INVINCIBLE Explained: Why Anissa Is The MOST HATED Character In The Show

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  • INVINCIBLE Explained: Why Anissa Is The MOST HATED Character In The Show. We explain the Viltrumite Anissa and talk one of the most controversial moments from the comic books. We breakdown the new Amazon Prime Comic Book Show Invincible and talk Marvel & DC Easter Eggs, characters explained, Mark, Omni-Man, Atom Eve, Allen The Alien, Dupli-kate, The Lizard League, Rexplode, Cecil, Donald, The Immortal, Angstrom Levy, The Guardians Of The Globe, Sequids and more.
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    Ok, so Invincibles just debuted a big comic character who's one of the most controversial ones in the entire run.
    She’s one of the most despised, downright despicable villainesses to ever be featured in a comic book...ever. This week alones seen some massive ones too with a certain someone showing up in X-men 97.
    But who is this Sasha Calle Supergirl look-alike and why has she got the internet in a frenzy? Well that’s what we’re gonna break down in this video as we go through the characters most shocking moment.
    Be warned, there will be full comic spoilers and discussion of sensitive topics relating to assault. Anissa someone who causes some massive trauma for Mark and she’s definitely a character who needs a trigger warning.
    So just a heads up and with that out the way, let’s get into who Vanissa is.
    Now in the in the show she is voiced by Shantel VanSanten you may recognise as Patty Pivot In The Flash.
    Anissa first debuted in Issue 44 and is largely the same as we saw during Episode 7.
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  • @heavyspoilers
    @heavyspoilers  Месяц назад +33

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    • @jessetorres8738
      @jessetorres8738 Месяц назад +1

      I gotta say, I really enjoyed her introduction into the Amazon Prime series, though I am not really looking for that particular moment between her & Mark being adapted. Also, I was surprised that she was remodeled a bit in the show that she resembles Sasha Calle's Supergirl.

    • @juggaloclownpreacher
      @juggaloclownpreacher Месяц назад

      Dude that last part talking about how this is just not a normal thing On their planet is not true. Male in fact it is a normal thing for someone to be taken by force and forcibly create a child. Mark's father literally tells them this afterwards trying to get him to understand why she did the thing Even now it's still messed up. Many things normal on their planet are not normal on earth including that.

    • @anonymous63809
      @anonymous63809 Месяц назад +1

      I hate her for not ripping off Amber's head 😭😭😭

    • @abdulwakilhamza-omonori9016
      @abdulwakilhamza-omonori9016 Месяц назад

      Personally I don't hate Anissa
      And I've asked alot of people and a good 90% all said the liked her so I don't think she is hated

    • @CanadianWolverine
      @CanadianWolverine Месяц назад

      I don't know that my thoughts on Anissa are helpful, I found something about her in the latest episode indescribably hot. The voice actor Shantel VanSanten is bringing something amazing to the character that has a much different vibe than what I had gotten from other Viltrumites previously, its almost like I can hear in her that she's susceptible to being changed by humanity like Marc's dad Omniman was.
      Meanwhile, yeah, comic Anissa has this sneer and deep disregard for the care of others that is drawn in her face and body language that is sociopathic and psychotic. If that's where they take her character again, I hope the voice actor is up to bringing together this latest episode's performance with that.

  • @ssj4922
    @ssj4922 Месяц назад +607

    It's funny to me that at this point, the mere word: 'Anissa' can pretty much be considered a trigger word for Invincible Comic Book Fans

    • @yuvalgabay1023
      @yuvalgabay1023 Месяц назад

      Also fuunt anissa is the word for raping (in a general term) in Hebrew

    • @HishamA.N_Comicbroe
      @HishamA.N_Comicbroe Месяц назад +23

      As a comic fan agreed. I'm interested in seeing what they do here tho.

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 Месяц назад

      She sexy as hell

    • @astropunch7708
      @astropunch7708 Месяц назад +8

      Anissa

    • @aaronfrantz25
      @aaronfrantz25 Месяц назад +7

      ​@Infinity-has IT fr ain't gonna happen like the comics. Yall gotta really think in this day in age, with how everyone is, I'll be shocked if Anissa steals a kiss, that's bout it tho 😂

  • @USLethal
    @USLethal Месяц назад +91

    I love how they've kept Thragg hidden so far. MFs aren't ready

    • @benn454
      @benn454 Месяц назад +1

      If only Freddie was still alive to voice him...

    • @waffles6132
      @waffles6132 Месяц назад

      ​@@benn454freddie?

    • @benn454
      @benn454 Месяц назад

      @@waffles6132 Freddie Mercury

  • @mr.lordstarscream1570
    @mr.lordstarscream1570 Месяц назад +416

    I was absolutely scared to the bone for mark when anissa appeared

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 Месяц назад +4

      Why?

    • @Mr.Rabot6688
      @Mr.Rabot6688 Месяц назад +14

      ​@@iamme4494 these invincible boys are weird dr light was a r@pist in DC comics and nobody talks about it

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 Месяц назад

      @@Mr.Rabot6688 Yup he tore enlongated man wife ass up

    • @Spider-Man4266
      @Spider-Man4266 Месяц назад

      @@iamme4494if you read the comics you would know why. It gets crazy between the 2, that’s all I‘ll say.

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 Месяц назад +2

      @@Spider-Man4266 oh I read the comics and tbh she should’ve put Mark on child support

  • @deadsoon
    @deadsoon Месяц назад +215

    I like that Mark visibly struggles with intimacy after this for quite a while. He can't even make out with Eve without bursting into tears.
    And it is addressed directly eventually when he comes clean to Eve about what happened. It's the first important step to heal from traumatic events; being able to express what happened to you, to put it into words. And to do it with someone that stays and supports you.

    • @catspaw3092
      @catspaw3092 Месяц назад +9

      I'm glad Mark told Eve what Anissa did to him.

    • @bobbyshmurda6094
      @bobbyshmurda6094 Месяц назад

      What a beta male

    • @jamesdavis8561
      @jamesdavis8561 Месяц назад +1

      Thank you some one actually read the source material and didn't just post some soyboy daydream woke bullshit.

    • @luechmillionz
      @luechmillionz Месяц назад

      Imagine being “traumatized” cuz a hot warrior chick took your dk 😂

    • @ICU1337
      @ICU1337 Месяц назад

      @@jamesdavis8561 🤡🚮

  • @previnsnaidu1
    @previnsnaidu1 Месяц назад +175

    As a guy who was taken advantage of by a girl while I was blacked out drunk, I appreciated how you handled that topic with a lot of care and respect, not an easy topic to discuss as a man but should be addressed more freely. Thanks Paul

  • @ssj4922
    @ssj4922 Месяц назад +369

    I am perpetually and completely terrified on how they'll adapt Anissa and Marks more ahem, _infamous meeting_

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 Месяц назад +31

      I hope it’s graphic ❤

    • @osiamelebogo
      @osiamelebogo Месяц назад +85

      ​@@iamme4494 brother eughhh

    • @randomrey6568
      @randomrey6568 Месяц назад +2

      yup

    • @saljpal3
      @saljpal3 Месяц назад +13

      I really hope they don't change it.

    • @aaronfrantz25
      @aaronfrantz25 Месяц назад +39

      They are 100$ gonna change it to fit modern audiences, say what you want, I'm be shocked if they even get Anissa to steal a kiss 💀

  • @Sunstar808
    @Sunstar808 Месяц назад +99

    Great job Paul breaking down Anissa’s character explaining what she did to Mark with sensitivity and respect for those who might have difficulty dealing with the topic.

  • @BadgerOWesley
    @BadgerOWesley Месяц назад +268

    If they leave it out, I will be disappointed.
    Anissa and her son are important, and shying away from what Anissa is possible of...is not ok.
    Don't make a show about a book if you can't deal with what the book would.

    • @LviathanGG
      @LviathanGG Месяц назад +37

      I wish the creators stuck their guns on this one and do this part of the story. Woke culture has destroyed stories like these when translated to media and I hope they don't fold.

    • @VictorIV0310
      @VictorIV0310 Месяц назад +1

      @@LviathanGGBalam Industries sponsored field trip.

    • @oldfan4049
      @oldfan4049 Месяц назад

      If they leave it out they'll be f*cking sexists!
      There're SO MUCH awareness about male-on-female violence in every bit of media, everyone know that man can grape a woman, but when someone tries to tell about the vise-versa thing there are too many people smirking and brashing this thing out, like "no man can be graped, they'll actually like that", and that's so outrageous!((...
      Aknowledging the mens grape trauma is a way for equality between sexes imho.

    • @CarlyCarly1636
      @CarlyCarly1636 Месяц назад +23

      @@LviathanGGI don’t think you can blame this one on woke people. It is religious groups that have always band explicit content in books, tv and movies

    • @aaronfrantz25
      @aaronfrantz25 Месяц назад

      Too bad lol, you ain't getting the rape scene, they gonna work ALL the way around it, why ask in this day in age?

  • @Blastertronus
    @Blastertronus Месяц назад +114

    What’s more disgusting is that a good handful of people support Anissa for what she did and that Mark “should feel lucky”. Like, I know that the double standards in our society is pretty bad but come on people, justifying Assault? Not cool…

    • @Ghost-pb4ts
      @Ghost-pb4ts Месяц назад +14

      pretty normal in viltrumite culture
      strong choose their partner like in animal kingdom
      human will also fall back to it if we go back to savage mode

    • @kenjordan954
      @kenjordan954 Месяц назад +10

      The main problem is when you are comparing different upbrings to your own without any context. It's not just coming from a different culture, it's coming from a different world. On that world that isn't even any opposing view. There is no democracy or different party. Its conform or die period. It's not about Anissa looking good or Mark being lucky. It's that Anissa would not even be alive if she had not adopted the ways she had been taught. She literally would have been killed. Everything she has ever known is kill or be killed and take whatever you want for not only survival of self but survival of your entire people. It's not even how Jor El was the opposite of Zod. He was there to counter Zod. So then we expect to her to come to Earth and hold hands, ask for dates and not kill. Its even more of a fantasy to think she will just become some one else over night. She literally did not know what she did not know.

    • @Jajuan44
      @Jajuan44 Месяц назад +8

      I wouldn't say I support her, just that if I was in Mark's place I would just go with it. I would feel lucky, but I'm not going to say Mark should feel lucky. Hope that clears it up.

    • @Ghost-pb4ts
      @Ghost-pb4ts Месяц назад

      mark was in relationship with eve during that incident@@Jajuan44

    • @DJworks9to5
      @DJworks9to5 Месяц назад

      I’d let Anissa do whatever to me ngl

  • @joaovitorreisdasilva9573
    @joaovitorreisdasilva9573 Месяц назад +51

    I really hope they tackle the men being raped issue. It doesn't need to take away from women, but it is still a problem for those who go through that, you know.

    • @killmonger5097
      @killmonger5097 Месяц назад

      If the roles were reversed I bet you would say leave it out lol

    • @joaovitorreisdasilva9573
      @joaovitorreisdasilva9573 Месяц назад +6

      @killmonger5097 hmm, if they tackle the issue responsibly, why cut it out? Sexual assault, or even the constant fear of it, is a major issue for women. Plus, they should've left the bit where she mentions her husband hitted her (met some women who had terrible experiences before and they kept the cycle going in a really fucked up way, it makes her more human in a sense SPECIALLY because she gets "better" later on)

    • @caligreenclean
      @caligreenclean Месяц назад

      No it’s not. There’s nothing close of any epidemic of men getting forcibly groped by women. And yes, you are taking away from the attention to women.

    • @superretrou6776
      @superretrou6776 Месяц назад

      @@killmonger5097The boys kept in their show.

    • @killmonger5097
      @killmonger5097 Месяц назад

      @@superretrou6776 not really in the show it’s look more like she was cheating and in TWD they didn’t keep the Governor Michonne scene

  • @sebastienbusque2312
    @sebastienbusque2312 Месяц назад +29

    As someone who experienced something similar in my early years, I know all too well that scars like these run VERY deep.

  • @mattcliburn
    @mattcliburn Месяц назад +95

    Anissa has definitely a sasha calle look. My friends and family watch and suport you. The channel helps us especially me get thru hard times.

    • @heavyspoilers
      @heavyspoilers  Месяц назад +16

      Ah thanks so much Matt that means a lot mate and all the best to you and yours too

  • @thomascox9744
    @thomascox9744 Месяц назад +16

    Honestly, as someone who has experienced this, I think this needs to be shown in the show. We need more representation of this in modern media, and they could change it to make it more sympathetic towards mark; focusing on the effects it had on him rather than using it as a way to show how evil Anissa is

    • @toledochristianmatthew9919
      @toledochristianmatthew9919 Месяц назад +2

      And also have Anissa face the consequences of her actions. The worst part of this in the comics she gets very little consequence for what she did to Mark. Like Mark tried to hide that traumatic experience from anyone out of shame and Anissa constantly mocks Mark over it. She was downright vile. And when Nolan and Atom Eve finally found out and were about to tear her up for what she did Mark freaking defended her. The whole thing felt it should have been handled better.

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Месяц назад

      @@toledochristianmatthew9919 if only people hated Mystique and Poison Ivy (who have done similar actions to what Anissa has done) just as much as Anissa.

  • @dewey_montana
    @dewey_montana Месяц назад +29

    Anissa: "I don't want to have a kid"
    Also Anissa: "I'm having a kid whether you like it or not"

    • @killmonger5097
      @killmonger5097 Месяц назад

      Anissa only has kids with Mark and Scott

  • @mx9226
    @mx9226 Месяц назад +23

    Even if it’s uncomfortable, I do want to see her grow and understand the magnitude of what she did.

    • @tonystank3091
      @tonystank3091 Месяц назад +1

      Believe it or not, she actually *did.* That didn't stop the audience from wishing death on her though. Someone said she, as a writing tool, was designed to ask the audience if they're capable of forgiveness. If that's the case, then for a significant portion of the audience, if not a majority, the answer is a resounding "no."

  • @gopremiummedia29455
    @gopremiummedia29455 Месяц назад +58

    Given that Anissa’s character journey seems like a rollercoaster of redemption and consequences. It’s interesting how the mere talk about her can stir up strong reactions and can instantly spark strong reactions and memories. She could potentially become worse than Nolan.

    • @GreenBro11
      @GreenBro11 Месяц назад +14

      She is worse than Nolan. That’s not even debatable. As far as we know Nolan never sexually assaulted anyone and he feels remorse for his actions. He regrets a lot of the lives he took and became better. Anissa never truly expresses regret for her actions whether it be her assault in Mark or anyone she hurt or killed when she was loyal to Thragg. She does change and soften like all the viltrumites on Earth do except Thragg, but they never really give her a moment to reflect on herself and grow as a character.

    • @firstlast9846
      @firstlast9846 Месяц назад +5

      She doesn’t really redeem herself tho.

    • @shadowX2121
      @shadowX2121 Месяц назад +3

      @@GreenBro11 That was my biggest problem with the comic book version of Anissa and if they do this again I hope they do a better job this time around.

    • @catspaw3092
      @catspaw3092 Месяц назад

      She is worse than Nolan at least he wouldn't stoop so low as to assualt anyone especially a woman I always felt he was above that killing yes, but forcing himself on someone na, Nolan ain't havin that. Anissa could've mated with another Vitrimite to give her the child she wanted so yeah I'm glad she's dead I simply hated what she did to Mark he didn't deserve that. Had Nolan found out what she did he would literally tore Anissa in half.

    • @Hakwbebsu26
      @Hakwbebsu26 Месяц назад +5

      You can redeem yourself after doing r***? If this was man to a women i doubt you would be accepting any “redemption arc”

  • @Steveincorp
    @Steveincorp Месяц назад +10

    "Love me or hate me. Both are in my favor. For if you love me, I will always be in your heart; if you hate me, I will always be in your mind." - William Shakespeare

  • @benogidan
    @benogidan Месяц назад +33

    I would be interested to see how Amazon deal with the storyline and I wouldn't want them to omit it at all obviously not show it in graphic detail but as a guy who is perceived to be strong by his peers but has been taken advantage of by a woman, I would like it to be understood by more people, that people who look strong can go through assault too and need their own sort of healing journey. It needs to be normalized that assault victims can be anyone not just people others perceive as weak

  • @rayzermaniac5218
    @rayzermaniac5218 Месяц назад +20

    Its not even that she does the thing in the first place. Its that she gets away with it in virtually every way possible. Mark hides what she did and even covers for her. Anissa openly mocks what she did multiple times, as if she was talking about something trivial. She names the grape child after Mark, as if it needed to be any worse. She is also never punished for it. Nolan and Eve briefly get angry at her and Mark actually defends her from them. Its like take one of the worst things you can do to someone, then get away with it completely, even having your victim cover for you and defend you after the fact. Basically think of how you can make getting graped worse in every possible way and this is what you get here. The whole thing is vile. There are certain points where no amount of redemption can make up for it.

    • @bmuffinz
      @bmuffinz Месяц назад +1

      In the “5 years later” context she apologizes multiple times and is completely changed and saves a main character

    • @DrinkALotOfCoffee
      @DrinkALotOfCoffee Месяц назад +1

      Because it's a reality in our world and lives.. Gross as it is.

    • @DromusTH
      @DromusTH 27 дней назад

      Viltrumites brother

  • @MCB.
    @MCB. Месяц назад +31

    Poor Mark, I wish I could take his place so he wouldn’t have to deal with this.

    • @carllevi3136
      @carllevi3136 Месяц назад +4

      😂

    • @yoyomayne
      @yoyomayne Месяц назад +3

      😂😂

    • @MickSky15
      @MickSky15 Месяц назад +3

      Me too bro 😂

    • @psumanth8470
      @psumanth8470 Месяц назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @xgensean
      @xgensean Месяц назад

      Take one for the team warrior. And as a last resort reminder ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

  • @BrianVaughn
    @BrianVaughn Месяц назад +5

    The whole Anissa story line is shocking but it is great to see a comic address on this topic. I think her character arch is compelling and I hope they don't skip over it.

  • @jessekedar
    @jessekedar Месяц назад +31

    Hope they keep the story arc in the show. Like Paul said, female on male assault doesn't get spoken about often

    • @killmonger5097
      @killmonger5097 Месяц назад +1

      In the comics it’s a straight joke tho I can’t take it serious Robert Kirkman clearly doesn’t

    • @jonathancunningham8739
      @jonathancunningham8739 Месяц назад

      @@killmonger5097 Are you stupid? it was treated seriously.

  • @G3N3515DM
    @G3N3515DM Месяц назад +5

    The similarity of Mark telling Immortal that he was faster and stronger than him so he needs to give way to Mark in dire situations and Anissa saying that Earth would be better if they just knelt to Viltrumite rule... sick!

  • @that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
    @that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG Месяц назад +5

    But i actually applaud Robert Kirkman for doing this. SA is such a taboo and almost whispered about topic, but Robert Kirkman handled this issue with about as much grace as he could and i sincerely hope the show will do so as well.
    Seeing someone as powerful as Mark being susceptible to this, and the trauma that he faced going afterward, Eve and his family trying to aid the trauma, it's messed up that it happened.. but this does happen. You can be Invincible, but no one is immune to trauma and the darkness that accompanies that trauma.
    Anissa does "redeem" herself in the comics, and she actually gives her life to save Eve to show the remorse she felt after experiencing the love that changed Nolan.
    I dont agree that Anissa wasnt remorseful at all, as Viltrumites believe in the strong survive. If she hadnt had a family of her own and experienced the love of a family and humanity, she wouldn't have actually changed.
    Anissa truly is despicable, but the tears she shed as she died is akin to shedding the ironfisted grip that Viltrumite ideology had ruled over her. That was what Robert Kirkman had tried to get across.. it's the way people live and are brought up to think that shapes us as people. Anissa was a product of her environment; a ruthless, unsympathetic, and unrelenting killer.
    Earth had changed her, and I had a hard time wrapping my head around that for years when i thought about this scenario. From Nolan finding out and almost killing Anissa, to Eve squaring up with Anissa when she sees her, this topic is so sensitive that it's hard to say that Anissa becomes a better person. SA is the transgression of ones private and personal energy, its almost an assault against ones soul, which is why it's such a personal and unforgivable crime. Anissa then giving her own as an attempt to repair the damage she did to Mark's by saving his loved ones is a poetic end to such a dividing and despicable character.
    Like i said, Robert Kirkman handled this situation as best as he could. You have to read the entire story before wrapping your head around this.

  • @johnfelix503
    @johnfelix503 Месяц назад +14

    I hope they change the reason she did what she did with Mark so that her redemption can be more accepted by the audience.
    She is being pressured by Thragg to mate with humans but she has a mental bias that human males are weak and inferior. So she goes to Mark whos a hybrid and also the son of Nolan, one of the strongest Viltrumites. She is basically doing selective breeding.
    Now first she ATTEMPTS TO SEDUCE HIM but he gets resistant. Anissa then feeling desperate due to Thragg's pressure decides to force herself onto him so she can fulfill her mission and avoid punishment.
    People were mad at her not just because she raped him, it was because they showed that she ENJOYED doing it.
    So if they want to make her more redeemable they should emphasize the points I made about the desperation from the pressure imposed by Thragg and the Empire and NOT make her enjoy forcing herself on Mark. Even make her feel disgusted by herself at some point.

    • @carllevi3136
      @carllevi3136 Месяц назад +2

      I could see that..

    • @Shadowblade_-yi5hr
      @Shadowblade_-yi5hr Месяц назад +2

      That could POSSIBLY work. Especially if they take an alternative route where during their fight, when Anissa is rushing Mark to the ground in the sky, maybe they could make that crash into the crater knock Mark out. But then when he comes to, he realizes what Anissa has done & sees her flying off in the distance. And then that’s where he goes “Oh, God.” And if they were to take the “didn’t want to but had to” route like you said, then they should definitely take out the scenes of her mocking him afterwards.

    • @johnfelix503
      @johnfelix503 Месяц назад +2

      @@Shadowblade_-yi5hr Exactly! Hope they improve this in the show.

  • @Conor2400
    @Conor2400 Месяц назад +8

    Really enjoying these videos., can tell how much you love these comics and it's great to see!!

  • @tonystank3091
    @tonystank3091 Месяц назад +4

    Let me save you 10 minutes.
    Anissa was Fleece Johnson, and Mark chose the hard way. We saw it on-screen in excruciating detail. There you go.

  • @HeWhoRemains42
    @HeWhoRemains42 Месяц назад

    Excellent breakdown on this crucial yet sensitive topic Paul. 💯

  • @jessetorres8738
    @jessetorres8738 Месяц назад +24

    I gotta say, I really enjoyed her introduction into the Amazon Prime series, though I am not really looking for that particular moment between her & Mark being adapted. Also, I was surprised that she was remodeled a bit in the show that she resembles Sasha Calle's Supergirl.

    • @DuendeTortuga
      @DuendeTortuga Месяц назад +7

      That's how she looks later on in the comics, her hairstyle at least, you can see some images in this video

  • @TimothyMReynolds
    @TimothyMReynolds Месяц назад +2

    Great coverage as usual. On camera presentation 👍

  • @soupxxtime
    @soupxxtime Месяц назад +11

    I really appreciate this channel being so respectful on the topic of SA.

  • @Simon_petrikov_501
    @Simon_petrikov_501 Месяц назад +6

    I hope they keep it in the show and they teach that assault can happen to everyone

  • @guillermoceballos2765
    @guillermoceballos2765 Месяц назад +4

    3:43 Damn bro didn’t have to be called out like that 🤧

  • @rogerbruere2135
    @rogerbruere2135 Месяц назад +25

    New haircut looks good!

    • @robertcallaway2015
      @robertcallaway2015 Месяц назад

      I'd say so too. Her physical depictions in the comic were hit & miss in my opinion with some looking adequate enough & the others appearing downright appealing. No doubt this was purposely done to make her action on Mark consciously more of a deplorable act.

    • @rogerbruere2135
      @rogerbruere2135 Месяц назад

      @@robertcallaway2015 I meant Paul's haircut hahaha not the comic book lady.
      Sorry for the confusion.

  • @mizzlchieizzl
    @mizzlchieizzl Месяц назад

    Season one was so good, I went out and read the first compendium. Really impressive how they kept the story great and even improved on some things for the show. The Angstrom Levy thing, I remember just being thunderstruck at the end of their fight. Really looking forward to what they do with that this Thursday.

  • @andrewpetterson6477
    @andrewpetterson6477 Месяц назад +1

    Picked up the three hard cover compendium’s and ran through all of them in about a month, one of my favorite stories ever told in any medium

  • @yasianproductiontales8640
    @yasianproductiontales8640 Месяц назад +2

    I can’t wait for the 180 flip to happen. It seems like non comic fans are in love with Anissa which is to be expected but none of them know about how much of a monster she really is

    • @jonathancunningham8739
      @jonathancunningham8739 Месяц назад

      They will still love her ever since Resident Evil 8 women like her are seen as sigh "Goddesses".

  • @kwamephillips7392
    @kwamephillips7392 Месяц назад +3

    I thought Anissa was dangerous and she was amazing in episode 7. Exactly how to build a compelling villain. But all this…. Damn. Just damn…😭😭

  • @thend4427
    @thend4427 Месяц назад +4

    3:43 called me out 😭

  • @danielhughes5932
    @danielhughes5932 Месяц назад +5

    And the other viltrumites were implied to also take part in that "mating" ritual too there were just no other females we got pov from

  • @bmuffinz
    @bmuffinz Месяц назад +5

    I wonder how many people are forgetting her character arc and redemption or they only know of her from the SA

    • @Nerd_1537
      @Nerd_1537 Месяц назад

      How can one redeem a r@pist, a purely evil individual?

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Месяц назад

      @bmuffinz did she really earn it tho? Not only she crossed lines with no return but She’s unapologetic as hell.

    • @bmuffinz
      @bmuffinz Месяц назад +2

      @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 did you finish the comic run because I’m not going to post extreme spoilers to validate my point

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Месяц назад

      @@bmuffinz I know all about it

    • @bmuffinz
      @bmuffinz Месяц назад +3

      @@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 you must be forgetting … go back and refresh yourself as she has a very obvious and definite redemption arc … along with multiple apologies to multiple characters that you claim she is unapologetic

  • @jordonjones3423
    @jordonjones3423 Месяц назад +9

    I like how they improved her look in the show. I like it a lot better

  • @louiswalusimbi8006
    @louiswalusimbi8006 Месяц назад +5

    It says a lot when none of the other viltrumites resort to what she did despite being genocidal warmongers

  • @thaIllYankee
    @thaIllYankee Месяц назад

    Appreciate this video very much 🙏🏾👍🏾👌🏾
    I never collected the Invincible comics but don't consider this info spoil-ery: I consider it the same thing as being a Marvel Nerd didn't spoil any Marvel/MCU movies for me. It gives greater context as to what's to come re: adaptation in a different medium which leads to greater appreciation for the IP.
    The Last of Us is another great example: I'm still traumatized by those first 2 opening scenes 😱 (I'm not a zombie aficionado) but I'm intrigued enough to watch your reviews.
    I wish I knew of the Chicago's Devastation in the Invincible comics before I saw it in the cartoon 👀 But once I learned from this Channel how it was originally depicted, I became a Fan ✊🏾 Knowing this background, I'm very curious as to how this most-sensitive & role-reversal plot will be explored in cartoon form considering the extremes used thus far 👀
    Side Note: I'm better prepared too (I think) for Blood & Cheese this June in HotD thanks to this Channel 😆

  • @igadevivas
    @igadevivas Месяц назад +3

    No she's not. I love her more than all the other characters in the show combined.

  • @jumanjixd1086
    @jumanjixd1086 Месяц назад

    I love Anissa for bringing balls to a show in a day and age where nobody takes risks in popular media.

  • @TheJenmiester
    @TheJenmiester Месяц назад +2

    One of your best mate

  • @cheekster777
    @cheekster777 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you Paul.

  • @danbeaudet6718
    @danbeaudet6718 Месяц назад

    I just finished compendium #2, it's very well done and I am always surprised to see the animated adaptation!

  • @astrogamerg2263
    @astrogamerg2263 Месяц назад

    the into with the theme invincible cracking into a black and blue is marks new suit and man that suit carries a lot of trauma

  • @legostarlord_
    @legostarlord_ Месяц назад

    hahaha you always make me laugh, you're great

  • @johanstenfelt1206
    @johanstenfelt1206 Месяц назад

    Hm, fair and valid points and opinions,
    I hope the Show does better with her Character than the Comics seemingly did, at the very least it seemed like some more showing of what was going on behind the scenes is required.

  • @darrinschwieters
    @darrinschwieters Месяц назад

    it's been some time since ive read the comics. when she showed up, my heart sunk. I wasn't prepared.

  • @GreenBro11
    @GreenBro11 Месяц назад +20

    I hope they do this whole storyline with Anissa way better in the show. It feels at best unresolved and at worst ignored at times. Anissa’s gone for lots of the comic and she never experiences remorse or truly acknowledges her crime. A brief scolding and near beatdown from Omni-man and Eve doesn’t really mean anything, nor does the played out noble sacrifice in death as redemption trope. Feels very dated considering society has matured a lot since the comic. They have a chance to tell a great story here that really handles this subject with more care and respect.

    • @oldfan4049
      @oldfan4049 Месяц назад +3

      I don't see how the society is matured a lot since, considering how many people in the comments here just outright asking for that story to NOT be adapted...
      And just imagine if that one has to be a woman grape story. Imagine how many people would be crucifyied just for thinking that you can ommit a female victim story.

    • @aaronfrantz25
      @aaronfrantz25 Месяц назад

      1. Comic is dumb dated, 2. They are gonna 100% change it to fit modern audiences. 3. Watch them make Anissa likeable and change the whole dynamic of her character, I won't be shocked, it's 2024 lmao

    • @sebastianderry
      @sebastianderry Месяц назад

      What’s the problem with making a character likeable

    • @oldfan4049
      @oldfan4049 Месяц назад +1

      @@sebastianderry visually or by changing MAIN CHARACTER TRAITS and IMPORTANT STORYLINES?

    • @oldfan4049
      @oldfan4049 Месяц назад +3

      @@aaronfrantz25 there's no such thing as "modern audience". There're people who like something and some, who don't. And that was the case forever.

  • @bobdill9516
    @bobdill9516 Месяц назад

    Paul, you did a great job discussing a very sensitive topic. Mad respect for you for doing this

  • @G_weezy_
    @G_weezy_ Месяц назад +3

    No matter what you say in this video, amber will always be the worst character I’ve ever seen in any cartoon, she’s so damn annoying and it really feels like she’s just there for that purpose

    • @juniorgunter7123
      @juniorgunter7123 Месяц назад

      Nah bro. I think being a literal Rapist is gonna make Anissa wear that crown from now on. All the sex Mark and Amber had was consensual, just saying 🤣🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @olcountry8432
    @olcountry8432 Месяц назад +1

    They cant cut it out its one of the best parts of the book. Love Marky

  • @IsiahBradley
    @IsiahBradley Месяц назад +1

    If it's near dawn EST, it must be Paul!!! :) THANKS!!!!

  • @badtemper88
    @badtemper88 Месяц назад +3

    Call me strange but I felt like the genocide outweighs the Anissa event.

  • @amilcareschettini5881
    @amilcareschettini5881 Месяц назад +2

    i assure you if she tried to take it from me i would not fight back.

    • @juniorgunter7123
      @juniorgunter7123 Месяц назад +1

      I'd imagine not, probably the only time you'll ever feel wanted by anyone I'm guessing.

    • @amilcareschettini5881
      @amilcareschettini5881 Месяц назад

      @@juniorgunter7123 I guess i deserved that for acknowlegding a cartoon was drawn and voiced a certain way that i found unusually aesthically appealing.

  • @Locif.06
    @Locif.06 Месяц назад +1

    Where i can watch this manga?

  • @KennySherwood10
    @KennySherwood10 15 дней назад

    im sorry to hear mark had to go through that, Im going to be a good guy here and offer myself as tribute next time she returns

  • @MusicLover-my6fo
    @MusicLover-my6fo Месяц назад +15

    I honestly wouldn't blame Amazon if they just omitted Anissa's assault from the adaptation. I know for the most part, Amazon's adaptation has been pretty faithful but mentioning, even more showing assault is a *really* slippery slope that not all networks want to take the chance with. I know Amazon has kept The Boys fairly accurate to Garth Ennis' original work, but they've changed some things such as the severity of Starlight's assault and just having Butcher describe Homelander's assault on Rebecca.

    • @benogidan
      @benogidan Месяц назад +14

      I would be interested to see how they deal with it and wouldn't want them to omit it at all, as a guy who is perceived to be strong by his peers but has been taken advantage of by a woman. I would like it to be understood that strong people can go through assault too and need their own sort of healing journey. It needs to be normalized that assault victims can be anyone not just people others perceive as weak

    • @809Mornelle
      @809Mornelle Месяц назад +12

      I hope they show it , because in the real world men and boys being raped is never shown ,even though it happens a lot. Bring more awareness to the issue , I feel like women try to throw the sexual assault thing in our face too much like it doesn’t happen to us frequently. We just can’t speak on it because it makes us look less of a man , or on some occasions we are brainwashed to believe it’s cool.

    • @hylianglitchmobber7570
      @hylianglitchmobber7570 Месяц назад +7

      ​@@809Mornelle agreed. It's an important part of Mark's story and gives people who have been through something similar a relatable perspective

    • @RotmgTrollerFan
      @RotmgTrollerFan Месяц назад

      i dont really see how starlight's assault is any less severe

    • @hylianglitchmobber7570
      @hylianglitchmobber7570 Месяц назад +2

      @@RotmgTrollerFan perhaps you need to reread the comic issue he's referring to. The show definitely tones down the scene quite a bit

  • @Norgar756
    @Norgar756 Месяц назад +2

    I like how you talk about people getting murdered like nothing but have to give a 2min therapy session with one scene of r***

  • @adambarnes49
    @adambarnes49 Месяц назад

    So far this this adaptation of invincible has always either managed to surpass the comic or is at least on par with it in terms of quality (for me anyway which I'm very impressed with)so I'm curious to see how this storyline will be handled in the show.

  • @S-N7
    @S-N7 Месяц назад +1

    Another notable controversial example that wasn't omitted from the classic anime Berserk was the infamous Eclipse arc, as that fateful event was bound to happen and it was really controversial mind you as I'm not alone in this. And to be clear I do not condone the act that occurred but at the same time removing controversial elements in a animated adaptation would defeat the purpose of the story.

  • @BoochoMcfly
    @BoochoMcfly Месяц назад

    3:421 made me turn around and check for hidden cameras🤪

  • @DuendeTortuga
    @DuendeTortuga Месяц назад +1

    It's so far along the way, like a LOT happens before we even get to that point, now, someone theorized that as with other stuff they may have it happen beforetime but, what would be point? the Viltrumites living on Earth and Thragg's plan of having them breed with humans was what triggered what she did, plus there's the fact it's a very sensitive issue, so it's very unlikely.

  • @ikazuchioni
    @ikazuchioni Месяц назад +19

    Spoiler from the comics, and probably for the TV series, I was honestly afraid that Mark's "grape" by Anissa would be shown in episode 7 since the showrunners sometimes show plot points earlier that the comics.

    • @theandrogynousmisogynist
      @theandrogynousmisogynist Месяц назад +5

      Next ep will be Nolan’s jail break.

    • @iamme4494
      @iamme4494 Месяц назад +2

      TBH I’m excited for it ❤

    • @aaronfrantz25
      @aaronfrantz25 Месяц назад +2

      Bruh, have you read the comics? He gotta get his blue suit, conquest, etc.
      Plus they're gonna make Anissa not like how she was in the comics, to fit with modern audiences. I'll be shocked if she steals a kiss lmao

    • @itisnotsosimple
      @itisnotsosimple Месяц назад +1

      It wouldn't make sense for her to do it now. She did it in the comics after being ordered to breed with earthlings. That has to happen first.

  • @CrimsonCruz92
    @CrimsonCruz92 Месяц назад +1

    Anissa reminds me of Supergirl's clone Galatea, with her brutality, superiority complex, and mission focus mindset.

  • @nijelmoreau9223
    @nijelmoreau9223 Месяц назад +1

    Wish I could switch places w mark fr 😭😭😭

  • @ErAyushvarshney
    @ErAyushvarshney Месяц назад

    Minor correction: There are only 50 pure blood vultromites left

  • @xgensean
    @xgensean Месяц назад

    It's sad that Mark experienced that. I could have been different, she could have just left well enough alone.

  • @richardamoahgyimah1231
    @richardamoahgyimah1231 Месяц назад +2

    For a heated character, she’s got a cult following and I'm certain they’re gonna retcon what she did to Mark!

  • @CainMason-uh1ep
    @CainMason-uh1ep Месяц назад

    Cool. Good on HS (Paul) and Kirkman for bringing this issue to conversation.
    Also, imagine how women surviving this trauma feel...
    Especially in Red States in the US. Where the survivors are forced to carry the offspring of people who violate their bodies, sometimes family members, to term. Let alone the thousands of women who desperately want to have children, but they're forced to carry an unviable fetus to term because State laws would send a doctor to jail.
    It was a tough moment in the comic and I'm sure it will be even worse in the show.
    Your takeaway should be that every person has their own right to be secure in and control their own body and that super powered aliens or the US Govt should have zero say regardless of their agenda or the agenda of their supporters.

  • @traviso7810
    @traviso7810 Месяц назад +1

    I kinda feel like they arent going to do it like that in the show. They should, but i feel like they will back off it a little for the show.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Месяц назад

    I am curious on how they are going to do Anissa story especially with her doing the messed up thing she did to invincible.

  • @yamyam263
    @yamyam263 Месяц назад +1

    Paul, did you know that “Anissa” can mean “r-pe” in Hebrew? Feel free to Google it, but אניסה (Anissa) is another form of the word אונס (Onness) that means r-pe.
    I’m not sure if this is more widely known in the community, but I have a knack for puns and I speak Hebrew so I just kind of made the connection.

  • @Lumberjack_king
    @Lumberjack_king Месяц назад +1

    It's funny how amber is considered the most hated character to TV fans

  • @wertoraegj
    @wertoraegj Месяц назад +3

    Personally i hate conquest and thragg. Anissa and Nolan are my two favorite viltrumites

  • @ttendonsonga7587
    @ttendonsonga7587 Месяц назад +8

    I would take this one for the team

    • @joetickle8304
      @joetickle8304 Месяц назад

      even ...................spoilers.....................................................................................................................................if you were married to the women of your dreams (and a stronger baddie) and have a family with a kid on the way....... nah bro try working with women prisoners and tell me her being a bit@# does effect how hot someone is.

    • @joetickle8304
      @joetickle8304 Месяц назад

      but of course its just a cartoon

    • @Keram-io8hv
      @Keram-io8hv Месяц назад

      Truly heroic sacrifice

  • @jacearmor5274
    @jacearmor5274 Месяц назад +12

    As a man who was sa'd by his female childhood best friend, thank you for treating this with the seriousness it deserves.

    • @JC-nt6pq
      @JC-nt6pq Месяц назад +2

      Jesus, grow up

    • @jacearmor5274
      @jacearmor5274 Месяц назад +5

      @@JC-nt6pq How about you grow up first

    • @Anonymous-qh9gq
      @Anonymous-qh9gq Месяц назад

      @@JC-nt6pqWhat the hell is wrong with you?? This man survived a sexual assault and had the courage to open up about it online and you decide to judge him for it? That’s fucked up and it shows that you’re the one who needs to grow up

    • @Gevo-Clover
      @Gevo-Clover Месяц назад

      ​@@JC-nt6pq
      No father figure?

    • @jonathancunningham8739
      @jonathancunningham8739 Месяц назад

      @@JC-nt6pq WTF?

  • @guext2458
    @guext2458 Месяц назад

    *As of right now, I love how she's written in the show…I wonder if they are bold enough to put it in the show. And a part of me wants it in there*

  • @yadieldz23
    @yadieldz23 Месяц назад

    So am I the only one that noticed whenever Nolan is talking about the Viltrumites, it has a flash back to them. One of them looks EXATCLY like Amber ! IDENTICAL ! Look it up!

  • @nickymo
    @nickymo Месяц назад +1

    This and Eve’s abortion stand out as crossing a certain line in the wacky superhero story I’m reading. Wonder it they’ll adapt those two things into the show.

  • @dannydagerous
    @dannydagerous Месяц назад

    thanx

  • @bleez4779
    @bleez4779 Месяц назад

    Who else saw that crater and thought damn things are moving fast

  • @no1butalex
    @no1butalex Месяц назад +1

    Roasting your audience is wild 🤣

  • @TinyRiver97
    @TinyRiver97 Месяц назад +3

    If she hated, why hot?

  • @Caption_alcohol
    @Caption_alcohol Месяц назад +2

    "she kinda bad tho"

  • @Odinson42
    @Odinson42 Месяц назад +1

    Anissa is awesome. Best invincible villain!

  • @happyboi2169
    @happyboi2169 Месяц назад

    I'm just realizing that Alissa never got any real karma or backlash from the other characters in the comics all that happened to her was comic spoilers!!!!
    Pushed forcefully into a wall by Mark.
    Being somewhat crushed by eve.
    And chocked by nolan. I think thats it

  • @marscolumbus2045
    @marscolumbus2045 Месяц назад +1

    Bro that woman is my favorite she got goth dommy mommy vibes

  • @IAMMCLARK
    @IAMMCLARK Месяц назад

    About tha sa tbh bro I think it made tha comic way better not saying it’s a good thing but it brings out tha real life problems like in the boys. I can truly say it does change a man my brother had that happened to him when he was seven like legit in the same way

  • @DeadlySky1
    @DeadlySky1 Месяц назад +1

    I thought for a min she was about to be my most favorite character by killing Amber

  • @invertedname3099
    @invertedname3099 Месяц назад

    Why are their numbers so down? Like why are there only less than 50of them? I feel like I missed it.

  • @TheLumpyShield
    @TheLumpyShield Месяц назад

    Anissa got that "Booty Warrior" energy. I'm all for it!

  • @hunterplaystations8041
    @hunterplaystations8041 Месяц назад

    We're all just waiting for it to happen

  • @tarunpandey8339
    @tarunpandey8339 Месяц назад

    I'm waiting for Damian Darkblood's Returns...