This is so good, such excellent points about muscle groups and weapon weight variants, I loved it. Thanks so much Skall for adding to this great discussion! I’m so nerding out right now ^_^
Hello Shad, i watched one of your videos and finally understood what the others meant with you "Rambling forever" 0_0 Still the video was very insightful, good video. You know your stuff! I hope you have fun with whatever your doing right now! *Insert thumbs up*
he was completely wrong about the muscles needed to draw a bow, it is not the lats mainly, especially in the movement he demonstrated, that was rhomboids, middle traps and rear delts. don't give props when you are ignorant as fuck on the issue.
I think your voice sounds good as well. It's a little more articulate than usual, I guess, which sometimes is a consequence from having some problem with your voice.
I am entering graduate school to study exercise science, and I have a background in human biomechanical, physiological, and ergonomics research. I love how you tie in body mechanics with the techniques you talk about. Well done, sir! Keep up the good work!
As someone with myasthenia gravis, I find this extremely helpful and considerate. I've always wanted to try HEMA but my medical condition has always dissuaded me a bit. Thank you for this video. C:
The lightest sword I have ever held was a short 19th century pipe-backed Swedish naval saber. It was *insanely* light - it literally felt like a toy. I also got to handle one of those Albion Lichtenauers once and they are really, really well-balanced. Absolutely nothing about them feels heavy.
As a fantasy writer who does her best to make combat and weapons in my book realistic, this video was quite helpful! Watching your videos is really helpful for my research. 😄
R1, R1, R1, R1, R1 all day every day. I keep one as a backup just in case I get invaded. I'm still biased towards Bloodborne, though. Pure Arcane builds are truly broken.
Do you mean they are really good or really bad? I'm going to start my first run through bloodborne today but I can't decide on what build I will go with.
Arcane builds are OP as all hell. Start out with the Cruel Fate background, dump into Vitality until you hit 40, then into Arcane until you hit 99. Get the executioner's gloves from Cainhurst Castle and the Auger of Ebrietas as soon as you can after killing Vicar Amelia. Feel free to wiki what you feel the need to. The early game is hard, but eventually you start taking out bosses in under a minute.
My take on weapon uses in RPGs (specifically D&D 5E) The specific kind of strength to wield a rapier and the specific dexterity required to wield a longsword are your proficiency in those weapons. ALSO! Dexterity is just a different kind of fitness than strength. Dexterity is for precision and specific strikes, strength is for hurting people real bad no matter where you hit. Side note: Dexterity weapons in D&D 5E can be used with strength! "finesse" weapons allow for the choice of strength or dexterity in your fighting style.
Spear all the way! Easy to use, wood over metal mass, and long range to compensate shorter limbs. If were talking about purely blades, a two handed longsword (a "light" one) would be way more manouverable and confortable than a single handed one.
I like your voice that way. Not that your normal talking is somehow annoying or anything, it's just very refreshing to hear this :D I always find it quite funny to be in this condition normally for a day or so... assuming this comes from a cold or something in your case.
I really like how you put notes in your videos now. Simple, non-intrusive and "classy". Pretty cool! And that voice sounds cool as well! :D Although of course, I do hope you are ok. Thanks for the awesome videos!!
Thanks for making this video Skall. I am not the strongest person out there and I figure the lighter the weapon is the less force I need to make it move fast, making me seem stronger and cutting tests easier. I thought my only option was to use a short sword and it's nice to know I have some other options. Again thank you for the help and for making so many wonderful videos.
skall, im happy to see you are able to keep up with youtube's new algorithm and uploaded 4 videos a week for the last month and all that good quality content. also, your voice sound better like that
correction on the bow part: There are different ways to use a bow, you can use your arm muscles or the back ones. It depends on your anatomy and your trainer which one you will use.
I love the idea that you've brought up the Estoc. Two handed thrusting swords should be mentioned more! :D Axes also seem to be a good fit for someone with less raw strength because swings feel more powered by momentum then muscle.
Skele Stone anything without a pommel cannot be used to finish him rightly. only to finish him leftly. this means talking him to death and isthus not swordsmanship.
I think smaller early swords with a small shield are a good option, sword and buckler works well too with the right training. I was also surprised that the smallsword was not mentioned, even better a spadroon which was designed to be light and nimble like the smallsword yet able to hold its own against other larger weapons.
I was impressed by the knowledge you demonstrated in this video of strength training and different types of strength, a lot of people who focus on martial arts primarily or completely, often undermine or misunderstand basic principles about real strength and its applications (i.e. Matt Easton from Scholagladiatoria often referring to Bodybuilders as an absolute measure of strength), while powerlifters, Olympic lifters and ofc "Strongmen" would make IMO far better examples of the highest strength standards. And ofc you also have the uninformed people who attribute far too much importance to strength, specially when it comes to armed combat. well done sir
At around the 5:30 mark while you were talking about weapons for different people namely shorter blades on a shorter person there is already a disadvantage in being short with less reach and basically doubling down on that weakness. I could see a shorter weapon being used by a shorter/smaller stature person being in advantage in that they can generally get lower and can stay out of reach .
I'd say that depends, and deserves a better explaination than I can give; I am not an expert but some firearms can be heavy and absorbing recoil from some also needs strength, so you can discount most rifles, heavy revolvers, shotguns etc. Basically that leaves you with SMGs and Semi-automatic pistols.
Padraic Smith I would say that an assault rifle is perfectly manageable for a weaker person as well, especially if with a fore grip. 5.56mm NATO doesn't have terrible recoil.
As I said, I am not an expert, but only somewhat familiar, as being a weaker person I've had difficulty holding a rifle steady whilst stood upright. The topic probably deserves it's own video on the matter. As for using weapons that were used alongside swords and the like, I would have thought they'd be even heavier, some muskets were very long and had large ammunition that would need a thick barrel. Furthermore, using such weapons, a soldier would often have to use it as a club when enemies approached, which would most definitely require strength.
It is so good to see videos about people discussing a topic and having fun while doing it in this endless sea of flamewars between people in echo chambers on RUclips.
sorry about voice but if it's any consolation my GOD u sound like a boss haha (I mean ur normal voice with ur accent is also cool don't get me wrong haha) on the topic of speaking, man I love ur channel, u speak so eloquently, always bring to great points, and never put others down.
Ok, here is a follow-up, opposite question, one that I see seldom asked and never answered: In an otherwise perfectly realistic scenario, 1-What would be the ideal weapon and more generally fighting technique (including possibly shield and armour) that is the best suited for a warrior with MASSIVE physical strength? Say "Nathan Jones or Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson" level and type of strength? 2-Pushing things a bit further, what about warriors with a superhuman level of strength? How can an increase in physical strength can benefit combat prowess in a way other skills can't? Because, obviously, it doesn't require an inhuman force to deal a deadly or incapacitating blow with a regular medieval weapon. So one could imagine that, because "overkilling" an opponent is pointless, dealing stronger strikes or handling a heavier weapon would not be much of an advantage. So how could an unusually physically strong warrior make the best use of it?
Not an expert by any means. But either some bladed polearm like a Glaive or Naginata for that nearly inhuman level. And if you are superhuman, it can't hurt to have something a bit unwieldy like a large poleaxe or something like a big cleaver. Basically if you have the strength, it can't hurt to use something that a normal human could not. (Not counting speed.)
Depends on what you're fighting, but honestly? Bows benefit greatly from strength. If you can pull something on the order of a 1200 pound draw, your bow is hitting like a heavy crossbow, without the need to span it with a windlass. If you must have a melee weapon? I'd go for something like an igorot axe or a pick. If your enhanced strength lets you wield a top-heavy weapon with greater ease, you're the designated anti-armor. You're also a holy terror in a grapple, which is the other way knights die.
a quick point (ba dun tss) about the rapier requiring less strength to use, as a fighter myself I can tell you swinging a sword of any type is always more of a strain than thrusting, since a rapier is trust centered, it is alot easier to use in many cases, however things it does require are leg strength, speed and alot of stamina (not certain if skall talked about it I'm typing this while the video loads)
Know this was a year ago, but that’s because it literally is. Those elven swords were inspired by this Filipino sword. They had all kinds of professionals come in and demonstrate different sword types and their techniques, and it was a Filipino woman who brought this type of sword in and inspired them the most for the elves.
Notification squad HYPE! Also, Skall, which historical survival-based weapon do you think would be best? I'm talking multi-use that you can use to do other things than just battle other huamns with, maybe hunt, maybe craft with (Such as knives.) or skin (Knives), or maybe battleaxes for the potential to chop wood, or warhammers for some quirky use I haven't thought of?
It occurs to me as I'm sitting here watching a bunch of your vids, I would love to see you do a discussion of cane swords (canes with swords concealed within the shaft of the cane). I find them fascinating. Cheers!
Given how quickly videos like these end up with dislikes I suspect that there are literally haters subscribed to Skall only so they that get his notifications and dislike his videos immediately...or You Tube has a few autodislikes programed in now. Great video again btw
technically speaking you're not trying to cut through your opponent's armor you're trying to stab under the plates were the armor isn't there it's funny how many people don't understand this concept👏.
Meister Proper same principal for leather armor why try to cut through tempered leather armor when you can get through the rib cage by stabbing someone in the armpit the throat and the hands are also usually good points provided they are not protected in some way.
there were historical swords with rounded tips, they were used as specialized executioner's swords. Quite a few of these survived because they were still ins use until ~1800 (in europe) upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/56/Ep%C3%A9e_de_justice_IMG_3471.jpg/800px-Ep%C3%A9e_de_justice_IMG_3471.jpg
One minor thought: You've mentioned here and in a couple of other places that small swords aren't the best choice for small people because it compounds the lack of reach. What I was wondering was whether that would really matter much if you try to get inside your opponent's reach. If you do that, you can take advantage of your small size to compound the awkwardness of a large opponent with a larger weapon, while also nullifying your reach disadvantage and even turning it into a strength.
practicing with weapons similar to the style of a rapier I can attest to that, even the "lighter" generally perceived "faster" weapons will start to feel VERY heavy the more you fence with them.
Something I was curious about. In GoT you see one of the White Walkers using an odd weapon to fight Jon Snow. It's basically a sword with an extremely long handle from the look of it. So what are the advantages/disadvantages of this sort of weapon design? Best images I could find of it. s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c3/a2/6f/c3a26fe101436d86f432d0f254b26d66.jpg s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/89/23/d7/8923d7202eae1e19be9db86c3fa2beff.jpg
Dairthe Something little similar would be the Japanese Nagamaki, it's a compromise between a Naginata and a Nodachi/Katana. I think there is a video around, can't exactly remember by whom, you might want to check out SnapJelly, KnightSquire or Shadiversity ;-)
Radyachman Radyan I'm not really sure that balance is an advantage or a disadvantage. It's just going to affect whether the weapon is better at stabs or cuts, and I'd have thought that this sort of weapon could handle either. Besides which you could adjust the weight of the weapon with things such as pommels and fullers, so you should be able to get a blade shaped like this balanced properly I'd have thought. I don't really know much about that sort of thing though so I might be wrong.
In D&D 3.5, bows had a minimum strength necessary to use it, or you'd have a penalty in damage and precision, if I'm not mistaken. Crossbows didn't, so if you wanted a long rage weapon and didn't have a strength bonus you'd use a crossbow, even if it ment loosing a quick action every time you shot.
Great and informative video as always! As someone who in fact does a lot of strength training (Strongman-like training) it would be really interesting if you'd make a video that shows the other side: historical weapons that would benefit the most of physical strength! Even if I don't really think you'll ever notice this comment,I really hope so and that it might inspire you to make such a video! Would be really curious about that topic! :) Keep on being awesome! All the best greetings from Germany!
In my opinion better than a spear or an axe would be a polearm. Chinese variants of the weapon like a Ji, Qinglong or the Fangtian(depending on its weight) are very well suited for the task, offer around the same range as a spear albeit with more versatility. The Naginata, the Ahlspiess or the War Scythe would also be effective to a weaker person on a lesser extent than the before mentioned Chinese polearm variants. I also feel like the Khopesh and Cinquedea would be arguably good, and better than a long sword or a rapier excluding the range.
The parts of your body that need to be strong for mos tasks are legs, core and back. Forearms also help a in a large variety of ways, but your pecs, biceps and triceps, the ones that most people associate with visually strength, are linear in what they do, so you generally don't need a lot of muscle there.
Depends. Weak base is just weak, but stronger forearms means stronger hands. Strong hands alone let you do usefully odd things otherwise impossible. There's a difference between mirror muscle exercise and useful upper body strength. Something like Bruch curls, Blakely presses, and maybe PJR pullovers for example: Those curls give you explosive biceps for hurling/throwing, grappling, and prying your way around an opponent's weapon in melee. Technically, uppercuts too. Those presses allow your elbows to take heavy pressure in the extremity of flexion, so you can shove/drive/rake much better in a tight clinch, whether it's limbs or weapons. Those pullovers kinda connect the "jerk" of your pull-up strength to the "drag" of your row strength, which can be handy in grappling across the betweens, if you know what I mean. None of those will particularly make you "big" in any "pretty" way, so most gym goers won't ever do them, but the effects are significant, relative to bodybuilding versions or even powerlifting "cheat" versions. As a longtime odd lifter, I mostly only noticed when I stopped doing them that I couldn't function near the same, in a sudden clinch or general life. Grip is fucking huge.
Derek S You are probably thinking of a sword more like an epee. Here is a picture of Matt Easton comparing an epee to a more usable sword: i.ytimg.com/vi/f7zv2gRpgAc/maxresdefault.jpg
Great discussion. One point of disagreement I have is in your comments around shorter people. Different individuals, with differing martial 'virtues' (for lack of a better term), will approach combat in varying ways. For example, in traditional White Crane gung fu, there are actually two sub-divisions of style: One is the gorilla (which is intended for taller, physically stronger people), and one is the crane (meant for smaller, physically lighter, often faster, and yet 'weaker' individuals). Short individuals may lack reach and brute strength, but if they know what they are about, they know how to exploit the advantages they do have, which are mainly in in-fighting scenarios. A smart, shorter individual, will seek to close gaps quickly, tangle the gawky arms of the larger person, and undo them from the inside. That's something that a sword like the gladius is perfect for.
If you want to build up strength but don't want to spend too much money until you can find your ideal sword weight and length, a really great option is to buy yourself a series of ax-handles. They come in various lengths and you can even buy them very cheap if you have a second-hand tool store near you. You can start with the thinnest one you can find or even cut down a broom/shovel handle to the size you want and work your way towards a heavier one, such as one for a large sledgehammer. You can get your strength up relatively quickly this way without too much investment. I'd suggest you do this before deciding which $200+ sword you want to buy. Another option are the Indian maceball weights that some crossfits use, which are a little more spendy in the $20-$80 range (depending on weight) but they are multi-use, can be used two handed, and you can find them at Amazon.com as well as other places online.
Spears have had butt-caps, sometimes pointed ones. Various Asian pole-arms have counterweights, so there might be a blade or fork at one end and the equivalent of a mace-head at the other. For those who are small and quick, rapiers, other cut-and-thrust swords, pole-arms, and slings are good choices for fighting.
Yes for the axe. This was one of the primary weapons in tales of amazons, as well as finding them in Eurasian nomad burial mounds for women. Another aspect to remember is that their was also poison/venom use. The Ancient Greek word for arrow, is where we got our modern term toxin. An arrow coated in steppe viper venom, doesn't need much penetration to be effective.
I thought the sling or staff sling would be the best weapons for people with low strength. They may require a lot of practice to be remotely effective but the actual mechanical motion of it is very light on the muscles and the weight of the weapon/ammo is practically negligible. And of course, if you load the sling's cradle up with pommels you have a medieval Fat Man from Fallout!
0:59 - Skallagrim, for real.. All the bwos require both Strength and Dexterity. Sure, most of the boys have the DEX requirement being the highest of the two, but the strength requirement is still ideal. And not to mention the Compound Short Bow and the Compound Long Bow in Demon's Souls require alot of Strength in order to even USE. Which makes sense when you notice it has an IRON bowstring. Not to mention in DS1 the Composite Bow requires 11 Strength and 12 Dexterity. They're damn close to even, probably the closest you'd get. In Dark Souls 3, you have teh Dragonrider Bow, which has 19 Strenth and 15 DEX requirement. And need I also mention the Dragonslayer Greatbow is a perfect example of that not all bows are DEX weapons. Seriously, not a single Bow requires JUST Dex. And it's not even the case that 'Bows focus on Dex and Crossbows on Strength'. Most Bows have a somewhat high Dex requirement with a Strength requirement that is AT LEAST 60-80% behind the amount needed for the DEX requirement. Whereas, the Crossbows require a somewhat high amount of Strength, as well as a Dex requirement that's also close by to the amount needed for the Strength requirement. And if you're making the argument that Crossbrows require more Dexterity than Bows, then that's insane. They both need just as much Dexterity as the other. It is simply that Dark Souls made those requirements the way they are to make them have SOME kind of difference. And in regards to the whole video.. really? No Falchion? :\ The Gladius has always been a boring sword. It works, yeah, but there's alot better weapons out there than that.
I see your points about limiting variables in the question of strength and sword use. In my opinion, as someone who has been in combat larps for 27 years, my guideline would be: can you fight with it for an hour or 3 and swing it with sufficient force and skill? Because sometimes battles will last that long and I need a weapon that won't drain me of my energy and keep my combat effectiveness. Cardio and muscle endurance will be the determining factors here. We also need to limit the applications or areas of use. Is this a dual or a full scale battle? Different load outs for both. Personally I'd get a rapier if I had to choose a sword, but I would carry a light 7-9 foot spear instead if given a choice. Much easier to wield and much more effective in a veriety of applications. I would have more range then a sword and it would use more of my body to use them a sword. I know body mechanics are essential here but a sword will drain your arms endurance more then a spear will. Just my thoughts. Great video and thanks for your input :)
This is so good, such excellent points about muscle groups and weapon weight variants, I loved it. Thanks so much Skall for adding to this great discussion! I’m so nerding out right now ^_^
Hello Shad, i watched one of your videos and finally understood what the others meant with you "Rambling forever" 0_0
Still the video was very insightful, good video. You know your stuff! I hope you have fun with whatever your doing right now! *Insert thumbs up*
he was completely wrong about the muscles needed to draw a bow, it is not the lats mainly, especially in the movement he demonstrated, that was rhomboids, middle traps and rear delts. don't give props when you are ignorant as fuck on the issue.
@@louiscyfer6944 my dude, calm yourself
louis cyfer lol roid rage much buddy?? lats are still useful for drawing a bow you aggressive man child
Why can I hear this text?
I'm not masturbating Mom, I'm building strength for rapier fencing!!!
Nathan Cosgrove I am not masturbating son, I'm building strength for bow drawing.
But you're only doing short strokes?
@@nomadpi1 ouch
Your voice actually sounds really cool
Kamil Szadkowski Yeah I agree.
It sounds different for sure. It's not like he sounds like himself, but slightly sick. He does sound different.
I didn't notice anything wrong with your voice
I think your voice sounds good as well. It's a little more articulate than usual, I guess, which sometimes is a consequence from having some problem with your voice.
Kamil Szadkowski Exactly. Especially when it hits the lower notes.
But you need strength to throw a pommel.
2 true bro
with great strength you can throw a massive Pommel
Brajany but you can't end him rightly if he kicks your shield into your face hard enough to rip your face open. and that requires a lot of strength
No, you need only Rightioness
DualityJack +12 Charisma, +12 Crit, +14 Endurance
Man, that Lockwood Longsword is so beautiful, I love how it looks so much.
I am entering graduate school to study exercise science, and I have a background in human biomechanical, physiological, and ergonomics research. I love how you tie in body mechanics with the techniques you talk about. Well done, sir! Keep up the good work!
As someone with myasthenia gravis, I find this extremely helpful and considerate. I've always wanted to try HEMA but my medical condition has always dissuaded me a bit. Thank you for this video. C:
Dude your voice sounds pretty deep...wisper in my ear.
something like suprice?
Janik Malkovich yes
you are a naughty naughty boy
and you need to get punished
Janik Malkovich harder daddy!
Armored Gamer so someone watch to meny team4star videos
The lightest sword I have ever held was a short 19th century pipe-backed Swedish naval saber. It was *insanely* light - it literally felt like a toy.
I also got to handle one of those Albion Lichtenauers once and they are really, really well-balanced. Absolutely nothing about them feels heavy.
As a fantasy writer who does her best to make combat and weapons in my book realistic, this video was quite helpful! Watching your videos is really helpful for my research. 😄
The Estoc of course. All the casuals use them.
Real men don't take their DEX beyond 10. But don't tell anyone you leveled that up.
R1, R1, R1, R1, R1 all day every day. I keep one as a backup just in case I get invaded.
I'm still biased towards Bloodborne, though. Pure Arcane builds are truly broken.
Do you mean they are really good or really bad? I'm going to start my first run through bloodborne today but I can't decide on what build I will go with.
Arcane builds are OP as all hell. Start out with the Cruel Fate background, dump into Vitality until you hit 40, then into Arcane until you hit 99. Get the executioner's gloves from Cainhurst Castle and the Auger of Ebrietas as soon as you can after killing Vicar Amelia. Feel free to wiki what you feel the need to.
The early game is hard, but eventually you start taking out bosses in under a minute.
Sixteen fucking strength.
932vlad just get 15 arcane so you can use the hunter bone
My take on weapon uses in RPGs (specifically D&D 5E)
The specific kind of strength to wield a rapier and the specific dexterity required to wield a longsword are your proficiency in those weapons.
ALSO! Dexterity is just a different kind of fitness than strength. Dexterity is for precision and specific strikes, strength is for hurting people real bad no matter where you hit.
Side note: Dexterity weapons in D&D 5E can be used with strength! "finesse" weapons allow for the choice of strength or dexterity in your fighting style.
obviously the best answer is to go for a quality build
Q U A L I T Y
16 STR 10 DEX is all you need. Dump the rest into VIT and END, slap some MLG gear on and git gud.
MLG gear includes MLGS, hahaha!
I hadn't though of that. And I forgot the most important part of the build too, you can't be a giant dad without "Well, what it it?"
Bass canon?
Skall, my son, you've become a man.
lol
spøøky mike søcks I mean, it's idubbbz holding a crossbow.
you must now choose. will your use modern weapons that can kill from far away .. or use outdated medieval weapons ?
but
but
but
a modern firearm cant cut through rice paper
and a obsolete sword can
that means the AXE is mightyer than the NUKE
Using high cholesterol with high sugar method adds body to a pommel to richly choke down said persons fingering the axe or belly buttoning the nuke.
Spear all the way! Easy to use, wood over metal mass, and long range to compensate shorter limbs.
If were talking about purely blades, a two handed longsword (a "light" one) would be way more manouverable and confortable than a single handed one.
I like your voice that way. Not that your normal talking is somehow annoying or anything, it's just very refreshing to hear this :D I always find it quite funny to be in this condition normally for a day or so... assuming this comes from a cold or something in your case.
Estoc, Bestoc.
Aestoc comes after Bestoc.
Autism is Uncontrollable R1 your life...life cannot dodge roll that... win life
Gross
I really like how you put notes in your videos now. Simple, non-intrusive and "classy". Pretty cool!
And that voice sounds cool as well! :D Although of course, I do hope you are ok.
Thanks for the awesome videos!!
7:51 I just have to say, that this is the most beatiful sword I've ever seen...
Same waht is ut ?
Thanks for making this video Skall. I am not the strongest person out there and I figure the lighter the weapon is the less force I need to make it move fast, making me seem stronger and cutting tests easier. I thought my only option was to use a short sword and it's nice to know I have some other options. Again thank you for the help and for making so many wonderful videos.
Things I learned from Skallagrim today. My favorite melee weapon, the rapier, is pretty metal.
Nice.
I'm gunna go ahead and say Shad is not Shad from Shadbase.
But Shadbase also covers a wide variety of thrusting weapons
TheMorbidHobo no, it Shad from Shadiversity
TheMorbidHobo xD
I wasn't the only one, i feel better about myself now
I'd say that's a fair bet, yeah.
That "new" voice made me question my sexuality.
it is weird indeed
I stopped questioning mine after having listened to Harmful Opinions and Undoomed.
same
Sheol_IK if its still attack helicopter you're good
I dunno. Have you seen those clips of the Saturn 5 taking off? Every time I watch them, I get my asparagus staging all screwed up. Rawr.
skall, im happy to see you are able to keep up with youtube's new algorithm and uploaded 4 videos a week for the last month and all that good quality content. also, your voice sound better like that
Thanks. :)
Skallagrim, can you please do a tutorial on how to succesfully give someone a papercut?
How to align the edge of the paper properly?
I tune in 30 minutes after upload, and already 2,500 views? Skall, you have an awesome community! Congrats, sir
correction on the bow part: There are different ways to use a bow, you can use your arm muscles or the back ones. It depends on your anatomy and your trainer which one you will use.
I love the idea that you've brought up the Estoc. Two handed thrusting swords should be mentioned more! :D Axes also seem to be a good fit for someone with less raw strength because swings feel more powered by momentum then muscle.
The pommel seems like a good choice if your enemy is at close range.
Silver Chariot Pommel is superior in all ranges
Silver Chariot - Dane axe and pommel is the ultimate combo
the pommel is always the best choice if you want to end him rightly.
That depends, does YOUR sword have a pommel?
Skele Stone anything without a pommel cannot be used to finish him rightly. only to finish him leftly. this means talking him to death and isthus not swordsmanship.
I think smaller early swords with a small shield are a good option, sword and buckler works well too with the right training. I was also surprised that the smallsword was not mentioned, even better a spadroon which was designed to be light and nimble like the smallsword yet able to hold its own against other larger weapons.
I did a bit of fencing with a rapier when i was young, legs muscle was damn important that was almost the only muscle work we did.
This is actually the best I've ever heard your voice. Usually you have this weird accent but not here.
those Filipino swords are fucking beautiful
I was impressed by the knowledge you demonstrated in this video of strength training and different types of strength, a lot of people who focus on martial arts primarily or completely, often undermine or misunderstand basic principles about real strength and its applications (i.e. Matt Easton from Scholagladiatoria often referring to Bodybuilders as an absolute measure of strength), while powerlifters, Olympic lifters and ofc "Strongmen" would make IMO far better examples of the highest strength standards.
And ofc you also have the uninformed people who attribute far too much importance to strength, specially when it comes to armed combat.
well done sir
5:53 INCREDIBILIS!!!
ETIAM!!!
I guess I'll contribute with a somewhat late _DUNMAHGLASS!_
At around the 5:30 mark while you were talking about weapons for different people namely shorter blades on a shorter person there is already a disadvantage in being short with less reach and basically doubling down on that weakness. I could see a shorter weapon being used by a shorter/smaller stature person being in advantage in that they can generally get lower and can stay out of reach .
Come on, We all know the right answer is firearm.
I'd say that depends, and deserves a better explaination than I can give; I am not an expert but some firearms can be heavy and absorbing recoil from some also needs strength, so you can discount most rifles, heavy revolvers, shotguns etc. Basically that leaves you with SMGs and Semi-automatic pistols.
Padraic Smith I would say that an assault rifle is perfectly manageable for a weaker person as well, especially if with a fore grip. 5.56mm NATO doesn't have terrible recoil.
Well, I was talking about the ones coexist with cold weapon back in the day...
T2266 Pommels are even lighter, and much deadlier. You just need good aim.
As I said, I am not an expert, but only somewhat familiar, as being a weaker person I've had difficulty holding a rifle steady whilst stood upright. The topic probably deserves it's own video on the matter. As for using weapons that were used alongside swords and the like, I would have thought they'd be even heavier, some muskets were very long and had large ammunition that would need a thick barrel. Furthermore, using such weapons, a soldier would often have to use it as a club when enemies approached, which would most definitely require strength.
It is so good to see videos about people discussing a topic and having fun while doing it in this endless sea of flamewars between people in echo chambers on RUclips.
HOLY SHIT. you saying "It's pretty metal" with that voice XXXDD
sorry about voice but if it's any consolation my GOD u sound like a boss haha (I mean ur normal voice with ur accent is also cool don't get me wrong haha)
on the topic of speaking, man I love ur channel, u speak so eloquently, always bring to great points, and never put others down.
Ok, here is a follow-up, opposite question, one that I see seldom asked and never answered:
In an otherwise perfectly realistic scenario,
1-What would be the ideal weapon and more generally fighting technique (including possibly shield and armour) that is the best suited for a warrior with MASSIVE physical strength? Say "Nathan Jones or Hafþór Júlíus Björnsson" level and type of strength?
2-Pushing things a bit further, what about warriors with a superhuman level of strength? How can an increase in physical strength can benefit combat prowess in a way other skills can't?
Because, obviously, it doesn't require an inhuman force to deal a deadly or incapacitating blow with a regular medieval weapon. So one could imagine that, because "overkilling" an opponent is pointless, dealing stronger strikes or handling a heavier weapon would not be much of an advantage. So how could an unusually physically strong warrior make the best use of it?
Not an expert by any means. But either some bladed polearm like a Glaive or Naginata for that nearly inhuman level. And if you are superhuman, it can't hurt to have something a bit unwieldy like a large poleaxe or something like a big cleaver. Basically if you have the strength, it can't hurt to use something that a normal human could not. (Not counting speed.)
Depends on what you're fighting, but honestly? Bows benefit greatly from strength. If you can pull something on the order of a 1200 pound draw, your bow is hitting like a heavy crossbow, without the need to span it with a windlass.
If you must have a melee weapon? I'd go for something like an igorot axe or a pick. If your enhanced strength lets you wield a top-heavy weapon with greater ease, you're the designated anti-armor. You're also a holy terror in a grapple, which is the other way knights die.
love your videos. always interseting and easy to understand
You could probably do movie voice-overs with that new voice. xD
a quick point (ba dun tss) about the rapier requiring less strength to use, as a fighter myself I can tell you swinging a sword of any type is always more of a strain than thrusting, since a rapier is trust centered, it is alot easier to use in many cases, however things it does require are leg strength, speed and alot of stamina (not certain if skall talked about it I'm typing this while the video loads)
9:48 This filipino sword actually looks a lot like the elvish swords from lotr
And Sting is obviously a xiphos.
Know this was a year ago, but that’s because it literally is. Those elven swords were inspired by this Filipino sword. They had all kinds of professionals come in and demonstrate different sword types and their techniques, and it was a Filipino woman who brought this type of sword in and inspired them the most for the elves.
Notification squad HYPE!
Also, Skall, which historical survival-based weapon do you think would be best? I'm talking multi-use that you can use to do other things than just battle other huamns with, maybe hunt, maybe craft with (Such as knives.) or skin (Knives), or maybe battleaxes for the potential to chop wood, or warhammers for some quirky use I haven't thought of?
Skall-senpai you sound like a totally different person.
It occurs to me as I'm sitting here watching a bunch of your vids, I would love to see you do a discussion of cane swords (canes with swords concealed within the shaft of the cane). I find them fascinating. Cheers!
Can you do a video for the opposite? Someone who is naturally strong but has a harder time building up endurance?
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"That makes the point very easily maneuverable and that's exactly the point" - The Punllagrim
I heard that thelegend27 can weld every sword ever made with his big toe
The Divide Don't you mean a single quark of his body?
Damn is this meme already 4 years old
Same thought here about the meme being that old already
Given how quickly videos like these end up with dislikes I suspect that there are literally haters subscribed to Skall only so they that get his notifications and dislike his videos immediately...or You Tube has a few autodislikes programed in now. Great video again btw
technically speaking you're not trying to cut through your opponent's armor you're trying to stab under the plates were the armor isn't there it's funny how many people don't understand this concept👏.
if your opponent has plate armor...
Meister Proper same principal for leather armor why try to cut through tempered leather armor when you can get through the rib cage by stabbing someone in the armpit the throat and the hands are also usually good points provided they are not protected in some way.
leather armor is not a thing
Georgica Ionica so the gambeson doesn't exist apparently also called leather armor for those not knowledgeable on the subject
The narcissistic cannibal Where have you heard of a grandson called leather armour? Gambesons are usually made out of many linen sheets...
Best youtube community, sword community.
You are all awesome.
Hi love your Chanel can you talk about British brass knuckles as I'm unsure every website says different
This is an old video but I recently got into your channel and I love it, great job. I've watch I think over 50 of your videos already lol.
Can someone tell me why some swords have a rounded tip? Why not have a pointy tip?
Christopher Solares They were primarily used for cutting, and a wider overall profile meant more force behind those cuts.
Christopher Solares
edit (Some of) those with a rounded tip are made for sparring.
Practice swords
there were historical swords with rounded tips, they were used as specialized executioner's swords. Quite a few of these survived because they were still ins use until ~1800 (in europe)
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that doesnt explain the katzbalger however
or woodcuts of german soldiers with longswords/ 2 handed swords with rounded tips
Off topic: I think in this video you showed the most awesome swords from your collection! Really amazing!!
Oooh, jazz voice Skalla :D
Your voice is so much better now. Please stay like this.
I thought the historical weapon that required the least amount of strength was gonna be "an acute intellect" or something stupid
An acute intellect is a good bonus for any weapon.
WOOAAAH this "rough" voice is.... awesome. it actually sounds smoother than your normal voice.
16 strength
10 dex
40 int
40 faith
+10 chaos zweihander
Will win any fight
5:50
very satisfying _swoosh_ sound swinging that Gladius
Honestly the old spear once again kind of has to be mentioned, most weigh about 3-5 lbs so not much more than a sword and give you the reach advantage
One minor thought: You've mentioned here and in a couple of other places that small swords aren't the best choice for small people because it compounds the lack of reach. What I was wondering was whether that would really matter much if you try to get inside your opponent's reach. If you do that, you can take advantage of your small size to compound the awkwardness of a large opponent with a larger weapon, while also nullifying your reach disadvantage and even turning it into a strength.
>let me talk about the rapier
Wut r u? Casul?
Wt rings u got bithc?
Were you two having a stroke when you were typing, or is that an acute case of dyslexia?
@@JanetStarChild It's a Dark Souls meme
Your video has taught me a lot and I love your channel I'm already subscribed.
That's the "POINT" of a rapier 😁
Puns lol.
practicing with weapons similar to the style of a rapier I can attest to that, even the "lighter" generally perceived "faster" weapons will start to feel VERY heavy the more you fence with them.
Something I was curious about.
In GoT you see one of the White Walkers using an odd weapon to fight Jon Snow. It's basically a sword with an extremely long handle from the look of it.
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of this sort of weapon design?
Best images I could find of it.
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Dairthe Something little similar would be the Japanese Nagamaki, it's a compromise between a Naginata and a Nodachi/Katana.
I think there is a video around, can't exactly remember by whom, you might want to check out SnapJelly, KnightSquire or Shadiversity ;-)
Radyachman Radyan
I'm not really sure that balance is an advantage or a disadvantage. It's just going to affect whether the weapon is better at stabs or cuts, and I'd have thought that this sort of weapon could handle either. Besides which you could adjust the weight of the weapon with things such as pommels and fullers, so you should be able to get a blade shaped like this balanced properly I'd have thought.
I don't really know much about that sort of thing though so I might be wrong.
GandogarFS
Thanks, I'll go start looking. :D
It looks to be similar to a Svärdstav, seems reasonable
It looks to be similar to a Svärdstav, seems reasonable
In D&D 3.5, bows had a minimum strength necessary to use it, or you'd have a penalty in damage and precision, if I'm not mistaken.
Crossbows didn't, so if you wanted a long rage weapon and didn't have a strength bonus you'd use a crossbow, even if it ment loosing a quick action every time you shot.
Sounds to me like they had it right in 3.5, now I wonder how they went from croissant to biscuit.
@@LurkerDaBerzerker, to be fair, they had lots of other problems too.
And, what about weapons that require great strenght?
Zweihander, pike and halberd
Great and informative video as always!
As someone who in fact does a lot of strength training (Strongman-like training) it would be really interesting if you'd make a video that shows the other side: historical weapons that would benefit the most of physical strength!
Even if I don't really think you'll ever notice this comment,I really hope so and that it might inspire you to make such a video!
Would be really curious about that topic! :)
Keep on being awesome!
All the best greetings from Germany!
I once discussed the matter with my friends and the general agreement is 9mm pistol ;)
Another great subject, brother!
>not getting swole to one hand a zweihander
Also, someone please disparage me for trying to greentext on fucking youtube.
consider yourself reprimanded
Nevets t. Smith is it a chaos infused zweihander?
>getting swole to two-hand a dreihander
In my opinion better than a spear or an axe would be a polearm. Chinese variants of the weapon like a Ji, Qinglong or the Fangtian(depending on its weight) are very well suited for the task, offer around the same range as a spear albeit with more versatility. The Naginata, the Ahlspiess or the War Scythe would also be effective to a weaker person on a lesser extent than the before mentioned Chinese polearm variants. I also feel like the Khopesh and Cinquedea would be arguably good, and better than a long sword or a rapier excluding the range.
A lot of people greatly over estimate how much muscle mass in arms helps.
The parts of your body that need to be strong for mos tasks are legs, core and back. Forearms also help a in a large variety of ways, but your pecs, biceps and triceps, the ones that most people associate with visually strength, are linear in what they do, so you generally don't need a lot of muscle there.
Depends. Weak base is just weak, but stronger forearms means stronger hands. Strong hands alone let you do usefully odd things otherwise impossible. There's a difference between mirror muscle exercise and useful upper body strength. Something like Bruch curls, Blakely presses, and maybe PJR pullovers for example: Those curls give you explosive biceps for hurling/throwing, grappling, and prying your way around an opponent's weapon in melee. Technically, uppercuts too. Those presses allow your elbows to take heavy pressure in the extremity of flexion, so you can shove/drive/rake much better in a tight clinch, whether it's limbs or weapons. Those pullovers kinda connect the "jerk" of your pull-up strength to the "drag" of your row strength, which can be handy in grappling across the betweens, if you know what I mean. None of those will particularly make you "big" in any "pretty" way, so most gym goers won't ever do them, but the effects are significant, relative to bodybuilding versions or even powerlifting "cheat" versions. As a longtime odd lifter, I mostly only noticed when I stopped doing them that I couldn't function near the same, in a sudden clinch or general life. Grip is fucking huge.
The amount of times you said point while talking about the rapier made me chuckle.
Can you do a "1000 degree English Longsword" video?
To heat a sword to 1000 degrees would remove the heat treat, or temper from the blade of any good sword
Another great vídeo Skall :]
Do a video of "Weapon for strong people."
"Weapons for strong people: Whatever they happen to prefer". Done.
OMGG DADDY, TALK DIRTY TO ME IN THAT VOICE! No but seriously Skall, your voice sounds really cool like that :D
Wonder if there is a secret weapon art in dark souls that allows throw a pommel.
xD
Tarek AL-Jawi that's what the crow quills are
that's sure is deadly
Going to sound thank you a hundred times over. Needed this insight
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say rapier.
Derek S Definitely not. Rapiers are about as heavy as a longsword, and need to be used one handed.
Really? I was thinking because they are skinny blades, that they are lighter. Huh
Derek S Think the same amount of steel, but in a much longer shape.
Ah alright I get it now.
Derek S You are probably thinking of a sword more like an epee. Here is a picture of Matt Easton comparing an epee to a more usable sword:
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Great discussion. One point of disagreement I have is in your comments around shorter people. Different individuals, with differing martial 'virtues' (for lack of a better term), will approach combat in varying ways. For example, in traditional White Crane gung fu, there are actually two sub-divisions of style: One is the gorilla (which is intended for taller, physically stronger people), and one is the crane (meant for smaller, physically lighter, often faster, and yet 'weaker' individuals). Short individuals may lack reach and brute strength, but if they know what they are about, they know how to exploit the advantages they do have, which are mainly in in-fighting scenarios. A smart, shorter individual, will seek to close gaps quickly, tangle the gawky arms of the larger person, and undo them from the inside. That's something that a sword like the gladius is perfect for.
I need to add something for all those who were thinking of a spear.
- no crossguard
- no pommel
- ROUND HANDLE.....
==> shieeet weapon
hah funny joke
I was almost expecting a Final Destination joke there. :P
you are incorrect as there were spears that had all of thoes
But the reach though and most of it is wood. Any person with any amount of strength could just pick it up and do just fine.
Tell this to the spartans! :p
If you want to build up strength but don't want to spend too much money until you can find your ideal sword weight and length, a really great option is to buy yourself a series of ax-handles. They come in various lengths and you can even buy them very cheap if you have a second-hand tool store near you. You can start with the thinnest one you can find or even cut down a broom/shovel handle to the size you want and work your way towards a heavier one, such as one for a large sledgehammer. You can get your strength up relatively quickly this way without too much investment. I'd suggest you do this before deciding which $200+ sword you want to buy. Another option are the Indian maceball weights that some crossfits use, which are a little more spendy in the $20-$80 range (depending on weight) but they are multi-use, can be used two handed, and you can find them at Amazon.com as well as other places online.
Skall you are always sick or beat up.
Spears have had butt-caps, sometimes pointed ones. Various Asian pole-arms have counterweights, so there might be a blade or fork at one end and the equivalent of a mace-head at the other.
For those who are small and quick, rapiers, other cut-and-thrust swords, pole-arms, and slings are good choices for fighting.
what if my only strength is mental strength? :O
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Learn to smite them with psychokinetic bolts?
Hit the damned gym, son.
Yes for the axe. This was one of the primary weapons in tales of amazons, as well as finding them in Eurasian nomad burial mounds for women.
Another aspect to remember is that their was also poison/venom use. The Ancient Greek word for arrow, is where we got our modern term toxin.
An arrow coated in steppe viper venom, doesn't need much penetration to be effective.
I thought the sling or staff sling would be the best weapons for people with low strength. They may require a lot of practice to be remotely effective but the actual mechanical motion of it is very light on the muscles and the weight of the weapon/ammo is practically negligible.
And of course, if you load the sling's cradle up with pommels you have a medieval Fat Man from Fallout!
Ever wanted a Atlatl that's great for piñatas? Have a sling stick!
another advantage to a quarter staff is once you get it moving its momentum and the use of fluid attacks make it easy to get powerful strikes
So this is the first video I watched on this subject (Cause' you're my favourite
doesnt take much strenth to end them rightly
0:59 - Skallagrim, for real.. All the bwos require both Strength and Dexterity. Sure, most of the boys have the DEX requirement being the highest of the two, but the strength requirement is still ideal. And not to mention the Compound Short Bow and the Compound Long Bow in Demon's Souls require alot of Strength in order to even USE. Which makes sense when you notice it has an IRON bowstring. Not to mention in DS1 the Composite Bow requires 11 Strength and 12 Dexterity. They're damn close to even, probably the closest you'd get. In Dark Souls 3, you have teh Dragonrider Bow, which has 19 Strenth and 15 DEX requirement. And need I also mention the Dragonslayer Greatbow is a perfect example of that not all bows are DEX weapons. Seriously, not a single Bow requires JUST Dex. And it's not even the case that 'Bows focus on Dex and Crossbows on Strength'. Most Bows have a somewhat high Dex requirement with a Strength requirement that is AT LEAST 60-80% behind the amount needed for the DEX requirement. Whereas, the Crossbows require a somewhat high amount of Strength, as well as a Dex requirement that's also close by to the amount needed for the Strength requirement. And if you're making the argument that Crossbrows require more Dexterity than Bows, then that's insane. They both need just as much Dexterity as the other. It is simply that Dark Souls made those requirements the way they are to make them have SOME kind of difference.
And in regards to the whole video.. really? No Falchion? :\ The Gladius has always been a boring sword. It works, yeah, but there's alot better weapons out there than that.
You sound sooo badass. )
I see your points about limiting variables in the question of strength and sword use. In my opinion, as someone who has been in combat larps for 27 years, my guideline would be: can you fight with it for an hour or 3 and swing it with sufficient force and skill?
Because sometimes battles will last that long and I need a weapon that won't drain me of my energy and keep my combat effectiveness. Cardio and muscle endurance will be the determining factors here.
We also need to limit the applications or areas of use. Is this a dual or a full scale battle? Different load outs for both.
Personally I'd get a rapier if I had to choose a sword, but I would carry a light 7-9 foot spear instead if given a choice. Much easier to wield and much more effective in a veriety of applications. I would have more range then a sword and it would use more of my body to use them a sword. I know body mechanics are essential here but a sword will drain your arms endurance more then a spear will.
Just my thoughts. Great video and thanks for your input :)