Great overview! The suunto S hardware is exactly what I am missing from Garmin: A middle size watch which isn’t plasticky and doesn’t have ridiculous bezels. The 745 or 645 had this role in the past but we’ve never gotten any successor to those 😢
@@thomas1988de1 totally agree with you, I used to love the 645! Thanks so much for the compliment, the race. S totally nailed it for Construction especially!! And Price!!
Great comparison video … scored the Garmin 955 on Amazon Prime for 319…. Was going to give the suunto S a spin but… for right now at least…. Garmin has the more advanced package… long live MIP Displays lol….
@@ZachGottlieb I know. This is definitely better than the first but still not good enough. Although it is interesting if you look at the heart rate accuracy universe. Nobody other than Garmin and Apple are putting out accurate heart rate sensors for the most part. WHOOP is not accurate, Coros is worse, polar is just as bad, Samsung Galaxy recent watch just as bad, etc., etc. Even the Garmin elevate 4.0 which is still on a lot of their current watches is better, but not that much better. The big thing with the original race was it was horrific, so this is better
@@ChristianSlagter thanks so much! I want to see it the lag and lesser heart rate affect the physiological calculations like nightly HRV,, resources,, etc.
Switched from Apple Watch to Coros Pace 3 and I’ve really enjoyed this battery life. And the app is great. So giving these sports watches in general more attention.
@@GarminPro yes coming from the Pace three you would actually love this watch. The bright screen and strong construction and design make for a great alternative.
Hey man, new subscriber here. Your content is exactly what I'm looking for right now. I was looking to upgrade to a FR 265 and have been stuck in analysis paralysis comparing to Suunto, Coros, Polar, and Whoop. I do a lot of martial arts (that pretty much require a bicep strap) and strongman style strength training, as well as sprinting once a week. What's throwing me off on the Garmin is that it seems to mostly target running, and I worry I'm buying a bunch of features I'm not using. So if we assume I'm almost always using a external HRM when training, do you think these two even out a bit more?
@@aaronmgriffin thank you so much! I would say either would be just fine. There are a lot of stats that are running specific with Garmin, but there are also a lot of stats specific to Garmin that are just helpful for training evaluation and recovery as well, but the same can be said of Suunto. If you maintain a heavy training load, I would probably say Garmin would be a little bit better because of the more in depth recovery, analysis, and recovery time tracking, but a lot of of their recovery evaluation metrics, like "training readiness," are not totally worthwhile either at the same time. You basically have to use subset of the information, if that makes any sense.
Great video thanks for the analysis! Of course the price point of the Sunnto Race S (v 265) includes maps too making it that bit more competitive. One thing I did want to ask though - is the Sunnto app the same as the Sportstracker app?
@@commonmadeholy yes it is the same! And I know I totally failed to highlight the mapping, which is a really cool feature of the Suunto race S! Thank you for mentioning!
The map on the Race S doesn't even include any informations about the area. No names of the streets or even the cities! In addition to that, the rotating crown is not very responsive which make the task more complicated while running. I bought the watch 2 days ago and I'm very disappointed unfortunately.
I own a Garmin 255, I'm happy with it, but I liked the Coros world better both in terms of interface and use of my pace 3, now I'm considering the idea of switching to Suunto race, what do you think? Then I would like to ask you, seeing your review of the normal Suunto race and I saw the problem on the intervals that does not indicate which one you are on, could you tell me if the problem has been solved with an update I have with the release of this race S? I have to know if it will be resolved
Hi, i'm a casual roadrunner (didnt join any event, yet) and mainly aiming for pb on my running days. I'm using FR55, feel like upgrading to FR265, but now i'm leaning heavily on this race S. any insight or recommendation on which i should go. I really wanna buy the race S, just that i'm afraid i'll regret later in future
@pavelvomacko2649 with always on display, GPS time plus an additional hour of workout tracking? I think they'd be roughly the same in real world #s....?
@@hdmedia7404 no I think the heart rate in non-workout activities is great, plus it has been spot on for user after user after user for picking up sickness and issues with drinking too much or eating too late all of that
@@fitgearhunter Very interesting as I actually need and use my Garmin to tracking my health more than hard core working out. More and more customers are in this situation … At the same time, the moment Apple takes body battery seriously, all brands will close down 😉
@@levolvik5231 very true on the mapping! I mentioned Price two separate times, but I did fail to feature the mapping, which I was completely upset to realize I had left out! Sorry about that!
@@brettbrunsell5769 hey! No nothing is as accurate as the AWU 1 or 2! The Fenix 7 PRO or epix PRO is close to it, but not the 965. More accurate than the Race S for sure
@@fitgearhunter ya it's just hard for me to trust any other metric of the HR and sleep are not great. I feel like Apple does both of those the best. Gps on a Garmin is the best but that's not crazy important to me
@fitgearhunter thank you very much. I don't know which one to buy I need a new watch It's very hard to decide. I love garmin, just too expensive Suunto, I don't know how good are in comparison eith garmin
Great overview!
The suunto S hardware is exactly what I am missing from Garmin: A middle size watch which isn’t plasticky and doesn’t have ridiculous bezels. The 745 or 645 had this role in the past but we’ve never gotten any successor to those 😢
@@thomas1988de1 totally agree with you, I used to love the 645! Thanks so much for the compliment, the race. S totally nailed it for Construction especially!! And Price!!
@@fitgearhunterand throw in some sapphire glass while you’re at it! The perfect watch!
Seems like we have to wake up half hour earlier to check in all our health metrics to see if we can leave bed.
Great comparison video … scored the Garmin 955 on Amazon Prime for 319…. Was going to give the suunto S a spin but… for right now at least…. Garmin has the more advanced package… long live MIP Displays lol….
@@AC12385 bahaha mip! Yea totally. That's a great deal for a 955! But, to me, the new screen technology is just too hard to walk away from!
Mip is always the best 😊
That heart rate sensor really is their Achilles heel here.
@@ZachGottlieb I know. This is definitely better than the first but still not good enough. Although it is interesting if you look at the heart rate accuracy universe. Nobody other than Garmin and Apple are putting out accurate heart rate sensors for the most part. WHOOP is not accurate, Coros is worse, polar is just as bad, Samsung Galaxy recent watch just as bad, etc., etc. Even the Garmin elevate 4.0 which is still on a lot of their current watches is better, but not that much better. The big thing with the original race was it was horrific, so this is better
The definitive review
Good to see you! Thanks for the review!
@@mfcxmfcx5085 sure thing and thank you!!
Great review as always. Love to hear your thoughts about the Suunto Race vs Race S in the future video!
@@ChristianSlagter thanks so much! I want to see it the lag and lesser heart rate affect the physiological calculations like nightly HRV,, resources,, etc.
Great overview! I hope the Suunto guys take a look at this review!!!
Switched from Apple Watch to Coros Pace 3 and I’ve really enjoyed this battery life. And the app is great. So giving these sports watches in general more attention.
@@GarminPro yes coming from the Pace three you would actually love this watch. The bright screen and strong construction and design make for a great alternative.
Hey man, new subscriber here. Your content is exactly what I'm looking for right now. I was looking to upgrade to a FR 265 and have been stuck in analysis paralysis comparing to Suunto, Coros, Polar, and Whoop. I do a lot of martial arts (that pretty much require a bicep strap) and strongman style strength training, as well as sprinting once a week. What's throwing me off on the Garmin is that it seems to mostly target running, and I worry I'm buying a bunch of features I'm not using.
So if we assume I'm almost always using a external HRM when training, do you think these two even out a bit more?
@@aaronmgriffin thank you so much! I would say either would be just fine. There are a lot of stats that are running specific with Garmin, but there are also a lot of stats specific to Garmin that are just helpful for training evaluation and recovery as well, but the same can be said of Suunto. If you maintain a heavy training load, I would probably say Garmin would be a little bit better because of the more in depth recovery, analysis, and recovery time tracking, but a lot of of their recovery evaluation metrics, like "training readiness," are not totally worthwhile either at the same time. You basically have to use subset of the information, if that makes any sense.
Great video thanks for the analysis! Of course the price point of the Sunnto Race S (v 265) includes maps too making it that bit more competitive. One thing I did want to ask though - is the Sunnto app the same as the Sportstracker app?
@@commonmadeholy yes it is the same! And I know I totally failed to highlight the mapping, which is a really cool feature of the Suunto race S! Thank you for mentioning!
@@fitgearhunter thanks much appreciated.
The map on the Race S doesn't even include any informations about the area. No names of the streets or even the cities! In addition to that, the rotating crown is not very responsive which make the task more complicated while running. I bought the watch 2 days ago and I'm very disappointed unfortunately.
Nice review, thanks! A question about the maps...but is it possible to see the name of the streets, cities...thanks!
Fantastic video, thanks. Can you say if the original Race is more laggy (ui) then the S?
@@fabii85 thank you! Yes, absolutely more laggy
Nice video brother! 🔥
@@ActiveIdeas very much appreciated! You continue to grow grow grow! Great work
@@fitgearhunter ❤️❤️
I own a Garmin 255, I'm happy with it, but I liked the Coros world better both in terms of interface and use of my pace 3, now I'm considering the idea of switching to Suunto race, what do you think? Then I would like to ask you, seeing your review of the normal Suunto race and I saw the problem on the intervals that does not indicate which one you are on, could you tell me if the problem has been solved with an update I have with the release of this race S? I have to know if it will be resolved
I'm using a coros pace 3 watch..should I upgrade to sunnto race S?
Race s have maps
Hi, i'm a casual roadrunner (didnt join any event, yet) and mainly aiming for pb on my running days. I'm using FR55, feel like upgrading to FR265, but now i'm leaning heavily on this race S. any insight or recommendation on which i should go. I really wanna buy the race S, just that i'm afraid i'll regret later in future
Do the heart rate and GPS are better on the Race S than the Pace 3?
What about the battery life? How many days? I am not sure, if you mentioned it in your comparison review
@@pavelvomacko2649 3.5-4 w always on display and 45 min GPS per day and one hou workout.
@@fitgearhunter 3,5-4 days is really not good value… Forerunner 265 has much much longer durability? 7-9 days?
@pavelvomacko2649 with always on display, GPS time plus an additional hour of workout tracking? I think they'd be roughly the same in real world #s....?
I sometimes wonder if GARMIN's body battery is trustable as the HR is average ... 😕
@@hdmedia7404 no I think the heart rate in non-workout activities is great, plus it has been spot on for user after user after user for picking up sickness and issues with drinking too much or eating too late all of that
@@fitgearhunter Very interesting as I actually need and use my Garmin to tracking my health more than hard core working out. More and more customers are in this situation … At the same time, the moment Apple takes body battery seriously, all brands will close down 😉
You didn't talk about the navigation feature in Suunto? And the price?
@@levolvik5231 very true on the mapping! I mentioned Price two separate times, but I did fail to feature the mapping, which I was completely upset to realize I had left out! Sorry about that!
SUUNTO el mejor
Is the 965 hr sensor as accurate as the Apple Watch Ultra 2?
@@brettbrunsell5769 hey! No nothing is as accurate as the AWU 1 or 2! The Fenix 7 PRO or epix PRO is close to it, but not the 965. More accurate than the Race S for sure
@@fitgearhunter ya it's just hard for me to trust any other metric of the HR and sleep are not great. I feel like Apple does both of those the best. Gps on a Garmin is the best but that's not crazy important to me
Nice top sir
Fr 255 or suunto race s
@@luisrazormax2861 honestly it's a tough call. For me I would go with Race S
@@fitgearhunter will suunto updated all the watch regularly?is suunto race s will be futureproof like 5 years from now?
Hi, can you do a review of suunto ocean, please
On day to day like hiking running
Gps maps
Etc
Many thanks
@@peterpanci78 I would love to, but would need to request a test device from the company and not sure they will supply! But I will ask!
@fitgearhunter thank you very much. I don't know which one to buy
I need a new watch
It's very hard to decide.
I love garmin, just too expensive
Suunto, I don't know how good are in comparison eith garmin
@@peterpanci78 I would go with Suunto Race if budget is an issue bc at least you get mapping - it's a really great feature
Thank you for the video
@@fitgearhunter thank you very much for advise