Why Did The Jedi DESTROY The Mandalorian Homeworld?
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Why did the Jedi and the Republic turn Mandalore into an uninhabitable wasteland?
The MOST EVIL Atrocity Committed By The Jedi (The Sith Genocide)⬇
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A recent episode of the Book of Boba Fett showed how the empire carpet-bombed the Mandalorian homeworld of Mandalore during an event known as the great purge. However, this massacre by the Empire was only finishing what the Jedi and Republic started many years before. In canon, the reasons why the Jedi devastated Mandalore is unclear although the expanded universe holds some answers. The Mandalorians had always been distrustful of the Republic, maintaining a distinct culture and refusing to integrate into the wider galaxy. 738 years before the clone wars, the Republic decided that this needed to change. Despite the fact the Mandalorians had been allied with the Republic and had helped vanquish the Sith, the Republic became distrustful of the flourishing Mandalorian economy and increasing independence. The Republic and Jedi therefore unleashed a preemptive strike against the Mandalorians, reducing their lush planet to a desert, installing a puppet government, and banning their religion in what would become known as the Mandalorian Excision.
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The MOST EVIL Atrocity Committed By The Jedi (The Sith Genocide)⬇
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Wasn't it because Darth maul took over the planet or something
While the atrocities committed by the jedi are many id say the worst is millennia of kidnapping and indoctrinating children.
Considering how the Jedi are the “good guys” they commit a lot of war crimes
I think what makes Star Wars great is that no side or faction is ever perfect. There are so many moral dilemmas, especially among force sensitives.
But yes I agree the Jedi are dicks
Most in history who deem themselves the good guys are evil tyrants. The true good guys know they’re monsters that have the ability to tame it (dark side).
@@TALKINGtac0 I agree with the fact that no faction is ever perfect
This is legends anyway
Just like in the real world, it’s very rare that both sides of the war are innocent of war crimes just like in the world wars and before that
When anakin said “ from my point of view the Jedi are evil” I felt that
I think the whole galaxy felt that soon after, to be fair
Not as evil as the Sith
Perfectly encapsulated radicalization.
@@Your_Dad-f5z No, even more evil. The fact that they think what they are doing is right and that everyone with the force should follow the Jedi rules makes them more evil than the Sith.
@@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 yeah let’s see what’s gonna happen to force sensitive children who don’t follow the light side, ok lemme open up my book real quick 📖 👓 🤏🏽… ah there it is: mass genocide with billions and billions of people getting sliced by red lightsabers. Now let’s open up the next page to see why 📖: if you leave force sensitive children their parents will have a bad time when arguing with their force sensitive children, pushing the children towards dark side and if that isn’t enough some Sith psycho like maul would kidnap them and try to establish his empire using force sensitive children as his enforcers.
Obi-Wan: FoR a ThOuSaNd GeNeRaTiOnS tHe JeDi WeRe ThE GuArDiAnS oF pEeCE ‘n JuStIs AcRoSs ThE gAlAxY.
Mandalorians: Bruh?
Separatists: Bruh?
@@flightlesslord2688 literally any other force group: Bruh?
mandalorian:You racist as hell you're the worst seriously talking about being peaceful say it's my mandalorian Brothers jerk
Technically back then when that was written, most of the legends ideas would have been canon/the direction things were going and Mandalore hadn't been destroyed by the Jedi
Thank God this is only legends, but knowing Disney they always make the bad stuff canon 😑😒
As much as I love the Jedi, their Order before 66 is admittedly not one that I favor. Both the Jedi and Republic were meant to be a joint-supportive government, not a controlling one. The council was to proud and fearful for their reputation and that is not the true Jedi way.
Well, they *were* joint supportive until Palpatine was given emergency powers.
Exactly the prequels veey well display downfalls of of the order
@@Emppu_T.
Even so, they were supportive to abusive powers and situations.
Also Jedi Council sits right on top of Sith temple.
And Darth Bane exploited that centuries before the Empire
@@MP-vc4nu …On Coruscant?
So the Jedi isn't too different than the Empire
They were just a different type of extreme. Which just shocks me that Luke basically falls back in with orthodox jedi teachings of detachment and such. Canon Luke is disappointing
@@valiensr1037 yeah, especially since what he ended up doing was just a repeat of obi-wan... If he'd talked with ghost dad for a long time, he'd know not to try to kill people who "will become evil" because you're literally the cause of that... The entire rebellion, Han, Leia, everyone's blood is on Luke's hands because the First Order was allowed to form
"From my point of view the Jedi are evil" When you realize Vader was right.
Isn't?
@@JOVAHK11N *casually ignores the youngling slaying*
Kind of forgot the part where the Mandalorians started several wars and tried to conquer large parts of the Galaxy. They also allied with the Sith and were generally unpleasant.
*forgets all the jedi crusading and racism and zenophobia the republic loves*
@Unknown Ender I'm not supporting what they did, I'm saying they had a reason to do it. Mandalore's history is much more complex than this guy implies
@@admiral3075 🤦
Thought as such.
@@admiral3075 which is why pre empire republic was the most diverse yeah right.
_"The answer is unclear."_
Me, an intellectual: _"Neo-Crusades, The Cathar Massacre, The Mandalorian Wars, etc."_
The answer is pretty obvious, the Republic and general galaxy was terrified of the Mandalorians, outside the Sith they were the biggest threat the galaxy faced so the thought they could rally again was enough for the Republic to bomb them to hell and back. To be honest, I wish the Mandalorians won.
So basically like why Frieza destroyed Planet Vegeta and kill all Saiyan's?
Yeah this is like some fear mongering shit like you wouldn't think the jedi would kill with no real provocation seems pretty sithy to me
The EU isnt a pary of SW no more, especially when you are talking about the book of boba fett
@@shiningamaterasu2579 Those events are canon.
@@ezekielmcq6885 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, bro it’s made pretty clear many times that the Jedi aren’t the “good guys” and with aren’t the “bad guys” just for balance and disorder and all that nonesense. This is 100% something the Jedi would do, like you know……. Forcibly kidnapping children and raising them from birth to have no attachment to other beings and to blindly trust their clearly corrupt leadership or they were “sith” or “falling to the dark side”
Huh, I wonder how many of those Mandalorian heads Master Yoda sent flying at the behest of the Republic? 🤔
If the initial preemptive attack took place ~700 years before the Clone Wars, he was definitely alive then and old enough to have been a full fledged Jedi.
Did a quick Google search, according to Wookiepedia Yoda was granted the rank of Master at the age of 96, which is still extremely young for his species if we look at Grogu, so he was definitely involved in the war.
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Mandolorians: In our culture we call him demon.
Yoda: put me down, please. Tired, I am.
When anakin said "from my point of view, the jedi are evil" I thought that was dumb as a kid because the jedis were heroes. Now, growing up, I realised anakin was right, from a certain point of view
"Good is a point of view." I'd have to delve further to see if this was engineered by the Sith at the time or if paranoia took hold. Destruction on such a scale damages the Living Force, and could be interpreted as an act shaded by the dark side
Kinda like the right thinks the left is misguided, and the left thinks the right is evil. I could see a resemblance.
Well the mandalorains kinda had it coming after the war crimes they commited
This is NOT the way
Da wae
The mandalorians and the Jedi have been mortal enemies for thousands of years, if you look at the fight between maul savage and Palpatine you'll see a huge mural of mandalorians killing Jedi. That's like their whole thing. Ofc eventually the more powerful side would say "you know what? I've had it with these guys get em outta here"
Yeah that'd why the "more powerful" side had to sneak attack like pussies with help. 😂
Fuck the Jedi.
Kotro explains why
The fact that Revan destroyed the mandalorian and decades later this wound still bleed, makes him more badass
Obi wan:"the jedi were the guardian of peace"
Mandalorians: "I beg you FUCKIN' pardon?"
“Jedi are the good guys”
The Jedi:
So essentially the Jedi were really sithy in the sense that they were fearful of everything and gave into the thought of “oh, I’ll just destroy them 😃” and so they did and still somehow managed to keep the guise that they’re Jedi
Describing the jedi as "fearful" is really ironic actually lol
If youve read the Revan book, youd know the mandalorians were used by the siths to check on how powerful the republics army was
Though jedi have many flaws, what happened to Mandalore was, if anything, caused by their own doing. There's a very good reddit post that analyze the context behind Mandalore's downfall and why the Jedi were not a protagonist behind it. Mandalorian culture is, in its core, a very warmongering one. You let it loose and next thing you know they'll be conquering worlds just because they feel like it and their lives are just about that: conflict.
Do you have a link so I can read that?
@@loltio111 I'll grab it for you, give me a minute
@@andrey2070 *7 hours later*
They where the empire becmfore the empire was a thing, and then given enough time the republic becomes the empire. How about that. Interesting.
2 days later 😂
I thought the they tried fighting the entire galaxy an were in the verge of winning until revan turned the tide of war
That was over 3000 yrs prior in the mandalorian wars. The vid literally said this took place 750 yrs before TCW tf lool
The Mandalorians remind me of Japan and the Samurai.
More like Vikings to me. Each his own though.
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 I was talking about the code of honor and not wanting to integrate with the modern world. But I see what you mean with the Vikings.
"ReMiNdS mE oF jApAn AnD tHe SaMuRaI" no they dont correlate like wtf? And the explanation u give is loose at best xD
Jedi- samurai, mandalorian-viking
Yoda: turn to the Sith why did you?
Me: cuz I read the shit we’ve done in history.
The Jedi couldn’t let another religion become too powerful
Look up Raven…
Ironic.
I didnt know this,now im glad grogu chose the armor.
“Called the great purge”
Wasn’t it called the night of 1000 tears?
Both ways
You forgot the Mandalorians served the multiple Sith empires, but served no purpose to Lord Sidious in his conquest of the galaxy. They were a well trained well equipped army and in SW Rebels Mandalore turned against the empire.
It wasn’t the Republic just being evil.
"The Republic and the Jedi released a pre-emptive strike" uh... either there are many details missing here, or the Jedi have always been corrupt LOL
Lmao exactly what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure from some readings I've done high as hell at 2 A M, there definitely was a growing conflict. They didn't just attack them out of nowhere
Yea that is bs mandalorians always liked war and conquest more than 2000 years before the battle of yavin they started a large scale conquest backed by dark forces that's why revan went and fought against them and won
“The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power”-the supreme chancellor
Yoooo my boy is talking about Mandalor! HAIL TO THE MAND’ALOR!
This is the way
Yet it's funny that Din knows nothing of the Jedi and the woman Mandalore only knew "of them"
Revan was the biggest brain force sensitive
The Jedi are a great metaphor for real world superpowers who believe to be doing the right thing all the time, that the ends always justify their means
Wonder who that could be 🤔 anyone got ideas?
All governments in the world
@@anythingthoughanythingthou2453 not all current governments. Current being the keyword.
What governments stand for now is what my original comment was towards
@@IveGotRedOnMe Russia and China
@@thatoneperson6969 that and USA, great Britain and pretty much every UN country too
Ah, yes, we all know Scotland.
sounds like same thing that happen to black wall street to me
And that is why I am a sith mandalorian my brothers and sisters were to weak
"Stop resisting. You are being rescued."
*"The mandalorian will always say when he was wronged, but he'll never tell you why"*
If people ever really want to consider the Jedi are evil, this would be one thing to look at.
Exar Kun knew how to treat the Mandalorians.
Wait didn't the mandalorian war started because the mandalorians started attacking to challenge the republic? Despite the fact that mandalorians are killing innocents, the jedi didn't join the war... This led Revan, Meetra and others to take action due the jedi's inaction... Which eventually led to Revan's fall and Meetra becoming a wound in the force...
To add to this, I heard that the republic was recovering from the dark ages so to speak (the in universe explanation for why technology in the old republic was better than a new hope) and the mandalorians were crucial in restoring order to the galaxy. But the mandalorians were experiencing there own dark ages and were just starting to recover when this happened.
In the clone wars TV series they also state the reason why its mostly uninhabitable is because of many civil wars leaving the planet barren eventually
One of my friends told me the Jedi were bored so they destroyed it. You could be right too tho
Hmm
WOW! Master Yoda has many secrets given he told Luke he trained Jedi for 800 years! This is something the Sith would not hesitate to do.
'History lesson, the jedi won the war with Mandalore'
-Kanan Jarrus
Didn’t mandalorians constant war with eachother have a role into Turing the grassy fields into what we know it to be now?
The Jedi deserved Order 66 for their hypocritical ways.
They struck first because of how quickly the Mandalorians were growing in terms of military strength and technological advancements. Due to their warrior beliefs, they never would have allied or made a peace treaty with the Republic if asked civilly. Also, besides the Sith Empire and the Nihil, Mandalore was the only other military superpower that came close to destroying the Republic in the past.
the mandalorians were the aggressors, and worked with the sith in KOTOR. they were murderous fiends. they got what they deserved.
Kotor was thousands of years before this…
I love justifying mass murder for something that happened 1000s of years ago
@@0_Null And they were building back up to do it again. They were building their military back up rapidly in an era of peace that didn't justify it, forcing neighbouring sectors into shoddy "Defensive pacts", and pro-peace Clan Leaders were being shouted down because the very idea of joining the Republic as partners was anathema and apparently would stop them from being warriors.
They were 100% gearing up for another crusade. The only difference is that this time the Republic showed a bit of hindsight and wasn't about to deal with this shit again.
Mandalore earned the Excision.
of course this all happened because the dark saber was not won in combat. smh…
At least Revan actually had justifiable reasons for the Mandalorian Wars
Man the republic and Jedi kinda suck cause they wiped out the Mandalorians (including women and children) shows how they want others to be ruled by them and do it forcefully, same like the empire but they established trade economies like with Ewoks and others
Meanwhile in the modern era the Republic is so decayed the Senate can't even decide if the unprovoked invasion of Naboo is a bad thing.
When the Jedi needed to fight them they didn’t but it’s peace they fight them 😢
The mandalorians made nukes way earlier in their time, destroyed most of their planet, making it uninhabitable
I recalled reading that in one of the Star Wars book but it look like they recon it or the Mandaloran home planet was actually Nuked mutiple times by mutiple people.
This is why the force increased the dark side of the force and gave power to Darth Sideous and stripped the Jedi of the ability to use it against him effectively. Then purged both sides later on.
No wonder death watch was pissed at the Jedi and the republic. I'd be pissed too.
You need to make a podcast
Preemptively striking your opponent is so Jedi.
All those who gain power are afraid to lose it, even the Jedi.
Power hates competition
The more I learn about the atrocities commited by the Jedi the more I realize Darth Vader truly brought balance to the force by slaying them to the brink of extinction
The jedi devastated Mandalor because they beat the shit out of the jedi to retake Coruscant, Riven only bearly beat them, the Empire continued because if Mandalor is ever united again, they could take over the galaxy
Time and time again, its just shown that the jedi dealt in absolutes. They couldn't accept differences to their beliefs. It really makes the Sith seem more compassionate than the Jedi ever were. Just to expand that, the Sith from my knowledge were able to use both sides of the force, a balance if you will. The only issue with the majority was greed but even Jedi looking at them as a whole had the same issue. Nothing special or new looking at modern aspects really. The "Grey Jedi" I don't know much about so definitely worth looking into myself at least
The sith didn't have any balance of any kind my guy. If a sith were to deviate from the dark side then they're no true sith, it literally goes against the philosophy, they'd just become a 'dark jedi', a dark side user who's not associated with the sith. The whole point of sith philosophy is embracing emotions and selfishness to its fullest and imposing ones will upon the force itself. They can't do that while keeping a a balance with the light. And the whole point of the dark side is that's like a drug addiction, its why it turns the greatest and kindest into the most depraved and selfish. As I said, there's no balance of any kind and I'm kinda baffed where u got that from.
Grey jedi are an interesting in between depending which definition is used since there's 2, but they're philosophy/place in star wars is iffy. Revan was the best example of a "grey jedi" or someone who had mastered a balance between light and dark
What about the constant warring of the mandalores before
@@TY-km8hj no, Sith teachings don't force you to use the dark side. You're allowed to use the force however you desire. The Sith philosophy preaches absolute independence from anything. The idea of breaking your chains is that everything that might influence you should be done away with so that you are free. It's just that the Sith basically became a dark side cult but their teachings itself don't actually force you to embrace the dark and shun the light. It's just that in practice this usually happens.
The problem with the dark side is not that it takes strength to resist it as obi wan claims. What takes true strength is actually using the dark side without it using and corrupting you. And there are Sith that accomplish this. Think about Darth Marr, Darth Malgus, Darth sidious (even though in his youth he already was pretty much evil, the seeds were there. It wasn't the dark side that turned him into the little shit he was), Darth Vitiate, Marka Ragnos, Darth Revan, Darth Nox, Darth Plagueis, that one banite Sith who's name I forgot that basically retired and died (of old age) with his family and friends around him.
Vader for example was a little bitch to his emotions. He was a slave to his emotions and palpatine.
Although selfish and without empathy for the weak these Sith are not killing for fun or being ruled by their emotions. There have actually conquered the dark side and are also for the most part the Sith that are least likely (except for a few like vitiate) to kill you. These are the Sith again except for Vitiate that don't see the point of needless killing and are generally good leaders. Nothing holds them back and that includes empathy, but they are not evil compared to most of their coworkers.
@@TY-km8hj grey jedi's don't actually exist, that's a fan thing.
It gives me a moment of pure hatred each time I get reminded that Disney removed the expanded universe from canon...
I always thought it was cause the republic was so sick of the mandalorians constantly crusading and wars.
But this is is quite upsetting.
They did what every other government does, they saw a group that was thriving without them and out a stop to it.
Even though the Jedi had reason to fear what would happen if mandalorian prosperity continued, it also proved the hypocrisy of the Jedi by destroying those who could threaten their power.
I like to think the Senate was influenced by the Sith Lords at the time, so one of the Sith's enemies could be drastically weakened when they took over, knowing the Mandalorians would've likely sided with the Jedi
I like how they bought the K2-S0 Droids to finish them off. They see that shid in rouge one and we’re like. “Yup..
Front line infantry!”
It isn't unclear why they wiped out most of the Mandalorians. The Mandalorians were on the brink of conquering the galaxy through brutality and enslaving conquered races. Revan and Malak rose up against the Jedi code and orders to not join the war against the Mandalorians. The Jedi who went into battle fell to the dark side and that starts the story for the KotOR series. Most people know this, but this is the reason. The Jedi would have rathered innocent people fall to strife and suffering than lift a finger against the Mandalorians and the Sith saved the galaxy. Weird.
So purging Mandalore was a business argument.
Makes me think Count Dooku was on to something, despite his stupid name.
As someone who really enjoys mandalorian lore , I gotta say the Mandos likely did something more to provoke it than being rich and independent. Mandalorians just aren’t the type not to fight or conqueror someone.
They didn’t ban the Mandalorian’s religion, they banned their cultural identity
The Mandalorian Excision is a fascinating bit of Legends as it shows the Jedi can be morally dubious.
Of course if the old EU had continued I’m sure it would’ve been revealed the Excision was brought about by Sith manipulation that whatever the two Sith Lords were around at the time felt a strong independent Mandalore would be a problem for them so they pushed for it to be dealt with.
Not that that in anyway excuses the Republic or the Jedi for being party to such an atrocity.
It just show how the Jedi were already losing their way and acts a prelude to their downfall in The Clone Wars.
Mandalorians: doesn’t trust the jedi and continues independence
Jedi: Proves the Mandalorians were right not to trust them by destroying their planet
Didn't the Mandalorians cause lot of wars and basically wiped out the Cathar for no reason and they plotted with the sith against the Republic and the Jedi.
Yeah, but we don't talk about it because Mandaloran cool!
It sort of reminds me of WW2 with Japan where no one talk about the terrible stuff they did but only that it terrible that the US nuked them. That the people revered those old time but they don’t talk about the negative stuff they done.
Didn’t the Mandalorians basically act as space pirates that invaded slaughtered and moved to their next victim-planet?
Their old culture literally had giant war droids as a centerpiece of status and war tactics that involved raining down armies of Mandolorians on said droids like a meteor shower
Nobody expected the Jedi inquisition
I guarantee not every Jedi was on board with destroying Mandalor, he’ll they helped fight the eternal empire
The last great struggle between the Jedi and the Mandalorian warlords resulted in a large battle on Mandalore. This caused a cataclysm that scorched much of the planet's surface into lifeless white desert and ending the conflict, the Jedi emerging victorious so that’s why the planet is completely fucked
Nice vid
Yes because that worked so well after the great hyperspace war
I know two wrongs don’t make a right but, I mean, the Mandalorians did start a war prior to this so it ain’t all unfair. 🤷♂️😭
This is why I would rather be a mandalorian over a jedi. Qui-Gon is probably the best jedi in history
I see through the lies of the Jedi!
This puts the fall of the jedi order in a new light. So if a world wants to keep their independence & gets too prosperous they get destroyed?
Damn even the Jedi got a dark history, what goes around comes around.
Malachor V was destroyed during the mandalorian wars in the KOTOR, idk if it's canon
ANAKIN: ''In my eyes the Jedi are evil!"
Unrelated but, if you think about it, the entirety of the prequels is trilogy where the protagonists are corrupt and mostly twisted and most of us (including me) love that trilogy. Kinda disturbing.
That was probably Revan era
Oh so basically it’s kinda like Judgement day from Terminator
According to current Canon it was civil wars which did that, not the Republic. Also even if it was the Republic that doesn't mean the Jedi had anything to do with it.
Everyone was scared of the space spartans
You know, the point of Lucas' Jedi and Sith was to have a clear good guy and a clear bad guy and this kind of content turning the Jedi evil is a disgrace on the simplicity Lucas wanted
Judging by some of the comments it seams he intentionally leave stuff out to make the Jedi look bad and making it a ovwr simplified about what actually happen. Also Mandaloran has a history of starting wars, Genocide, and warcrime. Like they torture and enslaved a entire race till they devolved into animal that they still used. Like those dragon you see the Mandaloran riding to attack the red skin Sith? That used to be a intelligent alien race that they conquered and enslaved, and they still used those aliens as a beast of burden.
Love your content
So much about the Jedi is really messed up.
I don't recall any of this in the BoBF
See, even the fucking "good guys" are messed up
This right there is why I never truly believed the Jedi were the "good guys" their ways often seemed just as wrong as the Sith's. Taking things by force and not allowing other's to stand on their own two feet with their own cultures and beliefs, that sounds more like an empire thing to do, yet here we are, all the same in some ways.
I always tried to explain to my father how Jedi and Sith really aren't that different, there is no black or white, there is grey areas all over and just because we usually see the Jedi's point of view, while being told they're the good guys does not mean they can't also be bad people.
(Of course he didn't have the same beliefs so I cut down some younglings while maintaining intense eye contact. He never stood up to me again so I call that an absolute win!)
I am a strong believer in the jedi being the good guys, but that doesn't change the fact that even they aren't completely innocent.