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Dark Side Of Manga and Anime Industry | Ask a Manga Artist
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Dark Side Of Manga and Anime Industry | Ask a Manga Artist
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00:00 Opening
00:12 Anime and Manga
01:28 Why did you become a manga artist?
03:14 Favourite manga artist
05:07 Standardised exploitation?
06:13 The process of becoming
a successful manga artist
07:41 How to earn money as
a manga artist?
10:30 Dark side of the
animator industry
12:09 Anime’s Diversity
14:23 The Future of the Manga
and Anime Industry
15:54 Honest feelings
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Damn that's alot of cigarettes and his lungs will turn into an american spirit
Just one thought here. Meshida-San, whenever you say "unlike Westerners" or something similar I giggle - Japan, SK, Taiwan are so westernized nations these days, you would definitely feel at home walking streets of Berlin, Warsaw, Prague, more than walking streets in China or other SEA nations :)
Believe it or not, you are part of Western world, as this is not about geolocation :)
Actually, would be great to see you talking about it - elements of western culture that Japan integrated into their own (with obvious Japanese twist to it).
12:54 I completely agree. Japan doesn't need to conform to Western stardards. If anything, the West should learn from Japan as far as creativity and quality control are concerned.
I loved the bit about the activists.
Nobody likes them except for other busybody loudmouths like themselves. And even they don't like each other.
Never change anything for such people. They don't buy the stuff anyway, they just complain to fill the void in their empty, meaningless lives.
They really need to mind their own business.
lol
@@Dogedoge337 if they minded their own business, they'd rope
thats what happens when you lock them in an echo chamber
You read my mind. It's like those people never learned to close a web browser or go and touch grass.
I'm from Belgium but i'm from the northern part so first language is dutch. My mom put me in front of the tv when I was 3 to watch french tv shows for kids in order to learn french. Around that time (in the early eighties) France imported Japanese anime not knowing what is was. I remember whatching hokuto no ken and at first no one gave a shit about the violence. It became a thing when french politician Ségolène Royal started saying kids we're becoming violent because of these types of shows and that they should be banned from tv. But at the same time we saw RoboCop, terminator, Predator and all those other action movies that nowadays can't be made without all sorts of restrictions from the studios. Look how 'Berserk' influenced creative people in the West. Hokuto no ken became a classic even. Manga, anime, games and movies don't make people violent but when society pushes people towards the edge and they can't pay rent or food anymore (including Manga artists) that's when people 'can' get violent.
Arigato!
You are soooo right, the hypocrisy, Americans complains about the boobs on a cartoon, while all the adds in alcohol industry, show pornographers real people pictures, what the hell? Japan has the lowest rates of sexual violence vs US, so is not the manga boobs that is causing this!
I love this tatemae/honne moments. Your channel is one of the few I know which shows what japanese people real think and encourage it. Keep it up the good work!
thanks!
😂😂😂 You can see the stress in the 4 sticks of "American spirit" chain smoked. I hope Junjun can get his own manga series and hope your youtube comedy career pulls of well, you never fail to make my day Meshida! :P
Arigato!
I actually worked as a Manga Artist for Shueisha when I lived in Japan and this is just so true, I had to laugh out loud sooo many times!! Thank you Junjun-san for your honesty :D
And gotta love both of your T-Shirts! 😂
I mentored under Masamune Shirow back in the day. He’s one of the best mangakas to learn from.
Damn... This video is as funny as it is heartbreaking (As a burned out animation filmmaker too, I can totally relate, nowhere in the world is animation a glamorous industry, financially speaking).
When you said good luck in your second life as a businessman, you could see JunJun's heart slowly cracking open, before jokingly pleading that he wants to be a successful mangaka.
Honestly, he's a funny guy ! He could have a 3rd life as a stand-up artist !
You can have videos like this talking about Japan social issues like Nobita (also a yotuber) and injecting humor into the topics. This would work as well and it also allows advertising. It's rare to see Japanese people being honest to their feelings and express it, so this is a refreshing perspective.
Excellent idea
As a foreign man living in Japan, I enjoy your ecchi content 😂.
Thank you for this video. I hope people around the world can see how bad the industry treats their artists.
Next time I will want someone to speak openly, I'll offer them a pack of American Spirit. Other than that, this pretty much confirms the whole state of the Manga&Anime industry. It's so strange how the current standards all hinged on one genius's work ethic to be replicated in future generations without considering it was a one time case.
Thanks for the comment!!!
Yeah it’s one thing for someone like Tezuka to inspire future generations but he unintentionally created an impossible standard that proved burdensome for all who followed. It kinda explains why the highly successful mangaka who helm really long running series start to experience some form of burn out when they’ve been doing the weekly grind for over a decade or more. The fact Eiichiro Oda has kept it going continuously for 25 going on 30 years is nothing short of incredible and should be seen as exceptional rather than the standard.
That's Japanese work culture in general. They assume that what worked from the 1960s to the 1980's bubble will work today. They don't understand that working too much leads to lower quality work.
@@unstoppableExodiaagree
That's a very well written video, some serious emotions and wisdom sprinkled in between jokes. Well done, man!
Thanks!
Japanese creativity needs to stay the way it is, but for god's sake, pay your artists. Let them release at a slower pace. WHO'S GETTING THE 90%???
I will not pay the artists 💵💵😎
It probably goes to the expenses to print and market the manga. And remaining profit to the publishing company.
print and marketing is a small margin of the profit@@runny.nose_
I hope Japan never changes the way to do anime just because of western pressures. It's what makes it so unique ❤️❤️
Thanks!
They could change the work habits though to be less destructive.
@@jadedandbitter yeah, that I agree. Especially if they're facing competition from Japan and China
Manga and anime turned me into a nerd and a weeb. I've been one since 1980, thanks mainly to Uchuu Senkan Yamato, Choudenji Machine Voltes V, and Gatchaman. Half my love for your country comes from childhood cartoons. In 2000, I worked for a 4 color comic book in my country (I was in my late 20s). There were 4 main artists working on a story each, and I was the guy that filled in the colors, helped brainstorm some stories, wrote & edited some articles, and occasionally answered the letters section. It was its own hell and its own heaven. All of us were new, even the publisher. Half the time, we were barely figuring things out. We were all college friends trying to make our childhood dreams come true. There was friction, there were misunderstandings, but we did love the work. Eventually, I got really sick and had to stop. Later, at a convention, I felt that I wasn't really welcome anymore, and that solidified my decision to not return. I'm actually getting flashbacks from listening to Junjun's story. I don't have many regrets: my salary put me through two years of college (mainly because my classes were few, and partly funded by the public). I hope that future mangaka and animators have better conditions than we had. :)
Arigato!
Wow, that “American Spirit” works fast! (I expected more arrogance though.)
Lol
Meshida: "My viewers are 90% foreign men who'd only listen to sexual content"
ME */heavily breathing/*: "...THEY KNEW!"
Arigato!
I am from Canada and I just found your video.
alteast he got us europeans too *tehe*
I'll tell the other Africans that it's not just us, other continents were caught too
I happen to enjoy all his content, however, "I only found his channel because I was watching men/women relationship content and got suggested his videos"
I was reading "Youth Shonen Magazine 1978-1983" about a mangaka working for Weekly Shōnen Magazine in the 80s and he talks about many mangaka who got sick, couldn't walk, had liver failure, and killed themselves because of the stress of drawing a weekly manga (sometimes two or three series at the same time). Reading the manga, I thought "I don't want to read weekly manga that much, please do monthly manga for your health please."
i live in germany and i remember that many of our older cartoons were actually produced in Japan.
-like "Die Biene Maja" (roughly translated: "The Bee named Maja"), based on a german novel about insects acting like people.
-or "Heidi", about a little girl, living with her Grandfather on the Alps.
-or an anime about the italian fairy-tale "Pinocchio", but expanded into several stories.
all of these clearly had a japanese art- and animation-style but were created for european audiences.
新しいアメスピの使い方😂リアルトーク面白かったです、メシダさんいつもありがとうございます。（ごめんpatreon 入ってない💦）
こちらこそいつもありがとうございまーす！
Finding great manga/anime is like gold-digging: Sometimes you find gold, but everything else is just rock, soil and dirt
Yes!
There are many beautiful gems to be found.
@@missplainjane3905 Bard Loen, Saihate no Paladin, and Sousou no Frieren are three absolute standout series atm imo
@@jadedandbitter
Oh, not familiar with the first title, I see you like fantasy theme mangas. Do you read other genres too ?
@@missplainjane3905 the full title is Henkyou no Roukishi Bard Loen. It's about an old knight in the twilight of his life, it's great. I also read some science fiction and adventure manga as well. Can't think of too many current manga series in those genres at the moment though that are really profoundly great like those three are. There are a few Korean Manhwa series that I've found great recently as well. But those guys seem to work even harder than manga artists, it's insane the quality and speed they deliver, it can't be healthy. Come to think of it though, a Korean artist taking a health hiatus does seem to be fairly common..
This was absolutely hilarious! And, unfortunately, true - particularly the part about vested institutional interests squelching change and people opting not to vote. I suspect it will take some dramatic event that forces a change.
Meshida-san - Might you be able to do more episodes with Suzuki-san (a.k.a. “Broken C3PO”) in Japanese (but with English subtitles) in the future? I think the dynamics and fluidity of doing it that way would be really great! (Not sure it will help expand your subscriber base, though.)
Thanks!lol
Rarity hits harder than imagination!
Imagine if a number of influential mangakas banded together and formed their own publishing company.
Everytime he smoked, he spits fire LMAO 🤣
Such genius concept yet again 👍🏻
Arigato!
While honne and tatemae differences have been explained in many material, the application of the cigarette as a cue is clever and complemented very well by the acting of both of you, and the BGM music.
Awesome video, Meshida!
I love the concept of having those two contrasting sides (honne and tatemae), but I can'y help bur think that "the algorithm" is not going to like the amount of smoke that is shown on screen... 😞
That's so true.lol I'm forever poor comedian.lol
As a huge fan of Osamu Tezuka, i appreciated the light hearted roasting of his legacy. He really made life rough for the average modern manga creators. He amazing work set the bar too high 😂☺️😂
Great work again, Meshida!!👍
Arigato!
Lovely and funny conversation about the truth. I really adore and respect people doing wonderful anime/manga, despite being so terribly paid or being ridiculously under pressure. I feel like nowadays it's getting so generic with "isekai" themed anime/mangas, it's being fed up.
Arigato!
That was amazing. I’ve never seen Japanese people speak so openly.
We are very open among Japanese.lol
This was a very well-made and funny video. The concept is unique and very entertaining. Looking forward to seeing more American Spirit themed videos.
American Spirit really do bring out the truth in a way. Lol. A salary man with a humor! Nice interview Meshida-san
Arigato!!!!
Haha, I loved the “American Spirit” gag! 😂 I need to bring some to my next business meeting, to avoid the “yes that means no” 👍😁
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The patriarchy system in Japan which formed the value of 忠(loyalty) that binds the relationships between senior (sempai) and junior; and the value of 孝 (filial piety) that binds the relationship between parents and children, are said to be influenced by Confucianism. I can understand the frustrations of all the juniors and the children when their seniors and parents abused their status and oppressed the underlings with these 'sacred' values. However the seniors often overlooked the other segment of confucianism called the '五伦' which states that parents and seniors must also play their roles appropriately with due consideration given to the other Confucius values of compassion, justice/fairness, humility/courtesy and honesty/honour.
From my own experience, parents, teachers and sempai should allow the juniors some freedom to explore and make mistakes. My own Buddhist master also let me do what i want after certain years because i need to experience things first hand to know what they are. Many seniors, masters or parents are too protective or possessive and try to educate the juniors instead of allowing them to experience things on their own. This is where the conflicts arise because the juniors can't always see things the same way as the seniors because of their different life experiences and dna. So a good way is simply let the juniors experience things on their own and from their interactions and introspection, they get to understand the true nature of their biases and karmic obstacles (dna) are all about. That way, the seniors and juniors can joinly devise a new path that is reasonable/ethical and workable to enable the juniors to overcome their obstacles and be successful in their endeavors.
These traditional Confucius and Buddhist values made the juniors and the children look up to the seniors and parents for inspiration and moral acknowledgement because they represent the guardians of these values. However if the seniors are wrong and biased in representing the spirits of these values, then the juniors may want to write their own rules which they deem as accurate and just.
Yep time changes, what worked in the past may not work now.
Some of the greatest artists in the world work in manga. Toriyama-sensei, Murata-sensei, Kishimoto-sensei, Miura-sensei, Takaki-sensei, Araki-sensei, and Oda-sensei come to mind along with many, many others.
Yes! I respect them a lot. thanks!
@@Meshida You're welcome.
Great interview Meshida san!! Hilarious and very informative. I've been hearing similar stories about manga and anime industry and all he said was actually true.
arigato!
No ways man. I will become mangaka. I don't care how hard it is. Has been my dream since 2017
If you have passion, do it!😊✊
Tezuka Osamu is creator of all mangas you can say,if not him there would be no manga in the world,but manga and anime,so much true of Japan and honne/tatemae are appreciated.Manga and anime is always in my heart,also comedy too.Japan wont be invaded by China I believe in that
Thanks! ありがとう！
I bet Osamu Tezuka-sensei is laughing his ass off from the graves, these poor childs are victim of his creations lmao
Honestly if Japanese people don't suffer this much we wouldn't be this fanatical about their music, Anime, Manga, science, and technology in general.
I mean it's really crazy how devoted they're in their respective field and some are willing to suffer from it.
I don't wanna say it's the best or worst, but i bet most culture would already break or imploded by now if they use Japanese system lmao.
Imagine creating new music and storyboard, drawings, animations each passing weeks and seasons, crazy.
Man, all in all i wanna enjoy Japan and Japanese products while it last lololololol
Arigato!!!
@@Meshida true the problem is the compensation not worth the work. So basically put 100 effort got 10 value
Your channel is extremely important since not only brings some comedy and laughs to Japanese and outsiders, but also gives a chance to your people express themselves without being afraid of judgment
Keep going Meshida-San!
Thank you so much for this Meshida-san, I am busy with an idea for a Manga, so I appreciate this video alot. As always please keep sharing more things about Japan🙏
Arigato!!
I have so much respect for you two that was really nice to hear you're honest opinions and thoughts much love to the both you
Arigato!😍
Meshida. The point you bring up at the end about the young not going to elections makes me remember the author Yukio Mishima who believed Japan was getting too weak and feared for it's future enough to protest in the way that he did that ultimately led to his suicide. What do your Japanese contemporaries think of Mishima? Do you have an opinion on what he did or stood for? I imagine he was lied about in the media (to discourage similar acts?). I know little about him but he seemed to fear Japan eventually becoming extinct/taken over due to it becoming too weak militarily. I understand and share his fear and feel his desire for a stronger more independent Japan was a good desire....I wish he didn't commit suicide but I believe it was a protest similar to when a buddhist monk lit himself on fire as a form of protest. Also he didn't want to live in prison (its harsh in Japan) and he didn't want to live to see Japan staying the same with problems rising....I'm curious if he is brought up in japanese schools at all...is he celebrated of seen as a villain?
Isn't he the one who had his own army of several thousand guys? An amazing man.
Enlightening. I love Japanese animie and comics. I have now a new found respect. Please continue speaking honestly. Your thoughts matter
Respect for overworked artists? What's wrong with you?
Arigato!!!
Excellent video, I'm learning more on real Japan than reading magazines or watching regular news. Thanks so much!
Love your content, Meshida! Also, I too cannot believe how hard manga artists have to work and for so little money, almost 24-7, almost 365 days a year. It is such a beautiful art form, I can only express my gratitude. Even the ones who become huge stars have to work that hard for the most part, unless you can get a monthly serialization and some assistants. I truly appreciate the dedication to their craft of these great artists.
Damn those smoke breaks really make him come out real him 😅
Yoshida San doing smokes is bad for health but you look more lively today 🤣
Thanks!
(14:45) I agree. American comics are too focused on sending a message and are not categorized like manga.
I really like that in the end he actually still want to be a (popular) manga artist. Also, role changes with host doing the honne lol
So Osamu Tezuka was for Japanese animation, what Chuck Jones was for American animation!
I feel and understand both of you guys. Thanks for this awesome video.
戦い続ける！
ありがとう！
Next time, give some cigarettes to Ken san. It will be a lot of fun!!!
When Ken san smoke it, he will die. He is so week.lol
Ken-San: "Meshida-San....... SHUT - THE - F! - UP!"
9:56 So manga getting axed from the company is not the only reason.
For me japan is famous for classic movies, samurais and metal.
also good work mr. Meshida you never cease to amaze with your comedy and content your provide to us!
Arigato!
This channel really needs more subscribers. This video was amazing!
Seeing Japanese people, maybe just men generally?, talk and chat freely, -- I can't tell you how relaxing it is for me. And I really like the Japanese super-power, to distinguish fact from fiction. I was in a Sushi place a while back, and this Japanese guy with this really big heart was just talking very openly, very plainly, and while I could only understand about 50% of what he was saying, his voice was just incredibly sweet, and everything he said was so full of feeling. I hope that Japan doesn't fold to American scolds. And thank you for explaining about the demonetization -- I just got in on your Patreon to help chip in.
Meshida seems to really shine when he has someone to work off of
The honestly is wonderfully refreshing. You both deserve to fulfill your dream.
Sooo funny...TWO comedians today! Well done guys!
Thanks!
@@Meshida, truly my pleasure!
This was one of the funiest videos and really informative ! Bring more Junjun for videos, such a good combination
すばらしい！本当に素晴らしい！
がんばってね!
"Manga and anime fascinate many foreign young people and change them into nerds and make their parents sad"
Can confirm this. I saw 3 episodes of Gatchaman (as G-Force) when I was a young kid in the 80's; I ain't been right since. I also make my parents sad, but that's really for my own amusement. 🤫
Your friend is really handsome, if the manga/business job doesn't work out for him, he could be a model or an actor!
Thanks!
I wonder if webtoon/manhwa artists have better situations, since those are serialized online, and likely get different profit percentages.. though they're harder to create, as they're generally in color as well.
my huge respect for all anime/manga authors thanks for all the stories that you for us
I wish you both well in your chosen jobs!
$1,500 a month as a manga artist? well that is what a person with experience and a bachelors degree gets in my country....
My favourite Meshida video to date. すばらしかったよ。
Thanks!
its the same for gaming industrie. everybody dreams to be a game developer (me included) but its brutal to work in this field.
1:18 Oh, boy! This is the English teacher scenario all over again!
6:46 These types of videos always make me laugh!
12:55 We have the same sentiments over here!
So foreigners don't have to work in manga industry. They just need to focused on IT and Engeenering, if they want to work in Japan.
This video was really informative meshida San.
Also start vlogging type video with comedy elements meshida San. Add some more variety. Hope this will help your channel to grow
Good idea! Thanks!
This is gold 🪙, let's rewatch
Great interview and creative delivery as always. Keep ‘em coming Meshida!
Thanks!
Even though that it is just a fiction for you, doesn't meant that everyone will thinking like that too. Even it is just a fiction, there's line that you should not cross over it. In a long term run, there will be more destruction due to these kind of things. Even it is fiction, it has limit that we should keep.
Huge thank you for your videos! I realy like that you have a first true honest japanese channel! I learn a lot from your videos!
Arigato!
0:53 F*ck*ng true.
4:57 "If one can do it, others should be!" perspective. But still end up disastrous.
0:53 truest thing I ever heard
maaan such an underated video ... bro it's gold what you're making !!!!
Thanks!
im from America and love Manga and Anime thank you guy for your hard work and creative minds
This is by far the REALEST VIDEO I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!
Not only was it funny, but also informative!!!
You said it all, it's all because the "jiji" still in power that refuse to change things....
Makes me think of HOW AHEAD OF ITS TIME the manga "SANCTUARY" was, 30 years ago and already sending a message!!!
The solution to many of Japan's problems start with getting rid of the old people in power and being more flexible and the first thing that should change is allow dual citizenship, that would help solve the economy AND population problems.
Best video of you so far
explains the reduction in anime quality these past years
Your videos have a heart and a soul and are surprisingly honest, subscribed!
Arigato!😍
So funny! Thanks for making this video!!!
With the amount of American Spirit inside junjun, it is safe to say that he spilled all the truth out☁
American Spirit reminds me my first Japanese friend...
Thank you so much for making such a funny and amazing video, Meshida San and Junjun San, really appreciate that.
another day another funny yet helpful video by Meshida.. ではごきげんよう
Man this is the best upload you've done yet. Its so brutally honest it hurts. Coming from people who's culture is about enduring without complaint it really strikes me that you guy's really do have feelings that are ... well just like the rest of us.
arigato!
Great video. I love the honne/tatemae bit
Arigato!!!
Maybe it's something you're working on in the background already, but it would be earth shatteringly funny to see you try your hand at doing an impression of an American accent. Just a suggestion, of course.
Honestly , anime is too fcking long winded , instead of focus on quantity , how about just focus on quality . Its just crazy making new series each week .
The best content from Meshida-san. Well delivered.
Arigato!
This video format is hilarious. You should have more people do American Spirit
Yes! Ill do!
More American spirit more feelings to spill.
I am a huge fan of your channel, without knowing anything about anime/manga. gambatte kudasai!
These honne series are effing funny Meshida-san! This anime artist and the singaporean english teacher are truly funny and enjoyable videos to watch!
I enjoy your videos, Meshida-san. Arigatou!
Really good punchlines, that was true comic act. Satire plus humor.
congratulations on 100k subscribers!
Arigato!😀
This was an excellent video. Talking directly and informative along with the HONEST ( "honne" ) mindset of people about entertainment industry along with political and social situations in Japan.
😊😭
Hefty savings! Alcohol causes talkativeness, the peace pipe replaces the truth serum.
Thanks!
Thanks for video. I will watch later
Arigato!
Very clever
12.30 - 14.30 was my favorite part 😂, smoking to get into mood was also hilarious 😆👍