Why Ukraine Giving Up Nukes was a GOOD Idea

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  • @jacobrafferty4909
    @jacobrafferty4909 2 года назад +730

    The nuclear arms race is like two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five. I think Carl Sagan said that.

    • @4TheFellas
      @4TheFellas 2 года назад +30

      fantastic analogy

    • @AllisterCaine
      @AllisterCaine 2 года назад

      @@4TheFellas on one hand yes, but also hell no. It doesn't do justice to the psychology of the thing. Nuclear weapons are distant, as is the enemy. You have bunkers for politicians who light the fuse. The actors have a false sense of security while it is millions others who die before them having never seen or personally held one of the matches.

    • @anatomicallycorrectmuppets8180
      @anatomicallycorrectmuppets8180 2 года назад +30

      Carl Sagan also sent earths home coordinates into the vastness of space for any potential alien fleet to find and come wipe us out. Not exactly who I’d be quoting.

    • @4TheFellas
      @4TheFellas 2 года назад +28

      @@anatomicallycorrectmuppets8180 And past great men have done horrible things, it doesn't make them good people, yet it doesn't erase the good they've done or said.
      Essentially, don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

    • @YouTubestolemyhandlethosemofos
      @YouTubestolemyhandlethosemofos 2 года назад +53

      @@anatomicallycorrectmuppets8180 yeah like alien's couldn't track radio waves regardless of what message they were containing. I doubt Carl Sagan will be the downfall of humanity. More likely people who struggle with logic...

  • @Dinoplank
    @Dinoplank 2 года назад +556

    " The assurances included the promise to have all sides respect the indepence, sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine "
    Wow, I am sure everyone respected this rule and Ukraine was never attacked by any country after this .

    • @yahhoo69
      @yahhoo69 2 года назад +49

      Also, "Ukraine will be a neutral state and would never join any block". Both sides to be blame

    • @Tavemanic
      @Tavemanic 2 года назад +32

      @@yahhoo69 Ukraine was only considering

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide 2 года назад

      Devil's advocate: they were attacked because they were forming military alliances with the west when part of the agreement was to remain neutral.

    • @justtrevor6004
      @justtrevor6004 2 года назад +65

      @@yahhoo69 Ukraine is *NOT a part of Nato. Hence why they were attacked. Were you not paying attention?

    • @justtrevor6004
      @justtrevor6004 2 года назад

      also let me stop this in its tracks. If ukraine joined nato that would give nato a foothold right at Russia's doorstep. This is the standard excuse for war-criminal apologists. Hello!? Russia has over 6000 nukes ensuring NO ONE EVER invades them. In fact no one has ever attempted to since ww2. Not even after the union's collapse.
      Also. ICBM's are a thing. (Intercontinental) what does that mean? means you can strike from far away, you don't need to be right next door but again as stated above: Russia's nuclear shield already ensures they're protected from invasion.

  • @Tweaks____
    @Tweaks____ 2 года назад +855

    It is what I think

  • @g.o2092
    @g.o2092 2 года назад +391

    "Lets face it, no one has tried to liberate nations that have Nukes" 😅
    Couldn't have been said better 0:12

    • @ashenshield1712
      @ashenshield1712 2 года назад +11

      Doesn't mean no one will!.

    • @VandalAudi
      @VandalAudi 2 года назад +4

      Case in point : North Korea.

    • @jag0937eb
      @jag0937eb 2 года назад +2

      @@ashenshield1712 Do you think anybody would invade north korea?

    • @bigfo2629
      @bigfo2629 2 года назад +1

      the West would of never overthrow the Ukrainian with this puppet.

    • @אוריה-ז7ע
      @אוריה-ז7ע 2 года назад

      Only thing is that this is not true, 1972 war, Egypt attacked Israel while they knew Israel had nukes.

  • @metatechnologist
    @metatechnologist 2 года назад +212

    "You can't scare comedians, even with aggression" 😆😆😆

    • @Youngdolphforlife
      @Youngdolphforlife 2 года назад +6

      This gonna have thousands of likes

    • @SomeRandomUserrr1r23.
      @SomeRandomUserrr1r23. 2 года назад +3

      GUYS REMEMBER WHEN WHEN AND FELL OFF THE RESTAURANT WITH ME AND DROWNED WHEN YOUR MOM'S TV?! 😂🤣

    • @dmta8
      @dmta8 2 года назад +2

      made me spit my beer out all over my laptop

    • @ayyorta
      @ayyorta 2 года назад

      @@SomeRandomUserrr1r23. ?

    • @u.nforcesalx9892
      @u.nforcesalx9892 2 года назад

      you're right
      best way to do so
      is turn a blind eye

  • @HairyTrigger
    @HairyTrigger 2 года назад +224

    Seeing Wargame: Red Dragon gameplay when showing the Russians conducting an unsupported Airborne assault damn near made me spit out my coffee. 60% of matches in that game was Heli rushes lol

    • @chelseaisking
      @chelseaisking 2 года назад +5

      best tactical strategy ever though

    • @johnmackenzie3871
      @johnmackenzie3871 2 года назад +3

      "Unsupported Airborne assault" isn't an issue for VDV, as they win battles regardless.

    • @HairyTrigger
      @HairyTrigger 2 года назад +18

      @@johnmackenzie3871 in game? Maybe. Real life? Lmao no.

    • @johnmackenzie3871
      @johnmackenzie3871 2 года назад +7

      @@HairyTrigger Oh right, I forgot, you live in a fantasy world where the Ghost of Kiev took out the VDV that captured the Hostomel airport. Stick to video-games in that case.

    • @stefanusbayu1426
      @stefanusbayu1426 2 года назад +7

      Usually with same result too. The VDV got cut off from the rest of the team

  • @hamentaschen
    @hamentaschen 2 года назад +139

    I seriously love how timely your content has been of late. I like to think I have a better-than-average understanding of things. You always give things I do know more context... along with filling in lots of gaps in my knowledge and certainly, making me realize some things are indeed not what I think! Peace.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  2 года назад +25

      We try 😅👍🏼

    • @garyp4374
      @garyp4374 2 года назад +1

      you'd be better off thinking for yourself then letting everybody tell you what to think

    • @hamentaschen
      @hamentaschen 2 года назад +2

      @@garyp4374 I do think for myself. Nobody tells me what to think, especially no know-it-all like yourself in the comment section of a video. I am just always open to learning more. I do not care where or how I learn, I just like to learn. NWYT always teaches me things. That is a good thing. Why are you here? To tell people like me what I should think? Seems you are but a hypocrite. Just saying.

    • @Relocklabs
      @Relocklabs 2 года назад +4

      @@hamentaschen don't feed the trolls

    • @garyp4374
      @garyp4374 2 года назад +1

      @@hamentaschen calm yourself a mate I am not telling you how to think . with your overwhelming intelligence you have misunderstood what I was saying

  • @MrVitek-ut8jq
    @MrVitek-ut8jq 2 года назад +138

    As a Ukrainian, I can say that most of the video is true, and the decision to give up strategic nukes was a good one. But the tactical nukes should have been kept, as they are not that expensive and are still an amazing threat to Moscow.

    • @MrVitek-ut8jq
      @MrVitek-ut8jq 2 года назад

      @@TechMasterRus I know better what is best for us. Zelenskyi knows better too. Our people know better, and he was chosen. We have the most powerful and competent military on the continent. We are a 40 million nation, we are richer, smarter and much more free than muscovites. We have, and will fight for our rights to decide what to do, even about nuclear weapons. So better focus on yourself and your country, as the only clown here is you.

    • @IsmailV88
      @IsmailV88 2 года назад

      @@TechMasterRus your a russian troll posting pro russia everywhere.

    • @numbawan9527
      @numbawan9527 2 года назад

      Funny how US told Ukraine to give up their nukes and now US not giving the protection that was promised.

    • @IsmailV88
      @IsmailV88 2 года назад +1

      @@numbawan9527 I think it was a independent guaranteed from the US and Russia but it does suck.

    • @notak4046
      @notak4046 2 года назад +9

      Especially since Ukraine had TU-22M.

  • @korakys
    @korakys 2 года назад +108

    This might be your best video yet. Just one clarifier on security guarantees, they weren't worth anything in the end as during the first invasion of 2014 the UK and US did little to nothing to militarily help Ukraine. At that point the agreement was effectively dead, this new assistance cannot be considered as being made because of the original security guarantees.

    • @BaSiC47
      @BaSiC47 2 года назад

      The US and UK did nothing? Watch the video again. They sold tons of equipment to Ukraine and were forcing it into Nato.

    • @korakys
      @korakys 2 года назад +6

      @@BaSiC47 The first time Russia invaded, in 2014, they basically did nothing.

    • @TamagoHead
      @TamagoHead 2 года назад +4

      I 109% agree!

    • @danielheckel2755
      @danielheckel2755 2 года назад +4

      If you read the Minsk agreement, you'd find the security guarantees were protection against NUCLEAR war. Nothing written about conventional war. Lesson: read before you sign.

    • @korakys
      @korakys 2 года назад +12

      @@danielheckel2755 Seems like you are correct, kind of. It's actually only an agreement to make _the UN_ provide security assistance to Ukraine, and since Russia has a UN veto...
      Wow, what a worthless agreement. (It does say Russia is supposed to not attack Ukraine with _any_ weapons as well, which Russia clearly broke, but there is no enforcement mechanism).

  • @MrBoraed
    @MrBoraed 2 года назад +49

    "this might be the bloodiest active combat since ww2 in europe"
    Jugoslavia: Am I a joke to you?
    (about 200k deaths for comparison)

    • @meneldal
      @meneldal 2 года назад +5

      Well it's still ongoing, it's very likely it can go over this number.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +9

      That was one hell of a bloodbath. Decades of suppressed hatred exploded onto the face of the planet. I'll never understand that kind of thing. Don't get me wrong I am very much a hawk. I believe in being prepared for anything no matter what the cost. I don't want to see another Holocaust in this world and I don't want to see another Pearl harbor. That means you have to have a strong defense.
      I know it's one of the few times in modern history that a country broke up with the death of leader then proceeded into a violent civil War. Even during World War II there was a civil war going on. Broz Tito by his indominable will brought Yugoslavia together in post-war Europe and to force of his will alone kept it together until his death. The relative peace in which people lived was lost as they forgot the lessons that he taught them. Don't get me wrong I'm not a strict fan of his but I do respect the man. His negatives are outweighed by his positives during his lifetime that I'm aware of especially in the realm of politics in Yugoslavia.

    • @oscarshen6855
      @oscarshen6855 2 года назад +1

      @@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Yugoslavia was only together because of Tito, he was a good leader, especially in a time a lot of crazy commies running around killing millions of people. However it's just not a self correcting system, it's always going to collapse.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад

      @@oscarshen6855 yeah just senseless waste of life

    • @freshstone4219
      @freshstone4219 2 года назад

      It's already worse than Yugoslavia and Syria.

  • @freshstone4219
    @freshstone4219 2 года назад +71

    Actually, Ukraine didn't just gave up its nuclear weapons, we were forced to do it. Nobody asked us if we want to keep nukes. We had to choose: nuclear weapons or independency. In case if we disagreed with giving up on nukes, we would transform in new North Korea under terrible sanctions

    • @igor_pavlovich
      @igor_pavlovich 2 года назад

      So basically its not only Russia to blame but US too? They forced you to give up on nukes while giving next to nothing in return?

  • @chairde
    @chairde 2 года назад +14

    Well one thing is for sure. Nobody will give up nuclear weapons now.

    • @JG-xm8jy
      @JG-xm8jy 2 года назад +1

      Laughs in Iranian

  • @seraphin01
    @seraphin01 2 года назад +19

    great video, it was indeed not what I thought. I didn't know the ballistic missile had a minimum range, even though it makes total sense if you sit and think about it for a few seconds.. so yeah pretty on point on everything as usual

    • @volox5586
      @volox5586 2 года назад

      Zа Россию

    • @smertvorogam666
      @smertvorogam666 2 года назад

      @@volox5586 zaлупина твоя роися

  • @PT-91_Twardy
    @PT-91_Twardy 2 года назад +28

    Going down a rabbit hole of nuclear-weapons related videos, so I’ll say my thoughts here too.
    It is honestly quite frustrating to me, knowing that the end of it all is far out of my control and instead in the hands of whatever maniac may be in charge. And seeing how we are growing ever closer to our world ending up like a game of DEFCON, it’s only a matter of time before someone who is actually insane enough takes charge.
    It is what it is, I guess. But hey, enjoy things as they are now instead of worrying about nuclear armageddon. There’s no need to get sad about these things, you know?

    • @Acheron666
      @Acheron666 2 года назад

      Think yourself lucky I’m not in control of a nuclear arsenal…….I can guarantee you that there would be no human life left on Earth 🤣.
      Even worse…..What if an animal rights/vegan activist get their hands on nukes.
      They would 100% Nuke us all to save the broccoli and cows.

    • @kybble
      @kybble Год назад

      only 1 country has every used a nuke on another. It was not done on a purely defense purpose either. I trust the other country far more with their nukes than this one. Next time a nuke goes up everyone is sending theirs.

  • @hanseriksson5105
    @hanseriksson5105 2 года назад +11

    ukraine did give 1600 nuclear to Russia under an agreement that Russia did leave ukraine alone. they shouldn't have done that.
    Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️

    • @loneronin7299
      @loneronin7299 2 года назад +1

      I don’t think there was such agreement

    • @hanseriksson5105
      @hanseriksson5105 2 года назад

      @@loneronin7299 look it up and see for yourself

    • @emmaegede1262
      @emmaegede1262 2 года назад +1

      @Hans Eriksson You're a🤡 the control computer codes that could unlock the operation of those ICBMs placed in Ukraine 🇺🇦 could only be accessible by top military officials who were bases in Russia 🇷🇺 (Moscow)

  • @jaygee_90
    @jaygee_90 2 года назад +20

    I'm guessing the intended question was "WHY did Ukraine give up it's nukes?" But maybe its not what I think.

    • @bigfo2629
      @bigfo2629 2 года назад +1

      Ukraine give up it's nukes because they had russia.
      the West overthrow the Ukrainian Government. starting this shit today.
      if Ukraine had nukes the west wont be involve in Ukraine.

    • @numbawan9527
      @numbawan9527 2 года назад +2

      Why? Guess who told Ukraine to give up their nukes.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +2

      The cost of nuclear weapons only begins with their manufacturer. Afterwards you have maintenance, security, safe storage, upgrades and repair, Ukraine could not afford this. That's why they gave up the aircraft too.

  • @moteroargentino7944
    @moteroargentino7944 2 года назад +58

    I still think that they should have kept them. Probably downsizing the arsenal to a manageable number, and dismantling the nukes that they didn't have the codes for, even refurbishing them as conventional bombs. While ICBM's are the deadliest, any nuke is still a big threat.
    Tho, after watching this vid, maybe it was for the better. Nukes or not, a nation should have the means to defend itself.

    • @bunzeebear2973
      @bunzeebear2973 2 года назад +4

      "dismantling the nukes that they didn't have the codes for," meaning ALL THE NUKES. So, they become hazardous waste as their shelf life expires. But, the Ukraine is the industrial site in that they make all the armaments' for Russia. So maybe the barrels for Russia should have a crooked barrel or something like that. A ship that dissolves when placed in water. It won't right away because it has a new coat of paint...so dey never know.

    • @obscureoccultist9158
      @obscureoccultist9158 2 года назад +3

      But Ukraine had none of the codes for the nukes, meaning those nukes were useless to them regardless. Furthermore, nuclear weapons are expensive and constantly need to be maintained as its fissile material does not last as long as we might think. The Ukrainian economy is essentially non existent at independence. I don't blame the Ukrainian government having to prioritize other things rather then maintaining nukes that they don't even have control over.

    • @dr.batman2530
      @dr.batman2530 2 года назад +2

      Counter opinion: India was Similarly poor and corrupt in 1990s. Yet it developed nukes, tested them, suffered from crippling US sanctions and yet didn't budge to US pressure.
      Fast forward now, we're one of the fastest growing economies, soon will be 3rd largest economy and a major military power (more spending than Russia itself). And we still have those nukes (far less in number than Ukraine ever had).
      And, China or Pakistan never dared to invade us. This subcontinent no longer sees tank battles. All conflicts are now localised skirmishes which are de-escalated within days.
      Ask us Indians. The risks involved in keeping nukes is worth it.
      About the codes: if one tries hard enough, he can circumvent them. If Ukraine "couldn't" use their bombs, then Russia/West wouldn't have been so anxious about disarming them so quickly.

    • @TKUA11
      @TKUA11 2 года назад

      Agreed. Nothing signed on paper by Russia should be believed

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm 2 года назад +1

      @@obscureoccultist9158 how long do you think it'd take for a bunch of really clever people to make new pals and replace the ones they didn't have the codes for?
      5 years?

  • @אוריה-ז7ע
    @אוריה-ז7ע 2 года назад +19

    You forgot when Egypt tried to attack Israel at 1972, they knew damn well they had nukes.

    • @Mr.Cool628
      @Mr.Cool628 2 года назад +6

      yes but it was far far from mainland of Israel no one gonna use nuke over siani and maybe if Israel didn't kick back egyptians and crossed the canal then maybe they would consider using

    • @אוריה-ז7ע
      @אוריה-ז7ע 2 года назад +2

      @@Mr.Cool628 Yup you're right, Egyptans stood no chance either way tho.

    • @silversteel9161
      @silversteel9161 2 года назад

      Maybe nukes are fake

    • @igor_pavlovich
      @igor_pavlovich 2 года назад

      You mean when Israel said that it was attacked by some rebels or terrorists and then attacked Egypt?

    • @Benamon9
      @Benamon9 2 года назад

      @@igor_pavlovich Finish reading your history book before you talk bud

  • @vcat417
    @vcat417 2 года назад +3

    1:20 what a great comparison ! Both comedians bounced right back without problems. They are used to hecklers ... no matter what weapons are used against them..

  • @stanislav4607
    @stanislav4607 2 года назад +17

    I hope Ukraine will start investing more money in military and modernization after that war. Otherwise, it would seem like they didn't learn the lesson.

    • @MelvinCruz
      @MelvinCruz 2 года назад

      The USA and European Union Already wasted billions there to cause the war and not to make Ukraine and Russia have peace

    • @wenloom
      @wenloom 2 года назад

      With our corrupt president its, unfortunately, impossible

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  2 года назад +10

      The sinking of the Moskva must have been quite embarrassing for Russia.

    • @TechMasterRus
      @TechMasterRus 2 года назад

      @@NotWhatYouThink not quite. Moskva was rather old ship and didn't have modern Calibr missiles. It had to be retired in 2018 but they prolongated its service. Soon Admiral Nakhimov will finish its modernization and it will be more powerful than the whole Black sea fleet. I hope it will be a new flagship.

    • @solomonokoli212
      @solomonokoli212 2 года назад

      @@Gtmz53fxt56zxc Russia said it evacuated all the sailors on the vessels while in tow, before it sank. They had the time for some evacuations, given the vessel caught fire 'mysteriously' several hours before it sunk. It's doubtful all 500 sailors onboard perished

  • @gavinn.4060
    @gavinn.4060 2 года назад +2

    liking this longer form content my dude

  • @sergiobiloborodov3948
    @sergiobiloborodov3948 2 года назад +5

    The video does not represent a full picture of the nuclear situation. In regards to UA's inability to use and maintain its arsenal this only refers to strategic missiles which would be useless to fight russia anyway. However, tactical arsenal which could be preserved would surely eliminate a war threat from russia's side and would not be a problem for the USA unlike ICBM. Thus I think that UA was actually robbed in 1994 due to a corrupted government and bad planning in the US for the future of Ukraine. There are many aspects worth mentioning and disscussion but not enough text area space to dwell on here.

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 2 года назад +2

    A very excellent analysis of a very complex issue.

  • @Didntwanttomakeauser
    @Didntwanttomakeauser 2 года назад +14

    "Had Ukrainian leaders worked as servants of the people." I see what you did there.

    • @jackboot3946
      @jackboot3946 2 года назад

      Could be applied equally to leaders of other world-dominating countries...

    • @algrayson8965
      @algrayson8965 2 года назад

      What government works as servants of the people?

    • @igor_pavlovich
      @igor_pavlovich 2 года назад

      @@algrayson8965 glorious leader of North Korea works only for his people well being!

  • @puneet9628
    @puneet9628 2 года назад +1

    I would love to see your naration in a big Hollywood movie/series. Man your voice is sooooo soothing for that 🍻🙏🤟

  • @mr.javeline4526
    @mr.javeline4526 2 года назад +3

    The code works not as you think. It could be easily cracked with physical access to the rocket

  • @Doi-
    @Doi- 2 года назад +2

    This war has to of made more yt channels popular, glad to see your content tries ho help people understand

  • @Livlifetaistdeth
    @Livlifetaistdeth 2 года назад +3

    Nothing is ever as simple and straightforward as it seems. Great video.

  • @Native_love
    @Native_love Год назад +1

    BEST ending line on any of your videos! BRAVO!

  • @olegkosygin2993
    @olegkosygin2993 2 года назад +6

    Ukraine's conventional armed forces were so underfunded that by a Ukrainian general's words, they were the LAST priority in allocating funding. "who are we gonna fight, Russia? LOL!" was the prevailing logic.
    Unless Ukraine also had a fully-fledged space program with foreign funding flooding in, it's unconscionable for a nuclear arsenal to persist against their financial woes for three decades.

  • @gyrogearloose1345
    @gyrogearloose1345 Год назад

    Thanks again NWYT, you always do a great job on your stories.

  • @victorsy7063
    @victorsy7063 2 года назад +1

    You cannot scare comedians, even with aggressions.
    Goes to show will slapping Chris.
    Love that

  • @TheDiamondFish
    @TheDiamondFish 2 года назад +15

    “UK, US, and Russia respect Ukraine’s sovereignty”
    Russia on February 24th, 2022: *sike, i lied!*

    • @qaz120120
      @qaz120120 2 года назад +1

      The west funded the coup in 2014 and was the first to infringe in sovereignty

    • @Ayvengo21
      @Ayvengo21 2 года назад

      actually it was February 2014

  • @RobSchofield
    @RobSchofield 8 месяцев назад

    What an excellent, well-written essay. Great!

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 2 года назад +4

    A moment for the SS-18 Satan... The most metal name for a weapon of all time 🤘😈

  • @SkinnerBeeMan
    @SkinnerBeeMan 2 года назад +20

    Ukraine could probably be a nuclear power with modest effort. It's kind of crazy that they did not at least keep some plutonium. It would not take very many weapons to have kept Russia in check. Mariupol for a Moscow suburb? Sounds like a trade. Kiev for the Kremlin? No takes backsies. Russia is acting this way only with the belief that nuclear deterrent keeps them safe

    • @Sanseye
      @Sanseye 2 года назад

      This is why Russia targeted to control their nuclear power plants first, to ensure that no nuclear weapons were produced

    • @SkinnerBeeMan
      @SkinnerBeeMan 2 года назад

      @@Sanseye you realize that's not something you just do. It takes time. The plant they are occupying probably isn't plutonium production capable. That shit RBMK at Chernobyl definitely is made just to make Plutonium and you see they abandoned it. The Russians say one thing do another. Me personally I would have sunk cobalt rods in my reactors the day Crimea was invaded. When I got done with it, nobody would get to have that grain. But what can I say I'm a little more German. And a little less Egalitarian

  • @haev614
    @haev614 2 года назад +6

    So basically US negotiated the "nuke give up agreement" because *the US* was in danger from those nukes!!

    • @jag0937eb
      @jag0937eb 2 года назад

      Not only usa, russia and europe too. And now basically everybody screwed ukrainians. Russians by invading them and usa / europe by not helping ukraine and throwing them under the bus, where they had moral and legal obligation to do so.

    • @mexico7662
      @mexico7662 2 года назад

      Yes, because they were afraid that they might get sold to Iran or other crazy governments.

  • @gustavoraffo489
    @gustavoraffo489 2 года назад +2

    The last sentence was very poetic

  • @ADKaizenProductions
    @ADKaizenProductions 2 года назад +8

    I kinda feel like even if Ukraine had nukes, Russia still would have invaded. It comes to mutual destruction. No one is going to launch a nuke bc they know what will happen... One or more will be coming to visit them too. After seeing the total devastation of Hiroshima atomic bombs, everyone stood in awe of how disgusting it was. That level of negativity will never be used again. Besides we all like conventional war better.

    • @bunzeebear2973
      @bunzeebear2973 2 года назад

      The Russian troops kind of liked the red forests near Chernobyl so took home some dirt and other souvenirs. Kids will be kids.

    • @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul
      @TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul 2 года назад

      Not to mention, Ukraine likely wouldnt have been able to launch them anyways, since they wouldnt have the launch codes, nor be “in control” of the nukes.

    • @augustuslunasol10thapostle
      @augustuslunasol10thapostle 2 года назад

      @@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul they just need the warhead but since they were corrupt and poor as fuck they still wouldn't have been able to launch them except for the tactical nukes

    • @DmitriyLaktyushkin
      @DmitriyLaktyushkin 2 года назад +5

      @@augustuslunasol10thapostle Good thing Ukraine is a major exporter of well educated immigrants. With people like you we definitely could not maintain the western way of life. Ukraine has as much knowledge of nuclear physics as Russia does, too bad the corruption was just as bad.

    • @artiumnihamkin9206
      @artiumnihamkin9206 2 года назад

      @@TheT-90thatstaresintoyoursoul And... during those 30 years they could not replace the keys/control system, right?

  • @petervon7838
    @petervon7838 Год назад +1

    That last line was the most beautiful line I have ever heard in my life.

  • @joeboyd8702
    @joeboyd8702 2 года назад +1

    Great upload. Thank you.

  • @221b-l3t
    @221b-l3t 2 года назад +2

    I think they should gave kept a few dozen modern strategic ones with electronic neutron generators. They easily had the know how to keep them maintained, as they have for years and replenish the fuel if necessary. Plenty of plutonium making know how and reactors. I don't think they would have been sold. Tanks is one thing, H-bombs another.

  • @hydronpowers9014
    @hydronpowers9014 2 года назад +6

    US: Iraq has WMDs
    Iraq, doesn't have WMDs: Gets invades, destroyed and left in ruins
    US: North Korea had WMDs
    North Korea, had nukes: Doesn't get invaded

    • @EasyAL_YT
      @EasyAL_YT 2 года назад

      WMD ≠ Nuclear Weapon.
      Iraq openly used WMD (chemical weapons) against the Kurds and Iran.
      It's not as risky attacking a nation armed with chemical weapons compared to a nuclear armed one.

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 2 года назад +2

      And who supplied the chemical weapons to Iraq? France and the US.
      Very important tidbit of information, wouldn't you agree?

    • @EasyAL_YT
      @EasyAL_YT 2 года назад

      @@Emanon... Information coming from some random on a RUclips comment section is worth less than a stinking turd. Also, no... its not important to the point he was making; he was suggesting Iraq didn't have WMD which is blatantly false.

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 2 года назад

      ​@@EasyAL_YT
      Buddy, I'm not the one hurling scatological insults in the hope that something sticks (pun intended).
      At least I try to contribute with factual information - which you can easily look up. You didn't even bother to do that, did you?
      I didn't provide any sources or links because I assumed it was common knowledge. My bad.
      Secondly, where were the WMD's then when the US invaded in 2003?
      You know, the _entire reason_ for going to war against Iraq?
      Do me the favor of minimal due diligence and either confirm or deny my statements based on factful findings before replying and making a fool of yourself.

  • @lassikokkonen5618
    @lassikokkonen5618 2 года назад +2

    1:30 Finland spotted

  • @trumanhw
    @trumanhw 2 года назад +1

    Your best video (and insights) yet. Thank you.

  • @practicalshooter6517
    @practicalshooter6517 2 года назад +16

    Russia is also helping Ukraine's to rearmament, due to all functioning heavy and light weapons left behind them after leaving the Northern part of Ukraine.

  • @BBanzaj
    @BBanzaj 2 года назад +2

    you do mention the strategic ICBM having a minimal range, but the tactical ones dont have such limit...

    • @BBanzaj
      @BBanzaj 2 года назад

      @@metanumia nah

  • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
    @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +4

    You know the sad part I feel more comfortable with zelinsky having his hand near the button then Putin. I have a sneaky suspicion that Putin has the same mindset as Adolf Hitler. If I can't win I'll take everyone with me.

    • @dmitryhetman1509
      @dmitryhetman1509 2 года назад

      Putin is pathetic subhuman and has nothing to do with Adolf Hitler which was WWI veteran, artist, and capable leader and commander.

    • @dmitryhetman1509
      @dmitryhetman1509 2 года назад +1

      But nuclear weapons everything he has, and he have place to live after nuclear war. His children live in Europe and USA, so usage of strategic nuklear weapons seems unlikely

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад +1

      @@dmitryhetman1509 The things you and I care about is what is called normal. A narcissistic personality, putin, only cares about himself. Normal people don't start wars like this. I had high hopes for Russia when the Russian Federation arose from the former communist state, only see it slip back into a dictatorship. I truly hope the Russian fight to be free and stand vigilant against tyranny.

    • @dmitryhetman1509
      @dmitryhetman1509 2 года назад

      @@JohnRodriguesPhotographer It's not putin, it's russians. They repeat things they did in WWII, and many times before and after. Normal people start wars like Hitler, and fight against military forces like normal war, but rusians like to fight with civilians more.

    • @JohnRodriguesPhotographer
      @JohnRodriguesPhotographer 2 года назад

      @@dmitryhetman1509 based on intercepted radio calls they've been told to do these things. So I would put it more on the high command. However each individual is responsible for their own actions in my view so if someone gets hold of them and does something nasty to them, too bad so sad

  • @mikeh7860
    @mikeh7860 2 года назад

    Good video. Well said

  • @jiemingou2010
    @jiemingou2010 2 года назад +24

    Well, even if the won't explode without a code, strapping it onto a working missle and dumping into your enemy and let radioactive contamination spread over their land is a scary enough deterant.

    • @mememachine5244
      @mememachine5244 2 года назад +5

      Not really, actually not at all. The exclusions zone would be less than Chernobyl and much easier to clean up.
      There's a huge chance that the payload never escapes the housing anyway. Its encased in soft charges anyway.

    • @numalesoybea1348
      @numalesoybea1348 2 года назад +3

      Without reaching critical mass, the radiation from the resulting explosion could be cleaned up with a tractor.

    • @hewhohasnoidentity4377
      @hewhohasnoidentity4377 2 года назад

      Are you aware that the US accidentally dropped nuclear bombs from aircraft multiple times without them exploding?
      Dropping them from aircraft was pure luck none detonated. Oddly a socket fell down the missile silo shaft and came closer to detonating than the aircraft incidents.
      I'm glad we finally learned to leave our toys locked up unless we intend to use them.

  • @kylonr6
    @kylonr6 2 года назад

    0:23 the missle that james may tries to light with a lighter

  • @Superfly7889
    @Superfly7889 Год назад +1

    Correction, the nukes were Russian nukes… red button was controlled from Moscow not from Kiev.. they eventually would have to return them

  • @ABCDEFGHIJKELA...
    @ABCDEFGHIJKELA... 2 года назад +1

    EVERY country on this planet can be blamed for unsavory decisions the past. what matters is where they are NOW.

  • @skidhvh
    @skidhvh 2 года назад +45

    In short: Because they were not ukrainian nucelar weapons, they were owned by soviet union, sponsored by them and developed together with russian engineers.

    • @colRobinOlds
      @colRobinOlds 2 года назад +8

      It all boils down to the fact that Ukraine simpy couldn't afford to maintain nukes at the time, I hope when war ends Zelenskyy will figure something out.

    • @apex_blue
      @apex_blue 2 года назад +9

      In short Ukraine didn’t have the money.

    • @skidhvh
      @skidhvh 2 года назад

      @@colRobinOlds I hope when the war ends he will get arrested and held accountable for all war crimes, civilian casualties, and civilian bombings with Tochka-U involved.
      If he really cared he would use all his stolen money to evacuate civilians, and provide food and medical care to them, so they dont need to live in metro.
      Same with putin, 2 clowns

    • @Critical-Thinker895
      @Critical-Thinker895 2 года назад +1

      @@Gtmz53fxt56zxc Ukraine was corrupt, ... period. Corrupt politicians were robbing the country blind. That's the real story. They didn't hide it.

    • @alfaseeds13
      @alfaseeds13 2 года назад +2

      @@apex_blue North korea is poorer and most of its population is in starvation, but they still can make and maintain nuclear weapons

  • @Ugimara-Imokrasa
    @Ugimara-Imokrasa 2 года назад +1

    I absolutely love this channel.

  • @pav9978
    @pav9978 2 года назад +4

    How things change, ill bet you a drink of choice that this is the last "classic" conflict. By that i mean with man operrated machines. a ~30-40k usd rocketlauncher can and will outperform a 1-2 mio usd tank. The next conflict where ever it will be, will be RC Drones and stuff. more like a video game....

  • @tax905972
    @tax905972 2 года назад

    That hit those choppers shot out the sky

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson7514 2 года назад

    Interesting , Thank You

  • @karelmucha4277
    @karelmucha4277 2 года назад +1

    0:59 Wargame Red Dragon

  • @aaryanairy756
    @aaryanairy756 2 года назад +4

    "What Did Ukraine Give up its Nukes for?"

    • @fullerlink379
      @fullerlink379 2 года назад +4

      @@Gtmz53fxt56zxc Did you not watch the video?
      1. Ukraine don't have the launch code for the nukes, the codes were in Russia so they can't use them anyways.
      2. They had no money to maintain those nukes and thus having better connection to the World seemed like a better choice.
      3. Had Ukraine still have it's nuke today, sure it wouldn't be invaded, but it sure as hell going to be poor AF

    • @aaryanairy756
      @aaryanairy756 2 года назад +1

      @@Gtmz53fxt56zxc I'm really sorry. Actually I wrote that comment not actually asking that question but correcting the title of the video.

    • @TimoteiUA
      @TimoteiUA 2 года назад +1

      @@fullerlink379
      1. Irrelevant. Could be reprogrammed in month or two, only applies to strategic nukes.
      2. Maintaining some already made tactical nukes costs basically nothing.
      3. It's the opposite. One option that was actually negotiated was getting rid of strategic nukes for NATO membership. USA/Russia decided that buying off Kravchuk was better. it wasn't. Even without NATO it wouldn't be worse off than losing tens of thousands Ukrainians for some probable long term improvement.

    • @aaryanairy756
      @aaryanairy756 2 года назад +1

      @@Gtmz53fxt56zxc no issue haha

  • @fallout560
    @fallout560 2 года назад +2

    Did not expect that will smith joke

    • @feritall
      @feritall 2 года назад

      It’s not what you think!

  • @maybe8650
    @maybe8650 2 года назад +1

    Alternate history hub would like to talk to you

  • @attq3980
    @attq3980 2 года назад +3

    Russia would have invaded someone else instead then, maybe Finland?

    • @Drbeattles
      @Drbeattles 2 года назад +1

      Winter war 2: electric boogaloo

    • @bunzeebear2973
      @bunzeebear2973 2 года назад

      It tried that once and Russia got trounced by Finland. The Vikings are a mean bunch of fighters.

    • @dertydan
      @dertydan 2 года назад

      give em 20 years

  • @still_resume
    @still_resume 2 года назад +2

    I played the USSR anthem at my window...Now it’s an Iron Curtain

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 2 года назад +4

    It would gave already helpe the ukrainians if they keep the Strategie bombers

  • @prilep5
    @prilep5 2 года назад +2

    “Cannot scare comedians even with aggression”😂

  • @MrPhoenixWT
    @MrPhoenixWT 2 года назад +10

    Nuclear weapons are actually a good thing as they prevent wars, but also bad as they are the most dangerous towards mankind.

    • @SimonNZ6969
      @SimonNZ6969 2 года назад +1

      That's true until it isn't. Using nukes even defensively might not be worth it even if you're invaded. Would you rather defend your land conventionally, or turn everything in a nuclear wasteland? That might be the options we face in the future, and idk how many nations would actually pick the latter.

    • @Matthew-qt3jk
      @Matthew-qt3jk 2 года назад

      @@SimonNZ6969 it happened already three times. Yom Kippur War, Falklands War (though it was overseas possession) and most importantly Kargil War in 1999 where two nuclear armed powers fought with each other conventionally. Nobody fired a nuke.

  • @toomi195
    @toomi195 2 года назад +1

    The title is wrong?

  • @dave8599
    @dave8599 2 года назад +3

    The government failed its people by failing to maintain a strong deterrence. After Crimea was taken, Ukraine should have gotten wise and armed up, but no. They allowed themselves to appear weak, and thus opened itself to attack.

    • @zlatkovuckovic6443
      @zlatkovuckovic6443 2 года назад

      Your statement is not accurate, during the 2014 Invasion by Russia UKRAINE was not prepared but 2022 it’s a bit different

  • @jasonsecretkhorsecret8515
    @jasonsecretkhorsecret8515 2 года назад

    You just earned a sub

  • @Avicorn
    @Avicorn 2 года назад +4

    Democracy with a big gun works far better than just democracy alone - proven by USA.
    Also some statemets are missleading, like ICBM argument.
    As a part of USSR Ukraine was equipped not only with ICBM's, but also with tactical missles for nuking Europe, which Russia and Uk are a part of. Thus all rockets and cruise misseles with extended range capability were a part of the deal.
    And this is one of the reasons Ukraine can't properly defend itself even in a conventional war - it doesn't have missles with range over 120km and thus can't reach russian airfields and ships in the Black Sea.

    • @mexico7662
      @mexico7662 2 года назад

      I mean Ukraine could, if they wouldn't have been so corrupt to sell out their whole military equipment. Corruption always prevent a nation of having a thriving economy and wealth. And without enough wealth there are no reliable modern military and weapons.

  • @arkWEWT
    @arkWEWT 2 года назад +2

    Shouldn't "what" in the title be "why"?

  • @compedsushi9030
    @compedsushi9030 2 года назад +9

    Leave poor Will alone :c, he's married to a demon and was forced to birth those two strange homunculus with that demon.

  • @zx6guy
    @zx6guy 2 года назад +1

    The explanation assumes there was no amount of nukes Ukraine could have maintained while that MAY be the case the real issue was the vastness of the resources left behind and poor/unimaginative negotiating on both Ukraine’s and Russia’s part.

    • @jackboot3946
      @jackboot3946 2 года назад +1

      Or just Russia's treachery in not honoring their agreements over Ukraine's immunity.

  • @Tomas-qw5wq
    @Tomas-qw5wq 2 года назад +3

    The conclusion is 1000000% true. i was living in Ukraine just right before it got attacked and I’ve never seen such a high level of rotten systemic corruption, prostitution and addictions. Even though I use to live in Nepal and I traveled to many countries including Afghanistan, I was shocked everyday. Even without the Russians, that country was going full speed towards a disaster. They don’t need weapons. They need to fix their state.

    • @timonrenault5893
      @timonrenault5893 2 года назад

      You have almost certainly never been there 🤣

    • @Tomas-qw5wq
      @Tomas-qw5wq 2 года назад

      @@timonrenault5893 Maybe…

  • @justasydefix6251
    @justasydefix6251 2 года назад +3

    In conclusion, Ukraine had one of the best military in the world. Us didnt like that so they tried to weaken ukraine. ukraine was forced against their weapons that they inherited from soviet unions. Politicians were mad at this so they started selling it in the black market through unconventional means like robbery. Ukraine was forced to sign a non-nuke pacts because they wanted peace and being neutral to avoid of facing NATO politicians and russian politicians every morning. Ukraine got so weakened to the point they dont have enough ammunitions and now russia is taking advantage of that. I would like to thank the world for everything they did, thank you for your support.

  • @gingerbreadnation246
    @gingerbreadnation246 2 года назад

    What was the game shown in the beginning?

  • @alext8828
    @alext8828 2 года назад

    Excellent.

  • @lusciouslucius
    @lusciouslucius 2 года назад +5

    they didnt have delivery capabilities

  • @gregorysamaniego36
    @gregorysamaniego36 2 года назад +2

    So that's why we're willingly sending them tons of weapons! I had no clue, I thought it was for the sole purpose of weakening russian defense capabilities.

  • @giordanofranchetti8143
    @giordanofranchetti8143 2 года назад +7

    I always wonder if you are a Pentagon asset, Russian prop or simply a stuge.
    What is ironic is how your docus are incentrated in the Russian military might and US military might.
    Still, a part of me hopes you are just a bystander like me thinking: Cooooooooool

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  2 года назад +6

      We just make videos on topics we find interesting (and that there is footage for!)

    • @steadmanuhlich6734
      @steadmanuhlich6734 2 года назад +1

      @@NotWhatYouThink You do an outstanding job! Keep up the good work. Carry on as you do. I am impressed by your balance (pointing out weaknesses of any side, and strengths). I also like the occasional hints at humor.

  • @spicydiarrhea5662
    @spicydiarrhea5662 2 года назад +3

    they could work on disabling PAL, use the warhead / modify it in other way than ICBM. It's not impossible

  • @ramstein92
    @ramstein92 2 года назад +1

    as a air force member I salute your service fallen 10k +soldiers

  • @blurglide
    @blurglide 2 года назад +1

    What is that ENORMOUS reentry vehicle at 6:36?

    • @blurglide
      @blurglide 2 года назад +1

      @@Gtmz53fxt56zxc No- I'm talking about just the RV...the big cone.

    • @AlexanderArk
      @AlexanderArk 2 месяца назад

      Probably satan-ii

  • @TamagoHead
    @TamagoHead 2 года назад +2

    Russia held onto the the launch codes because they were afraid of proximity to their border.
    Ukraine got the shaft in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances. Signed by Ukraine, Russia, UK and USA. Side deals with China & France.

  • @danielschult4107
    @danielschult4107 2 года назад +1

    I think that the argument that maintaineing the bombs would be to expencive dosen't count, because if money would be the biggest problem the numbef of warheads could be reduced or only the tactical wapons would be keept.

    • @jag0937eb
      @jag0937eb 2 года назад +1

      It's lies. It would have been expensive, but totally worth it. More importantly ukraine has the industry and engineering capacity to do so. They have been screwed big time.

  • @matthewplaysdaily6422
    @matthewplaysdaily6422 2 года назад

    What’s the game that was in the first part of the video

  • @static-on-toast-8058
    @static-on-toast-8058 2 года назад +1

    0:22
    James may with a lighter: "must be damp"
    anyone else recognise the location? or just me?

  • @noahsawesomevids422
    @noahsawesomevids422 2 года назад

    Awesome 😎

  • @tomkom9762
    @tomkom9762 2 года назад +1

    Wargame reference thump up

  • @iracingrookie3301
    @iracingrookie3301 2 года назад +1

    They didn’t have the launch codes or keys

  • @aschronobreakmnc3575
    @aschronobreakmnc3575 2 года назад

    NWYT never fails to add good humor on videos lmao 1:18

  • @_2JZ_GTE_
    @_2JZ_GTE_ 2 года назад

    1:51 о, Команданте! Здрасте

  • @sikora20yt
    @sikora20yt 2 года назад +1

    half of Europe would be annexed by them.

  • @AwsomkidthGames
    @AwsomkidthGames 2 года назад

    11:56 Ah yes, servants of the people. I see you're a man of culture. 😏

  • @theboreditamar2108
    @theboreditamar2108 2 года назад

    2:34 one of thr soliders is sliding on the ramp

  • @rajn2449
    @rajn2449 2 года назад +1

    What if is a big ? If only Ukraine did not denounced their Nuclear weapons , this war would never taken place.🤔

  • @njathifrancis
    @njathifrancis 2 года назад +1

    The Will Smith part killed me🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @JinKee
    @JinKee 2 года назад

    8:00 how come the “security assurances” in the trilateral process not been activated now?

  • @tylers2123
    @tylers2123 9 месяцев назад

    I don't think it's ever not been what I thought