The Mike Babcock Story Keeps Getting Worse | SDP
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- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the the recent exposé done on Mike Babcock and how the story surrounding him keeps getting worse.
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The more I hear about Babcock, the more respect I have for Mike Commodore. Commodore was the first guy to to headline Babcock's BS.
Well, he has the word Cock in his name
Absolutely love listening to Mike tell it like it is regarding Babcock.
"I think this is an article you should read"
doesn't link the article
‘No one is spared’: Tracing Mike Babcock’s imperious NHL coaching career, the name of the article, its on NY times athletic
Thx
@@Cuhhsinthanx bub. You’re out here doing the lords work
Another reason why Shanahan should be fired: He knew exactly who and what Babcock was and he still hired him. I'm all about a coach being a hard ass. But being a complete psychopath is not a quality trait you look for in a coach.
The Leafs went from a complete psycho to a nice guy in Keefe who let the stars walk all over him and held zero accountability.
Only thing they have in common is being outcoached in the playoffs and never making adjustments in big games.
Entire Matthews era wasted like that.
@@stevendchu I don’t really think that Keefe was outcoached in the playoffs. He had to go because the culture needed to change, but it wasn’t his fault that the team does not have a top-tier goaltender or a decent defense core.
100% right. Shanahan is every bit as huge a scumbag as Babcock.
Well said.
A psychopath? Really?
A low end, toxic personality, desperate to control everything within his sight. This is the type of person, who, if they're in a leadership position, you expose them.
At mlse if a truck was coming through the parking garage downstairs to make delivery and heaven behold Mike babcock was coming in at the sametime, you look up he's put of his car in your face yelling and screaming lol. How do I know? Cuz I use to work at mlse
I don't know what's going on with him or he just getting old and going in some sort of mental phase, but still you can't respect the guy, he is in Triple Gold Club and Stanley Cup champion
@@Rezisorss nothing wrong with him its the way he is. Hes a cruel person
He's the Donald Trump of hockey coaches lmao
@@brandonconnelly6562 So he's not a phaggot? Babs just got cooler
It's kind of amazing some ex players haven't put the boots to babcock. There are some big, dangerous guys he's messed with over the years.
Like most bullies, he has a sixth sense as to who he can bully and get away with--but I agree, how Mike Commodore didnt pound the hell out of Babs is beyond me.....
Unless you were at the very end of your career, there was no way anyone was risking getting blackballed from the NHL for whooping their coach.
That being said, with a reputation like Babcock’s, who’s to say that whooping his ass wouldn’t endear you to a lot of franchises knowing what they probably know of Babcock. And if your reasoning for doing it was “I’m protecting EVERY player in this room from his abusive tactics”, you could probably get rewarded for it. It’s whether you wanna take that chance. There’s definitely a hierarchy in pro sports that the head coach is not to be challenged. There’s exceptions to that rule. Babcock was one of those exceptions
@@arthurjamesaltmann729it’s never too late! Hopefully Commie sees him at a charity golf tourney and tunes him up. Not that Bab’s would do anything for charity…
its probably all lies.
"messed with" cool story bro
Boy am I glad that the Blue Jackets nipped this in the bud quickly, but it should have never happened in the first place. Some people are irredeemable (professionally).
Don't give them too much credit. They were reactive after Spittin' Chiclets broke the story. They still played the PR game initially denying everything until the NHLPA went in and confirmed everything and they basically had no choice. They also hired the guy lol
If they stayed with Babs maybe they would have actually had a half decent season.
The Jackets hired another d-bag coach to replace Babs. Total joke of a franchise.
@@brianshaughnessy4020damn I’m no. Pascale Vincent fan but I’ve never considered him a d bag lmfao
@@MaryJane-hi7tu”hey what if we won a few more games but ruined the development of our younger players and tanked any sense of camaraderie the team has left?”
Question is how many creeps like this exist in minor hockey, Babcock started this crap a long time ago and everyone just let him get away with it ruining one player after another. The stories are numerous!!!
Babcock didn't start it, he learned it from Scotty Bowman who was just as despised by his players
@@Dylligraphylmao wtf....come back to reality buddy......he's the most loved coach of all time....idiot
The realty is this is how it was under old school hockey. In the sixties, Seeventies, Eighties and Nineties coach had full reign to treeat players anyway they wanted and there was no reprecussions to the coach.
@@Dylligraphy Scotty: He holds the record for most wins in league history, with 1,244 wins in the regular season and 223 in the Stanley Cup playoffs, and his 14 Stanley Cup wins ranks second most of all time for any player, coach or executive. LMAO
Excuses excuses
You guys should talk to my buddy Ronald Grimard about the crap Babcock was pulling at U of C. And actually, Ron was a trend setter for not putting up with his garage
Was that after he got fired from Toronto? Ur buddy should contact a sports reporter.. get all these stories out.
I wonder why UofL does not have a hockey program anymore, where babcock got a championship in the 80’s I believe. They don’t talk about him in their graduation speeches anymore I bet
A guy who doesn't have remorse of past actions and doesn't treat people with decency or respect shouldn't be a head coach
shouldnt have any job period
@@JD-hm2wo should be in jail
I'm a Red Wings fan, so I have to ask how you didn't mention the Mike Modano thing, or the Johan Franzen bullying. Like literally two fantastic hockey players that he just utterly bullied. I also don't think the guy is actually a good coach. How the eff did he only get one cup with that Detroit time in the late 2000's? They had like 5 years where they should have.
They have mentioned those in the past in a few episodes I think these are new ones outside of the mitch thing
I'd assume the big reason for this is that the Franzen and Modano incidents were both referenced in the article, and the guys mention during the segment that they're trying to minimize how much they 'spoil' so that the authors can still benefit from the readers. They discuss basically everything in the article except the Red Wings portion of Bab's career - if they brought those two up they'd have summarized the entire article and left little reason for listeners to read it themselves.
@@kie306my right nut could have coached at least one of those 2000s red wings teams to a cup
@@TBTasher yeah we really talked him up when he didn't deserve it looking back guess it was the luck of getting to coach team Canada while it was dominant
@kie306 that's a fair point, I forgot they've mentioned it before
Babcock obviously prioritizes power/control first. Coaching/winning comes second.
Or let Marner and Reilly do whatever they like and lose for 8 straight years in the first round. Oh but they are so close, lol. Don’t you think Maurice had control over his team?
@@ginor8416 tough coaching is fine and needed. Babcock's issues obviously weren't that surface level.
Babs is a class A A Hole, no question. But he could see that his young team was not tough enough and disciplined to propel them to a cup which was his objective. Berube will soon see how soft the Leafs are and have the players sign his walking papers
If at alll!!
@@marsupialsr tough coaching is one thing but betraying the players' confidence and exposing young players in the way that he did seems to me like he's lacking certain skills.
At this point, the only shocking thing about Mike Babcock that could possibly come out now is that if he has a collection of creepy porcelain dolls he kisses on the lips before he goes to sleep.
I personally would love to know what a guy like Paul Kariya thought of Babs, given that Paul was the Mighty Ducks best player outside of Giguere in 2003.
Knowing Babcock, I highly doubt Paul had much choice in getting back on the ice in the finals after Stevens concussed him.
Even a sociopath can be good at something.
The problem is, the stench follows them wherever they go..
He'd be a better coach if he weren't a sociopath. Being a total POS is a terrible way to get people to perform for you.
@@humanbeing2420
He's more of psychopath than a sociopath. Babcock seems to have all his stuff planned out. Like what he he did with Commodore.
The Wings won the cup despite Babcock's efforts.
Yea didn’t he cause holmstrom or kronwal to have a full on mental breakdown on the bench one time?
Hockey Culture at its finest. Hockey keeps recycling the same GMs and Coaches over and over. The Devils really looked at the leafs playoff record with Keefe and said "this is our guy" lol
this needs more attention. Babcock isn't something unique. Hockey culture literally kills people. The whole trying to injure people, fighting, headshots, now that we know CTE happens from this and leads to suicides and addiction. Pathetic.
doesn't matter what coach you put on that team. the players themselves don't have it
@FempireAudios Vegas is a significantly better team than what the Sabres were. Leafs clearly have a good team because they make playoffs every season easily. They don’t have the extra gear to get them over the top. Their systems don’t change from season to playoffs.
Leafs needed more depth defensively. It's not Keefe faults. A heavy shot from the point is needed badly and we only have one offensive defenseman. You can't skate through a bunch of players in the playoffs. The defense gets that much tighter. Counter that with heavy shots from the outside and hunt for rebounds. We change this simple thing and I guarantee you we're making it past the second round and contending regularly.
Exactly 👍🏻
Also the other problem is there are alot of old heads who dont see issues with what Babcock has done.
You think its a coincidence that all of a sudden Edmonton learned how to play playoff hockey.... hum... from a rookie coach... hum... 😮
Rookie coaches have frequently won the Cup !
What pisses me is the fact that Mr. Babcock is still chewing with his own teeth.
Instead of chewing with Dentures?
lmao tough guy.
The scar on his right cheek bone suggests he wasn't anywhere as tough as he thought.
Why? You seem unhinged
Hang on a second, we have already established Babsy may have mental health and the first thing you are suggesting is for someone loosen his jaw for’em??
Lookit when someone has mental health concerns leave their teeth alone, mans gotta eat and get chicks
Unfortunately, the league saw the same kind of behavior from Scotty Bowman and Mike Keenan. You would be hard pressed to get a favorable word on either of these psychopaths from their players.
Fedorov praised Bowman in his hall of fame induction speech. It was well known around Detroit that they didn’t get along during Fedorovs time there but when he left and played elsewhere and coached, he understood his coaching philosophy.
And they all have Stanley Cups lol
Mike Keenan definitely has similarities to Babcock, but I've never heard stories like that about Scotty Bowman. Quite to the contrary actually. He was a hard coach, but he was not a manipulative, cruel person like the other two. Ken Dryden, for example, wrote a biography about Scotty Bowman which was favourable to him overall.
Bowman was REALLY hard on his players but not a complete manipulative whackjob like Keenan.
Years ago I have had bosses like him
Me too. Makes every shift unbearable
So did I until he tried to belittle me in front of coworkers and customers. Didn't go as planned. I went up one side of him, then down the other.
Two months later, he was transferred out
Isn't that right, tony commisso?😂
@@dh12. Things that only happened in your dreams
@@disgoyknows88 lol, you're just jealous because you don't have the balls to stand up for yourself.
As a union steward for forty years,on the ramp at midway airport in Chicago ,in 46 years,I had 3 bosses who thought they were Hitler,disgusting the way,they treated people!
Two things: 1.) I read the article, and it paints a picture of a guy who doesn't know how to manage people and is all ego; and 2.) as a Bruins' fan, I can't believe Montgomery would value Babcock's opinion - calls Monty's judgement into question, imho
Honestly between this, monty not switching to swayman sooner in the first round vs florida, and then almost blowing a three-one series lead to toronto, i question Montgomery's ability to coach
Had a boss almost exactly like him. They should NEVER be in a position of power. They don't know what it means to be a leader or lead people.
R u being honest?
No mention of Shanahan playing for and hiring him.
That Peter Holland story is infuriating. I'm surprised Babcock never joined Jimmy Hoffa with the fishes the way he treats people.
Who cares ! Peter Holland was a super bum....
@@user-ku2bf1ul1d you are as well.
@@user-ku2bf1ul1d that doesn't excuse how Babcock treated him.
I cannot believe Boone Jenner had to basically be thrown under the bus and do that press conference.
Well this is sports we are talking about. These people can do basicly ANYTHING and still have reverence and influence. As long as you win, brainless and stupid sport fans love you.
I mean in every segment of society and media there's people who are at the top of their respective fields. They often are horrible people outside of their specialty. If you are a coach it's OK to look up to him as a coach while acknowledging he's a horrible guy etc. So many great musicians are bad people, it's OK to listen to their stuff and enjoy it irrespective of who made it. I agree though a lot of people aren't making a conscious decision of respect someone's work but not to revere them as people.
Let’s look at Mitch Marners more recent trauma. Remember at the end of the 2022 season, he and his wife(fiance at the time) were held at gun point. Mitch had his car stolen. Now last year in October the accused were acquitted of the charges. This can explain the reason for his slow start to the season, and his overall demeanor.
Mitch Marner now has security with him everywhere he goes.
Perhaps this could give him a reason to be traded.
Hope he wins a Cup somewhere
50 pts in 57 playoff games is not bad esp considering they usually play strong defensive teams in the Atlantic and Mitch also kills penalties and was a Selke nominee at one point
Nah he’s soft
@@DaaaaaBears Sounds like you have mush brain.
The worst part too is how he didn't learn his lesson... it's astonishing to me how he went to CBJ just to repeat previous bad behaviours. One of the main things we were coached as kids (shoutout Adam for being on teams with me) was accountability. Babs does NOT practice what he preaches, which is one of the absolute worst traits of a leader. The term "narcissist" may not do it justice in his case due to the added borderline-malice he brings to the table with zero guilt.
Babcock thinks he is smarter than Scotty Bowman. He thinks he is a better coach than Bowman. That is how arrogant he is. Babcock is just another Mike Keenan.
I'm a Bruins fan and I wish Marner would come here; we could give you Ullmark!
Not for that money.
But what about that adorable post-game celebration?
And Leafs trades with Boston involving goaltenders always seem to benefit Boston. Same with Vancouver I think.
No thank you.
I've had this idea for a while now is it really that unreasonable
@@amgm4824 Did you not see the pylon on Pastrnak's series winning goal? Do you want to see that level of dedication on the B's team? You can't be a Bruin's fan.
I think the Leafs would have been better off drafting Mikko Rantanen, but that's just my opinion. His 6'4 inch frame is better suited for the postseason's physical play. I would also add that Boston was willing to give all 3 of their 1st round picks to Carolina for a chance to draft Hanafin at 5th, so had the Leafs moved down for the 3 picks, they could have had Matthew Barzal, Kyle Conor, and Tomas Chabot. The Barzal pick would have negated overpaying Tavares as a 2nd line center, and Conor and Chabot would have added much needed depth.
The Mr dressup shirt is fire!
A grown man wearing a children's t-shirt. So classy and mature.
Not discounting the scummy thing Babs did to a young Mitch, but I enjoy the irony that the two guys he named won cups on their first team after the leafs. Because of course they did
But as time evolved so does human behaviors and how you coach and treat people ...
No one is saying coddle players but geezus even those coaches have some respect empathy understanding of time and situation that babs didn't give a rats behind about
And there's the different those coaches would've coached hard but wouldn't went to the length babs went to
@@waltermitchell768 Keefe and Dubas absolutely coddled the Leafs though, especially the core 4. There has to be a happy medium between them and Babcock, someone like Rick Tocchet seems respectful while also holding his guys accountable when they're not good. Hopefully Berube is like that for the Leafs.
@Dylligraphy there is no happy medium when it comes to how Babcock treated player in his entire career...
Times change
@@Dylligraphy Babcock didn’t hold people accountable, he was just an asshole. Accountability and scumbag are two different things. You want a hard nosed coach? Torts, Berube, Tochs as you mentioned - Babcock was not hard nosed - all accounts suggest he shied away from conflict and just iced guys out - that’s not accountability, that’s being an asshole.
The way he treated Johan Franzen as well was insane. Such an overrated coach
When i learned that he sat Modano so he didnt get his 1500th game, i lost all respect for him. People keep pointing to him and the olympic medals. Those teams were so stacked, anyone could have been behind the bench and won.
In a game that meant absolutely nothing for the Red Wings, win or lose. Grade A Ahole.
Lol yeah its one of the least inportant coaching roles in hockey history. When your 3 goalies on the roster are brodeur, Fleury,and luongo your coaching decisions can be reduced to a series of coin tosses lol.
Right but the teams were stacked in '98 and '06 too and they didn't win. So technically Mike won Canada its only back to back gold medals, not to mention 2010 was won by 1 goal in overtime..
@@SugarJRay we're definitely exaggerating, it's still the Olympics. I'm not saying a stacked team is guaranteed to win, I'm just saying the coach has to get out of their way more than anything. If you win an Olympic gold with an underdog squad I'd understand the accolades
Not a hockey comment but...Mr. Dress up shirt!!!! Where does one find one!
I was wondering the same thing
if this guy gets another sniff at coaching it'll just show that the system tolerates bullying and playing head games with players like he does, just a terrible person.
Lol the world needs more of babs style. The man up mentality is fading fast. There’s a reason the leafs play how they do. The mob one lol
@@The_world_at_largelol. It’s funny how people are still after this guy. It shows how we as a society is at. It’s very concerning. Babcock was a part of this cancel culture we’re seeing the last 10 years.
@@The_world_at_largealso this coming from a Wings fan… Any stories you hear about Babcock.. especially ones from Detroit, they’re mostly conjecture and only about 25% of the real story. Stories about him and Franzen or Mike commodore. Chris Chelios is another player who had this weird hard on for Mike Babcock lol. It’s quite funny
@@Nall412you’re some kind on insider having access to info we arent privy to?
@@CaptainFordo21I have more knowledge than you I can tell you that. What I see here and from you is nothing but emotional and handicapped thinking.
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No link to article is description? Nice lol
Too bad a player didn't go all Latrell Spreewell on Babcock
It's not just Mike Babcock, it's all coaches. Some may sugar coat the message but at the end of the day if you don't add to their image of winning you'll be disposed of. The only way a player can trust a coach is if his interests are aligned with the coach's plan.
these femboys today thinks coaches should be their best friends or love daddies.... its a job and mens like Torts or Babcock enjoy pointing out the weakest links,as it should.
If anyone thinks that great coaches are liked by their players you are living in some fantasy land/feelings matter dream world. They pull crap to both motivate players and also exercise their control over them. One of the best ever, Scotty Bowman, was very disliked by many of the Canadiens players. Professional sports is different from EVERY OTHER profession where your boss is making a fraction of what his underlings are making. In their mind I’m sure they ‘need’ to pull control stunts to keep that authority in check. Babcock clearly took things to the extreme but he was also successful…why is it a shock to these guys that the ‘cabal’ of coaches still talk with him? The way these guys are talking about these players, they’re acting like their children…get a grip boys…this is a big boy league, people are not always going to be nice to these men. And if they’re coddled, well you can mostly end up with teams like the perpetually underperforming Leafs…
Family friend is close to a legendary coach. This legend told him the story about Babs telling the legend to his face, that he was lucky that he always had good teams in front of him. Aside from the utter lack of respect to a legend who was Bab's elder, the 'projection' of the comment is off the charts.
Again, the few people who still stick up for Babcock and who call the players today soft or whatever, I feel like they'd be uncomfortable handing their phone to him. I don't think they'd like being randomly grilled every day. It doesn't matter your beliefs, politics, etc. A lot of players hate this guy, and rightfully so.
I’d definitely feel uncomfortable but I’d probably say hey can we not do this I have nudes of my girlfriend on here… if he wasn’t cool with that I’d just be like sorry man, I can’t out of respect to her. Then whatever happens happens lol don’t cry about it
@@The_world_at_largethe whole thing was grossly exaggerated… regarding the phone thing that happened in Columbus and the thing that happened in Toronto back in 2019.
Imagine a bunch of ex NHL players from a podcast getting you fired? By fabricating and misrepresenting the truth? and Mike Commodore , who Babcock use to coach a 100 years ago, a guy who is middle aged going after a Babcock… a 60 year old man.. calling him a bully and a pedo? lol. The people who don’t see this for what it is, are a part of this coddled and virtuous mentality we see today.
@@The_world_at_largeIt’s funny. How a couple of players that Babcock has coached through his career out of 100s of players can absolutely smear you to the point where it destroys your livelihood. Babcock got his money. I hope he enjoys the rest of his life. I don’t know why he’d ever want to come back to a joke of a league the NHL has become and its players
@@The_world_at_largepeople have this weird thing when it comes to coaches and especially with the emergence of social media.. the game has also changed quite a bit in the last few years. The players have a lot more pull and influence, you could say. But that’s a whole other thing we can get into lol. Specifically with fans we see now, the younger generation.. you’re going to see a lot of this behavior towards coaches. We live in a time where coddling and nerfing everything and everyone around us is the norm. The coach has one job and one job only. That is to win hockey games nothing more or less. Coach ain’t there to be friends with players. Now there’s coaches that have changed their philosophy in order to still be relevant in this day and age in the game. John Torts is one of them. So I gotta give him so e credit for sure.
@@Nall412we get it, you revere a pos.
And the University of Saskatchewan just *HIRED THIS GUY?!?*
German Titov? There’s a blast from the past
Mike Babcock aka vince mcmahon
I laughed 😂😂😂😂
He hasn't defecated on anyone.... yet
The difference is that the Wrestlers loved Vince like a father figure. Babs players all hate his Guts.
A once coveted individual in sports is tired of carrying the weight and fear of being extorted having to check phones
Law enforcement on both sides of the border have full details
It's disgusting and the disgrace to the city to the sport to the fans and to family
Absolutely shameful
Wasn't there something about how Babcock didn't want to pick Marner. He had someone else in mind for the 4th overall.
Yes he wanted Hanifin or Provorov.
@@stevendchu he wanted a hockey player,not a skating ballerina and boy was he right about that soft kid.
Who doesn't get a little misty-eyed every now and then thinking about those soap commercials Mike Babcock did for Dove...
Show's up??? Except for the playoffs!!!
50 pts in 57 games against defensively strong teams usually from the Atlantic Division is not bad especially as he’s a good two-way player and penalty killer. If Leaf’s drive him out of town he’ll win a Cup elsewhere like Kessel, Bozak, and Kadri
Imagine how many potential NHLers and staffers aren't because of Babcock being a terrible coach
Very strange about McClellan--My spidey sense said there was something I didn't like about him, but i didn;t know why----now I know the answer--He's got Babcock stink on him....
That was a weird edit at the end.
Anyone have the link to the article?
Katie Strang has been an excellent hockey journalist for a long time. Great work by her and Robson.
Robert Sutton wrote an excellent workplace book titled The No Asshole Rule. Reads like something Babcock needs under his pillow.
Whenever my friend wants to change music or whatever he asks if he can babcock my phone
In this day of free agency, can you have guys like Babcock? You gonna sign with a Babcock coached team?
I just ran into Mike Babcock in San Jose at the Sharks practice facility last Thursday...
my OCD kicks in when I see the two white dots in the blue slash over Adam's left shoulder on the wall.... It's very distracting ... 😮
The Mitch Marner story is not the 'biggest story' when it comes to Babcock. I have no clue about Babcock's coaching prowess, but negative comments from Comrie, Franzen, and Modano likely are correct. Many others star players dealt with Babcock in other ways. The teams that Detriot had were truly made up by legendary players. Only Colorado Avalanche, Pittsburgh, and Edmonton even comes close or exceeds.
No room for this behaviour in the modern world.
“The modern world” lol
Mitch is a fantastic player on both sides of the puck, but he hasn't shown the "it" factor in the playoffs that guys like Verhaghe or Bennet have. But... the only reason they should move him is if it makes the team better in other areas of need. However, this is all talk for nothing as I fully expect Mitch to say F U, and not waive his rights to any deal. So this is all likely leading to a big offseason next year, when John's contract is up.
If Mitch sez "FU", then he can only negotiate a 7 year deal when his contract is up, instead of an 8 year deal. No way he's giving up an opportunity to get an 8 year deal at this point in his career.
Mitch Marner's saga has a lot of parallels with the way Leafs (mis)treated Dave Keon, coincidentally a player with a very similar profile.
Dangle looking to be Marner's agent god damn
Can you link the article?
i think trading marner will be a massive mistake, id rather try to move tavares
Dude, Peter Holland was solid while in Toronto too! He was playing much further up in the lineup than he probably should have, and stepped up when asked. Not the most offensive guy, but always gave 110%, plus he seemed the be a low key fan favorite, and seemingly just a nice guy from what I've seen in interviews and such.
Wtf is wrong with that guy.
A great comparison is Captain Herbert Sobel from the mini series Band of Brothers. He got his men ready to a point. But he didn’t have their respect. Major Dick Winters eventually lead Easy Compamy. He had the respect of the men and could get the most out of them. And this was the Greatest Generation-not the softies of Gen Z. That style of leadership didn’t fly then. Coaches need to be a Dick Winters,
"You should read the article"
Doesn't link the article....
Babcock needs to be banned from Hockey. The man needs psychological help.
regrettably narcissism is generally unfixable
What about good old doug Gilmore and his "sitter" in Calgary ??
here to say i genuinely love your work.
No way Babcock ever gets hired in NHL again.
Where is the article?
Trading Marner still makes 0 sense.
With his salary you could get 2 decent players who preform in the playoffs
If he comes back to the N H L !!There is something is Wrong with this League ? Because he is not a good coach and he is terrible when he 1 on 1 he is terrible person ? How many players did he ruined because of his attitude? Thanks for your time and video! Please don't let him back in this League w
Lol he’s one of the best coaches of all time… and some people can’t handle being spoken to or treated a certain way. In all honestly I’m sure that the guys who worked through doubt and adversity say he’s a good coach and the ones that were coddled to the league hate him lol
@@The_world_at_large bingo. 💯
@@The_world_at_large he underperformed in Detroit and didn't even get past the first round of the playoffs since 2013 or so. Nearly universally hated in the locker room even by serial winners with multiple Cup rings.
Or is it Hockey Canada?!?
Nylander had a worse negotiation (sat out part of the season) but produces in the playoffs. If Marner played well in the postseason, he would be everyone’s favourite Leaf.
Dangle: 'He's a pariah ... He's kicked out of the league'
The other dude: 'He's not'
Dangle: 'He's still very much influential'
LOL
In short it’s mike badcock’s fault that leafs management couldnt get our top guys to take discounts because he was an a$$ to them at the beginning of their careers and that’s how they got back at him…makes sense now
dont know how to say this without bashing him as a coach but that Detroit RedWings and 02 Team Canada squad could be coached by a mop and bring home the bacon. Seriously though, yes coaching is needed and has its place but just look at the rosters!
Babcock looks like the goblin from the first spider man movie 😂
Textbook narcissistic sociopath
He's cut out for politics, tech ceo, Bankers...etc. sociopaths are running the world
Let me guess…your mom still does your laundry. 😂
@@Eddie_King_Jr No, your mom does
Describing Trudeau and his cabinet ministers perfectly.
@@glennhankins6927 Or PP and his buddy Galen.
Mitch get outta Taronna. Get the hell out.
Steve, where can I get that Mr. Dressup T?
As a Bruins fan, it really makes me wonder just how close Babcock and Monty are, and what type of tactics Montgomery is employing in the locker room. The Bruins fired Cassidy because he lost the room, Bergeron most importantly, for being too much of a hard ass, so it wouldn't seem to make a lot of sense to hire an acolyte of Babcock's style as a replacement. But yeah, when he's going to him for advice on how to deal with the team, it makes you wonder.
Why whistle-blowing was introduced!!!
@sdpn how about a link to that article you quote over and over and say we gotta read it.
How could the management of the Leafs either not see what Babcock was doing or, worse, not doing anything about it. Babcock sucks.
6:18 Babcock should’ve been eating his meals through a straw at this moment…
“I wish he stuck up for himself and people stuck up for him” thought you were on to something there!
Steve’s comment about Marner
Why didn't we hear anything about his when he was coaching the Leafs and Team Canada?
Steve...I get your point on Marner...great and gifted player BUT we simply cannot afford him anymore!!! Lesson learned tying up all that cap space in 4-5 players. The minute they signed Nylander it was the writing on the wall for Marner in my opinion.
Bro this is half of the coaches I had in juniors, I have been looking back on what I went through and a lot of it was low grade abusive behavior.
90s and 2000s were JUST like this, I had a coach swing a stick at my head, I had a coach trade guys to alaska just to send them away from their families. I had a coach scream at me for discussing politics in a way that he didn't like. Abuse was the order of the day in my hockey career. Not to mention all the racism I had to hear from my own damned teammates as a black guy. Hockey was filled with awful tyrants, I have had to come to terms with loving the game and hating the people. When I was in decently high lvl junior I genuinely hated it and was a wreck.. I had a coach who got fired for racism, single me out, call me fat, and embarrass me in front of everyone. This is how these guys pretty much all behave.
imagine what the wife is going thru
What he did to Modano so disgusted me, and still does. It made me stop watching altogether.
I wonder where Babcock would fall on the psychopath test.
Wow I have not heard these story's. Really unbelievable a pro coach would act this way.
From some of these comments, it’s easy to see why some players perform better with other organizations. We can’t/don’t see these ‘issues’ in real time but MANY players improve dramatically AFTER A MOVE/TRADE likely, in some cases because of different management styles. Personally I could never have succeeded under that ‘yoke’ that guys like Babcock create in the room. Now I’m wondering what life will be like in LEAFLAND under Berube. What kind of person is he behind the scenes? Is MLSE heading down the same path AGAIN ?