Saw a bunch of comments about the ad read, I'll state this for the sake of clarity - I used their mask for about a month before I took the deal, and still use it often, although I understand how some ppl might not believe this since I just did a sponsor by them, but that is the truth. I also saw that their amazon page has really good reviews, and had the product recommended to me a while back by a friend when I mentioned my sleeping problem. I saw the comment about their BBB page, so I looked into it - it has 4 complaints over a 3 year stretch, which is considered low generally - their BBB rating comes from them not responding to 2 out of these 4 costumer complaints. That said, this is something I should've looked into in advance, im sorry
good on you for saying that, it always pays to do more research. however; the masks come at an extremely high price point that you don't mention in the read, which makes it feel deceptive - especially if you got the product for free, which will alter your view of its value. intentionally or not, these are the sort of things that get skirted over on dodgy tiktok ads too. it just came across as irresponsible and lacking in clarity.
People are being too hard on you, manta sleep masks are 100% worth the money, i use mine every night and have never found a cheaper one that compares at all
@@Creativekylie unfortunately it's still an effective way to silence people. even if a lawsuit is bogus, the person being sued can get buried in legal fees trying to defend themselves
@@michelleb2722 sky defense would still have to spend a lot of money to hire a lawyer to begin with and then she’d have to go after a lot of people… I do wonder how much she’s raking in from her scam she might be able to afford it?
Exploiting a market of mostly young women scared for their safety by selling them cheap self defense products that could possibly put them in more harm lands you a special place in hell. Like they're literally profiting from a real awfull reality, you have to be a special kind of dirtbag it makes me sick.
there's a mlm that does this too. not only do they "employ" women who will never make money selling their product, they then have those women target and suck money out of vulnerable women who are most likely either in a dangerous situation or know someone who is and sell to them with the full intention of making them join the downline and go bankrupt too
When you said that TikTok banned these gambling-type lives I realized how long it’s been since I’ve seen one of them. No more scoops, no more oyster shucking. I’m glad.
@@charlotte-xl6li I think it was something about pearls and being able to buy your own oysters and possibly (as in, like, one in twenty chance to find their planted pearls) get your own pearls. I may be misremembering the scam though.
@@charlotte-xl6li Yeah, apparently so! The operation is multi-level-marketing based, meaning the sellers received batches of stinky, dead decaying oysters... (ew) with artificially coloured pearls inside to shuck and sell! I'm very glad they've been removed from tiktok but they still have operations on facebook live so :/ shucks (i got this information from a really informative video which i think is a great watch! :) "Exposing the SCAM behind Tiktok pearl parties" by Isabella Lanter)
This might be a stretch, but I’m convinced these 5-star negative reviews are to get around the company owners deleting bad reviews. I’ve heard of App Store reviews having to do this because app developers would unjustly take down any reviews under 4 stars.
Either that or (some don't know to select 1 star) or a company has a script copy random reviews to be not marked as bots. Of course said script would set them to 5 stars regardless of the content it copied)
I hate the drop shipping self defense market, because you have to be a special kind of garbage to sell bad self defense items. Like I wouldn’t be able to take the guilt of knowing someone could get hurt because they thrusted me to provide good self defense items but it’s all cheap shit.
Don't be. If you're buying random self defense items you probably don't know how to use them anyway and will die regardless. In a life and death situation you're probably fucked anyway if you don't have a gun too.
I definitely would hate to get "thrusted" to provide self defense items. Sorry! I know what you meant but it made me chuckle reading that. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
@@jithepileofamorphouseyes88 the worst one is safetyboutique on here, she charges $60 for a thing of self defense keychains and then makes up stories about customers to go viral
My sister was assaulted about 6 years ago and has become very paranoid about her safety. I always see her with these self defense things and feel terrible for both the scammy nature of it (the products suck) and the way she feels she has to protect herself 😓
Unfortunately, those are the only products we have access to unless they start making higher end self-defense products more readily available for people to just purchase I really don't see her having a better option- as somebody who was sexually assaulted I carry around a hello kitty pocket knife and pray to God that I'm safe because I have a giant metal water bottle as well like you use what you can, and if it breaks after she uses it, that means that at least she had something to defend herself with
I don't think this scam is OK but I don't think there's a better way to get self-defense weapons other than Amazon or another drop shipper unless you get them custom-made or go to an artillery shop which isn't as readily accessible and can be pricey
@@Atlasintokyo Don’t carry a knife for self defense, a knife is pretty much the worst thing you can choose for this purpose. If it isn’t an automatic loaded one, by the time you pull it form your pocket/bag, unfold it and set it in your hand, the guy has already seen what you were about to do, and you’lol end up the way my uncle did, having your knife ripped off from your hands and used against you, you’ll just make whoever was triying to assault to much angrier at you, and that’s probably the very last thing you want. And if you use an automatic knife like I did (meaning I can have it ready in less than a second) then you’re walking on highly illegal territory. I got arrested for just carrying it in my pocket, because its characteristics which make it a reasonable self defense weapon, make it a frighteningly efficient attacking weapon, if you carry one and get caught, you’re by default going to be considered as if you were about to murder someone, like how I ended up being labelled as « was about to, seeking to, or did commit a crime judging by the weapon(s) [I] was carrying » on my arrestation papers. Plus, unless you have very good training in knife combat, you’re just dead meat walking, a single wrong movement or if your grip is too weak, and you’re guaranteed your knife will be taken away, remember, you’re most likely not the first one they’d have seen, they probably have dozens of fights won even against similarly armed opponents forer probably the course of YEARS. And even if you do succeed, you’ll probably end up in jail if you cripple your aggressor for life or kill him on accident, yeah it sucks but we can’t change that. So instead use something that is meant to make your attacker unable to fight for a few seconds, so that you can flee, most people would recommend a high end pepper spray, I would recommend a tactical flashlight, you can blind the guy, hit him with it, and then run, and since it’s perfectly legal to carry around, you can have it always hanging to your belt for quick access (which is what I do), just avoid the really cheap ones, they’re not powerful enough to properly blind anyone, or they’ll break on impact, or the battery can fuck you up
scoop videos fill me with dread between the scams and the sheer amount of pollution that comes from dropshipping garbage that is going to quickly end up in landfills
1969 is the Unix Epoch. All computers using it count the seconds from that moment to synchronize their clocks. Sometimes when a date isn't given, certain sites misinterpret it as "date = 0" which means 0 seconds since the Unix Epoch (Dec 31 1969 or Jan 1 1970 depending on your timezone)
Yep, just got to that section of the video and was thinking that, I guess maybe deleted/suspended/unverified accounts rather than a regularly used active one?
This reminded me oft a talk by Kevlin Henney, where he points out that C's time() function actually returns -1 on failure. Which is the very last second of Dec 31, 1969. So we can get that year even without any timezones involved.
@@johnmulhall0 Yeah, the Unix epoch is 1/1/1970 00:00:00 UTC. But if you convert that into local time anywhere in the Western hemisphere (e.g. the USA) you get 1969.
The fact that these 25cent gadgets are sold for self defense feels exploitative. Its also gross that quality self defense is really expensive and inaccessible to a lot of people, but it's just really slimy that people are preying on the fears of vulnerable people for a profit on dangerous junk
Cutesy self defense items are pretty common because many people want theirs to be descreet. I personally keep on a cute Kirby lanyard with my keys and other normal cutesy keychains, plus a number of self-defense items that are designed to look innocuous and blend in with everything else. The lanyard makes them really easy for me to grab out of my bag at any moment, but because of how it all looks, most people would think I'm just reaching for my keys. Nothing else in this video is excusable.
@@arissamazumder I have seen a couple people in these comments make similar statements and am curious what the source is for this? Is it federal or just in specific states? I tried to look around my states self defense legislation but can’t find anything. I would love to be pointed in the right direction tho!
@@The_real_stone I just searched it up, got my info wrong. At least in the state of New York (where I live) weapons are simply illegal, and can’t be argued for self defense. And by weapon… the term includes anything that isn’t your fist, although i forgot if phones are included as well
@Volundur9567 Even that might be generous. I've seen lots of 'crystal' sellers on Amazon and Etsy that get complaints that their stuff is just glass. I would assume some of the crystal scooters are the same.
the self defense stuff is because most women sadly have to buy those types of things and some want their stuff to be cutesy/inconspicuous so it can just be on an easy to grab keychain should they ever be in danger and need it. these types of scams especially suck because even if u get the items they’re usually super cheap and do essentially nothing for u 😵💫
what's so bad about it is most those items are considered illegal in many places or would completely void a self-defense plea as they are clearly made for harm, nevermind the fact that many of these need actual training to be remotely useful. not only is it a scam based on value, its a scam based on usability and safety.
@@elingard Plus if you're in a state in the US where something like pepper spray is legal, you can get cute ones that will work at a grocery store. The pepper spray I got is hot pink and was $10 at a Target in Indiana.
Another thing, even if these shops were selling properly durable pocket/utility knives for self defense, that in and of itself is highly dangerous. My dad told me a while ago when I started preparing to move to the city for college: “In a knife fight, one guy dies on the scene, and the other in the hospital.” Knives give a false sense of security when in reality it’s not at all ideal since fights nearly always end up horribly. Stick to the pepper spray and deter attackers instead of going to defend yourself with a knife, chances are that they’ll have one too and you’d be absolutely fucked ten times over Selling the idea that these knives could save your life to impressionable young people is not only dangerous, it’s highly irresponsible and you could easily be held liable. I don’t know how people could live with the knowledge they sold faulty defense items especially when it’s such a large concern TL;DR You don’t fuck around with knives if you don’t know what you’re doing!
My dad taught me something very similar. He told me that if you pull a knife on someone, you’re most likely to be disarmed and die from your own knife. He showed me how to hold my keys for punching instead. He did say that holding a folded pocket knife in your fist works as impromptu brass knuckles tho.
@@angelaatkinson-brazis7104 I heard that keys just destroy your hand more than the attacker. I wish self defense was more accessible and common knowledge, I don't know what's true.
@@angelaatkinson-brazis7104Even that isn’t very effective. Just stick to pepper spray/gel, alarms, and guns ONLY if you’ve taken a lot of time to train and learn gun safety.
Convict/reformed felon, it shocks me good people leave their homes unarmed, I fought for a rights restoration to carry because I know what monsters are out there, ive been in their cages. If you can't become 🔫 proficient, and it's okay it's a lot of responsibility and inconvenience- pepperspray. Pom for keychains and running bands, Sabre Red for MKII/III home/car. It's a rare man who isn't floored by OC and he's usually doing life in solitary. Pom, Amazon, $10. I've eaten it before. NASTY stuff.
Used to be friends with a Lady who ran a knife shop. She also had knife self-defense classes and warned everyone not to assume the weapon itself will keep you safe - it can be snatched by an attacker, escalate the situation, and land you with a lawsuit from the one who attacked, if you leave a mark and they didn't. If you couldn't afford the class, she demonstrated techniques to startle someone long enough to run away. Basically, the whole concept of putting weapons in people's hands and telling them that's safety is wildly irresponsible and will get folks killed.
Congrats, you've fallen for sensationalized click bait!! :) Unregulated cosmetics can have a lot of random shit in them, they use cheap ingredients and chemicals that are not necessarily safe to use. This is because they are in it for PROFIT. But ask yourself what profit is to be gained by packaging poop? You realise people have to work with and package those materials, you really think the average producer is going to handle human feces in their products? To what end? It's not even a cheap material, your own poop is free but then you have a limited supply. You might find one outlier who gets a perverted kick from selling people poop but otherwise what benefit is there to using poop instead of a normal material? Especially when you consider most of these products are being made in countries where contact with poop is much more taboo than you can realize, with religious and societal repercussions to generations of family of someone who works with poop making them an inherently lower class, for example plumbers. You're being ridiculous. Fun fact but many products even in America, if tested, will have trace amounts of poop in them. Chemical testing can detect traces as small as a single worker washing their hands poorly. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you read something like that but you might wanna chill cause going around all THERES POOP THERES POOP IN THE PRODUCTS looks really silly tbh...
Absolutely. Also, that crap is no better or worse than the sponsor he took, so it's kind of ironic he checked their rating on the BBB, but not Manta's lol
@@NoNameNomad.... LOL their rating is only based on 2 negative reviews they didn't respond to, they've been succesfully operating for many years in many different countries. Their products are actually decent, have been using one of their masks for the past 4 years or so? Not 100% sure when I started using the original one, but I'm sure it was from before cov id started. And I recently upgraded. It's not a scam. Maybe some people don't consider the products worth the money, but it's not a total ripoff at all imo
Scoops aside, this has been a very helpful example of how to vet random businesses we find online for legitimacy - shout out to your researcher for all that investigative work
These self defense items are meant to be things women could easily keep on a keychain to defend themselves from attackers. Not only are they scamming people with cheap items, they're also preying on women who feel they need this to stay safe and just want a nice matching set from tiktok. And if something fails or breaks in a desperate situation, they could be helpless.
I'm so glad someone is pointing this out. A lot of these "self defense" weapons either don't work, could harm you, or are just straight up illegal and could get you in more trouble using them to defend yourself than anything else.
the lady at my work keeps buying these self-defense keychains, they're basically the scoops but attached to one giant keychain/lanyard to wear. and she gave me one of the knives that fold into a key.. it's pretty useless for self-defense because it's a folding knife that isn't easy to pull out. i only use it to cut plastic on my pallets at work, because it's sharper than the box cutter i have lol but it's ridiculous how much people will use these as a scam. because the whole gacha thing seemed like a cute way to give little extras to customers if you are running a small business ):
Could you maybe talk to her in a nonjudgmental way about the way she's being preyed upon by unscrupulous sellers? A lot of women feel so unsafe, but this stuff isn't going to help anyone. Maybe even just "hey a guy on RUclips talked about the manufacturers of that stuff!" As an in to the conversation.
I bought one of those little knife keys from a hardware store on sale and its more or less if I need a knife to cut small string/tape bc theres no way its protecting me more than other things I have for defense.
Oh I know those things! Key knifes are flimsy af.. especially towards people. Muscles and skin all that crap are tough for a reason, those knives will not go far and just snap easily.
Holy shit. This is crazy. I was ok sorta thinking maybe these “small businesses” might be a bit scammy, knowing that large businesses do shit too. But the fact that these are just shell companies? We need a Pinely and Coffeezilla cross over.
The reason it says member since 1969 is because something went wrong on the sites end when saving the timestamp of the account creation. 1969 (to be precise, new years eve of 1969-1970, so time 00:00:00, fireworks, etc. sometimes you also see it as 1970) are the default 0 time year, it's essentially the beginning of time for most computer systems, like the big bang beginning of time. year 0. Any time you see a weird timestamp of 1969 or 1970 it's because some error has occurred within a system relating to time and it's defaulting to 0.
I bought two rings on Etsy the other day from two different sellers, one based in Florida and the other in Ukraine. Suspiciously, they both made shipping labels at the exact same time, but one was out of Hollywood Florida, the other was another nearby city. They had slightly different arrival times as well. They arrived in my mailbox together in the same box 🤦🏻
The most alarming part of the fake makeup is that, in my experience, its usually small children that get their hands on these products. Maybe they want to use their parents' makeup, or maybe they will see a makeup influencer online and want to copy them, so instead of paying hundreds of dollars for these kids to, most of the time, waste the products its cheaper to buy a bunch of them bulk.
@@BeansKneezdisplate just took an already existing idea of buying prints and up-charged tf outta it by adding some cheap LED lights to the back of the frame. You’re much better off just buying the prints directly from the artist and getting it framed at Walmart or something
They always use the word “luxury” and also I noticed the word “exquisite” used on almost every single listing on Temu & AliExpress lol. Exquisite step stool, exquisite bowl, exquisite nail file, exquisite lamp shade, etc etc etc everything is EXQUISITE lmao.
Especially the Sanrio ones are very common, they would go saying “$100 scoop!!” And they would give you like cheap plastic bags and office supplies which are way cheaper to get then $100
"who would want to buy somethig cute that can kill you?" Fashionable self defense items are actually a big industry in other countries, particularly asia. Countries which have accepted that predators are a problem and that women dont get enough support so they need to protect themselves, unlike "1st world" english speaking countries which try to sweep this under the rug and act like theres somehing wrong with you if you buy pepper spray lol. These items are not meant to live at the bottom of your purse, they need to be easily accessible, which is unappealing to look at not to mention offputting to others, and worst of all dangerous. Sure you can hang a stun gun from your purse strap, but contrary to popular belief it wont actually stop an attacker from approaching you when they see it, it only helps them to know exactly where to grab to ensure you cant access your self defense item. Now im not saying those dumb shops are selling good items, they should be ashamed of themselves. But they are flourishing precisely BECAUSE there is a desire for this kind of item which is not being filled because america tends to view such a desire as women being paranoid and dangerous, rather than a valid need.
i have my stun gun in my bag at all times. idc if someone sees it and thinks it’s weird. they can stay away from me 🤷♀️ i’d rather be seen as paranoid then be assaulted
Yup, all this ^ I'm a small woman, I like cute stuff, basic self defense items are nice to have when going out and about because predatory people are always going to exist, and it's nice if whatever I have is discreet. These dumb shops scamming people out of money for unhelpful and/or poorly made items is disgusting though
@@ash-is-napping I just checked, the two are pretty much the same thing I think so private labeling and white labeling, but seems like private labeling has to have more reaserch into it so I this case it would be white labeling I believe?
@@ash-is-napping private labeling is when a different company makes something for you/other company specifically, white labeling is when a company buys something generic and labels it with their own brand
And they're faux or just less valuable crystals. When I do random mystery crystal packs, I inspect my inventory, place them in a huge bowl, mix 'em real good and close my eyes, fill up the pouch and put info cards about each crystal that exists in my inventory with picture identification. I also don't charge a huge amount. Where I live is kinda low income, do all my stuff caters to the spiritual needs of our local communities.
I am obsessed with these videos, especially the self defence ones, because they are so weird and so identical and there's so many accounts making them and yet they're all the same. Same horrible nails, same influencer sleeves, same plastic drawers, same thankyou tape, same everything. They all do the same things too, the rage bait things. Like eg at the start where the nail that scrapes along the boxes (or brightly coloured padded envelopes) now usually the nail falls off the finger. And 12000 comments are posted saying " WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE NAIL" ignoring the fact that no one is talking about anything else, and driving engagement up and up... They also do stuff like on an "all green order" "she says she will come to my house and punch me if I use any other colour" and then they put in a pink pompom and then lo and behold 120000 more comments. Or they leave the perfume bottle lid in the drawer. Oh my god. Then there's the so called mystery scoop element where they open the little balls. And yet every single order they assemble contains the exact same elements, three different knives disguised as combs and pens and keys. pepper spray, taser, alarm, whistle, bottle opener, perfume bottle, seat belt cutter, brass knuckles with cat ears, a stick to break windows with. There's never any repeats and they never leave any items out. The mystery balls are a LIE. also, the paper inside is always printed in COMIC SANS and no matter what account it is, they all carry products called "bling bling pepper spray" etc only they spell it BULLING BULLING. ALL of them. I guess that's just more rage bait and I guess it works on me
A couple months ago a girl in my college almost died trying to defend herself from an attacker with fake pepper spray, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I'm scamming people and putting them in danger like that.
the other dodgy thing about selling these as "self defence" items is that in a lot of places, having items on your person that are classed as weapons like pepper spray and knives means that you cannot claim self defence in a court and could face charges for injuring your attacker.
This is one of the issue with girlboss asthetic, ecourages dodgy practice because your a girlboss and being an aesthetic and aspiration for many it can lead them to do many morally dubious things. In the pursuit of something they think will make them happy and in many cases looked up to as successful.
What the heck are you talking about? The self-defense "cutesy" stuff, that is clearly aimed at *women afraid of being assaulted*, or the bullshit nails? Please god let it be the nails
i’d say that’s less an issue with the “girlboss” aesthetic and more an issue with capitalism and the fact that in order to be successful you have to do dodgy things
There's another slightly worrying level as well: They sell these where its entirely illegal. I was morbidly curious and had to look to see if I would be allowed to purchase from one of these stores in the UK, where ALL the products other than like two, are illegal and there would have been zero problems if I was to go on to buy a package. Which brings a more worrying idea of younger people not being aware of these laws ordering something, getting the awful self defence products that also are likely not going to work as they're so ridiculously cheap, and getting in serious trouble, when you consider how young you can get a debit card now a days, and some of these shops do not seem to be age restricted/etc at all as well.
as someone with a genuine small business. micro even. Its impossible to compete with these people on tiktok. their game is strong. and its just a shame people fall for it rather than people who actually make their shit.
18:00 hey there delilah what's it like in michigan, i'm a thousand miles away but girl tonight you look like you need some dropshipped products, yes you do
finally met pinely in the flesh at vidcon this week and was blown away by both how nice and how FREAKISHLY TALL he is. 10/10 would parasocially initiate conversation again.
It's not, it's just good blackout sleep masks. I've been using their masks for like 4 years now (approximately), plural because 6 months ago I purchased a new one because the old one was getting quite bad in spite of washing it. It's honestly a good mask!
In terms of Sky Defense and the self defense market, there's something really sinister about taking advantage of women/people who are AFAB's fear of being assaulted by men to scam them out of their money. Many of us genuinely don't feel safe around men, and using that to sell us cheap items that won't even work when we need it is genuinely very scummy.
It's definitely extra scummy, although doesn't need to be so heavily gendered it's still just as scummy no matter the identity of the buyer/fearful person
@@drewpeacock9087While that’s true, the majority of these kinds of products are aimed towards AFAB people or those who present femme. It’s definitely gendered to a degree
Using "AFABs" to talk about people treated as women and therefore ignoring that transfems (and, to lesser degree, transmascs that are treated as men) exist... Someone save us from this new era bioessentialism, please.
Respectfully, the sponsor is also not BBB accredited and has an F rating Edit: Please see my reply to Pinely's pinned comment for context - I did not mean any harm by this!
At this point in time it’s best to assume every single sponser is garbage and the RUclipsr doesn’t like their product anyways, it’s just the money. It sucks, but sponsors are the only thing keeping our favorite RUclipsrs (especially smaller ones) afloat so I just ignore them
Ahhh the irony 🙄 Although I must admit I do not buy things promoted by influencers, in fact I try not to buy things I don't need (especially crap) but, that said it's pretty hypocritical to talk about the terrible ratings of TicTok crap and then shill something just as crappy.
@@joblessfailure youtubers are not infallible - they can be two-faced like anyone else. not saying pinely is malicious in what sponsors he accepts ofc, but no youtuber is a saint.
Literally. I carry a keychain from a small business in the UK with a nice theme going on, because after what happened to Sarah Everard and realising that I was about to be getting into taxis with random men for my uni commute, it hit home that I needed to protect myself. It's cute enough that I can have it on my lap without it looking suspicious, and it also helps me to make sure my medication is with me wherever I go. If I don't feel the black pompom in my bag, I know that I need to go and find my keychain.
ong, i carry a small sewing kit with me when i know im going to be walking home alone at night (im 16 so its usually just from my uncles house but i dont trust any of my neighbors) mostly because i like sewing whenever i can but also because it has a sharp pair of scissors in case of emergencies
@@RubyCow8567Obviously, if you think about it you wouldn't want to have some tactical camo skinned pepper spray because that doesn't look discrete. That's the appeal of making it look cute.
I watch a creator on tiktok who runs a small business for witchy and crystal girlies. She does mystery scoops, but she's so honest about it and shows the prices, which are fair for the products she sells. Not all mystery scoops are evil. Some are genuine and i love this creator
Still not as weird as the oyster-shucking pearl scam. Always enjoy your detective work. So many commentary channels just show TikToks and be like "wow, thats weird!" and go no further
@@raisinbrancerealofficial They put cheap brightly colored pearls into oysters, glue them shut and seal them in formaldehyde filled pouches. Then people will pay for the seller to shuck (open) them on live stream and they get the supposedly valuable pearl.
@@raisinbrancerealofficialI think it’s TikTok’s where they go up to oysters that they put some artificial pearls in and then gouge it out of the oysters to make it seem real
So frustrating to see people being successful making awful scam sales mystery box garbage meanwhile I'm spending hours and hours making legitimate art for people AND making actually decent content surrounding the creation process. I'm not trying to self promote, it's just sad and frustrating that good content doesn't get rewarded. Like why do I even try
Yeah, are people even stopping to consider cats???? I’m sure if my cats knew how/would deign to lower themselves to feed themselves they’d get rid of me in an instant. Yet people love cats!
The cutesy cat knuckle stabber is actually illegal in some states and the fact that there are minors buying these junk “defense” stuff is scary. I know one woman had been called out for charging insane amounts of money for cheap broken garbage. But then again if you are willing to pay extra to have your order packed on a live, maybe you should be scammed. What a waste of money. My daughter carries pepper spray, pepper spray bought directly from the police department
Bruh there was this time on TikTok where girls would show off their kitty claws or like cute pepper sprays or cute tasers and I’m all for women protecting themselves HOWEVER there were so many (there’s probably guys that still comment this) that would comment stuff like “this wouldn’t stop me” “that won’t do anything to me” and other nasty comments basically implying that they would and COULD harass a girl still even if they used that on them… and yk… i think they’re right. GET A BIGGER TASER, GET A BIGGER POCKET KNIFE, OR GET BEAR MACE INSTEAD. It’s disturbing that people even “joke” about that. I believe women should get heavy duty self defense weapons so that if men really think that way they can fuck around and find out ☺️
you sound kinda deranged lol. if you really believe that random men online saying stupid sh!t is representative of how all men are, i'd suggest talking a man in real life (judging by your comment it seems like you don't) and perhaps getting a therapist.
tbh i think the people who buy the mystery ball crap never went to those gum ball machines as a kid where you put in the quarter, turn the crank, and recieve this little pod thing with a random trinket in it. at least the value of those little things were much closer to the value you paid than this stuff is.
Sometimes these scammers will pack an online order with real, expensive items on their TikTok’s, but when it gets sent to the person, it’s different, cheaper items
They all say 1969 because January 1st 1970 is the start of UNIX time, it's a date and time widely used in computers as a starting point, some programs run into errors when that's not set correctly or bugged and the time goes back to right before the start, 1969, so someone probably didn't configure their bot's time correctly.
From my understanding, the self defence items are targeted towards afab people who don’t feel safe walking in public. The tasers don’t work well (I’ve heard some people saying they’ve had to use them and they did NOT stop their attacker) the items are cheap and terrible , and it feels exploitative and gross
Tbf women don’t feel safe walking about sometimes, a lot of the time. I’m not gonna say these things are good, cause their business seems scammy. But I carry a tactical baton when I’m out on my own on a hike or whatever (a reaction to having previously been attacked and a choice that just makes me feel like I have a bit more control/options if I’m attacked again). If I could have that tactical baton be cute aesthetically then I wouldn’t say no. But I’m not gonna pay pink tax on a practical item for the sake of it either.
@@Nataniahuahu yeah those definitely are. But you could argue women are paying more for this cheap crap because it’s “cute”. As per what pinely was saying about the aesthetics. However, I stand by whilst that’s deffo a scam and drop shipping bull crap, that doesn’t mean self defense items are not a valid purchase. Just assuming you get safe ones from trusted legit sources and not some tiktok crook.
Women definitely should carry something to defend themselves with (which is the really sad reality). I personally feel like having something cute can make it feel more empowering, like yeah I can kick your a** and I'm gonna look cute doing it. The problem is these dropshippers are just selling garbage. You don't want your baton or pepper spray or whatever to fall apart the second you actually have to use it.
@@tallemajas he’s literally like why would you want to walk around with something that you could kill someone with (or to that effect). Like yeah, some of us feel the need to.
Hinge knives like that aren't meant for stabbing - they are slashing weapons. It takes way more strength and mental fortitude to stab someone than you'd think. The idea is to cause them pain and annoyance so they stop pursuing you
Im ngl i just bought a knife from an army supply store. It was $50 but at least i know its quality and wont shatter in my hands if i use it for defence. Technically its illegal to carry stuff for self defence so i just tell people i like fishing and camping, which technically is true.
The worst part abt the whole “mystery scoop” things now is that they’ve turned into kidnapped models modeling clothes the buyer can buy off their scam website ☹️
Not dropshipping if she's got the stock on her. Dropshipping isn't just "item made in china, that is bad" dropshipping is bad specifically because the person isn't holding the stock so can't verify it's quality, doesn't disclose that it's coming from further away so will take longer, and leaves the shipping to a third-party company. You can't just call anything you don't like "dropshipping" the word has a very specific meaning.
I am so sick of tik tok dude. I want people to REALIZE they aren't thinking for themselves at all if they haven't realized already. It's getting scary dude I miss being a kid sometimes, I do not like the current state of the internet
Saw a bunch of comments about the ad read, I'll state this for the sake of clarity - I used their mask for about a month before I took the deal, and still use it often, although I understand how some ppl might not believe this since I just did a sponsor by them, but that is the truth. I also saw that their amazon page has really good reviews, and had the product recommended to me a while back by a friend when I mentioned my sleeping problem. I saw the comment about their BBB page, so I looked into it - it has 4 complaints over a 3 year stretch, which is considered low generally - their BBB rating comes from them not responding to 2 out of these 4 costumer complaints. That said, this is something I should've looked into in advance, im sorry
Evil Pinely and Pinely are like the Cramp twins, but based
good on you for saying that, it always pays to do more research.
however; the masks come at an extremely high price point that you don't mention in the read, which makes it feel deceptive - especially if you got the product for free, which will alter your view of its value.
intentionally or not, these are the sort of things that get skirted over on dodgy tiktok ads too. it just came across as irresponsible and lacking in clarity.
@@newsletterclub327 you're reaching a bit calling it deceptive & comparing it to the tiktok scams.... You need to chillllllll 😅
People are being too hard on you, manta sleep masks are 100% worth the money, i use mine every night and have never found a cheaper one that compares at all
@@newsletterclub327he probably couldn’t criticize something like that in the ad read…. idk man get that bag
Oh, dont forget! Sky defense is trying to sue another tiktok creator for speaking up about their scam!
Really?
@@Lunabyes that will just be funny, they have no grounds to try and silence people for reporting on them 😂 it’ll just waste their own time and money
@@Creativekylieimagine trusting a court system rn
@@Creativekylie unfortunately it's still an effective way to silence people. even if a lawsuit is bogus, the person being sued can get buried in legal fees trying to defend themselves
@@michelleb2722 sky defense would still have to spend a lot of money to hire a lawyer to begin with and then she’d have to go after a lot of people… I do wonder how much she’s raking in from her scam she might be able to afford it?
Exploiting a market of mostly young women scared for their safety by selling them cheap self defense products that could possibly put them in more harm lands you a special place in hell.
Like they're literally profiting from a real awfull reality, you have to be a special kind of dirtbag it makes me sick.
there's a mlm that does this too. not only do they "employ" women who will never make money selling their product, they then have those women target and suck money out of vulnerable women who are most likely either in a dangerous situation or know someone who is and sell to them with the full intention of making them join the downline and go bankrupt too
Damsel in defense!!!! Disgusting 🤢🤢
@@kicknate195what does this mean
@@waffles1686I think it's another mlm that does something similar, might be the one the person above mentioned
@@waffles1686 i think its the mlm scam name
When you said that TikTok banned these gambling-type lives I realized how long it’s been since I’ve seen one of them. No more scoops, no more oyster shucking. I’m glad.
omg what was the deal with those oyster shucking lives?? they were gambling related??
@@charlotte-xl6li Isabella Lanter has done some videos on them. It’s a type of MLM I guess
@@charlotte-xl6li I think it was something about pearls and being able to buy your own oysters and possibly (as in, like, one in twenty chance to find their planted pearls) get your own pearls. I may be misremembering the scam though.
@@charlotte-xl6li they're MLMs/pyramid schemes
@@charlotte-xl6li Yeah, apparently so! The operation is multi-level-marketing based, meaning the sellers received batches of stinky, dead decaying oysters... (ew) with artificially coloured pearls inside to shuck and sell!
I'm very glad they've been removed from tiktok but they still have operations on facebook live so :/ shucks
(i got this information from a really informative video which i think is a great watch! :) "Exposing the SCAM behind Tiktok pearl parties" by Isabella Lanter)
This might be a stretch, but I’m convinced these 5-star negative reviews are to get around the company owners deleting bad reviews. I’ve heard of App Store reviews having to do this because app developers would unjustly take down any reviews under 4 stars.
Had the same thought as well.
Company owners should not be allowed to take down any reviews unless there's a really good reason for it
Either that or (some don't know to select 1 star) or a company has a script copy random reviews to be not marked as bots. Of course said script would set them to 5 stars regardless of the content it copied)
@@myra0224 but what about fake/scam reviews
Yep
ive had numerous google play app reviews i made get removed all because the developer hated my response
I hate the drop shipping self defense market, because you have to be a special kind of garbage to sell bad self defense items.
Like I wouldn’t be able to take the guilt of knowing someone could get hurt because they thrusted me to provide good self defense items but it’s all cheap shit.
Don't be. If you're buying random self defense items you probably don't know how to use them anyway and will die regardless. In a life and death situation you're probably fucked anyway if you don't have a gun too.
I definitely would hate to get "thrusted" to provide self defense items. Sorry! I know what you meant but it made me chuckle reading that. I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Especially since majority of the consumers are young women who are often targeted by attacks who could easily overpower them
Dropshipping itself is a pile of dung.
@@jithepileofamorphouseyes88 the worst one is safetyboutique on here, she charges $60 for a thing of self defense keychains and then makes up stories about customers to go viral
Pinely may think this is a scam... But Evil Pinely would not fall for such bollocks
evil pinely esq. running their own scam
I swear I've seen you in another comment section 💀
@@The_evil_ramen the tally hall stuff?
@@SmattestBobbie248 YEAH!
@@SmattestBobbie248TALLY HALL MENTION?!?!?
My sister was assaulted about 6 years ago and has become very paranoid about her safety. I always see her with these self defense things and feel terrible for both the scammy nature of it (the products suck) and the way she feels she has to protect herself 😓
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope that your sister gets the help she needs and is able to begin feeling safer again ❤❤
Unfortunately, those are the only products we have access to unless they start making higher end self-defense products more readily available for people to just purchase I really don't see her having a better option- as somebody who was sexually assaulted I carry around a hello kitty pocket knife and pray to God that I'm safe because I have a giant metal water bottle as well like you use what you can, and if it breaks after she uses it, that means that at least she had something to defend herself with
I don't think this scam is OK but I don't think there's a better way to get self-defense weapons other than Amazon or another drop shipper unless you get them custom-made or go to an artillery shop which isn't as readily accessible and can be pricey
@@Atlasintokyo Don’t carry a knife for self defense, a knife is pretty much the worst thing you can choose for this purpose. If it isn’t an automatic loaded one, by the time you pull it form your pocket/bag, unfold it and set it in your hand, the guy has already seen what you were about to do, and you’lol end up the way my uncle did, having your knife ripped off from your hands and used against you, you’ll just make whoever was triying to assault to much angrier at you, and that’s probably the very last thing you want. And if you use an automatic knife like I did (meaning I can have it ready in less than a second) then you’re walking on highly illegal territory. I got arrested for just carrying it in my pocket, because its characteristics which make it a reasonable self defense weapon, make it a frighteningly efficient attacking weapon, if you carry one and get caught, you’re by default going to be considered as if you were about to murder someone, like how I ended up being labelled as « was about to, seeking to, or did commit a crime judging by the weapon(s) [I] was carrying » on my arrestation papers.
Plus, unless you have very good training in knife combat, you’re just dead meat walking, a single wrong movement or if your grip is too weak, and you’re guaranteed your knife will be taken away, remember, you’re most likely not the first one they’d have seen, they probably have dozens of fights won even against similarly armed opponents forer probably the course of YEARS.
And even if you do succeed, you’ll probably end up in jail if you cripple your aggressor for life or kill him on accident, yeah it sucks but we can’t change that.
So instead use something that is meant to make your attacker unable to fight for a few seconds, so that you can flee, most people would recommend a high end pepper spray, I would recommend a tactical flashlight, you can blind the guy, hit him with it, and then run, and since it’s perfectly legal to carry around, you can have it always hanging to your belt for quick access (which is what I do), just avoid the really cheap ones, they’re not powerful enough to properly blind anyone, or they’ll break on impact, or the battery can fuck you up
@@Atlasintokyo The problem is making it more accessible for protection, means it's also more accessible for harm too.
scoop videos fill me with dread between the scams and the sheer amount of pollution that comes from dropshipping garbage that is going to quickly end up in landfills
1969 is the Unix Epoch. All computers using it count the seconds from that moment to synchronize their clocks. Sometimes when a date isn't given, certain sites misinterpret it as "date = 0" which means 0 seconds since the Unix Epoch (Dec 31 1969 or Jan 1 1970 depending on your timezone)
Yep, just got to that section of the video and was thinking that, I guess maybe deleted/suspended/unverified accounts rather than a regularly used active one?
Was just going down to the comments to write this🤓
Guess I have to be faster next time
I thought 1970 was the Unix epoch and 1960 the SAS epoch
This reminded me oft a talk by Kevlin Henney, where he points out that C's time() function actually returns -1 on failure. Which is the very last second of Dec 31, 1969. So we can get that year even without any timezones involved.
@@johnmulhall0 Yeah, the Unix epoch is 1/1/1970 00:00:00 UTC. But if you convert that into local time anywhere in the Western hemisphere (e.g. the USA) you get 1969.
The fact that these 25cent gadgets are sold for self defense feels exploitative. Its also gross that quality self defense is really expensive and inaccessible to a lot of people, but it's just really slimy that people are preying on the fears of vulnerable people for a profit on dangerous junk
It's gross that high quality things cost more than low quality ones?
A sabre pepper gel keychain is around $12. Not as cheap, but most people could make that work.
Cutesy self defense items are pretty common because many people want theirs to be descreet. I personally keep on a cute Kirby lanyard with my keys and other normal cutesy keychains, plus a number of self-defense items that are designed to look innocuous and blend in with everything else. The lanyard makes them really easy for me to grab out of my bag at any moment, but because of how it all looks, most people would think I'm just reaching for my keys.
Nothing else in this video is excusable.
Including the crappy sponsor
actually, since those items dont clearly state their intended use, they're void from self-defense
@@arissamazumder I have seen a couple people in these comments make similar statements and am curious what the source is for this? Is it federal or just in specific states? I tried to look around my states self defense legislation but can’t find anything. I would love to be pointed in the right direction tho!
@@The_real_stone I just searched it up, got my info wrong. At least in the state of New York (where I live) weapons are simply illegal, and can’t be argued for self defense. And by weapon… the term includes anything that isn’t your fist, although i forgot if phones are included as well
@@The_real_stone although I will include that in the U.S., self defense laws depend on the state, so other commenters are probably not wrong either
I did wonder where all the crystal mystery scoop ladies went
Fr. Y'all know it's just low quality amethyst, green aventurine and obsidian. Cheap and easily available. Ain't no citrine, jade or Garnet in there😂
@@Volundur9567i like obsidian tho never owned it
I still see them sometimes. but not as much as I used to
@Volundur9567 man, I fell for that crystal scoop company and wound up paying $70 for some pointless crap😊
@Volundur9567 Even that might be generous. I've seen lots of 'crystal' sellers on Amazon and Etsy that get complaints that their stuff is just glass. I would assume some of the crystal scooters are the same.
the self defense stuff is because most women sadly have to buy those types of things and some want their stuff to be cutesy/inconspicuous so it can just be on an easy to grab keychain should they ever be in danger and need it. these types of scams especially suck because even if u get the items they’re usually super cheap and do essentially nothing for u 😵💫
what's so bad about it is most those items are considered illegal in many places or would completely void a self-defense plea as they are clearly made for harm, nevermind the fact that many of these need actual training to be remotely useful. not only is it a scam based on value, its a scam based on usability and safety.
Ya like apparently those things can even hurt you smh people are evil
was searching for this comment
@@elingard self defense items being illegal pisses me off so much. It's such bs.
@@elingard Plus if you're in a state in the US where something like pepper spray is legal, you can get cute ones that will work at a grocery store. The pepper spray I got is hot pink and was $10 at a Target in Indiana.
well well well, Pinely remembers his password
he has a second channel
@@3HUNNAGLORYBOYno that's evil pinely and evil pinely will never forget his password because it's written down on cardboard
evil pinely finally gave it back to him
proud to be the 690th like.
LOL
Genuinely didn't realize I was watching a main channel video for a solid 5 minutes of the video
Literally didn’t realise until I read this comment 😂
Didn't realise until he mentioned reaching 500k and so I went to check the subscriber count
I heard him go "on the evil pinely cha-" and I was like HOLD UP MAIN CHANNEL? I'm so used to evil pinely now :D
That's just how good of an imposter that Evil Pinely is~ Pinely should sue for impersonation at this point geeez
Another thing, even if these shops were selling properly durable pocket/utility knives for self defense, that in and of itself is highly dangerous. My dad told me a while ago when I started preparing to move to the city for college: “In a knife fight, one guy dies on the scene, and the other in the hospital.”
Knives give a false sense of security when in reality it’s not at all ideal since fights nearly always end up horribly. Stick to the pepper spray and deter attackers instead of going to defend yourself with a knife, chances are that they’ll have one too and you’d be absolutely fucked ten times over
Selling the idea that these knives could save your life to impressionable young people is not only dangerous, it’s highly irresponsible and you could easily be held liable. I don’t know how people could live with the knowledge they sold faulty defense items especially when it’s such a large concern
TL;DR You don’t fuck around with knives if you don’t know what you’re doing!
My dad taught me something very similar. He told me that if you pull a knife on someone, you’re most likely to be disarmed and die from your own knife. He showed me how to hold my keys for punching instead. He did say that holding a folded pocket knife in your fist works as impromptu brass knuckles tho.
@@angelaatkinson-brazis7104 I heard that keys just destroy your hand more than the attacker. I wish self defense was more accessible and common knowledge, I don't know what's true.
@@angelaatkinson-brazis7104Even that isn’t very effective. Just stick to pepper spray/gel, alarms, and guns ONLY if you’ve taken a lot of time to train and learn gun safety.
@@chickensalad3535 I have an alarm and spray that I carry now a days. Oh and I have a husband lol best defense system right there.
Convict/reformed felon, it shocks me good people leave their homes unarmed, I fought for a rights restoration to carry because I know what monsters are out there, ive been in their cages. If you can't become 🔫 proficient, and it's okay it's a lot of responsibility and inconvenience- pepperspray. Pom for keychains and running bands, Sabre Red for MKII/III home/car. It's a rare man who isn't floored by OC and he's usually doing life in solitary. Pom, Amazon, $10. I've eaten it before. NASTY stuff.
Used to be friends with a Lady who ran a knife shop. She also had knife self-defense classes and warned everyone not to assume the weapon itself will keep you safe - it can be snatched by an attacker, escalate the situation, and land you with a lawsuit from the one who attacked, if you leave a mark and they didn't. If you couldn't afford the class, she demonstrated techniques to startle someone long enough to run away.
Basically, the whole concept of putting weapons in people's hands and telling them that's safety is wildly irresponsible and will get folks killed.
i remember a big drama a couple years back from ali express make up dupes that had actual poop in them, real life faeces in a lipstick
Jaclyn Hill originals?
How come I've never heard of it???
Links please. I wanna know more.
Congrats, you've fallen for sensationalized click bait!! :)
Unregulated cosmetics can have a lot of random shit in them, they use cheap ingredients and chemicals that are not necessarily safe to use. This is because they are in it for PROFIT. But ask yourself what profit is to be gained by packaging poop? You realise people have to work with and package those materials, you really think the average producer is going to handle human feces in their products? To what end? It's not even a cheap material, your own poop is free but then you have a limited supply. You might find one outlier who gets a perverted kick from selling people poop but otherwise what benefit is there to using poop instead of a normal material? Especially when you consider most of these products are being made in countries where contact with poop is much more taboo than you can realize, with religious and societal repercussions to generations of family of someone who works with poop making them an inherently lower class, for example plumbers. You're being ridiculous.
Fun fact but many products even in America, if tested, will have trace amounts of poop in them. Chemical testing can detect traces as small as a single worker washing their hands poorly. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you read something like that but you might wanna chill cause going around all THERES POOP THERES POOP IN THE PRODUCTS looks really silly tbh...
linkus
I feel like mystery scoops are just those virtual crane machines but with extra steps
Absolutely. Also, that crap is no better or worse than the sponsor he took, so it's kind of ironic he checked their rating on the BBB, but not Manta's lol
I feel like a cheap teddy bear would be better for self defense... somehow.
@@NoNameNomad.... LOL their rating is only based on 2 negative reviews they didn't respond to, they've been succesfully operating for many years in many different countries. Their products are actually decent, have been using one of their masks for the past 4 years or so? Not 100% sure when I started using the original one, but I'm sure it was from before cov id started. And I recently upgraded. It's not a scam. Maybe some people don't consider the products worth the money, but it's not a total ripoff at all imo
Scoops aside, this has been a very helpful example of how to vet random businesses we find online for legitimacy - shout out to your researcher for all that investigative work
These self defense items are meant to be things women could easily keep on a keychain to defend themselves from attackers. Not only are they scamming people with cheap items, they're also preying on women who feel they need this to stay safe and just want a nice matching set from tiktok. And if something fails or breaks in a desperate situation, they could be helpless.
TIL that only women can use keychains and self-defense items.
@@m-fh1km now you know damn well that these folks on tiktok target women more than anyone else 🤨
@@m-fh1km you know what i meant jackass. anyone can use but women are the main demographic
I'm so glad someone is pointing this out. A lot of these "self defense" weapons either don't work, could harm you, or are just straight up illegal and could get you in more trouble using them to defend yourself than anything else.
YUP. For example knuckle busters, it's easier to count the places they are legal in than the places they are illegal in.
have never heard somebody go so hard on the yard in "lanyard"
Is it because he's a "DO NOT REDEEM"? Interesting accent
It’s giving Moira Rose
@@Xvladin You're disgusting
the lady at my work keeps buying these self-defense keychains, they're basically the scoops but attached to one giant keychain/lanyard to wear. and she gave me one of the knives that fold into a key.. it's pretty useless for self-defense because it's a folding knife that isn't easy to pull out. i only use it to cut plastic on my pallets at work, because it's sharper than the box cutter i have lol
but it's ridiculous how much people will use these as a scam. because the whole gacha thing seemed like a cute way to give little extras to customers if you are running a small business ):
Could you maybe talk to her in a nonjudgmental way about the way she's being preyed upon by unscrupulous sellers? A lot of women feel so unsafe, but this stuff isn't going to help anyone. Maybe even just "hey a guy on RUclips talked about the manufacturers of that stuff!" As an in to the conversation.
Atleast it's a good box cutter? That means the item isn't a complete waste.
I bought one of those little knife keys from a hardware store on sale and its more or less if I need a knife to cut small string/tape bc theres no way its protecting me more than other things I have for defense.
Oh I know those things! Key knifes are flimsy af.. especially towards people. Muscles and skin all that crap are tough for a reason, those knives will not go far and just snap easily.
Holy shit. This is crazy. I was ok sorta thinking maybe these “small businesses” might be a bit scammy, knowing that large businesses do shit too. But the fact that these are just shell companies? We need a Pinely and Coffeezilla cross over.
OH MY GOD YES PLEAAAAE
“Make up amazing scoop” we all say in unison.
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The reason it says member since 1969 is because something went wrong on the sites end when saving the timestamp of the account creation. 1969 (to be precise, new years eve of 1969-1970, so time 00:00:00, fireworks, etc. sometimes you also see it as 1970) are the default 0 time year, it's essentially the beginning of time for most computer systems, like the big bang beginning of time. year 0.
Any time you see a weird timestamp of 1969 or 1970 it's because some error has occurred within a system relating to time and it's defaulting to 0.
I wonder if the bot creating these accounts is somehow managing to skip a stage in the registration process, which is why it's using the default date.
@@wendyheatherwood Maybe something like "creating an account directly through API calls instead of the website skips the account date registration"
I bought two rings on Etsy the other day from two different sellers, one based in Florida and the other in Ukraine. Suspiciously, they both made shipping labels at the exact same time, but one was out of Hollywood Florida, the other was another nearby city. They had slightly different arrival times as well.
They arrived in my mailbox together in the same box 🤦🏻
Talking about trash... while filming in New Jersey... NOW THAT'S CINEMA
I knew that was blvd east
When jersey was brought up i thought of rise leo lol
The most alarming part of the fake makeup is that, in my experience, its usually small children that get their hands on these products. Maybe they want to use their parents' makeup, or maybe they will see a makeup influencer online and want to copy them, so instead of paying hundreds of dollars for these kids to, most of the time, waste the products its cheaper to buy a bunch of them bulk.
they usually have lead, cadmium, are expired, can give rashes and worse
Filming on your hands and knees next to a garbage can. Iconic
Guys... Guys timezones exist. Like I live in Australia and it's 7PM here right now. Pinely's based in the UK, and it's literally 10AM there.
Timezones? Sounds like a scam. Nice try. If there were timezones in Australia how is Margot Robbie in American movies?!?! Riddle me that, time wizard.
Straya
@@nicematerial Simple. Morgot Robbie is a time traveller.
@@mildlyconcerningI morgot
timezones? obviously a scam what are you even talking about man.
dude this is so random but I REALLY appreciate the fact that you don't use AI art/images in ur content. means a lot to us artists
Manta sleep being the most aliexpress product I've ever seen and being the sponsor I actually thought it was a fcking skit
Me too like the irony is crazy
I’m just glad people aren’t falling for this nonsense anymore-the only sponsor I’ve ever considered reasonable is Nebula/Curiosity stream
It looks like you attach it to a seatbelt
@@Soul-Clutch-Mandisplates posters are good quality. i just wish they'd stay on the dang wall
@@BeansKneezdisplate just took an already existing idea of buying prints and up-charged tf outta it by adding some cheap LED lights to the back of the frame. You’re much better off just buying the prints directly from the artist and getting it framed at Walmart or something
Lilith from Michigan who often gets her name mispronounced was properly spooked
They always use the word “luxury” and also I noticed the word “exquisite” used on almost every single listing on Temu & AliExpress lol. Exquisite step stool, exquisite bowl, exquisite nail file, exquisite lamp shade, etc etc etc everything is EXQUISITE lmao.
Exquisite Corpse
Especially the Sanrio ones are very common, they would go saying “$100 scoop!!” And they would give you like cheap plastic bags and office supplies which are way cheaper to get then $100
I absolutely love the cardboard microphone with the mic clipped onto it lmao brilliant
"who would want to buy somethig cute that can kill you?" Fashionable self defense items are actually a big industry in other countries, particularly asia. Countries which have accepted that predators are a problem and that women dont get enough support so they need to protect themselves, unlike "1st world" english speaking countries which try to sweep this under the rug and act like theres somehing wrong with you if you buy pepper spray lol. These items are not meant to live at the bottom of your purse, they need to be easily accessible, which is unappealing to look at not to mention offputting to others, and worst of all dangerous. Sure you can hang a stun gun from your purse strap, but contrary to popular belief it wont actually stop an attacker from approaching you when they see it, it only helps them to know exactly where to grab to ensure you cant access your self defense item.
Now im not saying those dumb shops are selling good items, they should be ashamed of themselves. But they are flourishing precisely BECAUSE there is a desire for this kind of item which is not being filled because america tends to view such a desire as women being paranoid and dangerous, rather than a valid need.
i have my stun gun in my bag at all times. idc if someone sees it and thinks it’s weird. they can stay away from me 🤷♀️ i’d rather be seen as paranoid then be assaulted
Yup, all this ^ I'm a small woman, I like cute stuff, basic self defense items are nice to have when going out and about because predatory people are always going to exist, and it's nice if whatever I have is discreet. These dumb shops scamming people out of money for unhelpful and/or poorly made items is disgusting though
...but in America you could have a Smith And Wesson bodyguard in cute purple or cyan for a couple hundred bucks, which work, and your toys don't.
@@xxArsen1xx-OnPsnfacts
By the way, dropshipping stuff with custom packaging is called white labeling or somth like that
Private labeling
@@ash-is-napping I just checked, the two are pretty much the same thing I think so private labeling and white labeling, but seems like private labeling has to have more reaserch into it so I this case it would be white labeling I believe?
@@ash-is-napping private labeling is when a different company makes something for you/other company specifically, white labeling is when a company buys something generic and labels it with their own brand
self defense, makeup and crystals (which he didn't mention but are also abundant in this kind of tiktoks)
its vile how it targets women in particular
He did mention the crystals very briefly. He showed a couple clips of them arriving broken.
And they're faux or just less valuable crystals. When I do random mystery crystal packs, I inspect my inventory, place them in a huge bowl, mix 'em real good and close my eyes, fill up the pouch and put info cards about each crystal that exists in my inventory with picture identification. I also don't charge a huge amount. Where I live is kinda low income, do all my stuff caters to the spiritual needs of our local communities.
how would it be any less vile if it targeted men? also, notice how it's mostly women promoting these scams 🤔
I did think the manta sleep sponsor thing was a strap on harness for a few seconds when he first pulled it out
LET'S GO GAMBLING!!
the effects of mercury
AW DANG IT
the effects of lead
AW DANG IT
the effects of arsenic
LMAO I LOVE THIS MEME
I am obsessed with these videos, especially the self defence ones, because they are so weird and so identical and there's so many accounts making them and yet they're all the same. Same horrible nails, same influencer sleeves, same plastic drawers, same thankyou tape, same everything.
They all do the same things too, the rage bait things. Like eg at the start where the nail that scrapes along the boxes (or brightly coloured padded envelopes) now usually the nail falls off the finger. And 12000 comments are posted saying " WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE NAIL" ignoring the fact that no one is talking about anything else, and driving engagement up and up... They also do stuff like on an "all green order" "she says she will come to my house and punch me if I use any other colour" and then they put in a pink pompom and then lo and behold 120000 more comments. Or they leave the perfume bottle lid in the drawer. Oh my god.
Then there's the so called mystery scoop element where they open the little balls. And yet every single order they assemble contains the exact same elements, three different knives disguised as combs and pens and keys. pepper spray, taser, alarm, whistle, bottle opener, perfume bottle, seat belt cutter, brass knuckles with cat ears, a stick to break windows with. There's never any repeats and they never leave any items out. The mystery balls are a LIE.
also, the paper inside is always printed in COMIC SANS and no matter what account it is, they all carry products called "bling bling pepper spray" etc only they spell it BULLING BULLING. ALL of them. I guess that's just more rage bait and I guess it works on me
A couple months ago a girl in my college almost died trying to defend herself from an attacker with fake pepper spray, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night knowing I'm scamming people and putting them in danger like that.
Thank you so much for posting @ 3am 🙏🏾 I'm wide awake lol
the other dodgy thing about selling these as "self defence" items is that in a lot of places, having items on your person that are classed as weapons like pepper spray and knives means that you cannot claim self defence in a court and could face charges for injuring your attacker.
This is one of the issue with girlboss asthetic, ecourages dodgy practice because your a girlboss and being an aesthetic and aspiration for many it can lead them to do many morally dubious things. In the pursuit of something they think will make them happy and in many cases looked up to as successful.
What the heck are you talking about? The self-defense "cutesy" stuff, that is clearly aimed at *women afraid of being assaulted*, or the bullshit nails? Please god let it be the nails
i’d say that’s less an issue with the “girlboss” aesthetic and more an issue with capitalism and the fact that in order to be successful you have to do dodgy things
Tell me why my brain is so anti-advertising omg I was zoned out and immediately when the ad read began I woke from my trance to skip it
There's another slightly worrying level as well: They sell these where its entirely illegal. I was morbidly curious and had to look to see if I would be allowed to purchase from one of these stores in the UK, where ALL the products other than like two, are illegal and there would have been zero problems if I was to go on to buy a package. Which brings a more worrying idea of younger people not being aware of these laws ordering something, getting the awful self defence products that also are likely not going to work as they're so ridiculously cheap, and getting in serious trouble, when you consider how young you can get a debit card now a days, and some of these shops do not seem to be age restricted/etc at all as well.
The items being illegal is probably why so many of them don't show up.
You can summarize this genre as "furnished by Aliexpress"
as someone with a genuine small business. micro even. Its impossible to compete with these people on tiktok. their game is strong. and its just a shame people fall for it rather than people who actually make their shit.
18:00 hey there delilah what's it like in michigan, i'm a thousand miles away but girl tonight you look like you need some dropshipped products, yes you do
wagwan delilah
3:30AM insomnia on the east coast and I get rewarded with a Pinely production. Noice.
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ha nice, it’s 3:40 am where I am
@@thesleepydot either any European country or a African country or in South or north America you could be any where as the time suggests
Ig you have to buy mantasleep now
"Why make self defence itens look like accessories?" - Said the man who has clearly never felt the need to own a self defence item.
Thank you for the gopher shot. Please include more gopher shots, thank you.
finally met pinely in the flesh at vidcon this week and was blown away by both how nice and how FREAKISHLY TALL he is. 10/10 would parasocially initiate conversation again.
the term "small business" became so popular that it became code for scam
Scams and also entitled idiots that people owe them sales on terrible handcrafts 😅
@@heartiko2681”Buy my $300 resin pyramid to stick it to capitalism. I’m a smol business 🥺”
love you pinely, but that sponsor looks sketchy as hell 💀
It is look lol
www.bbb.org/us/wy/jackson/profile/health/manta-sleep-llc-1296-1000123393
It is
It's not, it's just good blackout sleep masks. I've been using their masks for like 4 years now (approximately), plural because 6 months ago I purchased a new one because the old one was getting quite bad in spite of washing it. It's honestly a good mask!
In terms of Sky Defense and the self defense market, there's something really sinister about taking advantage of women/people who are AFAB's fear of being assaulted by men to scam them out of their money. Many of us genuinely don't feel safe around men, and using that to sell us cheap items that won't even work when we need it is genuinely very scummy.
i dislike you
It's definitely extra scummy, although doesn't need to be so heavily gendered it's still just as scummy no matter the identity of the buyer/fearful person
@@drewpeacock9087While that’s true, the majority of these kinds of products are aimed towards AFAB people or those who present femme. It’s definitely gendered to a degree
@@ghoultooth God please just say women, "afab people" is so fucking insulting
Using "AFABs" to talk about people treated as women and therefore ignoring that transfems (and, to lesser degree, transmascs that are treated as men) exist... Someone save us from this new era bioessentialism, please.
Respectfully, the sponsor is also not BBB accredited and has an F rating
Edit: Please see my reply to Pinely's pinned comment for context - I did not mean any harm by this!
At this point in time it’s best to assume every single sponser is garbage and the RUclipsr doesn’t like their product anyways, it’s just the money. It sucks, but sponsors are the only thing keeping our favorite RUclipsrs (especially smaller ones) afloat so I just ignore them
Ahhh the irony 🙄
Although I must admit I do not buy things promoted by influencers, in fact I try not to buy things I don't need (especially crap) but, that said it's pretty hypocritical to talk about the terrible ratings of TicTok crap and then shill something just as crappy.
This dude = 🤡 total hypocrisy
@@joblessfailure youtubers are not infallible - they can be two-faced like anyone else. not saying pinely is malicious in what sponsors he accepts ofc, but no youtuber is a saint.
can confirm, am the CEO of manta sleep
"Why would you want cute things that harm people"
man privilege is real 🤣
Literally. I carry a keychain from a small business in the UK with a nice theme going on, because after what happened to Sarah Everard and realising that I was about to be getting into taxis with random men for my uni commute, it hit home that I needed to protect myself. It's cute enough that I can have it on my lap without it looking suspicious, and it also helps me to make sure my medication is with me wherever I go. If I don't feel the black pompom in my bag, I know that I need to go and find my keychain.
I legit have had the same hello kitty knife on my keychain for five years
ong, i carry a small sewing kit with me when i know im going to be walking home alone at night (im 16 so its usually just from my uncles house but i dont trust any of my neighbors) mostly because i like sewing whenever i can but also because it has a sharp pair of scissors in case of emergencies
I think the 'cute' part was the questioned part, not the defence part?
@@RubyCow8567Obviously, if you think about it you wouldn't want to have some tactical camo skinned pepper spray because that doesn't look discrete. That's the appeal of making it look cute.
I watch a creator on tiktok who runs a small business for witchy and crystal girlies. She does mystery scoops, but she's so honest about it and shows the prices, which are fair for the products she sells. Not all mystery scoops are evil. Some are genuine and i love this creator
is her name cat or something? I have been trying to remember someone like that who I really liked they page for a while now!
Still not as weird as the oyster-shucking pearl scam. Always enjoy your detective work. So many commentary channels just show TikToks and be like "wow, thats weird!" and go no further
What's the oyster shucking scam 😭
@@raisinbrancerealofficial They put cheap brightly colored pearls into oysters, glue them shut and seal them in formaldehyde filled pouches. Then people will pay for the seller to shuck (open) them on live stream and they get the supposedly valuable pearl.
@@raisinbrancerealofficialI think it’s TikTok’s where they go up to oysters that they put some artificial pearls in and then gouge it out of the oysters to make it seem real
@@raisinbrancerealofficialYou buy x number of oysters and they open them on video and send you the pearls that were inside.
I'm with the other guy, please explain
So frustrating to see people being successful making awful scam sales mystery box garbage meanwhile I'm spending hours and hours making legitimate art for people AND making actually decent content surrounding the creation process.
I'm not trying to self promote, it's just sad and frustrating that good content doesn't get rewarded. Like why do I even try
8:58 How did you pronounce dissatisfaction LMAO
1,100% profit, yet claiming it's 1/3rd off, this should just be automatic jailtime.
In certain countries it is
i don't think it's weird to want a cute thing that kills people... can't slay if you ain't cute
Yeah, are people even stopping to consider cats???? I’m sure if my cats knew how/would deign to lower themselves to feed themselves they’d get rid of me in an instant. Yet people love cats!
Slay has two meanings for a reason
Groundhog: exists
Pinely: ???!!!!
The cutesy cat knuckle stabber is actually illegal in some states and the fact that there are minors buying these junk “defense” stuff is scary. I know one woman had been called out for charging insane amounts of money for cheap broken garbage.
But then again if you are willing to pay extra to have your order packed on a live, maybe you should be scammed. What a waste of money. My daughter carries pepper spray, pepper spray bought directly from the police department
Innovation under capitalism: dropshipping and gambling combined into one
Bruh there was this time on TikTok where girls would show off their kitty claws or like cute pepper sprays or cute tasers and I’m all for women protecting themselves HOWEVER there were so many (there’s probably guys that still comment this) that would comment stuff like “this wouldn’t stop me” “that won’t do anything to me” and other nasty comments basically implying that they would and COULD harass a girl still even if they used that on them… and yk… i think they’re right. GET A BIGGER TASER, GET A BIGGER POCKET KNIFE, OR GET BEAR MACE INSTEAD. It’s disturbing that people even “joke” about that. I believe women should get heavy duty self defense weapons so that if men really think that way they can fuck around and find out ☺️
you sound kinda deranged lol. if you really believe that random men online saying stupid sh!t is representative of how all men are, i'd suggest talking a man in real life (judging by your comment it seems like you don't) and perhaps getting a therapist.
how dare you drop this right as i wasn't about to go to bed! guess i'll have to watch the whole thing 😔
so dangerous to give people 'self-defence' items that are useless for self defence....people will get hurt
tbh i think the people who buy the mystery ball crap never went to those gum ball machines as a kid where you put in the quarter, turn the crank, and recieve this little pod thing with a random trinket in it. at least the value of those little things were much closer to the value you paid than this stuff is.
dropshipping is one thing but dropshipping poor quality "self defense" products to take advantage of ppls fears is CRAZY
This isn't drop-shipping. She's got the stock right there.
Sometimes these scammers will pack an online order with real, expensive items on their TikTok’s, but when it gets sent to the person, it’s different, cheaper items
When he said “This plush website” I started screaming “No no this can’t be, THIS CANT BE”
This video has it all:
-Drama
-The outdoors
-An evil corportation
-Conspiracies
-Wicked grandma burns
I really like the cardboard mic you did for your mic, it made me smile
Also I like your shirt, the flowers look very nice
11:20 “look at these guys, what the fu*k” 😭
They all say 1969 because January 1st 1970 is the start of UNIX time, it's a date and time widely used in computers as a starting point, some programs run into errors when that's not set correctly or bugged and the time goes back to right before the start, 1969, so someone probably didn't configure their bot's time correctly.
This video was overall really good but I adore Pinely taking a break from the normal recording to be incredulous about a groundhog
Of course he uploaded it in 2 am, so we buy manta sleep and can finally fall asleep
bro, timezones are a thing, dingleberry
@@SpamTongbutcool DAMN as a based person who approves of based people, the was a frigging savage reply my man.
@@SpamTongbutcool"yes spAmton" we all say [in unison]
From my understanding, the self defence items are targeted towards afab people who don’t feel safe walking in public. The tasers don’t work well (I’ve heard some people saying they’ve had to use them and they did NOT stop their attacker) the items are cheap and terrible , and it feels exploitative and gross
I think you need cardboard sunglasses
Tbf women don’t feel safe walking about sometimes, a lot of the time. I’m not gonna say these things are good, cause their business seems scammy. But I carry a tactical baton when I’m out on my own on a hike or whatever (a reaction to having previously been attacked and a choice that just makes me feel like I have a bit more control/options if I’m attacked again).
If I could have that tactical baton be cute aesthetically then I wouldn’t say no. But I’m not gonna pay pink tax on a practical item for the sake of it either.
Scammy? Pink tax? That's none of that that's straight up dropshipping
@@Nataniahuahu yeah those definitely are. But you could argue women are paying more for this cheap crap because it’s “cute”. As per what pinely was saying about the aesthetics. However, I stand by whilst that’s deffo a scam and drop shipping bull crap, that doesn’t mean self defense items are not a valid purchase. Just assuming you get safe ones from trusted legit sources and not some tiktok crook.
@@NellieNutkins i don't think it was ever implied that buying self defense items was not valid?
Women definitely should carry something to defend themselves with (which is the really sad reality). I personally feel like having something cute can make it feel more empowering, like yeah I can kick your a** and I'm gonna look cute doing it. The problem is these dropshippers are just selling garbage. You don't want your baton or pepper spray or whatever to fall apart the second you actually have to use it.
@@tallemajas he’s literally like why would you want to walk around with something that you could kill someone with (or to that effect). Like yeah, some of us feel the need to.
Hinge knives like that aren't meant for stabbing - they are slashing weapons. It takes way more strength and mental fortitude to stab someone than you'd think. The idea is to cause them pain and annoyance so they stop pursuing you
Im ngl i just bought a knife from an army supply store. It was $50 but at least i know its quality and wont shatter in my hands if i use it for defence. Technically its illegal to carry stuff for self defence so i just tell people i like fishing and camping, which technically is true.
Another critical use: knives are cool
lol When Pinely glances to the side you know someone looking at him funny for talking to himself.
Was not ready for this to vaguely relate to a "Changed" bootleg merch website.
I thought I was losing my fucking mind
The worst part abt the whole “mystery scoop” things now is that they’ve turned into kidnapped models modeling clothes the buyer can buy off their scam website ☹️
They gamified drop shipping 😭
Not dropshipping if she's got the stock on her.
Dropshipping isn't just "item made in china, that is bad" dropshipping is bad specifically because the person isn't holding the stock so can't verify it's quality, doesn't disclose that it's coming from further away so will take longer, and leaves the shipping to a third-party company. You can't just call anything you don't like "dropshipping" the word has a very specific meaning.
I am so sick of tik tok dude. I want people to REALIZE they aren't thinking for themselves at all if they haven't realized already. It's getting scary dude I miss being a kid sometimes, I do not like the current state of the internet
Lead? Bad. Mercury? Bad. Horse urine? Fantastic! It's something my body needs anyway!
"I'm in New York!"
-Evil Pinely, masquerading as regular Pinely, New Jersey 2024
it's literally just yassified dropshipping
Casually putting Changed Merch onscreen is hilarious ngl
As someone from the UK, I’m cackling at all the sleep deprived Americans. Go to sleep all of you smh
no
I’m trying 😔😔
i work night shift 😢
I am very sleep deprived. Thank you for your concern but I cannot sleep any longer :(
seven am and still haven't slept