@@j.reveille6815 Not really. They had some outside musicians do strings and horns and such on some songs, but primarly played their own instruments. Songwriting was done by Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison not a corporation.
Ian Curtis looked so ethereal at the Apollo, the way he moves in and out of shadow like a ghost, dancing with fury and without restraint. His life was so short but he left a great influence in his writing and stage presence
@@jamesvickers5998 he was allergic to the sun. Whenever it hit him he’d break out in hives and rashes. In that respect it was a good thing he lived in England
Though I've seen this before, though I've had the VHS tape for decades, this is actually the first time I've had confirmation that the 'Love will Tear Us Apart' played here was taken from the Saturday night performance. That was the one I was at, the second and last time I saw Joy Division play live. Somewhere in the dark outside the screen I am there, hearing my favourite song of all time for the first time, in awe at the discovery I'm making.There then and there now, and overwhelmed twice over, tears on my face at the memory still being alive.
Amazing feelings you've shared, I totally understand. And what luck to have lived through these times and hold such incredible memories!! I believe I saw this (or some other) bootleg VHS around 1983 and was completely mesmerized. Still retain that feeling every time I watch this. Legendary artists. Best to you from Los Angeles!
@@cynthiaopsahl3422 Thanks! It is a wonder of my life that, despite not living in Manchester when they were active, I actually saw Joy Division live twice.
These 1979 versions of LWTUA before Barney got the ARP Omni sound so awful - the keyboard they used sounded like a kiddies' toy. What a difference a real string synth made to their sound.
@@snottersofsnot8644 To you, maybe. But that was the LWTUA I first heard, at the Apollo, on Peely's session, the 7 and 12" singles. That's the sound that captured me. Sometimes what's first is best, even when it isn't.
Hard to imagine that such a freaky old-soul was gone by the age of 23, when most people have accomplished little more than a college degree or their first decent job. He changed the entire course of music history and then was gone.
Here is a quote from the LinkedIn article, "How to remember Ian Curtis" by Paul Fisher, "Most people are making the best of what they have and sometimes they can't cope and simple surmountable problems can become life threatening ones. People in your workplace right now may be going through what Ian Curtis was. They don’t need to "pull themselves together", they help and support."
@@LSUOdyssey Maybe just the history of alternative rock, which is all I know about. Or maybe I'm thinking of Bauhaus or the Cure or somebody. Nevermind.
@@OsoMarcol today we had a milllions of new bands , to much actually , thats why most of them don't get to much fame , back then it was more difficult to make a album for what i know
I still have the VHS of this concert. I bought it in 1982 to a seller from Germany. It was unofficial. Until Ian's death, a few people saw them on stage. I was so moved to see them live for the first time. Joy Division was not as popular as today.
@@Glint396 They used to record next to my Dads shop in Rochdale, I would see them having a fag and a cup of tea around the back of the studio, I had no idea who they were. A bit weird I was 11, 12, 13 and then later New Order were around too. I remember listening to the first album driving around Manchester by my Dad and his mates, sat in the back seat, just absolutely loving this music.
I saw this for the first time on a video cassette Factory put out called “Here Are The Young Men” when I was in high school in the late 1980s. I couldn’t get enough of Joy Division then and I still can’t now. My favorite band of all time.
I spent my young years in Manchester. I developed Epilepsy after moving to the US at a young age. My brother unfortunately took his life a few years ago. I have a lot in common with Ian Curtis. I also have the utmost and absolute love and adoration for the band that is Joy Division first and foremost.
I discovered Joy Division when I was 13. They had an effect on me like no other band has had since, and I still listen to them to this day, 45 years later. I always remember that Anton Corbyn photo in the back of The Face, and the sad announcement of Ian Curtis’ death in NME soon after- a black front cover page with a respectfully small photo of Ian. What an immense legend Joy Division left behind. What an inspiration. Truly unique. RIP Ian Curtis, and thanks Joy Division
@@demo3456pretty fallacious to imply that they only had interest/this much interest because ian died. they're all fantastic musicians who made great music with and without ian(new order).
How Ian Curtis expresses himself through his dancing is how it makes me feel when I listen to them! A truly unique and special front Man who will always be remembered as a legend and ground breaker!! Lost to us far far to soon! R.i.p. Ian Curtis you insane genius!😥👍👌👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Extraordinary. Glad that this concert has been posted. What the film doesn't show is how the audience would dance from the first bar of their set. Their shows were celebratory and uplifting which was the biggest surprise at the gigs I saw at Electric Ballroom and ULU. A unique band and such attitude.
One of the best bands of all time. It hurts to know how much pain Ian was in. I’m glad the band continued on together. I hope that wherever he is, Ian can see that even 40 years after his death he and jd’s music is still being celebrated. New Dawn fades has gotten me through some of the darkest days of my life.
Brings back memories... I saw them earlier that week at King George’s Hall, Blackburn and you knew that you were experiencing something special. The intensity was palpable.
I agree - I'd seen them for the first time the month before at Futurama in Leeds, and they were the standout band on a lengthy bill with many better-known acts. To 'The Dude''s question, I can remember a feeling that this band were like nothing else at the time - very little in the way of direct appeal or audience communication, but neither was anything 'posed' and they somehow commanded your attention. I bought their album almost immediately after seeing them, and there was certainly no way back. This recording is the best live footage I've seenapart from TV appearances, and while I feel very blessed to have seen the band live when I did (3 times in all), this recording is so tenable compared to such distant memories + it's just beautiful that it has come to be available.
@@UKAlanR Really appreciate your post Alan. I've been looking for any kind of live recording I can of Joy Division, and worried that most of the uploads I could find were basically studio recordings. I can already tell that this is what I am looking for 4:17 minutes in.
@@tikrit3160 I don't think I've seen footage of Ian playing the guitar prat on LWTUA anywhere else........that alone is marks this as a brilliant artifact
Wow, all these years and this is the first footage I've ever seen of them. Pretty cool. I was a big Zeppelin fan and not so much Joy Division's contemporaries, but liked Joy Division immediately. They paint pictures with sound.
Guarantee, had you been alive in October 1979 in Manchester, you would've been into Jackson Browne and would've wondered who those heathens were making that suicide racket 😂😂😂 making a joke about how NOW they're loved and said to be influential etc, but in 1979....
When i was 12 years old i was listening to Joy Division Tapes non-stop for hours and hours, what felt like days, while playing computer games. One of the strongest and spaciest emotions in my life.
I have this on videotape and watched this about 20 years ago... before the RUclips and the Internet were what they are today... I've just rewatched it... thought I'd just watch one song and I've ended up watching pretty much all of it! They were a force of nature, so very, very good. The best. Anyway fellow obsessives, I remember I spotted this when I first watched it but had no-one to ask. It looks like barney is playing the bass during Sound of Music. It looks like he is sat down playing the rickenbacker What does anyone else think? I always think the musicianship sometimes gets overlooked. But if that's hooky playing the guitar lines for sound of music that's pretty impressive! There are harmonics at the start during sound of music, which aren't easy, especially live and The staccato, thrashing, chopping rhythm sounds exactly like what Bernard does. I've looked at the sat down figure and I'm sure that's Bernard playing the bass lines. The sat down figure gives the bass to a tech at the end of sound of music and he's dressed with a short sleeved white shirt and tie like barney is for the following song Colony. For Colony Bernard is back playing the sg guitar and the bearded hooky is back on the rickenbacker. I spotted this 20 odd years ago and had no-one I could ask! I wondered if the bass line for sound of music was tricky for hooky or if they were just messing about! I can't imagine hooky being phased by any of the basslines…unless it's because he's singing the backing vocals at the same time. While Ian sings ‘love, life, makes you feel higher’, hooky sings higher, higher, higher progressively faster like it is on the record… That's another thing you don't necessarily appreciate, how good hooky's backing vocals are…which they are. I've tried playing bass and singing before and it's very difficult especially when the bass lines are precise, impossible for me. Really difficult. Anyway I could never find any reference to it before and I've read pretty much all you can on joy division. So just wondered if there are any fellow obsessives who know the answer.
Sound of music is at 21:40. In a GQ article from 2020 'How Joy Division made Closer', Stephen Morris describes Bernard and Hooky swapping instruments for the recording of Atrocity Exhibition which is a more demanding song I think, so hooky obviously has the skills. This information wasn't available 20 years ago. I've never heard reference to and didn't realise they would swap whilst playing live.
I´m guessing this was the tour where they supported the Buzzcocks. I saw them around this time. I will always remember having a beer in the bar with my mates when the support started up - couldn´t believe who it was...dropped my beer and ran, whooping and hollering!
Joy Division what a band, just timeless, Ian Curtis dancing, noone could get away with that...what a legend he was and still is. Love Will Tear us Apart will always be my all time favourite 💖
This band had a sound that had ambitions far above their instrumentation or genre and what's more, they often reached those ambitions. Ian Curtis, Presente!
Not that it matters but why is Joy Division not in the rock and roll hall of fame. Unknown Pleasures is probably the most influential album ever for the alternative music scene and other scenes as well. Just a shame. I always get excited when i see someone wearing a joy division t shirt or button. Reminds me that there are still cool people out there.
Totally agree. You can hear their influence in basically every major alt band that came up after them. Anyone that groundbreaking should be in. Hell ask any famous alt rock member what they think. I promise you to the person they'd say JD.
Michael...where have you been for the last 40+ yrs. Wake up mate and listen to all the recordings available. Not enough I know but what is this shitty rock and roll hall of fame you are talking about? Have you actually listened to their 2 LPs?
They may have only had 2 albums but look how of those songs have been remade from nin dead souls to moby new dawn fades. Not bad for a band from a different country with only 2 albums and only together for a couple years.
This is so good / I was 14 in 1992 when they showed reruns of them on Granada Tv . I was hooked after that. I feel it’s only since the movie “Control” that they became a more mainstream concern . But sometimes it takes time for people to realise how great groups like this are .
I saw Joy Division on this tour at Guildford Civic Hall and they were immense. I seem to remember thinking it was incredibly brave of Buzzcocks to have them opening.
The way Curtis dances to me shows a lot of pent up energy in what seemed to be a very soft spoken man. What I love about Ian's lyrics and the bands song writing ability is that in songs say Colony, Dead Souls, Day of the Lords, Wilderness, She's Lost Control, etc is that they have they build up with each verse and in the end explodes in a loud noise that radiates the rawness of Joy Division and especially Ian Curtis. I've noticed that his dancing really radiates of the songs he plays and especially those build ups like when he sings the line "Dear God and his wisdom took you by the hand, dear god and his wisdom made you understand." in Colony or "They had tears in their eyes, tears in there eyes" in Wilderness. He just explodes into a dancing frenzy. I love that about this band. It shows the complete rawness of the bands energy. R.I.P Ian Curtis.
00:00 Intro - Saturday show - 27th of October 1979 - 00:05 Soundcheck (From Safety to Where) 01:54 Dead Souls 07:33 Wilderness 10:24 Love Will Tear Us Apart 14:09 Shadowplay 17:46 She's Lost Control - Sunday show - 28th of October 1979 - 21:40 The Sound of Music 26:32 Colony 30:27 Day of the Lords 34:58 Walked in Line 37:30 I Remember Nothing 46:32 Transmission (Encore)
Wow. I expect the AI render took days of processing, but what a result. It looks more like US TV footage of the same era now, instead of the blurry flat mess it was originally. Superb.
Hooky talked about this in a podcast I listened to a while back. Apparently they’d play riders on the storm occasionally in sets. Wish some recording of it would surface
This band changed my outlook on life at the age of 15. Too me the greatest band of all. So many bands today would not be here if it wasn’t for this incredible band. They were so young at the time,and as for Ian….the best frontman Ever. Poor lad was suffering from things at that time they didnt know how to address. To be honest I’m glad they never made it to USA . I miss Ian Curtis so much but he stands “dances “ along.
As someone who was waiting for them to play 3 shows in Los Angeles in June of 1980, I can’t understand why anyone would say “I’m glad they never made it to [the] USA.”
I only got into this band after finding out Peter Hook was playing in my city last year. I listened to Unknown Pleasures and Closer to get ready for the concert and was astonished. This music gets me up and dancing, makes me angry, scared, ecstatic, hopeful. There's no other band like this.
Flippin eck,brilliant clear footage. Saw them at The Ajanta in Derby. Also with Buzzcocks at The Assembly Rooms Derby. The Ajanta was great. They Jammed with Section 25.
It’s all a matter of personal taste. If I think they were the best group in history, then they were….If I think they were the worst, then they were. I think they were one of the best groups in history, so they were.
@@qcsorter4626 Important music make you feel it's the best ever when you're listening in. It's like a revelation. One band can be the best. Of course you can feel it for thousand bands! It's the paradox. But the feeling is real and it can change your life. It's difference between important bands and others
@@Tib_Padlock every time i hear Ian Curtis I feel that all the songs, all, are good. And maybe could be the best song ever. Like Insight. And then Lord of the Days. And suddenly the same song but in concert are more and more and more better. Joy Division is amazing. If you know better groups, congratulation. I love Joy Division. I miss so much Ian Curtis.
First time ive seen this, im just glad someone filmed this amazing piece of history. It could have been Brian Nicholson who filmed it ? He made a lot of videos for factory records, Ikon .
thank you so much for the time, love and effort put into this restoration. as someone who listens to them on a daily basis, i can't thank you enough. now...if you could find a decent version of ceremony i'd send cash.
I was a 19 year old American anticipating their American tour, but just before they came Ian cut it short. His song, she's lost control was about a girl that came to his office where he worked, he'd place challenged people for jobs, but she had a fit in his office and he thought he was going to end up like her, that's the song, he was also torn by love with his wife and a gf, like many of us can relate. RIP Ian.
my good friend has the actual tape and i watched it for the first time that night and this first song's long intro coupled with ian's dance moves just moved me so much. dead souls is just a great song and a great title too.
Thanks for putting this on RUclips. I've been a fan of Joy Division since I was a kid but this video made me realise their art is better live. An amazing performance, totally spellbinding, like the best art. Thank you.
Genuinely the greatest band I’ve never had the pleasure of seeing in person. I discovered Joy Division about three months ago (through The Crow: James O’Bannon, there is not a single thing I could do in this life to repay you.) I’ve struggled a lot, with a plethora of medications to counteract whatever the hell I’m dealing with (they still don’t know what it is, it’s extremely frustrating as I feel like I’m getting worse, and I’ve been off and on different meds for the last 4 months now.) I have a temper and depression. I’ve had people I absolutely love to death and actually care about tell me that I scare them. Now I don’t know about the rest of you, but for me there’s genuinely nothing worse in this world than hearing someone you love telling you that you scare them, I promise you. Unfortunately, this dude happen, and it’s completely my own fault. I really cannot express just how much Joy Division, the rest of the band members, and of course 300% Ian Curtis, has helped me to keep going. I genuinely cannot think of a single person on this planet that I wish I could go back to and just have a conversation with more than Ian Curtis.
This is what happens when every member of the band is a genius. It rarely happens.
Best comment 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻
Only other groups I can think of are the Beatles and the Who in terms of sheer individual brilliance
@@mod6462 the Beatles were a corporation of songwriters and outside musicians
@@j.reveille6815 Not really. They had some outside musicians do strings and horns and such on some songs, but primarly played their own instruments. Songwriting was done by Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison not a corporation.
@@Fantod69 nope. Check out Mike Williams sage of quay page. Probably 50 songwriters..
Ian Curtis looked so ethereal at the Apollo, the way he moves in and out of shadow like a ghost, dancing with fury and without restraint. His life was so short but he left a great influence in his writing and stage presence
Hmmmm I’d have said in need of some sun and a better diet like 97% of the UK in 1979. Good poet though.
@@jamesvickers5998 he was allergic to the sun. Whenever it hit him he’d break out in hives and rashes. In that respect it was a good thing he lived in England
Well said
The Sound And The Fury
you're right @@amazingpeopleamazingstorie29
No backing tracks or lip sync. Just real music. And wayyyy better than 99% of todays music
Jamais vu un truc pareil . Ça va parfaitement avec le chaos mental qui me sert d'âme aujourd'hui. En 2024 .
A random comment on the official Joy Division RUclips brought me here. Whoever you are dude, Thank you. 🖤
I was too young to see them live so this stuff is priceless
The drummer Stephen Morris is the real heart of the band. Brilliant, original drummer, a huge part of the sound , like Bonham or Moon..
Totally agree.
Except better
I don’t go round being a bell end in the comments as a rule but the guys a machine
@@moosemoss2645 I'm a stalwart but 2nd. you on that.
@@moosemoss2645 took his lead from Liebezeit in Can and provides a similar, mechanistic bedrock to the JD sound.
Tha drummer on this is UNREAL
Stephen Morris!
Steve "the human drum machine" Morris
He actually looks like a robot
ON FUKN FIRE! 🔥🖤🔥
I saw them support Rich Kids at Erics Liverpool think it was July 78, fantastic, and also a great memory of chatting too Ian Curtis afterwards
The best band ever.
tottaly agreee with you
you kidding
@@marxvenom3766?
@@marxvenom3766 your a big joke
@@randomatheist4832 you don’t know shit about music
Though I've seen this before, though I've had the VHS tape for decades, this is actually the first time I've had confirmation that the 'Love will Tear Us Apart' played here was taken from the Saturday night performance. That was the one I was at, the second and last time I saw Joy Division play live. Somewhere in the dark outside the screen I am there, hearing my favourite song of all time for the first time, in awe at the discovery I'm making.There then and there now, and overwhelmed twice over, tears on my face at the memory still being alive.
Amazing feelings you've shared, I totally understand. And what luck to have lived through these times and hold such incredible memories!! I believe I saw this (or some other) bootleg VHS around 1983 and was completely mesmerized. Still retain that feeling every time I watch this. Legendary artists. Best to you from Los Angeles!
@@cynthiaopsahl3422 Thanks! It is a wonder of my life that, despite not living in Manchester when they were active, I actually saw Joy Division live twice.
I do have a rare vhs from a JD performance in BXL. Dark, very dark…
These 1979 versions of LWTUA before Barney got the ARP Omni sound so awful - the keyboard they used sounded like a kiddies' toy. What a difference a real string synth made to their sound.
@@snottersofsnot8644 To you, maybe. But that was the LWTUA I first heard, at the Apollo, on Peely's session, the 7 and 12" singles. That's the sound that captured me. Sometimes what's first is best, even when it isn't.
Hard to imagine that such a freaky old-soul was gone by the age of 23, when most people have accomplished little more than a college degree or their first decent job. He changed the entire course of music history and then was gone.
Like a boss
Here is a quote from the LinkedIn article, "How to remember Ian Curtis" by Paul Fisher, "Most people are making the best of what they have and sometimes they can't cope and simple surmountable problems can become life threatening ones. People in your workplace right now may be going through what Ian Curtis was. They don’t need to "pull themselves together", they help and support."
The ENTIRE course of music history???
@@LSUOdyssey Maybe just the history of alternative rock, which is all I know about. Or maybe I'm thinking of Bauhaus or the Cure or somebody. Nevermind.
So hard to comprehend this sound existed in 1979.
There were much more interesting things happening in 1979 than today. Believe me ‘cause I was there. I recall that year so bloody well.
@@OsoMarcol today we had a milllions of new bands , to much actually , thats why most of them don't get to much fame , back then it was more difficult to make a album for what i know
So stark compared to the headlining act - The Buzzcocks! I love this crazy contrast though - and the Buzzcocks weren't necessarily a *light* band.
Only if your 12
True. Fun fact: Kurt Cobain said in a interview that he refuse to listen to joy division because he knew he would like it too much.
Timeless band. Curtis's early demise created a legendary status that remains to this day.
They will always be legends.
I still have the VHS of this concert. I bought it in 1982 to a seller from Germany. It was unofficial. Until Ian's death, a few people saw them on stage. I was so moved to see them live for the first time. Joy Division was not as popular as today.
I was introduced to them by a friend in neighbourhood in 1988. Very few people had heard of them at school.
@@jumofi introduced as in you met them or you found their music?
They seem to be getting more popular as time goes on
Yeah… around 88/89,
street vendor on st marks place along with audio cassette of live
@@Glint396 They used to record next to my Dads shop in Rochdale, I would see them having a fag and a cup of tea around the back of the studio, I had no idea who they were. A bit weird I was 11, 12, 13 and then later New Order were around too. I remember listening to the first album driving around Manchester by my Dad and his mates, sat in the back seat, just absolutely loving this music.
I saw this for the first time on a video cassette Factory put out called “Here Are The Young Men” when I was in high school in the late 1980s. I couldn’t get enough of Joy Division then and I still can’t now. My favorite band of all time.
Same! The quality sucked but it didn’t matter.
I spent my young years in Manchester. I developed Epilepsy after moving to the US at a young age. My brother unfortunately took his life a few years ago. I have a lot in common with Ian Curtis.
I also have the utmost and absolute love and adoration for the band that is Joy Division first and foremost.
I discovered Joy Division when I was 13. They had an effect on me like no other band has had since, and I still listen to them to this day, 45 years later. I always remember that Anton Corbyn photo in the back of The Face, and the sad announcement of Ian Curtis’ death in NME soon after- a black front cover page with a respectfully small photo of Ian. What an immense legend Joy Division left behind. What an inspiration. Truly unique.
RIP Ian Curtis, and thanks Joy Division
Gives me the absolute chills reading your comment. Most intense and affecting music ever.
Sad there’s not a lot of footage of this amazing band
Not yet wait till ai2 redux Joy Division.
I know great find this
For a band selling 0 records in a super short lifespan there is actually quite a lot of footage
@@torbenraun6959 it is funny how the leader singer "dies" then the band some how becomes this huge thing. I don't know maybe I'm just crazy
@@demo3456pretty fallacious to imply that they only had interest/this much interest because ian died. they're all fantastic musicians who made great music with and without ian(new order).
How Ian Curtis expresses himself through his dancing is how it makes me feel when I listen to them! A truly unique and special front Man who will always be remembered as a legend and ground breaker!! Lost to us far far to soon! R.i.p. Ian Curtis you insane genius!😥👍👌👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I saw that dancing right up close, below him. It rewired me for life.
I saw it. It was like seeing god, truly. I was right up close. It changed everything.
I am currently building a time machine to go back and see them.
Ami igual
Take me to.
take me to
Make the time machine a large bus pls 🙏 😢
Need a bloody big one.
Extraordinary. Glad that this concert has been posted. What the film doesn't show is how the audience would dance from the first bar of their set. Their shows were celebratory and uplifting which was the biggest surprise at the gigs I saw at Electric Ballroom and ULU. A unique band and such attitude.
Absolutely outrageous drumming here
those rolls on Love Will Tear Us Apart are just mental, it’s like he’s playing for his life.
We lived through this period of wonderful music. We were blessed.
One of the best bands of all time. It hurts to know how much pain Ian was in. I’m glad the band continued on together. I hope that wherever he is, Ian can see that even 40 years after his death he and jd’s music is still being celebrated. New Dawn fades has gotten me through some of the darkest days of my life.
This is a masterpiece. Joy Division was fucking amazing. Rest in Peace Ian. You were so incredibly unique and hauntingly beautiful to watch.
Brings back memories... I saw them earlier that week at King George’s Hall, Blackburn and you knew that you were experiencing something special. The intensity was palpable.
Thats awesome! Did you get a chance to exchange some words with these brilliant lads?
But...how?
I agree - I'd seen them for the first time the month before at Futurama in Leeds, and they were the standout band on a lengthy bill with many better-known acts.
To 'The Dude''s question, I can remember a feeling that this band were like nothing else at the time - very little in the way of direct appeal or audience communication, but neither was anything 'posed' and they somehow commanded your attention. I bought their album almost immediately after seeing them, and there was certainly no way back.
This recording is the best live footage I've seenapart from TV appearances, and while I feel very blessed to have seen the band live when I did (3 times in all), this recording is so tenable compared to such distant memories + it's just beautiful that it has come to be available.
@@UKAlanR Really appreciate your post Alan. I've been looking for any kind of live recording I can of Joy Division, and worried that most of the uploads I could find were basically studio recordings. I can already tell that this is what I am looking for 4:17 minutes in.
@@tikrit3160 I don't think I've seen footage of Ian playing the guitar prat on LWTUA anywhere else........that alone is marks this as a brilliant artifact
Bernard’s guitar sounds enormous! 😍
I think wilderness is so underrated the bass line in that extraordinary beautiful
i love that guitar solo!!
Wow, all these years and this is the first footage I've ever seen of them. Pretty cool. I was a big Zeppelin fan and not so much Joy Division's contemporaries, but liked Joy Division immediately. They paint pictures with sound.
one of the top bands of rock and roll, whatever derivative it is, its still rock and roll and its electric
My biggest regret in life is being born too late to see them live. Going to enJOY this!
That's why records like this exist.
Guarantee, had you been alive in October 1979 in Manchester, you would've been into Jackson Browne and would've wondered who those heathens were making that suicide racket 😂😂😂 making a joke about how NOW they're loved and said to be influential etc, but in 1979....
When i was 12 years old i was listening to Joy Division Tapes non-stop for hours and hours, what felt like days, while playing computer games. One of the strongest and spaciest emotions in my life.
I have this on videotape and watched this about 20 years ago... before the RUclips and the Internet were what they are today... I've just rewatched it... thought I'd just watch one song and I've ended up watching pretty much all of it! They were a force of nature, so very, very good. The best. Anyway fellow obsessives, I remember I spotted this when I first watched it but had no-one to ask. It looks like barney is playing the bass during Sound of Music. It looks like he is sat down playing the rickenbacker What does anyone else think?
I always think the musicianship sometimes gets overlooked. But if that's hooky playing the guitar lines for sound of music that's pretty impressive!
There are harmonics at the start during sound of music, which aren't easy, especially live and The staccato, thrashing, chopping rhythm sounds exactly like what Bernard does.
I've looked at the sat down figure and I'm sure that's Bernard playing the bass lines.
The sat down figure gives the bass to a tech at the end of sound of music and he's dressed with a short sleeved white shirt and tie like barney is for the following song Colony. For Colony Bernard is back playing the sg guitar and the bearded hooky is back on the rickenbacker.
I spotted this 20 odd years ago and had no-one I could ask!
I wondered if the bass line for sound of music was tricky for hooky or if they were just messing about! I can't imagine hooky being phased by any of the basslines…unless it's because he's singing the backing vocals at the same time. While Ian sings ‘love, life, makes you feel higher’, hooky sings higher, higher, higher progressively faster like it is on the record…
That's another thing you don't necessarily appreciate, how good hooky's backing vocals are…which they are.
I've tried playing bass and singing before and it's very difficult especially when the bass lines are precise, impossible for me. Really difficult.
Anyway I could never find any reference to it before and I've read pretty much all you can on joy division. So just wondered if there are any fellow obsessives who know the answer.
Sound of music is at 21:40.
In a GQ article from 2020 'How Joy Division made Closer', Stephen Morris describes Bernard and Hooky swapping instruments for the recording of Atrocity Exhibition which is a more demanding song I think, so hooky obviously has the skills. This information wasn't available 20 years ago. I've never heard reference to and didn't realise they would swap whilst playing live.
I´m guessing this was the tour where they supported the Buzzcocks. I saw them around this time. I will always remember having a beer in the bar with my mates when the support started up - couldn´t believe who it was...dropped my beer and ran, whooping and hollering!
Joy Division what a band, just timeless, Ian Curtis dancing, noone could get away with that...what a legend he was and still is. Love Will Tear us Apart will always be my all time favourite 💖
i love the Days Of The Lord performance. You have this sense of feeling of oppression and depression. So raw.
Joy Division los mejores de la historia. Ian Curtis lo más grande de la humanidad!
This band had a sound that had ambitions far above their instrumentation or genre and what's more, they often reached those ambitions. Ian Curtis, Presente!
BINGO. It’s like they’re eight years too early for what they want to convey. Brilliant!!
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Not that it matters but why is Joy Division not in the rock and roll hall of fame. Unknown Pleasures is probably the most influential album ever for the alternative music scene and other scenes as well. Just a shame. I always get excited when i see someone wearing a joy division t shirt or button. Reminds me that there are still cool people out there.
Because the hall is utter bullshit and a commercial endeavour.
Totally agree. You can hear their influence in basically every major alt band that came up after them. Anyone that groundbreaking should be in. Hell ask any famous alt rock member what they think. I promise you to the person they'd say JD.
Michael...where have you been for the last 40+ yrs. Wake up mate and listen to all the recordings available. Not enough I know but what is this shitty rock and roll hall of fame you are talking about? Have you actually listened to their 2 LPs?
Why you interest in that anyway? Just listen the music and enjoy it.
They may have only had 2 albums but look how of those songs have been remade from nin dead souls to moby new dawn fades. Not bad for a band from a different country with only 2 albums and only together for a couple years.
there is no such thing as AI remastering but this is the best restoration ive seen of this monumental performance. phenomenal
This is so good / I was 14 in 1992 when they showed reruns of them on Granada Tv . I was hooked after that. I feel it’s only since the movie “Control” that they became a more mainstream concern . But sometimes it takes time for people to realise how great groups like this are .
Individually, they are all extremely gifted, the timing is incredible, sounds better than the produced versions of their songs.
good to know they had passionate fans back then too, the crowd is amazing
I saw Joy Division on this tour at Guildford Civic Hall and they were immense. I seem to remember thinking it was incredibly brave of Buzzcocks to have them opening.
Never knew this existed, the only filmed full show that I know of.
The way Curtis dances to me shows a lot of pent up energy in what seemed to be a very soft spoken man.
What I love about Ian's lyrics and the bands song writing ability is that in songs say Colony, Dead Souls, Day of the Lords, Wilderness, She's Lost Control, etc is that they have they build up with each verse and in the end explodes in a loud noise that radiates the rawness of Joy Division and especially Ian Curtis. I've noticed that his dancing really radiates of the songs he plays and especially those build ups like when he sings the line "Dear God and his wisdom took you by the hand, dear god and his wisdom made you understand." in Colony or "They had tears in their eyes, tears in there eyes" in Wilderness. He just explodes into a dancing frenzy. I love that about this band. It shows the complete rawness of the bands energy. R.I.P Ian Curtis.
what a band!! sound of music is a masterpiece...
Wilderness absolutely fucking slaps live
IT DO!!
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00:00 Intro
- Saturday show - 27th of October 1979 -
00:05 Soundcheck (From Safety to Where)
01:54 Dead Souls
07:33 Wilderness
10:24 Love Will Tear Us Apart
14:09 Shadowplay
17:46 She's Lost Control
- Sunday show - 28th of October 1979 -
21:40 The Sound of Music
26:32 Colony
30:27 Day of the Lords
34:58 Walked in Line
37:30 I Remember Nothing
46:32 Transmission (Encore)
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Wow. I expect the AI render took days of processing, but what a result. It looks more like US TV footage of the same era now, instead of the blurry flat mess it was originally. Superb.
I hear a lot of The Doors echoing in the spreading waves of that beautifully unearthly, ruthlessly unnerving sound.
I was just thinking the same thing.
Hooky talked about this in a podcast I listened to a while back. Apparently they’d play riders on the storm occasionally in sets. Wish some recording of it would surface
This is true; apparently Jim Morrison and the Doors were a big inspiration for the band, Ian especially
Stooges too!
Bit of Stranglers too.
This is so great. Finally i can see Ian face. Thanks for your work
so black metal and post punk? I like your style dude
@@santyricon thank you. I don't like limit myself to only one genre
@@Euronymous3721 of course, that's what I always try to do
Are you into psy trance? Lol
@@santyricon not really. I've listened to this few years ago but it's not my favourite genre
I was 23 years old ... the music then was incredible..
Ian Curtis & Joy Division vivirán por siempre!!
This band changed my outlook on life at the age of 15. Too me the greatest band of all. So many bands today would not be here if it wasn’t for this incredible band. They were so young at the time,and as for Ian….the best frontman Ever. Poor lad was suffering from things at that time they didnt know how to address. To be honest I’m glad they never made it to USA . I miss Ian Curtis so much but he stands “dances “ along.
As someone who was waiting for them to play 3 shows in Los Angeles in June of 1980, I can’t understand why anyone would say “I’m glad they never made it to [the] USA.”
Thanks to the people recording this stuff live ❤ because this is the only REAL JOY DIVISION THAT EXISTS!!❤REst in POWER IAN!!!
YEAH!!!!
Best band ever! Forever Joy Division!
*Wilderness* is now my new fave.
I only got into this band after finding out Peter Hook was playing in my city last year. I listened to Unknown Pleasures and Closer to get ready for the concert and was astonished. This music gets me up and dancing, makes me angry, scared, ecstatic, hopeful. There's no other band like this.
This sound was the Other to me when I first heard Joy Division on Christmas Day, 1979. Still has power.
Just the best in so many ways. Real musicians with a UNIQUE sound. Just remarkable. Tragic also.
[I Remember Nothing. Day Of The Lords. Colony.]
Searingly bleak.
Devastation.
A soul scream.
While the flesh remains intact.
Algun dia existira una máquina del tiempo y les prometo que iremos a esa fecha.!!¡!!
Flippin eck,brilliant clear footage. Saw them at The Ajanta in Derby. Also with Buzzcocks at The Assembly Rooms Derby. The Ajanta was great. They Jammed with Section 25.
One of a kind! Only vocalist that’s never been replicated
Shannon Hoon was never replicated
My brother bought me this VHS video for Christmas years ago can’t remember how many times I’ll played it
Probably the Best Group in History, Best singer, Best concert ever in music. Long live to Ian Curtis and Joy Division.
No they weren't. Wish people would stop making stupid claims like this. They were a good group (as were lots of others) with a tragic lead singer.
@@qcsorter4626 No they were not. Why not?
Joy Division is the best group ever.
It’s all a matter of personal taste. If I think they were the best group in history, then they were….If I think they were the worst, then they were. I think they were one of the best groups in history, so they were.
@@qcsorter4626 Important music make you feel it's the best ever when you're listening in. It's like a revelation. One band can be the best. Of course you can feel it for thousand bands! It's the paradox. But the feeling is real and it can change your life. It's difference between important bands and others
@@Tib_Padlock every time i hear Ian Curtis I feel that all the songs, all, are good. And maybe could be the best song ever. Like Insight. And then Lord of the Days. And suddenly the same song but in concert are more and more and more better. Joy Division is amazing. If you know better groups, congratulation. I love Joy Division. I miss so much Ian Curtis.
33:31 I love Bernard's solo but I wish the camera would've stayed on Ian, it's like he went full James Brown.
Remember being wowed watching them at West Runton Pavilion, Norfolk, supposedly support for the Buzzcocks.........wonderful memories!
Man, how I wish I could go back in time and be there. Thank you so much!
Amazingly tight performance. Great drumming.
Eerie yet Brilliant, great to see Ian’s moves again. Thanks for the play.
First time ive seen this, im just glad someone filmed this amazing piece of history. It could have been Brian Nicholson who filmed it ? He made a lot of videos for factory records, Ikon .
thank you so much for the time, love and effort put into this restoration. as someone who listens to them on a daily basis, i can't thank you enough. now...if you could find a decent version of ceremony i'd send cash.
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I was a 19 year old American anticipating their American tour, but just before they came Ian cut it short. His song, she's lost control was about a girl that came to his office where he worked, he'd place challenged people for jobs, but she had a fit in his office and he thought he was going to end up like her, that's the song, he was also torn by love with his wife and a gf, like many of us can relate. RIP Ian.
This band is the fucking thing we all wanted to be , if we knew it or not
my good friend has the actual tape and i watched it for the first time that night and this first song's long intro coupled with ian's dance moves just moved me so much. dead souls is just a great song and a great title too.
This is everything
Absolutely amazing video. So cool to see this
Just brilliant as always
Joy Division é uma banda carregada, mas é incrível e única. e a cada ano que passa as musicas envelhecem como vinho.
I fucking love the quality, amazing
Love wlil tear us apart. One of the greatest.
The AI upscaling really compliments the footage (artifacts and all). Love it.
Wow..I see a great deal of Jim Morrison in Ian Curtis. Like a punky version of the Doors combined with the UK Subs...
The Doors combined with the Stooges or the Velvet. This combination made by JD will create many bands like UK Subs.
This is amazing! Thank you for sharing this.
What a wonderful performance.
Thanks for sharing this amazing presentation.
They were so incredible in the stage.
Thanks for putting this on RUclips. I've been a fan of Joy Division since I was a kid but this video made me realise their art is better live. An amazing performance, totally spellbinding, like the best art. Thank you.
Historic!
the greatest vocalist, lyricist, and band.
Genuinely the greatest band I’ve never had the pleasure of seeing in person.
I discovered Joy Division about three months ago (through The Crow: James O’Bannon, there is not a single thing I could do in this life to repay you.) I’ve struggled a lot, with a plethora of medications to counteract whatever the hell I’m dealing with (they still don’t know what it is, it’s extremely frustrating as I feel like I’m getting worse, and I’ve been off and on different meds for the last 4 months now.)
I have a temper and depression. I’ve had people I absolutely love to death and actually care about tell me that I scare them.
Now I don’t know about the rest of you, but for me there’s genuinely nothing worse in this world than hearing someone you love telling you that you scare them, I promise you. Unfortunately, this dude happen, and it’s completely my own fault.
I really cannot express just how much Joy Division, the rest of the band members, and of course 300% Ian Curtis, has helped me to keep going. I genuinely cannot think of a single person on this planet that I wish I could go back to and just have a conversation with more than Ian Curtis.
The last Concert at the Apollo was superb, the Buzzcocks where the main act, 2 for the price of one.
VIELEN LIEBEN DANK...FRIEDEN und FREIHEIT...
My boy doubled cheeked up on Saturday night
known this for forty years..fantastic job ..well done..
Sound of Music, fantastic. When the bass comes in. Class recording 👍👍
Omg absolutely amazing I. love you Eternally Ian . 'Absolutely genius.
Many thanks for sharing this treasure. Big.hug from Portugal