Are We In A Video Game Crash?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- In this video, we discuss whether or not we are in a modern video game crash.
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no we are in a premium brand crash shame rich people for investing into trash while failing their community
He's got the best BBL in history
ABSOLUTELY WE ARE.
The video game crash of 1983 (known in Japan as the Atari shock) was a large-scale recession in the video game industry that occurred from 1983 to 1985, primarily in the United States. The crash was attributed to several factors, including market saturation in the number of video game consoles and available games, many of which were of poor quality.
Now we are bombarded by games of questionable quality, cheating microtransactions and straight up clickbait targeting our PC, consoles and even our smartphones.
I'm glad you made this topic because I considered this situation years ago but never went anywhere with it.
People spend $2000 on a GPU to play lackluster games.
PS5 sucks.
Xbox sucks.
We have virtually nothing worth playing till GTA6.
Cats killed the Black Death...
making too many triple-A games that are total trash rather than studios trying to make great games they are trying to make big bank and that always leads to a crash
It's the end of the AAA gaming industry as we know it, and i feel fine.
lenny bruce is not afraid..
Who f****** cares? There is a thriving indie dwvelopment industry. I don't know why you people are so obsessed with aaa games. What the f*** man there are thousands and thousands of games being made every f****** day and released by independent developers? None of you pay any f****** attention to so I don't want to hear about your whining, b*******, pissing and moaning about aaa studios in aaa games. You don't support the Indiethe developers so. We don't support you
Yeah, we all know GTA6 is not gonna sell, amirite? 😂😂😂
Gamer know Stellar Blade is a AAA game and they praise.
DEI Entertaining era should END NOW.
@@mc3331 YEAH!! we'll dance on the ashes in a drunken frenzy
Making unfinished games and making people pay more for adding characters and extra stages later is one of the problems
Exactly 👍 and it's not cheap to get a complete game. I remember a time when you got a game which was complete but had extras which you could access through cheat codes or performing certain actions or choices or paths etc. And there was no hidden charges - retro times sigh 😂
People used to talk about how awesome a game is, now they talk about how many glitches there are and how they can't play their brand new game online
Making buggy games to release remasters later on
Let it crash. We've got retro.
People want to play new stuff too
Agree. I'm old school as well.
let it *buuuurn*
Amen to that.
Recently I’ve come round to your thinking. Been emulating a lot of stuff. It’s great.
Somehow, some way, history looks like it's repeating itself. In my opinion, most people will go back to their games that don't have strangleholds with live service or always online attached to them.
So true.
yep. the way it should always have been
That could be why a lot of games are getting remakes now. To "update" them to have those modern "amenities"
I’m 45 and just my backlog alone can keep me occupied the rest of my life. Not including games I play every year. I have a few I play every fall/halloween. I’d be good
You are me except I won’t be 45 til November.
Same lol (but 43 yo)
50 here 😬
I’m 57, and I am in the same situation as you. I have a HUGE backlog to keep me busy for the rest of my days.
The “message” doesn’t affect me at all.
What kinds of games do you in your backlog gramps?
I hope we are cause Gaming needs a dire Reset
ABSOLUTELY WE ARE.
The video game crash of 1983 (known in Japan as the Atari shock) was a large-scale recession in the video game industry that occurred from 1983 to 1985, primarily in the United States. The crash was attributed to several factors, including market saturation in the number of video game consoles and available games, many of which were of poor quality.
Now we are bombarded by games of questionable quality, cheating microtransactions and straight up clickbait targeting our PC, consoles and even our smartphones.
I'm glad you made this topic because I considered this situation years ago but never went anywhere with it.
Didn't expect to see you here 😁
2 video game crash saved by Nintendo, i see the current 3rd video game crash will be save by Nintendo once again.
then the new crash would be called the NinPlayX crash
“Hey SEGA! Great opportunity for you to make an epic comeback/takeover!”
Ask Creative Assembly how that is going.
Nintendo is going to defeat them again.
@@PrinceKatamari2004
Nintendo never killed Sega. That was Sony. Sega and Nintendo are rivals, not enemies. When Sega and Nintendo fought there is no clear winner, but it was the gamers that won. Sega should come back and tear down Microsoft and Sony so it can be Nintendo and Sega slugging it out again.
@@jaysherman2615 SONY never killed SEGA and why SEGA is still around, although Nintendo did defeat SEGA by Nintendo outlasting SEGA in the console space.
@user-kj7pm1yh5l This is a child’s view of the corporate economy.
Please comment on this when you are an adult in 12 or so years.
When the crash does come, I will welcome it with open arms.
Forced DEI, the agenda, *drinker’s voice THE MESSAGE* , Sweet Baby Inc, gaming devs lashing out on fans when the game doesn’t do well, censorship, poor gaming quality, micro transactions etc.
The video game crash NEEDS to happen
Crash or Nuclear Winter. We shall see! 🕹
Yes, we are. The first crash happened because of the market was flooded with terrible games.
What is happening now? Our market is flooded with terrible games.
Crash incoming.
This has been said since at least 2010 if not earlier.
Guess what? No crash. Your understanding of the crash of 1983 is also… superficial at best.
im saying this for 4 years i hate fking woke developers
@@jccle7503 People like you need to sit down and shut up. Nobody cares what you say.
Well everybody is forgetting that Nintendo is the only one that’s been immune to this and like before with the first video game crash Nintendo will swoop in and save gaming history will repeat itself.
@@Adamtendo_player_1 Everybody's "forgetting" that because it's not true.
Nintendo were not "immune" to the crash of 1983 because that was an American-specific event and _they weren't in that market yet._
Nintendo are not immune to market changes and bad decisions. The failure of the Wii U that almost led to them being pushed out of the console market if not for the Switch should've clued you in on this. However, ignorance seems rife within these comments.
We are in a "CEOs and shareholders greed are ruining the thing we love"
Except when companies fail or make decisions that create backlash, shareholders sell.
If the industry does crash (I don't think it will) then they aren't going to stick around and be shareholders. In fact, they'll be the first to say "change or bye our money".
Unlike consumers, a lot of investors will NOT just keep buying a dying company or a poorly run one. Only consumers keep feeding bad practices, which is why we are in this mess in the first place - consumers accepted it and spend their money.
If they would have said no to loot boxes and all this service bs, it wouldn't exist.
At 50 years old I am mostly focused on building my retro library and rom collections for emulation. It doesnt stop me from buying carts and discs as I want to own my games physically. Online gaming , gaming services, in game purchases will never be something I will be involved with so my days of modern gaming are quickly coming to an end.
My son, 20, just isn't finding all that many new games he is interested in. He has been replayi ng the "souls" games as well as Bloodbourne.
Your son has great taste.
Corporate greed is creating a new video game crash, just like before. And the indie games will rise, like Activision with Atari. Now they are the corporate xd
Considering we're being slapped in the face with "the message" with a lot of games now I wouldn't be surprised
Lol, I heard "The Message" in critical drinker voices 😂
@@victor_silva6142 MODERN
AUDIENCES
Of course a CD fan would have no understanding of any of this.
But games have had political messages in them since the inception of games.
Missile Command has “the message” to put it like your favourite Scottish grifter.
The only difference is the messages that _you personally_ dislike.
@victor_silva6142 what a pathetic reply, couldn't you have come up with anything better than a flimsy insult? you wet lettuce 🤣
@zephyr8072 are you high rn?
Wasn't everyone cheering when MS started buying publishers? What happened to the cheers? Oh are they realizing MS doesn't give a hoot about what players want, they just care about revenue? Awesome
I was hoping they might impose some standards of quality control on Bethesda, which I will fully admit was extremely naive on my part
I wasn't happy, Xbox has just sucked right after the 360.
no.. we were bad actors who have thousands of games we havent even touched yet in our backlog and just want to see it all *burn*
Then Microsoft is killing publishers I
a big example being firing those big name developers. Vs Goku and Vegeta.. uh Nintendo and Sony who do shared exclusivity for some titles.
Same. People including myself though MS would start managing the companies. But instead they let them mismanage themselves then close studios. They're worse than SEGA
I think we are in a videogame that is crashing.
Life i like a really bad VR game which has a lot of unfair difficulty spikes, unfair mobile like micro-transactions, and has very severe glitches to the point where a very serious 200 GB patch is needed to fix everything. Granted, it can still be a fun game at times, but if you aren't careful, the micro-transactions will make you go broke and you will get severe motion sickness as your controllers start blinking because you forgot to charge them last night as one of the enemies in the game steals the DLC car you paid $10.99 for in real money.
Well said
actually, that make A LOT of sense...on so many levels!!!!
I hope so to be honest. Video Games feel so much more soulless as time goes by. They are vessels for mere money, profits and cash grabs these days. Back in the 90's and pre 2010's they felt like love and passion were still being poured into them. Maybe just maybe if a crash happens they'd learn their lessons. Then in a few years maybe 5 there will be a reassurance of video games again full of heart and passion like that which modern indie devs are putting into their games.
Nintendo reminds me of Assyria after the Bronze Age Collapse; they also seem to be the strongest power in the aftermath and in prime position to expand.
Nintendo is really the ONLY video game company, Sony is an electronic company that has a division in electronic hardware video game and software entertainment and Microsoft is a computer company that has a division in computer hardware video game and software entertainment. Sony and Microsoft are not video game companies. They just have divisions dedicated to video games. 🎮
This isn't like the first video game crash that happened in 1983 (granted, I will argue it's really 1984 since 1984 is when the general public actually saw the destruction and companies officially folded, but I digress) but this is more similar to the SECOND video game crash (the one a lot of people forget about). The second video game crash happened during early to mid 1996. A lot of people overlook it because the original Playstation (which made it's worldwide debut outside of Japan during September 1995) was a huge hit during early 1996, but everyone else was having a crash of some sort during early 1996. Atari went out of business because of the Atari Jaguar and discontinued the Jaguar,
the 3DO got discontinued,
the CD-i got discontinued almost worldwide by 1996 (it was still "alive" in the Netherlands beyond 1996, but barely).
the Sega 32X was discontinued while it became clear that the Sega Saturn was in huge trouble due to the Playstation drastically outselling it during holiday season 95,
the Nintendo Virtual Boy was declared a massive bomb by early 96 when holiday season 95 sales were revealed and Virtual Boy was discontinued by mid 96,
the Neo Geo CD was DOA when it arrived in North America during early 1996, etc.
For this THIRD video game crash of 2024 (most likely during 2025 or early 2026 when we see the results)
1) Xbox will die (it's already having problems, but it will get worse and the brand will die)
2) PS VR 2 will die (it's already having problems, but it's going to get much worse)
3) the rest of the VR market like Quest will die (and I LOVE VR, but it's severely expensive for most people)
4) Playstation 5 and Switch 2 will survive (Playstation 5 survives because it gets a monopoly on HD consoles due to the death of Xbox and Switch 2 survives because Nintendo has it's own corner of the market unique to them), but A LOT of second party studios and MANY third parties will die (Ubisoft will most likely be the first to die, followed by many others).
5) Somehow, Evercade will still survive, but will remain in it's own little niche corner.
So not like the crash of 1983 (arguably really 1984), but more like the 1996 crash (the second crash).
On a side note,
some people will point to all of those Pong clone consoles plummeting to their doom (around the 1977 launch of the Atari VCS / 2600) as a crash, but I argue that was NOT a crash, it was more of a natural evolution from Pong clone consoles to cartridge based consoles like Atari 2600, Magnavox Odyssey 2, even failed ones like Fairchild Channel F, etc.
Okay, that's my essay writing of the day. LOL.
Nintendo NEEDS the Switch successor to work, by the way. They no longer have a handheld backup at this point.
I appreciate how much this post reads like a malstrom reader email by the way
That’s… not a crash. That was a lot of failures due to bad marketing and bad hardware.
The Virtual Boy in particular was a bomb due to being ill-conceived at best, a side project by Gunpei Yokoi that was taken over and rushed out as a product long before it was ready due to greed.
This was fairly common for the era where companies wanted to either cash in on the expanding games market or expand their investments, but was in no way a crash.
Nah I definitely don't see xbox dying anytime soon despite all these layoffs and horrible decisions they've been making recently.
@@iraford5788 Also Xbox is integrated with Microsoft Windows 11, so they will not let this brand die so easily.
@@iraford5788now I’m not so sure. For sure MS invested to much in gaming to just say hey we are just abandoning this business (investors would not like it). But the future of the console taking into consideration sales I’m not so sure. Also if they keep making poor decisions one after another it is possible (though unlikely) they will run this branch of their business to the ground.
Old Snake: Microtransactions!
You got that right.
Not me personally, I just play retro games 🐢
This. I play my PsVita and old PC games only now
Just like 1983, it's self-inflicted by the companies releasing video games.
As mostly an indie and retro gamer, I'm not too worried
Imagine making games that people enjoy playing, that simply have a reasonable budget.
Literally no one asked for A list Hollywood actors to do VA work for video games, or professional models to do modeling work.
We were fine with the studio devs doing those jobs.
Was it cheesy? Yes.
but THE GAMES WERE FUN.
The problem is that if gaming crashes it'll be the smaller development studios and publishers that disappear. It won't be the monster publishers like Ubisoft, EA, Activision/Blizzard and so on that will go away.
The biggest problem with modern gaming is gamers putting up with horrible practices like DLC on disc, loot boxes/pay to win and paying for online play that has emboldened these companies to push them even more to the point where companies like Take Two even have their own monthly fee based subscription (GTA +).
To put it succinctly, gamers screwed gamers by continuing to support these tactics by these companies.
Exactly, I'm not sure if most people realise there's a big distinction to be made between the publishers and the actual developers.
It's the developers that take the bad rap and the brunt of any failures, when it's the publishers who are responsible for rinsing them.
My great nephew showed me a PS5 that was "Digital Only" I nearly vomited.
"The Roman Empire Fell to Gothic Titties" - Lady Decade, MAY 2024
she isn't entirely wrong tho
I’m glad my parents never got rid of my old consoles and games. I recently went to my dads and dug up my old stuff and cleaned it up and took all my old gaming stuff along with my old VHS tapes. I’m currently in the process of making my guest room into a straight up gaming/entertainment room.
Modern gaming have become a big money making scheme. This is a shame because when I grew up the games I owned was made to entertain the player with great stories, fun gameplay and the games was not rushed to meet a deadline that was impossible to meet in the first place.
This became a issue very quickly when almost every console and pc got access to a internet connection because developers decided to finish their projects after release via patches and many games was unforunately abandoned while being unfinished if that cash flow dried up.
The main objective of almost every aaa game the last few years is making the most money for as little effort as possible.
This is achieved by selling skins, dances, battle passes, gambling and dlc packs and it's become so bad that some games actually have dlc packs on launch day which means the developers intentionally locked out the content.
I do enjoy some multiplayer games but the recent Playstation exclusives that have been ported to pc really appeal to me.
No microtransactions everywhere in those games and they provide long stories with many sidequests and the games are usually very well optimized with no gamebreaking bugs that I have encountered.
Nintendo also make amazing games in my opinion the Legend Of Zelda games on Nintendo Switch are both among the best games I have ever played. I feel like they still care about the games they make and that they actually are a passion project instead of a means to grab a quick buck.
I am not surprised that we may be heading towards a video game crash.
I don’t think this is a crash… for indie and AA games anyways. I think that what is happening is that the AAA gaming part of the industry is collapsing in on itself, and all of the smart gamers aren’t buying what they sell anymore. People are learning not to trust these companies anymore because we’ve been burned too many times by these big corporations. People are tired of bad practices. You can only expect these kinds of tactics to work so many times before even the most diehard of fans give up.
Nintendo still hasn’t revealed its plans after August, let alone their Switch successor that they just confirmed is officially coming a few days ago.
My boys and I have been speaking about this for some time and you cover it masterfully! Another great video. Thank you!
I'm retired from modern gaming and everytime i see stories about gaming lately, i'm HAPPY to remain as such. On another note, anyone else spotted the Sega Genesis action figures lately? Altered Beast and Streets of Rage figures are something i did NOT expect to see on modern store shelves. Whoa.
Mega Drive*
Retired? What was it, your job?
Sorry to shatter your grizzled mentor stereotype but there’s absolutely no nobility in choosing to not play videogames. Nobody cares.
What matters is: You had a blast, right? Me too. 😃 I’m grateful to have experienced the rise of videogames from beeps and boops
@@CursedWheelieBin There's only (1) person that cares about my modern gaming retirement: You.
Thanks. I do my best.
You're missing a key element to Square Enix losing so much money. They released about 15 games in a time span of 6 months and tried charging full price for all of them.
They just don’t come up with good ideas anymore. I feel like we need a 70s 80s run. There was a lot of good ideas that haven’t been touched yet
If you limit yourself to only AAA games then yes. Between conditioning users to prefer live service and free to play games, micro-transactions and dlc, and basing purchases around digital storefront sales what we’re seeing right now is the direction AAA has always been going in. And like the North American Crash of ‘83 companies are going all in on the popular trends, replace quickly made knock offs of popular games with mobile and live service games.
However there are two key differences: one is AAA being no longer the only game in town and the second is that folks are more educated now than us Americans back in the 80’s were in this hobby. The Internet and cheap development tools like Game Maker Studio, Unity, and Unreal have made indie studios a viable alternative. I think we’re at the start of a new Indie Renaissance and that the corporate world is going to experience a culling. Games like Sea of Stars and Chain Echoes are just the beginning.
Luckily I don’t care about AAA games. It’s all about accessibility innovation and creativity which Nintendo excels in all free Nintendo has the right idea with their approach with the switch and it’s successor and Sony and Microsoft will be wise to copy Nintendo if they wish to survive, especially Sony because Xbox, could still limp on because of Microsoft and their billions.
I bloody well hope we are in a gaming crash. I'm sick fed up of these money grubbing companies! higher and higher prices with lower and lower quality and if we have the gall to complain we labelled an endless list of ist's and phobes. Xbox has went increasingly woke over the years and we are just waiting for the final nail in the coffin. I just hope the industry completely collapses before Sony has any chance of profiting from it, they are just as bad as xbox.
I just know that I only buy retro games because that's the best gaming era (precisely up until the first years of the third millennium)
Since a few years ago I got into 'dungeon crawl' boardgames ... often spending 200 to sometimes even around 800 for all in.
Yet I can hardly name a single new vid game I bought and/or played last 2 years. I've mostly been working on my backlog, like DQ11. Except some retro games on my Vita, which I revived recently.
I'm looking more forward to have all my old consoles connected again and rdy for streaming than any new release .. par maybe Metroid 4, but never finished the 2nd and hardly played the 3rd...
I hope so. We need quality games again
Well not just video games....
From my perspective, you're correct, but also analyze how the first crash was also affected by economics. 1977 brought about a revolution in gaming with the Atari VCS (later known as the 2600), because it had brought the idea of video games to the home, and later served as an alternative to going to the arcade.
Regrettably, at the same time came the electronics revolution as computers were no longer the giant hulking, tape playing machines, where they began in offices, and would later be made available for homes thanks to the Commodore 64 and Atari 400 making the scenes. Though a bit more expensive than consoles, the early PCs, where every electronics company was putting out there own, was more economical than consoles, since one could do more than just play games, you could program, word process, save data, as well doing other tasks.
Because of this, gaming companies attempted competing with the home computer, by attempting to modify their systems into makeshift computers. With only the Colecovision ADAM actually succeeding, the crash hit because about that time when Apple came onto the scene, people were no longer purchasing cartridge games, but instead computer games which were cheaper and readily available, also before anti-piracy came into existence, people could share computer games with one another.
We know this thanks to your episodes showing the Nintendo Advanced System which had a keyboard and save devices, as well as how the Famicom itself once had a disk drive and keyboard, since Nintendo and Sega used the computer craze to help revive the industry. In fact, the Xbox itself was designed for PC gamers who did not want to trick out their system just to play a game, and was the first to have an actual hard drive.
But I digress, I suspect the next crash will be imminent, but ironically, feel the Big N may survive with their upcoming next Switch.
I'm a lifelong gamer that hasn't even bothered to buy a new gen console yet. Still on PS4, and enjoying a crazy backlog of games on my retro systems with some Everdrives and old used gamecube discs. So yea, I'd say the industry has failed to convince me that I need any brand new games at all.
Nintendo do gaming right, I got into gaming because they were fun and could go places tv and movies couldn't. The mainstream only got into gaming once they started becoming like...TV and movies lol. Depressing.
Excellent point and well stated.
I like the older video games because I can pop one in and play.
AAA publishers have crossed the "cunt event horizon" where it's only profitable to release worse, and worse products, at higher prices, with more and more insidious microtransactions, uglier and uglier models, and DEI peppered everywhere. They've had their day in the sun and can only decline.
Meanwhile, independent gaming studios are in ascendance as people realise that games made with love, by un-hamstrung developers are way more fun; The endlessly, overproduced, expensive cinematics, high price voice actors and vast open worlds are not needed. Fun mechanics, likeable characters and good stories are all that's required, and with todays game creation tools, a small studio, or even a dedicated single developer can create something wonderful.
AAA games with preachy characters, potato-faced models and awkwardly crammed-in DEI cringe, that are lousy with microtransaction, unfinished content, buggy content and never deliverd content has, somehow, lost it's appeal. It's almost as if gamers are human beings who don't appreciate being treated like cattle to be milked dry.
Spot on! And best comment.
I think you need a Video Game Boom,
Before you can have a Crash.
Xbox 360 / PS4 era?
We did. It was called Covid. That was the gaming industry's big explosion. Now is the fall.
Another brilliant video. Thank you for your insight.
I feel you're right I caught myself playing older games I missed out on when I was younger vs the new games that are coming out now older games had everything instead of dlc pack after dlc pack
They REFUSE to give the customers what they want.
They make a product, and then tell us to buy it and when they say “buy” they mean rent.
I tuned in expecting to just get an opinion about the video game decline, and ended up getting a very well constructed history lesson going back 2,000 years! Well done!
I predicted in my university thesis 19 years ago that videogames were heading for a crash due to creative stagnation; unless Nintendo were able to innovate the industry into a brighter future and that in any case Nintendo would survive and emerge strongest from a crash to revive the industry.
My prediction was 19 years early.
Yeah the best days are gone but I’m so grateful to have been around to experience the exciting leaps forward like when the PS1 arrived and we’d all lose our minds trying to imagine what the possibilities were. Gaming went from being marketed as a kid’s toy to now Wipeout games having a clubbing vibe, Tomb Raider games having sex appeal, and Resident Evil showing everyday people that gaming can be scary. Gaming publications like OPSM and Edge were genuinely enthusiastic too and it came across in their writing. Tribalism, narcissism, bitterness , and corporate sleaze was a long way off.
Affluence tends to invite lethargy and that’s what we’re seeing all across western art and culture in general.
I agree with your analogy. The only thing gaming wise I spend money on consistently anymore is my Final Fantasy XIV subscription. That's literally my entertainment budget each month. I just don't feel like spending a bunch of money on video games.
I have no freakin idea why my first comment got auto-deleted. I didn't swear, didn't use any offensive language, etc... Gotta love the YT algos.
But to answer the question, yes, I think we are in a crash.
And tbh, imho, we NEEDED one -- desperately.
We need a reset. We need to start fresh.
Sometimes they delete or spam comments because of certain words you may have used that they find offensive like if making a political comment, showing support for a conservative party or supporting fossil fuels, being a climate change denier or using pro-nouns rather than generalising in a comment is all red flags for RUclips.
Short answer, yes. Nintendo will emerge strongest from the aftermath, like they did 40 years ago.
Pfhaha.Yeah, sure.
I love how the usual crowd forget all the stupid shit Nintendo has done.
@@zephyr8072not quite as stupid as Woke Sony and a hubristic Microsoft that has become the videogame equivalent of AEW's Tony Khan.
@@zephyr8072Nintendo has their problems but they are in a way better position to survive the AAA crash better than most companies.
They certainly aren't invincible, of course.
@@blitzerblazinoah6838 “Woke”.
Yeah you’re just another drone who’s opinion is of no value.
Honestly i can see that. Just depends on the launch of their next system. A lot is riding on it.
At the moment they have the second best selling console. Close to beating the first which is ps2.
The hardware they are selling is still at full price as it released in 2017. And its still selling well. Hardware was outdated to begin with so they making a shit ton on sales. And their big ips are more profitable than ever.
So profitable that they are expanding to other mediums. The mario movie was just declared the most profitable movie of 2023. Beating barbie and oppenheimer.
And it just released their park at universal. Mario is for sure on the same level as mickey mouse.
And nintendo just collecting checks along the way
I feel so sorry for all the people who have lost there jobs, it's crazy that given how much money the video games industry earns they still attempt to justify lay offs. Having said that I hope the video games industry does crash. Greed has taken over and all the people at the top really have benefited from this. We should have seen the warnings when "micro transactions" became a thing. We didn't and now it has gone too far in my view.
When companies representatives believe that providing their customers products that they know the customers want is lower on their list of priorities than accepting the hundred dollar dear to hit themselves in the balls from a man in the back alley behind their company headquarters, you know the industry is screwed.
You're absolutely correct.
Corporate greed ruins stuff we love, again.
I bought a PS5 because I felt I needed to, but have not purchased one game for it! I'm happy with my PS+ stuff. Honestly,, everything is a rehash of stuff I played years ago.
I am however, having a blast playing retro games on my mini PC and TV. Original ideas, no micro-transactions, no endless updates or 10GB+ first day fixes.
Also almost everything is available on PS4, there's just a handful just for PS5
Couldn't of said that any better... I have an XBSX and I play my Retro Hand-held much much MUCH more then I play my XBSX
No, game developers just became too emotional, their companies became griddy, and Game Journalists became little toddlers, that complain to the Higher Ups when we tell them to take it easy.
Yup
I have to choose carefully between a new triple A game or eating. So I often pass on assasin creed or final fantasy games that I remember having already played.
Creativity in videos games started to die in 2005 when the ps3/360 generation started i think. less and less people take risks, and try to make unique experiences. when a popular game is created. other companies will just try to make clones of that.
happened with call of duty, gears of war and halo.
i'm glad indie game developers have gotten more common in recent years. we need them to bring back the passion ,the fun and the diversity of games. that bigger studios have forgotten or won't take the chance on.
There are lots of games to still play we should be okay .
honestly this is makes the most sense on what is going on with these Companies especially after XBox's recent announcement, as a Shareholder myself (not of XBox or any gaming company) I for one worry more about the long term profits to be had than any short term income, as this plays to the Shareholders who intend to sell their shares as soon as they think it is profitable to do so, so for companies to pander to the temporary shareholders like this means they in the upper seats probably have a vested short term interest themselves (often leading to insider trading ??) my point is, long term efforts pay off far better than short term gold digging of companies and all I see in the Gaming Industry right now is what you highlighted, companies who got a massive boost from the Pandemic and now seem to think they can keep that going in a market that cannot carry or afford their delusional desires the Companies are in need a leadership change who understand that more costs to consumers in a depleting market means less profits here and now, so they axe studios who were bought up to make money, and by axing them then can no longer make that money, and also axing the companies means not selling the studios so no cash boost there either. I am sure there are more qualified people who know much more than I do about this, but this is what I see from my own experiences as a shareholder, as a gamer who loves games and has played since the days before Commodore Computers, (yep I am that old) modern games studio are being pushed into making what is essentially gambling software, user pays in and gets minimal returns. I am just glad there are a backlog of Solo Player games in my collection I have not played yet, so I should be able to weather the coming storm that will probably kill many of the major gaming corporations. and sadly take some of the oldest and best studios with them.
What Microsoft, Embracer and EA have been doing recently with all the studio shutdowns and mass staff layoffs makes another video game crash like in 1983 more and more likely to happen again.
I say we are, but its primarily of the AAA level of video games. The salvation of the medium is in the independent scene in my opinion. We need to break it away from the huge corporations and encourage the smaller creators to make new things. We do this and a lot of quality should come back to the forefront.
I find it silly that high paid game company executives are not the ones losing their jobs, instead it is the creators, programmers, testers and artists that are being made redundant. They will get to a point where they are not making enough good games, that the rubbish mobile and live service games are not making money and then it will fail.
Video games are not fucking trivial, not for people who absolutely love gaming. And it burns in their soul.
We are beyond dlc transactions. The only problem is the people buying the micro transactions, which is us and the new generation.
It's important to know that if video game release crap in our hand the RPG table top still exist. It's cool, funny a good social interaction and the GM and player can decide for themselves about the dei
How's the saying go? "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it?"
Imagine another industry so tethered to a reliance on evermore expensive shiny technology. There’s fundamentally no difference in gameplay from any Xbox or from a PS2 to a PS5, only shinier more expensive hardware. If people weren’t compelled by developers/publishers to spend exorbitant amounts of money on a new GPU every few years, they might actually have to develop a real business model. Developers who came up during the arcade era had a much stronger understanding of what made an engaging core game loop. Hopefully this crash will we don’t all of those who were never fans and had no passion for the hobby as the veterans of old always had.
Foamstars is dead two months after it's free to play release, and now I have to wait half an hour to find a match. This a Square Enix game, I should have led with that.
No mention of the culture war stuff? A bit of an oversight there.
I think when consoles go to full subscription only it will likely crash. People will go to PC instead.
To me, this seems like the natural result of gaming companies being in business for shareholders rather than for gaming itself. My backlog is grateful. It's finally getting attention.
The only things corporations are good for is ripping people off and then bragging about it on earnings calls, or bitching that people have wised up to their bullshit because they aren’t making enough on earnings calls. As it pertains to the gaming industry, two of the big three are determined to make buying into their platforms pointless. Smart idea. They’ll bitch about that too, when the time comes.
I gonna say it “Go woke go broke!” no one wants to play a game that tries to cram a message down your throat!
So ff7 had no message 🤔
@@greenkoopa how is rebirth selling compared to remake?
As a gamer myself. I can say I've only played about 10 games in the past 12 months and I think I've only bought one as two of them are online battle pass games and the rest I just previously owned.
I'm just not head turned by new games as much as I was.
1:00 In fact I think that for most gamer covid did,nt change nothing to their routine. During all the pandemic I was asking WHY? WHY ? why I work in a so important place that can't close to provide essential ressource ? I want stay at home playing an MMO lollll
I was under the impression that the ‘83 Crash was basically an 🇺🇸 incident. This potential crash is world wide mainly because prior to the success of the NES in the 🇺🇸, the steady increase of video game consoles being produced in 🇯🇵 and maintenance of computer games in Europe. Video games were a niche market and not a legitimate industry.
If the indie community didnt exist games industry woukd have been destroyed years ago
The large companies are spending 200+ million to release a game that is unfinished riddled with bugs, glitches, and micro transactions... then they wonder why people don't want to buy it.
I do think what’s happening in gaming is also the same as what’s happening with film and streaming currently.
People don’t want ridiculously expensive games, nor do we want mandatory subscription or payment-based add-on services. We also don’t want the same old games with the same old engines again and again and again.
We want cheaper, (or at the very least) longer lasting, innovative, exciting games that build upon what came before. Players want greater variety, and ability to connect with friends, with more access to historical libraries that don’t mean emptying the bank. Players don’t want their save data tied to one console or profile, and we want higher visibility of different genres. Players also don’t want characters or storylines to pander to audiences in an unnatural way, (see Suicide Squad: KtJL), and every game becoming an open world online-only experience.
Lastly, we can’t afford the prices. Sonic Superstars, for example, was a £34.99 game at most, not a £54:99 one.
Gaming needs to be affordable, fun, and novel. It’s the reason why retro and indie games continue to surge in popularity, whereas AAA (lol at the name) titles are starting to struggle.
Very, very interesting take on how each of these issues (invasion/war, plague, ecomical strife) follow a predictable pattern that leads to a societal/empire crash. Whether it's the gaming industry or our own bloated and corrupted goverments its undeniable that there is a downward snowball effect occurring. History has shown time and time again that great industries and civilizations crumble from the inside before their collapse from an outside force. Just like a might oak standing for decades in someone's backyard, looking strong and healthy, but being slowly destroyed from the inside by terminates, then during a storm it suddenly crash down on to their home to the shock and dismay of owner and their neighbors. The gaming industry fell back in 1983, not due to a failing economy, plague, or wars, though but due to the corrupted and greedy corporations and developers, who pushed harder and harder to crank out new games faster and faster, while taking resources from their Q/A departments, if they even had any, all the while spendng crazy amounts of their money on advertizments of their next blockbuster. Sounds familiar, doesn't it? It is written in 1 Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." One doesn't have to follow Christianity or any religion to be able to see how accurate this phrase is in the gaming industry or most of the failing industries/governments/organizations throughout the world.
Maybe it time to take the big fish out the small pond.
I have three games lined up for purchase. I don't know what your on about.
Frostpunk 2
Hades 2 and citizen sleeper 2
(A very sequel year)
game companies cranking up game prices to $60, 70, 80 saying people will still buy them... then they start laying off people because sales are way down.
There's never any shortage of amazing indie games. There's such an unreal backlog of older great games too. People shoukd just move their purchasing away from these player hating companies, and start supporting companies and individual game developers that actually respect the gamer culture as a whole.
Legalized Cannabis was also booming in the pandemic, and crashing now.
My Backlog said chill hey 50 years to go 😂
At this stage the industry needs to crash.
There won't be a crash in the video game industry, but with these ups and downs in the industry many classic games and franchises go into limbo, and studios too.
When the first video game crash came, I was devastated. Had a ColecoVision and a small handful of games. When this one finally comes crashing down I have hundreds of physical games and a few emulation boxes with thousands.
The gaming industry is doing this to itself, good riddance.
I find it amusing that large video game corporations would decide to concentrate on mobile games and games as a service, two things I have very little interest in. That doesn't mean that those things cannot be successful. It just means that there is a market that they don't address. Fortunately, there are companies that do address the single player game market. They are known as independent game studios. Also, there seem to be some companies still willing to make big single player releases. Of course, it would probably take me years to get through my backlog even if I didn't purchase another game for that long.
All the Games that are needed already exist and have been made, no one has asked for new games and we will not need them in the future. You can always go back to playing retro games as long as the old games exist
I feel like we have plenty of games to hold us over. Even older games are fun to come back to.
We’d have to define crash. I don’t think it’s remotely comparable to 1983. At that time the crash was calling into question whether or not gaming would be viable moving forward, or if it was just a boom type fad that would fade. We don’t have that question anymore; gaming is clearly and obviously very potentially lucrative, and people are obviously willing to spend massive amounts of money and time on it. It’s not going anywhere. It will shift and change, companies will struggle to keep up with and anticipate trends, but there will always be games and innovators making quality games will always find a way to put out good products that people wanna play
In fall of 2017 I finally bought a PlayStation 3, because I could finally afford it. I only bought three games for it. The Final Fantasy XIII series. While I was stuck at home with a broken ankle I managed to complete all three games. I had been wanting to play Final Fantasy XIII since it's original release but the console and game was out of my price range. Since I couldn't play Pokemon Go because I was in a wheelchair. I finally got to play All three Final Fantasy XIII games. I still have the PlayStation 3 and use it as a DVD player. Those are the only three games I bought for the console. I still have those games too. Growing up with the Atarii then Nintendo and then the Game Boy. Then the Super Nintendo and Sega. Then the Game Boy color and PlayStation. After that the Nintendo 64 which is probably my favorite. I had the Sega CD and Dream Cast as well. I also bought the Game Boy Advance. When I heard about the PlayStation 2 and Game Cube. I was starting to get aggravated about another flipping console. I bought the Game Cube the games were fun but the controller was awful. It resembled the PlayStation controller and I hated it. So after the PlayStation 2 had been out for a few years I finally bought one. The games were okay but I found myself playing PlayStation One games on it mostly because I liked them better than the PlayStation 2 games. Then I bought a Nintendo DS. I found myself playing Gameboy Advance games more on the DS than DS games. My brother bought the Nintendo Wii and I tried it and hated it. Why does Nintendo always come up with some new goofy controller with each system??? Now I just play games on my Android phone. With Pokemon Go and their new remolding of the graphics it rendered the game unplayable on my $30.00 six months old phone. I'm not good with phones either losing them or dropping them and they break. So I get whatever technology has to offer for $30.00 as far as phones go. I remember my first touch screen phone. It was winter and the touchscreen wouldn't respond because it was cold outside. So I threw the phone as hard as I could into the woods by my apartment. And went and bought a flip phone with buttons. I never found that phone I pitched into the woods. But it always made me laugh looking in that direction. In 2016 I finally bought another touchscreen phone to play Pokemon Go. That phone lasted a year then I bought another touchscreen phone but it seems like about every 12 months I have to get a new one because the technology gets out of date. Anyway I think you're right about a video game crash. I wasn't interested in the PlayStation 4 or 5. I still have a 3, 2 and One. The PlayStation 2 and One no longer work. I never liked the XBOX at all. I played it at a friend's house and couldn't stand the controller. It feels like a bulky baby toy. My Laptop I bought New in 2012 still has Windows 7 on it. It still works but my friend gave me a Newer Laptop for free with the current Windows version on it and I hate it because I have trouble navigating the new version of Windows. I can't even figure out how to play a DVD on it. But that's the way technology seems to go. It's only good for about six months before it's obsolete. And the constant new console and new controller stuff is getting old. Anyway have a great day._
I had the same feelings about the PS2/Gamecube era. Games started to feel like assembly-line "entertainment products" instead of creative expressions.
I've had better luck with my cheapo "Walmart special" smartphones but I also prefer Windows 7 on my laptop. (I'm on the verge of upgrading though because modern websites take forever to load in Win 7 for some reason now.)