Recommissioning a Bimota SB8R After 20 Years Standing
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- A look behind the scenes at a recent job I undertook. The recommissioning of a beautiful Bimota SB8RS Carbon Edition.
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Mate I love your videos, never be concerned about “ waffling on", I learn so much from you.
Please do a follow up to this… we need to know if you get to the bottom of this issue, also we would love to see more content from you!! Stuff you may consider boring or mundane we wanna see! A proper days customer visits would be a good watch!!
@ 3:35 Great look at the alloy to carbon frame transition.
Great vid, I had a TLR 20 years ago, wheels, Penske, Race Tech, Tre eliminator, PC. You are spot on with the slow speed handling and fueling. I shaved 45lbs off the stock weight and it still felt like a lead sled. The TLR had a shorter wheelbase than a gsxr 600 but you would never guess that. Don't know how much the TLR differed from the Bimoto in wheelbase seat height etc. What worked for me, this was for me only and might not be for everybody, get a adjustable rear shock and raise the rear ride height and run a 190-60 rear tire. adjustable steering damper set at the lower settings. When I rode the bike after these mods at first it was great but when pushed it got kinda scary. I put in heavier fork springs and went back to stock gearing and all was good. I know this vid was about the SB but I ended up loving my TLR and don't get to write about it often.
Real widowmakers.
Had a full power TLS. Mental engine.
I have a 97' TLS only 10k miles, Power Commander, TRE, Airbox mod, etc. \m/
Maybe the actual steering damper needs servicing? Had the same sort of thing on my old 996 sps. Chased My tail trying to sort a similar feeling you described on this bimota. I ended up removing the damper and riding the sps hey presto. Ended up having the damper serviced, problem solved.
Lots of great information that isnt "waffling" thanks Jim!
I love the paioli forks.
The tickover on my SV1000 is fine. You're right about this setup not liking big handfuls of throttle at low RPM but I just ride around it by not blipping on change downs when the revs have dropped too low. I did have a misfire a while back, which turned out to be an HT lead that had gone green with corrosion. No bother with stalling after new {eBay low mileage !} coils were fitted. The sudden engine cutouts prior to that were potentially very dangerous indeed and having a big jug suddenly chiming in again wasn't much fun either.
What a bike. Also I love your off topic diversions, fascinating to hear/learn stuff from someone who knows what they’re doing 😎🔧👍🏻
FWIW, what you have there is an SB8R Speziale. There were a few detail changes (rearsets, indicators) but the base bikes were otherwise identical. They had different paint schemes but both had carbon bodywork. Those wheels aren’t stock-they were the same Anterra wheels the standard model had-your customer is much better off for them too, the Bimota factory wheels are quite heavy.
One of Suzuki's masterpieces.....superb road motor....I have one in a 748 SP chassis....great engine....and that Bimota chassis takes it to another level....Lovely.
you should post a video about that bike man!
Bimota won a round of the WSB with their racing version of this bike. I have the same engine in a Cagiva Raptor 1000, tuned for torque and what a magnificent engine...
i have 1997 TL1000S, currently waiting for a front injector as ive been having issues. But yes, same thing, she doesnt like slow and doesnt like the throttle being barely cracked, its off the throttle or a good 1/8th of a turn. SHE DOES LOVE A FISTFUL THOUGH!
Thanks Jim, great video and very interesting…
It's a treat to follow your work,.it's a bit different from when I worked as a mechanic at a dealership 👍👍😊😊
You obviously know your stuff and are happy to share what you know.
For me you going into detail about a subject is not Waffling on. 😀
I know it's an old video, but wow what a piece of art
No need to apologise for the waffle. I love it, learn so much from it and it shows your knowledge and passion. Another slice of waffle please!
First press of the starter!!! Nice work.
Great video, was listening intensely to your very accurate explanation of early Japanese fuel injection technology. What are your thoughts or experience on injection/fuel system treatments like "redex" etc. 👍
Bought a 2000 Ducati 853, was really unhappy off idle sneezing lean condition, found that the TPS was set really tight, loosed up the settings with ohm meter, like magic she smooth now....
Great work Jim. 👍
Would have loved to have seen the tyres and chain change but understand the time constraints you’re under.Always wondered what a Power Commander did. Thanks for a great, informative video again.👍
Good work. Good explanation of Power commander . i use the bilt hamber stuff for car and bike, best stuff by far, now foam in a pressure sprayer on the bike, the new Touchless formula is better at rinsing with low pressure water than before. Sufex HD is amazing when used HOT. Thought you may have used a bit of injector cleaner in the fuel for a bit to try and clean. Assume you use V-power petrol or similar in the bikes. Have found running stabiliser in fuel all season helps start as the bandit and Z500 sometime sit a week or 2 not used. Regards
Wow! What a bike and what a surprise to see a thumbnail of the Superbike Surgery appear on screen. Haven’t seen you for an age, but don’t want to go down a rabbit hole 😂 hope your investment in the injector tool proves profitable 👍👌👏
Hi Jim, I'm having a very similar story with my SB8RS. I've bought that bike half year ago and it only ran 1800km till now.
We were running the bike now on a dyno,because the behaviour especially between 2000 -5000 rpm was a pure disaster.
Did you manage to read out the ECU directly? From what I understand,the tables/data you're showing,those are from the Power Commander,or?
The diagnostic connector should be the one close to the ECU with 5 wires,or?
BH is good stuff with a detail brush, you can buy hand foaming head to put on bike.
Ph shampoo...wax the bike plus carbon with fk1000p which is a wax seal plus rims.
We machine polish plus spray ceramic.
Great bike Jim.
Sounded just like my TL1000S on first startup.. normally on one, then onto two ;-)
But we're here for your rabbit holes and OCD!
*Edit* Waffle, too.
I love the waffling. "Waffle On, Waffle Off".
Maybe one injector is sticking slightly and after a couple of hundred miles might flush itelf through, sometimes when larger twins have a poor spray pattern they run very lumpy at idle and lower revs due to poor atomization, whilst at higher revs the motor can cope with the extra fuel and burn it off better.
Someones waffle is 100 % better then most talk on yt
Great vid. Rare bike! Did you get to the tps ? I know it's not the same but on my VTR adjusting the tps made a huge difference to low speed running
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Its a sb8rs, the sb8r also has the same carbon so it isn't a carbon edition, the footpeg hangers differ from the r model, and the rs is all black.❤
I was going to comment, but of course you beat me to it! No such thing as a carbon edition, but enjoyed the video!!
What model of injector?, I think the SB8R used Marelli, didn't it? - I have two new, old stock red marelli IW724 side-feed injectors sitting on my desk right now, just not sure if they are the right model for you.
Great video, thanks for posting. Seems like a waste of time doing anything to that bike without knowing the injectors are clean though!
Plus one for bilt hamber 👌
Weldtite TF2 is better than GT 85 IMHO
Rare bike!!! Very nice.
All the best bits of the TLR/ the engine. 😅
had a 2022 ducati 900ss. also horrible under 40mph. sublime 50 +.
2002😂
To be honest you're doing a great job of keeping the way you explain what you're doing easily understood fo
r me but I'll admit that I've been a class 8 truck grease monkey 😂 for close to 21 years now but I started riding 2 wheels at 3 years old never really stopped playing with 2 or 4 wheelers atv and motorcycle my current motorcycle is a 98 XLR 650
Great video. I'm not from Britain but Is that like a 100,000 pound bike? It seems super special.
Not that much, but it's definitely north of 20k in this condition.
Im a great fan of gt85...so much better than wd40 and a great smell to boot..
Try swapping the wiring on the fuel injectors around! 😂
Id be thinking theres a dirty connector somewhere and the fact that the tps isnt showing on the pc would be the starting point ... too much sitting about , although the injectors would niggle in the back of my hear too ,,,, maybe someone could lend you the adapter for a few days to test them.
Interesting that on the PCIII the TPS signal works when engine off but not when running/hot.
Maybe a firmware update on the PCIII could help. I usually remove them to get it out the equation.
Regarding the injectors why not simply sending them to a shop whose got the right equipment?
It goes against the grain paying other people to do work I can do myself. Also, don't trust other people to do a proper job. I've since purchased the adapter for my machine, so now I have the capability 👍
O2 sensor only measures front cylinder. PCIII has throttle 0-100 reset function. Like your videos, "stop waffling" lol.
Is that the model Anthony gobert won around of world superbikes? Friend has a yb 4 and a DB one
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Im sure you can recalibrate the tps in the pclll settings,,,, if thats not right, wont the map be out of sync ??
Ive never owned a fuel injected bike so this was interesting and informative ive got a 1982 1000 cc Iron head sportster and 1999 900 FireBlade RRS I don' t like anything you have to plug into a computer lol. Great channel but needs more swearing, definitely not enough effing eff's
Some friends that own the local Ducati/Triumph shop used to own a Bimota franchise and got one of these in. They had it for about a year and a half before they sold it to someone in California over the internet. Beautiful bike but was too pricey for our area. I always listed over this bike. Way out of my income.
Might need the top nut on stem loosening a tad?
14:00 (ish) If there's no waffling, I'm going to cancel my subscription. Thanks for sharing!
Charge the tool to the client. Let them know first to see if theyre happy with it but for those reasons youve just mentioned (you'll never use it again) I'm sure they will understand
Have you ever actually tried to do that? The only way that'll work is if they get to take the tool home with them once the job's complete, and even then, customers generally aren't keen on having a few hundred quid's worth of tool sat about that they can't use!😂
That speedo going to 300 mph is a bit optimistic \m/
I’ve got a r1 4xv I suppose to had the carbs cleaned last year after getting it back I rode it home and seemed to be using a lot of fuel.
Any way I put the bike away for winter and thought nothing else of it went to go on it a few weeks ago and I could smell petrol further to this I took the tank etc and noticed petrol peeing out by the bowls.
I’ve brought a seal kit etc but I need to get the carbs off could you tell me how easy are these carbs to get off plz.
I do most of the repairs on my cars and van so I’m not scared using a spanner but the carbs seem a right pain to get in to
It's like anything, if you have done it before. It's easy. That said, it's not a particularly difficult one.
It's a Great looking bike. It's just such a shame that it just isn't used
If driven hard . Would the over fueling at low speed be for cooling ??
50 percent talk and 50 percent saying "I dont want to waffle on, I domt want t get into that, I dont want to go down thr rabbit hole.
Bimota were notorious for sending bikes out the door that ran much less well than the original Engined bike ran. On their carb bikes they often used to fit bigger carbs but not set them up properly.
Yep! They put extra large throttle bodies and a special ECU… they should’ve stuck with the Suzuki parts.
looks abit silly to have that engine cover saying suzuki:D i would have replaced it.
Why? It's a Suzuki engine. This is part of the Bimota philosophy. Custom built frames with main stream manufactured engines.
You can add a rust inhibitor to any foam gun mix ..... Most folk have one form or another under their sink . Google rust inhibitors .