@@howdidyougetinhere3881yeah especially for that challenge where some contestants had to dance for the equality of an hour straight. i saw on another YT channel that some got hospitalized due to the challenge also
@@howdidyougetinhere3881The Yoon part i don't mind because that performance was truly awful but what really ticked me off is lee seung gi.he expects them to be complete robots.i'd like to see him to that difficult choreo 20 times with 30 second breaks and then talk Like he himself cannot dance at all idk why he's even here 😂
I'm very disappointed in Yoon's behavior 😞 Hope she can do some reflection and think about the image she wants to present as well as the image she wants to present to the world
The only 4th gen mentor i will ever accept at the moment is Soyeon. Not only has she participated in a survival show, and understand what it's like to compete for your dream, she also has the skills and mindset to actually mentor the contestants. I love Yoon and StayC, but I really hate how she made the atmosphere so dark over sportsmanship. They should scrap the show and do it over with mentors who will actually MENTOR and not break everyones spirit.
@@ImNOTtingting_MYthe criticism is needed, but she didn’t have to stop the rest of the contestants from clapping, they’re only supporting their teammates.
@itsceleste8825 girl stfu, she said "why are you clapping" not "stop clapping", she didn't force them to stop clapping😐 (idgaf if its common to stop clapping after someone asks you that, its still not her fault and she was being completely real which is good, if I were a mentor I'd laugh and give them the stink eye, its also funny how were spreading more hate to yoon then all the other mentors on the show🙂)
@@ImNOTtingting_MY I’m not hating yoon, and why are you being so rude? I was just saying that it was unnecessary to point out the people clapping when she could have just focused on the performance.
i love yoon dont get me wrong, and if it was the public applauding like crazy i wouldve understood. but that was just respectful clapping from contestants to other contestants, some of them are friends too. regardless of the performance being good or bad, supporting each other is an act of education.
@@iroyuthat wasnt the fucking point u imbecile. Yoon herself isn’t even that experienced, she just wants to feel better than the trainees like what mentors did to her back then.
I can't give much of an opinion because I'm not watching it, at the same time that I think mentors need to be tough, everything I see of Starlight is a big mess, even without watching everything that appears to me seems so wrong. Can someone help the poor boys???! Because they are clearly suffering with the treatment there It's everything wrong, I mean...what the hell are the producers thinking????!☠️
mentors need to be tough, NOT abusing their powers to bully the contestants mentally. Other survival shows have tough mentor too but THEY give them constructive criticism and teach them something. These judges just love being in the power to abuse these boys.
Why is STAYC a mentor for the show? I would think a mentor need to be at least 12 or 15 years experience.. if they need a younger mentor, at least 7 years experience?
@@sophieteinforma Bad take. There is no minimum amount of greater experience that qualifies someone to be a mentor. If you have one week’s more experience in a field, you can mentor someone. You’re just pulling those numbers out of thin air so you can jump on the Yoon criticism bandwagon.
@@TrevorSmith-o3k One who has a week experience can teach someone but to mentor 20+ people you gotta have enough experience and knowledge to guide them to their career and by enough it means minimum 7 years even that is still too young and on top of experience one needs the ability to teach these group of people properly. Maybe she does have enough experience but it would have been better if a judge have more than 6 or 7 years of experience.
Hate is to much but I agree that clapping wasn’t a bad thing. They wanted to show support and keep a healthy- friendly relationship with others and there is no problem in it.
I mean, the criticisms are understandable. Even if the performance was a mess it's normal to applaud after someone still had the courage of doing something. It's basic respect. Like i have to admit that the mentors are trying to look and sound so strict that it just becomes rude. Mentors are supposed to give actual constructive criticism, not bring down every single contestants for everything they do. That's just too much. In the situation they are in, it's completely normal to applause and at least encourage the other contestants. It definitely didn't deserve the energy it got from the mentors.
@@Yuu-d7b The clip is too short to know the full context, after Yoon said that she felt sorry towards the contestants and she was empathising with them
@@oncextokki she feels sorry but does that? This whole show has some serious mistreatment issues and not only yoon but the other mentors as well because the contestants are seriously going through it. But like it is borderline abuse what they are doing on this show. It is important to take the contest of the whole show to judge this moment. This boys are literally being mentally and physically tortured by the producers and the mentors make it even worst by being super aggressive toward the contestants for CLAPPING?! The mentors are going way too far. And even if yoon feels bad she still acts wrongly towards them and pass a limit. Same for the other mentors. The contestants shouldn't be talked to like that. They are already going though hell they shouldn't be forbidden and reprimanded for showing support for others and trying to encourage one another.
@@lelebb4785 Are you being for real now? How delusional can you get?? Blame the producers of the show, not the judges. The mistreatment towards the contestants aren't because of the mentors but the freaking producers. Yoon just stated something as do every other judge/mentor. Why? Because that's her ROLE. She has to say realistic comments so the contestants don't get too ahead of themselves or think they did really well when they didn't. Also there have been tonnes of other survival shows where judges have said the same exact thing or even harsher comments - that's just what they're meant to do, so the contestants can improve. And I get that these contestants are being abused but Yoon hasn't done shit to them, the other judges said comments yet y'all aren't saying anything. It's always like this when it comes to female idols 🙄 The hate is seriously so forced, so don't even try.
@@oncextokki the judges also are to blame because their behavior is not ok. Yoon didn't "stated something". She literally got mad at the contestant because they dare applause out of respect their fellow contestants. And i don't recall any survival shows where mentors shamed people for applauding. Like seriously. The condition those contestants are put through is disgusting. And as mentors, their role is not only to teach and judge them, but also help them. How is this in ANY kind of way helpful. How is shaming them for supporting each other helpful? How is treating them as if they were in the army helpful? Also the mentors, including yoon give literally barely any actual constructively criticisms. Sire they should be realistic and say the truth. But there is a way of saying it. There is a way of actually helping people improve instead of just bringing them down. Because again, their job as mentors is to help them improve. Yoon is not acting as a good mentor and deserves to be called out for it. Does she deserves dea** threats? Absolutely not. But the mentors seriously need to tone it down because the way all of them act is just wrong. And stop with the "it's because she is a woman". The other mentors ar also getting called out like crazy. People are saying something unlike what you are saying. People are against this show practice and the way mentors act. Not only toward yoon.
@lelebb4785 If she was "mad" at the contestant then she would have thrown something at him, it's called being disappointed. She knows that they have potential and can improve. But seriously some of you guys are acting like she's the one abusing them, when, again, she's just a mentor who's meant to stay stuff like that so they don't perform like that again
I feel like the producers tell mentors what to say, or at least strongly encourage them to judge harsh so a clip might go viral. They’re trying to recreate Lisa’s “why didn’t u smile?” moment on that Chinese show. So it’s all scripted and what the judges do are forced.
Every survival show have clip like this. First time I watch was creation of Izone. I remember Sakura (I like her at that time) getting tough comment by judge "you can't sing why you become center? The whole group seems like mess" something like that
Mentoring is teaching and leading. The clapping was a show of support to young, untrained contestants who had worked hard to learn choreography and lyrics. They did not do well, but those clapping knew they had improved and that it takes courage to perform. None of the mentors are mentoring. They are harsh, judgmental, and intentionally left 2 and all star contestants dancing to cause emotional distress. The producers have greatly underestimated the viewing audience. We want to see performances, not intentionally created stress and drama.
It's not that deep srsly. You think if real idols dance the way these people did people would clap?? They will get boo instead 😂.what she said could be the reason he tried hard and pulled off the dance instead of thinking high of himself just because their peers clap on their awful performance.
i'm sorry ??? but ??? have you never seen a survival show before ? you can disagree with yoon's reaction but saying stuff like "you are barely experienced" when she has 4 years experience as an idol is crazy. also kpop stans always talk about mediocrity but when a judge on a survival show isn't taking mediocrity y'all hating. the show deserves criticism as all survival shows do in different areas. this particular situation is blown way out of proportion, you're hating on a real person and i don't think you'd like it if someone were hating on your fave.
@@imjustherefortheks even if the performance was bad, they still had the courage to pull through and finish. The applause wasn't because they were good but because they tried. They are not idols yet, so this performance did not count. the mentor is here to give criticism and advice not full on be oppressive and insensitive. she deserves the criticism she and the others are getting but not hate.
Absolutely, the hate hounestly isnt that surprising. These idols know how hard it is to even become an idol, how dare they act like their gods in front of these trainees. DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR!!!
My bias was also once became the mentor in a survival show and got hate for criticizing the contestant. He debuted in 2017. It doesn't matter how long they debuted. Idols are an easy target for hate so i'd rather my bias stay away from survival show.
It's so weird how people say she's "abusing her power as a mentor" when like... she didn't even berate them or anything she literally JUST said "Why are you guys clapping?" If that's the worst thing you've heard pls go outside... I understand being upset about the show for other reasons but those mostly are producer issues why hate ONLY on Yoon???
what was she criticizing?? other than being balantly rude?? i clicked on this post to defend her but i could not bring myself to it what she and the others did was mad weird.
All I know is that I've known her since debut and she is the sweetest idol in the world. So whatever is happening to her right now I know that it is just made by the producers and it does not come from Yoon's own conscience. Haters have the opportunity to hate but I and other loyal fans will continue to support and encourage her forever. Yoon dont be worry my baby girl Take cover behind me and trust all Swith Will continue to love you. ❤❤
You know her? Thats some delusional toxic fan-idol relationship you should NOT. BELIEVE. SO. MUCH. How much do you know someone you haven't met in your fcking life? Then continues to"babygirl" the shit outta it. Ew. Also what about the contestants youre gonna use the same "oh producers force them to say that bla bla bla bla bla bla bla" just to not hold them accountable. What if she means what she said? Does it scare you? Are you gonna keep living in denial for a person who doesn't know you exist? Are you? Seriously, idols live and work in the worst condition i thought we agreed on that. But when idols clap for their peers and they FORBADE THEM TO DO IT and then call us haters?? Call US haters for not wanting blatant abuse and manipulative control over peopel lower than them i am against that 10000%
@@smileez2556 No, you're the one jumping on the hate bandwagon because you're probably a literal child. So it's not like I blame you. Yoon is very much behaving like a strict teacher would in this situation. She was cast to play that role. That's how they create drama and get attention. These shows are scripted. You lot are making it out as if she was horrible to them. Your reactions are insane. Go do your homework.
@@iloveyoon1 girl no you do not know her and you do do not know if she is sweet or not. On camera and off camera idols are most likely not the same. I swear to God some kpop fans need to realize that they do not know idols and stop this weird para social behavior. You do not know her. And you also don't know if the producers asked her to do that. Do you not realize just how toxic, obsessed and weird you sound?
No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
@@TathD Because this video is about Yoon?🙄And there's no metric to measure success (for some it's about wealth, for others it's about happiness) so your second statement is just objectively false lmaoo.
I've seen worse in survial shows honestly in terms of "criticism". Let's not forget that this could be easly done for the cameras, to add up some drama, Survival Shows always do these type of stuff, so don't be so harsh on Yoon. About her experience, she has been an idol for about 4 years now, and also 2 years as a trainee, probably she is not the most experienced idol out there, but she ain't new. Let's not forget that the program casted her, she didn't decide to be a judge by herself lol
this hatred made me think Yoon have killed someone or do something so illegal 😂 these bunch of people trying to drag Yoon just bcs 5 second clip lolll This show is scripted and y'all fell for the evil editing 😂
@kpopnimation what is the point? to make it go viral, like this 😂 Yoon is literally the most supportive girl even a smart person could see that in this show she is still doing what she can to encourage the trainees. and now ppl dragging her bcs she said not to clap. if anything the hate should go to the racist judge
Yoon did nothing wrong, everyone is too soft with them. If you want to make it in this industry this is the way to go. You won't survive if your mentors would keep babying you. And don't disrespect Yoon like that, she's been in the industry for 4 years now, she ain't a rookie anymore. And before that she almost trained 3 years. She's talented, she's skilled, she's been trained, she knows how the kpop industry works. Leave her tf alone, she doesn't deserve any hate.
The judges are just abusing their powers and they treat the contestants so bad. Not allowing them to clap hands, is very weird, they always clapped for others in other survival shows. No one is too sensitive, the kpop industry is harsh and the judges are the ONES who think they can treat the trainees badly because they have been treat badly. Yoon is my bias in Stayc but idk how to feel about her, it looks like she enjoys abusing her powers.
@@medeatheesolon Embarrassing comment. Using the word "abuse" for this ridiculous incident is disgusting. There are actual trainees and kpop idols who gets abused mentally and physically. Not allowing someone to clap for a performance that didn't meet the standards is NOT abuse. Shame on you. + How many times do survival shows have to happen until you kpop stans understand that most of it is WRITTEN and decided by the producers, everyone participating (including the judges) are just their puppets. There is a lot wrong with the kpop industry, yes - but there are REAL problems and this one ain't one of them.
@@VideosForYou90You’re missing the point. The person you were responding to , was talking about the mentors and producers abusing the boys from various incidents that already happened. Just yesterday , the boys were being forced to dance to a song FOR AN HOUR straight . Trainees obviously do dance for a long period of time , but the thing was they were not getting any breaks in between ..which is also the reason why some of the contestants literally were sent to the freaking hospital. When one of the constant spoke up , this one judge literally dismissed his concerns and was comparing it to a concert where you have to dance and sing for 3 hours or up. ( True , but breaks are given in between and idols don’t freaking end up in the hospital all the time). There is obviously many abuse cases for idols in the industry , and this is one of them. This clip over here , what Yoon did obviously doesn’t deserve relentless hate , but what she did was kinda unnecessary . In dance competitions, even when the children fall out of their turns on stage the judges and the audience still clap after their performance was over. Not because they thought it was good when it wasn’t , just out of basic respect. The judges obviously do cut points for that and that performance obviously won’t win , but they’ll still clap for the team after their performance since it’s a basic manner. Here , the performance was bad , even the other boys thought so as well. However they clapped cuz it was their fellow contestant and even if they did it wouldn’t have been an issue since it wouldn’t affect the voting or critique. Yoon obviously was trying to give constructive criticism but the comment she made came out as shallow . All survival shows , if you watched “youth with you” , “my teenage girl” boys planet and girls planet 999 you’ll see that the other contestants clap after a performance even if it’s bad out of BASIC RESPECT. The judges don’t clap but they won’t tell the contestants “ why are you clapping ?” or “do you guys think this a club?” . It’d be rude and after they finish clapping , the judges will give harsh and constructive critic. What Yoon and the other judge could’ve done was wait for the contestants to stop clapping and then give criticism like any other survival show judge , they didn’t need to make that comment. I don’t think anyone can say Yoon is a bad person due to this short clip but it’s not exactly right either 🫤🫤
@@mishuramim2006you're blowing one stray comment way out of proportion. It's like she committed war crimes by telling them not to clap for a bad performance. And nobody is even mentioning the other judge who said the same thing. It's fun hating on women, isn't it?
@@TathD WTH? I literally mentioned the judge who said “you think this is a club “ ? And I’m a girl as well. It’s obviously not a whole crime , but it was unnecessary because the guys were just clapping out of respect , not because they actually like the performance. It’s literally a thing in survival shows and just any dance competition or singing stuff or anything to clap after a performance. So why ask why they’re clapping when literally everyone does it?💀💀 I didn’t say Yoon or the other guy was exactly a bad person , I literally mentioned she doesn’t deserve hate for the clip , just that it was obviously a little unnecessary to say that.
Lisa and Soyeon didn't get on someone's case over clapping... There is a huge difference between giving constructive criticism to someone who needs it and getting mad because trainees are clapping after a performance.
Idc man. Yoon is the sweetest idol I know. She's really kind and softhearted. Idgaf about that show. I love Yoon and I will always support whatever she does.
@@choerryxoxo No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
The problem is them not being soft with the contestants, the problem is the them scolding the other contestants for clapping instead. This isn't too serious to drag but that comment was just unnecessary.
She is indeed an idol & went through a harsh process of training in order to debut & maintaning her image & popularity but idk if her skillset & mindset is strong enough & good enough to make rational points to be given out towards the struggling trainees. Her hardships are valid but it'll be much better if they got an actual kpop idol mentor like one of judges & mentors during produce 101 for boys & girls.
Maybe this is harsh, but in terms of her making that comment i think it was justified and not deserving of hate. All it takes is watching the full clip to understand. Their performance was awful - their peers were laughing at them and the mentors looked genuinely offended. I haven’t watched the show but if anything I’d blame the producers. What a mess
I'm not sure if you watch it, it's an interim evaluation. What's for to clap when they did so poorly? The mentor did the right thing. This is ok compare to Lee Seung Gi.
I don't think that comment was that necessary considering that I other survival shows other contestants do clap. I mean the boys are gonna get hate if they Clap for one performance and don't for the rest
Honestly I say blame the producers of these shows cause with survival shows like this, it’s always scripted and the judges need to say what the producers wants them to say, even if it’s rude just to get more publicity and attention from the media. I bet after they saw how popular the show got after the contestants started protesting in the show the producers decided to continue doing abusive things to them and told the judges to be more harder on the contestants as well to gain more publicity
@@smileez2556 no I’m holding the whole show accountable including the ones that made it aka the producers. Like I said the producers are to blame because they are in charge of this stuff and more and honestly if you watched the episode Yoon literally says she feels bad for the members and actually looks concerned for them. It’s literally how kpop fans got mad at an ex idol for taking about sex in a show even tho it’s in her script to say those things 💀
wow! it's a reality show, it's all show and drama... i feel like things like these will be the downfall of Korean entertainment, everyone is too sensible...
I'm so tired of seeing "y'all just love to hate on women." A lot of the time, that is a valid statement to make, however, people are throwing that phrase around literally everywhere. Does she deserve hate? Obviously not, but she does deserve the criticism because that was rude. Man or woman, it was rude and I get the uproar.
watch any bts videos for dance practice, real mentors are harsher, a member usually ends up very frustrated or in tears because of it. they have to know how to handle these things, especially the netizens who will hate on your every move. the judges in boys planet reacted nearly the same exact way when those contestants were performing hot by svt...i didnt see them getting any hate? the contestants in the audience were silent too, they didnt get hate either. people just want an excuse to hate on something.
@@jennie-c8l you are literally endorsing these disgusting behaviors. These mentors need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs right. This abuse has been going on for far too long. Sadly, only the quality of K-pop is improving and not the mentors. BTS or these boys don't deserve crappy mentors like this. Why are you speaking as if this behavior from mentors and fans should be normalised?
@@jennie-c8l No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
@@kpopnimation i get trying to be supportive, but she was asking why they were clapping for a terrible performance which is a valid question. if you actually watch the performance you can tell its bad. bringing up my last point, if youre watching an ice skating show, and the ice skater keeps messing up, why would you clap?
@@jennie-c8lthere's a difference in getting onto people for a legit reason and getting onto people for clapping. It just comes off like a power trip. Plus, from what I've heard this show is especially hard on them, so nitpicking something so unimportant is ridiculous.
The same people asking how someone from stayc can be a mentor are the same idiots critiquing idols on a daily basis. At least shes actually been a trainee and debuted……. Yoon was right too. The clapping was stupid.
Guys the performance was terrible. Not only was it terrible but the other trainees were laughing during the performance and then proceeded to clap at the end of it, is that not disrespectful? What she said is; right why are they clapping?
Ding ding ding. Those who actually watched the performance would seem to know what truly happened and NOT just the scolding clip. Teen commenters here are lacking intelligence and definitely haven’t had their brain fully developed yet
@@TMlSenya She wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance though. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
The path to being in a group requires near perfection. So alot of things should be harsh.... Have y'all forgotten how Lisa roasted her youth with you students??
@@alrose8870You want to know the difference? Lisa was critiquing performances. She was giving feedback albeit bluntly. Yoon’s moment was just uncalled for and unnecessary.
Wow. The amount of people attacking the mentors and defending the trainees is disappointing. Imagine the mentors didn't do their job and let trainees lacking in skill pass, who would you criticize next? I know the mentor's acted this way with the trainees best interest in mind. They gave them a wakeup call because this is an audition program. Thousands of trainees fight to even get onto an audition program and to see them acting like that while lacking skills is a slap in the face to any talented and hardworking trainee. Soyeon and Lisa are two idol mentors that got it right and Yoon is among them. She motivated the trainees and gave criticism. It's about balance.
FOR CLAPPING LISTEN TO YOURSELF HOLY SHIT YOU THINK THESE FUTURE IDOLS CAME HERE FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES??? THEY WORK SO FUCKING HARD TO PROVE THEY BELONG THERE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SAY???? YOU STOP OTHER CONTESTANTS THAT ALSO WORK HARD FROM CLAPPING BECAUSE THEIR PERFORMANCE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH?
@@ImNOTtingting_MY No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping.
honestly i understand why shes getting hate but at the same time you have to look at it from a different perspective. Shes a JUDGE on a SURVIVAL SHOW..bro yall keep complaining when a kpop group has idols who cant sing nor dance but get mad when judges critize those typa idols..you cant just sugarcoat everything..
I think what Yoon did was right. Because she seemed to make the contestants aware of what the kpop industry is really like. Many idols who don't perform well are not only criticized, but they also receive big insults that make them depressed. So I think Yoon wants to encourage The contestants should try harder to put on a good performance by realizing that if they still appear like that when they debut in the future, they will receive huge insults. I also understand that other contestants applaud their friends as a form of appreciation for having the courage to perform, but who would applaud an idol who actually performed poorly like that? Won't they only receive criticism and insults? So in my opinion, what Yoon did was right, namely by making them aware. If they could be a little better than that, maybe Yoon could tolerate it, but it was really bad, therefore Yoon really had to be firm.
not the commenters with 0 experience and 0 knowledge telling yoon shes unexperienced and unknowledgable... the call is coming from inside the house much?
All the criticism is needed for the judges as for Daesung he barely even danced in his whole career compared to how hard and good the trainees danced And Daesung is judging them for not dancing good when they were good. Choi Young Jun and Lee Sung Gi are not Idols and don't know the actual life of idols but scolding the trainees harshly saying "with this skill u can never be an idol" is something not acceptable. Eunbi and Yoon are not much famous outside of Korea (as I never knew them) and they don't have much experience and as girls they never danced like male idols but judging the trainees saying "u can't be an idol if dance like this or sing like this". They should have brought Soyeon or Lisa or CL for female judges😮💨. While Hui, Eric and Hanhae were respectful but also strict like they should be. Over all this show is a MESS beyond imagination 😣😒.
Don't someone have the right to applaud 🤬? Yoon be acting like she has the experience of 100 years when she only has 4 years of training and not even that much famous 🙄. I'm only watching the show for their debut and to know them better but I just can't stand any judge except Hanhae and Hui who were the only judges that were respectful to trainees.
because of the thing where the boys danced nonstop, people are on the edge about every little thing from this show. we should be more sensible towards this show, but not THAT much. as someone whose faves have been really affected by videos taken out of context, I hope people see the whole video and realize that yoon was not being rude or whatever
I don't think Yoon need any hate the real hate should be given to the other judges Yoon still had the soft spot for the trainees and I know Yoon was getting hurt inside too seeing the crying and panting contestant But I gotta say it Yoon was kinda wrong she have to understand that they are from other countries which are not strict as Korea they are kinda used to clapping and always tries to support others specially Japan and Thailand they are not stones like Korean Celebrities And also 1:25 This comment is actually relatable
I was wondering about this before, are Eric and Yoon really "advanced" enough to be mentors on a survival show? I mean, it always has been senior kpop idols with experience in more than one field (like Solji in Boys Planet for example) or who trained their "specialty" long or professionally before becoming an idol (like The8 from seventeen, he was a dance mentor in a Chinese survival show). I like them both and I mean no hate, just that they don't feel like "authorities", mentors enough... I haven't seen the show fully yet, so maybe I am wrong. I'm just afraid that they may be "too green" in this field still, and won't be much help to the trainees, I don't know.
@CHERRYBEE_YT I know that they’ve been idols for relatively long time and also trained before that, what I said is that feel bit conflicted on this matter and not that I am sure that they’re unsuitable. It’s not an attack on them
@@yeol174 almost half a decade is a pretty long time though. i think its good to have a younger idol, because trends and other things change over time.
it scripted ik for real. yoon wasn't that negative! she always being supportive towards many artist and i dont think she would treat trainee like that!
I feel people are ignoring things and just blindly hating and attacking the judges, yes, in a svs it’s got to be tough, it’s a competition you shouldn’t expect to see such a light fight but I highly doubt this is all just the reality of the judges, it feels scripted and it’s even worse if you think about evil editing
@@NswerfromMixxtopia-ei4pd but at the same time, why does it matter that they clapped? As a mentor, she should’ve just focused on giving feedback and criticism to the ones who did poorly and not bother the other trainees.
I understand..yon has had her share of bad vocals and she clapped and laughed like it was nothing. Why is she even a judge? I could see if she was an of idol, but out of all members of stayc it should’ve been Sieun. Lisa did the exact same thing when she was a mentor, but the difference is she gave constructive criticism and helped them improve. The show itself seems like it doesn’t it cares about the contestants improving.they just care about the ratings and views even if it means torturing the contestants. The only mentor on that show who was humane was Hui and even then I feel he could’ve stocked up for the contestants. I saw him fighting tears while watching them dance until they’re sick or on the verge of passing out. Toon doesn’t deserve death threats or any threats, however, all judges of this show deserve hate. The producers and directors need to be called out as well. I hope the contestants find their way and choose their health first.
Yoon is like the purest soul there is dawg. Crazy that people know how scripted these shows are yet still turn around and only attack the female mentor when the male mentor also criticized them.
honestly, the guys who applauded were giggling during the performance, shady asf. yoon said that, apparently calling them out for applauding a bad performance, but regardless of whether it's just courtesy or whether you only do it when it's great, clapping to the performance you were mocking is terrible. she was right (and no, I don't stan stayc)
@@scarlotteadams8262 Korean dudes with no medical issues serve in military. Unlike wussies from other countries where weak dudes never fired a weapon in their life.
The hate Yoon is receiving smacks of misogyny, some of it internalized and coming from women who really like their delicate, young boys. This is proven by the fact that nobody cares that the male mentor agreed with her. The comment seems mild from the clip being shown and after a bad performance it probably made even more sense. Has nobody ever seen what Soyeon did as a mentor? They are cast to play roles in these shows, one of them being that of a strict teacher. These shows are scripted and they create drama through clever editing to grab eyeballs. But that's all too much and you'd rather hate on the successful, talented young woman, wouldn't you? Yes, Yoon is young but saying she has no experience is crazy. You semi-literate Neanderthals might not know them but Koreans love STAYC. They debuted from a small company and made it through sheer skill. If Yoon has advice for a trainee it's going to be valuable. But you'd rather scapegoat her for all of the show's failures, wouldn't you? As if she's done war crimes. It's ridiculous. She deserves better.
@@TathD people are annoyed because her comment was super unnecessary. As a mentor, she should feel free to criticize the trainee’s performances. If she gave harsh feedback for their dance, vocals, etc. that’s fine. That’s her job. However, jumping on the other trainees for clapping was not constructive.
I stopped watching that show because it's so obvious how they're trying to attract audience through bad publicity. The narrative that they are trying to create is so toxic. This show is so scripted; this is worse than MNET's evil editing.
I swearrr people need to actually watch the show and get context instead of basing their entire opinions on clips on twitter, like instead of jumping to conclusions, why don’t you SEE why they do certain thing and then make your judgement. From what I’ve seen Yoon and Eric have given genuine advice and only spoke up when they see an issue especially compared to other, ruder judges, like dmpo 😒
Imo she deserves the hate because "why were you applauding" they can't do anything they want now? They were here to fulfill their dreams?? Right?? But not only her all the judges deserves the hate.
Why? That's right, you just stan her. She could chop someones hand off and you'll still be on her side. StayC is also pretty mid if compared to other girlgroups.
This ! Like I understand people's anger about the show because it's clear (at least to me) that they are mistreating the contestant but Yoon asking trainees why they clapped at a disapointing performance isn't an issue. That reminded me of Soyeon telling the audience to vote for talented people, not because of visuals. Is it harsh to tell that in front of someone ? A bit yes, but you can get better at performing, especially when you're still a trainee. But debuting in a harsh industry with disapointing level of performing is going to exposed these trainees to harrassement.
@chlopee2220 Exactly, she's just doing her role as a judge/mentor,and if she's going to let them off then they'll continue with the same level of disappointment. Plus there's tonnes of other survival shows where judges have said similar or even harsher comments - it's normal.
@@chlopee2220 except that 1. Soyeon did it in a polite way and 2. The vote actually mattered because the audience was literally chosing who was surviving or not. Here wether the contestants clap or not doesn't affect in any kind of way the ranking. Soyeon called put the audience because it wasn't fair taht less good performances were getting more vote than the good one just because of popularity and visual. The situation is nothing like this. So comparing them is pointless. Here they were just being respectful and clapped because that is basic etiquette. Basic respect. And when you see how horrendously the contestants here are treated, they have every right to try to support each other by clapping to at least bring a little strength through the hell they are going through right now. They, in no way, deserved to be talked that way flr clapping. They had every right to applause the other contestants.
She wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance though. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
![[C.C.] SOYEON gets furious after watching the trainee's performance #GIDLE #SOYEON](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HRb20y-6gKs/mqdefault.jpg)
Starlight boys is such a hot mess. Every "mentor" deserves hate for everything happening on that damn show
I would actually say that should be on the show's creators/producers not the mentors but go off I guess.
@@howdidyougetinhere3881yeah especially for that challenge where some contestants had to dance for the equality of an hour straight. i saw on another YT channel that some got hospitalized due to the challenge also
@@howdidyougetinhere3881The Yoon part i don't mind because that performance was truly awful but what really ticked me off is lee seung gi.he expects them to be complete robots.i'd like to see him to that difficult choreo 20 times with 30 second breaks and then talk Like he himself cannot dance at all idk why he's even here 😂
Agree
I'm very disappointed in Yoon's behavior 😞 Hope she can do some reflection and think about the image she wants to present as well as the image she wants to present to the world
All the judges need criticism but don’t hate them, starlight boys is really mistreating all the contestants
The only 4th gen mentor i will ever accept at the moment is Soyeon. Not only has she participated in a survival show, and understand what it's like to compete for your dream, she also has the skills and mindset to actually mentor the contestants. I love Yoon and StayC, but I really hate how she made the atmosphere so dark over sportsmanship. They should scrap the show and do it over with mentors who will actually MENTOR and not break everyones spirit.
I think the hate is unnecessary.. but criticism for it is fine. Starlight boys is a mess though, the producers deserve hate instead.
the performance was awful, yoon shouldn't be criticized for speaking the truth
@@ImNOTtingting_MY you are saying nothing but facts
@@ImNOTtingting_MYthe criticism is needed, but she didn’t have to stop the rest of the contestants from clapping, they’re only supporting their teammates.
@itsceleste8825 girl stfu, she said "why are you clapping" not "stop clapping", she didn't force them to stop clapping😐 (idgaf if its common to stop clapping after someone asks you that, its still not her fault and she was being completely real which is good, if I were a mentor I'd laugh and give them the stink eye, its also funny how were spreading more hate to yoon then all the other mentors on the show🙂)
@@ImNOTtingting_MY I’m not hating yoon, and why are you being so rude? I was just saying that it was unnecessary to point out the people clapping when she could have just focused on the performance.
i love yoon dont get me wrong, and if it was the public applauding like crazy i wouldve understood. but that was just respectful clapping from contestants to other contestants, some of them are friends too. regardless of the performance being good or bad, supporting each other is an act of education.
ypu spoke my mind..damn agree..its to support each other
You guys are soft , you wouldn't even last a minute watching other kpop survival shows.
@@iroyuthat wasnt the fucking point u imbecile. Yoon herself isn’t even that experienced, she just wants to feel better than the trainees like what mentors did to her back then.
yall should develop some frontal lobes ngl. AND BRUHH im so tired of ppl pretending to love yoon, you def didn't stop lyin😂
u don’t love her, saying that won’t make matters better
I can't give much of an opinion because I'm not watching it, at the same time that I think mentors need to be tough, everything I see of Starlight is a big mess, even without watching everything that appears to me seems so wrong. Can someone help the poor boys???! Because they are clearly suffering with the treatment there It's everything wrong, I mean...what the hell are the producers thinking????!☠️
Mentors need to be tough, but constructive. These mentors are just too harsh so far...
mentors need to be tough, NOT abusing their powers to bully the contestants mentally. Other survival shows have tough mentor too but THEY give them constructive criticism and teach them something. These judges just love being in the power to abuse these boys.
Why is STAYC a mentor for the show? I would think a mentor need to be at least 12 or 15 years experience.. if they need a younger mentor, at least 7 years experience?
REALL, no one from 4th generation & 5th gen should be a mentor, just 3/2/1th gen choreographers, producers, idols, etc.
@@sophieteinformathere’s no one from 5th gen tho
@noooodlealls never said that, I meant that not mentor from the fourth upwards
@@sophieteinforma Bad take. There is no minimum amount of greater experience that qualifies someone to be a mentor. If you have one week’s more experience in a field, you can mentor someone. You’re just pulling those numbers out of thin air so you can jump on the Yoon criticism bandwagon.
@@TrevorSmith-o3k One who has a week experience can teach someone but to mentor 20+ people you gotta have enough experience and knowledge to guide them to their career and by enough it means minimum 7 years even that is still too young and on top of experience one needs the ability to teach these group of people properly. Maybe she does have enough experience but it would have been better if a judge have more than 6 or 7 years of experience.
Hate is to much but I agree that clapping wasn’t a bad thing. They wanted to show support and keep a healthy- friendly relationship with others and there is no problem in it.
I mean, the criticisms are understandable. Even if the performance was a mess it's normal to applaud after someone still had the courage of doing something. It's basic respect. Like i have to admit that the mentors are trying to look and sound so strict that it just becomes rude.
Mentors are supposed to give actual constructive criticism, not bring down every single contestants for everything they do. That's just too much. In the situation they are in, it's completely normal to applause and at least encourage the other contestants. It definitely didn't deserve the energy it got from the mentors.
@@Yuu-d7b The clip is too short to know the full context, after Yoon said that she felt sorry towards the contestants and she was empathising with them
@@oncextokki she feels sorry but does that?
This whole show has some serious mistreatment issues and not only yoon but the other mentors as well because the contestants are seriously going through it. But like it is borderline abuse what they are doing on this show.
It is important to take the contest of the whole show to judge this moment.
This boys are literally being mentally and physically tortured by the producers and the mentors make it even worst by being super aggressive toward the contestants for CLAPPING?! The mentors are going way too far. And even if yoon feels bad she still acts wrongly towards them and pass a limit. Same for the other mentors.
The contestants shouldn't be talked to like that.
They are already going though hell they shouldn't be forbidden and reprimanded for showing support for others and trying to encourage one another.
@@lelebb4785 Are you being for real now? How delusional can you get?? Blame the producers of the show, not the judges. The mistreatment towards the contestants aren't because of the mentors but the freaking producers. Yoon just stated something as do every other judge/mentor. Why? Because that's her ROLE. She has to say realistic comments so the contestants don't get too ahead of themselves or think they did really well when they didn't. Also there have been tonnes of other survival shows where judges have said the same exact thing or even harsher comments - that's just what they're meant to do, so the contestants can improve. And I get that these contestants are being abused but Yoon hasn't done shit to them, the other judges said comments yet y'all aren't saying anything. It's always like this when it comes to female idols 🙄 The hate is seriously so forced, so don't even try.
@@oncextokki the judges also are to blame because their behavior is not ok. Yoon didn't "stated something". She literally got mad at the contestant because they dare applause out of respect their fellow contestants.
And i don't recall any survival shows where mentors shamed people for applauding. Like seriously. The condition those contestants are put through is disgusting.
And as mentors, their role is not only to teach and judge them, but also help them.
How is this in ANY kind of way helpful. How is shaming them for supporting each other helpful?
How is treating them as if they were in the army helpful?
Also the mentors, including yoon give literally barely any actual constructively criticisms. Sire they should be realistic and say the truth. But there is a way of saying it. There is a way of actually helping people improve instead of just bringing them down. Because again, their job as mentors is to help them improve.
Yoon is not acting as a good mentor and deserves to be called out for it.
Does she deserves dea** threats? Absolutely not. But the mentors seriously need to tone it down because the way all of them act is just wrong.
And stop with the "it's because she is a woman". The other mentors ar also getting called out like crazy. People are saying something unlike what you are saying. People are against this show practice and the way mentors act. Not only toward yoon.
@lelebb4785 If she was "mad" at the contestant then she would have thrown something at him, it's called being disappointed. She knows that they have potential and can improve. But seriously some of you guys are acting like she's the one abusing them, when, again, she's just a mentor who's meant to stay stuff like that so they don't perform like that again
I feel like the producers tell mentors what to say, or at least strongly encourage them to judge harsh so a clip might go viral. They’re trying to recreate Lisa’s “why didn’t u smile?” moment on that Chinese show. So it’s all scripted and what the judges do are forced.
Yes, and maybe also Soyeon attitude
@@One_instant_noodle Soyeon was never rude though. She was just speaking facts
That’s every survival show, bud.
Every survival show have clip like this. First time I watch was creation of Izone. I remember Sakura (I like her at that time) getting tough comment by judge "you can't sing why you become center? The whole group seems like mess" something like that
Mentoring is teaching and leading. The clapping was a show of support to young, untrained contestants who had worked hard to learn choreography and lyrics. They did not do well, but those clapping knew they had improved and that it takes courage to perform. None of the mentors are mentoring. They are harsh, judgmental, and intentionally left 2 and all star contestants dancing to cause emotional distress. The producers have greatly underestimated the viewing audience. We want to see performances, not intentionally created stress and drama.
Amen
It's not that deep srsly. You think if real idols dance the way these people did people would clap?? They will get boo instead 😂.what she said could be the reason he tried hard and pulled off the dance instead of thinking high of himself just because their peers clap on their awful performance.
clapping (even of the performance didn't go well) is just a standard courtesy!!! WTF it's not a problem on other survival shows!??
i'm sorry ??? but ??? have you never seen a survival show before ? you can disagree with yoon's reaction but saying stuff like "you are barely experienced" when she has 4 years experience as an idol is crazy. also kpop stans always talk about mediocrity but when a judge on a survival show isn't taking mediocrity y'all hating. the show deserves criticism as all survival shows do in different areas. this particular situation is blown way out of proportion, you're hating on a real person and i don't think you'd like it if someone were hating on your fave.
They are applauding bc they are educated...? Polite?
Have you watched the show or at least the performance?
They are doing it to show support. They boys at least finished, even if they werent good and were embarassed. It's basic respect
@@imjustherefortheks even if the performance was bad, they still had the courage to pull through and finish. The applause wasn't because they were good but because they tried. They are not idols yet, so this performance did not count. the mentor is here to give criticism and advice not full on be oppressive and insensitive. she deserves the criticism she and the others are getting but not hate.
@@dominantalphaboy651 you watched the whole show then? Afterwards?
@@Aveline__790 are you illetrate? thats what my comment says
Absolutely, the hate hounestly isnt that surprising. These idols know how hard it is to even become an idol, how dare they act like their gods in front of these trainees. DISGUSTING BEHAVIOUR!!!
Saying she has no or little experience is CRAZY.
My bias was also once became the mentor in a survival show and got hate for criticizing the contestant. He debuted in 2017. It doesn't matter how long they debuted. Idols are an easy target for hate so i'd rather my bias stay away from survival show.
It's so weird how people say she's "abusing her power as a mentor" when like... she didn't even berate them or anything she literally JUST said "Why are you guys clapping?" If that's the worst thing you've heard pls go outside... I understand being upset about the show for other reasons but those mostly are producer issues why hate ONLY on Yoon???
Girly literally mediocre idol and had the audacity to get bitter over claps. Bruh
I take it back lol, I really hate the Chinese trainee one. She's totally not in the wrong
The hate is so forced .like bro she is the freaking mentor. And she have the right to judge/critisize as she has experienced being a kpop idol.
She wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance though. She was getting on their case for simply clapping.
what was she criticizing?? other than being balantly rude?? i clicked on this post to defend her but i could not bring myself to it what she and the others did was mad weird.
you criticize someone for clapping??
this 13 year olds dont get it... the boys will go through much worse if they get to debut
I take my words back.i saw the episode and I saw how she behaved infront of the trainees.
All I know is that I've known her since debut and she is the sweetest idol in the world. So whatever is happening to her right now I know that it is just made by the producers and it does not come from Yoon's own conscience. Haters have the opportunity to hate but I and other loyal fans will continue to support and encourage her forever. Yoon dont be worry my baby girl Take cover behind me and trust all Swith Will continue to love you. ❤❤
You know her? Thats some delusional toxic fan-idol relationship you should NOT. BELIEVE. SO. MUCH. How much do you know someone you haven't met in your fcking life? Then continues to"babygirl" the shit outta it. Ew. Also what about the contestants youre gonna use the same "oh producers force them to say that bla bla bla bla bla bla bla" just to not hold them accountable. What if she means what she said? Does it scare you? Are you gonna keep living in denial for a person who doesn't know you exist? Are you? Seriously, idols live and work in the worst condition i thought we agreed on that. But when idols clap for their peers and they FORBADE THEM TO DO IT and then call us haters?? Call US haters for not wanting blatant abuse and manipulative control over peopel lower than them i am against that 10000%
There a CLEAR difference between strictly mentoring and whatever this bs is. Open your eyes. Youre being so blind now
@@smileez2556 No, you're the one jumping on the hate bandwagon because you're probably a literal child. So it's not like I blame you. Yoon is very much behaving like a strict teacher would in this situation. She was cast to play that role. That's how they create drama and get attention. These shows are scripted. You lot are making it out as if she was horrible to them. Your reactions are insane. Go do your homework.
@@smileez2556 Oh my God I'm so scared of you LOL. Yoon doesn't owe you anything so leave her alone and My eyes are clearer than your brain.
@@iloveyoon1 girl no you do not know her and you do do not know if she is sweet or not. On camera and off camera idols are most likely not the same.
I swear to God some kpop fans need to realize that they do not know idols and stop this weird para social behavior.
You do not know her.
And you also don't know if the producers asked her to do that.
Do you not realize just how toxic, obsessed and weird you sound?
No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
Why are you lot only criticizing Yoon and not the male mentor? Just admit you love to hate young women who are more successful than you'll ever be.
@@TathD I only mentioned Yoon because that’s who this video is about.
@@TathD girl...
@@TathD bruh
@@TathD Because this video is about Yoon?🙄And there's no metric to measure success (for some it's about wealth, for others it's about happiness) so your second statement is just objectively false lmaoo.
I've seen worse in survial shows honestly in terms of "criticism".
Let's not forget that this could be easly done for the cameras, to add up some drama, Survival Shows always do these type of stuff, so don't be so harsh on Yoon.
About her experience, she has been an idol for about 4 years now, and also 2 years as a trainee, probably she is not the most experienced idol out there, but she ain't new. Let's not forget that the program casted her, she didn't decide to be a judge by herself lol
sending hate is never okay. unless they’ve k!lled someone, talked with minors, rap!sts and stuff along those lines
Why talking with minors is not okay?
@@Jsiwj0624like talk talk with minors. you can have a conversation, as long as it stays age appropriate.
@@YuqisKitschIsUNFORGIVEN oh
Sending hate is never ok period. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
@@TrevorSmith-o3k curious to see if you are still cool if the crimes happen to your loved ones
this hatred made me think Yoon have killed someone or do something so illegal 😂
these bunch of people trying to drag Yoon just bcs 5 second clip lolll
This show is scripted and y'all fell for the evil editing 😂
@@serbukmomogi why do people always assume it’s scripted? Also, what is the point of evil editing a judge?
@kpopnimation what is the point? to make it go viral, like this 😂
Yoon is literally the most supportive girl even a smart person could see that in this show she is still doing what she can to encourage the trainees. and now ppl dragging her bcs she said not to clap.
if anything the hate should go to the racist judge
Why is so hard to find someone that really experience to become a judge.. there still many experience idols that can be a good judge
Bruh she was just asking its the other judge the problem Yoon havent said anything else after
Yoon did nothing wrong, everyone is too soft with them. If you want to make it in this industry this is the way to go. You won't survive if your mentors would keep babying you. And don't disrespect Yoon like that, she's been in the industry for 4 years now, she ain't a rookie anymore. And before that she almost trained 3 years. She's talented, she's skilled, she's been trained, she knows how the kpop industry works. Leave her tf alone, she doesn't deserve any hate.
The judges are just abusing their powers and they treat the contestants so bad. Not allowing them to clap hands, is very weird, they always clapped for others in other survival shows. No one is too sensitive, the kpop industry is harsh and the judges are the ONES who think they can treat the trainees badly because they have been treat badly. Yoon is my bias in Stayc but idk how to feel about her, it looks like she enjoys abusing her powers.
@@medeatheesolon Embarrassing comment. Using the word "abuse" for this ridiculous incident is disgusting. There are actual trainees and kpop idols who gets abused mentally and physically. Not allowing someone to clap for a performance that didn't meet the standards is NOT abuse. Shame on you. + How many times do survival shows have to happen until you kpop stans understand that most of it is WRITTEN and decided by the producers, everyone participating (including the judges) are just their puppets. There is a lot wrong with the kpop industry, yes - but there are REAL problems and this one ain't one of them.
@@VideosForYou90You’re missing the point. The person you were responding to , was talking about the mentors and producers abusing the boys from various incidents that already happened. Just yesterday , the boys were being forced to dance to a song FOR AN HOUR straight . Trainees obviously do dance for a long period of time , but the thing was they were not getting any breaks in between ..which is also the reason why some of the contestants literally were sent to the freaking hospital.
When one of the constant spoke up , this one judge literally dismissed his concerns and was comparing it to a concert where you have to dance and sing for 3 hours or up. ( True , but breaks are given in between and idols don’t freaking end up in the hospital all the time).
There is obviously many abuse cases for idols in the industry , and this is one of them. This clip over here , what Yoon did obviously doesn’t deserve relentless hate , but what she did was kinda unnecessary .
In dance competitions, even when the children fall out of their turns on stage the judges and the audience still clap after their performance was over. Not because they thought it was good when it wasn’t , just out of basic respect. The judges obviously do cut points for that and that performance obviously won’t win , but they’ll still clap for the team after their performance since it’s a basic manner.
Here , the performance was bad , even the other boys thought so as well. However they clapped cuz it was their fellow contestant and even if they did it wouldn’t have been an issue since it wouldn’t affect the voting or critique. Yoon obviously was trying to give constructive criticism but the comment she made came out as shallow . All survival shows , if you watched “youth with you” , “my teenage girl” boys planet and girls planet 999 you’ll see that the other contestants clap after a performance even if it’s bad out of BASIC RESPECT.
The judges don’t clap but they won’t tell the contestants “ why are you clapping ?” or “do you guys think this a club?” . It’d be rude and after they finish clapping , the judges will give harsh and constructive critic. What Yoon and the other judge could’ve done was wait for the contestants to stop clapping and then give criticism like any other survival show judge , they didn’t need to make that comment.
I don’t think anyone can say Yoon is a bad person due to this short clip but it’s not exactly right either 🫤🫤
@@mishuramim2006you're blowing one stray comment way out of proportion. It's like she committed war crimes by telling them not to clap for a bad performance. And nobody is even mentioning the other judge who said the same thing. It's fun hating on women, isn't it?
@@TathD WTH? I literally mentioned the judge who said “you think this is a club “ ? And I’m a girl as well. It’s obviously not a whole crime , but it was unnecessary because the guys were just clapping out of respect , not because they actually like the performance. It’s literally a thing in survival shows and just any dance competition or singing stuff or anything to clap after a performance. So why ask why they’re clapping when literally everyone does it?💀💀
I didn’t say Yoon or the other guy was exactly a bad person , I literally mentioned she doesn’t deserve hate for the clip , just that it was obviously a little unnecessary to say that.
She's a mentor...y'all are treating her like lisa.....like that's what they should do
Just bcz she has to be strict doesnt mean people cant show atleast decent respect to their fellow mates go cry about it
Don't worry guyssss .. she's gonna be more popular
1:20 this is so true LMFAO
first, all these shows are scripted
second, you all were happy when Lisa and Soyeon were like this in survival shows!!!
Lisa and Soyeon didn't get on someone's case over clapping... There is a huge difference between giving constructive criticism to someone who needs it and getting mad because trainees are clapping after a performance.
Idc man. Yoon is the sweetest idol I know. She's really kind and softhearted. Idgaf about that show. I love Yoon and I will always support whatever she does.
shes so real for that i fear i would say that too #stanstayc #streamgpt
You're proving that you have no common sense.
@@Sky_Kim29 go do ur homework kid
@@scarlotteadams8262 ok Grandma🥺
@@choerryxoxo No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
@@Sky_Kim29 yall 13year Olds wouldn't have survived kpop back in the day😂yall too soft
The whole show should get cancelled pls😢😢
Lol.. tbh that's just a little taste of possible things that might happen after they debut lol.
The problem is them not being soft with the contestants, the problem is the them scolding the other contestants for clapping instead. This isn't too serious to drag but that comment was just unnecessary.
She is indeed an idol & went through a harsh process of training in order to debut & maintaning her image & popularity but idk if her skillset & mindset is strong enough & good enough to make rational points to be given out towards the struggling trainees. Her hardships are valid but it'll be much better if they got an actual kpop idol mentor like one of judges & mentors during produce 101 for boys & girls.
Maybe this is harsh, but in terms of her making that comment i think it was justified and not deserving of hate. All it takes is watching the full clip to understand. Their performance was awful - their peers were laughing at them and the mentors looked genuinely offended.
I haven’t watched the show but if anything I’d blame the producers. What a mess
All they did was clap to show support??? They weren’t overreacting just simply clapping. 💀
I'm not sure if you watch it, it's an interim evaluation. What's for to clap when they did so poorly? The mentor did the right thing. This is ok compare to Lee Seung Gi.
I don't think that comment was that necessary considering that I other survival shows other contestants do clap. I mean the boys are gonna get hate if they Clap for one performance and don't for the rest
Honestly I say blame the producers of these shows cause with survival shows like this, it’s always scripted and the judges need to say what the producers wants them to say, even if it’s rude just to get more publicity and attention from the media. I bet after they saw how popular the show got after the contestants started protesting in the show the producers decided to continue doing abusive things to them and told the judges to be more harder on the contestants as well to gain more publicity
The extent youll take to not take them accountable
@@smileez2556 no I’m holding the whole show accountable including the ones that made it aka the producers. Like I said the producers are to blame because they are in charge of this stuff and more and honestly if you watched the episode Yoon literally says she feels bad for the members and actually looks concerned for them. It’s literally how kpop fans got mad at an ex idol for taking about sex in a show even tho it’s in her script to say those things 💀
@@smileez2556Accountable for what… She did nothing wrong but tell the truth 😭
wow! it's a reality show, it's all show and drama... i feel like things like these will be the downfall of Korean entertainment, everyone is too sensible...
I'm so tired of seeing "y'all just love to hate on women." A lot of the time, that is a valid statement to make, however, people are throwing that phrase around literally everywhere. Does she deserve hate? Obviously not, but she does deserve the criticism because that was rude. Man or woman, it was rude and I get the uproar.
watch any bts videos for dance practice, real mentors are harsher, a member usually ends up very frustrated or in tears because of it. they have to know how to handle these things, especially the netizens who will hate on your every move. the judges in boys planet reacted nearly the same exact way when those contestants were performing hot by svt...i didnt see them getting any hate? the contestants in the audience were silent too, they didnt get hate either. people just want an excuse to hate on something.
@@jennie-c8l you are literally endorsing these disgusting behaviors. These mentors need to shut the fuck up and do their jobs right. This abuse has been going on for far too long. Sadly, only the quality of K-pop is improving and not the mentors. BTS or these boys don't deserve crappy mentors like this. Why are you speaking as if this behavior from mentors and fans should be normalised?
@@jennie-c8l No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
@@kpopnimation i get trying to be supportive, but she was asking why they were clapping for a terrible performance which is a valid question. if you actually watch the performance you can tell its bad. bringing up my last point, if youre watching an ice skating show, and the ice skater keeps messing up, why would you clap?
@@jennie-c8lthere's a difference in getting onto people for a legit reason and getting onto people for clapping. It just comes off like a power trip. Plus, from what I've heard this show is especially hard on them, so nitpicking something so unimportant is ridiculous.
Like the haters are more experienced 😂😂😂😂
All the judges deserve hate for the second episode
The same people asking how someone from stayc can be a mentor are the same idiots critiquing idols on a daily basis. At least shes actually been a trainee and debuted…….
Yoon was right too. The clapping was stupid.
How do you think she was trained? Probably the exact same way.
Worse
Doesn’t make what happened to those boys any less bad.
we do not care she should not be the one to come back and do the same shi her group member did.
@@dominantalphaboy651 If you do not care, then you can't hope to understand. 🤷♂
@@ericfaulk2204 alr,unc.
Guys the performance was terrible. Not only was it terrible but the other trainees were laughing during the performance and then proceeded to clap at the end of it, is that not disrespectful? What she said is; right why are they clapping?
Ding ding ding. Those who actually watched the performance would seem to know what truly happened and NOT just the scolding clip. Teen commenters here are lacking intelligence and definitely haven’t had their brain fully developed yet
@@TMlSenya She wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance though. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
@kpopnimation where in the comment did I say she was critiquing their performance? I'm so tired of this go on somewhere.
People are such hypocrites. They always complain about these shows then go right ahead and continue watching them.
The question in the thumbnail is valid, just saying
The path to being in a group requires near perfection. So alot of things should be harsh.... Have y'all forgotten how Lisa roasted her youth with you students??
@@alrose8870You want to know the difference? Lisa was critiquing performances. She was giving feedback albeit bluntly. Yoon’s moment was just uncalled for and unnecessary.
@kpopnimation nah its warranted. After reading the comments, people that watched the whole episode said their performance was bad.
@kpopnimation also, I'm not including Hybe from my first comment. That company cares more about visuals than talent.
Wow. The amount of people attacking the mentors and defending the trainees is disappointing. Imagine the mentors didn't do their job and let trainees lacking in skill pass, who would you criticize next? I know the mentor's acted this way with the trainees best interest in mind. They gave them a wakeup call because this is an audition program. Thousands of trainees fight to even get onto an audition program and to see them acting like that while lacking skills is a slap in the face to any talented and hardworking trainee. Soyeon and Lisa are two idol mentors that got it right and Yoon is among them. She motivated the trainees and gave criticism. It's about balance.
THE PERFORMANCE WAS AWFUL, THE CRITICISM WAS WELL DESERVED
FOR CLAPPING LISTEN TO YOURSELF HOLY SHIT YOU THINK THESE FUTURE IDOLS CAME HERE FOR SHITS AND GIGGLES??? THEY WORK SO FUCKING HARD TO PROVE THEY BELONG THERE AND THIS IS WHAT YOU SAY???? YOU STOP OTHER CONTESTANTS THAT ALSO WORK HARD FROM CLAPPING BECAUSE THEIR PERFORMANCE WASNT GOOD ENOUGH?
You're insensitive. Please wake up and realize that. You're way too insensitive. We don't need people like you. Go away
@@ImNOTtingting_MY No one would've cared if she was being harsh in her criticisms towards their dance, singing, stage presence, etc. However, she wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance. She was getting on their case for simply clapping.
@kpopnimation THE OTHER MENTORS WERE WAY WORSE BUT NO BC YOON IS THE PROBLEM, RIGHT??
STFU BTCH
@kpopnimation i would clap and say "I'm clapping bc I feel bad"
honestly i understand why shes getting hate but at the same time you have to look at it from a different perspective. Shes a JUDGE on a SURVIVAL SHOW..bro yall keep complaining when a kpop group has idols who cant sing nor dance but get mad when judges critize those typa idols..you cant just sugarcoat everything..
I think what Yoon did was right. Because she seemed to make the contestants aware of what the kpop industry is really like. Many idols who don't perform well are not only criticized, but they also receive big insults that make them depressed. So I think Yoon wants to encourage The contestants should try harder to put on a good performance by realizing that if they still appear like that when they debut in the future, they will receive huge insults.
I also understand that other contestants applaud their friends as a form of appreciation for having the courage to perform, but who would applaud an idol who actually performed poorly like that? Won't they only receive criticism and insults?
So in my opinion, what Yoon did was right, namely by making them aware. If they could be a little better than that, maybe Yoon could tolerate it, but it was really bad, therefore Yoon really had to be firm.
not the commenters with 0 experience and 0 knowledge telling yoon shes unexperienced and unknowledgable... the call is coming from inside the house much?
GO ON EXPLAIN GEEZ does it really fucking matter if the "full" video if the problem is right here. Go on! Explain
If anything she should be getting criticised for not stopping that signal song endurance challenge or at least not speaking up about it
well she is a mentor, she need to be honest and serious- the hate is forced
All the criticism is needed for the judges as for
Daesung he barely even danced in his whole career compared to how hard and good the trainees danced And Daesung is judging them for not dancing good when they were good.
Choi Young Jun and Lee Sung Gi are not Idols and don't know the actual life of idols but scolding the trainees harshly saying "with this skill u can never be an idol" is something not acceptable.
Eunbi and Yoon are not much famous outside of Korea (as I never knew them) and they don't have much experience and as girls they never danced like male idols but judging the trainees saying "u can't be an idol if dance like this or sing like this".
They should have brought Soyeon or Lisa or CL for female judges😮💨.
While Hui, Eric and Hanhae were respectful but also strict like they should be.
Over all this show is a MESS beyond imagination 😣😒.
i mean all i saw was the clip of them dancing and i agree w/ yoon on that, it was dog water
Don't someone have the right to applaud 🤬?
Yoon be acting like she has the experience of 100 years when she only has 4 years of training and not even that much famous 🙄.
I'm only watching the show for their debut and to know them better but I just can't stand any judge except Hanhae and Hui who were the only judges that were respectful to trainees.
because of the thing where the boys danced nonstop, people are on the edge about every little thing from this show. we should be more sensible towards this show, but not THAT much. as someone whose faves have been really affected by videos taken out of context, I hope people see the whole video and realize that yoon was not being rude or whatever
Y'all do realize the judges have to play it up right? Remember when Lisa got bashed for this too lol
I don't think Yoon need any hate the real hate should be given to the other judges Yoon still had the soft spot for the trainees and I know Yoon was getting hurt inside too seeing the crying and panting contestant
But I gotta say it Yoon was kinda wrong she have to understand that they are from other countries which are not strict as Korea they are kinda used to clapping and always tries to support others specially Japan and Thailand they are not stones like Korean Celebrities
And also 1:25 This comment is actually relatable
I never seen a survival show where they criticize their clapping.
I was wondering about this before, are Eric and Yoon really "advanced" enough to be mentors on a survival show? I mean, it always has been senior kpop idols with experience in more than one field (like Solji in Boys Planet for example) or who trained their "specialty" long or professionally before becoming an idol (like The8 from seventeen, he was a dance mentor in a Chinese survival show). I like them both and I mean no hate, just that they don't feel like "authorities", mentors enough... I haven't seen the show fully yet, so maybe I am wrong. I'm just afraid that they may be "too green" in this field still, and won't be much help to the trainees, I don't know.
@CHERRYBEE_YT right. eric has 3 years from a decade of experience and yoon has almost half a decades worth...
@CHERRYBEE_YT I know that they’ve been idols for relatively long time and also trained before that, what I said is that feel bit conflicted on this matter and not that I am sure that they’re unsuitable. It’s not an attack on them
@@jennie-c8l Honestly, since The Boyz have been active for 7 years now, my unsure feelings are directed more towards Yoon.
@@yeol174 almost half a decade is a pretty long time though. i think its good to have a younger idol, because trends and other things change over time.
it scripted ik for real. yoon wasn't that negative! she always being supportive towards many artist and i dont think she would treat trainee like that!
If shes not capable of being a mentor she wouldn't be a mentor on the show 😅
I feel people are ignoring things and just blindly hating and attacking the judges, yes, in a svs it’s got to be tough, it’s a competition you shouldn’t expect to see such a light fight but I highly doubt this is all just the reality of the judges, it feels scripted and it’s even worse if you think about evil editing
I don't think clapping after performance is bad tho. Idk why she act like it's bad.
I love yoons but rhe mentors are too mean
Yoon has been doing the best for the boys and the performance was awful why should they clap?
Youre dumb + insensitive + illiterate+ endorses bullying and hate positivity. Go eat yourself
@@NswerfromMixxtopia-ei4pd but at the same time, why does it matter that they clapped? As a mentor, she should’ve just focused on giving feedback and criticism to the ones who did poorly and not bother the other trainees.
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starlight boys more like gaslight boys, whole show is a mess.
I understand..yon has had her share of bad vocals and she clapped and laughed like it was nothing. Why is she even a judge? I could see if she was an of idol, but out of all members of stayc it should’ve been Sieun. Lisa did the exact same thing when she was a mentor, but the difference is she gave constructive criticism and helped them improve. The show itself seems like it doesn’t it cares about the contestants improving.they just care about the ratings and views even if it means torturing the contestants. The only mentor on that show who was humane was Hui and even then I feel he could’ve stocked up for the contestants. I saw him fighting tears while watching them dance until they’re sick or on the verge of passing out. Toon doesn’t deserve death threats or any threats, however, all judges of this show deserve hate. The producers and directors need to be called out as well. I hope the contestants find their way and choose their health first.
Of course everyone goes after her when another dude literally backs her up.
it was probably staged and scripted for her to do that y'all quick to judge
Yoon is like the purest soul there is dawg. Crazy that people know how scripted these shows are yet still turn around and only attack the female mentor when the male mentor also criticized them.
honestly, the guys who applauded were giggling during the performance, shady asf. yoon said that, apparently calling them out for applauding a bad performance, but regardless of whether it's just courtesy or whether you only do it when it's great, clapping to the performance you were mocking is terrible. she was right (and no, I don't stan stayc)
I dont get the hate lisa was also a 4 year idol when she was a mentor in youth with you
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Every judge on Starlight boys is petty and shitty except Eric
+ Yoon, Hui & Eunbi
YOON IS LITERALLY THE MOST SWEETEST MENTOR EVER?
More childish bg stans
And you think GG Stan's are not childish? Now that is funny.
GG stans are more childish and cringe than bg stans
yeah they want to protect their oppas🤣
@@scarlotteadams8262 Korean dudes with no medical issues serve in military. Unlike wussies from other countries where weak dudes never fired a weapon in their life.
Yoon can be the best mentor!!And She is the great singer too,Just don't say anything if you don't know her!She is more experienced than you think!!
The hate Yoon is receiving smacks of misogyny, some of it internalized and coming from women who really like their delicate, young boys. This is proven by the fact that nobody cares that the male mentor agreed with her. The comment seems mild from the clip being shown and after a bad performance it probably made even more sense.
Has nobody ever seen what Soyeon did as a mentor? They are cast to play roles in these shows, one of them being that of a strict teacher. These shows are scripted and they create drama through clever editing to grab eyeballs. But that's all too much and you'd rather hate on the successful, talented young woman, wouldn't you?
Yes, Yoon is young but saying she has no experience is crazy. You semi-literate Neanderthals might not know them but Koreans love STAYC. They debuted from a small company and made it through sheer skill. If Yoon has advice for a trainee it's going to be valuable.
But you'd rather scapegoat her for all of the show's failures, wouldn't you? As if she's done war crimes. It's ridiculous. She deserves better.
@@TathD people are annoyed because her comment was super unnecessary. As a mentor, she should feel free to criticize the trainee’s performances. If she gave harsh feedback for their dance, vocals, etc. that’s fine. That’s her job. However, jumping on the other trainees for clapping was not constructive.
I stopped watching that show because it's so obvious how they're trying to attract audience through bad publicity. The narrative that they are trying to create is so toxic. This show is so scripted; this is worse than MNET's evil editing.
So... It's basically the meta of nitpicking a part of the full context, right?
its like blaming Christian Bale for something BATMAN said lmfao
Why is she a mentor tho?
I think it's the mean girl tone she says it in is what is bothering people about this, we all have seen people like this irl
I swearrr people need to actually watch the show and get context instead of basing their entire opinions on clips on twitter, like instead of jumping to conclusions, why don’t you SEE why they do certain thing and then make your judgement. From what I’ve seen Yoon and Eric have given genuine advice and only spoke up when they see an issue especially compared to other, ruder judges, like dmpo 😒
Well I'm disappointed in yall people 🙄🙄🙄🙄👎👎
Imo she deserves the hate because "why were you applauding" they can't do anything they want now? They were here to fulfill their dreams?? Right?? But not only her all the judges deserves the hate.
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Nah... I'm with Yoon on this one...
Why? That's right, you just stan her. She could chop someones hand off and you'll still be on her side. StayC is also pretty mid if compared to other girlgroups.
She just being stupid
@@DpXX9 no. she should’ve only criticized the performance and not jump of the others for clapping.
right there with u the performance was bad like really bad
Oh come on please cancel these shitty showsssss🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
The haters can go f*ck themselves, how dare they hate on Yoon?! She didn't even say anything wrong
This ! Like I understand people's anger about the show because it's clear (at least to me) that they are mistreating the contestant but Yoon asking trainees why they clapped at a disapointing performance isn't an issue. That reminded me of Soyeon telling the audience to vote for talented people, not because of visuals. Is it harsh to tell that in front of someone ? A bit yes, but you can get better at performing, especially when you're still a trainee. But debuting in a harsh industry with disapointing level of performing is going to exposed these trainees to harrassement.
@chlopee2220 Exactly, she's just doing her role as a judge/mentor,and if she's going to let them off then they'll continue with the same level of disappointment. Plus there's tonnes of other survival shows where judges have said similar or even harsher comments - it's normal.
@@chlopee2220 except that 1. Soyeon did it in a polite way and 2. The vote actually mattered because the audience was literally chosing who was surviving or not.
Here wether the contestants clap or not doesn't affect in any kind of way the ranking.
Soyeon called put the audience because it wasn't fair taht less good performances were getting more vote than the good one just because of popularity and visual. The situation is nothing like this. So comparing them is pointless.
Here they were just being respectful and clapped because that is basic etiquette. Basic respect.
And when you see how horrendously the contestants here are treated, they have every right to try to support each other by clapping to at least bring a little strength through the hell they are going through right now. They, in no way, deserved to be talked that way flr clapping. They had every right to applause the other contestants.
She wasn't criticizing the trainee's performance though. She was getting on their case for simply clapping. The hate isn't justified and we can't judge her entire personality from it, but you have to admit she was in the wrong in this situation.
The show think she's qualified as a mentor in the first place is just crazy.
almost half a decade in the industry not counting her training time is a lot