"Wake up on a nice bed, check my garage full of supercars, go outside to have a good walk? Surely it wouldn't matter if I bottom frag on a game" - Truly humble words of The Humble King Himself, Jay "No cappa" Won
I personally feel that this video is more like "the history of Sinatraa in Valorant" and not "HOW GOOD is Sinatraa really?", was kinda expecting a stats videos and pro player clips saying how good he actually is. Kinda surface level but still a well-produced video otherwise.
literally lmao its like one of those "ending explained" videos that dont actually explain the ending and just recap the movie or those "video essays" that are actually dramatic retellings of events
if you dont already know, he was alright. Nothing too special people hype him up way too much, when Tenz subbed in last minute that team became 10 times better. I wanna say he would have been one of the players at that time who retire pretty early but I have heard that he did decently in Tier 2 so I wont discredit him too much
@@justarandomperson8926 yeah that C9 was ass, what does this take away from my point? SEN was good, they became much better with TenZ and then Sinatraa ended up forming a fanbase that just glazed him at every possible oppurtunity. Like they say that Riot tries to keep him away from pro play and otherwise he'd be amazing but he legit had tryouts with NRG. He is very eligible to play he's just ass, he has the perfect excuse as well and his fans will ride him no matter what
@@starcore7507 I don't watch sinatraa much anymore, but from what that guy said he seemed to be a lot more than just alright, and you quite literally agreed with him. Sounds like he was crazy, but Tenz is just better. Just cause Tenz is better doesn't make him any worse does it?
10:29 he actually trialed for the nrg roster when fns and s0m left. but they got demon1 and ethan because they were obvious much better choices then sinatraa and I think narrate but we all know how that ended up 💀
Tenz has the better aim forsure but utility usage, and agent pool might go sinatraa way but he couldn’t prove it on the main stage like tenz did during Iceland and among others
@@Titax69 He said RIOT treated him like shit. But the Sentinels org stuck by him no matter what. He's been very vocal about how well Sen treats their players.
Tbh he could still prb become a top level player if he decided to play again and an org actually took the risk of picking him up (They should). His movement is something I still feel like no one else can perfectly imitate and pair that with the phantom and it becomes sooooo good.
He'd just be another yay but instead of Jett, its with Raze. Please don't forget that raze satchels are getting nerfed next patch. It's always "bro if he just got picked up" Bro. The meta, the map pool, the season. It ain't that simple and thats why Yay's been floundering.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! These idiots keep saying “it’s A new mEtA, hE cAnT kEeP up” Meanwhile benjyfishy is running shxt straight off the couch🤔 yall really are slow sometimes lol
Sinatraa had a crazy run in OW, and definitely carried hard when his team won championships, but i dont think anyone in the OW community really considered him "the best in the world". He was a carry on a really good team that facilitated him perfectly to enable him. He still got dunked on when SBB played tracer in the first world cups, and so on.
ive always admired his skill since overwatch and i get his anger for being stabbed in the back by riot. he was one of the firsts, but was dropped right before he could rise in the ranks again. Would love to see him play again but i respect his decision.
Yeah let's be honest, the allegations have a lot of logical fallacies and contradictory statements. Don't get me wrong, they both lied and they both didn't make the investigation easier (and I cannot judge who they are in their personal life, probably none of us can), but starting allegations like this on Twitter instead of taking legal action first will always seem fishy. In the end, she dropped the charges; investigations were inconclusive and provided evidence was not nearly enough for any kind of conviction. So what do we have now? His image is forever tarnished without it being clear if he did it or not; she did not have any repercussions. In my eyes and how the justice system should work, someone is innocent until proven guilty, so I think the treatment he gets is unjustified.
Eh, she knew what would happen when she accused him, but he didn’t cooperate w the investigation which would’ve cleared him. There was def something he didn’t want to do in their investigation whether it had been a polygraph or something.
@@drew26 Yeah but neither did she, the infamous video that Sinatraa wanted to provide but later said he deleted it. She did state that she had the video (the video of the audio clip that she already posted) all this time, but she was never asked by Riot to provide it. If this really was her striking evidence to convict him of sexual assault, wouldn't it then be in her best interest to provide this video evidence for investigation and not just wait until it is asked of her? I would completely understand not giving such a video to Riot, but at least to the police or whoever she is in talks with to take legal action.
@@drew26And don't get me wrong, if he did it and it can be proven then I'd 100% want him to get punished, but by law not by some gaming company, community or twitter warlords. But ruining someones public image and career by making claims you can't follow up on is defamation. ( I think it is punishable by law but I am not 100% sure. I'm not fully informed on local law as I am not american).
@@ryker2977 Defamation of character only applies when the statement said is proven false and also if he did that he would look like an asshole, so idek ab all that
Thats kinda what I'm expecting also tbh. It's the most similar to the game he was dominate in. So if you goes all out as soon as it comes out he should be able to obtain similar heights as he did in OW. That is if he still wants to compete and if Rivals has a good Esports scene.
@@solaris218 he was banned for 6 months after that teams didnt want to risk picking him up but he was banned for half a year so they also had to question if hes still as good as he was
Asuna is the prime example that people think Sinatraa will be. Good fragger, excellent movement, but not really considered a top player. They are just riding on the popularity of Sinatraa in overwatch and early victory of sentinels in valorant. if he is really good, teams will take him even in tier 2.
Ofc you had to bring up sen vs 100t to give me ptsd. They had such a big mouth after winning that game, yet they are nowhere to be found. Fucking crashouts, except for Asuna probably
Even thought he got absolutely robbed of an amazing valorant career by false accusations Sinatraa dodged an absolute nuclear bomb of a failure the overwatch league became
Bro what? The fucking audio clips are out there and if you are actually brain dead enough to think that was some roleplaying shit then you’ve never touched a woman in your life.
His career ended when he left overwatch. Valorant is such a boring and ez game to learn becoming radiant in compared to top 500 in overwatch as soon as he chose the easier game the competitive scene for him died. Didn’t even get accepted by the community they out him on the spot over allegations and never gave him a chance. Poor guy… I wish he would’ve stayed with us and just played valorant on the side and maybe tried the teams only on the side this really did ruin him if he agreed or anyone else agrees ppl will look back at what happened on this game and the community and treat him differently bc of it in a negative way… but he’s making good money now so I’m happy for the guy
@@Risk_NAhe made the fallout from the allegations worse than it needed to be fair, like everyone knoes your employer isn't gonna be happy if you don't cooperate with an in or external investigation because even if you're innocent it's a bad precedent to set yet he did it anyways and got suspended even if orgs were okay with the brand risk the suspension is making people question his skill level, a suspension which really didn't need to happen
@@Emerald_Forge legally, he did the right thing. Riot's "investigation" meant nothing as Riot itself have problems regarding the same thing. The accusation was something that could've gone into the legal realm, which the accuser didn't choose to pursue. Yes, he cooked his career prospect, but he protected himself legally.
@@silentKeys20 Wasn't the reason why Riot punished him for "not cooperating" because he claimed he had evidence of his proof but then said he deleted it? Whether or not he actually had the video or not/intended to turn it over, the best/right legal option would have been to keep his mouth closed from the get go.
He's still in his prime. Anything between 18-27 even later 20s lol. Shroud is 30 and could still compete in Valorant if he wanted to/dedicated his time to it.
Doesnt matter what he did or did not do or how good he is. Dude was a toxic piece of shit from the beginning. And I imagine he got influenced from dafran since they were on the same team around the same time dafran got banned. He had good mechanics in OW but got mvp in 2019 for holding left click. If you go back and watch that season he wasnt popping off. He got picked first all the time. Shock popped off enabling sinatra because of the meta, not because he was anything special.
@@o-z7407 the prosecution was not continued because the victim stopped it due to her mental health (the situation caused her to become suicidal), not because he was proven innocent. Big difference
Can you explain these types of comments cuz I see them all the time but don't understand. Let's give abuser means sinatraa right? So let's give sinatraa a platform means valorant hmm. So you are saying any person who believes in the allegations and says in sarcasm that let's give an abuser a platform is a clown. So according to you allegations are wrong?
he's not an abuser technically because he wasn't put in jail or convicted, because his ex who said he sa her also didnt follow through with the case.(for mental health reason apparently)
It's too much to call him an abuser. His ex girlfriend literally provided 0 evidence of his alleged abuse. Are we supposed to just believe every claim a woman makes? Haven't people already learned through the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard fiasco that some women lie? If Sinatra did abuse his ex, I would like to see some evidence from both sides. Until then, I won't go and call him an abuser nor call the girl a false victim.
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"Wake up on a nice bed, check my garage full of supercars, go outside to have a good walk? Surely it wouldn't matter if I bottom frag on a game" - Truly humble words of The Humble King Himself, Jay "No cappa" Won
You forgot thanos.
@@Katniss0000 "Bro's actually Thanos"
I personally feel that this video is more like "the history of Sinatraa in Valorant" and not "HOW GOOD is Sinatraa really?", was kinda expecting a stats videos and pro player clips saying how good he actually is. Kinda surface level but still a well-produced video otherwise.
literally lmao its like one of those "ending explained" videos that dont actually explain the ending and just recap the movie or those "video essays" that are actually dramatic retellings of events
if you dont already know, he was alright. Nothing too special people hype him up way too much, when Tenz subbed in last minute that team became 10 times better. I wanna say he would have been one of the players at that time who retire pretty early but I have heard that he did decently in Tier 2 so I wont discredit him too much
@@starcore7507Sentinels was already doing good with sinatraa, even TenZ on c9 got destroyed by Sen when sinatraa was still in sentinels
@@justarandomperson8926 yeah that C9 was ass, what does this take away from my point? SEN was good, they became much better with TenZ and then Sinatraa ended up forming a fanbase that just glazed him at every possible oppurtunity. Like they say that Riot tries to keep him away from pro play and otherwise he'd be amazing but he legit had tryouts with NRG. He is very eligible to play he's just ass, he has the perfect excuse as well and his fans will ride him no matter what
@@starcore7507 I don't watch sinatraa much anymore, but from what that guy said he seemed to be a lot more than just alright, and you quite literally agreed with him. Sounds like he was crazy, but Tenz is just better. Just cause Tenz is better doesn't make him any worse does it?
this video is so well made
Well said, I already knew it was gonna be a banger the moment I saw Andy oiled up and ready to dance
10:29 he actually trialed for the nrg roster when fns and s0m left. but they got demon1 and ethan because they were obvious much better choices then sinatraa and I think narrate but we all know how that ended up 💀
Ur bricked 😂
@@nicholasquinn461what does that mean
I think they would have rather had Sinatra and narrate especially with how well narrate been playing
@@saibotshawdow5090 this was before split one but yeah would have been interesting for sure :)
Your comment is hindsight.
Also I think Sinatraa is much better now as compared to the old Sinatraa.
you should do a "how good was prime subroza" video
A 2 min vid won’t help him get monetised
@@mduhny it’s enough for a shorts 😭
Yeah that MF was also good.
We haven't seen his prime yet 😂
bet
Havent followed valorant esports in a while, but when sinatraa was still playing he was the biggest innovator in the game
Kind of crazy that Tenz came in right where Sinatraa left off and ended up becoming the biggest Valorant pro.
personally i think he is better than tenz
@honestaimer same opinion
Tenz has the better aim forsure but utility usage, and agent pool might go sinatraa way but he couldn’t prove it on the main stage like tenz did during Iceland and among others
Sinatraa is the BIGGEST wasted potential in E-Sports history. Would love to see him dominate in VCT again...
Gotta agree as a very big analyst in professional valorant, his potential was extremely high and from what I had seen from him he would of dominated.
He should definitely play pro again but honestly, streaming makes the cheese.
He literally said that they treated him like shiit
@@Titax69by “they” u meant the pro players? Or riot?
Hes black listed from pro play because of the controversy im pretty sure.
@@Titax69 He said RIOT treated him like shit. But the Sentinels org stuck by him no matter what. He's been very vocal about how well Sen treats their players.
@@DrNiqx riot and the community (braindeads)
where's the part where you answer the damn question
Tbh he could still prb become a top level player if he decided to play again and an org actually took the risk of picking him up (They should).
His movement is something I still feel like no one else can perfectly imitate and pair that with the phantom and it becomes sooooo good.
he was trialled on NRG but they got demon1
@@chrlzcsand now hes benched 💀 nrg really tried to play the safe choice by picking up demon1 and not sinatraa
if they picked sinatraa they would have been in shangai pretty sure
@@lazzzy5514 maybe because his raze is way better than d1 and he can play sova
He'd just be another yay but instead of Jett, its with Raze. Please don't forget that raze satchels are getting nerfed next patch. It's always "bro if he just got picked up" Bro. The meta, the map pool, the season. It ain't that simple and thats why Yay's been floundering.
I wanna see him play pro. I would love to see how he performs in a completely different meta.
he did play pro lol
we don't have to imagine. it's like benjyfishy on team heretics.
both of them have very different playstyle
benjyfishy's playstyle is like better and more consistent suygetsu. sinatraa is like jingg movement + csgo's fnatic flusha gamesense
@@ingtelcuy5462 I would compare benjy more to less tbf, since imo suygetsu usually plays really passively unlike less and benjy
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! These idiots keep saying “it’s A new mEtA, hE cAnT kEeP up”
Meanwhile benjyfishy is running shxt straight off the couch🤔 yall really are slow sometimes lol
sinatra was the d rose of valorant ngl
frrr they both got serious sexual assault allegations that there fans like to ignore
@@trentp5842 I wonder why we ignore “allegations” 😭 like be fr
@@trentp5842 Can you show me where he was convicted and spent time in prison?
@@kagewtf Can you show me where he was convicted and spent time in prison?
@@Jdm.Lifts-Aesthetics lmfao thats not the burden of proof n if you think it is you oughta reevaluate your view on the world
love how this guy is so scared of offending someone so he doesnt talk about the most important part about this story
We thinking the same thing?
I remember watching him while he played overwatch with the sf shock 😢
Sinatraa had a crazy run in OW, and definitely carried hard when his team won championships, but i dont think anyone in the OW community really considered him "the best in the world". He was a carry on a really good team that facilitated him perfectly to enable him. He still got dunked on when SBB played tracer in the first world cups, and so on.
ive always admired his skill since overwatch and i get his anger for being stabbed in the back by riot. he was one of the firsts, but was dropped right before he could rise in the ranks again. Would love to see him play again but i respect his decision.
"I'm not even trolling, braindead!" -JayWon
simple quote has big meaning.
the allegations..
Just move on already ffs 🤣
Braindead comment.
Sinatraa would be make a great Initator player on a pro team. Everytime i see him playing, even from other players' streams, hes cooking on initator
Yeah let's be honest, the allegations have a lot of logical fallacies and contradictory statements. Don't get me wrong, they both lied and they both didn't make the investigation easier (and I cannot judge who they are in their personal life, probably none of us can), but starting allegations like this on Twitter instead of taking legal action first will always seem fishy. In the end, she dropped the charges; investigations were inconclusive and provided evidence was not nearly enough for any kind of conviction. So what do we have now? His image is forever tarnished without it being clear if he did it or not; she did not have any repercussions. In my eyes and how the justice system should work, someone is innocent until proven guilty, so I think the treatment he gets is unjustified.
Eh, she knew what would happen when she accused him, but he didn’t cooperate w the investigation which would’ve cleared him. There was def something he didn’t want to do in their investigation whether it had been a polygraph or something.
@@drew26 Yeah but neither did she, the infamous video that Sinatraa wanted to provide but later said he deleted it. She did state that she had the video (the video of the audio clip that she already posted) all this time, but she was never asked by Riot to provide it. If this really was her striking evidence to convict him of sexual assault, wouldn't it then be in her best interest to provide this video evidence for investigation and not just wait until it is asked of her? I would completely understand not giving such a video to Riot, but at least to the police or whoever she is in talks with to take legal action.
@@drew26And don't get me wrong, if he did it and it can be proven then I'd 100% want him to get punished, but by law not by some gaming company, community or twitter warlords. But ruining someones public image and career by making claims you can't follow up on is defamation. ( I think it is punishable by law but I am not 100% sure. I'm not fully informed on local law as I am not american).
@@ryker2977 True, but in this situation not cooperating makes him lose more than her if she didn't cooperate
@@ryker2977 Defamation of character only applies when the statement said is proven false and also if he did that he would look like an asshole, so idek ab all that
We need a Curry video
if he didnt get accused of some allegations, i think we would've seen sen win 3 vct's and the first champions
love your content bro keep it up!
my humble king
Nice video keep up the good work
cngrats on 10k
Thank you!
I miss my goat sinatraa
Thank you for this video - really interesting😊
Sinatra is the D.rose of esports
kobe of esports
No cuz he won a chip on a different game 😂
sintraa returns in Marvel Rivals esports kekw
Thats kinda what I'm expecting also tbh. It's the most similar to the game he was dominate in. So if you goes all out as soon as it comes out he should be able to obtain similar heights as he did in OW. That is if he still wants to compete and if Rivals has a good Esports scene.
he's more into deadlock than marvel rivals i'm pretty sure
if sentinels remove sacy. tenz sinatraa zekken on the same team would be insane.
*insanely troll
@@rev0live752 lmao
Sacy is better choice than him
Can you do one on zombs too?
we need him back plz
prime sinatraa coulda been compared to tenz if it wasnt for all those allegations and gettin banned from vct
He wasn't actually banned. Teams just don't want to risk picking him up.
@@solaris218 he was banned for 6 months after that teams didnt want to risk picking him up but he was banned for half a year so they also had to question if hes still as good as he was
well sinatraa was able to beat tenz back then
Asuna is the prime example that people think Sinatraa will be. Good fragger, excellent movement, but not really considered a top player. They are just riding on the popularity of Sinatraa in overwatch and early victory of sentinels in valorant. if he is really good, teams will take him even in tier 2.
he chooses not to play, only activity was on UB and trialling on NRG, why should he play in tier 2 when he can make 100x more streaming
@@chrlzcs my thoughts exactly.
He's far too expensive and nobody wants a liability like him.
The way he thinks on the fly and use his utility, he's a lot closer to nAts than Asuna. He's a finesse player that's also instinctively smart
@@chrlzcshe does not care enough about competing in game..... otherwise he would have played in tier 2 ....he just wants to join t1 team
This guy looks like the night stalker lol
hes literally the best
I just wanna see him compete again so much potential wasted trust me he can be the best raze player in world
Sinatra didnt ruin his life thought
prime TARIK content king pls
Hes great onstage
Ofc you had to bring up sen vs 100t to give me ptsd. They had such a big mouth after winning that game, yet they are nowhere to be found. Fucking crashouts, except for Asuna probably
Even thought he got absolutely robbed of an amazing valorant career by false accusations Sinatraa dodged an absolute nuclear bomb of a failure the overwatch league became
Bro what? The fucking audio clips are out there and if you are actually brain dead enough to think that was some roleplaying shit then you’ve never touched a woman in your life.
His career ended when he left overwatch. Valorant is such a boring and ez game to learn becoming radiant in compared to top 500 in overwatch as soon as he chose the easier game the competitive scene for him died. Didn’t even get accepted by the community they out him on the spot over allegations and never gave him a chance. Poor guy… I wish he would’ve stayed with us and just played valorant on the side and maybe tried the teams only on the side this really did ruin him if he agreed or anyone else agrees ppl will look back at what happened on this game and the community and treat him differently bc of it in a negative way… but he’s making good money now so I’m happy for the guy
I love your channel profile pic lmao
He also played in the Marvel Rivals tournament alongside some other players such as iiRemix and Space. They only placed I belive top 5 tho
top 5 with iremix is pretty good against aim assist controller players
He is his own worst enemy. Hes one of yhe most insecure people ive ever seen. Hes young, i hope he figures his life out
I mean to be fair after the allegations on him which bascially made no orgs want him, he probably just decided to stream and make money that way.
@@Risk_NA maybe. Or teams avoided him for so long nobody cares how good he is anymore
@@Risk_NAhe made the fallout from the allegations worse than it needed to be fair, like everyone knoes your employer isn't gonna be happy if you don't cooperate with an in or external investigation because even if you're innocent it's a bad precedent to set yet he did it anyways and got suspended even if orgs were okay with the brand risk the suspension is making people question his skill level, a suspension which really didn't need to happen
@@Emerald_Forge legally, he did the right thing. Riot's "investigation" meant nothing as Riot itself have problems regarding the same thing. The accusation was something that could've gone into the legal realm, which the accuser didn't choose to pursue. Yes, he cooked his career prospect, but he protected himself legally.
@@silentKeys20 Wasn't the reason why Riot punished him for "not cooperating" because he claimed he had evidence of his proof but then said he deleted it? Whether or not he actually had the video or not/intended to turn it over, the best/right legal option would have been to keep his mouth closed from the get go.
Good video
and the Egirl walks free..
He's still in his prime. Anything between 18-27 even later 20s lol. Shroud is 30 and could still compete in Valorant if he wanted to/dedicated his time to it.
I wager sinatraa could still compete at the highest level if he came back
Doesnt matter what he did or did not do or how good he is. Dude was a toxic piece of shit from the beginning. And I imagine he got influenced from dafran since they were on the same team around the same time dafran got banned. He had good mechanics in OW but got mvp in 2019 for holding left click. If you go back and watch that season he wasnt popping off. He got picked first all the time. Shock popped off enabling sinatra because of the meta, not because he was anything special.
It's crazzy but A bum won't make anything so all fans stop wondering your king is too busy in worldly desires..
now do PROD
shaz’s father had passed away before first strike so they hadn’t practiced at all leading up to the event, it’s kinda a moot point
Di ride documentary
He trailed for NRG 2024 season but they picked up demon1 and Ethan instead.
And that aged like milk.
one of their worst reasons
can you make cned
Que vídeo tan interesante, me pasaré por los otros🐐
Prod prob cared lmao
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False Swipe Gaming reference?
Where?
if only bro didnt beat on his girl
he didn’t but aight
cle0h bad asf ngl
bro prolly owns every team if he wasnt tempband cus of those allegations💀
Sinatras prime was ow
the allegations were everything but serious
this ares noob will get dog walked by primmie
First
Wasn't good enough to escape the allegations :(
"allegations"? There is literal video proof of his abuse
@@Lara-bc2qp you mean the audio clip right?
@@Lara-bc2qp if he was guilty he would be in prison lmao?
@@o-z7407 the prosecution was not continued because the victim stopped it due to her mental health (the situation caused her to become suicidal), not because he was proven innocent. Big difference
@@Lara-bc2qp sad but I wonder why would she come out so suddenly during the prime of his career?
Overrated
honestly could care less if he came back, he fucked up his own career
Lets give an abuser a platform 🤡
the girl dropped the case. youre uneducated it you dont know what dropping a case means
Can you explain these types of comments cuz I see them all the time but don't understand.
Let's give abuser means sinatraa right?
So let's give sinatraa a platform means valorant hmm.
So you are saying any person who believes in the allegations and says in sarcasm that let's give an abuser a platform is a clown. So according to you allegations are wrong?
Average twitter incel
answer: mid
Don't give an abuser a platform
the girl dropped the case. youre uneducated it you dont know what dropping a case means
he's not an abuser technically because he wasn't put in jail or convicted, because his ex who said he sa her also didnt follow through with the case.(for mental health reason apparently)
It's too much to call him an abuser. His ex girlfriend literally provided 0 evidence of his alleged abuse. Are we supposed to just believe every claim a woman makes? Haven't people already learned through the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard fiasco that some women lie? If Sinatra did abuse his ex, I would like to see some evidence from both sides. Until then, I won't go and call him an abuser nor call the girl a false victim.
arent you bringing this video into peoples yt homepages by commenting and making it more popular?
Basically Sinatraa was average.
Overrated ranked player.
he isnt even a ranked player?