfect sense and by the end things have fallen apart, usually accompanied by a ton of gore. Would love to see you react to more of his films!
I've seen all his films, been a fan since the 70s. A History of Violence is amazing! It's my favorite.
@@reesebn38 I love that one “Cronenberg” shot, the closeup of the guy with his jaw shot off 😂
History of Violence is incredibly great!!!
This movie traumatized me as a child. I had so many nightmares after watching this!
This is one of the finest horror films ever made.
a kind of horror movie like that needs more horror action like its in the mosquito man
You said her reaction at the end was "weak", when Brundlefly essentially asks her to shoot him. I think it's actually very human. There is a LOT to unpack....this was a man she fell in love with, who degenerated into a monster and slowly lost his humanity to the point that he tried to splice her, him and the baby together into some kind of horrific amalgamation....and if it had just been some inhuman monster than crawled out of that pod, I think she would have shot it in the head like she was about to....she paused because the emotion and horror of what she'd gone through was a lot for anyone to deal with.
And then he showed her that he wasn't JUST an inhuman monster. That there was actually just enough humanity left in him to want to die, and to ask for her to do it.
THAT is going to be a huge emotional kick, that she has to process and act upon quickly. And in the end she does. I don't think she was weak at all.
I think its kinda like bravery....being brave isn't not feeling fear. Being brave is being terrified to act but having the strength to do it anyway. I think her reaction is similar to that. In the end, she has the strength to overcome all the horror and anguish she's dealing with....and pull the trigger.
That’s fair. I like your description of bravery, very true
I wasn't sure which reaction video of this movie to watch, I'm so glad I picked yours! I enjoyed it a lot!
Thanks!!
Check out _Invasion of the Body Snatchers_ (1978) with Jeff Goldblum, Donald Sutherland and Leonard Nimoy. Another great remake.
Whenever a big fly gets into house I yell babe! Get the RAID! We got a brundlefly in here!
All this trauma could have easily been avoided with a big can of bug spray.
LOL!
Where's Adam West when you need him?
I don't want to watch that movie.
Your view on their romance is a very modern view... Also it's obvious you have never been caught up in a whirlwind romance. They rarely last long term but God it's a hell of a ride and has pretty much nothing to do with logic, shared interests, or even compatibility. It's an emotion and hormone driven force of nature.
yep, that was the guy from "Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead"
And she went to prison for life on the murder charge of the scientist 😆 LOL ...Outstanding reaction video 👍 📹 What I enjoy about your reactions is the research you've put into films , directors and actors.
Thanks! Appreciate it!
Wow! I watched this movie with my grandmother when I didn't know how to READ yet. I wasn't in school yet. I had no idea young Geena Davis was the main actress in this 😮😮😮😮 i just found out now! She later became on of my favorite actesses. My mind is BLOWN!
It's official - flies have the power surging through them!
To address the Cronenberg body horror question: yes, the pace and feel of his films differ depending on the movie. You can compare Shivers to Dead Ringers and the latter is far more subdued and methodical.
Great analysis! I love this film because it's also a metaphor for some relentless deteriorating condition (like terminal cancer, dementia, etc.) How does one cope with the reality of that? We see Seth go through the stages of acceptance: denial, anger, depression, bargaining, and acceptance.
Next to The Fly my favorite Cronenberg film is Dead Ringers, about twin gynecologists starring Jeremy Irons. It too, is tragic but enthralling and entirely original.
that " Be afraid, be very afraid" was the tagline for the movie
Goldblum got an Oscar nomination for this.
Chris Walas (creature creator) directed the sequel (not as great as this one but it was cool)
something I noticed the first time I watched it (in an actual theater)...
not sure if it was on purpose but like in the original, where the wife killed him by destroying his head with an industrial press, Veronica killed him by destroying his head with a shotgun.
The Fly 2 is VERY much worth a watch, if not a reaction.
The Dead Zone was a fantastic Cronenberg film I highly recommend.
Your reaction in 19:08 was the best of the whole video 😂… same as my mother’s and my girlfriend’s
Jeff and Geena had so much chemistry that they got married. Although they didn't last too long together
I saw that after! Bummer. But they seem happy now so we’ll just have to let their chemistry live on in their films
The sequel was directed by Chris Walas, who was behind the creature effects in this film (CWI - Chris Walas Inc.).
As soon as you mentioned the motion sickness and teleportation, my mind immediately went to Independance Day. "Air Force One and still you get air sickness. Look at me. I'm like a rock. It could be good weather. It could be bad weather. It doesn't matter. We could go backwards. We could go forwards. We could go side-to-side." ... A fly that doesn't like to fly. ... I never made the connection until now.
Yes! And in Jurassic park I think he mentions having car sickness. So crazy!
My favourite Cronenberg movie is The Brood. Would love to see your reaction to it.
Seth: What's happening to me, am I dying?
Me: At this point, you wish you were dying.
Sometimes movies should indicate how much time has passed from one scene to the next but they rarely do. It seemed a few months went by before and during their romance, leading up to his odd jealous reaction by going through the telepods without her being there
the original is also worth watching. same concept, different execution.
It won the Oscar for Best Makeup!
It's also said that the film is an allegory for AIDS, ad David Cronenberg said in an interview, 'If you and your lover have AIDS, then you should watch this movie, knowing how deadly and incurable this disease really is, and how it can affect your family, friends, and loved ones."
Jeff Goldblum is an accomplished jazz pianist.
And he plays piano in just about every movie and tv show he's in lol.
One thing though. He knew she was a journalist at the freakin' party. And then...'I never would've told this stuff to a journalist'. Like wtf? U say u like Geena. Check out The Long Kiss Goodnight.
Before I even watched a whole video I subscribed as soon as I saw the Planet of the Apes picture on your wall.
Also check out THE FLY II (1989).
There are few horror movies that have such a strong emotional impact as this one. It's one of the ultimate body horror movies. It's not just terrifying, it's also touching and tragic. Imo Jeff Goldblum delivered his best performance to date in this movie. The sequel is not terrible, but rather forgettable.
Chris Walas who did the FX also did the design and FX on GREMLINS. Cronenberg did a fun acting turn in Clive Barker's NIGHTBREED (see the directors cut if you can), and he has a fun cameo at the start of JASON X.
Everything that happened in this movie was because it was late and Seth was drunk. A whole new meaning to impaired driving.
A great film. One of my fave Cronenberg movies along with Videodrome and Dead Ringers, You should check the original made in the 50s as well.
And this ending, THIS ending is one of the best horror endings.
"There's Cronenberg." Yup. Great movie. :)
Wow you're so right about Stathis, he did kinda stop the whole wanting to be with her and just really wanted to help her thru this nightmare. Also him and Brundle kinda switching roles was a crazy twist for sure, great review!!!!
Thanks! Yeah what a character arc
@@ScaredPale I subscribed to you because of this review 🤗
@@ILLUSIONFUSION1 Eyy thanks so much!
@@ScaredPale The Fly, The Exorcist, Audition, are some very dark movies to sit through.
Love so many things about this movie, and Cronenberg in general. I'd say watch Scanners next, as its an early Cronenberg, but if you're a fan of the surrealism of Videodrome, I think you're gonna like eXistenZ, if you haven't already seen it.
There is a version of Spider-man that is a giant spider after being mutated further.
And for Cronenberg I would suggest Scanners, Rabid and The Dead Zone. Also as an actor in Nightbreed.
🎬Another name for the "Fly II" could be Redemption. As with the original version of F2, the attempt was to redeem some sense of dignity and humanity left with the very sad and unfortunate legacy of Seth Brundle. A descent man, who simply wanted to revolutionize the well-being of humankind ...not destroy it!
🎬For me, the significant line in the film to describe the eerie, bone-chilling psychology of Seth Brundle (Brundlefly) was, "I'm saying I'm an insect who dreamt he was a man and loved it. But now the dream is over and the insect is awake." It reminded me that, however primitive, a fly does have a mind/brain. And for evolutionary survival a fly's DNA is more dynamic, aggressive and dominant than that of a human. And just like the body, the fly was also taking over the mind. In a way, Gina Davis' character didn't realize she was talking to 2 "people".
🎬Btw, if you haven't seen Stephen King's "The Dead Zone" '83, put it on your list. Arguably Cronenberg's best work. I really think you'll love it!🖖🏾
I love that line in the film. He really is such a tragic character. I’ll have to check out the sequel eventually!
As others have, I also recommend "Fly II." It delves more deeply into the corporate aspects of this, as the company Brundle was working for finds out what he was doing secretly and tries to capitalize on it, a la Weyland-Yutani in the later "Alien" movies. Davis does give birth to Brundle's child, and saying anything else would give too much away. It's not as dark as this one, but the villain is much more easily defined. I also recommend "The Howling," which I found better than "American Werewolf in London," which came out around the same time. Its mood is darker and more foreboding, with a much better cast, and the score's much creepier.
The Make Artists won the Oscar for best Make-up effects in 1987.
Another good movie is called, "Mimic".
This movie ranked at #33 in the 100 scariest movie moments on Bravo
I can't believe you watched this on a holiday when people are known to stuff themselves with unhealthy food. I admire your daring. XD
My mother watched this movie all the time. I was so scared and disgusted when he morphed 😩🤣
It's crazy how movies our parents watch growing up stay with us!
Jeff and Geena were also in Transylvania 6500.A movie I think they'd rather forget.I believe that's where they first met before marrying...
A recommendation for another David Cronenberg film is the film he did after this. Dead Ringers is one of his best, I think.
Your reaction at 26:39 is adorable! 😅 x x x x
my favorite Cronenburg is Videodrome by far (keep in mind I'm a total deviant) which unfortunately stars James Woods but he's really good in it and it has some weird interesting things to say about the self in relation to what we consume! It gets extremely otherworldly and trippy at the end and is open for interpretation imo plus it lowkey predicted twitter
What do u mean, "unfortunately"?
Cronenberg is in the movie Night Breed by Clive Barker. Great director, great actor
Only question I have is.. what if he did the teleportation at the end and ended up with a superior human. Guess we'll never know.. thanks Cronenberg lol .. Oh ya I forgot about The Fly 2
Cronenberg is one of the great directors.
Oh boy this one's a doozy a pinnacle in body horror. Seth's transformation scenes are absolutely insane.
Interesting review, I think you'd probably like to see "Invasion Of The Body Snatchers", make sure it's the 1978 version with Jeff Goldblum (pre-weigh-lifting), Veronica Cartwright, Donald Sutherland and Brooke Adams.
Great reaction and this is my favourite horror movie! I do agree they fall in love really quick but it worked for me because I thought the characters had chemistry right from the beginning of the film and for me personally I thought Jeff Goldblum and Geena Davis's characters had endearing personalities which made the tragedy all the more heartbreaking in my opinion!
I agree, though the romance is quick ya can’t beat their chemistry!
Nice video this is one of my top ten favorite movies and I agree with you that stathis actually had a decent character arc
I love when movies surprise you like that with his character
Denise Cronenberg was David's sister.
That's definitely the guy from don't tell mom the babysitters dead you are correct
Cronenberg was one of the masters of horror/suspense in the late 70’s through the 80’s. Check out Scanners, The Brood, and especially The Dead Zone which is one of the very best Stephen King adaptations ever.
The dead zone is really good!
And what I really love about this movie? The creepy ex-boyfriend is the hero! Didn't see THAT coming!
I agree!!!
The tragedy is Seth is a product of his own failure in his experiment. That something so small would destroy such a passionate and intelligent man. But he would have never survived.
Excellent post. One of the few horror remakes worth watching. I thought casting Jeff Goldblum was an inspired choice. And I'm sure I'm not the first one to think you bear quite a resemblance to Kate Winslet.
So, at the end when you thought that was weak of her to not want to shoot him, I think you're overlooking the fact that he was no longer a monster attacking her. He was broken and torn apart and obviously in great pain. There was still a part of him in there as evidenced by the fact that he wanted to die. She wasn't killing a monster, she was putting someone she loved out of his misery as he was suffering. Very powerful moment. Hope you read this and rewatch that part and feel the moment the same way I did seeing it. Makes it a much more powerful ending to the movie.
"I wonder why he told her?"
Well, look at her.
I'd like to see you react to Hitchcock films... everyone does Psycho, but not really any others. My top 3 to recommend would be Rear Window (which is kind of like Sliver or that Shia Lebeuf one where he's stuck inside his house and all he can do is watch his neighbours), The Trouble with Harry (the only Hitchcock comedy where a guy dies, and nobody seems to care, but in a funny way) and/or Rope (where 2 guys commit a murder and then throw a party around the body). ... There's more great ones like Vertigo, The Birds, Psycho, North by Northwest, ... but I found those first 3 to be the most fun.
You should check out "Naked Lunch" by Cronenburg.
I really like your reactions. :)
Thanks so much!
If you like being scared then " Event Horizon" will certainly do that 😉
Greetings from New Jersey. Great reaction to a classic horror movie. You should really check out David Cronenberg’s other horror work like Scanners and The Brood. Keep up the great work with your channel.
Scanners is definitely on the list! Thanks!