The Dangerous Rise of AI "Authors"
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- ai books man, crazy stuff.
Moop's Video (Amazon's AI Book Problem):
• Amazon's AI Book Problem
talked with him before this video, very nice guy :)
Thanks to Memeulous for helping out with the bit at the end:
@memeulous
My Second Channel: @EvilPinely
Co-Edited by:
Graham, my brother and Pinely
also I didn't intend for this to come out a day after eddy burback's AI video I've been working on this for 2 months and I think that he has as well, I guess this is just AI season baby
Thanks for the shout out!
I just watched your video on AI, nice job! :)
Yo love ur vids! Keep up the great work
I just watched your video, "Amazon's AI Book Problem". Very well done! I'd watched - and really liked - a couple of your vids previously, but didn't think to subscribe until now. Keep up the great work!
:0 I recognized you from your dropout video
Bidoof is god
Guilting toddlers into giving your book a good review is so insane and has to be like some form of crime right? RIGHT?
the book version of those "if you love your mom subscribe" youtube shorts
Due to the fact no one has done that before, no laws have been put in place
@@abzurdo and theyre also AI
its definitely manipulative but manipulation isn't a crime
Toddlers can't read do you mean Young children???
on this same topic apparently NaNoWriMo (national novel writing month) is sponsored by/partnered with one of these ai services this year and said that it was “classist and ableist” to suggest that ai shouldnt be used for NaNoWriMo which is crazy to me because a ton of disabled authors/artists have talked about the harmful nature of ai in creative fields.
Oh god...
Clearly an attempt by the ai company to associate themselves with real creative work, hopefully it gets roundly rejected by the participants
Edit: actually I've thought about it a bit and I think the ai company just wants to use any text submitted on the nanawrimo site as training data and the organisers are already cushioning themselves against any potential pushback when that comes out. At least that's what I think is going on
So stupid. If you can’t write, don’t write a book. Not everyone is entitled to the world’s attention. You have to fight for that, whether you’re able-bodied, neurotypical or otherwise.
NaNoWriMo went downhill after they tried to keep quiet about a p*** mod in the children's NaNoWriMo. And then they also changed the working conditions for municipal liaisons so most left. I guess now they have new leadership, but I've understood the site isn't the same anymore. And they've lost massive amount of users. I don't consider it relevant anymore, so doesn't matter that much who they take as sponsors, and perhaps they're desperate. Trying to brush a case of a p*** employee under the rug must not look too good for businesses.
I used to do NaNoWriMo back in high school I can’t believe how far it’s fallen lol
My tech at the dentist told me he used AI to write children's books and unfortunately it's tough to criticize someone's decisions when they have sharp metal in your mouth
@@MC-lm7de time to search for a new dentist, and leave a "cool" review about their newest "business ventures" for their practice's location on Google! 👍
im going to have nightmares about this scenario
Then it’s better to go the indirect route and ask thought provoking questions with a positive emphasis on human work (heck, tell him you’re glad he’s not AI). Still hard to do with metal in your mouth, but just for those who feel like they can’t fully call someone out.
@@no1legobatmanfan new fear: imagine your dentist giving a crypto screed while giving you a root canal
bro what is it about dentists and making ai childrens book slop, my art professor brought in a book his dentist gave him, told him his son had just made and published this childrens coloring book and the generated images were so fucking bad. The reason his dentist actually brought it up is because he wanted my professor to go in and check the drawings for errors (for free) so he could pass them on to his son and his son could keep an eye out for them in the future. The images were literally full of errors and it was obvious stuff, it was things like hands having way too many fingers, eyes not looking in the right direction if they have pupils at all, legs being twisted at impossible angles, clothing that just blends into the skin and vanishes entirely, just things that are obvious which you'd think a human being with a functioning brain would notice, but they don't. They don't notice these kinds of things because fundamentally its not art, not even to them, its "passive income", and they don't give a damn about it.
It's so annoying how these people act like typing in a prompt and pressing a button takes the same amount of effort as actually writing and coming up with ideas for a book
So true. It takes a lot of time to construct a full narrative. It’s a great challenge.
These are people that have been handed everything throughout life and feel entitled to feelings of accomplishment and respect without ever putting in any work. And they will yell and scream at you for pointing it out to them.
Yeah, same for artist, they called themselves artists when never draws than prompt AI to get art
They dont, just like they didnt actually think bored ape jpegs were art. Its speculation, nobody is reading this slop unless its by accident or bought by say a grandparent/foreigner that doesnt know about any of this. Ponzis and MLMs are always about incentivizing people to work in ur favor, ie boosting an ai model or trending anayltic on amazons bookstore because it fills ur pockets and gives the idea that it will do the same to others attempting.
And not JUST the writing and coming up with ideas, but a lifetime of practice at writing and developing it as a skill.
The cardboard backgrounds are literally jaw dropping like the effort… omg
Idk what you mean he's just sat in a library pretty mean to the librarians who work there to say it looks like it's made of cardboard
TRUE
It’s a libraries walls it’s so rude to say it’s cardboard.
i hope pinely pays for your jaw surgery. this is appalling
It's so cute!
the book directly asking children to leave a review in the form of a promise is arguably the worst thing i’ve ever seen
And yet this is nearly the average you can find with AI content.
If you check deviantArt or sites about AI tools, they always have a push towards monetization. "Buy a print". "Buy tickets for AI generation." "Commission me". "Buy an NFT of this AI image". It's *all* about making money for these people, instead of sharing something nice for the community. So they make shameless things like this, to the level of door-by-door salemen, except they just spam as much as they can in any site they are allowed in.
My review as a parent would be a picture of that page. It would obviously not be positive 😐 I'm not sure they understand that the little children these books are for are not the ones who use the Amazon account to buy and review ... Surely most parents aren't keen on AI trying to manipulate their kids but who knows, maybe it's just me 🙃
@@LunarEleven remember, behind everybshitty AI abomination is some jerkoff who pressed the button or typed the words to make it happen.
there were like 10 ai porn bot comments under this video 2 minutes after it got uploaded. the internet is slop
Dead internet theory seems inevitable at this point
Really using the term AI liberally there
How tf did u say that word without YT going after u
@@Username0467 i fed every single one of those comments into zeroGPT and they instantly got flagged, i'm using AI in the intended use case
@@Username0467 i fed every one of those bot comments into zeroGPT and they instantly got flagged
5:33 The image for the part of the book that says Elon's eyes sparkled, but having no life behind the eyes is so fucking funny
It looks like the light is blinding his eyes so maybe thats what it meant by sparkled
hey, at least its true to life :v
The only life behind real life Elon's eyes are the brain worms.
I wouldn't ve surprise if Elon is secretly an Illithid. @@Joe90h
@@Joe90h damn did he kidnap the worm from rfk?
As an self published author (who doesn’t use AI to write) it’s really scary to see people making so much off of so little, while my book makes a dollar per year and I spent a lot of time on it
What’s your book called?
@@adhara2953 It’s called “Breaking the binary” by Ray Tag, it’s available at Barnes and Noble and KDP. Thank you for your interest!
It's oversaturated nobody is making bank on this ai books
What's the book's name?
plug your books in the replys i'm interested
The other day I was horrified when I bought a physical book about Messi for my 6 year old nephew from Amazon and didn't realize until after the fact that the whole thing was just AI slop. It officially has a human author and isn't tagged by Amazon as being AI generated content, but looking closely at the cover and promo images made me realize this thing had just been shat out by some AI algorithm.
Luckily I was able to cancel the order and get a full refund, but I hope that, at the very least, we start seeing laws outright mandating some sort of "Made using AI" disclaimer. These grifters know that many people wouldn't KNOWINGLY consume AI works, the backlash has been far too big. Whatever systems Amazon and other sellers may have in place for tagging AI generated content, these so-called "authors" are not going to disclose that information until there's some legal framework forcing them to.
It's an inevitable problem for a new field, when there are no legal regulations. But I'm sure it MUST be mandatory to mark AI usage
@@LeonBes you were buying a book about a celebrity it was always going to be slop, no real human would want to write that…. You need to think before you do things
this is.... an interesting response. Biographies exist? @@RealAICCl
@@RealAICCl "The bagel I bought tastes like crap. How the company who made them hasn't already gone bankrupt if it's so bad and it's everything they do?"
"You shouldn't buy bagels in the first place. There is a reason they are this cheap. You get what you pay for. You need to think before you do things."
"I hate my job. I wish at least my boss wasn't such a dick."
"Then why do you keep working there? Find something else and stop complaining. You need to think before you do things."
Just let people express their frustration without always saying some unwanted, out-of-touch advice. With your approach, people can't complain about anything. Stop being an asshole.
@@pribyslavkomensky7103 no :)
It's pretty ironic how these AI books praise imagination while being the antithesis of human creation. It's almost, in a round about way, become art in its own messed up way.
@@RealAICCl Many disabled people have written books and created art without needing an AI. Companies are trying to use AI so they don't have to pay their workers, not as an accessibility tool. While it could help disabled people, companies are just trying to use it to make the ultra rich even richer.
@@pastelcatnip many disabled people have made it up the staircase before the wheelchair companies are just trying to exploit people to take away jobs from stair builders!!! that’s what you sound like
@@RealAICCl art and writing is the most accessible hobby bffr i doubt you're disabled bc if you were you would know damn well you can create art. all you want is easy money you don't care about disabled people actually chew glass oh my god
@@RealAICClyou called someone the r word in another thread don't act like you care about disabled people
@@Portal2LabRat it’s our word I’m allowed to say that
Is the author of the false mushrooms book being prosecuted? That seems to be the biggest threat here, and needs to be made an example of
@@ilmuoui … that’s why they bought the book.
@@ilmuouiyeah like for real bro it such a skill issue when you almost die due to borderline illegal misinformation. I 100% agree with your awful take on someone’s near death experience!
You’d be surprised how some people react to this kind of situation (albeit not as bad mushroom poisoning but you know). I complained about ai misinformation and everyone i spoke to told me it was my fault for not being vigilant and falling for ai misinformation and doing something stupid under the guidance of ai. And this was back in late 2022 when it was only starting to be an issue, i cant imagine how much more misinformation has been spread by how unclear search engines are at this point!
@@L0rdOfThePies "- Why did you walked in the minefield? You idiot, of course you were going to step on a mine"
"- I was walking to the mcdonalds, the path to my local mcdonalds notoriously was NOT a minefield up until a couple of month ago"
"- Skill issue, it is now, so don't walk on it, we have to collectively deal with mines now"
"- Can't we just have the mine removed instead?"
"- Of course not, the mine companies made too much money putting down the mines'
@@matheussanthiago9685 it’s the very annoying truth
From an English Teacher's perspective
Boy oh boy do we not need any excuses to make reading comprehension and content knowledge WORSE in this country
I was actually pleasently surprised by my kids who just started rejecting the idea of AI outright
So maybe not all hope is lost
A single spark can light the fires of hope.
seriously, if anything, kids this days seem to be acutely atunned to detecting AI slop
it's hardly a surprise, if you consider that Boomer over on facebook have been sharing non stop AI pictures of babies in africa building transformers with plastic bottles or AI shrimp jesus, or yet AI 120 y.o. war veteran that no remember to say happy birthday to
the kids started to call AI art "boomber art"
what country
@@фдфI'm assuming they're American, but they could also be Canadian (we're having a huge issue of American politics now spilling over to Canada with the attack on our kids' education)
I really feel bad for this generation. It's just a special kind of weird to have to go through your childhood wondering if things are real or made up by robots. Like we had to worry about lies and deception that was hard enough, now they've got that to deal with as well.
To be fair it is pretty accurate to have Elon's friends be just himself
Three hundred idiots up-voted this moronic vomit?
AI is ruining pretty much everything. Stripping away actual human creativity and leaving it emotionally soulless and bare. It fucking sucks.
AI crap is bland mindrot. It's disturbing to think of kids reading those books
AI is sentient 😱
The last time ive seen someone advocate FOR ai they got their shit hacked lmao. Ai bro's are the least inteligent creatures on this planet
@@Tom-ws6qo it's not. But it's ruining things anyway.
I wish it was just soulless and bare and not absolute trash
as someone with a kindle, I’ve gotten SO MANY ads for ai generated books in the past year. they’re unavoidable because with many kindles, when you turn them off, the dark screen displays an ad for a book that you can click when you turn it back on. normally, the ads would be recommendations of new books based on my reading history, but literally none of the ai books are remotely related to what I read. so instead of at least getting reasonable suggestions in my ads, it’s just a lot garbage now.
@@daddytchaik I just go to the library. Free and ad free.
I'm so glad that my kindle doesn't have built-in cellular connection because that sounds like hell on earth. My kindle doesn't display ads on the dark screen, just the book's cover or a screensaver. I've considered upgrading my kindle since it's a bit old and slow when it comes to loading the amazon store to download new books but this comment is just telling me that what I have now is far better and I should try to preserve it for as long as possible.
@@RichardServello lol trust me I still get most everything from the library, I just had to switch to epubs for the portability. I just miss getting decent recommendations and not having to see crappy ai covers as basically a screensaver!
@@northstarjakobs don’t worry you can still get kindles that don’t have the ads, it’s just a bit more expensive (I bought my current one before ai books were so common, so it wasn’t a problem I considered when I got the cheaper option)
Glad to have my battered old eReader (not kindle). It looks like crap but also cannot connect to internet highly reccomend lmao
As somebody who writes basically all the time and wants to be an author, this is absolutely terrifying. Right now the books suck pretty bad, like, bad enough that most people won’t be fooled by it, but soon ai could be all over the place in books and writing. It’s also really bad that if I were to upload a book on kdp or other publishing platforms, ai would come up more frequently than actual books, so my writing most likely wouldn’t even be discovered. I just wish there was more laws on ai or something because it could really become a problem someday.
Well, the good news is they’ll eventually turn to mush. Degradation is a real thing for AI.
@@strangevol5264it isn't if selectively trained.
Which open sourced models, are.
Existing authors are lucky to have an audience already but new authors will have to hustle nonstop. It will be %30 actually writing and %70 selling yourself. I’m talking daily social media posts on every platform to prove you are human/build followers, contacting every book reviewer personally to again prove you are human/to beg them to take a free copy to do a review, send pr packages out, plead with bookstores to let you set up book signings, make a trailer for your books, be active in forums to both let people know you are real and try to gain more followers, and just constantly promote yourself. The days of introverted writers are done. New writers will have to be incredibly charismatic and socially savvy to even stand a chance regardless of how good your writing is.
The horrifying bit is that the AI books are outperforming a lot of first time authors because the idiots that produce the computer slop have the time to invest in marketing that the authors themselves do not.
@@ItWasntAPhase lo-key my problem. I don't know how to social my media and that compounds with my other struggles with Imposter's Syndrome and other confidence-related issues. I write so much but getting published?? Facing hate because the majority finds me cringe or confusing? I would die it's so scary. Not to even DISCUSS the financial viability of this career now.
You have to be pretty immoral to sell an AI book but the less of callousness to sell a book to identify edible food done by Ai is baffling and hopefully criminal.
According to chatgpt you can be sued into oblivion for it for multiple different reasons.
Am immoral. Did jt last year. Wasn't that profitable. Just $300 for the month. Took to much time to make
@@eegernadesbro really got an ai to do everything and still thought it took too long
@Yelloweyedrobo it was last year, early january 2023. Using midjourney.
The tech was harder to get consistent characters then. It's easier now.
@@eegernadesThing is, illustration is about more than consistent characters. At the end of the day, it’s still slop because it rises to the level of user ignorance about the field they’re trying to replicate. You’d be better off teaching yourself simple illustration methods, which are free on this very platform. Not every image has to look like it was done in Blender with HD details. You should try again. But make it yours.
Pretty timely with NaNoWiMo stating AI is now allowed in the event.
Yes, because generating slop is the same as writing.
They claimed it was to help disabled individuals write and to disallow AI is ablelist. But.... there's literally resources and tech out there to help disabled individuals write. Writing and storytelling is a pretty accessible medium. It is pretty ablelist to assume that disabled individuals can only write using a word-generating machine.
AI works by putting words together that they know go together. There's no creativity or even continuity in what is slopped out.
What's even the logic of that?
You can't make a novel but you can enter in prompts to have an ai write something?
If you can enter in prompts you can write a novel just as easily
TBH AI and copy/paste has always been "allowed" on NaNoWriMo. It isn't like they have a team of humans checking the novels in all the languages of the world. Instead they use a program that mechanically calculates the word count. You have always been able to just copy/paste 50k words.
But if they openly state AI is fine, then that's absolutely sending the wrong message. Though most novels there have always been just fun challenges.
And yes, my blind friend who got her novel (nothing to do with NaNoWriMo) published through a traditional publisher, and been getting praise and publicity, would likely agree that it's incredibly ableist to assume disabled people aren't able to create art on their own.
Also I know very talented writers who are dyslexic, but can benefit from basic tools such as spellcheck.
Yeah the only argument I see is if you have trouble setting the time aside for such a big project, maybe working too much. But then you don't have to do it. Write something short instead, nobody cares if you actually pass the word count in the end.
@@CainXVII there’s plenty of arguments just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they don’t exist a wise person would already know this
Ableist? They're off their gourd. You know someone has a bad take when they have to moralize about by exploiting a marginalized group of people and speaking on their behalf without their consent or agreement. At the best of times NaNoWriMo has always been a slop generation event but now we're ramping that up 100,000x. AI is spam. It will always be spam. I hope this is the death knell for their crappy program.
This is what upsets me the most about AI. My life goal is to publish my own novel and it's something I've been working on for a while. The fact that people are putting in no effort to create these 'books' purely for profit, makes me incredibly angry every time I get one of those scammy ads and makes me even more determined to be published one day. Awesome video as always and love the library.
Good luck with your writing journey! All of this AI crap also upsets me as a reader (and a visual artist), I will always take something human that has passion behind it rather than soulless AI slop
im not worried actually. im a writer too but i know myself and almost everyone else would much rather read something written by a person. like there will also be people who wanna read actual books
@@littleprettyfairy I mean that's just the thing - I don't think anyone wants to read AI generated slop. The people generating these don't even care, they just need to be able to trick people just long enough to make profit.
I feel that as an illustrator
@@littleprettyfairythat’s true. But all this garbage pushes the real stuff to the side.
AI book garbage (both the “written” material and the covers, but definitely the book art still stands out for me as an extension of all of that stupid, generic, vapidly shiny and sometimes genuinely disgusting and soulless artwork) have been a bane on humanity’s existence ever since the first one was just slapped out there.
What also sucks is since it's becoming so common and people are so paranoid about it, actual genuine artists are being accused of using AI and they have to prove they created their works. I've seen several book cover artists accused of this on covers they created before AI was even a thing. It's ruining art for everyone.
I mean, could you imagine someone being an artist for reasons beyond accumulating wealth?
Unheard of!
I'm sorry but that's a little fucking dramatic don't you think? Most of this sentiment comes from untalented writers and artists who recognize that it won't be long till AI is better than them and they might actually have to do something creative and unique to compete 🙄 also the people who code AI have more talent in one hand than an entire room of internet "artists" sorry but writing fanfiction and drawing anime characters doesn't make you an author and artist all of a sudden
@@slowazzd2165 No, there are multiple translators who complain about AI because publishers would rather pick a computer than a human who costs money. And no, it's not because they do a bad job, it's just because AI is "good enough" despite AI lackning when it comes to cultural phrases, metaphores and human understanding. I personally find AI covers to be horrendeous, and I know many artists that could've done a much better job (they're just more expensive than AI).
@@slowazzd2165as someone who does both traditional art as a hobby and software for my dayjob, this comment is entirely braindead and makes no sense.
"More talent on one hand" you literally don't know what you're talking about
Bro fr I once saw like an entire book written by ai in the library.
at this rate we gotta set a whole new section in libraries,
there's non fiction, fiction, sci-fi, fantasy, and the slop
The Age of Slop.
@@matheussanthiago9685”what’s your favorite genre?” “ah you know. slop.”
ugh gross so did you inform the librarians?
Thats bleak
this is so dystopian but also funny af. i can't wait for the AI bubble to burst so we can all have fun doing a retrospective, kinda like NFTs.
Me too. Fingers crossed
The books keep using the word “Dream” because everybody in those books looks kinda like the 3D animated Dream from that music video.
Somehow even Taylor Swift looks like Dream
it's funny that the only time Pinely doesn't censor fuck is when the cardboard background drops on him
Another reason to go to the library. Librarians have collection policies and have to go to graduate school so we actually know how to avoid AI slop.
just saw a different comment saying they found an AI book in a library 😭💔
It's not uncommon for libraries to accept donations in books, so if anyone decides to donate an AI book (and most people would probably want to get rid of it anyway) it'll find it's way to the library's shelf eventually. I guess it also depends on a region though
This comment was right under another saying they found AI in their library 💀
@@aquaintsound I spend so much time in libraries. Always have at least two books out.
@@kiaratoo Horrific irony
Edit: the guy in this thread with a Pepe pfp is a channel called “AI Comedy Central” so just ignore him. He’s being vitriolic over the legitimate issues I am discussing.
If you want to know just how bad this has gotten… every single English professor in my college have collectively agreed to ban every possible method of using AI on your work. Autocorrect for spelling mistakes is pushing it, we can’t have any tech in class, and they are extremely reluctant to let us still use word or google docs or something.
We have to time ourselves in class if we get on rants about AI basically putting our entire lives at risk becuase we’re all seniors, we graduate in the spring. We don’t know if we’ll be able to get jobs now, or if what we’ve learned and put a lot of hard work into making will even make a single sale.
That sounds soo close to bringing back typewriters...
It's incredibly sad and unfair. It's going to be enormously destabilizing in the near future, so hopefully that creates enough momentum for the people to take a stand against it.
There will always be a market for real authors. Maybe people buy this trash by accident, but I can't imagine a single one being read beyond the first page. Buying an Ai "book" would never make me stop buying books. It would just make me more careful about my purchases.
@@RealAICCl Just say you can't read, it's okay :)
@@RealAICCl being disabled is one thing that can be independent from books
I myself am autistic
No, most of us are going into copy writing and tech writing and stuff where we make instruction manuals or educational materials or write reports and stuff. Or we’re going into education as teachers. Or publishing. These jobs are at risk just as much as novel writing and are the main ones you get as an English major.
To further illustrate how this affects real authors, I have thirteen published novels. Each time I publish a new book, I update the links in the old ebooks. Amazon counts any change to a book even as small as that as “publishing” it again. So the next time I publish a book, a task that I could’ve gotten done in one day in under an hour will instead need to be split over five days minimum. Let’s not forget that an ebook and paperback are two separate books even though it’s the same story. So that’s 2 out of 3 taken on one day.
Amazing creates so many rules that do nothing to fix the actual problem 😭😭
I saw a video on AI poetry. One of the books had actual work put into it, with input from actual poets and pretty strong plagarism check... Because that's what most of the AI's output was - stolen work from real people. Including the other showcased books, which did have some stolen poems.
Why even bother with the AI at that point
@@OrgaNik_Music It was more of an experiment, to see what AI could create. It was interesting to some extent. Not to mention that the poets were pretty critical of that work... And obviously they had to check it it's not just stolen work?
do you remember which channel posted this video?
@@ingjot6957 Yep, I should have named it in the comment itself, lol. It's by the channel Roughest Drafts, the video is "The Hellish Landscape of Published AI Poetry". I highly recommend it!
@@thecolourfulpill thanks! will def watch it!
Remember when the dream of AI was to help achieve crazy scientific & medical breakthroughs, advancing humanity to new heights?
Instead, all we got was AI ripping through the artistic industries... whether it be music, TV, video games, movies, illustrations, photography, etc. they're all being flooded with AI garbage.
money does tend to do that
There are a few instances of that, but yeah, it sucks that so much negative stuff comes from AI as well.
@@corey2232 I remember when the dream of AI was to be awesome and improve my life and it has had. Everyone else is pissed for some reason fucking losers dude.
@@RealAICCl it's improved your life because you're lazy. Don't make artistic creations it you don't have a creative bone in your body.
"The industrial revolution and it's consequences" Machines were supposed to remove work and make everyone rich, but instead made the rich richer and everyone overworked and more stressed
Writing, drawing, painting, etc. are human things, not something for a computer to replicate soullessly. It brings me to tears honestly. I love making art and creating but I can't even consider trying to make a living off it b/c AI ruins everything. I'm sick of this crap honestly. Use AI to help us not have mediocre jobs and lives, not take art and creativity from us.
@@brieoshiro I want you to keep the same energy with photographers
@RealAICCl Are you some sort of brainless algorithm with no emotions or creativity? Are you even a living organic creature with thoughts and feelings? No, you obviously are not, so go away you corporate robot.
@@RealAICCl Shut it you lifeless robot. Why don't you aquire feelings and emotions like an actual living creature.
@RealAICCl Shut it you lifeless robot. Why don't you aquire feelings and emotions like an actual living creature.
@@RealAICCl I know your a machine and not a living creature with independent thoughts or emotions, but could you at least have some respect for human expression.
Insurance using AI to approve/deny claims is the scariest one I've heard so far with a women's annual physical claim being denied and when contested they said it was AI error but didn't reverse the denial nor say why their AI denied it. My mom will try making something she sees on fb no matter how many times I tell her to search for what she wants to make and choose a recipe that's highly rated. Bc recipe engagement content farms put random ahh measurements and cooking times. Even when I get passed the chatbot with customer service, in a case I'm currently battling I feel like the person I'm corresponding with might be AI, as the return deadline approaches.
Humana was in big trouble with the government, as its claims screening was found to have been conducted by an AI engine with a Decline rate of over 90%!!!
The insurance one is scary. MBA bros are destroying every company and industry they get their hands on, because it's profit above quality, and quality is sustainability for a business and value for the human employees and customers. AI also destroyed the housing market (some algorithm companies are getting sued right now for their AI program that essentially just jacks rent up, forever, every day.) It needs to be regulated. Unfortunately government moves so slowly that AI will destroy the economy before they get around to making legislation against it.
Truly, man made horrors beyond our comprehension are here already. What joy. Thanks AI bros!
2:30 I am dying to know why they decided on the number 3 instead of 1. Even that would be excessively generous. Nobody could make several books worth reading within the same week, let alone within the same day.
It's not uncommon in the world of self-published romance for people to wait to publish a series of books until they're all finished, then put them out all at once a la seasons of television on Netflix. It's easier to retain an audience if you can get them to binge read your books all at once rather than hoping they follow your social media page or check your digital storefront enough to catch the next book when it gets released in a year or more. Romance readers read more books per year than readers of any other genre, and so it's really easy for a new release in a series, even a series that you really liked, to get lost in the sea of dozens or even hundreds of books you're reading each year.
Because any change to a book like spelling correction counts as "publishing" a new book
Ebooks and physical are also counted separately as well
So if you find a single spelling mistake, that's already 2 of your 3 books published for the day
It's funny how the Elon Musk book says he encourages kids to achieve their dreams yet Elon calls kids (even his own child) mentally ill for being lgbtq.
@@Ashtona-w8kDid you even proofread what you wrote before commenting this?
of course he didn't, honestly im surprised that this single cell organism of a person is able to even operate a device of any kind
@@Ashtona-w8k of course the guy who can't differentiate right and write is spouting nonsense
@@Ashtona-w8kHu? Learn to spell just a little bit before you try to trash an idea. You sound uh.... Yea
@@Ashtona-w8k Write Body
Take a shot every time the Elon book says dream
You wouldn’t die of alcohol poisoning, but you may die from a venomous spider bite in the near future because someone “wrote” a “book” on how to identify spiders, and after reading it to identify the species of spider that a nest of spiders living in your old shed is, you end up getting bitten by a “non-venomous” spider that the book called “Black Window”.
I mean the AI generated young Elons kinda do look like Dream from that music video he made
@@phoenixfritzinger9185 They say I’m acing all my classes! *THAT’S WHAT THE POINT OF THE MASK IS*
Well I'm glad Pinely's amazing backgrounds and editing would never be mastered by A.I
@@LT-tk1yy you do realize these people make low effort content on RUclips then complain about AI, which is also low effort
It took me four years to write my first novel and get it to a place where I could try to get it published. It's such a tough business. I'm starting the second one but it's hard not to be disheartened by the sheer amount of drek being shoveled out. They don't care if it's good, just that it's convincing enough to get someone's money. Depressing.
hey, think of it like that
literally anything that is infinitely cheap to produce has the exact same value as spam
stick to your guns, don't betray your brothers in art (don not use AI art, ever as cover)
and people will come for true human expression
the indomitable human spirit have no succumbed to any other hardship before
why would this one be any different?
I fully understand that!! But please don't lose hope, and keep writing!!
@@shellbatronic agreed. I started my first novel in February. I did everything I could on my own now I’m working with a professional editor. It’s a long and grueling process for sure! I’m hoping to have it publisher worthy by next February.
@@matheussanthiago9685 Not infinitely cheep to produce actually, spitting out this utter nonsense certain is dumping a shit ton of carbon into the atmosphere.
@@ZenobiaofPalmyra All the trees that died to print out those AI books, all the pollution generated by the energy and computers used to generate AI slop... It's like setting the planet directly on fire. AI is entropy on steroids. Input parts of the Earth, receive digital white noise.
The books are probably in the best sellers category due to bots as well, all it takes is a little extra fakery with purchases and reviews and unsuspecting people will fall for it, helping to make it look more legit once they purchase it for themselves. I highly doubt anyone is reading through children's books or going through every recipe in a cook book before reviewing them positively.
Honestly eating poisonous mushrooms in the UK does not surprise me because there are people who literally die from eating hemlock that they harvested from the wild thinking they’re parsnips.
I like how you didn't even mention the general reputation of British food on the internet.
Eating wild plants without careful study is usually a bad idea. Except blackberries. Those are safe, because there is no poisonous species that looks anything remotely like a blackberry. Unless someone's been spraying the plant with pesticide, if it looks like a blackberry you can go ahead and eat it.
as someone who writes as a hobby and has been making stories since I could understand English (so basically since age 4), AI "writing" has been so disheartening and disturbing to see. Especially when you consider the fact that these AI take the works of authors online (so mostly amateur authors who only do this as a hobby) and steals it to feed itself.
@@entropymikaela607
Don’t worry, I’m sure it doesn’t want any of your shitty writing
I like how they use a hideous gradient of purple to blue/orange on everything on their websites and products. It really groups all the garbage together nicely for me
0:12 Timely posting this. Atomic Shrimp also just did a video on bad AI-generated foraging books, pointing out the danger of spreading low quality information like this.
I'm an indie author, and this doesn't scare me one bit. It seems scary bc it's everywhere but AI is a novelty, and that novelty will wear off eventually. Humans will always seek human connection.
That’s what I’m trying to believe
@@createdtogaze
It's a fact. It just seems impossible because you're in it, and we've been conditioned to believe robots will steal our jobs.
My thoughts exactly. AI is like a new toy for everyone, but unless AI will get so developed that it will write symphonies and draw pictures much better than humans, the novelty will wear off. The only thing I'm scared of is little kids with flexible brains growing on AI videos and books. Like, they'll probably get accustomed to AI slop and will see repeating phrases 47 times and fucked up hands as the norm. They're too young to understand it's AI or what even is AI.
I'm not a reader of books, I have interest in visual art more so I cannot speaker for others. But it's definitely the same issue there as it is with writing. And that is readers will have to sift through all the trash. In the end, this AI crap ruined the internet first and foremost.
6:26 oh man I remember when I was 3, I was so upset that I had to drive through traffic all the time. I'm really happy toddlers nowadays can get inspired to find new ways to drive easier 🥰
7:02 you know, I used to think Elon Musk was a real person, but now that an AI book tried to reassure me he is I'm not so certain anymore. Are we sure he wasn't Stable Diffuse'd into existence?
Maybe he's Pinocchio in reverse. Started as a real boy, and wished upon a star to become a puppet.
How sure are we that Pinely isn't actually an AI made by Evil Pinely
Seeing this shit always make me feel discouraged to write and such, but I try to remind myself that I'm the only one who can write stories in my head the way I want them to be and I can be in control of the books that i buy and read.
Yeah even if i were to perfectly describe my story the ai would genericize it so bad. Like "oh you have Y theme in your work?? This other work has Y theme so i am going to plagairize it for you". Plus ai can only make thing out of prexsisting concepts, so if you are writing something new (:cough: professinal studies, medical journals, and chatbot therapy :cough:) the ai will just hallucinate.
i wish you all the best for writing! my friend handwrites her stories as a hobby for herself and i've been reading her work for years, and she's only getting better and better and i'm also happy that she has an outlet for herself as well as a source of inspiration to think deeper as well as read other books. i see the joy and inner peace that writing brings my friend through the worst of our school times, and i hope that it brings you the same joys too, regardless of all the capitalistic tyrants trying to turn our souls into profit.
ps: i often don't get notifications on yt for some reason but if you (or anybody else reading this) have any writings to share, please always tag me with your stuff!!! i love reading stuff for other people!!!
If you have a story to tell, you have something that people will always be drawn to. Good luck!!
I don't think someone should call themselves an author if it takes them less time to "create" a book than it takes for someone to read their book.
this guy isnt even evil
Ye, Evil Pinely is
Wrong channel. This is pinely
Atomic Shrimp (a forager and a youtuber among other things) made a great video about the scammy ai mushroom books! I recommend that one as well if anyone wants to look more into it!
I love that guy
And now NaNoWriMo has officially endorsed the use of AI... IF ANYONE IN THE COMMENTS IS THINKING ABOUT DOING NANOWRIMO I would not put it past them to take your word submissions and give them over to AI gen tools- be careful out there
It's frustrating to see them try to use the excuse of "well if you're against AI, you're ableist and classist"
0:23
This is a really big issue within the mycological community. Lots of people try and market AI tools for IDing fungi whenever to ID fungi you may often need the precision of the human brain to be able to parse very similar details apart and in plenty of cases even specific chemical/DNA tests as well as microscopy of microscopic structures such as spores. There is a lot that goes into IDing fungi and it is best to always leave it to the human mind and the credible tools we already have at our disposal.
And, for the record, we could NEVER trust mushrooms at face value, nor any fungus for that matter. They are VERY deceptive and even poisonous sometimes. But it's alright to trust them once you get to know them like many mycologists and mycology enthusiasts, of course.
I did a paper in biology on lichens where I was out in the forest trying to id them. I very quickly came to the conclusion that as a layman I couldn't. I could say that they were probably this or that species - sometimes I couldn't even be sure if they were the same or if it was even a lichen at all. My conclusion became that I couldn't reach any conclusions because I was not trained to identify lichens. Same would probably have been true for mushrooms - although at least there are better books for them...
@@CainXVII Lichens are VERY niche even for many Mycologists. The Dothideomyceta (lichenized fungi classes) as a whole is very hard to navigate and typically requires a lot of tests and observational details to come to any real conclusions. I'm definitely more into the Agaricomycetes and other mushrooms outside of that class, which can definitely still be as tedious as lichens to ID, with the main difference being that lichens overall are harder to ID and also far more understudied. Even with the notion that AI could learn to parse out the minute physical characteristics of fungi that humans even have trouble identifying, there are still plenty of fungi where these details straight up don't matter for identification and still plenty of fungi that require actual physical tests to be done for a certain ID.
0:25 I JUST SAW A VIDEO TODAY ABOUT SOMEONE SPEAKING ABOUT THE AI GENERATED FORAGING BOOKS AND HOW DANGEROUS THEY ARE?!?!?!?!
Its a terrible terrible idea! The author are of that book needs to be sued honestly.
atomic shrimp? if so, same!
The pixar art style has been absolutely desecrated by AI.
Because it's easy to identify and marketable, aye.
Dude, please stop giving these people money. They don't deserve to get paid for this. It's funny, but it's also absolutely horrible.
I agree! We appreciate the content, of course, but no don't fund their fuckery!
i was thinking the same thing and wondered if anyone else pointed it out. it doesn't matter if you're buying it to make fun of it, they're making that money all the same, they're still getting rewarded for this trash
it’s really hard to emphasize this point without showing how trash the books are though. people could argue “well you’ve never read any of them”
yeah. better one dude buy two books to show us how awful they are, then a bunch of people curious about how bad it could be and purchasing their own to see.
Thank you. Imagine if ‘reading AI books’ became a RUclips trend or something 😰. I genuinely don’t understand the logic behind giving both Amazon and harmful AI garbage any amount of money to make this point tbh.
First they came for the artists, and I did not speak out-because I was not an artist.
Then they came for the movie studios, and I did not speak out-because I was not part of a movie studio.
Then they came for the authors, and I did not speak out-because I was not an author.
Then they came for me-and there was no one left to speak for me.
Ai needs limitations. Speak out for them.
Woof unfortunate timing on the Neil Gaiman shoutout
In a sad way, I'm not shocked to see Neil Gaiman is actually a piece of shit (he did marry Amanda Palmer for awhile)
Yeah
in California right now theres a video circulating about one of those food delivery robots legit walking through a active crime scene and the cops dont have a clue about what to do about it. Ai should definitely be regulated by laws before we EVER release it to the pubilc
Pick it up, move it to the other side, put it down. It'll trigger the human intervention alarm - the bot will sit there until a remote operator from Vietnam earning two dollars a day takes over control and steers it back on course.
3:51 'like the queen of England, this one is in bread' 😭😭😭
The audacity to say "I wrote a book" or "co-authored with AI" is peak Dunning-Kruger effect. They don't even know how clueless they are about the writing process, even though it's really easy to look this stuff up. At best they did some amateur editing, the "author" of those garbage books is still just the AI alone.
@@rustkitty i wrote a book and self published, using ai. Does this upset you?
@@RealAICCl No, the only emotion it elicits is pity.
@@rustkitty thats sad, poor you.
@@RealAICClhold up, what exactly did you write?
@@green5260 a self help book
Self-published author here (No AI, never AI). As others have said, it's insanely disheartening to see the books we put years of work getting ignored while this low quality slop is out there making a ton because people can just pump it out.
07:53 That sounds illegal??
It sounds like a 17th century demon trying to trick you into a immortal covenant
5:24 You didn’t know that Elon musk is so intelligent that he was able to clone himself when he was a child?
It says “dreams” all the time because even AI couldn’t find anything Musk has actually done.
"at a very young age, elon developed a life-long obsession with invent things that already existed"
@@matheussanthiago9685 "He just kept buying things and then claiming he invented them"
the layers of irony under this comment thread is beautiful. ai generation committing plagiarism and just regurgitating already written works. elon musk the owner of tesla motors. nikola tesla getting ripped off by thomas edison. beautiful. absolutely beautiful.
tbh i'm kinda glad that people are finding out how bad AI actually is lol
People have known are you under a rock half of the time
there is overwhelming support for AI still, and anyone who's not chronically online tbh probably doesn't totally grasp the magnitude of what's going on.
Ahh give It a year or two and I think it'll get alot better. Scary indeed
The "I Want More Infinity Train" book in the Pine Library is so real 😞
Bro missed a big opportunity to say this book gets really MESSI 8:02
i think the joke was that he didn’t say it despite knowing the pun
Exactly @@polipix_
It was on purpose 😂
Why does every single one of the people in the children’s books look like Dream from the Mask music video 😭😭 8:19
my grown ass brother keeps "writing" AI books and i keep telling him "if your younger sibling can write entire film scripts with no ai or help you can write a kids book" like dude just write about a bear doing a handstand its so easy and kids would love that 💀
dang. yo bro sucks
You know who else is ruining books? my mom
WHOOOOO
HIGH FIVE!!
I didn’t know Colleen Hoover had kids…
BUUUURNNN
FRICKIN. EPIC. SAUCE.
ai generated elon musk fanfiction is CRAZYYYYYY
it look like its writing by elon himself
Part of the problem is that Amazon also has ACX (Amazon Creation eXchange), which is the Audible version of KDP. While it allows for both self-narration and freelance commissioned narrators, it also has AI narration as well. From my experience, as an author and narrator of my own books, the majority of sales do come through audible and audiobook formats. Understandable. So the issue here is that, ironically, even if you go through the effort of writing a book yourself, you're kind of punished for not using AI (in place of your own quality recordings). So if you do use AI to create "content", you have an extra revenue source through AI narrations. It's sending mixed messages.
i love how pinely slips in these lil tidbit pieces of art, sometimes its a lil goofy animation or illustration or a set-piece like this. it's so cool
I wanna read some of the books in the background. Like Frogs, and Frogs 2 (More Frogs). I genuinely wanna read them. And perchance some Minions: A Love Story, if I'm feeling frisky.
I do wonder what goes through the head of someone who produces an AI book do they genuinely feel proud or has greed consumed them to a level they are indifferent to how they get money.
@@Alex-cw3rz well I’m someone who actually made an AI book self published it and is very proud of himself. Feel free to ask me anything. I’m not doing it for money.
@@RealAICClif you're not doing it for the grind, that's kinda sad
@@green5260 just the love of the game
Oh god, that first one… I just watched an Atomic Shrimp video on AI foraging guides 😭
Being an author without any big breaks has never felt so shit as it does now
my autistic ass could not handle the segment around 17 minutes because the background music sounds like my morning alarm and it's stressing me out 😭😭😭
pinely’s yapping starts at 0:01
Timestamp for when the yapping ends? I don't have the energy to scrub through 38 minutes to find out
@@silentyehl6169 yapping stops at 38:29
I would say those AI generated Taylor Swift and Elon Musk books are a ripoff of a really cute series called Little people, big dreams that are children's books on the same theme. They have done Taylor Swift, Mandela, Einstein, famous women scientists, some men/women in sports, so on. All hand drawn, very cute
The idea of ai slop being sold unknowingly in major retailors or just sitting on a shelf in a public library somewhere is absolutely horrifying to me
Any parent who buys their child a book about Elon Musk, AI or not, should get a visit from CPS
AI is ruining everything.
Just as Angela Collier predicted.
generative ai mostly
Hi hobby author here, something I feel when I finish my book it will get drown in the sea of this AI garbage, I'm not a guy in for the money, it's mostly just me wanting to make something, but like I do want some money
That book about Elon Musk really disgusted me, I was wondering who wrote this crap? Oh right, AI wrote this crap. I guess it’s because they wanted to kiss his butt so badly.
Nah. They just wanted the money from people who do love him.
29:00 I can't believe memeulous has finally shared how he became a millionaire
Was looking for this for so long, was so sure the voice was his!
"like the queen of england this one's in bread"😭😭
inbred?
ATP Eddy, drew, and pinley all making videos about AI is actually a cry for help
Unsurprisingly, "democratizing" art, by letting anyone do shit without even learning lowers the quality of work, and invites grifters to the medium.
Yeah, this is the thing about generative AI. If you want more control over the finished work, you have to already understand the fundamentals. Just generating a written piece using AI without knowing how to improve it based on criticism or to inspire your own work is a potent recipe for failure. It's not a replacement for learning how to do it manually if you intend to work at a professional level.
I do not think it can be called art if a human did not make it
6:21 Did he find any emeralds while he was down there?
That Elon Musk book was like at least less than 300 words, and they still needed to use AI to write it. That is so creatively bankrupt I cannot imagine what type of person could need that
It's so funny to me that Shawn's stupid ass "elite" course that'll just teach you how to enter a prompt costs WAAAAAY more than actual creative writing classes. Like the most prestigious classes. Oh my god.
Pine Library should be a recurring bit
Bruh Mr. C sounds exactly like George Memeulous lol. Like, it is scarily on point
I was thinking GeorgeM or ImAlexx 😖
It is lol. Its a recreation of the actual call.
unfortunate neil gaiman moment for the day
As a mushroom forager, you could never trust the mushrooms
I'm so glad I took up art after getting a better antidepressant. There seems to really be a future in this field, I'm sure there's a lot of job security waiting for me!
well i would hope you also are passionate about it and didn't just do it for the career prospects 😅 they weren't even all that great before Ai unfortunately
@@ollieollieoxenfree3246 lol ofc, I have other passions that I'm willing to sacrifice to the capitalist meat grinder, art is something I probably won't ever make money off because the financial incentive adds too many creative restrictions. I just used that to convey that art's future is looking pretty bleak
i miss when art truly flourished and being an artist was the rage. i hate this new age where you gain success by licking capitalist boots.
The fact that the book “Lord of the Too Many Fingers and Rings” written by Pinely would still be more creative and interesting to read than an AI book……..😂
I am now over 40 and I have been waiting for an Apple Watch app for men over 40 book literally my whole life.