Why Loud Can’t Win Anymore
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Wanted to have this video up before their game against Lev but info still valid since they got stomped.
How do you think the Loud without aspas will do the rest of VCT?
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Some said it was Less. But they forget Less is just killing the ones tormented by aspas mentally.
Bro, Less is still killing almost 30 per map. They put him to play with OMEN. One of the best sentinels playing OMEN. Clearly the staff is a joke this year.
@@carloscharles5457 He plays lurk Viper on Bind, and he was still mostly lurking as the 2nd smoke anyway. Did you even watch the game?
@@mo1ya938 Ur not supposed to lurk as Omen, u need to flash for ur teammate if possible, u lurk after they got the site
Bro is poet😂😂
@@rpchn5698they were running omen as a replacement for viper, so his playstyle was still the same lurking one
i think it's both ways even though loud is the only one we see failing, aspas would just be an individual player with friends in lev as shown in international(in future seoul too). Also you didn't mention sacy who gets really underrated when he was in loud and now somewhat in sen. Let's just say he just does his job silently while not being flashy about it as well as win titles.
Players in Lev can shoot and so does Loud, the problem is they built their playstyle around their key player Aspas and now they are struggling without him
aspas was not so constant in the loud
sacy is not underrated, hes highly valued, perhaps even more than he actually is worth.
I would agree on the LEV part if it was before split 2, but now it seems the team covers whenever aspas hasn't gotten his hands warmed up yet (one example is on the first half of the 1st map against mibr split 2)
@@cookies3294 Sure thing, a random noob on the internet says that, mean while one of the best IGLs in the game Sadhack praises how much Sacy helped him, and after his departure Sadhack was not able to keep it all togehter that it was too much for him, basicallyu saying he wanted Sacy back. Sure, sure, you are right cookies3294.
Both rivals Optic and Loud fell off. Sad sight to see.
I wouldnt say optic fell off as much as disbanded. Yay was such an important part of that team that without him they were just not the same team anymore
Idk saying Aspas carried Loud is like saying T3xture carrying GenG. Each playet have their role in the team and they are did it flawlessly. Idk why people always give Aspas all the credit tbh
Aspas has 1.25 vlr rating across all duelist roles. That means he is a player and 1/4th. 4 Aspas's on one team would make up a 5 man roster. The guy was hard carrying a ton of games, and the rest of them played their roles individually super well too, but in reality it was Aspas and friends.
It's just stats, aspad left and loud started struggling. It's nothing to be mad over.
Stop the cope bro
I mean we know sadhaak and less are also goated (maybe not as much rn) but their most obvious issue is no duelist while their ex duelist is basically the goat duelist. Idk about the brazilian t2 scene but hoping they pick up a young talented duelist and try to get good enough by champs 2025
@@12mulesandy Brazilian tier 2 is terrible, havoc was the top prospect last year and he's descent at best
Loud losing everything after Aspas leaving the team, just reveals how strong Aspas is
Eh LOUD still made top 4 Madrid without Aspas so I believe they just need time to integrate Pancada and resolve role issues or find a duelist to replace Aspas and QCK who I believe did a decent job despite not being a star duelist main and more of a flex player. And as for how strong Aspas is that's true Aspas was strong but LEVs performance also reveals how good of a team LOUD was compared to LEV.
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952they met chinese teams and got stomped by prx in PO
kickoff and madrid?
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952 because they've been lucky with the draw. I mean, playing against FPX and EDG, literally the worst two teams of that tournment.
@@munkhjinmunkhbayar5952Bro... It was a mickey mouse tournament with only 2 good teams.
we need tutu on duelist and new coaching staff, stk and peu aren't really doing a lot currently.
The whole reason Loud had such a strong foundation to build on is because Aspas is good and consistent. The foundation is gone, it crumbles
aspas didn't carry loud. all of loud were crazy in their prime
id say their issue is that they don’t have a clear duelist that’s it
Yeah, Aspas didn't carry LOUD, but they still need a duelist like him to play to their fullest potential themselves, thats the issue
Pancada returning wasn't a bad decision either, but replacing him with ytour only duelist player? dumb af
Bro prime LOUD lost like 70% of rounds where aspas died first
@@timmynotjerry is the problem. tuyz with gekko is not good for loud, but tuyz duelist...
@@gsand2892 that's obvious though, when a team plays around their duelist like loud did in 2022-2023 whenever the duelist fails it's inevitable to lose, LOUD had aspas they played their cards well and that's why they were consistently good, they gave aspas the resources he needed to succeed, reason why aspas looks much weaker in LEV than in LOUD.
crazy that both loud n brazil national team fell off at the same time cuz their main player left or retired (aspas for loud n neymar for brazil)
Tuyz was an option for loud bc he used to play duelist in his past team, but he didnt want to because he was uncomfortable.
also training new players that joined after sacy and pancada, two of the best players on the market, isnt easy, which lead them to lose all championships on 2023. Aspas left 2 of the original roaster, and it just made it harder for saadhak and less to get the team in the same way again
yeah like imagine being on the top 3 best controllers of the world and then have someone change your role to something you're not familiar anymore, i would be unconfortable too, i think Less is going to become the duelist next season, he said he wanted to.
just simple, because they need a real duelist.
and a good coaching staff
Loud started being ass way after aspas left
Its actually to see the downfall of Loud, they were so fun to watch when they dominated, they had literally everything. Aspas as the literal best entry fragger, world class igl Saadhak, pancada as a great smokes player, sacy being overall most balanced in everything and Less there for cleanup, they had their basics drilled into them. Thats how they won champs. Even when sacy and pancada left, the team had a fresh new talent and still they looked like a superteam, they might have had an even better run last year if they didn't do the agent change for aspas in tokyo but it was experimentation and they learnt from it. They even eliminated Fnatic who was the best team last year. But alas all good things come to an end, I think they lack a good duelist one which has great explosiveness, its a must for any great team, there are many Brazilian options but someone has to take the chance to fill Aspas's shoes only then Loud will shine.
great info vid hopefully blows up :D
Esse core de jogadores ainda é competitivo internacionalmente, mas eles tiveram tantos problemas pelo caminho (internos e externos), que não conseguimos vê-los performar o que sabemos o que eles conseguem! Espero que consigam arrumar a casa até o ano que vêm assim como a Sentinels fez.
Dude these videos are god tier why isn't this channel exploding...
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Less is the issue. His behavior is the problem. That's why aspas and pancada didn't stay. Less said on live that he didn't like a tactic about a round, hence he started throwing.
best player who was carrying the team whole year is the issue?
@@kerbi2545 reread the original comment, doesnt matter how good dude is if he has a shitty attitude with the rest of the team
This video is actually accurate but for loud next season they need to make 1 change acc to me that can almost become like the 2022 champions winning roster. Bringing a brazilian duelist like mwzera instead of tuyz. The other 4 almost replicate the old loud team and caunzin is a direct replacement to sacy.
Try reducing the sibilance of the microphone. It's hurt a little bit
Someone gotta make a video about this really underrated team called furia🎉
Not to mention that Less has been a huge source of drama and conflicts in LOUD. That's one of the reasons that Sacy, Frod and Aspas are out of this roster.
That's just rumors and apparently the problem with Frod was because of Sadhaak
Its never Less... Frod and Saadhak is also not a big deal... The biggest deal of all is that Loud is a shitty management. Everyone wants to escape and stop playing for Loud, heck Sadhaak already rumoured to leave (and Loud seems like putting all stops not to also let him go). Basically a Management Disasterclass.
@@Michojo Dude Sadhaak literally resigned last year because he liked the org, and all the people who worked for Loud never said anything bad about it (not that i know of)
Less was never the problem
He has some drama with Sacy cuz Sacy was toxic in 2022 and Less can't endure it
He does get upset sometimes when ppl don't listen to his ideas but beside that he doesn't have any problem with them
You can watch Aspas BTS he went to Loud and you can see Less actually remembers the stuff animals Aspas brought
@@AnhNguyen-kn2qg Aspas and even Zellsis himself have debunked this claim that Sacy is abusive. Also, Less has been clear with his disagreements whether being with Saadhak or with Fr0d and STK in the interviews. They COULD not have anything against Less personally, but at the professional level, of course they have HUGE conflicts.
pancada is back though
good video
Why is no one be reading qck as Quack?
I miss aspas 😭
Me too
answer is they need Duelists
Trying to teach a new igl, teaching a new duelist that only knew neon and trying to see if Tuyz can play duelist at the last matches they had
Visa issues, not getting enough training, switching players, role overlapping
Losing aspas isnt the reason Loud is losing, after all there are teams that don't have the best duelists that are doing better than Loud
Aspas was just the catalyst to a flurry of bad things happening to Loud, and them not being able to adapt
The next year's season might be more organized and i think loud will be able to shine more
why does he keep saying asspiss? :(
As a Brazilian viewer I can see some points in this team: as the saadhak in duelist is actually a dumb decision tbh, tuyz was pretty famous playing as duelist on TBK (team from Valorant Challengers Brazil) and Less is a little bit good with Jett too. And LOUD management team isnt very good after all. Banning maps that LOUD was very good and playing maps that LOUD didnt win... btw I hope this year was a good lesson for them, they gonna have a loooong time to see what they need to change, test other tings. I just pray that with this bad year any of the 5 players dont get out of LOUD to search for another team, just like Aspas did
loud 2024 problems = sentinels 2023 problems
why less with omen and not killjoy cypher?
why tuyz with gekko and not jett raze?
why saadhak neon and not kayo or breach?
while it is true that aspas was very high-ressource and a big contributor to Loud's success, i think their team comp issues should not be overlooked. Back in 2023, when Skye was arguably way too strong, Loud's Viper Harbor comps were meta defining. They also played Viper on 5/7 maps who was just blatantly overpowered at that point in time. If you look at the stuff they play now (best example is the absolutely horrendous Icebox comp against LEV), it should come to noone's surprise that they are struggling on a strategic level
As a Brazilian LOUD fan, who has followed the team since its first official game, I say that this team that we saw win the champions will probably never return to its level of performance. The current team has strong individual players but the lack of a star player makes a big difference, the team's tactics are also not the best, the decision I most criticize is Coach Frod's departure, his participation in the team was indispensable
i miss aspas...😔
sadhaak still have a lot of high level equipment, but he doesnt have a good weapon no more, no matter how good your brain and how good your armor, if you dont have good weapon, you cant win a duel
Actually the LOUD problem was pretty much simple: They lost the best duelist ever and tried to replace him with... no duelist players. QCK had been playing sentinel for over a year. No words for sadhaak duelist and Tuyz was playing nice with smoke. Of course Aspas is a amazing player, but a duelist probably would bring a better result than what we saw.
Okay, before watching the video, already going into that stupid thumbnail „Aspas carried them“. There‘s multiple reasons why Loud underperformed this year that have nothing to do with Aspas. The main reason tho was/is the coaching stuff that has been sabotaging Loud the entire year. Loud was THE ONLY team in THE WORLD that wasn’t playing Gekko at all prior to Stage 2 even tho Gekko had been established as one of the if not the strongest Initiator in the Game and as it turns out the coaching stuff made that decision, on top of that Loud ran terrible comps the entire time prior to Stage 2 -> as said no Gekko, no Sentinels other than Cypher on Breeze (which was the main reason they lost) weird Pheonix comps etc. And again the coaching stuff made the decision to kick QCK who Tbf didn’t do very good but that’s PROBABLY due to the comp issues I mentioned. Bringing in pANcada is obviously great and Loud fixed their comps but once again Loud sabotaged themselves by playing Saadhak on the Duelist until they finally switched in their most recent game which they lost because of 2 reasons 1. Lev being the best team in Americas 2. Loud actually being terrible on Icebox which I don’t get but whatever. So the only time we‘ll see the full potential Loud was this Lev game and the upcoming game against 100T which is meaningless for both teams. So the short answer is „Loud didn’t win this year, because 5eir coaching stuff was sabotaging them“ but let’s see what you have to say and how Aspas „carried“ Loud, Spoiler he didn’t.
Okay after watching, you say A LOT without actually saying anything. You just yapp a lot of unnecessary stuff instead of saying „the coaching stuff is forcing bad roles and bad comps“ which is the reason they are losing. This + not having a true duelist are the reasons. So as expected you’re just a clickbaiting loser with that thumbnail and are only stating the very obvious with a lot of unnecessary words
I might be wrong but I’m relatively sure that the thumbnail is meant to be clickbait, not demonstrating what the creator’s perspective on the situation. Second off LOUD’s playstyle revolved around Aspas, this has been stated by Frod. The time thar LOUD didn’t play to this playstyle(Tokyo) was their worst result at an international event since franchising started. Aspas didn’t carry LOUD individually, but his presence on these duelists and the way LOUD played around him forced them to play a certain style/way. Had he remained with LOUD they probably would’ve remained grounded and actually stayed with the meta. Aspas didn’t carry LOUD in terms of stats, he carried them in terms of style.
@@Bebox-lz3gw There’s still a way to make thumbnails actually true to what the video wants to talk about instead of something that is not true or not the issue. And yeah, Loud wasn’t really playing around „Aspas playstyle“ they just played with an actual Duelist, neither QCK nor Saadhak are Duelist players and even now TuyZ hasn’t played Duelist in 2 years even tho he was mainly Duelist in Tier 2 Brasil before joining Loud. So what you’re saying is partly true but it once again isn’t because of an „Aspas playstyle“ just that they have no Duelist player which of course used to be Aspas
Honestly carry yes aspas do just take over and win loud rounds by himself yes But honestly its very simple. Loud lost a star duelist and couldn't find someone that could fill that spot and now bringing back pancada causes role issues no one on the team is a duelist main let alone have to experience and potential to be the star duelist for loud.
I was screaming when I saw Shaadhak playing Neon on Lotus bro ahaha. That was when I knew LOUD was not the same LOUD.
Loud is not good now becaue they don't have a duelist. It's that simple. How can a team be good in a meta centered around duelist without a proper one?
Loud vs aspas leviathan is 1x1,this title even make sense. Loud is just a bad phase like sentinels. Good bait
Less is not a controller player
@@reqru1t tuyz is not a flex
@@k_211 not really
Ig your tryna argue TuyZ is a duelist player then since pANcada is their controller and saadhak is the flex. But TuyZ only plays Jett on Ascent and FLEXES to gekko (common flex agent) and secondary controller (not unusual for flex players)
Less plays Viper as a SENTINEL player being world class on Viper DOES NOT make you a controller... look at nAts,suygetsu,FNS just to name a few SENTINELS who happen to play Viper (typically 2nd smoke specifically) that ARE NOT controller playrrs
honestly, the difference between loud and paper rex picking wild comps is that the latter can create good combos and the whole team is practically a cracked aimer club
in paper rex, players are used to their characters, already saadhak with neon and tuyz with gekko, no
Loud demon1. Period
Pancada is shit loud got worse when he arrived
all this yapping to say brazil sucks its just a one player region
Aspas Goat
Creator didnt mention aspas carried loud for the past 2 years. He just emphasizes aspas was one of the key factors made loud that dominant. Loud legit lost arguably the best player in the game if not so he'll become the goat next years. You can find whoever you want its hard to find an equal talent nobody can deny the fact.
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Sorry not sorry but qck should not be pro
10 views after 4mins
bro fell off
only sacy or aspas can save this loud
only tuyz duelist