That’s the beauty of this car. You can drive slow and have a blast. I drive within reason and have fun. Just now I have the power to put the car where it needs to be on command.
@@audhen1 oh yeah. Miata’s can take turns like crazy, for sure. And like I said I’m sure they’re really fun. It’s just the low HP and lack of a turbo that turns me off. I drive a focus ST, so my car isn’t FAST fast, but it feels fast enough with around 300whp
The soft top design is a really great piece of engineering. Much easier to operate than the earlier generations, and with a single latch and easier to reach over the shoulder, awesome.
i had a brand new 2021 mx-5 as a rental on the gulf coast of Florida in February 2021 , i fell in love with it. it wasn't fast but holy cow was it one of the most fun cars ever. i fondly remember the absolute joy i encountered while driving..
My friend just traded his 1989 Honda Prelude for a 1990 Miata and the first thing he did with it was drift it and do donuts and he got the cops called within 5 minutes. Such a fun car, it’s like a street legal gokart. 😂😂
As an owner of the basic sport trim that doesn’t have coilovers, nor LSD, this thing STILL grips in corners. It’s extra fun when you just push it past its limits and get a little slide in🤩
@@cactiiimusicbruh it’s hard to. the damn thing just sticks to the road like glue especially with good summer tires. I take 15 mph turns at like 45 😂 the real fun is when you throw some snow tires on in the winter
I had a NA for many years. I’m impressed with how the 2021 GT retains the original concept and makes it better. The 2.0L Skyactiv and 6 speed is sweet!! 🤩
Manual transmission, manual roof, rwd and lightweight. Glad Mazda stuck with it. If the youngsters of the future will love cars, this will be on the list. One of the few
Can confirm! Haha went from driving turbocharged hatch backs to this and my god it’s just such a joy to drive. I live in a very hilly/mountainous area with great weather so it’s just perfect.
My sister has a 2009 Mazda 3 SP25 with 175hp, it is fantastic feels super quick and zippy around town. 180hp would be perfect in a miata, plenty for having some fun
I was having the same conversation with my car friends. They all have overly modified car, turbos, etc. I drive my Miata stock and keep it that way. Everything about this car from factory is everything I've wanted in purchasing my first vehicle. During conversation, I told them: "Yeah, you guys could probably take me on a straight, but let's hit up a track where it's only roundabouts" 😂
@@tanakax25 Go ahead and skip the big brakes. They look cool, but every Miata since the NC has had big enough brakes to work well even with a V8 swap. Small is light. Just get appropriate pads and fluid the the type of driving you plan to do. Suspension is good, though. Spend as much as you can afford on the dampers. Cheap coilovers can get you pretty good performance on the track, but kill you on the street. Getting the balance of ride and handling is where the money is. But a Miata on good suspension is completely untouchable and worth every cent.
@@JETZcorp good coilovers still ride fine on the street. It ain't a cadillac, but unless you only drive on dirt roads or your municipality simply doesn't take car of their roads; it's really exaggerated how uncomfortable it is. I live in a patch town, so the roads are so-so, and my NB has VERY stiff suspension, but I still don't find it uncomfortable. Might change with some poly diff bushings and bucket seats, but I'll find that out the hard way pretty quick here. Sure isn't as comfortable as my beater, but it would feel weird if it was with how reactive and alive the steering is.
Considering the Miata was never designed for drag racing, it makes sense it’s not fast. But what other car can take tight corners without using the brakes?
Only bad thing about these cars is if you are over 6 foot, you probably aren't driving one on a track with a helmet on because you'll be too tall (depending on torso length). This is why for a track build, probably a modded BRZ is a better platform - stiffer, its got a roof, taller, you can add bhp but physically making a car larger is hard to do. There's things you can do to make yourself fit... but yeah, a bigger car is a bigger car. For road use? Mx-5 is always the answer. And top down motoring is more fun.
Pull on the shift lever slightly before shifting to make the gear *pop* out, it lets you get into second MUCH FASTER. You are currently granny shifting it which is where you shift like you would going to the grocery store but at redline.
Id love to test drive a newer miata. Ive only driven my 92 which has been my daily for almost 10 years now and i love the car. Cant think of a more affordable car that is an abesoultely blast to drive.
@@ayi_oglu_ayianti gravity battery/race batteries made usually without liquid with powders etc and are made of a eerily small form factor for the power they can produce, gotta love modern tech! *they’re not actually anti gravity it’s just the name*
I live in japan. Today I chased down a 2L roadster with my 0.66L Kei van like it was nothing. Even though the design of the car makes it look like a fast sports car, it's actually too slow. I had an NB8C and it was so much fun to drive though.
Still annoying that they removed the glove box. Of course on my 5 Miatas that I have owned, it was the glove box that rattled the most. Not the 2 behind the seats or the middle ones.
The steering feel is amazing. The car is SO light that you can toss it around like a go-kart. Plus the top down, amazing shifter, its a great experience.
Funny fact: The stock ND2 miata is faster 0-60 than a stock S2000 while also "feeling" faster due to less weight and lower center of gravity. So if anyone says the ND2 is slow, its just "herd mentality" at this point and its cool to say miata's are slow. Bonus fact: you cant say that the higher redline makes a grand difference when, back then, it was believed that higher RPM was necessary to stretch your gearing out further and to maximise power, and in turn, speed... but now a greater understanding in peak engine efficiency, power-to-weight ratios and proper gearing allows cars with lower max RPMs to accelerate faster by stretching your power along a wider rpm range allowing for more power across a wider range of RPMs(such as EXACTLY where your RPMs are going to be between each shift) rather than only ever getting into your peak power for a short time between shifts. Which is what the S2k suffered from in the AP1 and was somewhat fixed in the AP2. But 9k rpms in the now-inferior AP1 does have coolness factor that even I myself still want 😂 But I'd still take the ND2 without a second thought. Lighter, stiffer chassis, faster, kinmatic posture control, more road feedback, and a greater torque-to-weight ratio, cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, cheap and abundant mods. Its a landslide win for the ND2.
Exactly. I have driven many cars and for fun the smartest choice is the Miata. Also, it's the car I would want to drive on the streets when it's not winter if I wanted to avoid a road hazard with a quick evasion maneuver or braking.
The Miata is plenty fast enough for 95% of people. It's not a str8 line car, it's a moderate speed corner car. That's where the Miata shines and that's where you should be testing it, not on a city street.
Not to mention a basic tune with minor upgrades and a roar pedal (or any kind of instant feedback pedal mod) will unlock a whole new potential without requiring forced induction mods!
How many ounces/grams would a glove compartment add ? Surely not that much in a cabin that needs more storage, even if it’s a very small slot or bin style compartment. Wondering if cupholders could be built in to the lower door panels. 🤷♂️🤔💡 The Zoom-Zoom would still be there after adding a few ounces or grams here or there for better ergonomics. 🌬️💨😃💪👍.
The side windows are drilled below seals to save a bit more weight. That's why the RF is not popular. Too heavy. The 1.5 is even lighter than the original na. But it's fun factor is off the scale.
no need to... s2k had 240hp, but the motor was gutless below 5000rpm... and was heavier. If you want a fast car, you dont buy a miata in the first place.
The car is slow because it's made for the track. It has a small light engine so can rail around around corners and not have to worry about slowing down to much
If this car had around 250hp, and was a bit more aggressive looking, it would be a dream car. I went with a 380hp F-Type. Maybe not quite as fun around the twisty bits, but it's fast, stunning to look at, and still really fun to drive!
@lalito1560 I've driven the R. It's great. But the one I found was in Firesand orange, and was in great condition. I couldn't pass it up. It's still a lot of fun to drive. I don't regret it one bit, and if I want almost 500hp, I can always tune it.
You are suppose to run the rpms high in engines like these . Remember Mazda had a rotary engine, they know people like to rev the engines in this class of car.
It's okay. The best engine for boost is the one from the late NB Miatas. That had the iron block and over-built internals of the old engine, in it's biggest strongest form, with the best heads. The later NC and ND engines will easily produce big horsepower, but the stock bottom-ends aren't as strong. The NC engine is starting to get a good aftermarket for building one up, but it's still pretty early days for these Skyactiv engines in the ND. Plus the ridiculously high compression is a limitation on the Skyactiv.
no it doesn't. It's high compression, along with limited fuel delivery, means you'd need to build a motor and fuel delivery even before you hit 300HP. And by that point, tranny will blow itself to pieces because its made of glass. Just get a more tunable car as a base, if you want that.
IDC if the car is slow it's fun as Hell
Chad
not even slow, 180 hp at 1000 kg is great
@@4ae109 would u say the same for the 86/BRZ?
@@chimkinnugget5221 yes
That’s the beauty of this car. You can drive slow and have a blast. I drive within reason and have fun. Just now I have the power to put the car where it needs to be on command.
It may not be insanely fast but it feels incredibly nimble, the engine sounds raw and amazing, and it is such a unique driving experience
Its as fast as an s2000 but the ND2/3 has more usable torque. Basically its better than an s2000 in every way.
@jrod1577 well, besides the 9k redline, there's not much else that has that from factory.
And its a manual too 😍
it is better to drive a slow car to its full potential than to drive a fast car minimizing its capacity.
❤
It isn’t close to being a fast car honestly. A lot of fun though I’m sure
@@jacobwilkinson6112 depends on the driver. on my daily b- and c-roads I kill every porsche in the corners. on the straights i lose
@@audhen1 oh yeah. Miata’s can take turns like crazy, for sure. And like I said I’m sure they’re really fun. It’s just the low HP and lack of a turbo that turns me off. I drive a focus ST, so my car isn’t FAST fast, but it feels fast enough with around 300whp
I have a corvette c5 from 2002 modified to have about 400hp and thats way faster and i can drive that to its full potential
The soft top design is a really great piece of engineering. Much easier to operate than the earlier generations, and with a single latch and easier to reach over the shoulder, awesome.
This soft top design puts to shame Porsche, Ferrari, and McLaren.
i had a brand new 2021 mx-5 as a rental on the gulf coast of Florida in February 2021 , i fell in love with it. it wasn't fast but holy cow was it one of the most fun cars ever. i fondly remember the absolute joy i encountered while driving..
My friend just traded his 1989 Honda Prelude for a 1990 Miata and the first thing he did with it was drift it and do donuts and he got the cops called within 5 minutes. Such a fun car, it’s like a street legal gokart. 😂😂
Hey bro, please what makes a car fun to drive? Thanks
the real fun starts when ur on curvy roads
As an owner myself 😊
As an owner of the basic sport trim that doesn’t have coilovers, nor LSD, this thing STILL grips in corners. It’s extra fun when you just push it past its limits and get a little slide in🤩
@@cactiiimusicbruh it’s hard to. the damn thing just sticks to the road like glue especially with good summer tires. I take 15 mph turns at like 45 😂 the real fun is when you throw some snow tires on in the winter
@@cactiiimusic don't feel bad I got the sport too
💯 % I just drove mine from Kiama Australia through curvy roads via Jamberoo
Amazing fun
180hp is quite a bit on a light small car
A lotus elise, hailed as one of the most fun cars ever, is 160hp
@@Grayxyzyeah this is only like 100kg heavier then a lotus but the lotus is a little to raw for the road.
For usa it isnt it seems. Most normal hatchback etc cars in europe are in the 80-150hp range
I had a NA for many years. I’m impressed with how the 2021 GT retains the original concept and makes it better. The 2.0L Skyactiv and 6 speed is sweet!! 🤩
Manual transmission, manual roof, rwd and lightweight. Glad Mazda stuck with it. If the youngsters of the future will love cars, this will be on the list. One of the few
I'm 52 and love it. My son was a little sceptical at first but when he was behind the wheel he was convinced. He is 27😅
That seats gonna get stretchy af
They dont, mine has 90k miles on it still good seats just take care of the leather
The car is ment for slender ppl not ppl with the bmi of a boulder
Its the rear of the seat not the cushion under your ass lol
Also leather really doesnt stretch much...
the seats have no cushion, but a special fabric. like a hammock.
No
I gotta fiatta and I adore it. So sporty and fun
Love my Abarth...
Same here. Slower than the nd by a margin, but looks so much better and sounds better!
I’ve had seven Miatas. It’s all I drive. Does fine in Winter with proper tires and some extra weight in the trunk. 💜
Just got my miata today I love it
181 on what is basically the weight equivalent of a loaded shopping trolley.. that thing looks hilariously fun to drive.
Can confirm! Haha went from driving turbocharged hatch backs to this and my god it’s just such a joy to drive. I live in a very hilly/mountainous area with great weather so it’s just perfect.
I have to question the sanity of anyone who would remove a cup holder to save weight on a Miata.
What do you mean only 180hp? My car has one of the sportier engines availible with a whopping 90hp
the weight is the really factor, semi trucks have like 500 horsepower but you don’t see them racing, well they do, just the delivery time really
What car is that!?
especially when he short shifts...
@@franko8572Maybe first gen Miata. Lol
@@drewrich1048 the original mx5 had 115😂😂 alot suvs n small cars dont push past 100 hp or they scrape past it a lot of cars have tiny hp figures
bro ripped the fuck out of the shifter goddamn 💀
Hugely like it was some clay chunk
You should see how the cup drivers shift with the nd😂😂
Its made to be very positive when you engage with it. So you literally can shove it in and its built for it :)
that wasn't really a very fast shift. Didn't even chirp 2nd gear
He was PUSHING
I want one of these so bad. Dope little convertible
YESS I LOVEE MIATAAAAAA
Go-carts are slow too, but still fun as hell!
My sister has a 2009 Mazda 3 SP25 with 175hp, it is fantastic feels super quick and zippy around town. 180hp would be perfect in a miata, plenty for having some fun
I was having the same conversation with my car friends. They all have overly modified car, turbos, etc. I drive my Miata stock and keep it that way. Everything about this car from factory is everything I've wanted in purchasing my first vehicle.
During conversation, I told them: "Yeah, you guys could probably take me on a straight, but let's hit up a track where it's only roundabouts" 😂
Stock is reliable! The most I think I'll ever do is big brakes and suspension when I finally get one.
@@tanakax25 Go ahead and skip the big brakes. They look cool, but every Miata since the NC has had big enough brakes to work well even with a V8 swap. Small is light. Just get appropriate pads and fluid the the type of driving you plan to do.
Suspension is good, though. Spend as much as you can afford on the dampers. Cheap coilovers can get you pretty good performance on the track, but kill you on the street. Getting the balance of ride and handling is where the money is. But a Miata on good suspension is completely untouchable and worth every cent.
"Custom parts, custom problems."
@@JETZcorp good coilovers still ride fine on the street. It ain't a cadillac, but unless you only drive on dirt roads or your municipality simply doesn't take car of their roads; it's really exaggerated how uncomfortable it is. I live in a patch town, so the roads are so-so, and my NB has VERY stiff suspension, but I still don't find it uncomfortable. Might change with some poly diff bushings and bucket seats, but I'll find that out the hard way pretty quick here. Sure isn't as comfortable as my beater, but it would feel weird if it was with how reactive and alive the steering is.
@anthonymullings8539 I said cheap coilovers beat you up. Emphasis on cheap. I have Ohlins on my NC and it rides great.
Miata is stylish, i love em
I’ve had my ND2 for about three months. It’s not the speed. It’s how it handles in the turns. It’s so fun to drive.
Will forever love an mx5, so much character fun little cars
Considering the Miata was never designed for drag racing, it makes sense it’s not fast. But what other car can take tight corners without using the brakes?
Plus the power to weight ratio is almost perfectly balanced on the NC model, I have a NC3 6 speed manual, the best car I’ve ever owned
"only 180" i remember as a kid being amazed by some cars having a massive 120 lmao
Only bad thing about these cars is if you are over 6 foot, you probably aren't driving one on a track with a helmet on because you'll be too tall (depending on torso length). This is why for a track build, probably a modded BRZ is a better platform - stiffer, its got a roof, taller, you can add bhp but physically making a car larger is hard to do. There's things you can do to make yourself fit... but yeah, a bigger car is a bigger car. For road use? Mx-5 is always the answer. And top down motoring is more fun.
Pull on the shift lever slightly before shifting to make the gear *pop* out, it lets you get into second MUCH FASTER. You are currently granny shifting it which is where you shift like you would going to the grocery store but at redline.
Still giggled tho 😏
It's my dream car!
Remember, Miata is always the answer ….
bro said “only 181 horsepower”
the og miata is hurting from this
If mazda miata is slow i dont even want to mind about that, a mazda miata really looked like a super cute car
Id love to test drive a newer miata. Ive only driven my 92 which has been my daily for almost 10 years now and i love the car. Cant think of a more affordable car that is an abesoultely blast to drive.
I really miss my 1999😢
stage 1 or 2 on miata easily raises hp and torque in 220 territory and it really punches.
Drove a 300-310 who Miata. It definitely punched weight is crazy factor.
you needs cams and headers to get any additional power out of these. a software flash will gain you nothin'
Looks like a fun ride!
And you can also switch the battery to one that weighs 1/3 of the weight.
What?
@@ayi_oglu_ayianti gravity battery/race batteries made usually without liquid with powders etc and are made of a eerily small form factor for the power they can produce, gotta love modern tech! *they’re not actually anti gravity it’s just the name*
Damn didnt know that. Will put this on my 19 rf when i get a replacement
love Mazda Miata ❤😊
I live in japan. Today I chased down a 2L roadster with my 0.66L Kei van like it was nothing. Even though the design of the car makes it look like a fast sports car, it's actually too slow. I had an NB8C and it was so much fun to drive though.
"it wasnt that fast" but giggles 😂
It’s literally the GOAT
The ND seats feel really great ngl
Miata is the only car where taking out yhe cupholder makes a difference
Not to mention the head rests have speakers
Compared to my old NB my ND feels like a rocket ship lmao
All the power all the time
This thing is not slow at all. 0-60 in under 6 seconds is pretty quick. Sure not as quick as a type r but not far behind
Still annoying that they removed the glove box. Of course on my 5 Miatas that I have owned, it was the glove box that rattled the most. Not the 2 behind the seats or the middle ones.
Can someone please explain to me the love of these cars? What makes people want them so much? I seriously want to know
The steering feel is amazing. The car is SO light that you can toss it around like a go-kart. Plus the top down, amazing shifter, its a great experience.
@@ttoommssmmiitthh I get it now, thank you
My '91 NA is probably making 80hp at this point. :(
Fast cars aren't fun on normal roads because you cant even get to high rpms without hitting somebody or getting scared for your life 😂
My dream car
Funny fact: The stock ND2 miata is faster 0-60 than a stock S2000 while also "feeling" faster due to less weight and lower center of gravity.
So if anyone says the ND2 is slow, its just "herd mentality" at this point and its cool to say miata's are slow.
Bonus fact: you cant say that the higher redline makes a grand difference when, back then, it was believed that higher RPM was necessary to stretch your gearing out further and to maximise power, and in turn, speed... but now a greater understanding in peak engine efficiency, power-to-weight ratios and proper gearing allows cars with lower max RPMs to accelerate faster by stretching your power along a wider rpm range allowing for more power across a wider range of RPMs(such as EXACTLY where your RPMs are going to be between each shift) rather than only ever getting into your peak power for a short time between shifts. Which is what the S2k suffered from in the AP1 and was somewhat fixed in the AP2.
But 9k rpms in the now-inferior AP1 does have coolness factor that even I myself still want 😂
But I'd still take the ND2 without a second thought. Lighter, stiffer chassis, faster, kinmatic posture control, more road feedback, and a greater torque-to-weight ratio, cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, cheap and abundant mods. Its a landslide win for the ND2.
Exactly. I have driven many cars and for fun the smartest choice is the Miata. Also, it's the car I would want to drive on the streets when it's not winter if I wanted to avoid a road hazard with a quick evasion maneuver or braking.
The Miata is plenty fast enough for 95% of people. It's not a str8 line car, it's a moderate speed corner car. That's where the Miata shines and that's where you should be testing it, not on a city street.
Mazda listen. Make a v6 option. Many, many guys say it is underpowered.
I wish mazda would put their 2.5T motor in it
They should take their 2.5 and tuned it for N/A power. Still loads more torque and power (could easily make ~230HP) with almost no weight penalty.
the miata doesn’t need that much power like everyone says. the weight of the car makes up for the power output.
Not to mention a basic tune with minor upgrades and a roar pedal (or any kind of instant feedback pedal mod) will unlock a whole new potential without requiring forced induction mods!
The true continuation to the NB (Mk2)
Your shifting is bad, that's why it wasn't ''too fast''. 180 is plenty power for a small light car
I wish they made a turbo version. We already know how powerful the 2.5 turbo is. Although its power and needs changing for a Miata
Mazda Miata gets a 5.5 second 0-60 and that’s pretty fast imo
Laughs in 100hp NA
My Mazda 2 sport and I absolutely love it!
you guys are getting 100?? 😢
65hp Golf, you're good bud
You didn't rev it out do you even miata bro
😂 Meh. When you have 330 hp, you really don’t need to rev it out. My peak torque is 3000-5700. Anything 5800 we’re tapering off on TQ.
@@BoostedNDMiata we made 276 on a 1.6 at 7800 at only 15psi
How many ounces/grams would a glove compartment add ?
Surely not that much in a cabin that needs more storage, even if it’s a very small slot or bin style compartment.
Wondering if cupholders could be built in to the lower door panels.
🤷♂️🤔💡
The Zoom-Zoom would still be there after adding a few ounces or grams here or there for better ergonomics.
🌬️💨😃💪👍.
Imagine a 6.2L LS3 engine under the hood of that ND Miata?
The side windows are drilled below seals to save a bit more weight.
That's why the RF is not popular.
Too heavy.
The 1.5 is even lighter than the original na.
But it's fun factor is off the scale.
Just boost it to 300 and you’ll have a blast while also fearing for your life every so often.
Wow that 10-25 mph pull was sick
Just keep in mind, the NC motor is a ticking time bomb. You will need to replace it with a bolt in Ford Fusion engine.
If you love 181 hp…. You’ll lose your mind with ~330 hp 😂
Aaaand lose your reliability 😅
@@tanakax25 not necessarily
@@sirswervington5768 not necessarily, but generally.
@@sirswervington5768 I'm not saying your reliability goes completely out the window though 😅
@@tanakax25 turbos aren't new technology. They can be pretty reliable
Better to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow
I turbocharged mine, now its fast
I’m really surprised they haven’t upped the hp considering the Honda s2k has 240hp at the crank. Roughly 210to the wheels.
no need to... s2k had 240hp, but the motor was gutless below 5000rpm... and was heavier.
If you want a fast car, you dont buy a miata in the first place.
i like MIATA
I had the red one (nd) I like more the new Integra I have.
The car is slow because it's made for the track. It has a small light engine so can rail around around corners and not have to worry about slowing down to much
“That wasn’t too fast, *Tee hee* “
If this car had around 250hp, and was a bit more aggressive looking, it would be a dream car.
I went with a 380hp F-Type. Maybe not quite as fun around the twisty bits, but it's fast, stunning to look at, and still really fun to drive!
Should've gone for the R
@lalito1560 I've driven the R. It's great. But the one I found was in Firesand orange, and was in great condition. I couldn't pass it up. It's still a lot of fun to drive. I don't regret it one bit, and if I want almost 500hp, I can always tune it.
You can tune this to 250hp.
there’s no way that’s how you shift your gears
I almost bought a miata. I rented one for 3 days, then i bought an 86. The power wasn't the problem. There's just not enough interior space.
So what you’re saying is the seats have *negative* lumbar support
driving down by USC. Recognize those streets anywhere
Does the cupholder save that much weight? 🤣
saves space, miatas are smol
😂
You are suppose to run the rpms high in engines like these . Remember Mazda had a rotary engine, they know people like to rev the engines in this class of car.
Man if my Kizashi with 185hp felt fast, cant imagine this tiny thing with 181 lmao
When you ONLY have 180hp ...
*Looks back at my 70hp Toyota glovebox*
Bruh ....
Bro went 0-20 in 5.6 seconds
What happens when the leather stretches out and your back is resting on the metal frame?
It's plenty fast, and you are missing shifts.
Why can't Americans shift manual gear.? 😳
What Mazda Model is Thai?
ND
Nd2 Mx5
The manual roof cover is goated. Weighs less, cheaper, less breaking points, and its faster.
Glove box is right behind you gang …
good
New engine prolly handle a nice amount of boost!
It's okay. The best engine for boost is the one from the late NB Miatas. That had the iron block and over-built internals of the old engine, in it's biggest strongest form, with the best heads. The later NC and ND engines will easily produce big horsepower, but the stock bottom-ends aren't as strong. The NC engine is starting to get a good aftermarket for building one up, but it's still pretty early days for these Skyactiv engines in the ND. Plus the ridiculously high compression is a limitation on the Skyactiv.
no it doesn't. It's high compression, along with limited fuel delivery, means you'd need to build a motor and fuel delivery even before you hit 300HP. And by that point, tranny will blow itself to pieces because its made of glass. Just get a more tunable car as a base, if you want that.
only 180? thats still quite a bit my golf only has 140, its quite a step up
Man a turbo would MAKE this car. Just put the turbo in from the Mazda 3. 250hp would turn this into a real sports car