Why J-Pop Is Defeated By K-Pop In The World? | The Japan Report #10

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    Why J-Pop Is Defeated By K-Pop In The World?
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    00:00 Introduction
    00:43 Opening Joke
    01:29 Domestic Market
    03:18 Japanese Entertainment Was Banned In South Korea?
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    08:17 Incubation system for idols
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  • @Meshida
    @Meshida  2 года назад +52

    Please write your comment and if you want to know more about the Japanese idol industry, watch this video too!!!
    ruclips.net/video/HMlf8fz9cEc/видео.html

    • @makisekurisu4674
      @makisekurisu4674 2 года назад +1

      Hey Meshida, I heard from my friends and uncles living in Japan that Japanese are racist against Indians but not racist against us Bangladeshis for some reason.
      Can you confirm it.

    • @woljay9362
      @woljay9362 2 года назад +2

      @@makisekurisu4674 your friends uncle was lying like how you guys do. Japanese will see/smell Bangladeshi as Indians

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +4

      @@woljay9362 yes!hahaha😂😂😂

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +7

      @@makisekurisu4674 Don't worry, all foreigners are gaijin!hahaha😁

    • @woljay9362
      @woljay9362 2 года назад

      @@Meshidaall foreigners are stinky too 😂🤣

  • @user-qm7jw
    @user-qm7jw 2 года назад +22

    Because Japanese music industry doesn't give a shit about overseas. Koreans aim to sell overseas, while Japanese aim to sell domestically. Japan's music market is the second largest in the world after the U.S., so Japanese artists do not need to go out of their way to market their products overseas.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +6

      Japanese music industry doesn't give a shit about overseas!!!hahaha

  • @ashburnian
    @ashburnian Год назад +18

    Defeat? That's not a word I'd use for music or entertainment. Nobody in Korea would think Kpop has defeated Jpop. We Koreans are surprised and thankful that Kpop became so popular globally. Defeating Jpop or other countries music was never been an agenda for the Kpop industry. Kpop exists to entertain people and make money from it. So I beg you to stop seeing things from a war/competition/conquering perspective.

  • @bryansencaki8974
    @bryansencaki8974 2 года назад +153

    I don't mind being a creepy viewer as long as I can watch Meshida-san being roasted by Ken-san's robotic English :D

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +56

      Oh!!! your comment made my day.
      Don't worry in Japan, I and Ken san are called creepy Japanese.hahaha
      We need international creepy friend!!

    • @ryuukakhadijah7766
      @ryuukakhadijah7766 2 года назад +2

      @@Meshida Wanna add me in the list? 😂

    • @lubabkhubab_1366
      @lubabkhubab_1366 Год назад +5

      Here is one more creep you found on the global market meshida san.

  • @LoveYamachan
    @LoveYamachan 2 года назад +152

    Early 2000s Jpop was booming, then they restricted all online media due to piracy... sure it's understandable BUT they did not provide options for foreign fans~ I remember someone posting how to buy an album from the company's Japanese website... no access to variety shows either that the idols go on to.... even the PVs are only accessible by buying DVD or 1 min versions posted on YT (if they post at all)~ If Jpop did not cocoon themsleves they would've had the same global chance as Kpop~

    • @blablup1214
      @blablup1214 Год назад +5

      It is the same with anime. For a long time it was very hard getting access to anime in a legal way....they are just not sold over here....

    • @PilipBwoy
      @PilipBwoy Год назад +5

      I remember buying my first jpop album in the early 2000s and it cost around 35 bucks while I can buy 3 kpop cds for the same price

    • @llsuperproxyll
      @llsuperproxyll 9 месяцев назад

      😅😅😊😊😊😊

    • @fckthemedia1649
      @fckthemedia1649 8 месяцев назад

      2000s and onwards jpop is 💩💩
      1980s jpop = 👑
      1990s jpop =🤩

    • @mana_beast_beats1114
      @mana_beast_beats1114 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly! There was so much potential in the Middle 2000s for Japanese Bands to sell their albums in the Western Market. Dir en grey, Gackt, The Gazette, Mucc and many others tried to sell their albums and concert DVDs in Western Shops. Hot Topic tried to get on board with the Japanese Rock / Visual Kei explosion happening in the USA. It was so much easier and cheaper to buy a Dir en grey CD in Hot Topic for $14, rather than to buy an import directly from Japan for $40.
      I also remember Hot Topic sold the "Shoxx" and "Cure" VK fasion magazines, as well as an English Printed magazine for VK & J-Rock fans, called "Purple Sky" -- this magazine was started by Brian "Boo" Stewart, someone who was well known for starting the website called "Centigrade-J" where they shared their English translations of Dir en grey's songs.
      2006 to 2011 was the peak / apex of the Japanese Rock fandom in the USA. But because of not enough promotion, the boom died down... K-Pop moved in to fill the void, but for me, it is not the same! Metal & Rock is better than Pop! Where are the Korean Metal Bands? Does Korea have anything similar to Visual Kei? Where is the theatrics? Where is the edginess? There is nothing edgy or fun about a bunch of cute looking wanna-be Nsync type of bands.... that is what K-Pop sounds like to me. Boring "Backstreet Boy" type of music. I want the loud and angry music like Dir en grey and The Gazette! I want the pretty "Classical Inspired" music like Gackt and Malice Mizer! Not boring "Pop Music!" If I want "Pop" I will just listen to Utada Hikaru or Ayumi Hamasaki.... but I would prefer something more similar to a Japanese Nine Inch Nails or a Japanese Marilyn Manson.
      Pop Music just isn't edgy and angry enough! Boring! Like "Country Music" or "Christian Rock" lol.... Boring, boring, boring!

  • @RieCeleste
    @RieCeleste 2 года назад +97

    Japanese music aside from anime should also be known outside but the problem is some of entertainment companies doesn't want to share the music. There are some music that you cannot access because it's restricted.
    I kinda feel bad that the past conflict cannot be forgotten easily. Both countries for me had a good music taste and i hope that they can work collaborately but i don't think it will happen..

    • @ddwkc
      @ddwkc 2 года назад +18

      Yeah there was a timing that Jpop could have been more popular, but Japanese companies cuck blocked any way to share the music. It was really hard for a while during 2000s to really get into Jpop. I was getting into Morning Musume, but around early 2000s was noticeably hard to get any content related to them.

    • @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel
      @cetriyasArtnComicsChannel Год назад

      so much region blocking with them..

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 10 месяцев назад

      But isn't anime music Japanese music? If Korea had more ppl they would also have anime and some of their good songs would then become anime music O_o...

  • @ZOMUESA
    @ZOMUESA 2 года назад +90

    For me its quite simple, availability and promotion. Years ago Japanese companies are very strict in copyright and alot of places where ppl uploaded music or MV were taken down. But for kpop they literally take advantage of such platform in promoting them. Nowadays, each idol group even has their own channel to promote their contents!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +13

      Yes!

    • @johnnybaum7957
      @johnnybaum7957 2 года назад +12

      It wouldn't have mattered since Japan only focused on their domestic market it never got to evolve and stayed stagnant just like Japan's economy.
      The quality of music, singing, performance etc is just lacking and still stuck in the 90's and early 2000's. If you don't change and evolve you will be left behind and die, that is what happened to JPOP. So it was basically inevitable no matter what they did.

  • @liteasura6111
    @liteasura6111 2 года назад +69

    J pop was popular back in the day due to the spread of weeb on social media, but never was advertised to the west by Japanese companies. But with the copyright right strike system from Japanese companies on RUclips, people don't get to advertise J pop song as much.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +2

      Naruhodo!!!!

    • @thanosal-titan
      @thanosal-titan 2 года назад +5

      "back in the day"?
      What "day" are you talking about?
      There's no social media in the 90's. We knew and enjoyed Japanese music through CRT TV screen.

    • @p4ulooping
      @p4ulooping 2 года назад

      Truth

    • @gamegainz344
      @gamegainz344 2 года назад

      @@thanosal-titan early to mid 2000's

    • @thanosal-titan
      @thanosal-titan 2 года назад +3

      @@gamegainz344
      Still, in those days social media was not really a thing

  • @Denilsonortiz1989
    @Denilsonortiz1989 2 года назад +166

    I think that anime has helped a lot in the raising of Jpop all over the world, not recognized enough as kpop, but at least it's a big step forward 🤟

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +15

      Arigato😆

    • @amanekaze
      @amanekaze 2 года назад +14

      Yup, famous or not, japanese people stay original and do their own way. I don't care about kpop anymore, I only listen songs and done, I forgot about them. That's how I do it when I used to be carat fan of Seventeen, and disappeared after

    • @thanosal-titan
      @thanosal-titan 2 года назад +23

      Actually, Anime was and still is the main way Japanese musics spread around the world. If not because of anime, people in Brazil or Indonesia or France would not know about Asian Kungfu Generation, Aimer or King Gnu.

    • @energeticstunts993
      @energeticstunts993 2 года назад +7

      @@amanekaze exactly. Kpop are getting into the global market, so their song don't sound too different from Western pop. Jpop still sounds different

    • @narudayo5053
      @narudayo5053 2 года назад +1

      @@thanosal-titan Yep! Also the fact that japanese music artist are always invited each years to do a concert during con for a while, while for kpop concert outside of korea only begin around 2012 and were very few

  • @jaypeedesuyo662
    @jaypeedesuyo662 2 года назад +26

    Lmao. 😂🤣 The way Meshida-san roast Suzuki-san in the video is just gold. I can't stop laughing. 🤣

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @shanicestella2226
    @shanicestella2226 2 года назад +9

    Its Marketing Tactic Issue ,
    Kpop Agency are Very Agrressive to Promoting their Artist with Aggresive Marketing Tactics , so the accessability of Kpop in every platform (( from video streaming platform until various music streaming platform )) having easier accesability compared to Jpop

  • @mgphyothant
    @mgphyothant 2 года назад +9

    Yes, K-pop is great but it lacks diversity. What's wrong with the Japanese music industry doing a variety of genres (rock, pop, etc.) they love. Remember Hollywood didn't become a king in the entertainment industry by copying from others. Creativity and uniqueness are valuable access in the entertainment industry. All it takes is for Japanese artists to continue exploring what defines their identity. Someday market will follow them.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @markee3428
    @markee3428 2 года назад +43

    The coffee that I was drinking came out of my nose when Meshida-san introduced broken C3PO-san (Suzuki-san). AHAHAHAHAHA this duo is so hilarious! Thank you for giving us laughter in all of your videos. I've finished watching all your videos by the way in less than a week 🤣. I'll be waiting for more!

  • @lumirairazbyte9697
    @lumirairazbyte9697 2 года назад +32

    I still don’t understand: Are they imposing themselves barriers, restricting the sale of their music worldwide, because culturally they don’t want to be globally famous in the first place?
    I talked with some artists and they said they don’t have the control of the distribution of their music, and they wish their music would be played outside Japan. I wonder how much control the music labels in Japan have in the artist career.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +6

      Good point!!!

    • @raikaroku
      @raikaroku 2 года назад +3

      i think some companies are starting to reach foreign fans. this can be seen with some artist starting youtube channels, uploading their MVs and sometime vlogs. its not a direct promotion but at least foreign fans gets access with them easier. you can also site AKB expansion to different asian countries with localize sister groups. One convention in my country constantly inviting japanese performers pre pandemic.

    • @ryuukakhadijah7766
      @ryuukakhadijah7766 2 года назад +8

      That's so sad. A number of cool Japanese bands didn't get the recognition they deserve despite their awesome output

    • @suiken3149
      @suiken3149 2 года назад +9

      Because companies in Japan have backward mindset about copyrights. Like Nintendo suing a fan for making a non-profit fan game or just covering a popular track in a game.

    • @lumirairazbyte9697
      @lumirairazbyte9697 2 года назад +4

      @@raikaroku Just to know that the AKB franchise has released their discography for streaming and iTunes overseas on 2021…. like many years after their debut. Why, because the pandemic made them close their theaters and cancel all their physical activities.
      Only in the time of crisis they have to recognize not only Japan but their fans on other markets, to recover their loses.

  • @esitu5655
    @esitu5655 2 года назад +25

    And for us who are older, we should revive Japanese city jazz-pop from the 1980´s

    • @davidong9458
      @davidong9458 2 года назад +3

      Plastic love did that already

  • @davidhouston4810
    @davidhouston4810 2 года назад +38

    As a member of the "Creepy" Market, I really like your videos, they make me laugh.
    But thankfully Nihon Music consists of more than J-Pop Idols.
    I'm a Fan of J-Rock, and particularly Girls Rock, For their skill and ability.
    Musically Nihon has produced some of the finest Musicians in the world, in all fields.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +11

      Arigato😆
      Don't worry. I'm a creepy Japanese too!!!hahaha

    • @sy_elephant
      @sy_elephant 2 года назад +1

      @@Meshida Not as 'creepy' as Hentai Kamen

    • @karepanman8705
      @karepanman8705 2 года назад

      @@sy_elephant You mean Suzuki-san?

    • @davidhouston4810
      @davidhouston4810 2 года назад

      @@Meshida Creepy People of the world Unite, we have nothing to lose but our minds.
      Ha Ha Ha.

    • @sy_elephant
      @sy_elephant 2 года назад

      @@karepanman8705 Well suzuki-san could actually be one. You never know...

  • @YouTubeLate
    @YouTubeLate Год назад +7

    I still listen religiously to J-Pop. K-Pop is overrated. It basically is just Korea trying to outdo Japan (like they always do for some reason). K-Pop to me has no substance unlike J-Pop. It’s has more to do with pretty surgically enhanced faces than musical artistry.

  • @honokami-sama8462
    @honokami-sama8462 2 года назад +14

    South Korea is a lot more open minded with marketing and making things available for the world. While Japan still has the "by Japan for Japan" mentality. I know Johnny's & Associates are trying to do something with bringing wider access to their goods/etc but I see it as an exception to the rule.

    • @RieCeleste
      @RieCeleste 2 года назад +1

      I agree with your statement.

    • @HajimeNoJMo
      @HajimeNoJMo 2 года назад +10

      As explained, Japan still has the second biggest music market in the world, which helps. Plus, most Korean artists and executives spent time or were born and raised in the US, so English and exposure to the international market is a huge advantage to them.

  • @agentspencer7739
    @agentspencer7739 2 года назад +69

    You're truly a perfect comedy duo. Your constant jabs at each other is downright hilarious. The format is so entertaining while being really informative. I'd honestly suggest more of these kind of videos. Keep up the good work. 👍🏽

    • @bcl3341
      @bcl3341 2 года назад +5

      I second this. Meshida presents as stern & serious(in the Japan Report) and Ken contrasts that very well by not being as "imposing" but still imposing enough by way of the business suit and delivery. I perceive Meshida as the more aggressive party in the banter, and combined with the size difference, I think that makes Ken's jabs that much more funny in a David/Goliath kind of way. I'm happy not the only person picking up this!

    • @edwardkim8972
      @edwardkim8972 2 года назад

      I think this is a cultural aspect of Japan. Friends that like to jab one another. The two conflicting peasants in Akira Kurosawa's "The Hidden Fortress" were inspiration for George Lucas for the constantly bickering droids C3P0 and R2D2.

  • @AddaeAkono
    @AddaeAkono 2 года назад +28

    I had the pleasure of working a K-pop concert when the K-pop group "Twice" was in town. About 10,000 people attended that concert and the fans were super loud when they came on stage. The fans were very chill and didn't cause any problems that night. I'm not into K-pop, but I do listen to a little bit of J-pop in the form of J-rap. I also follow Japanese artist like Masayuki Suzuki, Lyn, and Yuuji Oono.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад

      Thanks 😆

    • @monique_pryce
      @monique_pryce 2 года назад +1

      Who’s your favorite J-rapper? I LOOOVE Korean rap, but haven’t come across any J rappers that didn’t seem corny. 😂😂

    • @AddaeAkono
      @AddaeAkono 2 года назад +2

      @@monique_pryce I'm a causal listener to J-rap, but I've been following Punpee ever since they did the OP for the Odd Taxi anime. I'm also a huge fan of the Hypnosis Mic series which features a lot of fictional J-rapers. I haven't come across any K-rappers lately.

    • @thanosal-titan
      @thanosal-titan 2 года назад

      @@monique_pryce
      Home Made Kazoku

    • @monique_pryce
      @monique_pryce 2 года назад

      @@AddaeAkono I like the old school ones, like tiger JK. But thanks for your recommendation! I’ll check them out

  • @asicdathens
    @asicdathens Год назад +13

    JPop may not be as popular as KPop, but JMetal is killing it There are plenty metal bands extremely successful. I personally have the discography of Lovebites and Band Maid on CD's / LP's

  • @Praticobidegow
    @Praticobidegow 2 года назад +37

    I laugh more than i should. I love you Meshida-san and Suzuki-san 😂❤️

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +6

      Arigato!!!(^O^)

  • @melfingadgets4350
    @melfingadgets4350 2 года назад +6

    Korea is known for its kpop
    Japan is known for its anime
    China is known for its cheap labor
    Everyone has its own forte

  • @chasse-nigb3r
    @chasse-nigb3r 2 года назад +7

    K pop might be more popular but in terms of actual music even japanese pop songs/anime song writers know what music theory is and can play instruments, while the most popular artist in the world the "western and kpop" literally take the musical talent part out and throw it in the trash then proceeds to replace it with a lot of autotune and pre recorded loops of drums etc., japanese singers do use autotune like myth and roid and fear n loathing but they can still sing live, while the us and kpop either go full autotune or just lipsynching cause they are on stage for the eye candy anyways not their talent.

  • @ChronoMoogle
    @ChronoMoogle Год назад +14

    Ken-san casually roasting the whole audience like that. What a legend!

  • @blackbirdgamingamv8654
    @blackbirdgamingamv8654 2 года назад +9

    The people who like BTS in my country are known as gay people 😂😂🤣🤣

  • @chriscooper654
    @chriscooper654 Год назад +10

    This creepy US American loves your content, Meshida-san! Thank you for telling us about GoziU, I wish them great success!

  • @nadonado648
    @nadonado648 2 года назад +12

    Hallyu is very popular nowadays in Japan too, it influences most of teenagers there. A lot of Japanese Kpop fans also wants to go to Korea and audition for agencies in order to be an idol there instead of Japan, I’ve watched a lot of documentaries about Kpop training and I must say that I was very shocked when I saw a lot of Japanese teenagers mostly are girls, training in Korea..

  • @marlonlucero4482
    @marlonlucero4482 2 года назад +33

    Im filipino i really like jpop since i was a kid i sing Japanese songs from the anime and super sentai, alot of anime at super sentai was aired in the philippine television when i was a kid. And i really love it and im proud to say AKB48 has a Sister group here in the Philippines MNL48 (MANILA 48). 💙💙💙

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @elianrojas7203
    @elianrojas7203 2 года назад +4

    Here a "creepy foreigner" of your show 😆😆😆and here is your like Meshida San

  • @Herrera_70
    @Herrera_70 Год назад +5

    I was a JPOP fan in my high school years😭😭 I knew Jpop because of all the anime I watched. But quickly Kpop took over, all the atention was on them and still is, jpop pretty much disapeared from the public eye😭

  • @j-bichannel5841
    @j-bichannel5841 2 года назад +7

    I still prefer J-Pop due to it's alternative and variety of music styles. Also, Koreans copy a lot of Japanese models like AKB 48 > Produce 101 series. BTS has also copied many Western artists, infact they plagiarized over 48 foreign artists.

  • @casebycase_904
    @casebycase_904 2 года назад +120

    Bahahahahaha "we get foreign fans who are weird in their own countries" i am dying 🤣
    I'm a Korean and Japanese half who grew up in both Korea, Japan and America, and I have to say... korean friends liked japanese pop then stopped a couple years before 2010s and my japanese friends started to like k pop around the same time.
    It's definitely interesting to see the trends

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +3

      Arigato😆

    • @aoeu256
      @aoeu256 10 месяцев назад

      Weird theory but what if there were a lot of ghost writers for JPOP that were Korean and/or Chinese? Koreans then figured out they can just go for Western audiences instead of Japanese.

  • @Jimmilito1
    @Jimmilito1 2 года назад +9

    Did Suzuki san just call me a creepy foreigner?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ZaGaijinSmash
    @ZaGaijinSmash 2 года назад +6

    This is just the story of modern Japan. Outside of the car industry Japan just looks inward.

  • @junbug9844
    @junbug9844 2 года назад +4

    Korea is good at pop, but Japan makes better rock music but Japanese 80s city pop now that's something else lol.

  • @FernandoGonzalez-zl5xr
    @FernandoGonzalez-zl5xr 2 года назад +7

    "We only get the nerdy foreign fans who are seen in their own countries as weir"... Yes sr. I confirm, we are. I'm Mexican with a J-Rock playlist.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад

      Arigato!🤣

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt 6 месяцев назад +4

    This RUclips channel is a gem.

  • @bcl3341
    @bcl3341 2 года назад +24

    I don't even listen to K-pop or J-pop, I am here strictly for the dialogue between Ken & Meshida! I don't think you could just grab two random Japanese guys, dress them in suits, have them read the script and get the same results as the Japan Report, at least not without a fight or significant struggle, but it probably wouldn't as funny😹✌

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +5

      Arigato😆

  • @Pikachu-pi5qh
    @Pikachu-pi5qh Год назад +8

    but jpop quality is better than kpop

  • @anhq.d4705
    @anhq.d4705 2 года назад +9

    Please do more video like this in the future!! Really enjoyed when you guys try to speak Korean!

  • @gruu
    @gruu 2 года назад +4

    Hilarious and informative at the same time. Absolutely love these!!

  • @AngelRodriguez-or4yo
    @AngelRodriguez-or4yo 2 года назад +4

    To be FAIR. K-pop stans are probably seen as weirder than weebs.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      hahaha😁

  • @devonmiller113
    @devonmiller113 2 года назад +10

    Along with the overall availability, I think K-pop is MUCH more similar stylistically and genre wise to American pop. Therefore, in a world where US pop is the most popular music in the world, music that is stylistically similar will naturally be more accessible to most people. I think that this is a huge factor as well.

  • @KurtStaInes
    @KurtStaInes Год назад +1

    One of the best videos I have ever seen with Meshida-sans channel. I have been Binge all thru the videos and the youtube algorithm already promotes it . Please make more crazy and weird topics in a funny way . Your content is a GEM.

  • @emilg7078
    @emilg7078 2 года назад +3

    this format is gold! Great Duo!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +2

      Arigato😆

  • @hangeishot7919
    @hangeishot7919 2 года назад +3

    Japanese Comedian Meshida.
    You two are really good together.
    The best comedy duo.

  • @E71101
    @E71101 Год назад +1

    Great video! As always! Thank you!

  • @TheStandardBearer
    @TheStandardBearer Год назад +1

    That singing in the beginning made me chuckle. Thank you.

  • @PCS1LDV
    @PCS1LDV 2 года назад +3

    Please keep up the wonderful videos! You two are fantastic!

  • @davidong9458
    @davidong9458 2 года назад +21

    The appeal of Jpop , especially the older eras , last longer than Kpop . Look at video clips of the 80s artists Akina Nakamori , miki matsubara , mariya takeuchi , Anzen chitai , the 90 / early 00s artists - Ayumi hamasaki , namie amuro , Globe, Every little thing , kiroro . and many more , they are still gaining views.

    • @dogpoop7377
      @dogpoop7377 2 года назад

      That's city pop which is night and day compared to modern Jpop

    • @davidong9458
      @davidong9458 2 года назад +3

      @@dogpoop7377 city pop is just a term coined by western media , it was just japanese pop music in the 80s. You ask any japanese on city pop, they prob be puzzled " nani??"

    • @missplainjane3905
      @missplainjane3905 2 года назад

      @@davidong9458
      Really

    • @lemons2300
      @lemons2300 2 года назад

      @@davidong9458 That may be true, but wasn't the term "J-pop" also unknown before the early 90s? So I think the term "J-pop" is specific to pop music since the 90s.

  • @Momo-qo7is
    @Momo-qo7is 2 года назад +1

    This report is hilarious. Love it! Great job!

  • @kum882
    @kum882 2 года назад +4

    Maybe in pop genre now kpop is more popular but actually in other genre like rock, metal, or jazz, japan is another level!!!

  • @edisonchin2463
    @edisonchin2463 2 года назад +9

    Wow, didnt expect Ken San to speak korean so fluently~

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +3

      Korean people commented he can't understand what Ken san said!!hahaha

  • @choirulabidin9890
    @choirulabidin9890 2 года назад +5

    I still watch K-drama along with anime nowdays. Thats why i like Korean's ballads song (the OST of the drama i've watched mostly) and Japanese rock (also the OST from anime). So, i don't care about what trending on music chart. I don't care about the language of the song. I had a various language on my music library. Thats the major points why my neighbour said i am weird.

  • @adrianuh2762
    @adrianuh2762 Год назад +2

    Not Creepy market (maybe?), Meshida San you're the only one who tells the things as they are. I'm so grateful. Good Vibes from Mexico.

  • @EliBTR5.3
    @EliBTR5.3 2 года назад +9

    I'm a pretty big fan of some K-Pop artists but can't deny that I love J-Pop and J-Rock as well. Fell through a rabbit hole after looking up songs from animes i love and from there I learned about Hysteric Blue and Judy and Mary then I learned about Yuki, Yui Makino, Round Table and others. As well I'm a pretty big fan of Tokyo Joshi Pro Wrestling and from there learned about idol groups such as AKB48, SKE48, UpUp Girls etc. Japan has some great music!

  • @chinemeremohaeri9100
    @chinemeremohaeri9100 2 года назад +7

    Lol, their expressions are like they are holding in farts. Also, ''Chang, that's not K-pop.'' almost killed me. ROFLMAO!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @ricerockit
    @ricerockit 2 года назад +5

    That was a great video you guys, it was not only informative but hilarious! I grew up in the US listening to K-Pop and J-Pop ever since I was in middle school and now I'm living in Taiwan. So this was a lot of fun to watch for me!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

    • @benjackson7872
      @benjackson7872 2 года назад +1

      I’m just curious, do you speak Korean and Japanese well?

  • @Rawbtala
    @Rawbtala 6 месяцев назад +2

    God I can’t say enough how precise all of this is.

  • @edwardgonzalez4277
    @edwardgonzalez4277 2 года назад +4

    You guys are so funny!!!! I had a good time watching the video. Thank you David Thomas Singson for sending me the link.

  • @kabochaVA
    @kabochaVA 2 года назад +6

    13:32 "All the members are over 50"
    NINGEN ISU has entered the chat. 😂
    But seriously, NINGEN ISU is a very good metal band (and it seems they are getting better with age!)

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад

      Arigato😆

    • @amanekaze
      @amanekaze 2 года назад

      THEIR SONGS ARE PERFECT, I had one of their song in my music app and it rocks. The title is Katana To Saya. The song gives me a vibes of my OC!! I started to listen to them because of the new songs on their channel

  • @musiclove94r
    @musiclove94r 2 года назад +6

    I prefer Nogizaka46, Hinatazaka, Sakurazaka, AKB and other J pop girls simply because they have a more natural facial appearances rather than many K pop girls who went for plastic surgeries...

  • @temjin44
    @temjin44 2 года назад +1

    The insight in the topics are good but much better with the comedic touch. Awesome channel.

  • @ramonramirez3060
    @ramonramirez3060 Год назад +2

    Finally got to learned what"s Jpop & Kpop & the difference between them. Excellent & funny way of doing so, had a great laught, 2 thumps up!!

  • @wateezit
    @wateezit 2 года назад +8

    Pop industries have always been the strategic assets of soft power projections. Japan did promote their idols like Kyon Kyon, Akina, Checkers and Anzenchitai in foreign markets in the 80's. The idea was to inculcate and associate the feel good factors of Pop to Japanese brands among the teenagers. That way, the kids tended to think favourably of the Japanese brands when they grew up and were making the purchasing decisions. By the end of the 90's, most Japanese brands were already well established and maybe that's why the large corporations no longer see the need to promote their pop industry. After that, Korean came to fill up the void left by Jpop and repeated the game.

  • @usagiroxie
    @usagiroxie 2 года назад +15

    J-Pop global fans are weird? Oh man I don't even want to tell anyone on how I found out about GACKT now... 😂 Great video, Meshida-san and Ken-san! 😊

  • @user-wd9wq5yv4i
    @user-wd9wq5yv4i Год назад +4

    14:32 The common misconception of foreigners is that they think Koreans only listen to K-pop idol songs.
    But in reality K-pop isn't really popular among the general public in Korea.
    Sure, the general public will occasionally listen to a song by a K-pop
    but most of the general public doesn't go in for "idol culture"
    Among the general public, they prefer Hip-hop, R&B, Ballads, EDM, Trot, Western music, and domestic artists/soloists.
    So why are there so many idols on the Korean music charts?
    Because it's a chart mainly for idol manias. There are many music charts in Korea.

  • @sumansaha295
    @sumansaha295 2 года назад +5

    I think recently vtubers may have introduced many to J-pop. I was laughing so loud at the creepy market part the execution was perfect.

  • @LaloMartins
    @LaloMartins 2 года назад +6

    There are lots of creepy people in the world, so maybe dominating the creepy market is a viable strategy after all.

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato!! I'm a creepy Japanese too.hahaha

  • @weed_0017
    @weed_0017 2 года назад +8

    HHAHBAHABA WATCHING THE VID WAS FUN AF . your videos are always enjoyable , while being informative . I personally am a J-pop fan , i feel like K-pop as become too generic . in k-pop ,as you said, we get to hear the same kinds of things again and again . in j-pop , there is like a million different catofories of songs. love you meshida-san and ken-san

  • @ananymishra968
    @ananymishra968 2 года назад

    Thanks for making us laugh. It's good to see you guys gain more popularity

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад

      thanks a lot!

  • @Aspiret620
    @Aspiret620 2 года назад +2

    holy shit I'm in tears please keep making videos

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      ありがとう!!!!!

  • @irwanhammadi
    @irwanhammadi 2 года назад +6

    Despite k-pop became popular around the world but I still support j-pop through my all life. I am the only one in my circle of friends who still listen to j-pop music while they like to listen to k-pop music

  • @BenelliAkimbo
    @BenelliAkimbo 2 года назад +8

    when it comes music I personally like Japanese rock and metal been listening to bands like Crossfaith (Japanese Metalcore band) and maximum the hormone and as for Korean music I've basically been listening to the guy who pioneered it all... Seotaiji for a bit of context
    Jeong Hyeon-cheol, better known as Seo Taiji or Seo Tae-ji (서태지), is a South Korean singer, musician, songwriter and record producer. After dropping out of high school to pursue a music career, he rose to become one of the most prominent and influential cultural icons in South Korea, with many referring to him as "the President of Culture".
    Following a brief stint in the heavy metal band Sinawe, Taiji formed Seo Taiji and Boys in 1992 with whom he found immediate success. Their style of music, dance, fashion, and self-presentation resonated with the young generation-termed the sinsedae, "new generation." They incorporated elements of popular musical genres from the West and contributed considerably larger to Korean pop culture and Korean pop's development in the 1990s. His songs addressed social and political concerns of the youth including the stressful and stifling system of education in Korea, and the rage of youth in the face of poor social and economic outlook. Widespread youth backlash to government suppression of the social commentary in his music became a catalyst for the abolishment of censorship of Korean popular music lyrics. His career paved the way for free expression in Korean pop music. Although he initially announced retirement upon disbanding the group in 1996, Taiji released his first solo album two years later and continued his successful career.

  • @kevin26exe
    @kevin26exe 2 года назад +3

    Really enjoying this channel! Keep up the uploads! :)

  • @runekai250
    @runekai250 2 года назад +1

    Really enjoyed this channel. Keep it up

  • @translumination2002
    @translumination2002 2 года назад +5

    One of the funniest ones you guys have done. When you guys pick on each other it is almost.. cruel

  • @mohommadshahjad3039
    @mohommadshahjad3039 Год назад +3

    Ohhhh yeah, i am a weird foreigner watching ur video 🤣🤣

  • @jan-ovepedersen5764
    @jan-ovepedersen5764 Год назад +2

    LOL the creepy market, that was a good one. Greetings from Norway 🙂

  • @murderofcrows2179
    @murderofcrows2179 2 года назад +1

    Best analytic summary

  • @johnbarrystrangelove4617
    @johnbarrystrangelove4617 2 года назад +11

    You guys are funny as hell, you should have a TV show 🤠 Keep up the good work!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @ejtaylor73
    @ejtaylor73 2 года назад +5

    Japan has one claim to fame that'll never go away, BABY METAL!!!!!!! Personally I like some groups from both Japan and Korea.

  • @MaxBraver555
    @MaxBraver555 9 месяцев назад +2

    I think it's because of 1 important thing, is marketing target demographics, and that is international, even though they can't be understood, there's subtitles in their music videos, J-Pop on the other hand, while their songs being used in anime (especially in the 90's) helps promoting their songs, when you look or search for their songs/music video, there's no subtitles like it was only targetted for Japanese audience only, which I have nothing against, if that's their way, BUT there are few that does it. even with that set, I'm more into Japanese Pop culture

  • @princepsnamque1709
    @princepsnamque1709 2 года назад +1

    One of your best videos!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @xiaph2581
    @xiaph2581 2 года назад +4

    Hehehe PPOP is also emerging and is fighting head on SB19 is now very popular although they were trained in Korea, they still embraced to sing more Filipino songs!

  • @xRanAngel
    @xRanAngel Год назад +4

    Yep I'm a foreigner Girl who liked jpop 10 years ago this makes me one of the og nerdy weirdo 😂😅

  • @nr655321
    @nr655321 Год назад +2

    You guys should write a book about Japan. Your mix of relevant information and bluntness is very refreshing and potent. I like to think of myself as a guy who knows a lot about Japan but your content consistently proves me wrong. For instance I never realized that one of the reasons why (no offence) J entertainment is a bit amateurish is because it makes the fans feel more invested in their favourite artist's "growth".

  • @quantumreflex
    @quantumreflex Год назад +1

    I love this Comedy! man, you two are a great Duo!, well written and Funny as Heck!

  • @falloutboyisitachi
    @falloutboyisitachi Год назад +6

    The restrictions on exports seem to apply to more than just the music industry. Recently I was trying to buy computer parts from stores on Rakuten and they straight up cancel my order because of having a foreign billing address, even though I was using a forwarding company! LOL I swear some companies in Japan are just begging for failure, hopefully the next generation to take over will fix their bosses' mistakes

  • @user-rx8kw9om4u
    @user-rx8kw9om4u 2 года назад +13

    I love Jpop since I've heard my father singing Voltes V theme song when I was 3 years old and years after that I actually caught interest in listening and singing to Jpop way back when anime is growing popular here in the Philippines and honestly all of my songs stored in my phone is 98% Jpop as in, and the remaining contains some Filipino music and few Kpop....
    My love for Jpop will never end because it soothes my soul and I feel everyday will be a good day by listening to this genre....
    Love from フィリピン
    🇯🇵🇵🇭💞💞💞

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +5

      ありがとう! from 東京!

    • @lyhthegreat
      @lyhthegreat 2 года назад +3

      but the jpop of today and the ones from before in the 90s are very different imo..but you can say the same thing for any other countries..

  • @asunachan9999
    @asunachan9999 2 года назад +41

    When i was young, Anime was prolific here in our country. I naturally imagined Jpop would follow. I was flabbergasted, however, when Kpop & K-Dramas suddenly overtook it. Anyway, most my fave music artist, to this day, are Jpop oriented. ♥️🇵🇭

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +3

      arigato😊✊

    • @thanosal-titan
      @thanosal-titan 2 года назад +6

      I think, for most of us (Southeast Asian), the kids who grew up in the 90s and 2000s, our favorite music are always local music, western music and Japanese music. That's all.

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster 2 года назад

      kpop tends to be more "modern" IMO. Jpop still largely caters to otaku style music, which is obviously much more niche.

    • @thanosal-titan
      @thanosal-titan 2 года назад +2

      @@GameFuMaster
      Otaku style music?
      What are you talking about?

    • @GameFuMaster
      @GameFuMaster 2 года назад

      @@thanosal-titan hard to describe, but it's very "iconic", in the sense that the style feels like it's stuck in the past.
      It's generally uplifting, with a lower bpm, than say modern music.

  • @alexhonda6421
    @alexhonda6421 2 года назад +7

    I’m not into pops. I’m a metal head so Japan is better for me.
    Maximum the Hormone, Crossfaith, Babymetal and others.
    I miss going to some live houses to listen amateur metal bands. Idk the metal scene in Korea but the metal community in Japan supports each other, I like that.
    I like Ichika Nito as well, imo, one of the best guitar players in the world.

    • @LeViAcKerman-dj4yc
      @LeViAcKerman-dj4yc 2 года назад +1

      Same bro...I love J-Rock so much...I love J-POP too

  • @ComposerUSA
    @ComposerUSA 2 года назад +5

    Some of the most creative, high-quality music ever created was by Japanese artists in the 1980s. Sadly, contemporary Japanese popular music is over-simplified, low-IQ garbage; but so is K-pop. Both J-pop and K-pop are Asian interpretations of African-American popular music, which they mimic because it's currently profitable.

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 2 года назад +4

    (6:44) Interesting, it seems that sexy female K-pop groups can attract both girls and guys. For some reason, female J-pop idols cannot replicate this success.

  • @Erik_001
    @Erik_001 2 года назад +2

    haha! Very very funny and informative! You guys are great. Now I have to get back to watching my kdrama...

  • @Kneezus53
    @Kneezus53 2 года назад +1

    Amazing!!

    • @Meshida
      @Meshida  2 года назад +1

      Arigato😆

  • @SarimFaruque
    @SarimFaruque 2 года назад +8

    It's really a matter of marketing and such. Korean music industry wants to get global, so they simplify their sound (mostly the K-pop group industry; Korean music also includes some indie scenes that are still Korean-based). In contrast, Japanese music is more unique and mostly for Japanese market; you gotta acquire that taste if you're not that much into Japanese pop culture.
    I like both music btw. J-pop has better music instruments and is less westernized, but K-pop does better western music than America does nowadays, and they make better live performances.

  • @cxplorerv3
    @cxplorerv3 2 года назад +3

    I laughed so hard! Great video! 👏🏿

  • @APESHITgoon
    @APESHITgoon 5 месяцев назад +1

    Ken's Korean speaking and singing skills are excellent!!