4 Ordinary Pokémon That Got Crazy Buffs! [Pokémon Emerald Elite Redux] (v1.6)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In a game where powerful new mega evolutions and primal forms run wild we have to take a look at some of the overlooked Pokémon that have benefited greatly from having 4 abilities at once and new moves. Marowak Vikavolt Bastiodon and Rampardos are Pokémon that in the normal games are outclassed but in Emerald Elite Redux they get a chance to shine.
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Big thanks to the EER Discord for helping me find these Pokémon! - discord.gg/eliteredux I'll see y'all in there!
Also I will be trying to Upload 2 videos a week and there will be a new video on Friday 🎉🎉
Shore up isn’t a new move. It’s pallosand’s signature move.
I’d actually love to see more vids where you cover more Pokémon that have been insanely buffed like these 4. I’m so used to the mainline games where there’s so many Mons that are just mid or worse versions of another Mon or just plain bad, so seeing what’s been made amazing in here would be awesome
I think Bone Zone just doubles the "not very effective" damage, thus making it neutral. At least thats how it was in Radical Red
That makes sense
You are right
I'd also like to nominate Meowstic-Female for the Insanely Buffed category.
Sage Power and Psychic Mind boosts its damage output tremendously, and Hyper Aggressive lets it break through Sash and deal effectively an extra 25% more damage. Psychic Surge boosts Psychic moves even _more_ as well as blocking incoming priority, and very few things can outspeed max invested 104 Speed with a Choice Scarf
Aside from Dark Types, there's basically nothing in the game that lives an Expanding Force from it
I do remember that killing me at some point lol
Espeon has the same abilities except for hyper aggressive, but it has a higher speed and special attack stat
Haha I was wondering why Vikavolt was so OP in this game. Great video as always!
Thank you!! ❤
I'm glad to have been in vc with you the other day and tell you about how insane Bastiodon and Vikavolt are! The changes in this game brought up almost every pokemon to shine and that's the true beauty of this game.
Really appreciate you for pointing them out for me! I love vikavolt but didn't even think to see his buffs lol
well well well lookie who we have here
I now see why they didn't give bastiodon reliable recovery in the base game ☠️
The actual reason Vikavolt is so cracked statwise here is because the creator of Inclement Emerald made it so. Buffel Saft wanted Vikavolt to be Alola's second Pseudo Legendary since before IE, when he made his Gen 7 romhacks PhotonicSun/Prismatic Moon
never knew that lol
Normal Marowak carried me through Elite 4. Also I wanna mention Chatot with Boomburst, that thing is also ridicolous
Chatot had Boomburst in the mainline games
@@tonberry2670 But not the Innates/Ability to back it up
I wanna see you cover my goat Aggron, they gave him similar changes to what Bastiodon got, but with a twist that made it feel like Aggron, and not just worse Bastiodon
He's on my list for sure
As how these buffs apply in practice:
Rampardos and vikavolt haven’t been used that much yet, so unsure about them.
Bastiodon has been used a bit as a much more sturdy alternative to mega steelix, which exchanges offensive threat and worse typing for being more statistically sturdy and not taking up the mega slot.
Alolan marowak hasn’t seen much use, but kanto wak was ripping ou to shreds, since nothing in the tier switches into skill link bone rush, and the few that did, like stamina forretress, can be exploited via sd and/or sub into bonemarrang, which hit harder than fire punch against heatproof forretress. Thus, kanto wal got banned to Ubers.
Honestly checks out. Even against AI trainers here as background footage, anything, actually anything weak to Ground, immediately vaporized before Water Shuriken on crack. It’s basically a free Mega slot, complete with a specific held item, and even gets essentially Huge Power from that item. It does not surprise me at all that the priority multihit Huge Power Tinted Lens Thousand Arrows is beyond the pale of busted. This whole game looks like bullshit (affectionate), but I genuinely believe that One Bone Man can take on Primal Cascoon with enough switches.
first time i fought a vikavolt in game (i think it was the lilycove rival fight) i was so caught off guard and was going in blind. i'd expected it to be the slow hard hitting mon it was in gen 7 and got absolutely trashed when it outsped everything on my team
So glad i found this guys vids lol so entertaining
Another great pokemon that i see many people sleeping on is swoobat,its not really good for late game but in early game its one of the best setupmons in the game,it has the ability "simple" which doubles all stat boost,u can give it agility,calm mind,amnesia/nasty plot and baton pass to combo with any special attacker for massive damage,my fav being espeon with stored power + choice specs,the last time i used it it dealt 4000 damage XD
Personal fan of ledian, I know it's essentially mandatory to buff it in romhacks, but I love how elite redux went about buffing it. loved using focus sash to counter its less than ideal bulk and then hit back with iron fist, raging boxer close combat or aerialate mega punch.
Edit: forgot levitate gives another 25% to flying type moves jesus CHRIST.
Ok, so here's the thing, since you talked about both the gen 4 fossils in this one... what about both the Gen 3 fossils! I've messed around with them both in competitive, and they've actually made it alot of fun, although I can't help but feel they have a lot of missed potential in some areas, Armaldo's issue being his abilities and Cradily's issue being a slightly constricting learnset, and maybe those isssues got changed!
Also, Bastiodon getting Shore Up is making me ***really*** hopeful that Cradily got Scorching Sands or a better trapping move than Infestation and I just can't take that suspense lol.
Damn, I really think armaldo's abilities are freaking solid. Impenetrable head smash and wave crash with a free LO, no intimidate and more common crits, etc. Plus fossilize covers one of its weaknesses
Rampardos also gets Accelerock in this ROM Hack, mind you, so he can get a STAB priority move that can save him in more times than expected
Lets go you made one for ordinary pokemon :D
1) I always liked signature items and how they affect balance for certain Pokemon; removing its item slot for a set in stone boost. So it sucks when a Pokemon with a really strong signature item and, at times, _three_ signature moves still fails to keep up in the mainline games. Seeing a souped up version of the mon make full use of its signature moves and have a place to shine is great.
I'm not sure how I feel about Bone Rush becoming a priority move, though. It's probably the best way to buff Marowak - especially since it gets Skill Link now - without going too overboard on stats, but they _did_ amp Vikavolt up to _600 bst,_ so giving Marowak at least 500 bst wouldn't be too crazy. Bone Rush becoming priority lowkey feels more like a Lucario buff than a Marowak buff.
What they could do is make Bone Club closer to Shadow Bone (75 bp to 90 bp and 95% accuracy to 100% accuracy; and yes, I _am_ going to point out how they left Bone Club at 95% accuracy while it is still 25% less powerful than Earthquake and having a flinch chance on a mon with 45 base Speed. Ya'll need an early game Ground STAB? Bulldoze is right there) and give it the chance to lower Defense rather than a chance to flinch (again, on a mon with 45 base Speed). Then change Bone Rush from a Water Shuriken clone to a Bullet Seed clone; with Skill Link it goes from a 75 bp priority STAB to a 125 bp non-priority STAB. And finally bring up its stats so it has better defenses and Speed. That way, it gets a signature move for every ability (Bonemerang for Technician - which would probably be its best ability paired with Mach Punch and Shadow Sneak for priority coverage, Bone Rush for Skill Link, and Bone Club for Stamina) while not stepping more into buffing Mega Lucario territory. Therein lies another issue, though, where Skill Link Bone Rush is pretty much worse than Technician Bonemerang. I have no solution to this aside from stuffing Marowak with a ton of other multi-hit moves; it pretty much only has Bone Rush and Rock Blast to benefit from Skill Link as of now.
2) I like the inclusion of Primal Armor to combat its quad weaknesses, but another balancing option is to use P:LA's super effectiveness multipliers for the game: where a single weakness is 2x as normal, but a double weakness is only a 2.5x damage mult rather than 4x. I don't really see any scenario where a would-be broken mon is reigned in solely by a quad weakness, but I do see a _ton_ of examples of defensive mons being absolutely gutted in viability by quad weaknesses. I also don't think Iron Barbs works quite as well for Bastiodon thematically, since it doesn't really have that many pointy bits. Intimidate or Bulletproof (letting it block Aura Sphere and especially Focus Blast) would work better, both thematically and in practice imo.
3) Predator is a weird choice of ability, since Rampardo isn't based on a carnivorous dinosaur. It's based primarily off of Pachycephalosaurus, which is commonly believed to be predominantly herbivorous (meaning Sap Sipper would actually be a better fit, given the ability's Japanese name of "Herbivorous"). Even with that aside, restoring 25% of its max hp per KO isn't really that good for a hyper glass cannon mon. Having it retain Mold Breaker would be better both thematically, because it is part of the evolution line that first showcased the ability back in Gen 4, and functionally, because bypassing defensive abilities does have quite a fair share of uses. Though, regardless, Hyper-Aggressive will probably be ran over both of them 99% of the time.
4) Finally giving Vikavolt good Speed is another form of justice that I'm glad to see. Having it be sort of a pseudo-legendary is a bit much though, imo. Even just taking 50 from its Attack - because let's face it: _no one_ is running physical moves on it anyways - so it has the same bst as Volcarona would be a lot more fitting.
An underrated change that Elite Redux gives it is Aurora Beam, letting it finally have boltbeam coverage. It's based on a sci-fi railgun, so it also fits. Although if we're going that route, then I'd go full out and give it access to Ice Beam and Flamethrower as well. It can't really up its Sp. Atk outside of Throat Spray Bug Buzz, so it isn't like giving it more coverage would break it (even with the boost to its base Speed, it still lives and dies almost solely on how good its Electric moves are). And even if it were broken... it's a freaking Gradius looking ahh railgun beetle. Let it be broken just this once.
Thanks for your ideas! Do you want to post them to our Discord so we can incorporate some changes into the game?
Honestly the buff turning Vikavolt into a speed demon really caught me off guard, its not the best pokemon, sure, but I loved using it in Sun and it was a reliable ally in Violet (probably because they just gave me a free thunderstone as a Pokedex reward, level 20 vikavolt is absurd) so seeing a pokemon I already used getting that absurd buff was just beautiful.
I love your Elite Redux videos. Please do more thank you ❤
Speed boost Dragupult baton passing to alolan marowak was insane. If its a bad matchup I switch to soul link umbreon then baton pass back to dragupult and repeat
Marowak can't do much without bone rush
I used it with technician, the moves were mach punch, shadow sneak, bonemerang and rock blast, if it survives a hit it can hit hard and if the oponent survives, it has priority moves. Yet it wasn't enough until it got bone rush
Thick club is also important if you forgot that
@@MegaFidough it already had it when i caught it
im sure trick room helps
@@wheatleythebrick2276 i don't like using trick room
I'm not good with it
I forgot to mention the fact that it doesn't learn bone rush until level 60
0:07 There's only one trainer that has a marowak, and it is the alolan marowak
And it killed me lol. I thought I remember getting killed by it before but I guess it was just the first elite 4 fight haha
@@MegaFidough it defeated my boy crobat
And i have to say
Aurorus is a great tank, superefective moves barely damages it
here before this legend blows up
🙏🙏
Keep it up bro your growing FAST and love your videos keep making more❤❤
Thank you ! 🙏
these videos are great, you should try mega swalot too 🤩
Ill definitely cover all the megas at some point lol
I was gonna comment on a different video when it was still fresh but could you do a video about vanilla megas with their new abilities and see how they compare to the new ones?
Ill definitely cover some OG mega forms
@@MegaFidough :)
Simple Contrary Spinda with Strength and I forget the other move carried me through the elite four and champion when I played. That thing is a monster.
superpower. I had it in the video originally but it was too inconstant for me
What is fun about making every pokemon turbobroken. Rampardos was not too bad but ghe other ones are absolutely crazy
Because if every pokemon is broken none of them are. You can use your favorite Pokemon without it being a liability
Something is only "broken" when in comparison to surrounding Pokemon. Each Pokemon in this game is crafted with great care with only a small handful of Pokemon actually standing out from the crowd in any unfair way. Seeing what all these Pokemon are capable of doing is fun and refreshing and you ALWAYS have access to something that can deal with something else as long as you know what you're doing
contrary dragalge carried me in the early game, and is a great choice into color change bs because of the overwhelm ability making the color change fairy not cancel draco meteor… i also had a blast running psychic terrain spam with all the priority abilities everywhere, so gardevoir + sash zam are the homies
Terrain is always solid
Look a meteor no is a draco meteor
Please more videos about buffed mons ❤
Got to review hydreigon in this
It's funny how in this rom hack you'll spend most of the time customizing your pokemon than actually playing the rom hack
In the beginning its annoying because I dont care about baby pokemon but I like experimenting with all the new stuff later
Damn your narration has improved so much! I just saw one of your vids from a month ago and this vid's narration is so improved!
Thank you! I've been trying to improve the videos more and more. New mic was used in this one
@@MegaFidough This mic for sure sounds better. Have fun making vids ! :)
How good are Redux Clawitzer and Noivern?
Clawitzer is solid. Noviern is not bad, gets some interesting moves
RAMPARDOOOOOOS! YYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAH!
Sturdy+weakness policy+rock polish/swords dance let's it nuke plus they gave it accelerock. Check out scolipede or just poison types in general. Mono poison eats the whole game alive
It feels weird being so early😅
Can you pls make a video about the old pesudo-megas? would love to see what you are thinking about them...mostly about garchomp
Wish they buffed Bastiodon Atk and SpA cause it needs that buff
still solid
thx man its what i needed ❤
Your comment definitely had me thinking lol. Appreciate the feedback as always
@@MegaFidough i was wondering bc you only have 1 mega and i decided to not use setups as it would be too easy so i needed non mega mons
@@couscous3351 That's true, cant use all the megas at once lol
Bastiodon is amazing with a Power Trick + Baton Pass buddy.
thats not a thing
Love your videos! I have noticed that elite redux online pokedex has been shut down, do you if there's another online pokedex somewhere on the internet?
Thank you! yea that one is really old here is the new one forwardfeed.github.io/ER-nextdex/static/
@@MegaFidough Thank you very much!
Great video!
does marowak beats primal cascoon
ngl I'd put ledian too, ledian is a fucking beast with ironfist and aeriliate and raging boxer boosted mega punch plus close combat
Aerilate Comet Punch is stupidly broken, I nearly swept Brawly with it.
can you make a video about Mightyena?
And why i cant evolve my charjabug to vikavolt?
you must evolve it in the mawville power plant.
Also is mightyena good?
@@MegaFidoughit is!
@@MegaFidough early game king mightyena
@@Rin_Ryuma I actually put him in my first early game Pokémon video
Can you do a video on whats the best mon for every gym
A question: can you actually play throught Battle frontier in elite redux or It s bugged or not update with new pokemons at all?
To answer your question: idk, never decided to go there, lemme ask a dev brb
Yeah no they didn't touch the Battle Frontier at all
@@mimesforcrimes8393 so if i go there are some bugs? Or i can play normally with all the elite redux stuffs but i Will encounter only gen1-3 Pokemon?
Because i remember an Emerald hack rom that had increase Pokemon and other utility and gameplay additions like elite redux and for some reason Battle frontier was bugged af.
BF will come in a later update
Hi fidough, I was thinking about starting a new game with double battle mode and going with a trick room team, what pokemon would you recommend me to use?
late game mega slowking is the god of trick room but early on dottler is solid and so is ralts and luxio
@@MegaFidough Could you tell me six pokemon to see if I'm able to beat the game with them?
Can someone tell me a way to find specific pokemons in general? Like there's a "pokedex" site for this rom?
yes!
forwardfeed.github.io/ER-nextdex/static/
@@MegaFidough it doesn't work, the site only shows an error "file not found"
@@Madsy_ecstatic I have no clue then. I just clicked the link I sent and it works for me
@@MegaFidough wait now it works, what the hell lmao
Is there a showdown server for this rom hack?
Yes but the link is weird on YT. The discord has it
Where can i find rampardos
If you go to fallarbor town and go into the house with the cave in it, there are a few fossils there and on the far right side theres an entrance to cave leading to the sand castle place. All the fossils are down in there
Cant find sheldon tho
If you go to fallarbor town and go into the house with the cave in it, there are a few fossils there and on the far right side theres an entrance to cave leading to the sand castle place. All the fossils are down in there
Where can you get bruxishite ??
that doesn't exist
@@MegaFidough bro catch bruxish and see it's evolution data
@@Avinash1974 bro... why is that there...
@@MegaFidough I think it is a glitch or something
@@Avinash1974 I was told that it was planned and they decided to remove it
Does have electivire learn plasma fists?
yes
Where is the online pokedex?
forwardfeed.github.io/ER-nextdex/static/
Why give Vikavolt a cool new ability that’s just worse then Speed Boost and give Vikavolt speed boost as wall.
gives it a flying immunity ig
Bongo
Another pokemon that got big buff is spinda, contrary superpower with simple is good, and heh spinda got faster now (i think)
what the point of this game if every pokemon can KO everything all the time
they cant lol but many are strong
Vikavolt love is appreciated. Bug pokemon are such a cool type when done right; Venomoth, Volcarona and Vikavolt (all V's, huh) are bugs done right.