How Strong Is the Mythical Kraken? (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)
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The Kraken is one of the most feared mythical beasts ever for its ability to pull entire ships down under the waves. But how strong would it have to be to do that? Kyle has the gripping details on this week's Because Science!
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shouldnt you use the avg ship of the day? also tilting the boat displace water aboard would greatly decrease the load, at that point the krac wouldn't need to actually pull that much
Oh my god that pool scene was hilarious
Nerdist please do an episode on how rick would turn into a pickle
PICKLE RICK!!!!
Couldn't you guys figure out the actual strengh of the colossal squid and evaluate wether it could sink an actual ship? Would have made a better episode! :-/
SOoooo, how many satellites could a kraken launch in one throw with one tentacle?
You forgot to take into account, that the Kraken only had to tip over the boat, seawater would then fill the hull lowering its water displacement weight, making it easier for it to drag entire ships under the water..
This video, while fun, misses the key way a kraken would actually pull down a ship, which is by crushing the hull like crushing a sheet of paper into a ball. The hull integrity is null, at this point, meaning that the ship is no longer so voluminous with air, and rather is a collection of broken ship pieces filling up rapidly with ocean water, such that the kraken doesn't even have to exert any effort "pulling" it down.
Atticus I was thinking the exact same thing haha
Exactly
I was abt to type that but ....U made it first
Atticus The video literally acknowledges it. Twice
Atticus would take a significant amount of force to crush the hull of a ship however
An octopus is a notoriously smart animal, ditto for squids. Yea it would probably break the ship up or just tip it on it's side before pulling it down.
Pass The Butter Robot i was thinking that too. Taking an empty bowl and pulling it straight into water is by far harder than just tiping it and finishing the job there.
BRUH, in pop culture, the Kraken WAS often depicted as breaking the ships into pieces in order to sink them faster.
Hanif Huzairi Yes but it is still pulling the same volumes under.
if water gets inside the ship the volume necessary is reduced drastically, then its just a matter of comparing the density of the materials that the ship is made of to the density of the water said material is trying to displace. that is why ships sink to begin with.
or simply rolling them over to the side.
@HolyFlame Dragon. as he said the mass of the water that needs to be moved out of the way is equal to the volume of the ship minus it's mass and 90% of the volume of a ship that needs to be pulled under is made of just air. if you replace the air with something heavier, the ship starts going deeper.
a simple experiment is to fill the bathtub with water and try to submerge a big empty pot in it. you will see that the pot is very resistant to submersion because the air in the pot is part of the volume that needs to be moved. if you start filling the pot with water, as the pot fills up it will slowly start going down by itself
That's what I was thinkng
That is literally the first thing I thaught of it's not like it's going to try and keep the ship intact it's trying to destroy it so yeah smash and sink it
7:37 I've seen enough tentacle Hentai to know where this is going
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You just made me combine Kyle and tentacle porn.
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I really love how Kyle seems to be enjoying and having so much fun explaining these. And if what we know that Krakens are indeed cephalopods then they must most definitely be smart enough to know how to puncture or damage the ships to lower their bouyant force.
I am so glad you finally mentioned the breaking of the ships first, because that is what was actually said that happened. And knowing that a giant said actually does exist and that the ships of the time was made from wood and therefore could only be so big or they would fall apart from their own weight, it is very plausible that a giant squid could have been the legendary Kraken instead of the mythological beast they thought it was.
next questions: how strong would a kraken need to be to snap a ship in half and how powerfull would a krakens beak need to be to work through the hull of a ship, for it to fill with water so it wouldn't have to pull all that hard.
Snapping a ship in half wouldn't be much of a problem because it doesn't apply to buoyant force since the ship is floating above the water.
The weight of the steel at either end of the ship would make it easier to break apart the middle, or perhaps capsizing the ship so it fills with water to reduce the buoyancy. Obviously ships have compartments to help reduce flooding. However, if the kraken had even a fraction of the strength required to pull a ship under water, it would easily bend, break and damage steel hulls.
Titanic with tentacles? Go on... I'm listening...
Guy from the Internet Take away the "anic" from Titanic and then add an "s" to it. Now you have something *a lot* more interesting..
Gamerman 375 **gets my monocle** Ah yes, the plot. That is indeed extraordinarily classy. Indeed, sir.
titanic being sunk by Kraken? I would watch that movie.
Tentacle monsters on a ship? Watch "Deep Rising" then.
Aka, Titstanic
Usaly they are also snap the center of the ship
Drew Walling Kyle addresses that about three quarters through the video. I was thinking the same until he did though haha
Yeah I was just thinking. "They dont need to pull it underwater mearly destroy the hull enough it sinks." If we were to look at movies it would be safe to assume they only pull to quicken the destruction and kill the threat of them retaliating to prevent too much harm to it. Harder to fight it underwater.
My issue with this one is that you dont take the air away. Lets say it is a ship with sails and everything (pirates of the caribbean style) then there are a lot of openings, and if you let water get in there then it sinks much faster than that. Same with cars btw, if you sink a car in a river and leave the windows open then it will sink a lot faster when the water reaches the windows. With the Titanic and the tanker i can get behind a bit more since most of them have air sealing doors. But in general what makes a ship float on water is the surface area with not a big amount of material. Its only a shell filled with minor other objects and air... Mainly air and the air would peace the fuck out if a kraken would pull something underwater. If we ignore that and say that the air is part of the ship then great job :)
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, but I would assume this answers the most force it would take the ship down intact
TLDR
Either way, it would have to exert a number near to the maximum force while the ship is partially submerged. There would be a point where it would be exerting force in this neighborhood, but air isn't moving out very fast yet.
I always just assumed the kraken snapped the ship in half, which is an incredible enough feat.
As a point wouldn't the force needed to drag the ship under become less the further it is dragged under due to it taking on water, or could it just be pulled to one side and be allowed to once again fill with water? Not a disagreement just something I am wondering about
thedarkraitype what I was thinking.
Breaking strength of the timber or even the steel used on the Titanic is surely less than the force needed to drag the ship down whole as well.
Technically, it would just need to be strong enough to surpass that buoyancy at full submergence. Once you hit a negative buoyancy, you don't need to exert any more force to continue dragging downward.
My only gripe with this one, in spite of my intense love for Kyle Hill (and supreme envy of his hair and ambidexterity) is that he doesn't describe how a kraken would manage to pull down a ship with tentacle strength and NOT pull itself upwards, especially with those last couple examples. What kind of strength of forces are we talking about in THAT case? It needs to pull downward with the force of more than a hundred Falcon rockets AND keep its own buoyant force at least neutral.
How about an appended version of this episode to address that? Eh? Huh? Yeah?
Sean Jacoby gripping on to the sea bed?
Then we need to know the force to roll the boat onto its side and then the buoyant force of the wood, cargo and air that's still trapped inside.
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@The Timster
Yes, The Flash can escape a timeloop by travelling in time. It will however leave a time remnant inside the loop.
I was wondering more about how hard it would have to squeeze to breach the haul. Once it starts flooding the ship seems like it would be much easier to pull down. Thank for all the videos :)
A giant squid would have a giant beak. What if the squid poked holes in the ship before sinking it? Deflating the balloon before trying to submerge it would make the process easier.
Apophis poke! Poke!
you'll float too
artfx9. You'll float too (slightly louder
You'll float too... You'll float too... You'll float too... You'll float too... You'll float too... You'll float too... (On a beat)
0:06
I've watched too much hentai to know where this is going.
Kyle says "Not yet" * O *
*( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)*
**wink wink nudge nudge**
Was looking for this :)
I was expecting this comment, Thank you, good Sir/Madam.
The lower estimates kinda make sense. In a lot of the Kraken's pop culture depictions, they actually do tend to break the ship apart, and the stories tend to occur in settings of wooden ships only, like the Earl of Pembroke and such. They've never really tried to show a Kraken sinking a modern ship.
I think that would actually make for a cool action scene, to see a Kraken try and fail to sink a modern ship after tearing apart so many older, wooden ones. "The tides hath turned, beast!"
You also have to factor in if it moves down in one side, it will fill it with water. Making it more and more easy to pull down. Also the materials could be damaged, maybe even broken, having masses of water flow in. So a tough question to answer, since there are so many factors at hand. :D Also of course the size of the boat etc.
That's why he went with the "whole boat" as if water weren't flowing in to get an idea of the more rediculous idea of how strong a kraken could be.
though I'm a bit annoyed he didn't do as you said, a scenario where a ship breaks and floods. because that's what most happens when people think of a kraken draging down a ship, tear it to bits then pull the biggest parts along to the sea bed.
rainynight02 he basically ends the video saying or he could just break it into pieces removing any effort needed to sink it as it would sink itself that's kind of a pretty straight forward answer to what if he broke the ship
This is assuming that the ship is being pulled underwater without the hull breaking or water getting in. Even assuming the kraken in strong enough to actually pull the ship under as explained, I expect the pressure would break the ship apart, mitigating the ship's capacity to displace water. Thus, a kraken wouldn't have to be strong enough to drag a ship underwater, just strong enough to cause enough damage to the hull's integrity that water enters, allowing the ship to sink... As to how strong a kraken would need to be to crack a ship open like an egg, I leave that to you, because science.
as always... an entertaining yet informative video ! I LOVE Because Science !!
I loved the video, and this series. I learned a lot from it, and I am glad that you eventually pointed out that the kraken could simply negate the buoyancy of the ship by damaging it and flooding the vessel, which is exactly what we see happening in movies and shows that feature the kraken attacking ships of any kind.
As far as the Titanic is concerned, the second the kraken started yanking on the ship, the substandard steel used in its construction would buckle and shred, which would make it a LOT easier for the oversized squid to get its people-based lunch.
I'm disappointed. There was a missed opportunity here. "This is the Titanic. You know the Titanic. To meet it's end by Kraken, instead of crackin'..." *hands make a "cracking" motion*
Nice as usual kyle👍🏽
Thank you JJ! -- KH
I swear you I thought you said *”nice ass uncle Kyle”*
6:00 - I thought the Titanic *did* meet its end by crackin'.
...
GET IT?
OK, I'll see myself out.
I'm Matt! You're welcome for watching! I loved the episode, I wish though that you had included some data on real life cephalopods for comparison. Great stuff, keep up the good work.
This show is better than Game/Film Theory. By far.
Matt is cancer
John Apple Why do you hate him? I mean I don't like the guy or the show but I wouldn't say that he is cancer.
Game/Film Theory used to be better than it is. It's dumbed down now, makes more mistakes during research and focuses on no-brainers, FNAF and RUclips conspiracies...
What a pity...
what really made me give up on Game/film theory was the whole for honor debacle. Matt lost ALOT of respect from ALOT of people because of that.
i mean, he stated that vicking walked barechest, and at the same time that they lived in a place so cold it was impossible to plant and raise animals because they would just die of hypotermia... i mean, come on, doesnt need to be a genius to realize he was pulling that one out of his ass.
but the true worst part was when he said his video was validaded by his research, even when ALOT of youtubers corrected him on that.
I wouldn't say it's better just different
Dude. Kyle, please do Cable's techno organic virus. Can something like that ever exist? Even if it can't, how would it actually work if it could? Why is Apocalypse (also infected with the virus) able to survive without detriment when Cable isn't? I NEED ANSWERS!!!!
And yes, I'm liking my own comment. You should all like it too.
well played to Kraken and Kyle ;) classy promo and good fun
Hey Because Science!! I've got a question that's bugged me for ages.
In Xmen Apocalypse, in the awesome quicksilver scene, how does he first hear or feel the explosion and thus start saving people before the blast starts destroying things and killing people. Doesn't the shock wave travel at the same speed as sound? Therefore he couldn't have heard it or felt it before everyone in the mansion had been blown up?!?!
Confusing much?
I'm going to create an alcohol company called "Responsibly" for all the free advertisement.
Kyle: water displacement and movement
Europeans 11th century: wood with sail float
great episode, I do have a couple questions though. 1) wouldn't the force needed to pull the ship down be negated when water is able to replace what was being dispersed by the air? 2) what about the material strength of what is being pulled down? at some point it should reach a point of catastrophic failure so it will break and be pulled down. 3) this is assuming even downward force all over a ship, what about how a Kraken would probably concentrate on a specific area to pull down on? and #4 What about the force it would need to just get it started to sink, like if the Kraken only pulled at the front or back. I cant wait for my daughter to come home so we can discuss this.
i think the point of leaving the ships intact was displayed with the first example. he was pointing out that even without breaking the ship, dragging down old world wooden ships would be a very achievable feat for the Kraken.
About 15 divers in Norway have encountered big seethrough balls of gell in the ocean, and many scientists only explanation is a giant squid layed them, and they later got carried closer to the shore. Maybe the kraken isnt as mythical as we think... bam bam baaaaaaaam! (ok, i know they are not quite as big but i tried my best making it dramatic XD. It is really cool though)
p.s. Are you going to shave for the new thor movie?
here is the article: steemit.com/nature/@fredrikaa/massive-and-mysterious-giant-squid-egg-found-at-norwegian-shores-for-the-first-time
I'm sorry but. Explanation*
Cricket101382 😢
Actually huge squids could very well exist, they probably just dont come up from the deep much.
Given we've only caught a live giant squid on camera once total size is hardly nailed down. Zero live recorded incidences of colossal squid.
Is it bad that I misread the title as Mythical Karen?
yes
Depends. Do you know anyone named Karen?
Thesaurus Rex My mum
Then yes, it's bad.
Addy 0302 Regiswitch?
So happy you mentioned MTG, it's like literally the first thing I thought of after seeing the title.
I was gonna say that the Kraken doesn't always have to just pull down the ship cause what I was thinking was that it wasn't technically the strongest mythological creature but maybe the smartest instead as in Pirates of the Caribbean Dead Man's Chest, the Karen was seen to use every attribute it had to take down massive ships despite its whale size such as slowly destroying the larger ships and breaking them from the inside out as well as using its two massive tentacles to smash the middle of the ships to let water pour in evenly to drown the ships so basically the Kraken just uses science to sink the ship for it. Also, I love your videos and they're really entertaining despite me not being good at math lol Keep up the good work and doing what you love!
Does deadpool die in lava ???
The Kraken is real though. It is just the Colossal Squid.
Not really, a Kraken is mithological and imposibly huge. Colossal Squids don't get big enough. They're also imagined as monstruous octopuss-like creatures, not squid like. It's like saying "Dragons are real though. It's just Komodo Dragons". Not really real, just close enough to fascinate us.
Robin Gilliver lol NO... they dont.
Robin Gilliver omfg im gunna did this dude just call ME retarded?? if you mean colossal squids exist the yeah youre right but if you think some 300ft octosquid is in the ocean somewhere, then yeah youre fuckin wrong
Robin Gillive Okay well that adds to the fact that im right. I cant believe youd actually get offended that id say that hahaha. So sensitive
Robin Gilliver Lol I love how to you, if someone doesn't think a kraken of all things is real they're automatically pegged as "infinitely stupid". You fucking mongoloid.
So glad you finally mentioned breaking the ship, it was bugging the hell out of me. XD
I love watching these videos. Makes science fun.
Hey. want to sculpt Kraken on my channel! can you suggest versions of it?
One in Clash of the titans!
Spare time G the hand kraken
Definitely the Clash of the Titans version
Thank you very much! Looks like The clash of the titan one it is! coming up for next Sunday!
That's what google is for.
But is he a squid or a kid?
Game Theory says "squid."
Loved the Beakman's world homage at 1:12
Great episode. Fantastic. This is why I subscribe
"Strong tenties" -Kyle 2017
This is why a lot of movies with "Krakens" break up a ship or roll it over on its side to capsize it first.
Kyle, can you do a video on your current studio setup? So we can see the glass wall. There is no glare at all, and I’m curious as to how you’ve managed such a great setup!
The thing is, in film, the 'Kraken' is usually shown braking apart the ship and letting water seep into the inside. Thus making the vessel lose a considerable amount of buoyancy. Before the 'Kraken' pulls the remains of the ship down into the ocean. In conclusion, the 'Kraken' can pull down a large naval vessel, but probably, only when the ship is broken down into manageable chunks.
The kraken usually brakes the ship in half
really strong
6:15 Force of photons in what time span?
2:00 "Unfathomable" Love it!
i died when he said "and then you ride it away". then because i was already laughing really hard when he did the arms thing i died even more
Damn, I thought the title said mythical “Karen”
7:28 i know right? also that would explain why in Pirates of the Carribean 2 the Kraken pulled the small ship immediately but had to break the bigger ships apart. and i thought that was just because of movie coolness
Dark and stormys using Goya Ginger beer and the kracken rum is my favorite drink :)
Kyle, it is easier to pull a floating object under if the buoyancy of the water is displaced through bubbles. An example would be the methane gas theory of the Bermuda triangle. If the Kraken's "ink" could heat up the water to a significant degree, it would be able to sink ships without much effort.
pfft.. hulk still stronger -.-
also, butt chug responsibly
Yes, please butt chug responsibly -- KH
6:55 Sorry Kyle, but ah....you pissed of the great old one Cthulhu. The kraken is nothing compared to our lord and destroyer.
CTHULHU FHTAGN
Bring back the esoteric chats at the end of the video! Those were the best!
I'm glad I waited until the end before commenting. I was going to mention the crushing force ;)
Also, The Kraken rum is bloody lovely!
Stop talking about mythical kraken, do something about the kraken in KSP.
The version of the krakken I'm most familiar with is the one from Ben 10 which actually looks nothing like a squid
a timelords reveiws same fam.
This assumes that the kraken is just straight up pulling the ship underwater; most depictions involve the kraken damaging the ships, presumably letting water in, lowering the buoyancy of the ship itself and making it much easier to drag beneath the waves to Davy Jones' Locker. To bring it back to the beach ball comparison, one could just stab through the ball, making it a simple task to drag the deflated ball underneath the water.
While watching this video I was literally making an MTG Slinn Voda EDH Kraken and big scary monsters deck!
I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.
Oh, Matron, please... ;)
Am I the only one who believes some mythical creatures exist?
Considering I went to school with a bunch of people who worshiped a 2000 year old zombie, I'd say probably not.
You talking about Christ, or a cult?
Dragonborn what's the difference?
No, you're not the only one.
Some people believe because they are delusional. (as in hallucinations and whatnot)
Others believe because they feel the little evidence for said creatures is enough.
Others want to believe or hold hope that certain creatures do in fact exist but can't definitively say they believe they do because of the current lack of substantial evidence.
I used to really believe in bigfoot but as I've gotten older and learned more, I'm leaning towards the "I'd like it if it did, but I highly doubt it does." side of things. On the other hand, I've gone from thinking a megalodon being alive is absolute fiction to "Well, from the information available, it could be true."
But then it also depends on what you consider to be "mythical." To some people a unicorn and a dragon and bigfoot are all absolute fiction. To others unicorn and dragon is fiction yet bigfoot is a genuine possibility as far as they're concerned.
This comment section is very peculiar..
We need more interactive science explanations. Not only insightful on a visual scale but when goofing up is incredibly hilarious.
I'd love to do more of the pool b-roll stuff! This was just to try it out -- KH
It reminds me of how Bill Nye would take things and demonstrate Science. I think thats how Because Science will evolve. Possibly making it a full half hour show with cast of science people like yourself Kyle. Also, when you doing that gaming channel? lol
Hell yeah Kraken Rum, still my favorite spiced rum to date.
Plz do the biology of shin godzilla
[ Madman ] you sir, are the best comment.
I hope he sees your comment and does a vid on Shin Godzilla
You sir are the reason why I love physics!
Very kind of you to say, thank you! -- KH
Your welcome, Kyle. Love your show
awesome video man
You'd also have to take into account that almost every time you see the kraken pull a ship down under, you see it first break the ship in have and then submerge it, which begs the question, how strong would the kraken have to be to do that?
QUESTION! possibly the first time I have something to add when it comes to these things. that would be the INITIAL force needed to make the ship sink under water... but once the water starts filling the ship wouldn't those numbers change and it become easier to pull the ship under? (not to mention whatever damage the ship would take AS the ship is being pulled down)
My first thought was also the ship breaking which the main force needed is the sheer force of the material. But with that in mind he didn't mention it because the point is showing the strength of the creature. I am positive he know the that much force would be beyond the sheer force of even the most current ships.
dude, that beach ball is AWESOME! :D i need one...
Great ! Please now do a video on how can the Kraken be so strong with only tentacles in regards of density or structure strength etc.
But Kyle, usually in movies when see this happen, the kraken destroys the boat/ship first. It usually breaks them up into smaller pieces of ship, where water could leak into the ship making the kraken not have to displace nearly as much water with air. Therefore the kraken should not have to work nearly as hard.
"Kraken Force" will now be the official unit of measurement I use on the next physics exam.
That beach ball is really cool
1:55 That hooligan laughter hahahahah
Finally got to see what was on the end of his necklace, my curiosity is sated.
Thank you Kraken Rum! This was an especially entertaining episode!
Of course, now I have to write a fiction where the Titanic sunk due to Kraken instead of Iceberg.
Your Muskwatch singing was beautiful.
I'd like to note that a kraken would only have to exert that amount of force for a short period. After the ship is submerged, it will start to fill with water, meaning less buoyancy. So it would be a bit different from pushing a beach ball under water and more like pushing a (very very) large cup under water -- Hard at first, then much easier.
story's I've heard the cracken cracked and black hull and pull them down like on the sensor animation, love the show bro.
Stories of giant squid come from all over the world but the word Kraken comes from Norway where they typically had fairly small ships. If you had a 50 foot ship with a 20 foot mast than confirmed giant squids could plausibly reach out of the water, grab the top of the mast and use it as a leaver to capsize the boat.
One thing you're not considering is the beach ball is completely enclosed and boyant exclusively by air. A boat however only needs a small portion of it to be submerged, it then fills with water and loses all of it's boyancy. So even if a ship is too massive for a Kraken to be able to pull it under water, all it really needs to do is pull under one end of the ship, or turn the ship over on its side, or rip a sizeable enough hole into the hull... thus filling the ship with water, negating any collosal boyancy the ship may have and easily dragging it under.
Just based on the shear amount of force required to drag the ships down _whole_ , it would be more plausible to assume that the ships in question weren't made from a material that could withstand that sort of force, would instead break apart under the Kraken hold, and therefore quickly sink with much less force required.
I’m early! For a Kyle video! Best day ever!
Had an idea for a future episode along the lines of telekinesis and wether it could be performed using signals that the brain can emit or some other form of wavelength
As a side note a kraken whilst trying to sink a ship would cause stress on the ship it's trying to sink hence they brake apart
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the only thing I want to know is if they took into consideration that man o' wars and other ships from that era had cannon ports. that means those types of ship would only need to be pulled down half way before they started to take water. once it starts to take on water the amount of force it takes to pull down would be greatly reduced. that means the size and power of the kraken would be around half of what Kyle said.
this is my favorite channel :)
Did I just hear my name near the end of the video? Nice one. Even the subtitles thinks it was my name lol.
You're missing a key point about the Kraken, it doesn't pull things to the depths it crushes them and lets the tasty bits sink. Tentacles aren't designed to pull things, they are designed to rip them open so the centrally located mouth can then devour the insides.
Another issue you didn't address which I thought would be more important would be the size of the Kraken, should it decide to pull down a ship, to remain submerged while doing exerting that sort of force. Jet propulsion from that large of a beast would tear through wooden hulls without needing to crush it with the tentacles.