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  • Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake share their thoughts on some potential Mitch Marner trades.
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  • @michaelbacon8698
    @michaelbacon8698 4 месяца назад +33

    A piece away was a 10m player named Jack Eichel while Vegas was a perennial cup contender

    • @JTAPtv
      @JTAPtv 4 месяца назад +17

      They weren't even in the league long enough to be called a perennial cup contender lol

    • @thepolishprince851
      @thepolishprince851 3 месяца назад +1

      @@JTAPtv more both cups and playoff series wins in 6 years than Toronto has had in what like 50 years?

    • @JTAPtv
      @JTAPtv 3 месяца назад

      @@thepolishprince851 I'm not a Toronto fan so idc. When they got eichel they were not a perennial cup contender

  • @thealbinorhino8760
    @thealbinorhino8760 4 месяца назад +69

    Marner is a weird player. He's elite but his value doesn't sound as high as you hope it is.

    • @late3619
      @late3619 4 месяца назад +11

      These guys don't have a clue, there just guessing.

    • @disinformationworld9378
      @disinformationworld9378 4 месяца назад +10

      Look up what PL Dubois got traded for with one year left.

    • @benoitrobitaille5235
      @benoitrobitaille5235 4 месяца назад +4

      Having Montreal trying really hard to get a decent french canadian player really drove the price up, is Marner real name Miche Marnier by any luck ?

    • @exturkconner
      @exturkconner 4 месяца назад +7

      Value is based on two things, price and performance. Marner is elite but he's paid as an elite player. So he's not outstanding value. A high value player is always going to warrant more in trade then a guy that makes what he should.

    • @thealbinorhino8760
      @thealbinorhino8760 4 месяца назад +2

      ​@exturkconner agreed. I don't see the leafs getting an absolute package of elite players back for Marner who is UFA in one year. If they do good for them. But his value is subjective right now.

  • @tonylloy327
    @tonylloy327 3 месяца назад +7

    That trade 'proposal' with Vegas is an absolute joke 😂. No way Vegas makes that deal.

    • @tonylloy327
      @tonylloy327 3 месяца назад

      Shea Theodore straight up for Auston Matthews, *maybe*.

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад +12

    “By the way, Mitch is going to fetch a lot of stuff”
    Sure thing there sparky, keep thinking that

    • @tonylloy327
      @tonylloy327 3 месяца назад

      Well, he actually should. But the way Leafs Nation has focused their anger and pounded on him since they got eliminated, they've diminished his trade value immensely. Just stupid.

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад

      @@tonylloy327
      No one is giving anything of value.
      Just wait a year and sign him just for money.
      Why would any team give up assets and do Toronto a favor?

    • @patjablonski9739
      @patjablonski9739 3 месяца назад

      @@lordrayden3045 a) You don't know if he'll be available next summer, he and the Leafs could have a change of heart and do a deal or he could get traded later in the season and extend with that team. b) everything is time sensitive, if you're a contending team and you can get Marner now then you have incentive to do that and not to wait. Plus a trade can free up cap room on that team's end, which is something that the Leafs might be interested in since they will still be contending (think the Jets getting Vilardi, Iafallo, etc. back for Dubois and the Flames getting Huberdeau and Weegar for Tkachuk). c) very few players of Marner's age and talent become available at all in today's NHL d) Marner is incentivized to sign an 8 year extension post-July 1. If he goes to free agency he almost certainly isn't getting that 8th year

  • @michaelbacon8698
    @michaelbacon8698 4 месяца назад +31

    Extending Hanifin was to replace Martinez not Theodore 😂

    • @safertobeanonymous2224
      @safertobeanonymous2224 4 месяца назад +1

      Definitely. Except all they do is go up to the cap. How do they fit in Theo at 8-9?

    • @michaelbacon8698
      @michaelbacon8698 4 месяца назад +1

      @@safertobeanonymous2224 worry about that next offseason meanwhile the cap will have gone up probably another 5m from the expected 87.7m upcoming season.

    • @skullmanwizard
      @skullmanwizard 4 месяца назад +5

      @@safertobeanonymous2224 Vegas play with Salary Cap turned off.

    • @shinyuta
      @shinyuta 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@michaelbacon8698 I'm a vgk fan and shea was my coach in seattle, but they will very likely trade Shea especially if they want to keep marchy.

    • @RoamHockey
      @RoamHockey 3 месяца назад +1

      @@shinyuta I doubt they would let a stud 28 year old Theodore go because they want to get a 33 year old Marchessault signed..no matter how good of a year he had, there is a cliff coming soon for him at that age

  • @radone97
    @radone97 3 месяца назад +5

    Imagine believing youll get multiple pieces - nevermind multiple NHL roster players - for Marner.

    • @mikerichardson60
      @mikerichardson60 3 месяца назад

      Leafs media is just as delusional as their fans. Nowhere but Toronto does Marner have trade value. Do the Leafs think no one else pays attention to what type of player Marner is?

  • @Alex18NY
    @Alex18NY 4 месяца назад +13

    Basically, you need one quality piece back plus capspace and a future pick or prospect.

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад +3

      That's probably the most likely type of return if he is traded, there's value in the capspace especially if they can sign someone like Montour or Pesce.

  • @davidsine1222
    @davidsine1222 4 месяца назад +13

    Marner isn't waiving his NTC and leaves after next season and the leafs will get squat for him....can't wait

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад +4

      Yep.
      Why would a team give assets when they can get him for just money next year

    • @Terminatedd
      @Terminatedd 3 месяца назад

      It'd be nice if there was a rule that you couldn't give NTC's unless you signed the player 2mil under the market value.
      I think there'd be less those unmovable contracts.
      Calculating the "real market value" would be tough though.

    • @tonylloy327
      @tonylloy327 3 месяца назад +3

      That would actually be what Leafs Nation kinda deserves with the way they've turned on him.

  • @jacobc548
    @jacobc548 4 месяца назад +48

    Marner to Detroit. we have just the d man for you.. Justin Holl.

    • @RyanJones4444
      @RyanJones4444 4 месяца назад

      What about Moritz seider

    • @ryanwoods9608
      @ryanwoods9608 4 месяца назад +3

      With how Leaf fans talk about Marner it seems like they would do that trade too

    • @Workingman22
      @Workingman22 4 месяца назад +7

      ​@RyanJones4444 lol Sieder isn't going anywhere 😂 that's borderline delusional to even suggest Yzerman would move him.

    • @captsvpodcast
      @captsvpodcast 4 месяца назад +1

      🤣

    • @Allen-k6n1o
      @Allen-k6n1o 4 месяца назад

      🙄🙄🙄

  • @THIS---GUY
    @THIS---GUY 4 месяца назад +21

    why do i have membership privileges and icon...? wtf i better not get charged for this
    edit it says gift membership so thank you mystery gifter

    • @jred1817
      @jred1817 4 месяца назад

      Well now i want one

  • @tonykung8756
    @tonykung8756 4 месяца назад +8

    So when you're a seller on Marner, you're picking and choosing what players you want back from other teams and you want to save on cap space. I don't think that's how this works. A closer trade scenario is more like a Joe Thornton trade where Boston got a few smaller pieces back, and you're not getting full value back...

    • @markiv2942
      @markiv2942 4 месяца назад +1

      Let alone Marner can choose where he wants to go.

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад

      It’s not at all how it works
      Hilarious to watch the delusion

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад

      @@markiv2942
      And that?

  • @KenCalgary-ne3jp
    @KenCalgary-ne3jp 4 месяца назад +10

    Mitch Marner, the player Babcock sussed out years ago, the player who needed a non injury time away from hockey years ago at Christmas, the player who started pouting in the playoffs, one of the core 4 who go silent in the playoffs, realistically the Leafs want to dump this player badly are not in the drivers seat for any trade. Teams are not giving up their best players for Mitch.

    • @johnsummerhill8323
      @johnsummerhill8323 4 месяца назад

      Bunch of lies.

    • @hybaaaa
      @hybaaaa 4 месяца назад +1

      doesnt mitch have the most points in playoffs out of the core 4?

    • @johnsummerhill8323
      @johnsummerhill8323 4 месяца назад

      @@hybaaaa yup

    • @tonylloy327
      @tonylloy327 3 месяца назад +1

      It's all true that Marner is the least disappointing of the 'core four' in playoffs, and that many of the things that are rumored to have happened in the past are just that...RUMOURS. But nevertheless, all the noise in Leafs Nation about dumping him is not exactly putting Leafs' management in any kind of a decent position to be getting 'fair value' in return. If Marner refuses to waive his no movement clause and then walks away as a UFA next year, Leafs Nation only has itself to blame for turning on a guy who at many times has been the Leafs MVP. None of it makes any sense, except that Leafs fans refuse to stop worshiping Matthews, and they know they can't move Tavares, so Marner becomes the target by default. But their anger is focused in the wrong places, IMO.

    • @johnsummerhill8323
      @johnsummerhill8323 3 месяца назад

      @@tonylloy327 No team is going to make decisions on what media or fans are saying. They make decisions based on their own staff.

  • @safertobeanonymous2224
    @safertobeanonymous2224 4 месяца назад +5

    You are half right.
    It’ll be after July 1 not just for the bonus
    BUT
    Because then it can be a sign and trade/trade and extend which can be done then.

    • @ilfautdanser9121
      @ilfautdanser9121 4 месяца назад

      @@ronmurray7349 and if he gets seriously injured where he has to retire, he's just flushed $100 million down the toilet. he'll do a sign and trade. he already gets to pick and choose

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ronmurray7349guarantee that's not happening

  • @Mr._Br1ghts1de
    @Mr._Br1ghts1de 4 месяца назад +2

    I love hearing Steve casually swearing 😂

  • @billk516
    @billk516 4 месяца назад +12

    leafs fans are overvaluing Marner

    • @sals79
      @sals79 4 месяца назад

      a player who consistently gets around 100 points and plays in all situations...of course we are going to value marner high!

    • @creepyrobsta5509
      @creepyrobsta5509 4 месяца назад

      @@sals79 Despite the face he NEVER has gotten 100 points!

    • @sals79
      @sals79 4 месяца назад +1

      @@creepyrobsta5509
      sorry...99 points!! talk about nitpicking...jesus christ!!

    • @creepyrobsta5509
      @creepyrobsta5509 4 месяца назад

      @@sals79 It not a nitpick. Would you call a guy a continual 50 goal scorer who has never scored 50 goals? Mithc Marner is cloer to a 60 point scorer then he is a 90 point scorer as he hit 60 range 4 times but only the 90 range 3 times, and never a 100 points scorer!

    • @sals79
      @sals79 4 месяца назад

      @@creepyrobsta5509
      i said AROUND 100 points.

  • @THEGDB
    @THEGDB 3 месяца назад +4

    They keep missing the most obvious player to target , Matheson from Montreal, the production and cap hit would be perfect for the leafs , but they wouldn't want to pay the price , probably nies and a 1st

  • @Flannman91
    @Flannman91 4 месяца назад +21

    Preds are a sensible destination for the following reasons:
    1. Predators have plenty of cap space
    2. Toronto needs a goalie and the Preds could trade them Saros (who makes only $5m next year) as part of the package. Preds have Askarov coming up anyway
    3. Tennessee has no state income tax and players enjoy both low taxes and the nightlife aka preferred destination - Marner would likely waive ntc
    4. Predators need offense
    5. Nashville is in the Western conf
    It's a win for both organizations.

    • @2dfx
      @2dfx 4 месяца назад +2

      So if you're the Preds and you STILL have to play regular season games - who exactly is their starting goalie? Askarov is 21...you're not throwing him into the fire just because. You still need a full time NHL-calibre goalie.

    • @jakethesnake8842
      @jakethesnake8842 4 месяца назад

      I'll take Askarov + for Marner

    • @leaf16nut
      @leaf16nut 4 месяца назад

      @@2dfx Samsonov 🙃

    • @2dfx
      @2dfx 4 месяца назад

      @@leaf16nut solid free agent singing

    • @markiv2942
      @markiv2942 4 месяца назад

      6. NOPE. There's no win for Marner and it's HIM to decide. And that's what counts. He wants a team that can win Stanley Cup. Nashville will compete whether to get into playoffs or not.

  • @nesmegavanialink350
    @nesmegavanialink350 4 месяца назад +9

    Chicago won't trade for Mitch. They want to build through the draft for 3 or 4 years, no big splash right now.

    • @markiv2942
      @markiv2942 4 месяца назад

      Why on earth Mitch would go to Chicago?

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@markiv2942 did you forget the blackhawks drafted bedard?

  • @MDP96DESTRUCTIONGOD
    @MDP96DESTRUCTIONGOD 3 месяца назад +1

    Who has no trade clause on Leafs?
    Five players (Marner, Tavares, Rielly, Auston Matthews, William Nylander) have no-movement clauses. Another three (Calle Jarnkrok, David Kampf and Jake McCabe) have modified no-trade

  • @WW3_Soon
    @WW3_Soon 3 месяца назад +1

    A vast majority of NHL teams would love to have Mitch Marner on their team because he’s an elite playmaker, plays on the powerplay and penalty kill, is super exciting, will pack their arenas, etc. Yes, in the playoffs, he’s scared of being bodychecked, but some teams will still want him.
    GM Brad Treliving ought to get Marner to submit a list of teams he’s interested in being traded to and let there be a bidding war! The LA Kings would love to have him.

    • @davidmollenhauer7580
      @davidmollenhauer7580 3 месяца назад +1

      Why would a team sign a player who is afraid of playing in the playoffs?

  • @ryanh1892
    @ryanh1892 3 месяца назад

    Avs fan here: it sounds crazy, but if 'Rantanen for Marner' was starting point, what else would be thrown in for both teams to approve such a trade?

  • @markhealy3595
    @markhealy3595 3 месяца назад +1

    You're over valuing Marner.
    Think Monahan deal.... they might have to pay someone to take that contract.

  • @timbender4184
    @timbender4184 4 месяца назад +2

    Love to see him in Jersey, and I'm sure we have something to offer.

  • @glaframb
    @glaframb 4 месяца назад +2

    Leafs fans believe they will receive something good in exchange for Mitch Marner and Everybody else knows that nobody is interested in getting Marner Contract. A guy who is well known through the league as a Missing player in Action (MIA) when the playoff start.

    • @lordrayden3045
      @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад +1

      And after the year they don’t have to give anything up for him

  • @markdepaolis5271
    @markdepaolis5271 4 месяца назад +1

    So I know this will never happen, but a team that has a lot of futures(in terms of signed for 1+years) and good young dmen is buffalo. They also need goal scoring. It could also make sense for a player that enjoys playing close to home
    Unlikely it will happen that way. They also have something like 23mill in cap space

    • @MrFreeth26
      @MrFreeth26 4 месяца назад

      Ding ding ding we have a winner. This was my pick too a few weeks ago when the wheels first went into motion. Will be interesting to see how the saga plays out.

  • @maxv658
    @maxv658 3 месяца назад

    I am an Avs fan and I would not hate them going after Marner. I think it's a perfect situation for Marner. He doesn't need to be the guy, it won't be media hell and he will play in their top six with either MacKinnon or Raantanen.

  • @jordanwillnance
    @jordanwillnance 4 месяца назад +2

    Isn’t Theodore the same type of player as Rielly? Leafs need a RHD Shut down guy

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад +1

      Anyone who is a legitimate top 4 defenceman would be a welcome addition. They need someone who can take some pressure off of Rielly. He really hasn't had that level of a partner, or even someone who can play those minutes consistently. Pesce might be available as a UFA, he would be a nice addition but they need a major upgrade on the back end.

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      Comparing Rielly to Theodore is delusion at its peak

  • @Azgoon69
    @Azgoon69 4 месяца назад +1

    How about Washington ? They desperately need offense and get younger, I just don't know if they would be willing to trade Tom Wilson and TVR for him

    • @mikeb.2925
      @mikeb.2925 4 месяца назад +1

      Zero chance Washington trades Wilson especially since his brand new contract hasn't even started yet. I do think Washington is interested though considering Carbery was his coach and Sandin his teammate. Washington has a massive amount of salary cap space coming available after this upcoming season.

  • @jordanstapleton3180
    @jordanstapleton3180 4 месяца назад +12

    Wait and get him as a FA for free. If it is a trade GMs are going to take advantage of the situation and lowball Toronto.

    • @disinformationworld9378
      @disinformationworld9378 4 месяца назад +3

      Amazing how many people forget what Winnipeg got for Dubois from LA with one year left. Let’s stop the nonsense talk here.

    • @ilfautdanser9121
      @ilfautdanser9121 4 месяца назад

      if more than one meaningful team (to Marner) wants him, you needn't worry about lowballing

    • @dishlee18
      @dishlee18 4 месяца назад +1

      I doubt any team would trade for him without an extension being part of the deal

    • @jordanstapleton3180
      @jordanstapleton3180 4 месяца назад

      @@disinformationworld9378
      Yes, but we are talking about the Leafs, the biggest joke of a franchise in all of professional sports history.

    • @Leafsdude_
      @Leafsdude_ 3 месяца назад

      I think that's a good reason to think it's gotta be to Vegas for Theodore+. Anyone wanting Marner is probably going to want to negotiate with him first, to get him in on a new contract. Leafs can then ask to negotiate with Theodore in return.
      That said, personally, I still think all of this much too complicated to expect them to do anytime soon. If it happens, it'll be in August, not July 2. I wouldn't be surprised if Marner winds up just signing an extension with the Leafs.

  • @joelnoela
    @joelnoela 3 месяца назад

    This is why I continue to say Marner is going to win a cup before the Leafs after he is traded.

  • @safertobeanonymous2224
    @safertobeanonymous2224 4 месяца назад +1

    Chicago works if Jones at 75% straight up for Mitch. Gives leaf’s 3 mil of cap and jones will be better on a better team. Jones is over paid at 9.5 but at 7?

  • @RobertHarridge
    @RobertHarridge 4 месяца назад

    3 way deal: Marner goes to (insert team here), Maple Leafs get Erik Cernak from Tampa Bay, Tampa bay gets draft picks. Tampa needs room to keep Stamkos. Right now they don’t have the room, but moving Cernak makes sense, and Toronto needs a solid defenseman. He’s got 2 cups and came up through the Lightning system, worked with McDonagh, Sergachev, and Hedman, and coached by John Cooper. He’s also 26 years old, so he’s going to be good for a number of years. I think he’d be a good fit.

    • @sebastiand9483
      @sebastiand9483 4 месяца назад

      How does trading Cernak for Marner open up cap space?

  • @nickboyd6716
    @nickboyd6716 3 месяца назад

    I know Toronto fans will hate this and why would they deal with Ottawa, but would Chychrun + Batherson + Bostons 1st round pick for Marner make sense for Toronto?

  • @stephenellsworth964
    @stephenellsworth964 4 месяца назад

    Vegas also has to make a call on Marchessault and Stephenson. Both are UFAs on Canada Day.

  • @strictlyroots7343
    @strictlyroots7343 4 месяца назад +1

    You know how the Leafs make trades then later realize how bone-headed it was?

  • @johnathonmaldonado3565
    @johnathonmaldonado3565 4 месяца назад +1

    These guys have awful takes regularly. The only reason you trade a prime 100 pt scorer is because he disappears in the playoffs when it matters most. Why would a contender do that? 16 is not the missing piece for a contender.

  • @bijanravanbakhsh3530
    @bijanravanbakhsh3530 3 месяца назад

    my arm chair gm mock trade idea - 3 team trade...
    toronto receives - s.jones + k.johnson
    columbus receives - marner
    chicago receives - #4 overall.

  • @redguard191
    @redguard191 3 месяца назад

    The biggest issue with the Vegas trade is a simple fact. Marner for Theodore means Vegas is eating 5M. This says they are losing Theodore and Marner is supposed to replace Marchessault. Marner is an elite playmaker but he can't fit the goal scoring niche Marchessault is filling.
    I can see them moving Theodore but not for a Marner sized cap hit.

  • @VooDoo-b7h
    @VooDoo-b7h 3 месяца назад

    Anyone remember Mats and his NMC. Marner will say the same thing ‘FU I’m staying till the end of my NMC contract’

  • @alexhirsch1039
    @alexhirsch1039 3 месяца назад

    I think Toronto should look to Ottawa, Marner for Batherson and Chychurn or something like this. They get an extra depth winger and a top 4 D-man

  • @bmoney544
    @bmoney544 4 месяца назад +8

    Marner and Robertson for Theodore, Thompson and Roy

  • @kowgan09
    @kowgan09 4 месяца назад +1

    Trade with sabres for defence ?

    • @RoamHockey
      @RoamHockey 3 месяца назад

      a very big no thanks, our blueline is stacked and it makes zero sense to go get an overpaid Marner for just 1 year and give up a huge piece..he is not even worth giving future considerations for at that insane cap hit

    • @mikerichardson60
      @mikerichardson60 3 месяца назад

      No thanks we're trying to build for a playoff team. We don't need a malcontent who disappears in the post season.

  • @MrMrneil1
    @MrMrneil1 3 месяца назад

    wing Marner, center Petterson, Tkachuk have identical age, goals, assists, plus-minus, salary, just Tkachuk with much lower shooting %. All three would be top player/ scorer on half the teams in the League. Marner could feed center Miller and Boeser, Petterson (6'2, hardest shot) could center wing Nylander.

  • @asharpbflat7179
    @asharpbflat7179 3 месяца назад

    Trades are inherently always trades for contracts.
    Aside from the improvements a team needs on the ice, what all involved teams ALWAYS want are better contracts under their cap structure.
    So naturally, one-on-one, you would only trade:
    Bad for bad,
    good for good contracts.
    Of course there's no such rule, but if you're worse off contract wise after a trade, you'll at least want compensation within that trade, until it's fair again (draft picks, salary retained, etc).
    Sometimes when hearing trade ideas I find myself thinking that GM's can only ever slowly improve their overall contracts architecture.
    If they are smart and got the right expertise they might quickly improve their teams ON-ICE (short term), while still dealing with an overload of really really bad contracts long term that might become even more of an overload because these short term on-ice improvements cost them.
    As a Leafs fan I'm always afraid that that's exactly them. I might be totally wrong with that whole contracts theory and multiple bad contracts might be solved faster than I think. In that case I'd still like to know what experts think are good or bad contracts on the Leafs and why they think a specific bad contract is actually moveable.
    I wouldn't trade Marner until February. He won't bring much in return NOW (certainly no Theodore). February is when GM's are likely to overpay. Today the Leafs would rather have to pay compensation, or so it feels.

  • @nm3724
    @nm3724 4 месяца назад

    why would klingberg sign a 775,000 in toronto?

  • @CrusaderNCC
    @CrusaderNCC 4 месяца назад +3

    Leafs are not winning any marner trade. Thats assuming he will waive his no trade clause. Marner has huberdeau written all over him and the NHL teams know it.

    • @late3619
      @late3619 4 месяца назад +2

      LOL, wrong.

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад

      What are you basing this off of?

    • @ilfautdanser9121
      @ilfautdanser9121 4 месяца назад +1

      hardly. Marner is 3 years younger and has a longer history of scoring lots of points. also, Marner gets to choose where he goes, Huberdeau didn't. that matters. the value of Marner is that he makes other good/great players better

    • @sublimedhaze7792
      @sublimedhaze7792 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ilfautdanser9121 Marner deciding where he goes decreases his trade value for the Leafs😂

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      ​@@sublimedhaze7792not really tho like at all

  • @handconstructed
    @handconstructed 4 месяца назад +1

    03:51 There's gotta be a better way to say that

  • @dhennessey1970
    @dhennessey1970 3 месяца назад

    You guys have no clue. Marner has a no-trade clause. If they ask anyone to waive it will be JT.

  • @TheMrMrhobo
    @TheMrMrhobo 4 месяца назад +2

    Vancouver is having problems signing RFA Filip Hronek. Could a deal be made between those two teams?

    • @joechriste7052
      @joechriste7052 4 месяца назад

      Yes, please. I want Toronto to pay a mediocre defenseman 8 mil

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      ​@@joechriste7052he's one of the best right handed defensemen in the league
      ... are you OK?

    • @coltonnaslund
      @coltonnaslund 3 месяца назад

      ​@joechriste7052 he had 48 points without any PP1 time, which would put him number 2 on Toronto D for points and was a +33 which is better than any Toronto Maple Leaf. Leafs fans really are stuck only watching East games eh?

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 3 месяца назад

      @coltonnaslund I'm a leafs fan look at my first comment we ain't all like that lol I'm not just a leafs fan I'm a hockey fan I personally watch every game from every team

  • @markiv2942
    @markiv2942 4 месяца назад +12

    You need to all brace yourselves for the possibility that Mitch stays for another year. And no "he's going to play in fourth line and fans will hate him" won't cut as reason why he would be traded. If there isn't deal available to destination he wants, there's nothing Leafs can do and it will be just like before. It's CHILDISH to think you force player with no-trade clause to leave with example for 4th line demotion, it would mean that no player IN ENTIRE LEAGUE would like go to Leafs and you jeopardize relationship with all the players. Leafs and Dubas did the contract with him, so saying now to him "you must leave" is BEYOND STUPID. So Dangle is full of bs.

    • @johnsummerhill8323
      @johnsummerhill8323 4 месяца назад +2

      Finally, a guy with a brain on RUclips.

    • @zachhaist6426
      @zachhaist6426 4 месяца назад +1

      I dont understand how people don't realize this

    • @JTAPtv
      @JTAPtv 4 месяца назад +1

      I mean ya, but what should they do on the pod? Talk about how no one is ever gonna get traded and nothing will happen?

    • @JTAPtv
      @JTAPtv 4 месяца назад +1

      Also, dangle is full of "bs" for speculating on potential trades where a trade might happen? Get a grip my guy

    • @markiv2942
      @markiv2942 4 месяца назад

      @@JTAPtv Sure you can, just acknowledge that trades are fantasy by fans. Since Leafs don't decide where Mitch goes, Mitch decides where Mitch goes. It's really simple as that. So you need to build the trades based into where he would like to go.

  • @detailsdetails...9571
    @detailsdetails...9571 3 месяца назад +1

    Yeah lets trade a point a game guy when you don't score enough goals.
    Sounds like the Jay's management group.

  • @32riverrats
    @32riverrats 3 месяца назад

    Ok Here’s a “what about?”
    What about
    Carolina sends:
    Orlov Defmen
    Drury Center
    3rd 2025
    Toronto sends:
    Marner RW
    5th 2024

  • @havokan45
    @havokan45 4 месяца назад

    Utah looking to make a splash could maybe make a move they have the pieces to do it but do they

  • @lordrayden3045
    @lordrayden3045 3 месяца назад +2

    No one is giving the leafs anything for him
    If they want to move him, the leafs are going to have to attach a sweetener

  • @rb3158
    @rb3158 4 месяца назад +10

    Marner to Vegas for Petriangelo and Aiden Hill.

    • @ItsJared___
      @ItsJared___ 4 месяца назад

      I'm sure the leafs would love that lol

    • @BranDon-xm2pp
      @BranDon-xm2pp 4 месяца назад +3

      Terrible for the leafs. Pietrangelo is 34 and Hill isn’t good

    • @tonycaniggia
      @tonycaniggia 4 месяца назад

      @@BranDon-xm2pp so that's good then because Leafs need to lose

    • @Falcon3e
      @Falcon3e 4 месяца назад

      ​@BranDon-xm2pp What Hill is good in the regular season and great in the playoffs

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      Worst trade ive ever seen

  • @robb412
    @robb412 4 месяца назад +1

    NOBODY should care what value Marner brings to another team. He didn't bring it in Toronto despite multiple playoff attempts. Its too bad but the Leafs need to move on and get more of a balanced roster within the cap. Spread the scoring around, add more size/grit/intangibles. Period.

    • @markiv2942
      @markiv2942 4 месяца назад

      Sure, you can talk to his agent and lawyer plus the judge who looks the "no-trade" clause part and laughs at you.

  • @anothergolflesson
    @anothergolflesson 3 месяца назад

    Great discussion guys!

  • @RoamHockey
    @RoamHockey 3 месяца назад

    its incredible that Leafs nation does not realize that the entire value in moving Marner is what term he has left..nobody is giving up a ton for a 1 year rental 🙄

  • @stevenightfall6634
    @stevenightfall6634 3 месяца назад

    I would say that Dangle and Jesse lost their minds, but I really don't think there was anything there to begin with...

  • @marcusberggren9241
    @marcusberggren9241 4 месяца назад +1

    Aaron Ekblad would be a solid piece for Leafs. problem is florida don't really need a mitch marner.

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      That would never happen anyway

    • @marcusberggren9241
      @marcusberggren9241 4 месяца назад +1

      @@user-mt4ks4su3m never say never. He has not been at his best for most of the playoffs... Gustav forsling is the best defenseman in Florida, a guy picked up on waivers. Imagine that.

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      @marcusberggren9241 no the leafs would never trade marner for ekblad

  • @johnhoward8668
    @johnhoward8668 4 месяца назад +2

    How about Ottawa. Brady Tkachuk?

    • @jaykanou7331
      @jaykanou7331 4 месяца назад +4

      Why would Ottawa do this?

    • @johnhoward8668
      @johnhoward8668 4 месяца назад

      @@jaykanou7331 Because I’m a crazy Leaf fan. I don’t believe anyone in their right mind would do it. That said, why does Marner think he is worth so much money when you consider what Brady Tkachuk is making. But it is fun dreaming.

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад +1

      Tkachuk's career high in points is 83, Marner has put up 90+ three times and had 85 in 69 games this season. Yes they are different players, Tkachuk is younger, and Marner plays with better players including the best goalscorer in the league, but that's why Marner will ask for more and he'll probably get it, it just doesn't make sense for that to be with the Leafs.

    • @johnhoward8668
      @johnhoward8668 4 месяца назад

      @@alexleblanc5926 Very well said. Thanks.

  • @flannelfield5255
    @flannelfield5255 3 месяца назад

    there's only 2 possibilities they are st.louis for binnington or Nashville for saros...

  • @QuinnWalker247
    @QuinnWalker247 4 месяца назад +1

    Nashville???

  • @skeptic10
    @skeptic10 3 месяца назад

    Crazy talk. Just resign him. He'll probably want around 15M/y but being a team guy, he'd settle for team friendly discount 12,5M / 8 years.

  • @alexrompen805
    @alexrompen805 3 месяца назад

    I dont think it HAS to be a contender he will go to, Mitch wants to be THE guy and be paid as such, so I can see him being willing to go to a up and coming team where he can be that and get paid as such.

  • @johntitorii6676
    @johntitorii6676 3 месяца назад

    Video too short, we have 1000s of ideas

  • @aaronm5535
    @aaronm5535 3 месяца назад +1

    Note from Colorado = no thanks.

  • @FadaPita
    @FadaPita 4 месяца назад +1

    Keller and Durzi for Marner

  • @grantstewart5236
    @grantstewart5236 4 месяца назад +2

    Why trade Marner if he is elite?

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад +1

      He's going to want more money and the Leafs need to allocate that money more effectively. They have holes to fill and moving on from Marner would make those necessary changes easier.

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад +1

      Did you really just say that like Gretzky wasn't traded in his career?

  • @manbirb9216
    @manbirb9216 4 месяца назад

    its never been the same since he got that contract

  • @andrewbugler2913
    @andrewbugler2913 4 месяца назад +6

    Buchnevich and Parayko for Marner and Liljegren. Book it

    • @safertobeanonymous2224
      @safertobeanonymous2224 4 месяца назад +1

      If torotnot threw in a few 1rst round picks maybe.
      Pareko is a top pairing D under contract.
      Buchneyvich for Marner heads up maybe as Toronto gets cap and a player that fits need better.

    • @andrewbugler2913
      @andrewbugler2913 4 месяца назад +6

      @@safertobeanonymous2224 Parayko is a top 4 Dman on the wrong side of 30 with like 7 years left at 6.5, and back issues.
      This is coming from a blues fan, I love him, but I just don’t think he fits their window for real.

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад

      That's a proposal I've seen, and one I like. I think it fits multiple needs for the Leafs. Salary change is pretty even for next year so it doesn't really help with capspace, but would give them an upgrade on defence and a solid forward to replace Marner and someone who plays a different style of game.
      How much has Buchnevich played as a centre? Would give them some nice depth down the middle, even as a winger I think it could be a really nice fit.

    • @andrewbugler2913
      @andrewbugler2913 4 месяца назад

      @@alexleblanc5926
      He’s been experimented as C for short periods of time over the past two years. It hasn’t gone terribly well, or at least not well enough to dislodge Schenn as 2C.

    • @andrewbugler2913
      @andrewbugler2913 4 месяца назад

      @@alexleblanc5926 he’s experimented at center for parts of this and last year. It’s gone poorly enough that he hasn’t displaced Schenn as our 2C, so idk that it’d be an upgrade.

  • @neiltobey1746
    @neiltobey1746 4 месяца назад

    I am trying to will this into existence, but i want a nashville saros for marner swap

  • @davidmollenhauer7580
    @davidmollenhauer7580 3 месяца назад

    Marner has not waived his no-movement clause. Did i miss something?
    Colorado would never trade for Marner…as producer Drew well knows.

  • @madhavr.8431
    @madhavr.8431 4 месяца назад +3

    IF Marner waives, why would he waive to go to a non playoff team like Utah? He’ll probably give you a list of 5-8 teams to work with.
    And playoff teams know that Marner doesn’t perform in the playoffs…

    • @connorkenney6938
      @connorkenney6938 4 месяца назад

      Utah has the cap space and they will be an amazing team in the next year or two.

    • @ilfautdanser9121
      @ilfautdanser9121 4 месяца назад

      @@connorkenney6938 like Ottawa and New Jersey?

  • @splitfinger7719
    @splitfinger7719 4 месяца назад +2

    Too bad the only time Mitch has bite to his game is when it’s time to negotiate a contact

    • @Lemontheparakeet
      @Lemontheparakeet 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, a steady 90 point guy who is an above average playmaker who kills penalties 🙄

    • @johnsummerhill8323
      @johnsummerhill8323 4 месяца назад

      Hatred causes brains to malfunction.

    • @leaf16nut
      @leaf16nut 4 месяца назад

      @@Lemontheparakeet Season, ooooooo..

    • @tonycaniggia
      @tonycaniggia 4 месяца назад

      @@Lemontheparakeet looking at the toronto guys he's the last one of the "big 4" I'd take

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      ​@@leaf16nutyou probably can't even skate ooooooo

  • @JT-gi8rx
    @JT-gi8rx 3 месяца назад

    Do they need a better goalie? Could consider a trade to Carolina for Kochetkov. Or the isles for Varlamov, but guessing Marner doesn’t want to go to a non-contender. Get Carolina to throw in another good player and a pick. Then go after some cheap ufa’s. Pat Kane had signed a super cheap deal with Detroit last year, and played excellent. Offer him a 2 year deal for $3.5 mill per, he would take it. Toffoli and or Monahan will sign cheaper contracts. Sign guys like this with the freed up cap space from Marner.

  • @kebecois71
    @kebecois71 3 месяца назад

    Andersen, Xhekaj and 3nd for marner

  • @Workingman22
    @Workingman22 4 месяца назад +6

    I'm gonna laugh if Marner doesn't go anywhere and is still a Leaf. 😂

    • @johnsummerhill8323
      @johnsummerhill8323 4 месяца назад +1

      Start laughing.

    • @user-mt4ks4su3m
      @user-mt4ks4su3m 4 месяца назад

      Not happening. Keep paying more attention to the leafs then your favorite team tho that's cute

    • @davidsine1222
      @davidsine1222 4 месяца назад +1

      He isn't going anywhere...he is going to put the screws to the leafs

  • @brianlowe3831
    @brianlowe3831 3 месяца назад

    I know it would never happen. Im not dilusional. I get it haha. But man. I would love to see a line of marner Nazar and Bedard

  • @nickelliott1174
    @nickelliott1174 26 дней назад

    This aged like milk! Hahahahahaha

  • @stephanelesieur6322
    @stephanelesieur6322 3 месяца назад

    Marner for San Jose 1 st pick done

  • @meshworkj
    @meshworkj 4 месяца назад +2

    GOALIE!!!

  • @stephenkocot4119
    @stephenkocot4119 3 месяца назад

    Carolina trades Necas for Mariner.

  • @daltonm.strongman2397
    @daltonm.strongman2397 3 месяца назад

    Vegas get two cheap options because no Vegas state tax after this Hague and Theodore trade
    Pietrangelo Hanifin
    Mcnabb. Schenn
    White Cloud Gudas

  • @ritahoman5364
    @ritahoman5364 3 месяца назад

    Why would Vegas want a player who gets lost in the playoffs and wants a boatload of money he doesn't earn. Besides, we're not paying him more than Jack or Mark. Besides, you don't want his contract either, why should another team want to gamble by putting all in on a reg season player

  • @krakenspectacor
    @krakenspectacor 4 месяца назад

    What about Seattle? /adam continues to talk over everyone

  • @86daytonaz
    @86daytonaz 4 месяца назад

    Your pod cast as well as the “The Tip In” keep it real about the Leafs!.

  • @acalisal
    @acalisal 3 месяца назад

    If he goes anywhere, which I doubt he will because why would he take a huge risk on a contract year, it will be to a team that is trying to make the playoffs. He doesn’t do well in the playoffs. He is a regular season superstar which can be great. A team trying to make a deep run is not going to sink 11 mill into a playoff ghost.

  • @FoodFollow
    @FoodFollow 4 месяца назад

    Trade with a team that has cap space for a young player/s and picks. Use the cap space to get what you need now and at the trade deadline. Bring in Montour, Pesce and keep Lybushkin instead of always wasting your picks on him!

  • @KalpeshPatel-zq4wu
    @KalpeshPatel-zq4wu 3 месяца назад

    Saros and schenn for marner

  • @robertamaral907
    @robertamaral907 4 месяца назад

    Can't domi play center?

    • @alexleblanc5926
      @alexleblanc5926 4 месяца назад

      He can and looked really good there at points in the playoffs, but if they do move on from Marner he's probably their best playmaker. Keefe was playing him on the wing with Matthews quite a bit, guess we'll see how Berube sees it.

  • @paoloricci4569
    @paoloricci4569 3 месяца назад

    They should gutbthe defence before anything.
    Other than McCabe, everyone can go,
    Sign 2 of montour, pesce, Dillon ,demelo
    Rielly Robertson to Nashville for josi

  • @joeynova9896
    @joeynova9896 4 месяца назад

    How about Mitch Marner to Vancouver?

  • @ericcus2487
    @ericcus2487 3 месяца назад

    How delusional no one is taking marner straight up for 10mill

  • @apaapsson4465
    @apaapsson4465 4 месяца назад

    Since we are already doing stupid mock trades, and Kyle Dubas LOOOOOOOOOOVES his guys...
    Marner for EK65, straight up one for one.

  • @felixnuc245
    @felixnuc245 3 месяца назад

    new jersey is a team that could use marner and they have cap space and they are 1 or 2 pieces away from a playoff run. also the leafs could use 1 or 2 defencemen on nj

  • @DaaaaaBears
    @DaaaaaBears 4 месяца назад

    Marner for Josh doan+, help out Utah and the leafs need the cap space and more north south players like knies for Berube

  • @mattbcameron
    @mattbcameron 3 месяца назад

    Honestly wish Bruins could afford him.

  • @stolendrones
    @stolendrones 4 месяца назад +1

    You can have ONE defenseman.
    Hague stays in Vegas!!!!

  • @ratedRblazin420
    @ratedRblazin420 3 месяца назад

    You guys aren't getting what you think you are for Marner