Ali wins, 11th round ko, or by decision, tyson in his peak of fighting wasnt able to ko four men, and I'm sure you all know that those four men are, james tills, james smith, mitch green, and tony tucker, and these men, aint no ali, one tony tucker had a style that was like ali's the only thing is, HE AINT ALI!. Now tyrell biggs faught like ali, only thing is, when he felt tysons power, everything went out the window, and he got ko'd in 7th, now I think mike would still win since tyrell didnt have the stamina of ali's as well, but lets talk ali now, ali faught floyd patterson, a peekaboo master also trainned by cus d amato, and ali tko him in the 11th round and back then ali faught him again, back past his prime and tko him in 7th, then lets take a look a sonny liston, ali beat him and ali wasnt at his peak of fighting, ali would dominate and then in the 6th, or 5th ali went blind for one round... sonny, who I think is one of the hardest hitters of all time, harder hitter then mike and some can say even foreman. He couldn't ko ali and he was landing free punches, FREE, now if you want ot talk about ali in 74, a out of prime ali, ko foreman, the hardest puncher seen in a long time, really I mean people would say ali would get Killed, not ko'd, Killed, but ali would take the punishment for 8 brutal rounds and he said to foreman "is that all you got george?" thats by foremans words not me, and ali would ko him in 8th and that was the only time foreman was ko'd, ali was smart and tricked foreman and ko'd him using the rope a dope against him. Now mike can take a punch too, but the stamina is what plays in alis favor, you see, ali can go 15 rounds no problem, but mike, from what I see, 6-7 rounds he slows down a little, now it's not that bad since he can go to 12 rounds, but, when your getting tagged a lot by a fast puncher, who may not hit reall hard but hard enough, over time, those light jabs are going to sting, then alis going in, throwing hooks cross's all that, and tyson going to try and catch ali but i dont happen when ali is on his game, in 66-67, thats his peak from what we seen, and was almost if not, untouchable, it's insane how good he was, and he was more faster then mike, better footwork, more agile, can take more hits and more punishment from what we seen and you could agure he was more skilled full. But when you take a look at them both and compare the two and who they faught and all.. I mean we all know that ali's the greatest but i think we all should know, that ali would also beat mike, but hey, thats just me.
@@axia6372 I want to start off by thanking you for taking the time to write such a great message. It was well thought out and really shows you know your boxing history. Your comment is good enough evidence to show as to why Ali beats Tyson. I agree with the points you made. Most people nowadays don't know about Sonny Liston, but in punching power he does hit hard than Tyson. Ali without being able to see just using his boxing instincts was able to avoid Liston's hard punches, until his eyes cleared. Ali in his prime would be able to stay away from Tyson's power punches. Liston had 84 inch reach even compared to Tyson's 71 inch reach. I get it's hard for Tyson fans to admit it but styles make fights and Ali has the necessary style to beat him.
The thing you fail to consider is that some people - LIKE the ones who paid $1,000 or more for their seats, only to see a fight that lasted 93 seconds, felt cheated in a way. So it was in Mike's best interest, when he knew (and he knew) that his opponent was no match, to sometimes prolong a fight and build the excitement level. Not much buildup of excitement can take place in 93 seconds. I know that's not one of the four 'non-KO's' that you mentioned, but you also failed to mention that Tucker was undefeated. There is no shame in not knocking out a boxer with that many pro fights under his belt who has never lost a fight. Oh, and Tyson would have knocked Ali's mouthpiece, and his head, into the third row of seats.
@@snoop_diggity_dogg6059 What makes you think that Mike Tyson is one of the greatest of all time? He never fought anybody worth a damn. He knocked out a bunch of bums. The only notable fights he ever had were against Larry Holmes, who was old as dirt at that point, the two Evander Holyfield fights, both of which he lost, and the Lennox Lewis fight (albeit after Tyson's prime) in which Iron Mike got his ass beat. Not to mention that he was completely outclassed by a nobody like Buster Douglas. Go back and watch that fight. Mike didn't just get knocked out by a fluke. Buster just kicked his ass.😂😂😂😂
@@snoop_diggity_dogg6059 your not making much sense to me, am I missing something? yeah its not a shame in not koing tony tucker, I'm saying mike struggled against him because of the style he used, it was a style like ali's just not exactly, and you can agure that mike can knock alis mouthpiece, I still think ali tkos mike in the 11th round, and what I mean by Mike not being able to ko tony tucker is to show that even a peak mike tyson couldn't ko someone meaning that no one is unable to with stand mike's punches, and I know that tucker doesnt have the same level of durablity or chin as ali or endurance so thats why I also think that ali wouldn't be ko'd by mike because ali was able to with stand much harder hitters then mike, so thats why I think when you put all the things together, ali should win.
Prime Ali (before he was stripped of his title) was unbeatable. His footwork, body movement, speed and timing were impeccable. Tyson would have had a punchers chance of course but Ali would have him worked out and negate his style. Prime Ali beats every heavyweight in history in my opinion. 👍👍
I agree that Ali is the best heavyweight of all time. Even for todays modern heavyweights, they would be bewildered by his movement, footwork, and speed. It is really too bad that he couldn't box for those 3.5 years, the fans would have seen a lot of great fights. That version of Ali would have taken a lot less damage from Frazier and other fighters as well.
I'm a Tyson super fan!¡! But, Ali was the kind of fighter who will find a way. Pound for pound it goes to Mike, but Ali was too smart and would get in his head and wear Mike out!!!
Well, this is America, and you entitled to your opinion. No one is unbeatable, and true boxing fans know this to be a true statement. From John L. Sullivan, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, and Sonny Liston were beaten, and they considered LEGENDS of boxing. I am not saying that Ali was not a great fighter, but the GOAT is truly debatable. In the John L. Sullivan, and Jack Johnson era they fought 20 - 30 round fights, and NO fighter in the modern era can do that today. So you believe/think that Ali could defeat those fighters when even he himself said he felt like he was dying in "The Triller from Manila" fight against Joe Frasier, and that was a 15 round fight. So honestly, how can he be considered the GOAT? People called Ali the greatest, because HE called himself the greatest, and it just caught on with the press.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk Like you say it's just an opinion. Regarding the boxers you mention, Sullivan was a bare-knuckle fighter and had very little movement. He would have been easily out boxed by prime Ali. Johnson lost 11 times & drew 9 against some fairly average opponents including Jess Willard who was hammered by Dempsey in 1 round. Dempsey himself was completely outboxed & beaten by Gene Tunney who was nowhere near as skilled as Ali. Louis & Marciano were too small to compete in Ali's era. As for Liston, Ali beat him twice. In regards to 20-30 round fights they happened very rarely and were fought at a very much slower pace than the fights from later years. The Thriller in Manilla fight took place years after his return from his 3+ years out of the ring, not the period I'm talking about. Ali could easily fight for 15 rounds at a high tempo before his ban as he did when punishing Ernie Terrell in the 'What's My Name' fight. Obviously in boxing no-one is unbeatable, one punch can change everything, but Ali was the closest I've seen as a heavyweight.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk ok Myke Tyson was almost 25 when he fought Ruddock and Ali was almost 25 when he fought Cleveland Williams and 25 when he fought Earnie Terrell. Ali would beat Tyson, when both were the same age of 25, which is considered to be their primes.
@@MMAJudge. How do you believe/think Ali would handle a full crushing Tyson right hand, left hook, right rib body shot, and upper cut? Or, do you believe Tyson would not land anything? People seem to have forgotten how fast/quick Tyson was, which is another reason he dominated in his era. If Frasier could stun Ali then Tyson could finish him, and Tyson was one the all time great finishers. Don't get wrong Ali was a great fighter, but to call him the GOAT would be to cancel out 100 years worth of heavyweights
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk Ali was able to beat all the greatest fighters of his time He lost to Frazier, yes...but he came back and beat him twice He fought and beat Liston, who was a scary puncher. He beat George Foreman who could hit harder than Tyson and better stamina than Tyson. Tyson on the other hand, never beat a fighter who he lost to by fighting them again Ali v Tyson would play out like this in my opinion: Tyson would come out fast & strong in his usual style Ali would be defensive for the first 6-8 rounds. Tyson would eventually tire out after round 6 & Tyson would be defeated mentally after 8-9 rounds Ali would go more on the attack after Tyson begins to tire out Ali would either win on points if the fight went 12 rounds. 90% chance If we talking a 14 round bout... then Ali between rounds 11 to 14 Tyson could likely be KOd by Ali 95% chance of Ali winning from rounds 11 - 14 by a KO Tyson has small chance of beating Ali but only before round 7 ( about 35 % chance )
Without getting into too much of a technical analysis, Ali fought the two baddest men in boxing. They were supposed to be stronger and meaner than the dancing "light punching" heavyweight. Ali was supposed to get knocked out, killed. Anybody that thinks Tyson would beat him is underestimating the guy who isnt called "The Greatest" for nothing.
The easiest way to break this fight down, is… Tyson needs to win inside 4-5 rounds to win this fight. Considering Ali was never stopped, even by some of the heaviest hitters in heavyweight history, the likelihood of Tyson stopping him early, is 0. Ali would be smart enough to evade Tyson whilst he was at his most dangerous. Once in the later rounds, Ali would drag Tyson deep. I see Ali winning by a late stoppage, or points victory. Tyson’s only chance is a KO, and I just can’t see. Not saying it would be an easy fight for Ali either, he’d need to employ every trick in the book to keep Tyson at bay, but ultimately I think he’d do it.
I agree too. If the likes of Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker (no disrespect) can go past 4-5 rounds against prime Tyson, prime Ali certainly can. And I also agree with the assessment of mental fortitude too. Ali for me ✌️
When you break down ll their abilities, x factors, and the mental aspect, it's very obvious Ali should be favored to win. He would not only get in Tyson's head, he'd break him down and drain him over the course of the fight with his footwork, spamming jabs to shut Tyson's eye, pull counters, tying Tyson up, and talking trash the whole time. Alii wins by TKO in 9-10 rounds if he presses the issue or wins a clear decision. Don't get me wrong, Tyson would make it very competitive and would probably win the first few rounds, but this is just a bad matchup for him psychologically even though his style should beat Ali on paper.
@@MMAJudge. Tyson was giving respect to his idol. Tyson way better and more powerful than Joe Frazier. Rope a dope would not work on Tyson. Nobody could just sit and get hit against Tyson. Foreman was just stupid and the ropes were let out so Ali could just sit and lay on ropes. I love all these fighters, but Tyson in his prime was too powerful/ Those body punches would be too much
@@stevekarb6190 I agree Tyson was better than Frazier, but unlike Frazier, Tyson didn't have the same type of conditioning for 15 round type of fights. Tyson was a great body puncher but Ali took body punches extremely well.
@@MMAJudge. No he wasn't. Ali don't fake what he says. He's always been like that as a Man and a Muslim. Go back to all his talk show interviews. he never says what he doesn't mean.
The outcome is obvious , just look ay their resumes , Ali's best Wins are 10 times more impressive than tyson's , Ali delt with floyd patterson who has a similar fighting style to tyson , and ali did fight people who hit harder , faster , more technical than tyson , Ali by TKO
Yeah Ali has the better resume. He fought all styles and even fought Tyson's peek a boo style of fighting. Ali said that Floyd Patterson was the most technical fighter he ever fought. It's not anything new to him. However Tyson never fought someone like Ali. Ali by TKO, I would be surprised if it went to a decision.
Tyson was the complete fighter. Ali lays back and jabs and a few combos, but Tyson came at you, cut off the ring and did body damage that no fighter has ever done to Ali.
@@chriso8193 If Tyson was a complete fighter, how come he didn't have a single KO win after the 7th round? That showed he lacks conditioning. Also why did he lose to Buster Douglas?
Ali would have finished Tyson before the fight , he would have gotten into his head and psychologically destroyed him ! Then he would have demoralised him in the ring.
This whole comment section is just a twitter war between 2 massive fanbases over a concept video of a fight that will never happen anyway 💀 I love it. Keep those arguments coming 🍿👏😁
Mike would have won Even though Ali was a master of his craft but he did get hit often.Mike also had those fast stunning punches rather than huge clubbing blows that you could prepare for!
Since they both lost about 3 years of great fights. I would say Tyson from the age of 17-21 would have given Ali all kinds of problems. But from the age of 22-34 it would have been all Ali.
What are you basing it on that Marciano would beat Ali? Marciano weighed 185 pounds. That is a weight that light heavy weights are and they cut down to 175.
Get serious! You're whistling in the dark fella! Ali would devastate Marciano! That's not a reflection on Marciano, (he was a great one)but wake up and smell the coffee dude!
When Foreman, fought Ali he was not at his best, Ali struggled/laboured heavily against Ken norton, Joe frasier, but George Foreman knocked them out like they were nothing . It is obvious that a George Forman at his best would have whooped/knocked Ali out easily, The heat got to foreman during Ali fight and foreman was not at his best because of this
But with that logic Ali also fought Foreman in the same heat... The reason Foreman beat Norton and Frazier easily is because styles makes fights. Those styles gave Ali problems. Ali in his prime would have beaten Foreman by moving more and not being on the ropes. It would have been a better fight for Ali. But Foreman was a great fighter, definitely a top 3 or 5 heavyweight of all time.
I think you're looking at Mike Tyson and thinking great finisher guy who can really hit, had a real good chin you had to beat him to knock him out. And that is what Ali would have done, he would have frustrated him first of all and he would have stayed on the outside and beat him with the jab and when Mike would come in with that hook Ali would probably beat him with his left hook because his left hook was faster at times in the jab. Tyson would go for broke, and Ali would stifle it by getting inside on him talking to him walking him backwards and setting up how he wants to fight him from the outside. Some people kind of forget that Muhammad Ali was an excellent inside fighter. They sometimes look at him and think he was a jab guy but look at Ali fight on the inside with Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, George Foreman and you see how quick he is on the inside and how he beat you to the punch on the inside as well. That would be the only way Tyson could get off offensively, but it could be nullified with the fact that Ali was faster inside. You're talking about a 6 foot 3 inch guy vs a five feet 11 inch guy what's great athleticism and was not going to tire, that Tyson would have to follow all night and it's just not a very good fight esthetically for Mike Tyson. ALI IN A CAKE WALK DECISION, OR A STOPPAGE ON CUTS
Is Mohammed Ali could get up to around 7 without being knocked out? Then he would win but I wouldn't like to put any money on it. Either way, because they're both very good fighters. Even when Mohammed Ali is the better one with a stamina and can go to distance, it's hard to say.
Ali is too difficult to knock out. He would make it to the later rounds against Tyson. Tyson couldn't knock out all the fighters he fought and they were not on Ali's level.
Ali never got knocked out, never. And he ate heavy punches from Frazier, Norton, etc. Tyson might hit him hard, but no way he knocks him out. Plus Ali could hit hard himself and Tyson actually did got knocked out a few times. Also Tyson never had a plan B as seen in fights vs Lewis or Holyfield. If his plan to knock out Ali in a rush didnt work he's fcked.
@@MMAJudge. Also, people tend to say that Tyson wasnt the same anymore after the death of his trainer and his time in prison. But Ali had huge trouble outside the ring as well, probably even more trouble than Tyson, but that never effected his performace _inside_ the ring, and that is what makes a true champion. To be the best of the best, the GOAT, you have to win the big fights, no matter what (Rumble in the jungle, Thriller in Manilla). Tyson lost them all (Holyfield, Lewis). Sure Tyson was scary, sure he was a champ, sure he was great at knockouts, but Ali was on another level. Besides, apart from an overweight aged Larry Holmes, against which big name Tyson actually won?
Ali would wins and don't think there is much of a debate. Tyson would only have a punchers chance and that would be a punchers chance up against one the best chins in the history of heavyweight boxing too go along with some of the best reflexes in the history of the heavyweight division. Would be a tall order to ask Tyson to pull off a win against a guy who's a match up nightmare for him. A more interesting question would be what if Ali and Holmes meet at their peaks. I would pick Ali, but I think a prime Larry Holmes would do better against a prime Ali then a prime Mike Tyson would.
@@MMAJudge. Yeah youre probably right. 7 is more likely. Ali would have continued to wear Tyson down till he turned it on. It would have been interesting though. Anything could happen with Mike in 3
Ali would stop Tyson late. The real fight would be Tyson vs. Frazier, and I think he’d stop Tyson late too. George Foreman would stop Tyson early, the same way he did Frazier
@@shehzadhussain6964 The younger version of Ali would not have been on the ropes. He would have been on the move with Foreman chasing him and throwing wild punches and missing. Young Ali would win by TKO on a gassed out Foreman
@@MMAJudge. The subject matter is Ali vs Tyson in their prime, and in their prime would have been both fighters are 23 years old, and that is because of Ali being stripped of his title and suspended for 4 years I believe, and Tyson going to prison for 3 years at age 25. We all missed both of their real prime years.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk yeah so if we go by who would win both at the same ages 22 and up Ali wins. Tyson peaked early at 20 when he won the titl vs a 20 year old Ali now that would be very interesting fight. But Ali is at a disadvantage for sure
@@PhilAltieri Ali was 36 and a really old 36 because of all the damage he had taken in fights. He shouldn't have been fighting even. He was way past his prime.
journeyman Buster Douglas KNOCKED TYSON OUT IN HIS PRIME 😂😂🤣🤣 fk'd up old Holyfield KNOCKED TYSON OUT IN HIS PRIME 🤣🤣😂😂 Tyson isn't a top 10 heavyweight Tyson wasn't even the best of his generation. Holyfield & Lewis were.
@@MMAJudge. No, the -88 version of Mike smokes him, people forget that Mike was very skilled when he had the the passion, he was very hard to hit. You cant compare the lightweight Floyd Patterson with Iron Mike. Also Ali was a hypejob, no way he beat Sonny liston like that, he laid down because people did not like him and the belt had to go to a more likeable champ.
@@cone78omdiaco21 Stupid says, Iron Mike hade a really bad night and did not take care of himself at that time, i am sure he would have KO Douglas in a rematch. But Douglas did good, but you can tell he did not meet with the real Mike who was like a zombie in that fight.
@@MMAJudge. Ali vs. Frasier 1, 2, and 3. If Frasier could beat Ali so could a in his prime, in shape Tyson. Tyson punched harder, and was quicker than Frasier. He had the speed of a middleweight, and the power of a heavyweight.
Tyson wasn't even the Best of his OWN era. He also avoided top contenders so we don't know how good or bad he was. We have only the bums and fringe contenders to judge him by. He was Kayoed by a 42-1 underdog. KNOCKED OUT!
@@cone78omdiaco21 Tyson's prime was very short ( late 80s). In the 90s his career was pretty bad. He didn't have impressive wins after he came back to boxing.
@@MMAJudge. I LOVE reading the excuses they make for a Man who lost ALL his big fights. had 6 losses. 5 by KNOCKOUT and quit in another. Took the 10 count 3 times. TWICE begged his corner to STOP a fight and has the distinction of being the MOST KNOCKED OUT and MOST OVERRATED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF ALL TIMES.
@@cone78omdiaco21 Ali on the other hand had some of his toughest opponents and signature wins when he came back from being banned from boxing. Even though he lost some of his abilities.
When do you consider Ali in his prime? Because at thee age 20 - 28 he was NOT in his prime, but Tyson at age 20 -25 was in his prime, and that Tyson was almost unbeatable except for B. Douglass, and that was an untrained/unprepared Tyson.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk Ali from the Liston fight until the Zora Foley fight I would consider when he was at his best in the ring. Ali wasn't allowed to reach his physical peak( his prime) since he wasn't allowed to box. We didn't get to see his real prime years in the ring.
yea yea I've heard that excuse a million times, LOL.. Tyson lost cos he's been champion for long, Tyson lost cos Cus just died, Tyson lost cos Rooney this n that, Tyson lost cos blah blah blah!🤣🤣🤣🤣. WHY can't u fanboys just face and accept the fact that he lost cos he's overrated and was outclassed and not as invincible as u fanboys thought him to be!! Hahaha excuses excuses!😂😂😂😂
That's funny. Ali fought harder punchers who landed cleanly on him and he didn't go down. Ali can take Tyson's punch. The only way he would get knocked out is if Tyson landed several punches in a row. But Ali was good at avoiding being hit consecutively.
@@MMAJudge. I don't think so Ali's style is backpedaling. So you are right but Mike Tyson will chase Ali down. Now in case you're haven't noticed Ali couldn't run for the entire fight against any of his opponents. Tyson pursued all of his opponents with reckless abandon. Let me say it again Ali can't take any of Mike Tyson's punches.
@@MartyChavis Earnie Shavers hits harder than Tyson... Ali paced himself to be able to go the distance if needed so he could avoid Tyson's power shots. Tyson doesn't knock people out in later rounds.
@@MMAJudge. You mean Ali backpedals. Ali could never go toe to toe with Mike Tyson in a slug out brawl. Let me say it again Ali can't take any of Mike Tyson's punches. Now who broke Ali's jaw?
@@MartyChavis ken Norton did but Ali wasn't knocked out, he finished the fight. Tyson is short heavyweight, he will keep chasing Ali and not be able to cut off the ring. Tyson's stamina will run out, he won't be hitting as hard in the later rounds.
@michaelchesney8680 3 of his losses were when he was so past his prime, Ali should have been retired. The Spinks, Holmes and Berbick fights were when Ali was old and had wear and tear.
@@michaelchesney8680 Ken Norton wasn’t mediocre, sphinx got lucky coz Ali didn’t take it seriously and beat him in a rematch. Berbik and Holmes were in their prime and Ali (not knowing at the time) had early signs of Parkinson’s and was way too old to fight. Except for his fight with Holmes when his trainer Dundee stopped the fight on Ali’s behalf, Ali never went down and stayed down like Tyson did.
Ali wins, 11th round ko, or by decision, tyson in his peak of fighting wasnt able to ko four men, and I'm sure you all know that those four men are, james tills, james smith, mitch green, and tony tucker, and these men, aint no ali, one tony tucker had a style that was like ali's the only thing is, HE AINT ALI!. Now tyrell biggs faught like ali, only thing is, when he felt tysons power, everything went out the window, and he got ko'd in 7th, now I think mike would still win since tyrell didnt have the stamina of ali's as well, but lets talk ali now, ali faught floyd patterson, a peekaboo master also trainned by cus d amato, and ali tko him in the 11th round and back then ali faught him again, back past his prime and tko him in 7th, then lets take a look a sonny liston, ali beat him and ali wasnt at his peak of fighting, ali would dominate and then in the 6th, or 5th ali went blind for one round... sonny, who I think is one of the hardest hitters of all time, harder hitter then mike and some can say even foreman. He couldn't ko ali and he was landing free punches, FREE, now if you want ot talk about ali in 74, a out of prime ali, ko foreman, the hardest puncher seen in a long time, really I mean people would say ali would get Killed, not ko'd, Killed, but ali would take the punishment for 8 brutal rounds and he said to foreman "is that all you got george?" thats by foremans words not me, and ali would ko him in 8th and that was the only time foreman was ko'd, ali was smart and tricked foreman and ko'd him using the rope a dope against him. Now mike can take a punch too, but the stamina is what plays in alis favor, you see, ali can go 15 rounds no problem, but mike, from what I see, 6-7 rounds he slows down a little, now it's not that bad since he can go to 12 rounds, but, when your getting tagged a lot by a fast puncher, who may not hit reall hard but hard enough, over time, those light jabs are going to sting, then alis going in, throwing hooks cross's all that, and tyson going to try and catch ali but i dont happen when ali is on his game, in 66-67, thats his peak from what we seen, and was almost if not, untouchable, it's insane how good he was, and he was more faster then mike, better footwork, more agile, can take more hits and more punishment from what we seen and you could agure he was more skilled full. But when you take a look at them both and compare the two and who they faught and all.. I mean we all know that ali's the greatest but i think we all should know, that ali would also beat mike, but hey, thats just me.
@@axia6372 I want to start off by thanking you for taking the time to write such a great message. It was well thought out and really shows you know your boxing history. Your comment is good enough evidence to show as to why Ali beats Tyson. I agree with the points you made. Most people nowadays don't know about Sonny Liston, but in punching power he does hit hard than Tyson. Ali without being able to see just using his boxing instincts was able to avoid Liston's hard punches, until his eyes cleared. Ali in his prime would be able to stay away from Tyson's power punches. Liston had 84 inch reach even compared to Tyson's 71 inch reach. I get it's hard for Tyson fans to admit it but styles make fights and Ali has the necessary style to beat him.
@@MMAJudge. Thank you, I'm glad you respond and that someone gets my view point.
The thing you fail to consider is that some people - LIKE the ones who paid $1,000 or more for their seats, only to see a fight that lasted 93 seconds, felt cheated in a way. So it was in Mike's best interest, when he knew (and he knew) that his opponent was no match, to sometimes prolong a fight and build the excitement level. Not much buildup of excitement can take place in 93 seconds. I know that's not one of the four 'non-KO's' that you mentioned, but you also failed to mention that Tucker was undefeated. There is no shame in not knocking out a boxer with that many pro fights under his belt who has never lost a fight. Oh, and Tyson would have knocked Ali's mouthpiece, and his head, into the third row of seats.
@@snoop_diggity_dogg6059 What makes you think that Mike Tyson is one of the greatest of all time? He never fought anybody worth a damn. He knocked out a bunch of bums. The only notable fights he ever had were against Larry Holmes, who was old as dirt at that point, the two Evander Holyfield fights, both of which he lost, and the Lennox Lewis fight (albeit after Tyson's prime) in which Iron Mike got his ass beat. Not to mention that he was completely outclassed by a nobody like Buster Douglas. Go back and watch that fight. Mike didn't just get knocked out by a fluke. Buster just kicked his ass.😂😂😂😂
@@snoop_diggity_dogg6059 your not making much sense to me, am I missing something? yeah its not a shame in not koing tony tucker, I'm saying mike struggled against him because of the style he used, it was a style like ali's just not exactly, and you can agure that mike can knock alis mouthpiece, I still think ali tkos mike in the 11th round, and what I mean by Mike not being able to ko tony tucker is to show that even a peak mike tyson couldn't ko someone meaning that no one is unable to with stand mike's punches, and I know that tucker doesnt have the same level of durablity or chin as ali or endurance so thats why I also think that ali wouldn't be ko'd by mike because ali was able to with stand much harder hitters then mike, so thats why I think when you put all the things together, ali should win.
Prime Ali (before he was stripped of his title) was unbeatable. His footwork, body movement, speed and timing were impeccable.
Tyson would have had a punchers chance of course but Ali would have him worked out and negate his style.
Prime Ali beats every heavyweight in history in my opinion. 👍👍
I agree that Ali is the best heavyweight of all time. Even for todays modern heavyweights, they would be bewildered by his movement, footwork, and speed. It is really too bad that he couldn't box for those 3.5 years, the fans would have seen a lot of great fights. That version of Ali would have taken a lot less damage from Frazier and other fighters as well.
I'm a Tyson super fan!¡! But, Ali was the kind of fighter who will find a way. Pound for pound it goes to Mike, but Ali was too smart and would get in his head and wear Mike out!!!
@@theprototype005 I agree
Well, this is America, and you entitled to your opinion. No one is unbeatable, and true boxing fans know this to be a true statement. From John L. Sullivan, Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Joe Louis, and Sonny Liston were beaten, and they considered LEGENDS of boxing. I am not saying that Ali was not a great fighter, but the GOAT is truly debatable. In the John L. Sullivan, and Jack Johnson era they fought 20 - 30 round fights, and NO fighter in the modern era can do that today. So you believe/think that Ali could defeat those fighters when even he himself said he felt like he was dying in "The Triller from Manila" fight against Joe Frasier, and that was a 15 round fight. So honestly, how can he be considered the GOAT? People called Ali the greatest, because HE called himself the greatest, and it just caught on with the press.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk
Like you say it's just an opinion.
Regarding the boxers you mention, Sullivan was a bare-knuckle fighter and had very little movement. He would have been easily out boxed by prime Ali. Johnson lost 11 times & drew 9 against some fairly average opponents including Jess Willard who was hammered by Dempsey in 1 round. Dempsey himself was completely outboxed & beaten by Gene Tunney who was nowhere near as skilled as Ali. Louis & Marciano were too small to compete in Ali's era. As for Liston, Ali beat him twice.
In regards to 20-30 round fights they happened very rarely and were fought at a very much slower pace than the fights from later years.
The Thriller in Manilla fight took place years after his return from his 3+ years out of the ring, not the period I'm talking about.
Ali could easily fight for 15 rounds at a high tempo before his ban as he did when punishing Ernie Terrell in the 'What's My Name' fight.
Obviously in boxing no-one is unbeatable, one punch can change everything, but Ali was the closest I've seen as a heavyweight.
Ali too fast and smart for Mike
@@billthestinker Ali has many ways to avoid Tyson's best punches. Tyson in his prime, didnt knock out Tony Tucker even.
Ali would have won. No Problem. Ali had better skills and Ring IQ.
@@jimbridges3499 correct
❤Your assessment is accurate and well thought out. It is a PLEASURE to such expertise and knowledge.
Thank you
Spot on analysis. Couldn't have said it better myself. Excellent assessment.
@@michaelhubbard4023 Thank you, I appreciate your comment.
Ali prime can win any heavyweight of any era…
I agree, any heavy weight would have too much trouble with his style
His prime would have been at the age of 25
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk ok Myke Tyson was almost 25 when he fought Ruddock and Ali was almost 25 when he fought Cleveland Williams and 25 when he fought Earnie Terrell. Ali would beat Tyson, when both were the same age of 25, which is considered to be their primes.
@@MMAJudge. How do you believe/think Ali would handle a full crushing Tyson right hand, left hook, right rib body shot, and upper cut? Or, do you believe Tyson would not land anything? People seem to have forgotten how fast/quick Tyson was, which is another reason he dominated in his era. If Frasier could stun Ali then Tyson could finish him, and Tyson was one the all time great finishers. Don't get wrong Ali was a great fighter, but to call him the GOAT would be to cancel out 100 years worth of heavyweights
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk
Ali was able to beat all the greatest fighters of his time
He lost to Frazier, yes...but he came back and beat him twice
He fought and beat Liston, who was a scary puncher. He beat George Foreman who could hit harder than Tyson and better stamina than Tyson.
Tyson on the other hand, never beat a fighter who he lost to by fighting them again
Ali v Tyson would play out like this in my opinion:
Tyson would come out fast & strong in his usual style
Ali would be defensive for the first 6-8 rounds.
Tyson would eventually tire out after round 6 &
Tyson would be defeated mentally after 8-9 rounds
Ali would go more on the attack after Tyson begins to tire out
Ali would either win on points if the fight went 12 rounds.
90% chance
If we talking a 14 round bout...
then Ali between rounds 11 to 14 Tyson could likely be KOd by Ali
95% chance of Ali winning from rounds 11 - 14 by a KO
Tyson has small chance of beating Ali but only before round 7 ( about 35 % chance )
Without getting into too much of a technical analysis, Ali fought the two baddest men in boxing. They were supposed to be stronger and meaner than the dancing "light punching" heavyweight. Ali was supposed to get knocked out, killed.
Anybody that thinks Tyson would beat him is underestimating the guy who isnt called "The Greatest" for nothing.
@@greglemon230 Tyson is good, but Ali is just a better fighter. His style is a nightmare match up for Tyson.
You guys are forgetting that the discussion is about Ali and Tyson in their prime. Based on that they would have been Tyson at 23 and Ali at 25.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk Tyson at 23 and Ali at 23, Ali still wins. He beat Liston when he was 22.
The easiest way to break this fight down, is… Tyson needs to win inside 4-5 rounds to win this fight. Considering Ali was never stopped, even by some of the heaviest hitters in heavyweight history, the likelihood of Tyson stopping him early, is 0. Ali would be smart enough to evade Tyson whilst he was at his most dangerous. Once in the later rounds, Ali would drag Tyson deep. I see Ali winning by a late stoppage, or points victory. Tyson’s only chance is a KO, and I just can’t see. Not saying it would be an easy fight for Ali either, he’d need to employ every trick in the book to keep Tyson at bay, but ultimately I think he’d do it.
@@captainahab2485 I agree with your assessment of how the fight would play out.
I agree too. If the likes of Bonecrusher Smith and Tony Tucker (no disrespect) can go past 4-5 rounds against prime Tyson, prime Ali certainly can. And I also agree with the assessment of mental fortitude too. Ali for me ✌️
Ali Said "I am the Greatest!" and by God I think he was !
@@sergiozammel8261 Number 1 heavyweight champion
Ali in his prime could be tthe best in any era... IMHO Usyk is the inheritor since!
Ali in eight against Tyson
I would expect Ali to get a tko stoppage after the eighth round at some point.
Ali would have messed tyson mind up and beat him before the first punch was thrown
Maybe. Tyson prime years were amazing.
@@karb58benefits Tyson doesn't hold any wins over a prime all time boxer.
When you break down ll their abilities, x factors, and the mental aspect, it's very obvious Ali should be favored to win. He would not only get in Tyson's head, he'd break him down and drain him over the course of the fight with his footwork, spamming jabs to shut Tyson's eye, pull counters, tying Tyson up, and talking trash the whole time. Alii wins by TKO in 9-10 rounds if he presses the issue or wins a clear decision. Don't get me wrong, Tyson would make it very competitive and would probably win the first few rounds, but this is just a bad matchup for him psychologically even though his style should beat Ali on paper.
Excellent points and analysis, I agree.
I believe Ali will win. By tko in the late rounds. There is 2 different Ali's the 1960s super fast ali or the heavier Ali. With a super chin.
@@EXPOSEDBYGABRIELPEREZ There were two versions of Ali. Before he was banned from boxing and after he came back. Both versions would beat Tyson.
Huge Ali fan, Tyson too smart and too much powerful. Even Ali said this
@@stevekarb6190 Ali said it to be nice, he was being humble. Tyson himself said he can't compare to Ali...
@@MMAJudge. Tyson was giving respect to his idol. Tyson way better and more powerful than Joe Frazier. Rope a dope would not work on Tyson. Nobody could just sit and get hit against Tyson. Foreman was just stupid and the ropes were let out so Ali could just sit and lay on ropes. I love all these fighters, but Tyson in his prime was too powerful/ Those body punches would be too much
@@stevekarb6190 I agree Tyson was better than Frazier, but unlike Frazier, Tyson didn't have the same type of conditioning for 15 round type of fights. Tyson was a great body puncher but Ali took body punches extremely well.
@@MMAJudge. No he wasn't. Ali don't fake what he says. He's always been like that as a Man and a Muslim. Go back to all his talk show interviews. he never says what he doesn't mean.
Ali was just being humble and encouraging to Mike. In other words, he lied to him
This isn't even a real question. Ali.
@@johnhatchel9681 Agreed
67' Ali vs. 87' Tyson would be a dream match
@@14spokenwords I agree
Ali defeated both Liston and Foreman, they were both invinsible KO-monsters.Ali should do the same with Tyson no doubt about it 🥊.
@@tordakerblom211 u are correct
what about frazier
@@michaelchesney8680 Frazier fought a past his prime Ali, coming off a lay off and had ring rust. That's why Frazier beat him the first time.
Tyson fans are so clueless it’s irritating
Of course Ali wins
@@brianforde7967 true
Ali 👑
The outcome is obvious , just look ay their resumes , Ali's best Wins are 10 times more impressive than tyson's , Ali delt with floyd patterson who has a similar fighting style to tyson , and ali did fight people who hit harder , faster , more technical than tyson , Ali by TKO
Yeah Ali has the better resume. He fought all styles and even fought Tyson's peek a boo style of fighting. Ali said that Floyd Patterson was the most technical fighter he ever fought. It's not anything new to him. However Tyson never fought someone like Ali. Ali by TKO, I would be surprised if it went to a decision.
Tyson was the complete fighter. Ali lays back and jabs and a few combos, but Tyson came at you, cut off the ring and did body damage that no fighter has ever done to Ali.
@@chriso8193 If Tyson was a complete fighter, how come he didn't have a single KO win after the 7th round? That showed he lacks conditioning. Also why did he lose to Buster Douglas?
@@MMAJudge. I Agree Tyson would have knocked him out
@@MMAJudge. The fact you're asking those questions shows the gaps in your knowledge.
@@MMAJudge. The fact you're asking those questions shows the gaps in your knowledge.
@@jaybee2402 They are rhetorical questions...
Ali would have finished Tyson before the fight , he would have gotten into his head and psychologically destroyed him ! Then he would have demoralised him in the ring.
@@stewartwalker9882 that is how the fight would play out
This whole comment section is just a twitter war between 2 massive fanbases over a concept video of a fight that will never happen anyway 💀
I love it. Keep those arguments coming 🍿👏😁
@@Keiththeking2 That is true
Mike would have won Even though Ali was a master of his craft but he did get hit often.Mike also had those fast stunning punches rather than huge clubbing blows that you could prepare for!
@@shaundavenport621 Ali started to absorb punches when he returned at age 29 after being banned from boxing. Before that he was really hard to hit.
Since they both lost about 3 years of great fights. I would say Tyson from the age of 17-21 would have given Ali all kinds of problems. But from the age of 22-34 it would have been all Ali.
@@ricricciardi7086 I agree
Ali would beat Tyson, and Marciano would beat Ali>
What are you basing it on that Marciano would beat Ali? Marciano weighed 185 pounds. That is a weight that light heavy weights are and they cut down to 175.
Get serious! You're whistling in the dark fella! Ali would devastate Marciano! That's not a reflection on Marciano, (he was a great one)but wake up and smell the coffee dude!
When Foreman, fought Ali he was not at his best, Ali struggled/laboured heavily against Ken norton, Joe frasier, but George Foreman knocked them out like they were nothing . It is obvious that a George Forman at his best would have whooped/knocked Ali out easily, The heat got to foreman during Ali fight and foreman was not at his best because of this
But with that logic Ali also fought Foreman in the same heat... The reason Foreman beat Norton and Frazier easily is because styles makes fights. Those styles gave Ali problems. Ali in his prime would have beaten Foreman by moving more and not being on the ropes. It would have been a better fight for Ali. But Foreman was a great fighter, definitely a top 3 or 5 heavyweight of all time.
Boxing doesn't work like you think ,and ali wasn't primed against foreman either
@@Bumderduck true
Yeah, George Foreman, at his best, would have knocked out Ali, the same way that Foreman knocked out Jimmy Young, right? 🤨
@@dealingthereal6922 You are correct, styles make fights. Ali had style to beat Foreman
Tyson...no doubt about it !
@@jeromecissokho1122 why
@@MMAJudge. cos he was better
I think you're looking at Mike Tyson and thinking great finisher guy who can really hit, had a real good chin you had to beat him to knock him out. And that is what Ali would have done, he would have frustrated him first of all and he would have stayed on the outside and beat him with the jab and when Mike would come in with that hook Ali would probably beat him with his left hook because his left hook was faster at times in the jab.
Tyson would go for broke, and Ali would stifle it by getting inside on him talking to him walking him backwards and setting up how he wants to fight him from the outside. Some people kind of forget that Muhammad Ali was an excellent inside fighter.
They sometimes look at him and think he was a jab guy but look at Ali fight on the inside with Sonny Liston, Joe Frazier, George Foreman and you see how quick he is on the inside and how he beat you to the punch on the inside as well. That would be the only way Tyson could get off offensively, but it could be nullified with the fact that Ali was faster inside.
You're talking about a 6 foot 3 inch guy vs a five feet 11 inch guy what's great athleticism and was not going to tire, that Tyson would have to follow all night and it's just not a very good fight esthetically for Mike Tyson. ALI IN A CAKE WALK DECISION, OR A STOPPAGE ON CUTS
@@TheNYHITTINGACADEMY Great comment, you really broke down well how the fight would go between them. You really know these 2 fighters well.
Tyson would be dangerous in the early rounds but I believe that Ali would out-point Tyson and win a close decision.
@@ThePacotito1 potentially yeah
Is Mohammed Ali could get up to around 7 without being knocked out? Then he would win but I wouldn't like to put any money on it. Either way, because they're both very good fighters. Even when Mohammed Ali is the better one with a stamina and can go to distance, it's hard to say.
Ali is too difficult to knock out. He would make it to the later rounds against Tyson. Tyson couldn't knock out all the fighters he fought and they were not on Ali's level.
Ali never got knocked out, never. And he ate heavy punches from Frazier, Norton, etc. Tyson might hit him hard, but no way he knocks him out. Plus Ali could hit hard himself and Tyson actually did got knocked out a few times. Also Tyson never had a plan B as seen in fights vs Lewis or Holyfield. If his plan to knock out Ali in a rush didnt work he's fcked.
@@Teng711 U make some good points
@@MMAJudge. Also, people tend to say that Tyson wasnt the same anymore after the death of his trainer and his time in prison. But Ali had huge trouble outside the ring as well, probably even more trouble than Tyson, but that never effected his performace _inside_ the ring, and that is what makes a true champion.
To be the best of the best, the GOAT, you have to win the big fights, no matter what (Rumble in the jungle, Thriller in Manilla). Tyson lost them all (Holyfield, Lewis).
Sure Tyson was scary, sure he was a champ, sure he was great at knockouts, but Ali was on another level.
Besides, apart from an overweight aged Larry Holmes, against which big name Tyson actually won?
@@Teng711 Excellent points, Ali won his major fights or at least won the rematches. Tyson doesn't have that kind of resume.
Mike Tyson would win.
@@jameskelly5672 why?
Ali would wins and don't think there is much of a debate. Tyson would only have a punchers chance and that would be a punchers chance up against one the best chins in the history of heavyweight boxing too go along with some of the best reflexes in the history of the heavyweight division. Would be a tall order to ask Tyson to pull off a win against a guy who's a match up nightmare for him. A more interesting question would be what if Ali and Holmes meet at their peaks. I would pick Ali, but I think a prime Larry Holmes would do better against a prime Ali then a prime Mike Tyson would.
@@Derby_City_Dasher I agree with your assessment. Also Tyson never got a KO after the 7th round so to get a KO win he would have until around then.
Muhammad Ali after 4 rounds if it gets that far.
@@Shawn3002 after the 7th round ali doesn't have to worry about Tyson's power. He never got a KO after the 7th round. Ali can toy with him afterwards
@@MMAJudge. Yeah youre probably right. 7 is more likely. Ali would have continued to wear Tyson down till he turned it on. It would have been interesting though. Anything could happen with Mike in 3
@Shawn3002 Ali himself said it in the early rounds he would move, and stay away from Tyson, because thats when he is most dangerous.
Ali would stop Tyson late. The real fight would be Tyson vs. Frazier, and I think he’d stop Tyson late too. George Foreman would stop Tyson early, the same way he did Frazier
I agree Foreman would stop Tyson within a few rounds. Tyson can't fight going backwards, so it would be an exciting fight while it lasts.
Agree with you ali 64.74 will beat him.
@@shehzadhussain6964 The younger version of Ali would not have been on the ropes. He would have been on the move with Foreman chasing him and throwing wild punches and missing. Young Ali would win by TKO on a gassed out Foreman
Tyson would have knocked Ali out.
@@GaryGraeff-br2pn Based on what?
Tyson but only version in 1987-1988.
@@jakub8836 too inexperienced for Ali
@@MMAJudge. The subject matter is Ali vs Tyson in their prime, and in their prime would have been both fighters are 23 years old, and that is because of Ali being stripped of his title and suspended for 4 years I believe, and Tyson going to prison for 3 years at age 25. We all missed both of their real prime years.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk yeah so if we go by who would win both at the same ages 22 and up Ali wins. Tyson peaked early at 20 when he won the titl vs a 20 year old Ali now that would be very interesting fight. But Ali is at a disadvantage for sure
Ali lost to Leon Spinks. That's a joke.
@@PhilAltieri Ali was 36 and a really old 36 because of all the damage he had taken in fights. He shouldn't have been fighting even. He was way past his prime.
Ali.
@@brahand Agreed
Impossible to know because Ali was in prison during what would have been his prime years.
@@erroneousbatch you mean Tyson was
@@MMAJudge. Ah, of course, so they both missed their prime years. Cheers for the correction.
@@erroneousbatch Yeah they both didn't get to showcase their prime years in the ring.
@@MMAJudge. That's really a sobering thought: neither of them were ever at the best they could have been.
Prime Mike would kill Ali. You should not listen to Atlas who knew the baby Mike..
journeyman Buster Douglas KNOCKED TYSON OUT IN HIS PRIME 😂😂🤣🤣
fk'd up old Holyfield KNOCKED TYSON OUT IN HIS PRIME 🤣🤣😂😂
Tyson isn't a top 10 heavyweight
Tyson wasn't even the best of his generation. Holyfield & Lewis were.
@@ThreszheR Ali was too skilled for Tyson
@@MMAJudge. No, the -88 version of Mike smokes him, people forget that Mike was very skilled when he had the the passion, he was very hard to hit. You cant compare the lightweight Floyd Patterson with Iron Mike. Also Ali was a hypejob, no way he beat Sonny liston like that, he laid down because people did not like him and the belt had to go to a more likeable champ.
@@cone78omdiaco21 Stupid says, Iron Mike hade a really bad night and did not take care of himself at that time, i am sure he would have KO Douglas in a rematch. But Douglas did good, but you can tell he did not meet with the real Mike who was like a zombie in that fight.
Ill pick Tyson with rooney in hes corner .
@@ryanblaney2193 wouldn't make a difference
Love Mike but Ali for the win
@@Aion-wt1it I agree
Ali didn't come from the same world that mike tyon did it would have been a good fight
Both in the peak of their prime,
15 rounds.
Ali wins by KO round 13.
@@billyhall53 potentially sooner stoppage
@MMAJudge. I think you could be right..
@@billyhall53 thanks
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Tyson would beat ali
What are you basing that on?
@@MMAJudge. Ali vs. Frasier 1, 2, and 3. If Frasier could beat Ali so could a in his prime, in shape Tyson. Tyson punched harder, and was quicker than Frasier. He had the speed of a middleweight, and the power of a heavyweight.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk spot on
I have my money on mike Tyson no man alive can take a punch from iron mike Tyson you couldn't match Mike Tyson in his prime
@@gordonbarber7188 Tyson himself said other fighters hit harder than him...
@@MMAJudge. l have never heard that big George Forman
@@gordonbarber7188 Yeah Tyson himself in his prime admitted in an interview that some past heavyweights hit harder then him. It's on RUclips
Ai would win he would wear him down
@@patgleeson8405 Ali would tire him out, correct
Ali! Tyson hade No chans, even Frazer, Norton, Foreman, Lyle and Leon Spinks was Better whan Tyson👍
@@per-erikostman233 Ali wins by a tko in 10th round or beyond
Ali wins he was in his own league ali v tyson 10 tko ali v lewis 12 tko ali v bowe 10r 5r decision
@@shehzadhussain6964 Ali definitely wins
Tyson
@@johnjohn741 why
Tyson wasn't even the Best of his OWN era. He also avoided top contenders so we don't know how good or bad he was. We have only the bums and fringe contenders to judge him by. He was Kayoed by a 42-1 underdog. KNOCKED OUT!
@@cone78omdiaco21 Tyson's prime was very short ( late 80s). In the 90s his career was pretty bad. He didn't have impressive wins after he came back to boxing.
@@MMAJudge. I LOVE reading the excuses they make for a Man who lost ALL his big fights. had 6 losses. 5 by KNOCKOUT and quit in another. Took the 10 count 3 times. TWICE begged his corner to STOP a fight and has the distinction of being the MOST KNOCKED OUT and MOST OVERRATED HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP OF ALL TIMES.
@@cone78omdiaco21 Ali on the other hand had some of his toughest opponents and signature wins when he came back from being banned from boxing. Even though he lost some of his abilities.
Lennox LEWİS The Best 🥊🇹🇷
@@Koroglu381 Lennox was good, but major weakness was his chin
When do you consider Ali in his prime? Because at thee age 20 - 28 he was NOT in his prime, but Tyson at age 20 -25 was in his prime, and that Tyson was almost unbeatable except for B. Douglass, and that was an untrained/unprepared Tyson.
@@CharlesBrown-yh7nk Ali from the Liston fight until the Zora Foley fight I would consider when he was at his best in the ring. Ali wasn't allowed to reach his physical peak( his prime) since he wasn't allowed to box. We didn't get to see his real prime years in the ring.
yea yea I've heard that excuse a million times, LOL.. Tyson lost cos he's been champion for long, Tyson lost cos Cus just died, Tyson lost cos Rooney this n that, Tyson lost cos blah blah blah!🤣🤣🤣🤣. WHY can't u fanboys just face and accept the fact that he lost cos he's overrated and was outclassed and not as invincible as u fanboys thought him to be!! Hahaha excuses excuses!😂😂😂😂
@msimndofga-jg2vt I agree 👍🏻
@@cone78omdiaco21 you have a point
@msimndofga-jg2vt What did you think of Tyson before the Douglas fight?
Prime George Foreman at his best Beats any boxer in any ERA. Greatest ever
How can that be true, if Ali beat Foreman when he was in his prime and Ali wasn't?
Well he was in his prime in 1974 when he fought Ali and got knocked out
@@TheNYHITTINGACADEMY yeah he was at his peak
Ali would drag Tyson to the deep end and drown him. I like Tyson but he is outclassed in this one.
Styles make fights, and Ali has the style to beat Tyson
Mike Tyson would destroy Ali. That is because Ali can't take any of Mike Tyson's punches.
That's funny. Ali fought harder punchers who landed cleanly on him and he didn't go down. Ali can take Tyson's punch. The only way he would get knocked out is if Tyson landed several punches in a row. But Ali was good at avoiding being hit consecutively.
@@MMAJudge. I don't think so Ali's style is backpedaling. So you are right but Mike Tyson will chase Ali down. Now in case you're haven't noticed Ali couldn't run for the entire fight against any of his opponents. Tyson pursued all of his opponents with reckless abandon. Let me say it again Ali can't take any of Mike Tyson's punches.
@@MartyChavis Earnie Shavers hits harder than Tyson... Ali paced himself to be able to go the distance if needed so he could avoid Tyson's power shots. Tyson doesn't knock people out in later rounds.
@@MMAJudge. You mean Ali backpedals. Ali could never go toe to toe with Mike Tyson in a slug out brawl. Let me say it again Ali can't take any of Mike Tyson's punches. Now who broke Ali's jaw?
@@MartyChavis ken Norton did but Ali wasn't knocked out, he finished the fight. Tyson is short heavyweight, he will keep chasing Ali and not be able to cut off the ring. Tyson's stamina will run out, he won't be hitting as hard in the later rounds.
If Tyson could get knocked out by a mediocre fighter like Buster Douglas, surely Ali would have no problem beating him.
@@MajidAndary I agree
Spot on. 👋👋
many mediocre fighters beat ali
@michaelchesney8680 3 of his losses were when he was so past his prime, Ali should have been retired. The Spinks, Holmes and Berbick fights were when Ali was old and had wear and tear.
@@michaelchesney8680 Ken Norton wasn’t mediocre, sphinx got lucky coz Ali didn’t take it seriously and beat him in a rematch. Berbik and Holmes were in their prime and Ali (not knowing at the time) had early signs of Parkinson’s and was way too old to fight. Except for his fight with Holmes when his trainer Dundee stopped the fight on Ali’s behalf, Ali never went down and stayed down like Tyson did.
Ali