Absolutely brilliant. Karp brings perspectives to the story that create such synergy with the perspectives of the great Prof. Foner. Crucial to listen to both! Thank you for providing the world with this superlative series of interviews with great historians.
1. I think Harriet Beecher Stowe and her book changed the opinion about slavery system in the North, mainly at the women readers who had some effect in the families. Uncle Tom's Cabin showed a peacful solution for a step by step abolution, so many people wanted to stop the slavery system spreeding in North after reading this book. 2. The abolutionism was a minority movements from East Pennsylvania, in New England in one of a part of East Ohio about 1830. The mid west states were founded by Southerners from Kentucky, Tenneessee, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware and North Carolina. A less part of people arrived from the Central states and a minority arrived from New England between 1800-1830. Ohio got more people from North (So it is undestandable general Grant's family was abolutionist in Ohio. Lincoln family arrived from Kentucky to Indiana and later in Illinois. In Illinois there was movent to change the state into slave system state only this ended in 1844. The New englander people arrived after 1830 in the Middle West and Eliya Parish Lovejoy fro m New England was killed by proslavery mob in 1837 in illinois in Altona after he was chesed away from St.Louis Missouri. 3. North East migration changed Mid West to be antyslavery states. Missouri (slavery system state) voted Abraham Lincoln with 10% in 1860. Some Southerner originated as Lincoln became antislavery from 1830 to 1860. 4. The United Kingdom abolished the slavery system in 1836 and France in 1848 and the 2 main naval powers lost any main interest about slavery system moreover Canadian possibility started the Undergroundrairoad.
@avena Good points. Britain 's abolition of the slave TRADE in 1808 was extremely important because of the enormous economic impact. The percentage of English Quakers and German Amish was much more significant in those days in the northeastern states before the US population boomed with huge immigration of the latter part of the 19thcentury, and was overwhelmingly anti- Slavery. I think the Underground Railroad movement also had a much greater effect on Northern political opinion than is generally known. Plenty of racist attitudes existed in the North, BUT most people there were still very much against the institution of slavery. This paradox is not well understood today, but it's crucial to US history.
The "State Rights" meant not only the slavery system alone but a lot of The Southern states forbade the FREE SPEECH! The debate about slavery system was forbiden in a lot of Southern states. The first proslavery constitution also forbade the Free Speech about slavery system in Kansas!
Not all Southern states forbade Lincoln. 10% of Missoury voted to Lincoln in 1860, as St Louis and a other low slave populated county were won by Lincoln. In Virginia Lincoln almost won Hanckock county (nowday West Virginia) in 1860. In Delaware Lincoln got high % vote. Maryland and Kentucky had low % Lincoln voters. ETERNAL SHAME FOR THE DEEP SOUTH LINCOLN WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT in 1860. So Nobody knew how many brave people were in the South! I think the result would have been similar to the Kentucky result if the Deep South had not forbade Lincoln from the Ballot.
Absolutely brilliant. Karp brings perspectives to the story that create such synergy with the perspectives of the great Prof. Foner. Crucial to listen to both! Thank you for providing the world with this superlative series of interviews with great historians.
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1. I think Harriet Beecher Stowe and her book changed the opinion about slavery system in the North, mainly at the women readers who had some effect in the families. Uncle Tom's Cabin showed a peacful solution for a step by step abolution, so many people wanted to stop the slavery system spreeding in North after reading this book.
2. The abolutionism was a minority movements from East Pennsylvania, in New England in one of a part of East Ohio about 1830. The mid west states were founded by Southerners from Kentucky, Tenneessee, Virginia, Maryland, Delaware and North Carolina. A less part of people arrived from the Central states and a minority arrived from New England between 1800-1830. Ohio got more people from North (So it is undestandable general Grant's family was abolutionist in Ohio. Lincoln family arrived from Kentucky to Indiana and later in Illinois.
In Illinois there was movent to change the state into slave system state only this ended in 1844. The New englander people arrived after 1830 in the Middle West and Eliya Parish Lovejoy fro m New England was killed by proslavery mob in 1837 in illinois in Altona after he was chesed away from St.Louis Missouri.
3. North East migration changed Mid West to be antyslavery states. Missouri (slavery system state) voted Abraham Lincoln with 10% in 1860. Some Southerner originated as Lincoln became antislavery from 1830 to 1860.
4. The United Kingdom abolished the slavery system in 1836 and France in 1848 and the 2 main naval powers lost any main interest about slavery system moreover Canadian possibility started the Undergroundrairoad.
@avena
Good points. Britain 's abolition of the slave TRADE in 1808 was extremely important because of the enormous economic impact.
The percentage of English Quakers and German Amish was much more significant in those days in the northeastern states before the US population boomed with huge immigration of the latter part of the 19thcentury, and was overwhelmingly anti-
Slavery.
I think the Underground Railroad movement also had a much greater effect on Northern political opinion than is generally known. Plenty of racist attitudes existed in the North, BUT most people there were still very much against the institution of slavery. This paradox is not well understood today, but it's crucial to US history.
The invention of the Cotton Gin also.
The "State Rights" meant not only the slavery system alone but a lot of The Southern states forbade the FREE SPEECH! The debate about slavery system was forbiden in a lot of Southern states. The first proslavery constitution also forbade the Free Speech about slavery system in Kansas!
Not all Southern states forbade Lincoln. 10% of Missoury voted to Lincoln in 1860, as St Louis and a other low slave populated county were won by Lincoln.
In Virginia Lincoln almost won Hanckock county (nowday West Virginia) in 1860. In Delaware Lincoln got high % vote. Maryland and Kentucky had low % Lincoln voters. ETERNAL SHAME FOR THE DEEP SOUTH LINCOLN WAS NOT ON THE BALLOT in 1860. So Nobody knew how many brave people were in the South! I think the result would have been similar to the Kentucky result if the Deep South had not forbade Lincoln from the Ballot.