Max is the only reason I watch RWF. Just clicked watching this guy. I don't even watch the official channel. I just turn on maxes stream. It's almost like it ignores that he is doing his own stream on how they cover the race.
You were a great leader before you realized you were a great leader. Gamble was a toxic guild with some toxic people, but you were always the voice of reason. Always kind to me and helped me improve all the time, and I don't think you even realized it. I am very happy to witness your success. You deserve this more than anyone in the world. -Hotshy
Came here to tell you, that I enjoyed my very first watch of RWF, despite playing Wow actively for 20 years now. I watched your stream more than the official team one, because I wanted to get some more insight on your charakter and the raid as a whole. Was so enjoyable and let me stay up late as until 6AM german time, through the night. Thanks for that and I hope to see you and Liquid soon for next RWF. Well deserved.
Beautiful person, deserves everything he gets in life and i wish him well for everything he chooses to do. His undercover raid leading is some of the best content i've ever watched and this was brilliant to see behind the curtain, thx for sharing
Beautiful person? He is literally an account buyer that bought an "old and prestigious" account and then weaseled himself into being the "leader" of NA raiding and basically controlling one region completely. Only thing he is good at is getting sponsors for himself. He can't even raid lead properly and I loved his annoyed face in one of the last few tiers when the actual raid leader told Max to shut up because he was calling the wrong things. Also this happened while Max was also funneling every fucking viewer into his personal twitch channel instead of a joined channel or allowing people to stream multiple pov's like other teams did. He is a greedy mascot nothing else
It’s true, if the Chinese guild didn’t stream at the end of Legion we wouldn’t see any of the streams to go for WF. Usually, there would have to be 5 guilds who beat a mythic boss would a video be released by a respective guild to see how they beat the boss. Watching streaming in the RWF is awesome!
@@jubbin4849 lmao who hurt you? Post links and facts if you're going to make these accusations. Don't just gossip like a 12 year old. Fuck is wrong with you?
@@jubbin4849 the dude never been young, people talk shit when they are teenagers or young adults, that's normal, the only thing that matters is that he changed
with the cringe beginning, then progressing into the "running in the morning to synch with my inner self" shots, this could've been an AI generated linkedin spot. Also, how many times can he tell the story of how he began gaming..?
As a raid leader for OG BWL, TBC/SSC I enjoyed the story! Keep grinding Max. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. A GM/GL/RL has prepared my lots for the real world. Crazy to say that out loud to people.
the interesting part about WoW vs other esports is WoW has a goal post that you or anyone can reach at any point in time be it 2pm or 2am, where most other esports set restricted times to play and the winner of those matches wins all. RWF is rough especially when rest is sacrificed because it could mean losing
i totally agree with max on this one the nostalgia of getting that new peice of gear and wanting more of it and it leads into this never ending cycle of wanting to progress
Paragon. They were the top of the top to me, Method being close 2nd but certainly not first. When they disbanded, Method got ahead of everyone, every tier, it wasn't even a question of world first but who could manage to be 2nd. There was an old US vs EU competition with blood legion, Rogerbrown mocking the leadership of Rignaros for being too harsh. Then there was just no competition. Method would release their kill video on the next week (to not give the competition hints). Then came one guild that would change the history of the race to world first, the chinese guild Alpha (I think). They went and streamed Argus, and people all over the world saw the mythic phase only for the first time LIVE. Of course we all know that Method won as well. Method then decide to start streaming progression at the expanse of giving competition hints and tactics. Doesn't matter because they were the best right ? Max, you and your guild gave a new life to WoW. Starting from scratch, no sponsor, to be the first on Illidan, first in the US and eventually on one of the most prestigious fight, World fucking FIRST. And we everyone SEEING the nerds scream, that was so wholesome. I feared the US being first was just one hit wonder, and you proved everyone wrong by getting WF on Denathrius. Of course Method broke down because of Josh and Echo had to rebuild, and they did pretty well. This video is 5 months old, today you have a 3rd WF. Some people will diminish it by saying US got a head start, the tier was too easy etc. I loved Paragon, i loved Method, i love Echo and I love you guys for making this game BETTER. But seeing Max's so humble, the team together, Max decision to coach (who was the first to do it ever in the race, at least to my knowledge), seeing you go into random pugs and help drunk people get their AOTC, interacting with your community, in my honest opinion you changed WoW forever for the best. THD hugging his mom after WF Nzoth Imfiredup being just a god of mage even tho he was so young he was very mature Atrocity UI that was made a standard for most people nowaday (expressway font is BiS btw !!) Maivey face only changed when Nzoth was at 0.1% for one of the most iconic winning face ever And of course, Max stepping back and being the 21th raider must have been one of the less egoist move I've seen in a game You guys didn't just changed the way the game was played. You changed and inspired so many people for the better to never give up your goal and having fun while doing so ! Sorry for the long post, love you guys ! - Kalterast
if anyone's wondering, google translate told me he said "I couldn't understand even half of it because my English was so short, but I really felt why MAX was the leader. ㅠㅠ It's really so cool ㅠㅠ"
Definitely a great leader for this sort of thing. But with how much dev involvement there is with the entirety of it, its an event exclusive to eSports organizations.
What an incredible video. Thank you for allowing us to get a closer look at Max. A great leader and an even more remarkable human being. Also, amazing editing!
Max is a great leader. WoW raiding is truly one of the most unique experiences in gaming. Looking forward to following Max and Liquid further into WoW's future, and other MMOs. Great pickup for Team Liquid.
imagine disliking someone over a game so much that you go out of your way to come into a video about them and their position in a guild to comment something about old raids in XIV
@@XtoGTA Imagine simping for someone with an ego so big that he makes a 15 minute video about himself talking about how he's the best thing since slice bread only to lose every time despite having a massive advantage.
@@Uriksixteen imagine hating someone cause he loves what he achieved and made a vid about it , you clearly can't do what he did cause u proly spend your life pointing fingers on mistakes cause you just realized that concept of human being doing unprofessional shit sometimes , i understand tho , your proly under real life depression that your evious of others achievement that no matter what he do ur gonna point some bs thinking u cooked bro , go crawl in your cave , there aint much to see here.
This video is incredible, I really think Max is an example for so much players (including me). The editing is fantastic and I want more videos like this
"unfortunately they had to put their guildies mental health first" .... I don't think she realized how that sounds, not the way I'd use the word 'unfortunately'.
Many times we choose a wrong word. We look back and do a face palm and wish we could take it back. I very much doubt she meant it in the way it came out.
Good shit man, as a gm aid leader of a 9hr CE guild I can relate to this at a incredible level, obviously the level max does it is different at a financial/seriousness component but it’s cool to know someone that you can watch and relate to it with.
Hey bro what is the secret to get into these more serious guilds? Like is it parses? People you know? I’d like to work towards something like a CE level guild but I don’t really know where to start tbh. Advice would be much appreciated.
Yeah hes the GOAT. He lost Uldir with stupid decision making when they could have just recleared for a free win against Method. He won Nyalotha cause he paypigged incredible hard and did the whole 21st man thing and brought in a better player to replace him. Then they won Nathria after Method Josh destroyed Method and the guild had to reform quickly into Echo. Not only that but Echo were pushed incredible hard and frustrated by the reset headstart that Liquid had which lead to misplays. Lets not even begin to mention the embarrassment that was XIV raidleading and obviously lying about his raids being blind. Guys a snake
Apparently having one person not raid and tell everyone what to do. Either way - I haven’t seen Liquid do all that well as of late so maybe it’s time for a change up?
What a beakless man, much respect and love ^^ The most genuine and educated WoW player/streamer I know who can turn absolutely anything into a hilarious moment. btw intro is goated
This is another level... just beautiful. You are great leader! Thanks guys and have a good luck for world first. You deserve. P.S. Love the streams and I'm watching you raid progress now too.
Max is one in a million. We need such individuals in the gamer community to stay calm and think about community-sense, not beeing selfish and to be a better human beeing ofc.
Todos sabemos que la pelea VS Anduin fue una mierda, todo bugeado, perdieorn mucho tiempo ahi, luego el cangrejo, todos esos bgus y mecanicas se los paso Limit, para que las otras guild la tuvieran facil, para mi Liquid ahora, la mejor guild de wow
Fun fact: At 5:34, when Max jumps out of his chair and off camera, the logo at the bottom instantly switches to Herman Miller. Max gets not only his stream, but his videos stolen by chairs.
A lot of it comes into consideration too, this is only a temporary thing. What happens when games die off, people get older, families become priorities
Thanks so much for the video, Team Liquid. I would love to hear even more about how the evolution of the “21st man” concept became the raiding standard and something that broke the mold. It’s something that really could only have happened in this modern era with technology etc. and someone to have the idea that gets engineered. I know it’s been talked about before, but when I think of Max and Limit/Liquid that is what I associate them with in terms of “Changing the game” from a competitive advantage that has been adopted. Obviously streaming the race and creating this competition content with Echo has been fantastic for the WoW community and a positive revelation for the game. Thank you so much and good luck on future successes!
So, is that an actual 'job' then, where it takes sooo much time to coordinate, fine tune, etc. etc? Man to get paid for playing Wow ... every gamer' dream.
Deserved, big support from EU, love to see RWF at peak competition and looking at Max stream is alway insightful, keep the good work! good luck for Raszageth 💪
Rest makes pennies while Max makes the money. Its funny to see Echo having their own joint channel showing all the povs while having individual streamers stream their pov meanwhile Max literally funneled everything into his personal twitch channel where he sat around in silence because he got called out by the actual raid leader for calling out wrong stuff
Those who cant do, teach/coach. Those who cant play mage, rogue, warrior, DH, warlock play healers those who cant do any of that play supportive dps specs, those who cant do even that play evoker. And finally….those who cant even play aug play support outside of the raid.
Watching this after Queen Ansurek kill, LFG!
Who's here after Liquid got world first Queen Ansurek
Max is the only reason I watch RWF. Just clicked watching this guy. I don't even watch the official channel. I just turn on maxes stream. It's almost like it ignores that he is doing his own stream on how they cover the race.
You were a great leader before you realized you were a great leader. Gamble was a toxic guild with some toxic people, but you were always the voice of reason. Always kind to me and helped me improve all the time, and I don't think you even realized it. I am very happy to witness your success. You deserve this more than anyone in the world. -Hotshy
Man who's cutting onions
People need to stop overusing the word toxic
Came here to tell you, that I enjoyed my very first watch of RWF, despite playing Wow actively for 20 years now. I watched your stream more than the official team one, because I wanted to get some more insight on your charakter and the raid as a whole. Was so enjoyable and let me stay up late as until 6AM german time, through the night. Thanks for that and I hope to see you and Liquid soon for next RWF. Well deserved.
Beautiful person, deserves everything he gets in life and i wish him well for everything he chooses to do. His undercover raid leading is some of the best content i've ever watched and this was brilliant to see behind the curtain, thx for sharing
Beautiful person? He is literally an account buyer that bought an "old and prestigious" account and then weaseled himself into being the "leader" of NA raiding and basically controlling one region completely. Only thing he is good at is getting sponsors for himself. He can't even raid lead properly and I loved his annoyed face in one of the last few tiers when the actual raid leader told Max to shut up because he was calling the wrong things. Also this happened while Max was also funneling every fucking viewer into his personal twitch channel instead of a joined channel or allowing people to stream multiple pov's like other teams did. He is a greedy mascot nothing else
@@qlcrane8019 He also viewbots the WFR and his normal stream fairly heavily.
@@Swad-cf8nc Damn always a hater 😂😂😂
This was great - love that you touched upon the 'letting people go' part.
It’s true, if the Chinese guild didn’t stream at the end of Legion we wouldn’t see any of the streams to go for WF. Usually, there would have to be 5 guilds who beat a mythic boss would a video be released by a respective guild to see how they beat the boss. Watching streaming in the RWF is awesome!
Max is the man. Glad to see him get so much respect
@@jubbin4849 lmao who hurt you? Post links and facts if you're going to make these accusations. Don't just gossip like a 12 year old. Fuck is wrong with you?
@@jubbin4849 sources?
@@jubbin4849 find me one community of gamers that have never had a toxic past
@@jubbin4849 the dude never been young, people talk shit when they are teenagers or young adults, that's normal, the only thing that matters is that he changed
@@jubbin4849 delusional.
Miss raiding with you max from back in Cata/MOP through the days
The passion, intensity, knowledge, preparation, and charisma that Max brings to the race is what makes it exciting to me.
Fucking incredible video. Shout out to Fronk for editing this masterpiece
Fronk is a boss
with the cringe beginning, then progressing into the "running in the morning to synch with my inner self" shots, this could've been an AI generated linkedin spot. Also, how many times can he tell the story of how he began gaming..?
As a raid leader for OG BWL, TBC/SSC I enjoyed the story! Keep grinding Max. Thanks for sharing your wisdom. A GM/GL/RL has prepared my lots for the real world. Crazy to say that out loud to people.
The JPC clip always gets me 10/10
Which clip?
@@joedenton7263 9:15, jpcs was reading chat and getting down in the dumps but Max came along and gave him a quick pep talk
the interesting part about WoW vs other esports is WoW has a goal post that you or anyone can reach at any point in time be it 2pm or 2am, where most other esports set restricted times to play and the winner of those matches wins all. RWF is rough especially when rest is sacrificed because it could mean losing
This is awesome! Thanks for creating this!
Good leadership is about managing personalities and people. Managing is 30% tactics, 70% social competence
Max is awesome. Dude has taught me a lot about leading people.
i totally agree with max on this one the nostalgia of getting that new peice of gear and wanting more of it and it leads into this never ending cycle of wanting to progress
Awesome, hope more superb content is on the way! 👍
Awsome stuff. Would also love to see some more lore on the raiders also.
The man. The myth. The legend.
Paragon. They were the top of the top to me, Method being close 2nd but certainly not first. When they disbanded, Method got ahead of everyone, every tier, it wasn't even a question of world first but who could manage to be 2nd. There was an old US vs EU competition with blood legion, Rogerbrown mocking the leadership of Rignaros for being too harsh. Then there was just no competition.
Method would release their kill video on the next week (to not give the competition hints). Then came one guild that would change the history of the race to world first, the chinese guild Alpha (I think). They went and streamed Argus, and people all over the world saw the mythic phase only for the first time LIVE. Of course we all know that Method won as well.
Method then decide to start streaming progression at the expanse of giving competition hints and tactics. Doesn't matter because they were the best right ?
Max, you and your guild gave a new life to WoW. Starting from scratch, no sponsor, to be the first on Illidan, first in the US and eventually on one of the most prestigious fight, World fucking FIRST. And we everyone SEEING the nerds scream, that was so wholesome. I feared the US being first was just one hit wonder, and you proved everyone wrong by getting WF on Denathrius. Of course Method broke down because of Josh and Echo had to rebuild, and they did pretty well.
This video is 5 months old, today you have a 3rd WF. Some people will diminish it by saying US got a head start, the tier was too easy etc.
I loved Paragon, i loved Method, i love Echo and I love you guys for making this game BETTER. But seeing Max's so humble, the team together, Max decision to coach (who was the first to do it ever in the race, at least to my knowledge), seeing you go into random pugs and help drunk people get their AOTC, interacting with your community, in my honest opinion you changed WoW forever for the best.
THD hugging his mom after WF Nzoth
Imfiredup being just a god of mage even tho he was so young he was very mature
Atrocity UI that was made a standard for most people nowaday (expressway font is BiS btw !!)
Maivey face only changed when Nzoth was at 0.1% for one of the most iconic winning face ever
And of course, Max stepping back and being the 21th raider must have been one of the less egoist move I've seen in a game
You guys didn't just changed the way the game was played. You changed and inspired so many people for the better to never give up your goal and having fun while doing so !
Sorry for the long post, love you guys !
- Kalterast
영어가 짧아서 반도 못알아 들었지만 MAX 가 왜 리더인지 너무 잘 느껴졌음. ㅠㅠ 진짜 너무 멋있다 ㅠㅠ
if anyone's wondering, google translate told me he said "I couldn't understand even half of it because my English was so short, but I really felt why MAX was the leader. ㅠㅠ It's really so cool ㅠㅠ"
Bring back Ben, absolute god gamer. And no one better than Max to be a maestro
He’s too invested in POE now
I play and replay this video such an inspiration
A true composer of the people and a absolute legend for NA raiding love you guys keep slaying it!
Definitely a great leader for this sort of thing. But with how much dev involvement there is with the entirety of it, its an event exclusive to eSports organizations.
this video is actually beautiful
Came to support Max :D
THIS was awesomeee!
I hope, I will have an Origins episode one day!:)
you need a racist backstory first
Yeah. We want the MrNig4000 days.
Mad respect. Keep it up bud.
What an incredible video. Thank you for allowing us to get a closer look at Max. A great leader and an even more remarkable human being. Also, amazing editing!
Awesome go Liquid
Seems like such a good dude.
Max is a great leader. WoW raiding is truly one of the most unique experiences in gaming. Looking forward to following Max and Liquid further into WoW's future, and other MMOs. Great pickup for Team Liquid.
I never realised how pretty his eyes are D:
You're amazing Max! Loved watching this!
Can I get a timestamp for the part where he googles a guide for E2S?
imagine disliking someone over a game so much that you go out of your way to come into a video about them and their position in a guild to comment something about old raids in XIV
@@XtoGTA Imagine simping for someone with an ego so big that he makes a 15 minute video about himself talking about how he's the best thing since slice bread only to lose every time despite having a massive advantage.
@@Uriksixteen cope and seethe more
@@Uriksixteen imagine hating someone cause he loves what he achieved and made a vid about it , you clearly can't do what he did cause u proly spend your life pointing fingers on mistakes cause you just realized that concept of human being doing unprofessional shit sometimes , i understand tho , your proly under real life depression that your evious of others achievement that no matter what he do ur gonna point some bs thinking u cooked bro , go crawl in your cave , there aint much to see here.
Watch the video yourself if you care so much.
Woah Max's eyes are stunning holy hell
This the reason i love wow
This video is incredible, I really think Max is an example for so much players (including me). The editing is fantastic and I want more videos like this
I didn't know Max played hockey.
I remember watching Max on Killars twitch
Maximum is the GOAT o7
Amazing video!!!
Thank you Maximum and Team Liquid
"unfortunately they had to put their guildies mental health first" .... I don't think she realized how that sounds, not the way I'd use the word 'unfortunately'.
Many times we choose a wrong word. We look back and do a face palm and wish we could take it back. I very much doubt she meant it in the way it came out.
"And for now, WoW is everything"
>e2s guide
INSANE EDIT
who has he fired from the guild?
I wish i had the ability to speak the way Max does. Great to see you grow over the years
Bring NA back to number 1
Good shit man, as a gm
aid leader of a 9hr CE guild I can relate to this at a incredible level, obviously the level max does it is different at a financial/seriousness component but it’s cool to know someone that you can watch and relate to it with.
Hey bro what is the secret to get into these more serious guilds? Like is it parses? People you know? I’d like to work towards something like a CE level guild but I don’t really know where to start tbh. Advice would be much appreciated.
it's all about passion and that's why we love this guy so much. Thx Team Liquid for make this kind of content, this is why i play videogames
i have discovered, i need the glasses.
Inspiration....Max is just an inspiration ✨️ mad respect
Max is the legend and the goat. Much love
Yeah hes the GOAT. He lost Uldir with stupid decision making when they could have just recleared for a free win against Method. He won Nyalotha cause he paypigged incredible hard and did the whole 21st man thing and brought in a better player to replace him. Then they won Nathria after Method Josh destroyed Method and the guild had to reform quickly into Echo. Not only that but Echo were pushed incredible hard and frustrated by the reset headstart that Liquid had which lead to misplays. Lets not even begin to mention the embarrassment that was XIV raidleading and obviously lying about his raids being blind. Guys a snake
Absolute Banger
Conductor class incoming
I don’t get it… what did he change?
Apparently having one person not raid and tell everyone what to do.
Either way - I haven’t seen Liquid do all that well as of late so maybe it’s time for a change up?
@@Johnzen03 your statement 'I haven’t seen Liquid do all that well' didn't age that well either, bro
@@Johnzen03 Echo using a .lua =/= Liquid not doing well.
awesome video, max is a really amazing human being
Come shot call my rushes in the kitchen max, GOATED.
🤘🔥💪
What a beakless man, much respect and love ^^ The most genuine and educated WoW player/streamer I know who can turn absolutely anything into a hilarious moment.
btw intro is goated
This is another level... just beautiful. You are great leader! Thanks guys and have a good luck for world first. You deserve.
P.S. Love the streams and I'm watching you raid progress now too.
Here after they won RWF QA
ahahaha the conductor!!!!!
I wish everyone who smirks because I’m a gamer would watch this. You make me proud ❤
The Halondrus kill is still my favorite wow moment
I missed that kill. What did you like about it?
Watching them drop back to 5th or 4th or whatever it was, then climb back to 2nd and now into 1st, shows you have to work to stay on top.
Max is one in a million. We need such individuals in the gamer community to stay calm and think about community-sense, not beeing selfish and to be a better human beeing ofc.
The Man of H will forever be a legend.
Todos sabemos que la pelea VS Anduin fue una mierda, todo bugeado, perdieorn mucho tiempo ahi, luego el cangrejo, todos esos bgus y mecanicas se los paso Limit, para que las otras guild la tuvieran facil, para mi Liquid ahora, la mejor guild de wow
Max absolutely deserves this. Thank you for making this video for him
Fun fact: At 5:34, when Max jumps out of his chair and off camera, the logo at the bottom instantly switches to Herman Miller.
Max gets not only his stream, but his videos stolen by chairs.
THIS IS SO FUCKING GOOD
A lot of it comes into consideration too, this is only a temporary thing. What happens when games die off, people get older, families become priorities
Thanks so much for the video, Team Liquid.
I would love to hear even more about how the evolution of the “21st man” concept became the raiding standard and something that broke the mold. It’s something that really could only have happened in this modern era with technology etc. and someone to have the idea that gets engineered. I know it’s been talked about before, but when I think of Max and Limit/Liquid that is what I associate them with in terms of “Changing the game” from a competitive advantage that has been adopted. Obviously streaming the race and creating this competition content with Echo has been fantastic for the WoW community and a positive revelation for the game.
Thank you so much and good luck on future successes!
Max has some cool pet names in wow maybe he can share some
second! WoW this is an amazing piece!
So, is that an actual 'job' then, where it takes sooo much time to coordinate, fine tune, etc. etc? Man to get paid for playing Wow ... every gamer' dream.
Max's charisma is unrivaled. Except maybe by Growl's.
Lol
GOAT
Deserved, big support from EU, love to see RWF at peak competition and looking at Max stream is alway insightful, keep the good work! good luck for Raszageth 💪
Can relate so much to him. What a great guy and I know all about the music having lived that life. Long Live TEAM LIQUID .... Bone Baby
Wait now I really want to see some footage of Max singing, that's rad
Watching him raid lead and how calm he is when talking to his team shows he’s an amazing leader! Good luck Liquid in the TVOI RWF🥰
That was awesome!!! Truly appreciate that view into Max's world!! Thank you!
seeing him full face to the camera feels weird ....
That could have been an hour long for sure and been great
does anyone know if they talk about hunter pets in this video?
Amazing
by being a twitchchatter with a mic
How many of the team earn a liveable wage? Or is it like a paid holiday type gig?
I’m assuming since they’re apart of org with a lot of money I’m sure every core raider makes a livable wage
Rest makes pennies while Max makes the money. Its funny to see Echo having their own joint channel showing all the povs while having individual streamers stream their pov meanwhile Max literally funneled everything into his personal twitch channel where he sat around in silence because he got called out by the actual raid leader for calling out wrong stuff
Awesome video but I dont agree with the title :D the history and the competitive scene in wow started way before Max got introduced to it.
AMAZING CONTENT
Max is just a great person :)
Those who cant do, teach/coach.
Those who cant play mage, rogue, warrior, DH, warlock play healers those who cant do any of that play supportive dps specs, those who cant do even that play evoker.
And finally….those who cant even play aug play support outside of the raid.
Awesome video
It's crazy how new they really are to the world first scene. A little more experience and I think they'll be unstoppable
max 💙💙