"Removing the middle man" by inserting themselves between the artists and the platforms. That's not removing the middle man, that's being the middle man
"That's enough for a clip montage. Let's do the 'are you not entertained' and get to the next one. We gotta do 10 more. And we only have the room til 4."
"Little Book Man" sounds like a dumbass low-budget superhero movie from 30 years ago that can only be accessed in 2024 by digging through illegal websites.
Considering they advertise putting the music on spotify, etc, I would guess that the "service" they provide is that they put the music on streaming services, reap the profits from the music from their signed artists, then give artists bullshit tokens "the same value" as the profit they made, which they can "in theory" withdraw, but while they have all of the money they probably gamble with it on the crypto market, sort of like a FTX situation
In other words, they want to be the music producers. The issue is that actual production companies tend to have that much power because of gang ties and are often surrounded by mysterious accidents. In case anyone is confused, I am not just referring to the rap genre where the gang influence is less hidden. This goes further back with the mafia being heavily involved in the music industry.
Why are they so focused on the "community" when they aren't even able to articulate what the hell they are selling?? At least on Shark Tank they have to bring a slide show
because the "community" is all these cryptobros have, they know they're not convincing anyone outside the space to invest in their crap, so they constantly appeal to the crypto community since they're the only ones dumb enough to give them money
For a country like mine, it is also a thing that helps you live like a normal person, avoiding ridiculous bans that the government puts out. You see, my country is basically cancelled and we're financially cut off from the rest of the world. We use it to send money to our relatives, buy things from other countries, - everything you can think of that involves international transactions.
It's wild they settled on the name Killer Whales when "whales" is also the term for the tiny number of people who spend huge amounts of money on free to play games. They're basically calling themselves marks.
Technically Killer Whales aren't whales but "Whale Killers", so they're sort of outing themselves as the scumbags that target whales which is also pretty apt XD
As I understand, in crypto jargon it has the very slightly more complimentary meaning of “a rich asshole so heavily invested in a given project that they get to set the terms and then everyone else has to just deal with them.” You know, because it's so decentralized.
???? If you're a billionaire or millionaire and you're worried about how many people are in the discord as a point to if your business is gonna go well....probably in the wrong line of work
Crypto guys absolutely love discord as it can effectively isolate a potential mark. On twitter you gotta deal with normal ppl pointing out the scam, in your own personal discord anyone who even slightly questions crypto is getting fucking banished lol
@@danieljames852 Crypto Twitter is huge and people have major discussions on there all the time. Is the social media of choice for the industry. Your speculation went a bit overboard.
The fact that there is no cash prize explains why the first guy didn't have any business plan. He wasn't seeking an investment he was just trying to get a mentorship.
It's always like "This is what we wanna do, and we'll be the best at it." and the Drago... I mean Shar... I mean Whales never ask "How?". And, when they do get close to asking "How?", they accept wishy washy answers like "I've worked so hard on this already, I'm not going to let it fail, I'm extremely commited". Which doesn't answer the question at all. If I ask "How are we going to put out this fire?" the answer can't be "By trying our best."
Just looked on their website to figure out what they are and they focus a lot on automatic royalty distribution and selling percentages of royalty ownership as NFTs. I was wondering how they made money if they didn’t get a cut of royalties, but in the FAQ they clarify that they distribute royalties in their NEWM token. In other words, what they do is charge you $10 per release, then take all of the royalties for themselves and give you some funny money that you’re supposed to believe other people will buy. Or they somehow actually to burn all the royalty money to produce the newm token, which is somehow worse to me.
But WHY is Pinely so evil? What is your origin story? I think we need another one of your pristine animations that will take 7 months to develop to find out…
Love that this crypto shows asks more pointed questions than most of the media! 'Why is this better than existing businesses? Oh it's not, it's just the same with a blockchain bolted on? Huh.' 'What experience do you have? None? You're just a young crypto enthusiast with a dream to rug-pull? Interesting.'
My Mom, who has a wicked Boston accent, told me that my cousin's kid was "very artistic". I thought that finally we wul have a Leonardo de Vinci in the family. And my Mom KEPT talking about him and that he was so "artistic". So imagine how i felt after a year or so and then learning she MEANT "autistic". 🤷♀️
Yeah this show is so weird, the rules and concept make no sense. It's like someone designing a board game but have never played a board game before so you sit down to play a game and the game instantly breaks because the design just doesn't work. I really can't believe that money was put into this with how weakly its produced.. but then again I feel that way about every single crypto scam so it fits.
I think the show has an innate problem, that the people who would go on the show are people who value “mentorship”, aka people who are bought into the whole motivational get-rich-quick mindset. Their product/service will never be something substantial that would actually be worth “swimming” on
I swear these guys just don't do anything apart from repeating the same two sentences! How can they have so little after allegedly sacrificing everything for that project!
I thought it was odd that you missed the mooch the first time around, i heard his name come up and was like there’s no way there’s more than one anthony scaramucci, lo and behold
at first a bit ago i was like wtf did he make another video on this topic because you changed the title of the last one and now i was like wtf he did make another video on this topic
I feel like this show is just people trying to cram crypto into what might actually be a business idea. For each of these I think "ok, but what does that have to do with crypto? Why would it need crypto? Where does the crypto part even come into this?" And they never explain...
there is a well known Dragons Dens UK pitch, where a band comes on, and they offer a % in return for investment. So I get it maybe fans can own 0.0001% of their favorite artist. There is also a more recent pitch for a music promotion service. Cyprto, NFTs are an idea in search of a question. There maybe something that model works for, but so far hat has yet to be found. I GUESS the idea is that I as a fan / investor in "Band XYZ" take a bitcon of NFT based around that band, future fans will buy that NFT / Bitcoin at a highe rate than I paid for it. However that is obviously highly unlikely to happen, and if revenue stream is still Spotify, then I was an investor be it shares or bitcoin, its highly unlikely I would ever see any real money. Even if the band bet the odds and hit the big time, any contract signed with this company would be all but null and void.
Plus there's also that, well, why would anyone wanna buy one of those tokens to begin with? The literal only use they have is speculation, or in other words hoping to sell it to someone else for a profit later. It's always gonna turn out to either be a game of monetary hot potato or a vastly inefficient method to give some sort of exclusive fan benefits at best.
@@Darca1n in the end, nfts / bitcoin are little more than a proof of payment. Whatever additional benefits you attach to that proof of payment, it doesn't get away from the fact that there are other ways to prove payment. Pateron is mentioned in the video. That can of course bring added benefits to a fan of a RUclipsr or a musician. However, you just don't need to get in the blockchain involved.
You look like you’re glowing mister evil pinkeye idk if u got a haircut or if the lighting is popping off or maybe u just getting that summer sun. Gorgiana elegante💖
The name is just so bad. Dragon's Den - The "dragons" are rich. Dragons hoard wealth. Shark Tank - Sharks smell blood in the water (weakness), they scrutinise pitches and tear them apart. They're experienced; the entrepreneurs are "swimming with the sharks". Killer Whales...? They kill whales, but that's it. When I'm looking for someone to invest in me, I don't want to be thinking about Shamu.
It’s their fault for the badly-explained pitch but it seemed like they were setting out to be some sort of Distrokid competitor, rather than a competitor to Spotify.
I want a crypto shark tank where the winners gets millions of dollars in investment, but all the judges are actual business men who just tear them to shreds and there never are any winners
**yawnsssss and s t r e t c h e s** oh - ? uh evil pinely… why are you here? you have a new video? oh ok… well good morning i guess, hold on lemme get my coffee and take my adderall, this will be great to wake up to thank you so much for breaking into my house and watching me sleep
SOMEONE GET A BARF BAG STAT‼️‼️ DON’T JUST STAND THERE PEOPLE THEY’RE GONNA - …. so maybe just get a mop and maybe a… shovel?? dear god what the fuck did you eat ….. …… ….. ?
The worst is that there could be an idea here. Like, assuming that crypto is not all BS, you could do a platform where you invest in music artists and buy NFTs of their music that give you part ownership of the IP and dividends if the music works but HAHA not even
This is such a non-issue. Any distribution or licensing site or organization provides break downs. Even breaking it down into source (tv, movies, streaming) and international or domestic. Also what is that hat.
I feel kinda sorry for the Newm guys, apart from the maybe flaws in their concept, when they started out with "non-profit" and "the industry doesn't exist without the artist", I knew they were not gonna be swimmin 😂 These are the exact people that gather pervers amounts of money of the thinking that "the industry" in general provides work for the workers and arstists, they don't want anybody to think or even do otherwise. Thats why crypto is not gonna change a shit, even if blockchains etc. are a good thing, the corrupted are the first to get their hands on it, maintaining their power and the status quo.
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"Removing the middle man" by inserting themselves between the artists and the platforms. That's not removing the middle man, that's being the middle man
lmaoooo
I think his words were actually "replacing the middleman"
@@RickyRandom460 4:52
my exact thought hahaha
that’s a middle man mixup
"sink or swim" is the same method they used to use to tell if someone was a witch or not
And you’d die either way
@@mel0dicHarp if you're weak minded. I'm different. I'd live.
@@_ikako_ dude just went "nah i'd live"
I love how they seemingly randomly go "Ok enough outta you! Sink or swim time!!"
Me too. It feels like they're doing it in the middle of their explanation
"That's enough for a clip montage. Let's do the 'are you not entertained' and get to the next one. We gotta do 10 more. And we only have the room til 4."
Amazon just put out a statement that the show has been cancelled because the killer whales were destroyed by evil pinely. He's so evil
he IS evil!
@@machnesntsn_ind.But a necessary evil in that case.
Killer whales? More like Killer Pinley.
Had me in the first half!
Killer Whales is just 7 year old me asking my parents for v bucks
Little book man asking if they have a family is honestly brutal
"Little Book Man" 😭😂
I know he probably has a terrible personality but i want little book man so bad
LITTLE BOOK MAN
@@guyanomaly dude he looks like dollar tree sneako 😧
"Little Book Man" sounds like a dumbass low-budget superhero movie from 30 years ago that can only be accessed in 2024 by digging through illegal websites.
Considering they advertise putting the music on spotify, etc, I would guess that the "service" they provide is that they put the music on streaming services, reap the profits from the music from their signed artists, then give artists bullshit tokens "the same value" as the profit they made, which they can "in theory" withdraw, but while they have all of the money they probably gamble with it on the crypto market, sort of like a FTX situation
Yeah it sounded to me like a probable fraud situation too
Yep, just use routenote
In other words, they want to be the music producers. The issue is that actual production companies tend to have that much power because of gang ties and are often surrounded by mysterious accidents.
In case anyone is confused, I am not just referring to the rap genre where the gang influence is less hidden. This goes further back with the mafia being heavily involved in the music industry.
Why are they so focused on the "community" when they aren't even able to articulate what the hell they are selling?? At least on Shark Tank they have to bring a slide show
because the "community" is all these cryptobros have, they know they're not convincing anyone outside the space to invest in their crap, so they constantly appeal to the crypto community since they're the only ones dumb enough to give them money
Can he stop being THIS evil?! His evilness is too strong...
It's incredible watching them try to wriggle around the fact that crypto is nothing but a vehicle for speculative investment
Hey, it's much more useful than that! It can also be used to avoid banking regulations and to dodge taxes!
For a country like mine, it is also a thing that helps you live like a normal person, avoiding ridiculous bans that the government puts out. You see, my country is basically cancelled and we're financially cut off from the rest of the world. We use it to send money to our relatives, buy things from other countries, - everything you can think of that involves international transactions.
@arima_song and that country is?
@@arima_song
What country
@@adeer87Cryptoland
I finally have the opportunity to comment relatively early after a video is uploaded and add nothing of value to this discussion!
I think you have value. Also I love you
@@guyanomaly aw🥲
Hopefully you'll get thousands of likes for the comment you just offhandedly made in the first few minutes of the video being live.
the “forgetting everything you know about music” bit made me laugh so hard and i’m so glad you stuck to it
It's wild they settled on the name Killer Whales when "whales" is also the term for the tiny number of people who spend huge amounts of money on free to play games. They're basically calling themselves marks.
Technically Killer Whales aren't whales but "Whale Killers", so they're sort of outing themselves as the scumbags that target whales which is also pretty apt XD
Yeah, thats ridiculous, there is no way all of them are called mark
As I understand, in crypto jargon it has the very slightly more complimentary meaning of “a rich asshole so heavily invested in a given project that they get to set the terms and then everyone else has to just deal with them.” You know, because it's so decentralized.
I suppose in their defense, "killer whales" are not whales. They're actually more like dolphins.
@@Olivia-nr9qp They're toothed whales, as are dolphins, belugas, narwhals, and sperm whales.
???? If you're a billionaire or millionaire and you're worried about how many people are in the discord as a point to if your business is gonna go well....probably in the wrong line of work
Crypto guys absolutely love discord as it can effectively isolate a potential mark. On twitter you gotta deal with normal ppl pointing out the scam, in your own personal discord anyone who even slightly questions crypto is getting fucking banished lol
@@danieljames852 Crypto Twitter is huge and people have major discussions on there all the time. Is the social media of choice for the industry. Your speculation went a bit overboard.
killer whale more like killer fart
Stop swearing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Killer shart
@@xx-sof-xx STOP SAYING CUSS WORDS GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@marel143 You have to go to Illegal Pinely for cussing
That they need all five swims is also very stupid. If first person sinks, the suspense is all over
The fact that there is no cash prize explains why the first guy didn't have any business plan. He wasn't seeking an investment he was just trying to get a mentorship.
I love how he asked what it has to do with crypto and he just repeated the first sentence worded differently
Every time I hear them explaining their service I'm just thinking "This is a load of barnacleeeessss"
It's always like "This is what we wanna do, and we'll be the best at it." and the Drago... I mean Shar... I mean Whales never ask "How?".
And, when they do get close to asking "How?", they accept wishy washy answers like "I've worked so hard on this already, I'm not going to let it fail, I'm extremely commited". Which doesn't answer the question at all. If I ask "How are we going to put out this fire?" the answer can't be "By trying our best."
I love that your inner voice went with barnacles, i was thinking more “male cow feces” (bullshit hehe get it)
I couldn't decide whether to read this like Mr Krabs or Captain Haddock. Thanks for hurting my brain😭
Just looked on their website to figure out what they are and they focus a lot on automatic royalty distribution and selling percentages of royalty ownership as NFTs. I was wondering how they made money if they didn’t get a cut of royalties, but in the FAQ they clarify that they distribute royalties in their NEWM token. In other words, what they do is charge you $10 per release, then take all of the royalties for themselves and give you some funny money that you’re supposed to believe other people will buy. Or they somehow actually to burn all the royalty money to produce the newm token, which is somehow worse to me.
Honestly, this show might just be a vehicle for pump & dumps.
Now I'm just waiting for Newm to get a cease and desist from Noom xD
But WHY is Pinely so evil? What is your origin story? I think we need another one of your pristine animations that will take 7 months to develop to find out…
10/10 idea I would watch this
Love that this crypto shows asks more pointed questions than most of the media! 'Why is this better than existing businesses? Oh it's not, it's just the same with a blockchain bolted on? Huh.' 'What experience do you have? None? You're just a young crypto enthusiast with a dream to rug-pull? Interesting.'
I was so excited for this follow up ngl. Ruins my faith in humanity, thank you evil pinely
I confused shark tank with shark tales and I’m a little disappointed I wasn’t right
as soon as one judge says sink, it's just over since they need all 5. what???
I mean...since no one knows who Satoshi is, we don't /know/ he started from nothing.
Everytime he says "artist" all I hear is "autist" 😭😭
My Mom, who has a wicked Boston accent, told me that my cousin's kid was "very artistic". I thought that finally we wul have a Leonardo de Vinci in the family. And my Mom KEPT talking about him and that he was so "artistic". So imagine how i felt after a year or so and then learning she MEANT "autistic". 🤷♀️
Yeah this show is so weird, the rules and concept make no sense. It's like someone designing a board game but have never played a board game before so you sit down to play a game and the game instantly breaks because the design just doesn't work. I really can't believe that money was put into this with how weakly its produced.. but then again I feel that way about every single crypto scam so it fits.
I’m still perplexed by the cardboard background
I think the show has an innate problem, that the people who would go on the show are people who value “mentorship”, aka people who are bought into the whole motivational get-rich-quick mindset. Their product/service will never be something substantial that would actually be worth “swimming” on
Crazy how a simple change in the camera angle can change the entire perception of an outfit!
I swear these guys just don't do anything apart from repeating the same two sentences! How can they have so little after allegedly sacrificing everything for that project!
It's like when you play poker with your bros and without money. Everyone is just all in.
Nice seeing the Atroic and EvilPinely universe merge
just after his video about nobody else covering this lol
"I'm a nice guy. Your only hope."
No hope. Cuz 5/5 swims needed. And they had 4 sinks already.
why is the camera work of this show so sinister
I "forgot everything about music" then read "power to the fan" and legit went uuh... Electricity?
“They just let a guy in” 😂😂😂
7:40 i genuinely thought that was bbno$ before he started talking
“Money-can’t-buy mentorship” UNBELIEVABLE.
good pinely would never do the "i dont know any words" bit
Well, the spirit is there. The whole crypto scene is founded on the constant exchange of platitudes.
I thought it was odd that you missed the mooch the first time around, i heard his name come up and was like there’s no way there’s more than one anthony scaramucci, lo and behold
It's like they're trying to measure your ability to spew bs.
"Well that was an absolute gishgallop, Swim from me!"
at first a bit ago i was like wtf did he make another video on this topic because you changed the title of the last one and now i was like wtf he did make another video on this topic
I feel like this show is just people trying to cram crypto into what might actually be a business idea.
For each of these I think "ok, but what does that have to do with crypto? Why would it need crypto? Where does the crypto part even come into this?" And they never explain...
there is a well known Dragons Dens UK pitch, where a band comes on, and they offer a % in return for investment. So I get it maybe fans can own 0.0001% of their favorite artist. There is also a more recent pitch for a music promotion service.
Cyprto, NFTs are an idea in search of a question. There maybe something that model works for, but so far hat has yet to be found. I GUESS the idea is that I as a fan / investor in "Band XYZ" take a bitcon of NFT based around that band, future fans will buy that NFT / Bitcoin at a highe rate than I paid for it.
However that is obviously highly unlikely to happen, and if revenue stream is still Spotify, then I was an investor be it shares or bitcoin, its highly unlikely I would ever see any real money. Even if the band bet the odds and hit the big time, any contract signed with this company would be all but null and void.
Plus there's also that, well, why would anyone wanna buy one of those tokens to begin with? The literal only use they have is speculation, or in other words hoping to sell it to someone else for a profit later.
It's always gonna turn out to either be a game of monetary hot potato or a vastly inefficient method to give some sort of exclusive fan benefits at best.
@@Darca1n in the end, nfts / bitcoin are little more than a proof of payment. Whatever additional benefits you attach to that proof of payment, it doesn't get away from the fact that there are other ways to prove payment.
Pateron is mentioned in the video. That can of course bring added benefits to a fan of a RUclipsr or a musician. However, you just don't need to get in the blockchain involved.
Why aren't we talking about the cardboard just sitting there now, I miss the old drawing days it's still got space!
Kim Dotcom spelled out this exact model in an offhand way a few years ago. Nothing new here, for sure.
1:47 They doing the dinner with Jay-Z thing unironically???
Evil Pinely you owe us that air video before making more promises!
at 200k!
You look like you’re glowing mister evil pinkeye idk if u got a haircut or if the lighting is popping off or maybe u just getting that summer sun. Gorgiana elegante💖
YESSS i wanted more so bad, i still do this is hilarious
11:00 she friendzoned them.😅
The name is just so bad.
Dragon's Den - The "dragons" are rich. Dragons hoard wealth.
Shark Tank - Sharks smell blood in the water (weakness), they scrutinise pitches and tear them apart. They're experienced; the entrepreneurs are "swimming with the sharks".
Killer Whales...? They kill whales, but that's it. When I'm looking for someone to invest in me, I don't want to be thinking about Shamu.
It’s their fault for the badly-explained pitch but it seemed like they were setting out to be some sort of Distrokid competitor, rather than a competitor to Spotify.
The fact that it’s a mentorship and not money is fucking hilarious
and yet you still need all 5 "swim votes" to get a free fucking mentorship
Pinley but evil
Atrioc’s commentary on this is very entertaining
This is what happens when we outlaw whaling. Some whales just shouldn't be saved.
"hes the one with the notebook"...with a shinigami laughing in his ear 24/7 oh god I think hes crying out for help. maybe
so....its if they took routenote, made it crypto, and added some random extra stuff about "supporting" artists
Wait but if they need all 5 dudes to vote swim, why do they dramatically go down the line voting after one person already voted them out‽
the killer whale tank.... the killerwhaletank.... I'm goin into the killerwhaletank
Well, no shit this is a crypto-based show because that stage looks so like it's in a cryptic morgue.
The set is so creepy
Not knowing what music is somehow got funnier every time
This show exists so the hosts can pump and dump as many coins as possible
I want a crypto shark tank where the winners gets millions of dollars in investment, but all the judges are actual business men who just tear them to shreds and there never are any winners
**yawnsssss and s t r e t c h e s** oh - ? uh evil pinely… why are you here? you have a new video? oh ok… well good morning i guess, hold on lemme get my coffee and take my adderall, this will be great to wake up to thank you so much for breaking into my house and watching me sleep
I see a video with this in the thumbnail, I know its gonna be a swim for me.
God I want an Evil Pinely x Atrioc Killer Whales watch along
The guy to the left of the Newm guy reminds me of the dude that makes those yt shorts and tiktoks pretending to be a redditor he looks SO similar
At first i was sure this was a repost. I was thinking of just skipping it, but my need for evil pinely content was bigger
lets go i love killer whales its so funny
Winner gets advice, not cash.
But whales/advisors are gonna make sure "we get a piece" for our advice.
Im gonna THROW UP
SOMEONE GET A BARF BAG STAT‼️‼️ DON’T JUST STAND THERE PEOPLE THEY’RE GONNA - …. so maybe just get a mop and maybe a… shovel?? dear god what the fuck did you eat ….. …… ….. ?
The worst is that there could be an idea here. Like, assuming that crypto is not all BS, you could do a platform where you invest in music artists and buy NFTs of their music that give you part ownership of the IP and dividends if the music works but HAHA not even
Ah yes, picking the same name but different spelling of a diet subscription service that has multiple lawsuits. Very middle man energy.
Tbh I would watch a whole series of you watching this show
I don't think they're looking for a good project, they're doing job interview, they won't pay them for their app, they just want new employees
evil pinely? maybe.
Murder house flip next. Trust me. 🤫🤫🤫
Aitroc reacted to this show , it’s super funny
At least "The Mooch" didn't end up on DWTS
Dumb gets dumber??
Ily evil pinely please don't die
Why are they filming this in the backup batcave in the dark knight
Sounds too much like Noom 😅
The real killer whale is Keith Ape.
UNDERWATER SQUAD 🐋
yo i think that narrator is AI i heard it in Kurtis Connors video about the worst RUclipsr movie
they're going to get sued again by noom (the diet company)
has anyone else mentioned this evil pinley uses a lot of risk of rain music. i think that's pretty rad i like risk of rain.
5 out of 5 swims!
Yayy I’m glad this is back
Shark tank but for exposure
How is this not parody? 🥴
This is such a non-issue. Any distribution or licensing site or organization provides break downs. Even breaking it down into source (tv, movies, streaming) and international or domestic. Also what is that hat.
I feel kinda sorry for the Newm guys, apart from the maybe flaws in their concept, when they started out with "non-profit" and "the industry doesn't exist without the artist", I knew they were not gonna be swimmin 😂
These are the exact people that gather pervers amounts of money of the thinking that "the industry" in general provides work for the workers and arstists, they don't want anybody to think or even do otherwise.
Thats why crypto is not gonna change a shit, even if blockchains etc. are a good thing, the corrupted are the first to get their hands on it, maintaining their power and the status quo.