Having businesses make products and calling them 'sustainable' simply because they're not plastic is an environmental issue in itself. The fact that this guy has the balls to make the spiel on plastic and not look into the full supply chain of his 'sustainable' product is mental. Green wash. Fair play to Deborah for properly calling him out.
Deborah's interrogation was fantastic. Tired of companies claiming their product is environmentally friendly just because it *isn't* something else without any kind of full lifecycle impact analysis.
I agree but I also think there's a massive difference between paper straws (which come from trees)/have plastic film coating, and pasta straws, seems like they are obviously better for the environment, but yeah he should've definetely researched the differences
I HATED her confrontation. Why did she need to be so violent? And he was answering her questions. He was trying to compare pasta to paper and commented about the degradability, which was the main selling point and reason why most people bought such products. That's the only thing that matters.
Pasta straws are better for the environment than plastic. They are better to use than paper straws (they don’t get soggy). That’s it. Don’t get environmentally ultra about it when it’s an obvious improvement on plastic. Deborah the non-environmentally friendly dragon says I’m out and shove the environment once again.
McDonalds would never use this in a million years. Think how many young kids would bite the straw, now you've got a choking hazard and countless lawsuits
All I could think about is people using the straw with the hot coffee at McDonald's. I can see a few people doing it. It would just make the pasta well ready to eat especially if the coffee is hot enough
Not to mention the are brittle to store and many would break before even reaching the customer. Also I imagine pasta is significantly pricier than plastic, never ever McShit would go with a more expensive option.
@@janefaceinthewind6260 it comes from the 100 years wars with the French (Henry V). The English were known for great archers so the French used to gesture the middle finger representing they have took off the archers arching finger, and the English used to retaliate by putting two fingers up (their arching fingers) to show that they were still in tact and they weren’t defeated. So it’s medieval mud slinging 😂
Once he said he’s generated 9000 pounds over 6 months All I could do was prepare for the worst for him. Why would valuate in the hundreds of thousands (time to finish the vid now lol)
A probable answer whenever we get ridiculous valuations compared to sales/profits, is that they are really only there for the national exposure/free advertising. But that's just my guess, I am after all just a humble seaweed hunter with the best job in the world. No pasta, no sales, no profit. Yours truly, Rory.
@@gilbertdaroy6080 not saying that she’s not good. She’s smart and good with details. Just don’t mess with her ego. Even rejecting her offer can trigger her sometimes.
Who writes these trashy headlines? She absolutely did not interrupt Deborah. She started to speak when she thought Deborah was finished, and got snapped off. Then she stopped immediately and waited for the next pause. You guys need to have more faith in your product instead of resorting to clickbait and pinning posts that just support your false and misleading headline.
Couldn’t agree more bbc are run by over excited left wing student babies who literally only understand social media click bait. Welcome to generation zzzzzzz
I like how CALM and RATIONAL Tej Lalvani in all these. He hates Peter and wary of Deborah. He's not afraid to call out Peter for his rude and bullying tactics, and is respectful of Deborah. Go Tej!
I applaud Debra on the impact question. Who would of ever thought of that? Now I really want to know the impact of plastic verses paper verses styraform for cups, boxes and staws.
Actually, the impact of paper straws is much much higher than that for plastic, in every link of the chain. For paper to be more environmentally friendly, it needs to be reusable; sinlge-use won't cut it.
good on deborah, so many people moving green problems to different supply chains. although intuitively the product would have less impact than plastic, that he didn't know vs. paper shows it's about market opportunity for him more than making a real green solution.
I know! People like to only look at one aspect of environmentalism, e.g. buying fresh, package free produce over frozen to avoid plastic waste without caring about the food waste in the supply chain for fresh veg. Deborah asked some very important questions.
This dude said earlier that he had so many things fixed blah blah blah and once he gets an investment he would simply jist push those buttons. Why he didnt talk about those buttons? Or maybe he did but we don't know. Dragons are greedy as we all know, if they found it to be more of a commercial idea rather than just a good idea, im sure they would jump in. But i agree that this business is gonna cause food waste but also on the other hand, macoroni straws are more environmentally friendly than paper straws because they do in fact offer the fishes or birds some free snacking opportunity.
@@indonesianbangladeshicoupl2227 Yes but Deborah's point was _how_ the pasta is made. If the pollution from the production of the pasta is worse than the pollution of the plastic/straw product's disposal then it's not a greener solution, it's just switching one issue for another; namely, the problem of agricultural pollution.
She didn't even tap into the increased land-use/indirect land-use effect of promoting wheat, the driver for this most likely being grown as a monocrop, let alone the carbon footprint, glyphosate use and increased N fertilisers. I can't believe the gall of these business opportunists attempting to SOLELY capitalise on environmental issues. I can say with 100% confidence, if he truly cared about the environmental impacts of his product he would have had answers to Deborah's questions and more, he would have led with them. M&S with their recent honey bees + farms fiasco are another example of this painful greenwash.
McDonald's put them.in as soon as they give it to you. By the time you get home to drink it, you're sucking and sucking, thucking and thucking harder just to get a drink because the cardboard breaks down.
I was just about to say that, this is such a non-issue when it comes to helping the environment. It's all a distraction from the major pollution caused by key companies, a scapegoat if you will. "I know we're responsible for fishing nets that account for 40% of the ocean's pollution, but look! Paper straws!"
@CT- 0399 i think that is completely different though, as many people (including myself) don't need to use straws, but we do. if those who were able to stopped using straws it'd go a long, long way.
FWIW, there's evidence that drinking soda through a straw is better for your teeth than splashing it straight in there. Of course, that's probably only really relevant if you consume as much soda as the average American...
@@tonidewonderful4187 haha. I don’t like her at all either . She needs to go . Peter needs to go now too - no point in having other Dragons with him in it. Should do a programme called Dragons Den 1 with him and maybe Deborah only . If they don’t want it then Dragons Den 2 where someone pitches to the others
What if somebody buys a normal pasta pack (called ziti lungi / bucatini)? I'm pretty sure they're much cheaper than buying the product in this episode.
I invented a 15mm copper pipe straw . It's great . When you've finished you can either weigh it in for recycling or keep it for repairs if you have a burst pipe at home in winter . . Winner , winner chicken dinner .
The discussion of the environmental impact of sustainable logging for paper straws vs wheat farming for pasta straws would be far too intense for a show like Dragon’s Den, but I do know that tree farming uses far less water and far fewer pesticides. Land usage, water usage, and chemical contamination in runoff are massive issues in agriculture, and those problems are far less significant with well managed logging. I don’t really know much else beyond that though.
What I find interesting Mr. Gelmann took sips of water during his presentation without using his pasta straw. One would think you would try to promote your product with every opportunity.
I don’t care how good the investment opportunity is, I hate when people come in offering 5% or less of their business. Why are you on Dragons Den then?
@@serenacelestine with 50% a Dragon could do a hell of a lot with/for a business though, I wouldn’t bother if I only got 5% _says Fin sat at home with £60 to his name_
If he ever got customer they would abandon it very quickly. Sara bit the straw in the beginning, and I thought that definitely wouldn't be safe for children to drink with. They bite stuff all the time.
1. He should’ve used his “pasta la vista” line in the den (maybe he did and it was edited out). 2. As Deborah said, he needed to check the supply chain for his product, even if that increased costs. 3. Retailers would have just passed on the cost to their consumer. People would just pay even an extra 10p without thought. 4. If you can convince high end cafes/restaurants that paper straws are an inferior product, they would’ve adopted this especially closer to the deadline, out of simplicity.
Call me crazy, but I think it's an interesting idea. I'd like to try one at least once. Not necessarily saying it's a great business, but it's an intriguing product to me.
You haven't tried one? There were a few quirky coffee houses using them for a bit. Think most places have now just switched to metal straws as they can be washed and reused. Or chains use paper for disposable. Is ashame as paper is awful as a straw.
@dormie basne wow. I didn't realise this was a Stateside thing too. I was thinking SouthEast London. Very reassuring. Let's go into business and get in the Den haha
Dragons don't know what they were talking about. This business is now a major success after raising £180k. Clients include the Marriott hotel chains, Ibis, Unilever
We bought straws that are cleaned in the dishwasher admitted they are plastic but we have not bought any straws for over three years they wash well too
In my town here in the USA they banned plastic. All the restaurants have to sell paper ones and they suck. Somebody made a killing making stainless steel reusable ones. I think these pasta straws would be way better than paper disinigrating in your mouth
@@athanasiosp. I do not generally drink water with a straw, no, however he was pitching a product to replace straws but he was not using his own product to drink with. Consciously or subconsciously that is going to communicate to the Dragons a lack of faith in his own product.
@@mrgrimm98 1) I can name a million products and scenarios where someone creates something but literally does not use it. 2) Even if the straws COULD be used to drink his water this makes no sense. Most people in the world do not drink water with a straw, especially with a glass like that, and if you do not use your product, even if you could do it like the straws here, does not pass any negative non-faithful in the idea messages to the dragons. Yeah I make gin with a flavor and I give you some shots to try it while I am drinking water, does that mean that I do not like my gin enough and trust it to succeed and this is then seen and felt by the dragons? Of course not. btw this example is an actual episode
@@athanasiosp. Re Point 1) I get and fully accept that there are many people out there who do not use their own products, however, if my first thought (and from the sound of it @HummDrumm as well) when seeing him drink the water during his pitch for the straws was "Why is he not using one of his own straws?" then we are not going to be the only 2 people who thought that and Re Point 2) your Gin example is a (no pun intended) strawman argument at best as it would be seen as unprofessional to drink alcohol whilst giving a pitch and as such is a completely different scenario to which you could not compare this one.
my brother is actually running a profitable business based on biodegradable straws that he started this year and now has 4 employees. no idea how he can make that little money in 6 months
@@JennsCorner777 their thing is that they market themselves as a local (state wide) brand for now appealing to local restaurants and bars as the "hip drinking straw from our own city". not even sure if they ship internationally yet. they also customize the straws by engraving the bars name. McDonalds can do that themselves, small bars can't so i think this guy just has his priorities wrong
LOVE it when the title of the video reveals the outcome (!). Instead of 'The Sixth Sense' they should have named the movie 'He Was A Ghost The Whole Time After He Got Shot!' and 'Star Wars Episode V The Empire Strikes Back' should be known as 'The Star Wars Movie Where We Learn Darth Vader Is Actually Luke's Father'.
Hey guys, I’m valuing my business at roughly 90x my revenue so far and I’m going to lose 250k in the first year. I don’t know much about my main selling point and everyone’s trying to jump into this market. Who’s ready to invest?
The next time my 96 year old Grandmother is in McDonalds ordering a strawberry 🍓 milkshake, which is often I must tell you. She will ask for a pasta straw. Hahahah, but I didn't tell her that they don't exist there, ahahah. She thought it was a great idea by the way..
It's one thing to give someone advice on the way they should go but it's another to insult them and shoot their dreams down. These dragons must've been served their business opportunities on a silver platter! Smh. I hope he doesn't give up
It is an idea for some restaurants as a gimmick or that cater to adults, but it's so replicable by anyone who wants to do it, and I have seen it done by others. Not only businesses but I myself , if I was a restaurant owner could go and buy some bucatini
Definitely not a business. I’ve seen Pasta straws on restaurants for years now and they’re all locally sourced and made. Literally anyone could do this.
Maxim solves the problem of plastic straws by having several sips of his drink without one.
...by drinking straight outta bottle! EUREKA!
clearly the opportunity here is to start making pasta bottles
3:04 7:42 ... really, he just sips directly from the glass instead of using his straws. I have reusable metal straws I like.
lol great
@@carpii but i think it will break easily if it’s a cup
Having businesses make products and calling them 'sustainable' simply because they're not plastic is an environmental issue in itself. The fact that this guy has the balls to make the spiel on plastic and not look into the full supply chain of his 'sustainable' product is mental. Green wash. Fair play to Deborah for properly calling him out.
Well said !! I was blown away too
There is now regulation for this (green claims code)
@Cee Dub619cameraman is better than when it was new to be fair
Deborah's interrogation was fantastic. Tired of companies claiming their product is environmentally friendly just because it *isn't* something else without any kind of full lifecycle impact analysis.
BUT IT WAS & IS :D hes doing great with 100 % of his company
I agree but I also think there's a massive difference between paper straws (which come from trees)/have plastic film coating, and pasta straws, seems like they are obviously better for the environment, but yeah he should've definetely researched the differences
I HATED her confrontation. Why did she need to be so violent? And he was answering her questions. He was trying to compare pasta to paper and commented about the degradability, which was the main selling point and reason why most people bought such products. That's the only thing that matters.
Pasta straws are better for the environment than plastic. They are better to use than paper straws (they don’t get soggy). That’s it. Don’t get environmentally ultra about it when it’s an obvious improvement on plastic. Deborah the non-environmentally friendly dragon says I’m out and shove the environment once again.
@@jimmorrison8203 what about people who are allergic to wheat
Valuing his business too high was the last straw for Deborah.
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The dragons couldn't see pasta flours of the product!
🤣
Yeah, his business just sucked.
And now his business is worth over 40 million.
McDonalds would never use this in a million years. Think how many young kids would bite the straw, now you've got a choking hazard and countless lawsuits
All I could think about is people using the straw with the hot coffee at McDonald's. I can see a few people doing it. It would just make the pasta well ready to eat especially if the coffee is hot enough
Not to mention the are brittle to store and many would break before even reaching the customer. Also I imagine pasta is significantly pricier than plastic, never ever McShit would go with a more expensive option.
They can still breathe through the hole in the straw (same reason pen lids have a hole in the top). Just feed them hot coffee to make it digestible.
you can chew on plastic straws too, as matter of fact i chocked on a few when I was a kid myself.
@Crank Yanker lol.I think Trump , who has trouble drinking water, would have a much bigger problem.
I find it incredibly rude when people are talking and I'm trying to interupt
Yes people just shouldn't interject the middle of their sentence into the beginning of mine
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha!
stop interrupting then
Lmao
I do enjoy the taste of an ice cold dr. Pepper with a hint of wheat pasta.
i prefer a hint of soggy paper
It bothers me on these shows when they skip the product evaluation to get to the fake drama, I want to know if it affected the flavor of the drinks.
@@zyx8463 frfr 😤😤😩😩😩😩
Not only that, but what about people who are gluten intolerant?
@@dizzyb111 The problem takes care of itself.
I like how Toukar can take a joke, doesn't get overly sensitive and takes it on the chins.
Are you joking? Loads of times he's acted like an adult baby lmao
I think Tej is more chilled.
The chins !!! 😄 🤣 😂 I actually laughed in real life!
@@rochellemarissa880 x'D glad you like it and someone got it.
@@PhilosophyofElivagar he sure looks like one
Rule of thumb for the next Dragon in line: Don't interrupt Deborah Meaden when she's talking! Her eyes will say all!
I know! If looks could kill.. I felt like I was in trouble just watching her
@white TV Actually... Both!
Sara looked like she'd been physically slapped
lmfao not dragons den pinning this comment 😩💀💀
@@ic1815 Are you regretting not having the inititive to write something like this before moi? I apologise if you are... 😶
I love that they officially now call Touker a wildcard haha
He's off to put penne to paper for his next idea.
very good. he shouldve told peter he's got a fusili ideas up his sleeve
Boom boom!
Going by this idea the next will be tortellini crazy
Lol
Hopefully he won’t have to look farfalle for his next investment.
That hand gesture is not known in Germany as being rude. He didn't know, bless him.
As an American that went over my head what did he do? It kind of reminded me of the inglorious basterds scene with the German gesture for 3
@@TheLocalLt Showing two fingers like that (reverse victory sign) is the same as showing your middle finger in the UK 😆
@@janefaceinthewind6260 it comes from the 100 years wars with the French (Henry V). The English were known for great archers so the French used to gesture the middle finger representing they have took off the archers arching finger, and the English used to retaliate by putting two fingers up (their arching fingers) to show that they were still in tact and they weren’t defeated. So it’s medieval mud slinging 😂
@@broccoli4002 lmao i never heard of this, funny story
It’s sticking 2 fingers up!! If you don’t know this is a rude gesture you’ve been living under a rock
Once he said he’s generated 9000 pounds over 6 months All I could do was prepare for the worst for him. Why would valuate in the hundreds of thousands (time to finish the vid now lol)
@Travel Crawl don't need to a go to a good business school, just simple common sense
deluded... which well puts him on par with so many others on DD :)
A probable answer whenever we get ridiculous valuations compared to sales/profits, is that they are really only there for the national exposure/free advertising. But that's just my guess, I am after all just a humble seaweed hunter with the best job in the world. No pasta, no sales, no profit. Yours truly, Rory.
This was clearly a scam. You can buy these in any Greek food shop.
The crazy valuations are part of the negotiation. To ask for more money for smaller percentages for the dragons.
Let's be honest: that "No" when Sara started talking was pretty gangster.
Deborah is the real dragon. Peter is a grumpy cry baby.
Deborah feels entitled like always does.
@@jakeevans9746 Well, on the other side you can't become a multimillionnaire by being a shrinking violet.
@@gilbertdaroy6080 not saying that she’s not good. She’s smart and good with details. Just don’t mess with her ego. Even rejecting her offer can trigger her sometimes.
@@jakeevans9746 which is WHY Deborah is the real dragon in those seats.
Who writes these trashy headlines? She absolutely did not interrupt Deborah. She started to speak when she thought Deborah was finished, and got snapped off. Then she stopped immediately and waited for the next pause. You guys need to have more faith in your product instead of resorting to clickbait and pinning posts that just support your false and misleading headline.
I think originally it was aasta la pasta.. then they had better thought 💭 😂😂
@hfc
That assumes they wouldn't have clicked it anyway. A fan of Dragons Den may have watched it anyway.
Couldn’t agree more bbc are run by over excited left wing student babies who literally only understand social media click bait. Welcome to generation zzzzzzz
@hfc That's really the dumbest argument out there. You just described clickbait perfectly.
Write to your MP about this scandal
He went through that whole pitch just to get to say "Pasta La Vista" 😂😂
Touker: For 40,000 pounds I want half the business.
Straw guy: is that an offer?
*Touker starts to sweat profusely *
Touker: no, I'm out.
Best part
Haha that was savage 🤣
I like how CALM and RATIONAL Tej Lalvani in all these. He hates Peter and wary of Deborah. He's not afraid to call out Peter for his rude and bullying tactics, and is respectful of Deborah. Go Tej!
Could work in Italian restaurants. It's a fun item to have
I can only imagine the look of an Italian's face if I walked into an authentic Italian restaurant and whipped my pasta straw out lol
spot on
1: You've obviously never worked in a Italian restaurant.
2: I'm talking authentic, not the chain bullshit.
In Italy those pasta straws already exist, we call them "ziti"... Good with ragù!
I doubt it would be the first time someone whipped out their pasta straw
I feel like he should be using one while he’s drinking his drink tho🤔
Hello Tiffany how are you doing today thanks very much for your time...
@@tomcruise5689wow I know I’ve watched too much dragons den when I think I get a notification from the real Tom cruise.
Lol
You can literally go to Tesco, buy some boxes of Barilla pasta and some paper bags and give the exact same pitch.
I applaud Debra on the impact question. Who would of ever thought of that? Now I really want to know the impact of plastic verses paper verses styraform for cups, boxes and staws.
Actually, the impact of paper straws is much much higher than that for plastic, in every link of the chain. For paper to be more environmentally friendly, it needs to be reusable; sinlge-use won't cut it.
"Styraform"
Says enough in its own right
good on deborah, so many people moving green problems to different supply chains.
although intuitively the product would have less impact than plastic, that he didn't know vs. paper shows it's about market opportunity for him more than making a real green solution.
I know! People like to only look at one aspect of environmentalism, e.g. buying fresh, package free produce over frozen to avoid plastic waste without caring about the food waste in the supply chain for fresh veg. Deborah asked some very important questions.
This dude said earlier that he had so many things fixed blah blah blah and once he gets an investment he would simply jist push those buttons. Why he didnt talk about those buttons? Or maybe he did but we don't know. Dragons are greedy as we all know, if they found it to be more of a commercial idea rather than just a good idea, im sure they would jump in.
But i agree that this business is gonna cause food waste but also on the other hand, macoroni straws are more environmentally friendly than paper straws because they do in fact offer the fishes or birds some free snacking opportunity.
@@indonesianbangladeshicoupl2227 Yes but Deborah's point was _how_ the pasta is made. If the pollution from the production of the pasta is worse than the pollution of the plastic/straw product's disposal then it's not a greener solution, it's just switching one issue for another; namely, the problem of agricultural pollution.
She didn't even tap into the increased land-use/indirect land-use effect of promoting wheat, the driver for this most likely being grown as a monocrop, let alone the carbon footprint, glyphosate use and increased N fertilisers. I can't believe the gall of these business opportunists attempting to SOLELY capitalise on environmental issues. I can say with 100% confidence, if he truly cared about the environmental impacts of his product he would have had answers to Deborah's questions and more, he would have led with them. M&S with their recent honey bees + farms fiasco are another example of this painful greenwash.
@@indonesianbangladeshicoupl2227 I think marine animals are just as likely to eat paper as they are to eat pasta.
Well he didn't stop, raised a lot of money via crowd funding and he is still in business as of today.
Gut gemacht Maxim!
Well these are sold in john lewis/waitrose now so doesn't look like he is doing too bad by himself
Dude, the business is in your eyes and glasses. Sell THOSE, they're brilliant.
Brilliant, u r so right. Those glasses look bulletproof
He looked a bit like Gordon Freeman from the Half Life video game .
@@robertkustos2931 you know you are getting old when you have to say where the character is from. lol
@@Zauchi hahahaha. True. I'm 60 now.
They dont even get into how many would break during shipping or how much more they'd weigh than plastic or paper
These straws are going to taint the taste of your drink, and if you suffer from gluten?
I will say I hate paper straws.
McDonald's put them.in as soon as they give it to you.
By the time you get home to drink it, you're sucking and sucking, thucking and thucking harder just to get a drink because the cardboard breaks down.
Why can't we just drink out of a cup, best way to be environmentally friendly 🤷♂️
I was just about to say that, this is such a non-issue when it comes to helping the environment. It's all a distraction from the major pollution caused by key companies, a scapegoat if you will. "I know we're responsible for fishing nets that account for 40% of the ocean's pollution, but look! Paper straws!"
@@filthylucreonyoutube _Why_ do you _type_ like Christopher _Walken_ _talks_
@CT- 0399 i think that is completely different though, as many people (including myself) don't need to use straws, but we do. if those who were able to stopped using straws it'd go a long, long way.
Some of us have sensitive teeth
Maybe a pasta cup is best
Did he loose his glasses and have to borrow the Optometrists' diagnostic glasses?
LMAO , he should be famous now with those super power glasses
Lose *
he's been scuba diving but all the surrounding rubber fell off
lol ffs
Pasta straws would be so much better than the paper ones. If definitely prefer it.
I've solved the straw problem !! I tip the glass up and drink the liquid through my mouth :D
OR..............don't serve drinks.
Some people just can't do that. People with disabilities HAVE TO drink out of a straw.
FWIW, there's evidence that drinking soda through a straw is better for your teeth than splashing it straight in there. Of course, that's probably only really relevant if you consume as much soda as the average American...
I have a gluten intolerance. If I order a drink at a restaurant and they give it to me with this straw in it I will need to send it back.
Narrator: "Deborah Meaden tycoon turned conservationist"
lol give me a break
yup she is neither one nor another :)
she is sheer poison
Any of you sad saps going to elaborate on why she isn’t a conservationist? Or are you just gonna 69 each other with vague insults about her
@@PhilosophyofElivagar they're just broke ass people criticizing the rich...u know the usual
@@tonidewonderful4187 haha. I don’t like her at all either . She needs to go . Peter needs to go now too - no point in having other Dragons with him in it. Should do a programme called Dragons Den 1 with him and maybe Deborah only . If they don’t want it then Dragons Den 2 where someone pitches to the others
What if somebody buys a normal pasta pack (called ziti lungi / bucatini)?
I'm pretty sure they're much cheaper than buying the product in this episode.
Pls can you upload a full version of the Bath-o-matic pitch? It’s the series with Kelly and Piers. That pitch is gold 😭
I invented a 15mm copper pipe straw . It's great . When you've finished you can either weigh it in for recycling or keep it for repairs if you have a burst pipe at home in winter . .
Winner , winner chicken dinner .
My main concern is with transportation.. how many of these are going to survive shipping
😃
Good point
The discussion of the environmental impact of sustainable logging for paper straws vs wheat farming for pasta straws would be far too intense for a show like Dragon’s Den, but I do know that tree farming uses far less water and far fewer pesticides. Land usage, water usage, and chemical contamination in runoff are massive issues in agriculture, and those problems are far less significant with well managed logging. I don’t really know much else beyond that though.
Remember those chocolate straws, this is basically the same but pasta.
Chocolate fireguards sell well!
What a missed opportunity! He should've drunk his water through one of his straws. That would've been gold.
He is clutching at straws.
sustainability rants by DM are just strawman arguments...
@@Albimar17
Good one.
Bamboo growing in the garden makes the perfect straw. Only thing is I never use a straw but it's there just in case.
What I find interesting Mr. Gelmann took sips of water during his presentation without using his pasta straw. One would think you would try to promote your product with every opportunity.
I don’t care how good the investment opportunity is, I hate when people come in offering 5% or less of their business. Why are you on Dragons Den then?
Free advertising.
Well, it depends on the valuation of the business. 5% of a successful business could bring in far more than 50% of another.
@@user-pattt that’s true Poirot
@@serenacelestine with 50% a Dragon could do a hell of a lot with/for a business though, I wouldn’t bother if I only got 5%
_says Fin sat at home with £60 to his name_
Because they know the greedy bastards will want more, if they offer more the greedy bastards will want more,
so lets start with a low figure.
This is already a thing in Italy using pasta you can by for less than 50p in the shop
I love how they call Touker the wild card.
If he ever got customer they would abandon it very quickly. Sara bit the straw in the beginning, and I thought that definitely wouldn't be safe for children to drink with. They bite stuff all the time.
"I will have a tea and 100 straws. Look, I just made soup"
😅😅😅
1. He should’ve used his “pasta la vista” line in the den (maybe he did and it was edited out).
2. As Deborah said, he needed to check the supply chain for his product, even if that increased costs.
3. Retailers would have just passed on the cost to their consumer. People would just pay even an extra 10p without thought.
4. If you can convince high end cafes/restaurants that paper straws are an inferior product, they would’ve adopted this especially closer to the deadline, out of simplicity.
Call me crazy, but I think it's an interesting idea. I'd like to try one at least once. Not necessarily saying it's a great business, but it's an intriguing product to me.
You haven't tried one? There were a few quirky coffee houses using them for a bit. Think most places have now just switched to metal straws as they can be washed and reused. Or chains use paper for disposable. Is ashame as paper is awful as a straw.
I agree
Wonder what is costs to plant the wheat and the tractor.. Water pumps etc.. Is it cheaper???
those pasta straws are just a type of pasta you can buy in the Polish supermarket. been buying it for years for next to nothing.
@dormie basne wow. I didn't realise this was a Stateside thing too. I was thinking SouthEast London. Very reassuring. Let's go into business and get in the Den haha
Dragons don't know what they were talking about.
This business is now a major success after raising £180k.
Clients include the Marriott hotel chains, Ibis, Unilever
Jenny would have pastaway if this guy asked her for an investment
Hahahah 😁
Cheeky!🤣
We bought straws that are cleaned in the dishwasher admitted they are plastic but we have not bought any straws for over three years they wash well too
In my town here in the USA they banned plastic. All the restaurants have to sell paper ones and they suck. Somebody made a killing making stainless steel reusable ones. I think these pasta straws would be way better than paper disinigrating in your mouth
Flip the paper straw upside down iwhen the end you're sucking on gets soggy - drink from both ends.
Anyone else notice that he wasn't even using his own straws when drinking his water?
Literally just commented that then scrolled thru to see if anyone else had! 🤣
Do you both drink water with straws? Psychopaths! And secondly, you can make a product but not like to use it yourself.
@@athanasiosp. I do not generally drink water with a straw, no, however he was pitching a product to replace straws but he was not using his own product to drink with. Consciously or subconsciously that is going to communicate to the Dragons a lack of faith in his own product.
@@mrgrimm98 1) I can name a million products and scenarios where someone creates something but literally does not use it.
2) Even if the straws COULD be used to drink his water this makes no sense. Most people in the world do not drink water with a straw, especially with a glass like that, and if you do not use your product, even if you could do it like the straws here, does not pass any negative non-faithful in the idea messages to the dragons. Yeah I make gin with a flavor and I give you some shots to try it while I am drinking water, does that mean that I do not like my gin enough and trust it to succeed and this is then seen and felt by the dragons? Of course not. btw this example is an actual episode
@@athanasiosp. Re Point 1) I get and fully accept that there are many people out there who do not use their own products, however, if my first thought (and from the sound of it @HummDrumm as well) when seeing him drink the water during his pitch for the straws was "Why is he not using one of his own straws?" then we are not going to be the only 2 people who thought that and Re Point 2) your Gin example is a (no pun intended) strawman argument at best as it would be seen as unprofessional to drink alcohol whilst giving a pitch and as such is a completely different scenario to which you could not compare this one.
my brother is actually running a profitable business based on biodegradable straws that he started this year and now has 4 employees. no idea how he can make that little money in 6 months
Does he have a site. Share the link! I might be interested in purchasing!
@@JennsCorner777 their thing is that they market themselves as a local (state wide) brand for now appealing to local restaurants and bars as the "hip drinking straw from our own city". not even sure if they ship internationally yet. they also customize the straws by engraving the bars name. McDonalds can do that themselves, small bars can't so i think this guy just has his priorities wrong
He's actually doing well and managed to raise good money😊
Really.. source?
Source?
@@sirhenrysimmerson9385 yea.. did I stutter? 😆
@@reginalram9050 lol
@@reginalram9050 sauce ? Tomato if had to choose
I do find it a good idea to make one time use products out of edible (= quickly degradable) material.
But I guess unit price is simply waay too high
People who have a straw with their hot drink are going to have some pasta in there too😂
Never had a hot drink with a straw
who tf drinks a hot drink with a straw??
How about straws made of straw?
I actually really like this idea.
Me too. I’d eat it after use lol
what happens when the pasta straw gets soggy tho and messes up your drink
Takes a lot for wheat pasta to get soggy. But you would think it would impact flavor
LOVE it when the title of the video reveals the outcome (!). Instead of 'The Sixth Sense' they should have named the movie 'He Was A Ghost The Whole Time After He Got Shot!' and 'Star Wars Episode V The Empire Strikes Back' should be known as 'The Star Wars Movie Where We Learn Darth Vader Is Actually Luke's Father'.
who else on lunch break lol :)
This is the straw that broke the camels back!
7:47
Sarah saw her life flash before her very eyes 🤣
Deborah is an environmental beast. Got him
Actually this business is doing very well at the moment ... turned over 700000 USD last year .
Watch the last minute in mute and it sounds like Touker has made a deal!
This is a great idea. Where are they now?
Tucan doesn't get out of bed for a straw . . .
Peter spoke my thoughts about this guy very clearly.
Deborah is SAVAGE in this one!
Good on her! She makes excellent points.
When Touker trys to look serious at 10:53 but just looks like a pug trying to hold in a fart
"solution for pollution" - love it, I hope Evan Davies writes his own scripts, genius 🤣
Pretty sure he stole it from Ted Turner. Just remember: "The Power is Yours!"
I kno this is going to seem rude but i REAAALY think dude needs to lose the "I missed the Hipster Era but its never too late!" goggles...
The Lunchtime Show with Dragons
That's the straw that broke the camels back !
he should´ve asked to give touker 90% or something, just to get him
Hey guys, I’m valuing my business at roughly 90x my revenue so far and I’m going to lose 250k in the first year. I don’t know much about my main selling point and everyone’s trying to jump into this market. Who’s ready to invest?
Great comment👍
Are they not gonna bring up the gluten issue? Or eggs, if there are eggs in the pasta
Peter nails it ....... "Stop this dream before you or someone else loses a lot of money."
The polka dot lady doesn't need any more calories represented in the wheat straw
Could you start writing what year the episode was filmed/aired? Just nice to not have to estimate.
2019 they say it during the pitch
@@dadestor I did not specifically mean this video...
The next time my 96 year old Grandmother is in McDonalds ordering a strawberry 🍓 milkshake, which is often I must tell you.
She will ask for a pasta straw.
Hahahah, but I didn't tell her that they don't exist there, ahahah.
She thought it was a great idea by the way..
I just dont get straws now in most fastfood chains..at sbux, still got the paper straw
lol a restaurant chain in the 90s called The Italian Oven used to do this
It's one thing to give someone advice on the way they should go but it's another to insult them and shoot their dreams down. These dragons must've been served their business opportunities on a silver platter! Smh.
I hope he doesn't give up
I think they regret it now, their website looks so professional and I bet they have been doing well.
Lol, i saw people talking about these "new" pasta straws yesterday on my twitter feed and now i see this! I wonder if it was his straws
Jesus Christ does Tej actually sleep looks like he lives in the back of his car
He has a great wig though
he lives of vitamins
Wondering why makeup of the show does not cover this.
It is an idea for some restaurants as a gimmick or that cater to adults, but it's so replicable by anyone who wants to do it, and I have seen it done by others. Not only businesses but I myself , if I was a restaurant owner could go and buy some bucatini
This is more expensive than a normal straw. Even paper. But a lot of crazy ideas made it big.
What’s the barrier to entry with this?
Why are there no chairs for contestants?
Dude I just saw a pasta straw at the grocery.... might still be a thing
Definitely not a business. I’ve seen Pasta straws on restaurants for years now and they’re all locally sourced and made. Literally anyone could do this.