It’s a shame she doesn’t get to show off her talents as she was great! But yeah they did her so dirty and it’s a horrific industry so as you say, dodged a bullet lol
@@rollnumber1aaroheedawo836But I'm more upset with the netizens who attacked Garam first. Of course, HYBE mismanaged the situation, but my resentment towards Korean netizens who demanded Garam's departure is much greater.
Enough with the revisionist history. Kookilit was part of the hate train that got Garam kicked out. Look at their old videos. They complained about Hybe keeping her and not responding to the allegations in a timely manner. They accused them of what SM does and wait the scandal out. They would even post comments by netizens saying "why is Hybe keeping her?" "Hybe needs to kick her out!" "why did Hybe keep her as the center?" They changed their tune after it was proven that the accusations were false. This page is so shameless it's not even funny.
@@Not_Jorgefor every day individuals I agree but when using your platform to advocate for one thing then doing a complete 180 on that exact same topic is horrible for your reputation and credibility. I’m not on any side I’m just saying it’s very different for a person with influence to jump to a conclusion than your average individual.
Absolutely right.! People easily judged her because of something she did in the past and wasn't even confirmed, just based on an accusation she had to leave her group for which she might have trained really hard . But people tend to easily forget about the hardwork and just boycott a group just on a accusation. They really need to change their mindset towards idols.
@@pulkitsingh709 TBH bringing back those idols will be the best choice to make a change in this industry. Sadly fans are not united for GARAM plus it's been more than 2 years already. So it's kinda impossible for this. If any idols can come back to clear their name, and make those judgmental minds ashamed of their own words, only then this industry can change. Otherwise there will be more idols facing the same injustice and walk away swallowing up their public humiliation. Just like ONEUS Ravn, RIIZE Seughan, LE SSERAFIM Garam, AOA Jimin, (G)I-DLE Soojin, and many more will be in this list of leaving their group for unfair hates in the future.
The Koreans you see are only few paid underage girls or +30 years old unemployed boys (wich they get paid by competitors companies to tarnish reputation of competitors idols) they do not represent the general public. Many and I mean many of the general public changed their views when they read the svcr document wich she posted. There are who still hate her, but koreans kpop fans hate every single kpop idol who isn't from their fav.
😂 HYBE themselves were not insulting anyone, they simply put together a report detailing both negative and positive comments made by OTHERS, including fans, antis and media, to guage audience reactions to various Kpop groups, music style etc it was simply MARKET RESEARCH, such as ALL companies undertake. They also collated the same for all HYBE groups, this is how companies work out, when legal action needs to be taken to protect their artists or media releases need to be made. This is how they collected the information against the person spreading the rumours about Taehyung & Jungkook, , they liked the creators instagram page to be able to access the articles (hacking is ILLEGAL and items obtained in a crime can not be used as evidence) AND collect the evidence required to take legal action. The creator of the account that spread the information has received a 4 year prison term, thanks to HYBES legal Team.
nowadays bullies use “ they bully me “ and plays a role of a victim to destroy someone’s life lol , in garam’s case there were no evidence either but ton of fake pics and lies i really feel sorry for her
As a fearnot from day 1,may 2 nd,I always knew Garam was innocent,they kicked her out and it just broke my heart.I sometimes miss her and wonder what would have happened if she was still in Le Sserafim
I don't think they would have had as much hate from their vocals. She had the 3rd most lines in the Fearless EP and was usually one of the primary singers doing the harmonizing parts. Their vocals would have been much stronger and balanced if Garam was still in the group.
@@mikkaill93yes, probably MHJ mighty stay low without making a big drama and forced hate train on them. And NJ might did a collab with Le SSERAFIM. HYBE RUINED EVERYTHING.
woa woa wao!!!! it seems people literally forgot everything happened especially netizens and trynna play the good guy card Lemme tell you, both Hybe and Netizens have equal share of responsibilities in what happened to Garam. Let her be a perpetrator or a victim. Maybe both. She could have been a bully to her classmates and being bullied by netizens. When HYBE tried to deny the accusation and clear her name, didn't y'all do a whole witch hunt to ruin Garam from continuing her career. I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE SCRUTINY SHE FACED. I clearly remember how every media outlet bullied a literal minor, a literal teenager, a literal 16 years old. I REMEMBER ALL THE HASHTAGS THAT WERE TRENDED IN TWITTER/X URGING TO KICK GARAM OUT OF THE GROUP.And ofc I REMEMBER HOW Y'ALL DIDN'T HESITATE TO SPREAD THE RUMOURS OF HER USING HER FAMILY INFLUENCE AND CONNECTIONS TO CONTINUE WITH THE GROUP, when HYBE didn't kick her out quicker, all while her accusations were still not confirmed. I also clearly remember all the troll posts, reels and shorts that celebrated her departure. I remember very vividly how y'all made sure she will never stand a chance to tell her side of the story. DON'T TRY YOUR GOOD GUY PERSONA IN FRONT OF ME. I DON'T SUPPORT BULLYING, BUT SHE WAS ONLY 16 YEARS OLD, AND YOU NEVER LET HER TELL HER SIDE OF THE STORY. YOU NEVER EVEN WANTED TO KNOW THE OVERALL STORY. ALL YOU NEEDED WAS ONE ANONYMOUS ACCUSATION POST DON'T Y'ALL EVER MAKE MISTAKES? DON'T Y'ALL EVER TRIED TO MAKE UP FOR YOUR PAST MISTAKES Y'ALL DIDN'T EVEN GIVE HER A CHANCE TO REFLECT ON HERSELF, IF SHE WAS EVER IN THE WRONG HYPOCRITES!!!! UPDATE: OKAY, If y'all gonna be like "it's because we didn't know the full situation, HYBE didn't represent her well, they only watched till it get more and more attention for marketing purposes", THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I SAID BOTH HYBE AND NETIZENS HAVE EQUAL SHARE OF RESPONSIBILITIES Hybe didn't represent her well and Y'all didn't wait till the accusations get proof-check, y'all were too quick to jump in to conclusions. Y'all were so excited to go on a witch hunt against a 16-years old as if you were waiting for something like that to happen. OFC NOT TO FORGET THE RUMOUR OF HER USING FAMILY CONNECTIONS TO STAY IN THE GROUP WHEN HYBE WERE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CLEARING HER NAME AND PROOF-CHECKING THE ACCUSATIONS. You would advocate about Artists mental health on one side and then on the other side you would be the same one to criticize and cyberbully the artists on the first given chance regardless of the validity of accusations THERE'S NOTHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT BEING A CYBERBULLY FEARNOTS WERE NOT THE ONLY NETIZENS HERE I REMEMBER EVEN NON-FANS WERE HATING ON GARAM. TBH FEARNOTS WERE THE LAST PEOPLE TO GO ON A WITCH HUNT AGAINST GARAM because it affected the overall image of the group
I remember when Hybe spoke up for her and was accused of facilitating a bully...so LSF just 2 weeks being newly debuts and with all the hate Garam was receiving made sense at the time to cancel her contract...Knets would never let her breathe in peace even when the allegations turned out to be not true...
I'm so proud of myself that I never made a single hate comment about bullying since 2nd Gen. Today's social media is so Ruthless that they would write anything without knowing the whole story
What is even worse is that she was 12 at the time it happened. Like, there is a reason why the age of criminal responsibility is higher than 12 in most countries. Even if she was in the wrong (which imo she was absolutely not), she was still just a kid. It's idiotic trying to hold her accountable for something she likely would have already outgrown at that point. Either way, when someone is posting unconsensual pics of minors in their underwear, I think it's totally justified to confront them and curse them out(which is what she was punished for). In my book, the one posting the pics is the real bully, but everyone on the internet just went on a witch hunt for Garam instead. I guess netizens just really enjoy being self-righteous and reactionary. Hopefully karma catches up with them one day.
Blame kookielit, Koreaboo, and Allkpop. They drove the hate train to get Garam kicked out. Complaining about Hybe ignoring the accusers and not kicking her out fast enough. Now that she's innocent and Hybe has issues, they want to pretend that they supported her all along. These "media" outlets are faker than a $3 bill and are the gasoline pushing fans to attack idols.
The accusations were proven to be false. But HYBE has done nothing about it and terminated her contract anyway. In my opinion it's probably controversial marketing strategy, using a member's controversy to promote a new group by stirring public intrigue. They did with LSFM (Kim Garam), then next with ILLIT (Youngseo)
@@someone5132 the documents released during the audit had a comment on pre-debut illit, where they wanted to make youngseo identity “a lazy cat” to make her equal to the other members. she either found out and left afterwards or something else happen that made her leave. either way, she dodge a bullet
Lol people trying to play innocent now? When all this things were happening, everyone hated on her so much hybe could never keep her... and those leak documents? Those were comments made by netizens collected by Hybe(for why they collect comments, I dont know) Ahh the cycle of Kpop Fans, hate and destroy other peoples lives then play innocent once the truth comes out
you got jebait by the hybe ceo, hybe added in fans comment to discredit the audit. the rep refuted him since there were a lot of hybe internal email and messages and paid bots, media, payola and the some stuff in the audit was so bad the rep didn't make 70% of it public.
That's what the kpop industry do they know kpopstans are dumb af so they keep paying journalists to release drama baiting articles 😂 kpop stans need to realize they're a big part of the reason why, along with these greedy companies, kpop is falling apart
HYBE literally put out documents twice or thrice in official statements saying Garam was innocent, protecting her friend. But fans accused them of defending a bully so much that they had to relent as LSM was a new group with no fanbase established. Though I really wished they had backed Garam than removing her, but people now turning as if they had not joined the hate train against the girl without evidence is appalling.
These comments are wild. The people that are blaming Hybe are the same ones who wanted/bullied Garam out of LSF when this first happened and continued the hate train toward them for so long. Hybe can be shit, but they tried to protect Garam when the news first broke and once again, both international and Korean fans wanted her gone. Why is everyone trying to erase history?
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who saw how fans and blogs mistreated her. Now they care after THEY are the main reason she doesn't have a career in the music industry. It's sick.
It is true, but at the same time - there was NO proof of her being innocent until she showed a school document. And there was a fake info, that level 5 mean it was really extreme bullying from her site. And HYBE failed to shut this all down and present undisputed proof of her innocence. So yes, it's mostly HYBE's fault... They threw talented, hard-working teenager under the bus. Honestly if Garam will be able to have a successful career and money for a good lawyer she should sue Hybe. Poor girl...
@@K.Shelly They didn't even give her the opportunity to prove her innocence. They screamed for her head, were eventually given it, and now want to pretend as if she got a raw deal. Some of these fans want it both ways
Yeah, they wanted Garam out because all the information that was available to them pointed Garam as being a violent bully. Hybe knew the facts of the situation and could have easily revealed it to the public, but instead stayed silent and then eventually kicked her. That's not a situation to blame the public
@@Ocean-zh4ur Hybe threatened to sue the accuser. That is the forum to release that information but channels like this and blogs like Koreaboo accused them of using their power to protect a bully. It was a lose lose for all parties involved.
I’m as much of a HYBE hater as the next person, and I don’t even know what to think about this new “document”, but let’s get one thing straight; HYBE/SoMu fought TOOTH AND NAIL to keep Garam in the group, but you know what y’all said at that time? “Oh her parents must never paying a lot of money” “of course they’re defending a bully” “I wonder kinds of things she did to get this treatment” and other dirty comments. Netizens idiocracy was the main reason we lost Kim Garam, one of the best vocalists of lesserafim and an idol with amazing star power. Also before people start yelling at me about how she was only in the group for 2 weeks, that should be a testament for how much she captured so many people in such a short promotional period. Wishing her all the best for her future.
That´s exactly what I was thinking, I remember people even boycotting le sserafim cause of garam. The company could've done better but the netizens were the real villains.
They didn’t fight to keep her. They silenced her friends and family, then kicked her out and left her to deal with the situation by herself. Her friends confirmed this. Both HYBE and the public are responsible for her pain.
they do the same play over and over for buzz. next is the classic i'm a victim. don't forget the katseye doc make it seems members are bullying manon. lsf illit haters are calling them out for lipsyncing.
Where is this "fact" from??? Up ur ass?? Kpop stans making dumb and weird accusations when it costs a lot of money to debut kpop idols it's a dumb move and a huge loss for them to do the same dumb decision to debut a "problematic" idol for the sake of "buzz"
Plus, why would they give many lines to garam in their debut songs only to kick her out??? Shouldn't they have given her little lines in their songs if they were to truly kick her out??
You can blame the company if you want but who really ended her career was the fans. YES HYBE didn’t have to terminate her contract and could have done more to help her situation, but the fans literally gave them no choice because it was so much he said she said and mostly negative. Fans LOVE to blame the companies for mismanagement/mistreatment or “not protecting” the idols but in the same breath choose a side (often the wrong one) with no substantial evidence to support the claims and throw hateful messages and comments threatening boycotts. Fans are so delusional more often than not they don’t see how they contribute to the toxic environment and enable it more than anyone else in the kpop industry. I am not defending HYBE because they are garbage and truly only in it for the money but it’s like how can you be mad at HYBE when more than 70% of kpop fans bashed her daily asking for her dismissal when this was going down in real time. Like KPOP is getting WEIRD. Hopefully this is a lesson to some.
While I agree with your comment , kpop has always been weird , it’s not getting more weird because things like this have happened , I mean just look into past scandals and drama . Things are like that because of the inherent para social nature of kpop I’d say (sorry if I have grammar mistakes as English is my third langue but I hope you understand what I mean)
So true, this has happened so many times now and the community has never learned to just be less insane towards others. There needs to be a shift in the culture
@ not sure if it’ll work though because I’m a capitalistic society that we live in , this model thrives because you have fans that would do anything to either meet their idols and live in delusion because idols aren’t allowed to are to date. So I things will most likely not change as horrendous as it is
If kpop stans can literally remove riize seunghan for "having a normal life" predebut, I don't think it'd be any easier from garams bully accusation. They love to hate on the supposed bully but continue to bully the shit out of these idols, not even giving them a chance to verify it. They would've boycotted lesserafim and their rep would've been down the ditch before they even started. Her having to leave already left a mark for the group.
As someone who hates all k-pop companies they are all he same and as someone who followed garam's case from start the all blame is on fans who bullied garam for no reason people are trying divert what they had done hypocrisy at the finest also girl you should also talk about how fans are trying to boycott hybe's artists when you are talking about this matter 🙂
The most important thing is who leaked the data of Kim Garam's past, manipulated it and made a massive series of narrative to slander her and built massive public champaign to bully her so that her debut was cancelled ? Her not being in LS made LS "crippled", because she was their best vocalist. Who benefited from this situation ? I already suspect someone tho.
Hybe did the same with New Jeans tho... They leaked their private data and medical records to dispatch thinking they would get harassed but only to happen the opposite... So I believe it's same for Garam , Hybe did her dirty ..
@@bunnygirlsenpai4520 It is a lame motive. Hybe's main interest is money, not some mere delulu personal interest, such as jealousy/envious etc etc etc, as being so dedicatedly potrayed through public opinion champaign. Hybe feels betrayed. They consider NewJeans and MHJ only want to take advantage of them,ie: Use Hybe's financial system (MHJ's salary is as huge as Hybe CEO plus she personally borrowed money from the chairman), however do not want to be with them, want to be exclusive. So they want to cut off the relationship with bad blood. After all, that is the risk of borrowing/lending money or partnership.
@@bunnygirlsenpai4520 Such leak did not personally attack NewJeans member's character like Kim Garam one. Of course people were sided with NewJeans because the leak potrayed them as victims. While on the other hand, Kim Garam was potrayed as a potential criminal gangster...causing public anger towards her.
K-pop Stan’s are the worst y’all are hypocrites and play a huge role in the downfall of artists you feed in rumors without confirming if it’s true because of fan wars and later on y’all love to switch up.
With these BTS now should decide whether they will support the company or leave, because they helped to create a monster that destroys people futures now, and that's not how it should work.
For me, even if hybe's idol/groups are very talented, and i'm a big specially for Girls group ( le sserafim, newjeans and illit ) but now hybe A BIG update, personally a conglomerate agency can a good idea for a time but now hybe is about to change 1. ADOR and Hybe fight for a now several months and now Newjeans is about disband or mistreated by hybe 2. Boys group are over-worked specially TXT and henypen 3. Le Serrafim and Illit are now the most hating girl group ever and they images are now degrade 4. Now as many documents of hybe leaked, and we in it, they insulted other kpop group, now hybe image is ruined and reputation as a label who exist just for hating for nothing others kpop groups And 5. For Garam scandal hybe just didn't want to keep or to make the effort to make better her image, in this they are to many proves who makes innocent garam and it was say that the girl who was accused garam, didn't get a lawyer to accused garam but to protect herself because of the harassment campaign. This was my opinion about all this situation about hybe
I knew from the start that she is innocent and her jealous classmate who didn't want to see her success spread false rumors to bring her down but company did what others want at that time so it's not company fault but the people's who keep saying that she should leave company
No they didn't literally trying to boycott every artist because something every k-pop company does like how are you going to ruin someone who is multi millionaire they don't care but idols care they are the one going through people can't separate koop companies is biggest red flag we didn't had discourse when sm's CEO was called for enquiry for kakao like it's serious knowing so many hate train against hybe artist some other artist were allegedly done by sm 😶
@@cost7518 Other companies did something worth more than 1000 paragraphs. I'm not saying HYBE shouldn't be blamed. But the fact that no one gaf about those other companies is concerning..
@@cost7518 Other companies did things which are worth more than those 1000 paragraphs. I didn't say u shouldn't blame HYBE. It's the fact that y'all turn a blind eye when it's other companies.
They botched that investigation. I’ll admit, I believed the allegations at first because they simply couldn’t represent her well. It’s important not to leave hate because you could be wrong
The thing is HYBE is a company and had to think about the group because the public negatively wouldn't have let up and given how the kpop stans are acting now they would have done even more. I always been the type to wait for the full story which is why I hate on Garam, also the leak about other goups is something all companies do its research and a lot of the leak was edited. But im glad Garam is doing fine and wish for her to try again
Garam(LS) & Youngseo(supposed to be illit) Mhj & Ador vice CEO destroyed these girls. They keep sabotaging these group because they're scared that nj will get out shine. It's so obvious Hybe defamation started when Mhj got f*cked up & nj are scared because no one gona pay their views & album sales that's y their last comeback their views & album sales dropped so bad compared before. It's like 10 became 6💀💀
hybe loves playing the victim card with all their artist even bts if you look back at the comments. so when NJ calls them out the stanz think NJ is bully the hybe which likes to hide behind the shield called victim.
@@bluedrakken Mhj & Nj are the only employees of Hybe who complaint. Faulfinders snakes! Problematic! Celebrity syndrome! Spoiled bratz! Other Hybe artists are so professional.
And people and different RUclips accounts still insist in defending Hybe and attacking NJ, I don't like the woman who represent them but i always felt that there was a lot more to this story, because i had lost trust in Bang and Hybe a long time ago, before all this mess. SMH the music industry is like a horror movie in real life, music is not seen as before neither the artist, Garam i hope she don't feel bad, the universe was on her side.
I don't follow this scandal much, I might be wrong. But I'm VERY disappointed that they hate on the idols for "copying". It's not their choice, in this industry, we have no idea what they're forced and not forced to do.
hybe doing it on purpose to generate hate between groups and stanz so they can play the victim card. kstanz are crazy and will blame the idols over the company.
I knew hybe would kick her out eventually, so I made sure not to get attached to her too soon. I feel so bad for her. But imma say this til the end of time; DOWN WITH HYBE!!!
i literally called it. the day they kicked her out of the group, i kept saying they did that cause they want le sserafim to become more popular than the other groups and that's why hybe didnt properly defend her.
Now people Will say..aw garam was my bias from the start , I loved her from the beginning BLA BLA BLA...so many people will say the same shit...but where were you when garam was suffering from bullying accusations huh ??? She was minor right?? Why didn't you protect her??
Geez calm down, there was barely any people who trys to protect her bc more and more people hated him only until garam left the group people actually felt bad
Between the entitled fans and the record labels impossible standards I see now why some idols harm themselves under the pressure to be "perfect" she was really used by the industry and the fans played into it with outrage over a person they didn't even know
The thing is I tried saying the information about her friend getting exposed like that and the alleged victim "Eunseo" was the bully who posted that picture of Garam's friend. I said Garam defended her friend and it turned out to be even more true when she showed the documents. No one considered the fact that "Eunseo" left school to avoid punishment and Garam was the only one who faced punishment. Garam was level 5, and Eunseo was level 8. Let that sink in for all of y'all. Like I said it so many times and I saw it coming knowing what little info we had. And all the pictures were alleged. Ofc it's not enough but it was enough to show she was a loyal friend and that the alleged victim was a liar. I don't know why none of y'all bothered to listen or research and it sucks that society is like this. They either listen to the majority vote and what they wanna hear things that suit their morals. It makes no sense why nobody cared to research things, they only wanna complain without context. At the end of the day, we are all human, including idols. And we have dark pasts, companies do a background check I'm sure which is why they accepted her. It's really the company's fault because Garam had the info to back it up and asked the company to release it but they didn't. We all make mistakes and HYBE really only do what they want for fame. It's a business after all and the group gets the hate for it. We can't change history as it will continue to repeat itself over and over again. So we all need to learn how to be patient and not judge a situation. We need the whole story after all. My grammar is terrible I know, just care with me. I don't really comment on things anymore but I am tired of all the drama. I'm too overworked to care but I do still have an opinion. We all have lives and shouldn't care about idols' lives in the past cuz people can change so much in two years. Like you can be so nice and then completely change and be so mean. So at the end of the day, it's better to keep to ourselves because we don't know them personally and it's not our problem. It's all drama until other people make it a problem. So remember what you say affects people. I'm just tired of all this K-pop bs and the majority of us are adults now who shouldn't care about idols' lives. P.S. I won't reply to anyone cuz I have homework and am tired, if y'all have anything to say just say it. It will not be held against you to speak your mind as long as you are respectful. If I said something offensive I will apologize in advance as like I said, I am too tired to reply or even edit this message. Please just be respectful to each other.
Why didn’t Garam’s parents and Hybe sort out the “level 5” photo/bullying situation sooner? How is the Korean background check so shitty in such a public industry where eye rolls get you canceled?
For a kid that young, she has a strong sense of justice that is admirable in anyone. Strange how this melodramatic world has so much saviour syndrome when it comes to bullies solely because the bully happened to be a kid, but then yall won't perpetuate the same logic for the girl that called out the bully that is also kid... That company should pay back that girl for taking her time man. Hybe is a company full of muppets man... And I'm not talking about the idols...This company by not providing the truth earlier, did irrepairable damage to that girl's reputation and relationships... HYBE will build a brand of of being "fearless", and then this muppet company will backpeddle and won't allow you to be "fearless" against bullies. Bruv...🤨ok man...
Dont know if its true but garam fans say that hype wanted to make sakura n chayoung to be the centre but since the pre debut photo released garam got more recognition so hybe didn't wanted that
Why are people so surprised by what Hybe has said or the way these companies treat their artists? When you realize that these companies see these artists not as people but as products, pieces of meat that can be switched out any time for any imperfection whatsoever (pre launch), it all makes sense. We've seen so many examples of this behavior. (If you really cared for someone as a human being, you really think you could take them out in the middle of dance practice and tell them they've been kicked out of the group? Or tell a Shaman that one of your trainees looks like she's possessed? Or in the reality show sixteen the manager remarking how fat Jihyo looks right within earshot of her) After launch they do their best to beat you down mentally to keep you humble so you're easier to control and manipulate and to make you feel you could not be successful without them. The company is not interested in protecting them as people but just protecting their investment, and when it benefits the company to let that investment go or be sacrificed (case in point, Garam and Seunghan), then they will be.
The CEO is so arrogant. Karma is coming. 2024 is the year that everything is coming out. I wouldn't be surprised that BTS leave when they come back as one. I hope the BTS is name belong to them like GOT7 did.
HYBE can do no wrong just like in the HYBE newjeans scandal. They didn't do anything wrong there either. It's always the idols fault and never HYBR... Sarcasm
Wow now everyone is blaming hybe. Although hybe is not a good company, netizens are the only ones who drove garam to the edge by bullying her. It is easy to blame it on the company, when you judged her even before she could prove herself. And why are channels not mentioning that the leaked internal documents contained hate comments from netizens and someone picked only hate comments to leak? As far as I can see, I don't see hybe gain anything by ruining their own artists image....but I do suspect MHJ.
Idol industry is trash, aren't they supposed to protect theses young ladies guide them so that lead good lifestyle, and yes i know money fame come first for the company and individuals suffer. I hope for best. All idols. 🎉❤
This isn't actually new news... Hybe did the bare minimum... it was all an act, they went through the motions. Garam “raised” her voice…Yelled at a girl who was posting inappropriate photos of a friend. Maybe she said some “bad” words while “yelling”, that is why she has the “record” that she has. It even stated that there was NO physical violence. The ZERO tolerance against Bullying policy... only goes into effect when things BLOW UP, and the Bullying CAN'T be over looked. And it's often the innocent, or thoes fighting back that end up in trouble.
Hybe might have arranged the whole situation just to draw a lot of attention to Le Sserafim. Even negative attention is considered effective advertising and promoting for a recently debuted group by immature companies.
@@좋은형2 Almost all companies in the world do evil things. Like underpaying their workers and overworking people. However, positive changes are happening for all of humanity. ❤
@@brianlittrell797 Greedy yes but I dont think that stunt was really necessary. We later found out that Le sserafim's debut was rushed because Soumu was nearly losing money and they cant afford to have that scandal just for popularity.
Garam did pass the final round of competition and is now an actor student at Dongguk University.
Good for her❤
Fr@@xxmoonlightxx5742
I am happy for her
I want to see her so bad why our princess returns I will be so happy
I WANT TO SEE HER IN KDRAMAS!
"I lived my dream for 2 months "
- Kim Garam
I think it's just 2 weeks?
@@joenathanz7474 yea my bad
@@joenathanz7474it was 14 days
@@joenathanz7474More like 20,160 minutes.
2 Weeks actually
i honestly hate this industry. honestly she dodged a bullet.
Under that company yeah definitely
No, she dodged a whole nuke.
She didn't dodge the bullet, she left scathed and before any more damage could be done, she escaped.
It’s a shame she doesn’t get to show off her talents as she was great! But yeah they did her so dirty and it’s a horrific industry so as you say, dodged a bullet lol
@@Jcf990 im sure she'll get to show her talent as an actor in the future. maybe she'll get to sing ost and whatnot or debut as a soloist
she was my first bias in le sserafim
Same!! I feel so disappointed
@@rollnumber1aaroheedawo836But I'm more upset with the netizens who attacked Garam first. Of course, HYBE mismanaged the situation, but my resentment towards Korean netizens who demanded Garam's departure is much greater.
@@starx..lovelx i miss her voice on songs a lot:(
She was my only...
She still is even though she’s no more part of the group
Enough with the revisionist history. Kookilit was part of the hate train that got Garam kicked out. Look at their old videos. They complained about Hybe keeping her and not responding to the allegations in a timely manner. They accused them of what SM does and wait the scandal out. They would even post comments by netizens saying "why is Hybe keeping her?" "Hybe needs to kick her out!" "why did Hybe keep her as the center?" They changed their tune after it was proven that the accusations were false. This page is so shameless it's not even funny.
Yeah kookilit is a loser, imagine hating on a teenager without any proof
Exactly!!!!!
Because people can change opinions based on new information. It's not that deep
@@Not_Jorgefor every day individuals I agree but when using your platform to advocate for one thing then doing a complete 180 on that exact same topic is horrible for your reputation and credibility. I’m not on any side I’m just saying it’s very different for a person with influence to jump to a conclusion than your average individual.
@ okay so you want ppl to keep hating her and posting false information?
Garam dodged a huge bullet. I hope she realizes that one day.
Koreans still believe she is the bully, which is really sad and this makes those so called K-fans morally corrupt in their minds.
Absolutely right.! People easily judged her because of something she did in the past and wasn't even confirmed, just based on an accusation she had to leave her group for which she might have trained really hard . But people tend to easily forget about the hardwork and just boycott a group just on a accusation. They really need to change their mindset towards idols.
@@pulkitsingh709 TBH bringing back those idols will be the best choice to make a change in this industry. Sadly fans are not united for GARAM plus it's been more than 2 years already. So it's kinda impossible for this. If any idols can come back to clear their name, and make those judgmental minds ashamed of their own words, only then this industry can change. Otherwise there will be more idols facing the same injustice and walk away swallowing up their public humiliation. Just like ONEUS Ravn, RIIZE Seughan, LE SSERAFIM Garam, AOA Jimin, (G)I-DLE Soojin, and many more will be in this list of leaving their group for unfair hates in the future.
The Koreans you see are only few paid underage girls or +30 years old unemployed boys (wich they get paid by competitors companies to tarnish reputation of competitors idols) they do not represent the general public.
Many and I mean many of the general public changed their views when they read the svcr document wich she posted.
There are who still hate her, but koreans kpop fans hate every single kpop idol who isn't from their fav.
Really Korean people are really dark minded 😢
@@AP-fi2di just look at soojin comeback. those kstanz wish she dissappear than to admit they were wrong. those ksanz aren't human they are shameless.
GARAM DESERVES THE BIGGEST APPOLOGY❣️
YES
Wtf you guy's not gonna change what she did at first hand ok？？so it's just hybe isn't good enough either ...both sucks
@@PP-js1qx what did she do except defending her friend friend from bullying?? Are you still living in 2022. Update your facts
I heard they sent r@pe threats
@@PP-js1qxRe educate yourself, and know your place. RUBBISH
karma is getting hybe and i love it
what they did to their girl groups is not ok
😂 HYBE themselves were not insulting anyone, they simply put together a report detailing both negative and positive comments made by OTHERS, including fans, antis and media, to guage audience reactions to various Kpop groups, music style etc it was simply MARKET RESEARCH, such as ALL companies undertake.
They also collated the same for all HYBE groups, this is how companies work out, when legal action needs to be taken to protect their artists or media releases need to be made. This is how they collected the information against the person spreading the rumours about Taehyung & Jungkook, , they liked the creators instagram page to be able to access the articles (hacking is ILLEGAL and items obtained in a crime can not be used as evidence) AND collect the evidence required to take legal action. The creator of the account that spread the information has received a 4 year prison term, thanks to HYBES legal Team.
Karma ur ass...... now u want garam back when hybe protected the gurl until they r threatend.. this pahe is so dumb
@@DdDd-li7mm when did i say tht?
@@DdDd-li7mmhow was Hybe threatened? They afraid of teenage fans?
nowadays bullies use “ they bully me “ and plays a role of a victim to destroy someone’s life lol , in garam’s case there were no evidence either but ton of fake pics and lies i really feel sorry for her
Justice for Garam !!!
I'm not surprised that hybe could do these things.....I'm glad Garam is okay even though I don't know her to well😊
Hybe becoming darker and darker 😮
They’ve always been dark. It’s just that now their dirty secrets are coming to light.
it getting worst
It was sweetie
Sad but true
Baby that's not hybe that's the pop industry
As a fearnot from day 1,may 2 nd,I always knew Garam was innocent,they kicked her out and it just broke my heart.I sometimes miss her and wonder what would have happened if she was still in Le Sserafim
I don't think they would have had as much hate from their vocals. She had the 3rd most lines in the Fearless EP and was usually one of the primary singers doing the harmonizing parts. Their vocals would have been much stronger and balanced if Garam was still in the group.
Agreed. She would’ve elevated the groups overall vocal skills and prob wouldn’t get as much hate towards it
@@mikkaill93yes, probably MHJ mighty stay low without making a big drama and forced hate train on them. And NJ might did a collab with Le SSERAFIM. HYBE RUINED EVERYTHING.
@@mikkaill93she was not a good vocalist, she just had a pretty tone
More revisionist than facts, I still remember the anti fans hounded Kim Garam like a dog now acting like they were on her side all these years lmao 🤡
she was a victim
woa woa wao!!!! it seems people literally forgot everything happened especially netizens and trynna play the good guy card
Lemme tell you, both Hybe and Netizens have equal share of responsibilities in what happened to Garam. Let her be a perpetrator or a victim. Maybe both. She could have been a bully to her classmates and being bullied by netizens. When HYBE tried to deny the accusation and clear her name, didn't y'all do a whole witch hunt to ruin Garam from continuing her career. I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE SCRUTINY SHE FACED. I clearly remember how every media outlet bullied a literal minor, a literal teenager, a literal 16 years old. I REMEMBER ALL THE HASHTAGS THAT WERE TRENDED IN TWITTER/X URGING TO KICK GARAM OUT OF THE GROUP.And ofc I REMEMBER HOW Y'ALL DIDN'T HESITATE TO SPREAD THE RUMOURS OF HER USING HER FAMILY INFLUENCE AND CONNECTIONS TO CONTINUE WITH THE GROUP, when HYBE didn't kick her out quicker, all while her accusations were still not confirmed. I also clearly remember all the troll posts, reels and shorts that celebrated her departure. I remember very vividly how y'all made sure she will never stand a chance to tell her side of the story. DON'T TRY YOUR GOOD GUY PERSONA IN FRONT OF ME.
I DON'T SUPPORT BULLYING, BUT SHE WAS ONLY 16 YEARS OLD, AND YOU NEVER LET HER TELL HER SIDE OF THE STORY. YOU NEVER EVEN WANTED TO KNOW THE OVERALL STORY. ALL YOU NEEDED WAS ONE ANONYMOUS ACCUSATION POST
DON'T Y'ALL EVER MAKE MISTAKES? DON'T Y'ALL EVER TRIED TO MAKE UP FOR YOUR PAST MISTAKES
Y'ALL DIDN'T EVEN GIVE HER A CHANCE TO REFLECT ON HERSELF, IF SHE WAS EVER IN THE WRONG
HYPOCRITES!!!!
UPDATE: OKAY, If y'all gonna be like "it's because we didn't know the full situation, HYBE didn't represent her well, they only watched till it get more and more attention for marketing purposes", THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I SAID BOTH HYBE AND NETIZENS HAVE EQUAL SHARE OF RESPONSIBILITIES
Hybe didn't represent her well and Y'all didn't wait till the accusations get proof-check, y'all were too quick to jump in to conclusions. Y'all were so excited to go on a witch hunt against a 16-years old as if you were waiting for something like that to happen. OFC NOT TO FORGET THE RUMOUR OF HER USING FAMILY CONNECTIONS TO STAY IN THE GROUP WHEN HYBE WERE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CLEARING HER NAME AND PROOF-CHECKING THE ACCUSATIONS.
You would advocate about Artists mental health on one side and then on the other side you would be the same one to criticize and cyberbully the artists on the first given chance regardless of the validity of accusations
THERE'S NOTHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT BEING A CYBERBULLY
FEARNOTS WERE NOT THE ONLY NETIZENS HERE I REMEMBER EVEN NON-FANS WERE HATING ON GARAM. TBH FEARNOTS WERE THE LAST PEOPLE TO GO ON A WITCH HUNT AGAINST GARAM because it affected the overall image of the group
She had soo many evil edits made of her too
I remember when Hybe spoke up for her and was accused of facilitating a bully...so LSF just 2 weeks being newly debuts and with all the hate Garam was receiving made sense at the time to cancel her contract...Knets would never let her breathe in peace even when the allegations turned out to be not true...
I'm so proud of myself that I never made a single hate comment about bullying since 2nd Gen. Today's social media is so Ruthless that they would write anything without knowing the whole story
What is even worse is that she was 12 at the time it happened. Like, there is a reason why the age of criminal responsibility is higher than 12 in most countries. Even if she was in the wrong (which imo she was absolutely not), she was still just a kid. It's idiotic trying to hold her accountable for something she likely would have already outgrown at that point. Either way, when someone is posting unconsensual pics of minors in their underwear, I think it's totally justified to confront them and curse them out(which is what she was punished for). In my book, the one posting the pics is the real bully, but everyone on the internet just went on a witch hunt for Garam instead.
I guess netizens just really enjoy being self-righteous and reactionary. Hopefully karma catches up with them one day.
I remember too! Never forget the injustice done to Garam
Hybe 1000 pages document leaked but we just find out 20 pages .....980 pages are still on waiting leaked list 😂....Hybe the end game😂
the rep said they're aren't gonna make it public since its real bad.
So sad for Kim Garam. She had the IT girl aura, would've put her at par with Karina and Wonyoung for 4th Gen.
That poor girl she's the prettiest in the group and had a good voice too..what a waste
Blame kookielit, Koreaboo, and Allkpop. They drove the hate train to get Garam kicked out. Complaining about Hybe ignoring the accusers and not kicking her out fast enough. Now that she's innocent and Hybe has issues, they want to pretend that they supported her all along. These "media" outlets are faker than a $3 bill and are the gasoline pushing fans to attack idols.
Me too she was my first bias , I really wanna see her again I agree she was the prettiest in the group😢
saying she was the prettiest in the group is honestly unnecessary they're all beautiful 😂
@@punkin3599right, what is they on?
cant agree, all le sserafim memebrs aer pretty. Theres no competetion.
The accusations were proven to be false. But HYBE has done nothing about it and terminated her contract anyway. In my opinion it's probably controversial marketing strategy, using a member's controversy to promote a new group by stirring public intrigue. They did with LSFM (Kim Garam), then next with ILLIT (Youngseo)
If hybe actually did do this than I would be shocked that a company would almost ruin someones live just to promote a group like that’s insane
I think youngseo left illit cause she somehow got to know about the hybe dirty plan to frame her as a bad person to promote illit
@@someone5132 the documents released during the audit had a comment on pre-debut illit, where they wanted to make youngseo identity “a lazy cat” to make her equal to the other members. she either found out and left afterwards or something else happen that made her leave. either way, she dodge a bullet
@alessgoesaway agreed
@@someone5132 We would never know unless the former idols come out themselves and spill the beans. For now, everything's just pure speculation
Lol people trying to play innocent now? When all this things were happening, everyone hated on her so much hybe could never keep her... and those leak documents? Those were comments made by netizens collected by Hybe(for why they collect comments, I dont know)
Ahh the cycle of Kpop Fans, hate and destroy other peoples lives then play innocent once the truth comes out
Seriously even this channel was a part of the hate train and its disgusting how they’re acting now.
They collect those comments for their Market research which every company does.
you got jebait by the hybe ceo, hybe added in fans comment to discredit the audit. the rep refuted him since there were a lot of hybe internal email and messages and paid bots, media, payola and the some stuff in the audit was so bad the rep didn't make 70% of it public.
That's what the kpop industry do they know kpopstans are dumb af so they keep paying journalists to release drama baiting articles 😂 kpop stans need to realize they're a big part of the reason why, along with these greedy companies, kpop is falling apart
I was always on Garams side! I wish nothing but success for that beautiful girl ❤
HYBE literally put out documents twice or thrice in official statements saying Garam was innocent, protecting her friend. But fans accused them of defending a bully so much that they had to relent as LSM was a new group with no fanbase established. Though I really wished they had backed Garam than removing her, but people now turning as if they had not joined the hate train against the girl without evidence is appalling.
I guess we all can agree that Hybe has bad luck with female groups ever since the first group ever!!🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
blaming netz! and hybe both!
garam deserves so much better
These comments are wild. The people that are blaming Hybe are the same ones who wanted/bullied Garam out of LSF when this first happened and continued the hate train toward them for so long. Hybe can be shit, but they tried to protect Garam when the news first broke and once again, both international and Korean fans wanted her gone. Why is everyone trying to erase history?
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who saw how fans and blogs mistreated her. Now they care after THEY are the main reason she doesn't have a career in the music industry. It's sick.
It is true, but at the same time - there was NO proof of her being innocent until she showed a school document. And there was a fake info, that level 5 mean it was really extreme bullying from her site. And HYBE failed to shut this all down and present undisputed proof of her innocence.
So yes, it's mostly HYBE's fault... They threw talented, hard-working teenager under the bus. Honestly if Garam will be able to have a successful career and money for a good lawyer she should sue Hybe. Poor girl...
@@K.Shelly They didn't even give her the opportunity to prove her innocence. They screamed for her head, were eventually given it, and now want to pretend as if she got a raw deal. Some of these fans want it both ways
Yeah, they wanted Garam out because all the information that was available to them pointed Garam as being a violent bully. Hybe knew the facts of the situation and could have easily revealed it to the public, but instead stayed silent and then eventually kicked her. That's not a situation to blame the public
@@Ocean-zh4ur Hybe threatened to sue the accuser. That is the forum to release that information but channels like this and blogs like Koreaboo accused them of using their power to protect a bully. It was a lose lose for all parties involved.
I’m as much of a HYBE hater as the next person, and I don’t even know what to think about this new “document”, but let’s get one thing straight;
HYBE/SoMu fought TOOTH AND NAIL to keep Garam in the group, but you know what y’all said at that time? “Oh her parents must never paying a lot of money” “of course they’re defending a bully” “I wonder kinds of things she did to get this treatment” and other dirty comments. Netizens idiocracy was the main reason we lost Kim Garam, one of the best vocalists of lesserafim and an idol with amazing star power.
Also before people start yelling at me about how she was only in the group for 2 weeks, that should be a testament for how much she captured so many people in such a short promotional period. Wishing her all the best for her future.
That´s exactly what I was thinking, I remember people even boycotting le sserafim cause of garam. The company could've done better but the netizens were the real villains.
They didn’t fight to keep her. They silenced her friends and family, then kicked her out and left her to deal with the situation by herself. Her friends confirmed this. Both HYBE and the public are responsible for her pain.
and the fact that hybe planned to do that to youngseo.
they do the same play over and over for buzz. next is the classic i'm a victim. don't forget the katseye doc make it seems members are bullying manon. lsf illit haters are calling them out for lipsyncing.
Where is this "fact" from??? Up ur ass?? Kpop stans making dumb and weird accusations when it costs a lot of money to debut kpop idols it's a dumb move and a huge loss for them to do the same dumb decision to debut a "problematic" idol for the sake of "buzz"
Plus, why would they give many lines to garam in their debut songs only to kick her out??? Shouldn't they have given her little lines in their songs if they were to truly kick her out??
You can blame the company if you want but who really ended her career was the fans. YES HYBE didn’t have to terminate her contract and could have done more to help her situation, but the fans literally gave them no choice because it was so much he said she said and mostly negative. Fans LOVE to blame the companies for mismanagement/mistreatment or “not protecting” the idols but in the same breath choose a side (often the wrong one) with no substantial evidence to support the claims and throw hateful messages and comments threatening boycotts. Fans are so delusional more often than not they don’t see how they contribute to the toxic environment and enable it more than anyone else in the kpop industry. I am not defending HYBE because they are garbage and truly only in it for the money but it’s like how can you be mad at HYBE when more than 70% of kpop fans bashed her daily asking for her dismissal when this was going down in real time. Like KPOP is getting WEIRD. Hopefully this is a lesson to some.
While I agree with your comment , kpop has always been weird , it’s not getting more weird because things like this have happened , I mean just look into past scandals and drama . Things are like that because of the inherent para social nature of kpop I’d say
(sorry if I have grammar mistakes as English is my third langue but I hope you understand what I mean)
So true, this has happened so many times now and the community has never learned to just be less insane towards others. There needs to be a shift in the culture
@ not sure if it’ll work though because I’m a capitalistic society that we live in , this model thrives because you have fans that would do anything to either meet their idols and live in delusion because idols aren’t allowed to are to date. So I things will most likely not change as horrendous as it is
If kpop stans can literally remove riize seunghan for "having a normal life" predebut, I don't think it'd be any easier from garams bully accusation. They love to hate on the supposed bully but continue to bully the shit out of these idols, not even giving them a chance to verify it. They would've boycotted lesserafim and their rep would've been down the ditch before they even started. Her having to leave already left a mark for the group.
@@okakaaa96 this!!!!!
As someone who hates all k-pop companies they are all he same and as someone who followed garam's case from start the all blame is on fans who bullied garam for no reason people are trying divert what they had done hypocrisy at the finest also girl you should also talk about how fans are trying to boycott hybe's artists when you are talking about this matter 🙂
The most important thing is who leaked the data of Kim Garam's past, manipulated it and made a massive series of narrative to slander her and built massive public champaign to bully her so that her debut was cancelled ? Her not being in LS made LS "crippled", because she was their best vocalist. Who benefited from this situation ? I already suspect someone tho.
Hybe did the same with New Jeans tho... They leaked their private data and medical records to dispatch thinking they would get harassed but only to happen the opposite...
So I believe it's same for Garam , Hybe did her dirty ..
@@bunnygirlsenpai4520 It is a lame motive. Hybe's main interest is money, not some mere delulu personal interest, such as jealousy/envious etc etc etc, as being so dedicatedly potrayed through public opinion champaign. Hybe feels betrayed. They consider NewJeans and MHJ only want to take advantage of them,ie: Use Hybe's financial system (MHJ's salary is as huge as Hybe CEO plus she personally borrowed money from the chairman), however do not want to be with them, want to be exclusive. So they want to cut off the relationship with bad blood. After all, that is the risk of borrowing/lending money or partnership.
@@bunnygirlsenpai4520 Such leak did not personally attack NewJeans member's character like Kim Garam one. Of course people were sided with NewJeans because the leak potrayed them as victims. While on the other hand, Kim Garam was potrayed as a potential criminal gangster...causing public anger towards her.
K-pop Stan’s are the worst y’all are hypocrites and play a huge role in the downfall of artists you feed in rumors without confirming if it’s true because of fan wars and later on y’all love to switch up.
my garam getting her justice after 2 years :( ❤
None of hybe or herself are nicer person ok？😂u get the point ？or just bite around the bush？
@@PP-js1qx or herself what did she do to you?😂
With these BTS now should decide whether they will support the company or leave, because they helped to create a monster that destroys people futures now, and that's not how it should work.
Why leave BTS make Assss happy
@@en2347 what.. learn to read and write
For me, even if hybe's idol/groups are very talented, and i'm a big specially for Girls group ( le sserafim, newjeans and illit ) but now hybe A BIG update, personally a conglomerate agency can a good idea for a time but now hybe is about to change
1. ADOR and Hybe fight for a now several months and now Newjeans is about disband or mistreated by hybe
2. Boys group are over-worked specially TXT and henypen
3. Le Serrafim and Illit are now the most hating girl group ever and they images are now degrade
4. Now as many documents of hybe leaked, and we in it, they insulted other kpop group, now hybe image is ruined and reputation as a label who exist just for hating for nothing others kpop groups
And 5. For Garam scandal hybe just didn't want to keep or to make the effort to make better her image, in this they are to many proves who makes innocent garam and it was say that the girl who was accused garam, didn't get a lawyer to accused garam but to protect herself because of the harassment campaign.
This was my opinion about all this situation about hybe
It all started on my birthday 0:15
Owww
Sorry.for you
On my 11th bday
Dang I relate different tragedy but relatable
That’s my cousins bday
hybe never beating the gg curse allegations💀
We believe in music❌ We believe in mistreatment✅
poor garam
I can’t believe people are still supporting Hybe after all of these revelations. It’s actually absurd
because deep down they are just like hybe.
She was my first bias i miss her so much😢❤
Youngseo narrowly escaped this exact situation. I really hate HYBE so much for doing this to both Garam and Youngseo.
I knew from the start that she is innocent and her jealous classmate who didn't want to see her success spread false rumors to bring her down but company did what others want at that time so it's not company fault but the people's who keep saying that she should leave company
Tbh, we could find out HYBE has trainees locked in a basement cage and company stans would still support them. 🙄
just look at them attack bts members to support hybe. lol
HELL YEAH, THEY'RE TO BLAIM! Why the hell do you think they said "we'll take legal action" and did nothing!
Well HYBE's 🗑️, we can all agree on that. Where was the same energy when other companies got exposed though?
@@naegabyeonnhae other companies get exposed for one or two thing not for whole fu*king thousand paragraph 😵 hating on other idols
yeah
No they didn't literally trying to boycott every artist because something every k-pop company does like how are you going to ruin someone who is multi millionaire they don't care but idols care they are the one going through people can't separate koop companies is biggest red flag we didn't had discourse when sm's CEO was called for enquiry for kakao like it's serious knowing so many hate train against hybe artist some other artist were allegedly done by sm 😶
@@cost7518 Other companies did something worth more than 1000 paragraphs. I'm not saying HYBE shouldn't be blamed. But the fact that no one gaf about those other companies is concerning..
@@cost7518 Other companies did things which are worth more than those 1000 paragraphs. I didn't say u shouldn't blame HYBE. It's the fact that y'all turn a blind eye when it's other companies.
Hybe use garam to beat İve from starship and to get famous too...but failed
I miss Kim Garam honestly
But you are the one who bullied her though...
I can't stan GG's from HYBE anymore, from Glam to Gfriend to Sserafim, it is getting worse
Why don't netizen call out 'HYBE'?
They did and still do
@@lee_27_nam netizen yes, knetizen no
If hybe says, "Sun comes up in east," maybe it comes up in west
Can you talk about joshua case and seungkwan speaking up
They botched that investigation. I’ll admit, I believed the allegations at first because they simply couldn’t represent her well. It’s important not to leave hate because you could be wrong
The thing is HYBE is a company and had to think about the group because the public negatively wouldn't have let up and given how the kpop stans are acting now they would have done even more. I always been the type to wait for the full story which is why I hate on Garam, also the leak about other goups is something all companies do its research and a lot of the leak was edited. But im glad Garam is doing fine and wish for her to try again
NewJeans has been fighting all alone and we refused to believe them 😭😭😭
🤧
Garam(LS) & Youngseo(supposed to be illit) Mhj & Ador vice CEO destroyed these girls. They keep sabotaging these group because they're scared that nj will get out shine. It's so obvious Hybe defamation started when Mhj got f*cked up & nj are scared because no one gona pay their views & album sales that's y their last comeback their views & album sales dropped so bad compared before. It's like 10 became 6💀💀
Cause they are spoilt brats just like you! Princess syndrome😂
hybe loves playing the victim card with all their artist even bts if you look back at the comments. so when NJ calls them out the stanz think NJ is bully the hybe which likes to hide behind the shield called victim.
@@bluedrakken Mhj & Nj are the only employees of Hybe who complaint. Faulfinders snakes! Problematic! Celebrity syndrome! Spoiled bratz! Other Hybe artists are so professional.
And people and different RUclips accounts still insist in defending Hybe and attacking NJ, I don't like the woman who represent them but i always felt that there was a lot more to this story, because i had lost trust in Bang and Hybe a long time ago, before all this mess. SMH the music industry is like a horror movie in real life, music is not seen as before neither the artist, Garam i hope she don't feel bad, the universe was on her side.
Lucky she's didn't in HYBE now.
We hate Hybe we love
Lesserafim ot6
Newjeans
ILLIT
…..
yup
I don't follow this scandal much, I might be wrong. But I'm VERY disappointed that they hate on the idols for "copying". It's not their choice, in this industry, we have no idea what they're forced and not forced to do.
hybe doing it on purpose to generate hate between groups and stanz so they can play the victim card. kstanz are crazy and will blame the idols over the company.
@bluedrakken Fr but it's not only with hybe
I knew hybe would kick her out eventually, so I made sure not to get attached to her too soon. I feel so bad for her. But imma say this til the end of time; DOWN WITH HYBE!!!
I wish I was as smart as you lmao 🥲 very much got attached to her
i literally called it. the day they kicked her out of the group, i kept saying they did that cause they want le sserafim to become more popular than the other groups and that's why hybe didnt properly defend her.
Now people Will say..aw garam was my bias from the start , I loved her from the beginning BLA BLA BLA...so many people will say the same shit...but where were you when garam was suffering from bullying accusations huh ??? She was minor right?? Why didn't you protect her??
Geez calm down, there was barely any people who trys to protect her bc more and more people hated him only until garam left the group people actually felt bad
Between the entitled fans and the record labels impossible standards I see now why some idols harm themselves under the pressure to be "perfect" she was really used by the industry and the fans played into it with outrage over a person they didn't even know
The thing is I tried saying the information about her friend getting exposed like that and the alleged victim "Eunseo" was the bully who posted that picture of Garam's friend. I said Garam defended her friend and it turned out to be even more true when she showed the documents. No one considered the fact that "Eunseo" left school to avoid punishment and Garam was the only one who faced punishment. Garam was level 5, and Eunseo was level 8. Let that sink in for all of y'all. Like I said it so many times and I saw it coming knowing what little info we had.
And all the pictures were alleged. Ofc it's not enough but it was enough to show she was a loyal friend and that the alleged victim was a liar. I don't know why none of y'all bothered to listen or research and it sucks that society is like this. They either listen to the majority vote and what they wanna hear things that suit their morals.
It makes no sense why nobody cared to research things, they only wanna complain without context.
At the end of the day, we are all human, including idols. And we have dark pasts, companies do a background check I'm sure which is why they accepted her. It's really the company's fault because Garam had the info to back it up and asked the company to release it but they didn't.
We all make mistakes and HYBE really only do what they want for fame. It's a business after all and the group gets the hate for it.
We can't change history as it will continue to repeat itself over and over again. So we all need to learn how to be patient and not judge a situation. We need the whole story after all.
My grammar is terrible I know, just care with me. I don't really comment on things anymore but I am tired of all the drama. I'm too overworked to care but I do still have an opinion. We all have lives and shouldn't care about idols' lives in the past cuz people can change so much in two years.
Like you can be so nice and then completely change and be so mean. So at the end of the day, it's better to keep to ourselves because we don't know them personally and it's not our problem. It's all drama until other people make it a problem. So remember what you say affects people.
I'm just tired of all this K-pop bs and the majority of us are adults now who shouldn't care about idols' lives.
P.S. I won't reply to anyone cuz I have homework and am tired, if y'all have anything to say just say it. It will not be held against you to speak your mind as long as you are respectful. If I said something offensive I will apologize in advance as like I said, I am too tired to reply or even edit this message.
Please just be respectful to each other.
History repeat itself her situation is like soojin and no one noticed abt it
That topic was also popular when soojin was kicked out. Everybody was talking about it wth do you mean???
How can they do that to young girls like garamm !!!!!😠
Sickening, but not surprising. I guess this just shows what everybody thought, these companies don't care about their idols at all.
No wonder why Chaewon said "Get away" during the "Fearless" concert
Why didn’t Garam’s parents and Hybe sort out the “level 5” photo/bullying situation sooner? How is the Korean background check so shitty in such a public industry where eye rolls get you canceled?
For a kid that young, she has a strong sense of justice that is admirable in anyone. Strange how this melodramatic world has so much saviour syndrome when it comes to bullies solely because the bully happened to be a kid, but then yall won't perpetuate the same logic for the girl that called out the bully that is also kid... That company should pay back that girl for taking her time man.
Hybe is a company full of muppets man... And I'm not talking about the idols...This company by not providing the truth earlier, did irrepairable damage to that girl's reputation and relationships...
HYBE will build a brand of of being "fearless", and then this muppet company will backpeddle and won't allow you to be "fearless" against bullies. Bruv...🤨ok man...
Fans bullying then accuse label compagnies...make it make sense...
And that probably why young seo left illit cuz she knew they were trying to sabotage her for the groups popularity
Hope she became successful more than LS as it will be a slap to Hybe later. No hate to LS.
Dont know if its true but garam fans say that hype wanted to make sakura n chayoung to be the centre but since the pre debut photo released garam got more recognition so hybe didn't wanted that
i wish Kim Garam success!!!
Why are people so surprised by what Hybe has said or the way these companies treat their artists? When you realize that these companies see these artists not as people but as products, pieces of meat that can be switched out any time for any imperfection whatsoever (pre launch), it all makes sense. We've seen so many examples of this behavior. (If you really cared for someone as a human being, you really think you could take them out in the middle of dance practice and tell them they've been kicked out of the group? Or tell a Shaman that one of your trainees looks like she's possessed? Or in the reality show sixteen the manager remarking how fat Jihyo looks right within earshot of her) After launch they do their best to beat you down mentally to keep you humble so you're easier to control and manipulate and to make you feel you could not be successful without them. The company is not interested in protecting them as people but just protecting their investment, and when it benefits the company to let that investment go or be sacrificed (case in point, Garam and Seunghan), then they will be.
The CEO is so arrogant. Karma is coming. 2024 is the year that everything is coming out. I wouldn't be surprised that BTS leave when they come back as one. I hope the BTS is name belong to them like GOT7 did.
This situation is similar to the Soojin situation
Hybe is truly vile. Disgusting behavior
IT WAS ALL HYBE’S FAULT
HYBE is really disgusting.
Ok but why did they do garam like that garam was my bias I miss her so much
*Anywho* There is no way to make all ppl want your company go bankrupt.
*Bang Si-hyuk* Hold my beer.
HYBE can do no wrong just like in the HYBE newjeans scandal. They didn't do anything wrong there either. It's always the idols fault and never HYBR...
Sarcasm
Hybe is Beyonce of kpop
i always believed her... how can u trust a company pfff
Idk what to say...
Wow now everyone is blaming hybe. Although hybe is not a good company, netizens are the only ones who drove garam to the edge by bullying her. It is easy to blame it on the company, when you judged her even before she could prove herself. And why are channels not mentioning that the leaked internal documents contained hate comments from netizens and someone picked only hate comments to leak? As far as I can see, I don't see hybe gain anything by ruining their own artists image....but I do suspect MHJ.
Idol industry is trash, aren't they supposed to protect theses young ladies guide them so that lead good lifestyle, and yes i know money fame come first for the company and individuals suffer. I hope for best. All idols. 🎉❤
Chaewon's bestie 💔
how it all comes back to what I affirmed backwhen
She's somewhat dodged a bullet, look at HYBE now lol
This isn't actually new news...
Hybe did the bare minimum... it was all an act, they went through the motions.
Garam “raised” her voice…Yelled at a girl who was posting inappropriate photos of a friend. Maybe she said some “bad” words while “yelling”, that is why she has the “record” that she has. It even stated that there was NO physical violence.
The ZERO tolerance against Bullying policy... only goes into effect when things BLOW UP, and the Bullying CAN'T be over looked. And it's often the innocent, or thoes fighting back that end up in trouble.
Some fully grown up adults destroyed a 16 year old career for attention 😢
Hybe is sick
This is so sad
Hybe might have arranged the whole situation just to draw a lot of attention to Le Sserafim. Even negative attention is considered effective advertising and promoting for a recently debuted group by immature companies.
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@@좋은형2 Almost all companies in the world do evil things. Like underpaying their workers and overworking people. However, positive changes are happening for all of humanity. ❤
Why would hybe need that kind of stunt when le sserafim have former iz*one members chaewon and sakura?
@@chocolat4193 Because Hybe is like many companies and is greedy and always wants more attention and more money. They are never satisfied.
@@brianlittrell797 Greedy yes but I dont think that stunt was really necessary. We later found out that Le sserafim's debut was rushed because Soumu was nearly losing money and they cant afford to have that scandal just for popularity.