@@sampletext9426 its meant to be the hardest boss in the game if you cant beat him thats a skill issue Literally meant to be one of the last things u do if it doesnt null everything itd not be an smt superboss
@@enzoforgets9456It's a bad game design because they had to do that instead of letting you use everything and make it difficult through other more creative methods, like null X dmg types is such a lazy answer for designing a superboss.
Plus, the hare of Inaba has the inate skill that if a Kunitsu demon is in the active party alongside it, the mp cost of healing and support skills are reduced for all allies. Since Konohana Sakuya is a Kunitsu demon, there should be a good synergy between them in battle.
Wait, where is his demon stock coming from? I feel like some of them joined your party as in-game event demons in SMT IV and SMT IV:A, but I can't confirm that. Maybe they are canonically Nanashi's demon stock, but I can't confirm that, either. Like, the demon stock feels related Demi-fiend's party, like the connection between Ganesha and Girimekhala...?
Well, if ATLUS is gonna play the card that they played back in SMT IV:A, Satan will most likely be a unique kind of special fusion that you gotta do in order to be able to use him in all his glory and awesomeness.
@@thegodslayer8685 oh thank god so not pay boss dlc good it special fusion thanks i am sick and tired dlc just want play smtv demon like cleopatra and mephisto not pay wall
Tried to beat this guy on hard, couldn't do it Drop the difficulty down to normal, still can't do it I don't want to go down to casual but holy fucking shit this boss is impossible, Megido Ark does like 850 damage even through double debilitate + double luster candy
You need kill his minions ASAP, because Megido Ark dmg scalling with numbers of demons in his team. So for example if Satan has 3 demons in team, dmg increase x3, add to this Magatsuhi Skill and buffs = insane amount of dmg. Also Satan stats are very high, when level scalling was removed in SMT V Vengeance stats are now more important, not just level, and this fight shows that. Now imagine Satan in Godborn :D
My demons stats were around 110-120. I had to lower the difficulty down to casual to actually stand a chance. On Hard Satan has like 190 everything except Vitality which is 240 💀
not necessarily, after beating CoV and create a "Cleared" save file, just load your save prior to Lucifer Boss Fight and go to Shinjuku, Mastema quest should be there, I tried it myself today, it worked even tho I never touched CoC a single time
I defeated Satán stacking Omnipotent succession and Omagatoki Charge, when he uses Magatsuhi Plunder on kaiwan he's weak against light so you use Luminoscent Mirage to have an additional turn, return your demons to the stock and the Nahobino can Attack 7 to 8 times and with the Magatsuhi skills that's like a lot of damage but you need a lot of strengthbut with this strategy Satan just fucking explodes XD
Almost forgot, you attack with Parcelene Blur (that one light attack unique of the Nahobino) but I believe you defeated Satán since has been one month of this comment xd
From my experience (which im still around the 2nd are) the new bosses are harder than the original but the original content is a lot easier than before
@@horshorson8198 I would second this comment. You get some new tools e.g. innate abilities, some new demons, new skills, etc. that make some of the original content a bit easier (nothing super game breaking so far though). The new bosses are a good challenge though
Because atlus want to separating between original Hebrew bible depiction of Satan and later Christianity tradition ( Lucifer). Satan originally depicted in Hebrew bible; book of the job not as enemy of God but as prosecutor who work in God divine council.
The whole thing is a rabbithole to go down. But from what I know, Satan was never the name of a singular being in scripture, but rather it is a title meaning adversary or prosecutor. Seems like originally Atlus went the route of having Satan as an actual primal being who's normally the right hand of God, but seems like he now serves the great will.
I’m guessing Casual unless OP stat boosted TF out of his demons. Might even be safety honestly. I had lv 99 demons with stats around 100-120 and I had to lower the difficulty to Casual to stand a chance.
Satan: I am transcendence or whatever
Hare of inaba: 🌝
Satan: I am god's rival. You have no hope of defeating me. What even are you?
Hare of Inaba: I am... UMA.
Very based of the nahobino to fight literally satan with an idol, a rabbit and his jacksona
oh shoot it's SMT IV:A Satan
I just realized Satan was absent in the game prior to this
Beelzebub was Lucifer’s right hand man in nocturne. Do t know the relationship he and Lucifer have
So gald we got a 3D model of this version of satan.
honestly i want this to be the form for it going forward instead of snek booba design
32:36 That's one cute bunny kick.
Then he hops away.
Now we need TURBO GRANNY
WHO WILL WIN
The Father of all Atrocities and Sins on Earth and Hell, and Ruler of the Underworld.
OR
silly bnuuy.
I think the Hare of Inaba is cute.
Lol The devs knew everyone only used Murakomo for endgame Nahobino so they made Satan immune to every element except almighty damage. That's hilarious
But does pierce work?
@@quatrowr1280 ye hence the name pierce
no, that's terrible game design.
@@sampletext9426 its meant to be the hardest boss in the game if you cant beat him thats a skill issue
Literally meant to be one of the last things u do if it doesnt null everything itd not be an smt superboss
@@enzoforgets9456It's a bad game design because they had to do that instead of letting you use everything and make it difficult through other more creative methods, like null X dmg types is such a lazy answer for designing a superboss.
I think konohana Sakuya is better than idun, sakuyas's Sakura is basically a Golden Apple that also restores MP
Cool to know! I didn't have the dlc so I couldn't use her.
counter point...is DLC aka Pay 2 win. So no thanks.
counterpoint, Idun is cuter
Plus, the hare of Inaba has the inate skill that if a Kunitsu demon is in the active party alongside it, the mp cost of healing and support skills are reduced for all allies. Since Konohana Sakuya is a Kunitsu demon, there should be a good synergy between them in battle.
apoc satan in 3d is just so peak
Beaten by a rabbit.
Who would you say is harder satan or Demi fiend, looks like satans a bit easier
I found Demi-Fiend to be a lot harder
@@TheElectroclownfrom the look of it, Satan just seems to be more gimmicky than difficult.
I feel like Demi-fiend’s still way harder.
@@jessielsanchez5079of course, he’s the king of chaos. Lucifer the lord of chaos’s ultimate weapon
@@alfredhinton8792 Satan is not Lucifer tho, more like the rival of god. Even killed god and the entire planet in past games.
Did this fight unlock a new ending? Because he said walk the path of the godborn
Godborne is a new difficulty mode
Don't you unlock lucifer by playing it?
@@eatanotherzio6811 I believe you unlock Lucifur by beating him in Godborne
So this fight unlocks the Godbron NG+ option. It bumps NG+ to level 150.
Wait, where is his demon stock coming from? I feel like some of them joined your party as in-game event demons in SMT IV and SMT IV:A, but I can't confirm that. Maybe they are canonically Nanashi's demon stock, but I can't confirm that, either. Like, the demon stock feels related Demi-fiend's party, like the connection between Ganesha and Girimekhala...?
So is Satan a DLC Superboss, or just a normal superboss?
Normal
And like that, it just went from a 10 to an 11😁
don't tell me dlc boss pay or just normal so can fuse
Well, if ATLUS is gonna play the card that they played back in SMT IV:A, Satan will most likely be a unique kind of special fusion that you gotta do in order to be able to use him in all his glory and awesomeness.
@@thegodslayer8685 oh thank god so not pay boss dlc good it special fusion thanks i am sick and tired dlc just want play smtv demon like cleopatra and mephisto not pay wall
We are so back
idk why but this is hilarious
bnnuy
Tried to beat this guy on hard, couldn't do it
Drop the difficulty down to normal, still can't do it
I don't want to go down to casual but holy fucking shit this boss is impossible, Megido Ark does like 850 damage even through double debilitate + double luster candy
You need kill his minions ASAP, because Megido Ark dmg scalling with numbers of demons in his team. So for example if Satan has 3 demons in team, dmg increase x3, add to this Magatsuhi Skill and buffs = insane amount of dmg. Also Satan stats are very high, when level scalling was removed in SMT V Vengeance stats are now more important, not just level, and this fight shows that. Now imagine Satan in Godborn :D
My demons stats were around 110-120. I had to lower the difficulty down to casual to actually stand a chance.
On Hard Satan has like 190 everything except Vitality which is 240 💀
@@nr2676 Are the stats why im doing so little damage? Moonlight frost with 150 magic stat barely does over 400 damage even when buffed
@@monadoboy1887 yes, because Satan on hard have... 800 vitality xd but there is cheese strategy to beat him in 1 Turn, even on hard
@@nr2676 im gonna have to do a lot of ng+’s for magic balms then lol
How do we get this fight, do we have to get the true neutral ending first?
not necessarily, after beating CoV and create a "Cleared" save file, just load your save prior to Lucifer Boss Fight and go to Shinjuku, Mastema quest should be there, I tried it myself today, it worked even tho I never touched CoC a single time
@@MitsuSV thanks, now it looks like i just have to play cov then, have a good one!
Where can i get omnipotent succestion?
you get it on the path of vengeance by story, near the endgame
Is Satan harder than Shiva?
Yes
whats the strat for satan? i wanna be able to beat him or demi fiend in my first run but i dont think its possible unfortunately
I defeated Satán stacking Omnipotent succession and Omagatoki Charge, when he uses Magatsuhi Plunder on kaiwan he's weak against light so you use Luminoscent Mirage to have an additional turn, return your demons to the stock and the Nahobino can Attack 7 to 8 times and with the Magatsuhi skills that's like a lot of damage but you need a lot of strengthbut with this strategy Satan just fucking explodes XD
Almost forgot, you attack with Parcelene Blur (that one light attack unique of the Nahobino) but I believe you defeated Satán since has been one month of this comment xd
@@Tito_Chuy I clapped him with a similar build, figment slash is fkn crazy
Is vengeance easier than original smt5 ?
Apparently yes but also no cause the vengeance route has some tough battles? I’ve heard conflicting information
@@MILDMONSTER1234 From what I've heard, they increased the damage you do in response to poor level scaling in the original.
@@thisisme-iy9rh I think you just do more damage if underleveled, like, you don't do 5 dmg to Hydra at level 8, instead you do like 17 dmg.
From my experience (which im still around the 2nd are) the new bosses are harder than the original but the original content is a lot easier than before
@@horshorson8198 I would second this comment. You get some new tools e.g. innate abilities, some new demons, new skills, etc. that make some of the original content a bit easier (nothing super game breaking so far though). The new bosses are a good challenge though
Build?
Why is Satan a separate entity from Lucifer?
It was always separate thing in Megami Tensei series since Megami Tensei 2. In SMT Satan is for God side (Law), while Lucifer is in opposite (Chaos).
Because atlus want to separating between original Hebrew bible depiction of Satan and later Christianity tradition ( Lucifer). Satan originally depicted in Hebrew bible; book of the job not as enemy of God but as prosecutor who work in God divine council.
The whole thing is a rabbithole to go down. But from what I know, Satan was never the name of a singular being in scripture, but rather it is a title meaning adversary or prosecutor.
Seems like originally Atlus went the route of having Satan as an actual primal being who's normally the right hand of God, but seems like he now serves the great will.
Was this done on hard or normal mode?
I’m guessing Casual unless OP stat boosted TF out of his demons. Might even be safety honestly. I had lv 99 demons with stats around 100-120 and I had to lower the difficulty to Casual to stand a chance.
@@darklordliam On Safefty you do 30K damage, so this has to be normal or casual.