I have been waiting to see how low it gets. I want to buy up a bunch of stocks. But I need it to get just a little lower and I am all in. I feel like we all need to be doing this. This way we can start to grab control of this company.
Looking forward to seeing how they get out of this mess and what strategy they use. Going to be super awkward, if they don't have any new IP's to offer up or go for unfavourable microtransactions which don't really mesh well with classic.
@@RafaelMarcF22 What..? First off I agree that there's a chance that it might be cancelled because Activision is a horrible at long term businesses, they only think short term. But saying that classic wouldn't be profitable is just silly, do you know how many fans prefer the "old ways" to the hamster wheel we got today? Original WoW fans are far more loyal than the targeted audience today, all they have to do is take a step back(to classic that is) and relight the interest in the game. I like many others have been begging for Blizzard to return to their old ways. I'm not saying I want classic to stay classic for ever, but I think it's better to take a step back and work from there, it's obvious that a lot of changes and implementations added to the game are unwanted but Activision refuse to change these and admit they were wrong. The point being, do you know how many millions of players are just waiting to resubscribe? But that ain't going to happen until we get some real change and some real god damn innovation in our games.
@@smutserkling6848 I'd try classic even though I got into WoW like 2 years ago. Although I'd like to play newer races and expacs but with classic-ish game design (as if WoW didn't get dumbed down in some ways through new expacs but instead grew). Who knows, maybe that would come later.
@@RafaelMarcF22 An already made game just needing converted to the new engine, minimal investment required, probably less than a couple million in total payroll, it will run on the same server infrastructure as the existing client, therefore no further investment after payroll, yet you don't see how it could be profitable? Even if they only get 500k new subscribers for a year, that's 90 million in sub revenue alone, it almost can't not be profitable.(that doesn't even count the money they made on virtual ticket sales from people who just wanted to play the demo during blizcon.)
"Due to a series of unfortunate lay offs here at Blizzard, some projects needed to be put on indefinite hold. Not to worry though, our remaining teams are hard at work and very focused on what we believe our customers truly want from us as a company, mobile games."
Morhaime made the right choice getting out when he did! All those people getting screwed over in this monumental clusterfuck is proof Activision can't organise a pissup in a brewery. Fingers crossed for all those affected by this and their future prospects. Hopefully, this won't impact classic but I don't see how they don't milk that cash cow at our expense when they do it to their own employees ...
As usual, big execs make huge mistakes, but who gets the short end of the stick, low levels i was fired along 400 others back in the day, year later, 400 more, from a "database and software company", so it's not new, happened before, is happening now and it will happen again
@@sheevthewireless110 That is the logical fallacy that creates payers. Payers just pay... game pops out, pay drops down. Consumers are educated, and only purchase when the benefit of a product outweighs the cost. If we had more consumers, then half these companies would not control billions of dollars for putting DLC skins in their games.
I have a parts list together just too build a new one for classic myself but I'm watching and waiting. I'll be pissed if I spend the cash and it turns into a shit show
@@Golemoid nah, they use new engine for classic. But also, don't waste to much money. You can just buy AMD ryzen and use integrated graphic. Some 300$ machine should be just fine.
I truly hope it comes out late June or early July since I have four weeks off in that period. Give us bad weather as well so that I dont feel like im missing out on summer.
Personally, I don't think the dev team for classic has any plans or desire to put a cash shop in classic beyond the services vanilla had back in the day. But I also think that if activision decided to step in, or upper blizz management, and DEMAND that classic be monetized further in some way, it definitely could happen. It's not likely, but it's definitely not impossible. Activision can do whatever it wants with these products
The marketing defilement of our beloved gaming industry is gross and is now backfiring. If left untouched by this cash grab marketing scheme, the immense success of classic will reopen the eyes of companies and investors to the value of quality game design and stand as a benchmark for future business.
Some time ago, a Blizzard manager was asked if there were any plans to add cash shop, loot boxes, and/or microtransactions to WoW, and he reportedly said "when pigs fly." I present Hogrus.
Was thinking a similar thing since the other plummeting gaming stock EA had just released Apex. I honestly think that Acti Bliz will announce a project they've been working on.
What.. back before 2008? Even then, they let themselves fall into the shareholder hell that let to their merger. If it weren't for corporate greed, they could have maintained a solid position without a parent company.
If they add anything to the Classic shop besides account services like server transfers then they risk losing the subs that Classic is trying to get back...
I don’t think you will get anything on classic they will talk retail some and talk about cost cutting and how they are improving their eps for next qtr
i'm happy for anyone looking forward to classic, I myself prob will stay on bfa. mainly because I usually focus on 1 char only at the time. but how are they planning on releasing this and not hurting bfa even more? maybe the demand is high of enough but idk
For those who may lose their jobs, i hear Cloud Imperium games is looking to hire 100+ people, including some in their LA office. Since Blizz has a lot of employees in/around LA, it might be worth checking out. Other offices include Austin Texas, Wimslow UK and Frankfurt Germany.
If Activision puts a cash shop into classic wow, shits gonna hit the fan. Ppl will make change.org petition. They will boycott the game, they would put the final nail in their coffin. The classic audience ain't having any of that shit!
It isn't like they are devoting that many people to the project to begin with... if people subbed for 1-2 months, bought a few things, and then quit.. it would probably be a huge gain.
@@someone-ji2zb Yeah but if they don't ppl keep on playing classic wow for years and they could boast about their sub numbers again, to the public and to investors. Not to mention all the sub money they would be making. Its definitely a bad decision especially since Blizzard would be dead to every single fan by then. The only good games they have left at that point is the WoW and Wc3 remaster. If they fuck them up, they are dead...
Blizzard might not even make it that far to get classic launched at this rate. Their stocks are over 50% down in around 6 months. You'd be lucky to get Classic without level 60 boosters and tones of microtransactions, to help keep their company afloat for a little while longer.
No you will put up with it like the rest of us and enjoy the old school gameplay lol. We're not getting a perfect replica of Vanilla that just will never happen but we can get a good old school version of WoW and call it "Classic". I wish greed wasn't a factor here but since it is we're probably looking at a WoW Token and "Cash Shop" at some point. I know it sucks but look at OSRS they're doing amazing for almost 6 years now and they have a "wow token" called Bonds. still successful and enjoyable. World of Warcraft Classic will do fine.
Next year is going to be a lean year for Blizzard. Most of their existing games are dying slow (or with BFA and HotS, quick) deaths and I'm not aware of any new games in the pipeline besides rehashes like Classic and WC3.
If they add a cash shop, they'll lose alot of people. But its 90% gonna happen so the best we can hope for is no pay to win. No boosts. For mounts the only ones i think would be acceptable is the blizzcon 2005 bear.
Classic is no fan service for the community. It's a service for the investors. Keep the players paying and subscribed. It's sad and tells a lot that Blizzard has nothing else to offer but remaking 15 year old games.
I feel like classic is in grave danger of being altered n turned into a mess. The only hope we have is an independent blizzard or a new studio to take the mantle and make the next best mmorpg
I don't think something like that could happend, the main reason of that its the "Apex Legend's Boom", every streamer are playing it and ofc a lot of people too, tomorrow it's the Apex tournament and from a "Smart" decision they will wait for Apex's boom ends so they can get all the players that get a lit bit boring of apex
I almost wish they would charge monthly to play Classic (I originally expected them to anyways). That away we could be a little more resistant to Activision needing to poke Vanilla for money and it could give us more "Vote with our dollar" power. If they added some Vanilla breaking mechanic or flavor, mass exodus from a patch or what not would have more of a meaningful impact that they would pat attention to. I just want a good Classic experience... Holding my breath till the day it comes. And likely every day after with this company :P
I have a hunch that there will be no cash shop or any kind of promotional material attached classic and that’s the unpopular opinion because there’s so much skepticism in the community. I feel like there’s nothing to really monetize besides the sub fee and character transfers, factions changes etc etc. I don’t recall there being any cash mounts during vanilla wow.
Your opinion is an unpopular one, because the stocks and shareholder reports for Activision Blizzard show they are in a very bad spot right now and are only sinking further.. and now they announce another several hundred jobs are being terminated? BLizzcon already showed us they didn't give a flying crap about what their 'old' community wanted when they decided to screw over both diablo fans with a mobile announcement and announce loot trading and some form of sharding for classic. They are absolutely willing to change the game, and they decided to shock people at a huge convention meant to hype people up? Yea, the worst has yet to be revealed to us.
yeah bro most likely they will fuqq it up but i still will play it just so i can say i knew that would happen xD on the other hand if they dont fuqq it up i will have the best time of my life again and play and play full nolife mode i bet they will include this fucking loot sharing but if enough people will complain early on and there will be more drama then witout this feature im sure blizzard might patch it out when it doesnt matter anymore and the dmg is already done because people already abused their loot sharing feature and got ironfoe xD and thats the most important thing the time when it gets removed will either ensure the survival of the game or the downfall and if they rlly choose to stick to this fucking legion based combat system i will definitly play a cc' class like mage or rogue because not being able to get cced anymore if u act first is sooo broken and in classic it was common that 2 people get stunned at the same time i will miss that and i hope many people will flame so we might actual get a true 1.12 server and not this retail shit running on a 1.12 patch
putting in any form of RMT into classic is going to be the last nail into Activision's coffin. They are done for as a company as soon as they refuse to deliver. There's a reason why the classic wow is called Vanilla.
Remember when this guy told people that he thought that classic wow would have be bundled into a full BFA purchase? And to waste their hard earned money on a limited time 50$ demo. This guy IS an investor, when alexsensual talks about people with 'special treatment' from Activision blizzard for free gifts and internet publicity this guy comes to mind.
Not really. All of these companies announced they were moving to mobile development in some capacity (or in Blizzard's case, almost entirely) and even went on to produce some crappy game(s) (bethesda and fallout 76 for example). EA with apex legends is now doing extremely well... it only takes one popular title and things go back to normal for these guys. Once Activision Blizzard gets their crappy mobile games out, I am sure the big dip will be over and they will be back to being stable. You need to ask yourself one thing. Why did activision and EA make 200 billion from microtransactions alone since 2012? Because consumers bought stuff. People with no self control willing to spend half their paychecks or get their parents credit card are to blame for so many of these companies going for cash shop crap.
You make it sound like tens of millions of people aren't already dumping half their paychecks on microtransactions anyway.. look at the top earners for these companies. EA+Activision made 200 billion from 2012-2018 on microtransactions alone. People are absolutely WILLING to buy crap through in game cash shops and these companies know it. Bottom line is that they already announced at Blizzcon that classic will not be 100% the same, and that already turned off a lot of veteran (older) players... so why aim their marketing strat at the older people now?
Hey tips, not only that but they laid off hundreds of people it looks like and with the current financial situations it doesn’t seem like they’ll hire a bunch of QA guys to deal with reports or gear trading, so self management solutions like player gear trading and right click reporting might be more of a reality.
If a cash shop releases in Classic WoW, I can guarantee two things: 1. all the private servers that closed down or lost members because of the Blizz announcement will see a revival 2. ClassicWoW will make barely any money But I think everyone at Blizz knows this, so I doubt it will happen. If it does, it will be the final nail in the coffin and proof beyond reasonable doubt that Blizzard is actually dead.
I could live with paid server transfers for the right reasons. If Blizz does cap the server limits to Vanilla levels (please) then we are likely to see servers lose population as the hype dies down. I would rather people had the option to pay and choose their preferred server destination. Cash shops for mounts etc I guess I "could" live with, though Ally riding Kodo's just ruins the Vanilla experience for me. Include any form of "Pay to win" and my subscription terminates there and then.
Problem with investors is the investors activision blizzard not happy getting a stream of income from players want more money (does not NEED the money but greed is always a problem for us humans) and you get investors. These take priority over the paying players and the revenue stream and then it all goes south as players see the greed and see the problems cash shops in a pay to play games. And the problem snowballs players start to feel neglected over investors the games start to fail as players quit. Then those investors who have no loyalty start to jump ship a greedy company with no loyalty to its player base falls worst part is anyone with a semi functioning brain can see whats going to happen but so called company executives with business degrees do not. Gamers wont be exploited we might not have gone to a fancy college or university but that does not mean we are suckers. I want to play classic again i want my hunter back i want a mana bar i want to duel wield (stat sticks tbh we used them maybe 5% of the time but HAVING them is important!) i want all the so called "fluff" ability's back i want to be able to fear a druid i want to be able to use multiple stats to improve my performance (agility and stamina are only part of the equation) i want to be able to see more stats i want to be able to train my pet (not just have this thing that needs nothing from me) all these things you took away blizzard and why? because it sure as hell has not improved game play for me my class is a hollow shell of its former self legion was a step in the right direction but soon as it was over what did you do oh yeah strip it back AGAIN! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING MORONS! And what have you given the class i so love in return? ...NOTHING! Sorry that has been building up in me for a long time had to vent guys. and yeah i know a minority wont agree with me you are entitled to your opinions and i am entitled to my own.
You want so many things....sounds really greedy. It's the problem with players who want want want want...except they don't want to pay for anything. WoW is dirt-cheap for the kind of services it provides and yes, with the same resources put into other games (especially the mobile market) Blizzard could make 10-100x the money they make with WoW.
Things like a name change would only be a problem if each realm would be its own community as in vanilla. And they could simply add a new tab to the inspect to see eventual old names that character had. To be able to spot people who changed name to get rid of a certain reputatiom like "ninja looter" etc
No it didn't, capitalism is based on voluntary transactions. If Blizzard decides to completely screw over and change the game for the worse yet people are still buying and playing it, then it's the choice of those people to do so. Capitalism didn't destroy videogames, people that are willing to put up with shitty business practices are.
Faulty logic.. without capitalism, video gaming never would have started. Go look at the leading countries for game development and you might notice a very obvious trend. Money and power corrupts. These companies got big enough to the point where it is all about more and more success. New people will rise eventually and take the place of these scumbags, and in time they will also make the same mistakes based on nothing but extreme greed. What form of government do you think would allow creative minds to flourish if not capitalism?
Hosestly the way the companys gone these days, sadly i think it wont long after the classic launch when they will add the cash shop crap etc..my faith in the company is at rock bottom im afraid
@@Beatlejuicey13 it goes against what classic stands for so hopefully they are wise enough to see that. Otherwise why would people pay blizz when there would be a more authentic version of vanilla available for free.
*Hoping for Classic new,s *Keeping fingers crossed, they will not push classic out to fast or with lots off microtransactions. *expecting them to anounce a new flashy tittle, another battle royal.
it gives a good idea of how quick the marketing fucks up a good product, they squeezed all the juice out of wow without creating something new to balance the process. Now, as always they will leave the cold body to repeat the same with another good game that isn't a cashcow yet. Not many left xD
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I have been waiting to see how low it gets. I want to buy up a bunch of stocks. But I need it to get just a little lower and I am all in.
I feel like we all need to be doing this. This way we can start to grab control of this company.
Pls put the stream on youtube
Looking forward to seeing how they get out of this mess and what strategy they use.
Going to be super awkward, if they don't have any new IP's to offer up or go for unfavourable microtransactions which don't really mesh well with classic.
In tomorrow's news, classic wow dev team disbanded, moved to mobile app version where you can buy a lvl 60 boost for $99.
@Max Draon no i live in a cave :D
@Max Draon flip phone count?
well they did cut hundreds of jobs today so they might have disbanded classic wow team
Makes sense. You can play classic on mobile. Lack of buttons and adons will emulate difficulty.
lmfao . freemium games. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Announcement of an Announcement for hopefully an announcement about classic
@xrelik Been saying the same thing for months. I just don't see any way in which this is profitable for Blizzard.
@@RafaelMarcF22 What..? First off I agree that there's a chance that it might be cancelled because Activision is a horrible at long term businesses, they only think short term. But saying that classic wouldn't be profitable is just silly, do you know how many fans prefer the "old ways" to the hamster wheel we got today? Original WoW fans are far more loyal than the targeted audience today, all they have to do is take a step back(to classic that is) and relight the interest in the game. I like many others have been begging for Blizzard to return to their old ways. I'm not saying I want classic to stay classic for ever, but I think it's better to take a step back and work from there, it's obvious that a lot of changes and implementations added to the game are unwanted but Activision refuse to change these and admit they were wrong.
The point being, do you know how many millions of players are just waiting to resubscribe? But that ain't going to happen until we get some real change and some real god damn innovation in our games.
@@smutserkling6848 I'd try classic even though I got into WoW like 2 years ago. Although I'd like to play newer races and expacs but with classic-ish game design (as if WoW didn't get dumbed down in some ways through new expacs but instead grew). Who knows, maybe that would come later.
looks like classic wow is run by justin sun lel
@@RafaelMarcF22 An already made game just needing converted to the new engine, minimal investment required, probably less than a couple million in total payroll, it will run on the same server infrastructure as the existing client, therefore no further investment after payroll, yet you don't see how it could be profitable? Even if they only get 500k new subscribers for a year, that's 90 million in sub revenue alone, it almost can't not be profitable.(that doesn't even count the money they made on virtual ticket sales from people who just wanted to play the demo during blizcon.)
"Due to a series of unfortunate lay offs here at Blizzard, some projects needed to be put on indefinite hold. Not to worry though, our remaining teams are hard at work and very focused on what we believe our customers truly want from us as a company, mobile games."
Morhaime made the right choice getting out when he did! All those people getting screwed over in this monumental clusterfuck is proof Activision can't organise a pissup in a brewery. Fingers crossed for all those affected by this and their future prospects.
Hopefully, this won't impact classic but I don't see how they don't milk that cash cow at our expense when they do it to their own employees ...
exactly
Nice video, I’ll be tuning in as much as I can tomorrow for the stream!
As usual, big execs make huge mistakes, but who gets the short end of the stick, low levels
i was fired along 400 others back in the day, year later, 400 more, from a "database and software company", so it's not new, happened before, is happening now and it will happen again
And the big execs will get huge boni for "saving so much money" (= firing so many people)
Managers man, they don't know jack squat about high quality gaming experience. For them we are just consumers and developers just laborers.
@@sheevthewireless110 not consumers not gamers, just payer's, remember we are just payer's.
@Ricc Ballard Hmm that's practically the same thing, isn't it? Consumers are the ones who pay for games.
@@sheevthewireless110 That is the logical fallacy that creates payers. Payers just pay... game pops out, pay drops down. Consumers are educated, and only purchase when the benefit of a product outweighs the cost. If we had more consumers, then half these companies would not control billions of dollars for putting DLC skins in their games.
I just got a P.C., after 7 years, just for classic.
I have a parts list together just too build a new one for classic myself but I'm watching and waiting. I'll be pissed if I spend the cash and it turns into a shit show
Lol I'm building one as well for classic. Also need a ISP line installed in the house... Been a while since I gamed
Built mine last week just waiting for my monitor to arrive just for classic, not played wow in over 10 years
lmao the pc you got 7 years ago would run it just fine
@@Golemoid nah, they use new engine for classic. But also, don't waste to much money. You can just buy AMD ryzen and use integrated graphic. Some 300$ machine should be just fine.
I was just wondering about this and then your video hit my feed. xD
please keep us posted...i for one will be playing classic
Thanks Tips
I will check it out tips
This is gonna be fun.
If things go south during the conference call they can just ask the investors if they have phones.
RAGE or HYPE is gonna escalate quickly well over 9000. Soon.
I truly hope it comes out late June or early July since I have four weeks off in that period.
Give us bad weather as well so that I dont feel like im missing out on summer.
Personally, I don't think the dev team for classic has any plans or desire to put a cash shop in classic beyond the services vanilla had back in the day. But I also think that if activision decided to step in, or upper blizz management, and DEMAND that classic be monetized further in some way, it definitely could happen. It's not likely, but it's definitely not impossible. Activision can do whatever it wants with these products
so paying 15$ a month isn't monetized enough? 🤔
@@Golemoid I to za grę, którą już raz kupiliśmy 15 lat temu(jeszcze mam cd i opakowanie) za 200zł.
@@Golemoid What? Yes it is. But classic had paid services too bro.
I dont want ingame stuff for classic. #nochanges
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With sharding, loot trading, draconian silence, and potential cash shop, my classic hopes are not high currently. Hopefully Blizzard reconsiders.
I'm so glad we all have phones!
I think we will definitely be seeing Classic sooner than we thought but Blizzard probably will want to do some marketing around the release first.
It's sad that gaming industry has to please investors instead of focusing upon pleasing players with great products.
The marketing defilement of our beloved gaming industry is gross and is now backfiring. If left untouched by this cash grab marketing scheme, the immense success of classic will reopen the eyes of companies and investors to the value of quality game design and stand as a benchmark for future business.
this is absolutely insane
does tips out mean u walk around with your tip out?
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Just the tip?
9pm UK time for anyone on our little island :)
Some time ago, a Blizzard manager was asked if there were any plans to add cash shop, loot boxes, and/or microtransactions to WoW, and he reportedly said "when pigs fly."
I present Hogrus.
Was thinking a similar thing since the other plummeting gaming stock EA had just released Apex. I honestly think that Acti Bliz will announce a project they've been working on.
If i see or hear about a Cash shop.... R.I.P Wow classic...
*knocks on wood* Classic actually comes out July 16th.
I hope they will tell us something.
Classic is cancelled
@@Sir_Coffee_first_of_his_bean Not funny I would actually cry not even lying lol
@@rayheller9747 at the rate they are going this may be a sad truth
@@Skarin1452 i would cry with you lol
@@arch4916 their attention span would not make it to level 10 =)
remember when it was just blizzard? yeah i do to
What.. back before 2008? Even then, they let themselves fall into the shareholder hell that let to their merger. If it weren't for corporate greed, they could have maintained a solid position without a parent company.
If they add anything to the Classic shop besides account services like server transfers then they risk losing the subs that Classic is trying to get back...
The way I see it. If they don't announce some 'good' news, the stocks will plummet further 'IF' they do indeed announce job cuts.
I don’t think you will get anything on classic they will talk retail some and talk about cost cutting and how they are improving their eps for next qtr
Classic WoW MTX announcement hype!!!!!!
I'm betting on allied races/Overwatch map/HOTS hero announcement tomorrow. Something contrived to alleviate the tension.
Didn't even think about this! A lot of anxiety in the air. If there's monetization in Classic WoW I think it will DEFINITELY hit the playerbase
I don't even believe we're going to get Classic at this point.
I don't believe it before I have installed it from the Battle.net.
Hypeing up to get more money .....
i'm happy for anyone looking forward to classic, I myself prob will stay on bfa. mainly because I usually focus on 1 char only at the time. but how are they planning on releasing this and not hurting bfa even more? maybe the demand is high of enough but idk
BRING CLASSIC ALREADY!!
They fired hundreds of people at Blizzard but then gave their CEO a $15 million bonus
$1m the other 14 was in stock
So that is about 9pm Central European time, right? (Ireland and UK)
It's Tips 👍👍
haha july 16th is my birthday id be so pumped if that was the actual release date
For those who may lose their jobs, i hear Cloud Imperium games is looking to hire 100+ people, including some in their LA office.
Since Blizz has a lot of employees in/around LA, it might be worth checking out.
Other offices include Austin Texas, Wimslow UK and Frankfurt Germany.
are you saying mullify
Read it to fast, thought it said we could get vanilla tomorrow.
12/2/2019 for normal people.
If Activision puts a cash shop into classic wow, shits gonna hit the fan. Ppl will make change.org petition.
They will boycott the game, they would put the final nail in their coffin. The classic audience ain't having any of that shit!
It isn't like they are devoting that many people to the project to begin with... if people subbed for 1-2 months, bought a few things, and then quit.. it would probably be a huge gain.
@@someone-ji2zb Yeah but if they don't ppl keep on playing classic wow for years and they could boast about their sub numbers again, to the public and to investors. Not to mention all the sub money they would be making. Its definitely a bad decision especially since Blizzard would be dead to every single fan by then. The only good games they have left at that point is the WoW and Wc3 remaster. If they fuck them up, they are dead...
get ready for it wow token in classic and they will say it will help against gold farming
Mollify. nice word.
the sliding guhl is awsome! hiding its animation to trap some noob
Not sure blizzard are going to have anyone left to give us classic news...
If it canceled get position for Fresh 3-5 Nostalrius servers with 15K pop. per server
Blizzard might not even make it that far to get classic launched at this rate. Their stocks are over 50% down in around 6 months.
You'd be lucky to get Classic without level 60 boosters and tones of microtransactions, to help keep their company afloat for a little while longer.
I'll quit if they put a shop in it that wasn't there in vanilla
No you will put up with it like the rest of us and enjoy the old school gameplay lol. We're not getting a perfect replica of Vanilla that just will never happen but we can get a good old school version of WoW and call it "Classic". I wish greed wasn't a factor here but since it is we're probably looking at a WoW Token and "Cash Shop" at some point. I know it sucks but look at OSRS they're doing amazing for almost 6 years now and they have a "wow token" called Bonds. still successful and enjoyable. World of Warcraft Classic will do fine.
@@goosekevin nope i wont play classic if it comes with a cashshop with stuff that wasnt in nilla.
@Vonderful "You think you do, but you dooooooon't."
@@rayheller9747 Been reading some of your coments you're just a salty troll. Gtfo.
Thank you. Please stick to this idea--don't cave! And don't listen to anyone on the side of justifying corporate greed!!
If I was an investor I would steer clear of any full price game with micro transactions
Appeal to the gamer and investors will follow
800 employees canned with record growth year... ya but what about classic info for us 2004 tryhards?
cash shop for what ?
Next year is going to be a lean year for Blizzard. Most of their existing games are dying slow (or with BFA and HotS, quick) deaths and I'm not aware of any new games in the pipeline besides rehashes like Classic and WC3.
If they add a cash shop, they'll lose alot of people. But its 90% gonna happen so the best we can hope for is no pay to win. No boosts. For mounts the only ones i think would be acceptable is the blizzcon 2005 bear.
I fear the idea that Blizzard should take out Loot Trading and just hire more Customer Service Reps isn't going to survive the day.
Classic is no fan service for the community. It's a service for the investors. Keep the players paying and subscribed. It's sad and tells a lot that Blizzard has nothing else to offer but remaking 15 year old games.
800 Employees being laid off.. that's not the news we the consumer wanted to hear.
I feel like classic is in grave danger of being altered n turned into a mess. The only hope we have is an independent blizzard or a new studio to take the mantle and make the next best mmorpg
It has already been altered based on what they said at blizzcon. The hype was completely killed at the very convention meant to boost it up.
I just wished Blizzard could escape Activision.
I don't think something like that could happend, the main reason of that its the "Apex Legend's Boom", every streamer are playing it and ofc a lot of people too, tomorrow it's the Apex tournament and from a "Smart" decision they will wait for Apex's boom ends so they can get all the players that get a lit bit boring of apex
I almost wish they would charge monthly to play Classic (I originally expected them to anyways). That away we could be a little more resistant to Activision needing to poke Vanilla for money and it could give us more "Vote with our dollar" power. If they added some Vanilla breaking mechanic or flavor, mass exodus from a patch or what not would have more of a meaningful impact that they would pat attention to.
I just want a good Classic experience... Holding my breath till the day it comes. And likely every day after with this company :P
I have a hunch that there will be no cash shop or any kind of promotional material attached classic and that’s the unpopular opinion because there’s so much skepticism in the community. I feel like there’s nothing to really monetize besides the sub fee and character transfers, factions changes etc etc. I don’t recall there being any cash mounts during vanilla wow.
Neither did name change or faction change
Your opinion is an unpopular one, because the stocks and shareholder reports for Activision Blizzard show they are in a very bad spot right now and are only sinking further.. and now they announce another several hundred jobs are being terminated?
BLizzcon already showed us they didn't give a flying crap about what their 'old' community wanted when they decided to screw over both diablo fans with a mobile announcement and announce loot trading and some form of sharding for classic. They are absolutely willing to change the game, and they decided to shock people at a huge convention meant to hype people up? Yea, the worst has yet to be revealed to us.
I don't know that i'm excited for it anymore.
I don't trust blizzard anymore.
yeah bro most likely they will fuqq it up but i still will play it just so i can say i knew that would happen xD
on the other hand if they dont fuqq it up i will have the best time of my life again and play and play full nolife mode i bet they will include this fucking loot sharing but if enough people will complain early on and there will be more drama then witout this feature im sure blizzard might patch it out when it doesnt matter anymore and the dmg is already done because people already abused their loot sharing feature and got ironfoe xD and thats the most important thing the time when it gets removed will either ensure the survival of the game or the downfall
and if they rlly choose to stick to this fucking legion based combat system i will definitly play a cc' class like mage or rogue because not being able to get cced anymore if u act first is sooo broken and in classic it was common that 2 people get stunned at the same time i will miss that and i hope many people will flame so we might actual get a true 1.12 server and not this retail shit running on a 1.12 patch
I knew u were wrong. Ofcourse they won't announce classic. Classic is just a minor release.
putting in any form of RMT into classic is going to be the last nail into Activision's coffin. They are done for as a company as soon as they refuse to deliver. There's a reason why the classic wow is called Vanilla.
Remember when this guy told people that he thought that classic wow would have be bundled into a full BFA purchase?
And to waste their hard earned money on a limited time 50$ demo.
This guy IS an investor, when alexsensual talks about people with 'special treatment' from Activision blizzard for free gifts and internet publicity this guy comes to mind.
Drop classic and take my money already! :)
I'm gonna hunt a horde for this news.
Red lives matter.
Yeah. But the stocked tanked due cash shop behavior.
Not really. All of these companies announced they were moving to mobile development in some capacity (or in Blizzard's case, almost entirely) and even went on to produce some crappy game(s) (bethesda and fallout 76 for example).
EA with apex legends is now doing extremely well... it only takes one popular title and things go back to normal for these guys. Once Activision Blizzard gets their crappy mobile games out, I am sure the big dip will be over and they will be back to being stable.
You need to ask yourself one thing. Why did activision and EA make 200 billion from microtransactions alone since 2012? Because consumers bought stuff.
People with no self control willing to spend half their paychecks or get their parents credit card are to blame for so many of these companies going for cash shop crap.
They put microtransactions, boosts,pets,mounts on a cash shop. it will kill classic.
Without a Beta? Nope Blizzard won't rush it that fast.
If they put a cash shop in classic they will lose 15 million potential customers immediately. People will probably even quit retail, too.
You make it sound like tens of millions of people aren't already dumping half their paychecks on microtransactions anyway.. look at the top earners for these companies. EA+Activision made 200 billion from 2012-2018 on microtransactions alone.
People are absolutely WILLING to buy crap through in game cash shops and these companies know it. Bottom line is that they already announced at Blizzcon that classic will not be 100% the same, and that already turned off a lot of veteran (older) players... so why aim their marketing strat at the older people now?
Hey tips, not only that but they laid off hundreds of people it looks like and with the current financial situations it doesn’t seem like they’ll hire a bunch of QA guys to deal with reports or gear trading, so self management solutions like player gear trading and right click reporting might be more of a reality.
If a cash shop releases in Classic WoW, I can guarantee two things:
1. all the private servers that closed down or lost members because of the Blizz announcement will see a revival
2. ClassicWoW will make barely any money
But I think everyone at Blizz knows this, so I doubt it will happen.
If it does, it will be the final nail in the coffin and proof beyond reasonable doubt that Blizzard is actually dead.
Oceania servers plz Sir's
I could live with paid server transfers for the right reasons. If Blizz does cap the server limits to Vanilla levels (please) then we are likely to see servers lose population as the hype dies down. I would rather people had the option to pay and choose their preferred server destination.
Cash shops for mounts etc I guess I "could" live with, though Ally riding Kodo's just ruins the Vanilla experience for me.
Include any form of "Pay to win" and my subscription terminates there and then.
My tip is out
Having played on EQ TLP's for the past 5 years; 100% chance Classic WoW will have a cash shop.
the sober and articulate version of Alexsensual
LMAO
Not really, 10 min vid for a 3-5 min vid tops..... but yes, the lesser evil of the two!
@@sturenorth alex was telling the truth since nostalrius days what is wrong with u neckbeards
Problem with investors is the investors activision blizzard not happy getting a stream of income from players want more money (does not NEED the money but greed is always a problem for us humans) and you get investors. These take priority over the paying players and the revenue stream and then it all goes south as players see the greed and see the problems cash shops in a pay to play games. And the problem snowballs players start to feel neglected over investors the games start to fail as players quit. Then those investors who have no loyalty start to jump ship a greedy company with no loyalty to its player base falls worst part is anyone with a semi functioning brain can see whats going to happen but so called company executives with business degrees do not. Gamers wont be exploited we might not have gone to a fancy college or university but that does not mean we are suckers.
I want to play classic again i want my hunter back i want a mana bar i want to duel wield (stat sticks tbh we used them maybe 5% of the time but HAVING them is important!) i want all the so called "fluff" ability's back i want to be able to fear a druid i want to be able to use multiple stats to improve my performance (agility and stamina are only part of the equation) i want to be able to see more stats i want to be able to train my pet (not just have this thing that needs nothing from me) all these things you took away blizzard and why? because it sure as hell has not improved game play for me my class is a hollow shell of its former self legion was a step in the right direction but soon as it was over what did you do oh yeah strip it back AGAIN! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING MORONS! And what have you given the class i so love in return? ...NOTHING!
Sorry that has been building up in me for a long time had to vent guys. and yeah i know a minority wont agree with me you are entitled to your opinions and i am entitled to my own.
You want so many things....sounds really greedy. It's the problem with players who want want want want...except they don't want to pay for anything. WoW is dirt-cheap for the kind of services it provides and yes, with the same resources put into other games (especially the mobile market) Blizzard could make 10-100x the money they make with WoW.
@@RafaelMarcF22 Uhhh its greedy to want back what was taken away? how about no. nice troll tho GG
U are talking 10mins for this small piece of information... Maybe u should work for Activision too they need ppl like u
WoW Immortal
Things like a name change would only be a problem if each realm would be its own community as in vanilla. And they could simply add a new tab to the inspect to see eventual old names that character had. To be able to spot people who changed name to get rid of a certain reputatiom like "ninja looter" etc
Capitalism ruined my god damn video games
Finally someone who gets what the source of this cancerous spread of greed is
No it didn't, capitalism is based on voluntary transactions. If Blizzard decides to completely screw over and change the game for the worse yet people are still buying and playing it, then it's the choice of those people to do so. Capitalism didn't destroy videogames, people that are willing to put up with shitty business practices are.
@@HamsterWheelGaming 'Voting with your wallet' is a myth and this is why
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WITHOUT capitalism you wouldn't have your god damn video games lmao
Faulty logic.. without capitalism, video gaming never would have started. Go look at the leading countries for game development and you might notice a very obvious trend.
Money and power corrupts. These companies got big enough to the point where it is all about more and more success. New people will rise eventually and take the place of these scumbags, and in time they will also make the same mistakes based on nothing but extreme greed.
What form of government do you think would allow creative minds to flourish if not capitalism?
If they add a cash shop to classic wow it will be dead on arrival! Then surely that will be the nail in the coffin for Actiblizz.
Hosestly the way the companys gone these days, sadly i think it wont long after the classic launch when they will add the cash shop crap etc..my faith in the company is at rock bottom im afraid
@@Beatlejuicey13 it goes against what classic stands for so hopefully they are wise enough to see that. Otherwise why would people pay blizz when there would be a more authentic version of vanilla available for free.
This couldn’t be worse. If they do it they will completely implode and what did it look like??
They can't touch Classic. They KNOW it will fail if they do anything that is not VERY close to vanilla. They can't be that stupid.
*Hoping for Classic new,s
*Keeping fingers crossed, they will not push classic out to fast or with lots off microtransactions.
*expecting them to anounce a new flashy tittle, another battle royal.
it gives a good idea of how quick the marketing fucks up a good product, they squeezed all the juice out of wow without creating something new to balance the process.
Now, as always they will leave the cold body to repeat the same with another good game that isn't a cashcow yet. Not many left xD