NASTY 70s Jazz Bass Restoration | Axe From The Grave

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @ScienceofLoud
    @ScienceofLoud  Год назад +30

    After decades of neglect this 70 Hohner Jazz Bass is in a real mess - bowed neck, dead pickups, rusting parts, and a broken tuner. Can this instrument be brought back from the dead?
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    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 Год назад

      If you run out of adjustment, you have to made a little bushing from another bored-out cut-off truss rod nut. Got one on my desk right now, as it turns out.

    • @joekoons1937
      @joekoons1937 9 месяцев назад

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  • @nwojdak
    @nwojdak Год назад +79

    As a bassist who loves your Axe From the Grave series, I think this is my new favorite video of yours! The end result looks amazing Colin, moderately playable and still retaining it's patina! What about removing all of the frets and making it fretless?

    • @lenwhatever4187
      @lenwhatever4187 Год назад +4

      been there done that.... then I bought a fretless, I'm not going back. One of the biggest problems with "cheap" basses is that money is saved in materials used. A fretless needs a good hard fretboard (fingerboard?) or it is hard to get a clean note. This is aside from other mods aside from just pulling frets and filling the grooves. Also, a fretless is more sensitive to bend in the neck than a fretted bass.

    • @ErickvdK
      @ErickvdK Год назад +1

      Soft fretboards can be made durable with ca glue.😊

    • @BillyTheCheeseMonger
      @BillyTheCheeseMonger Год назад

      Good idea!

    • @lenwhatever4187
      @lenwhatever4187 Год назад

      @@ErickvdK Durable and hard are not the same thing though hard is often also durable. I would have to feel a fretboard treated with CA as a fretless before tried it again... on someone else's bass ;)

  • @alexforshaw
    @alexforshaw Год назад +71

    That neck bow is frustrating. Maybe try using heat along with clamping?

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass Год назад +12

      Dave from Dave’s World of Fun Stuff has a method of doing just this

    • @miahconnell23
      @miahconnell23 Год назад +3

      @@ChrisHopkinsBass gonna take a look, thanks for the recommend 🙏

    • @j3xh
      @j3xh Год назад +2

      be careful when you do this, i just twisted one of my necks with a misplaced clamp

    • @rockerwill777
      @rockerwill777 Год назад +1

      'Zackly what I was gonna say. Well clamped, with a cheapo hair dryer pointed at the problem area, and a nice long cool down time under clamp pressure.... Job's a goodun 👌👌👌

    • @AaronNGBnTech
      @AaronNGBnTech Год назад

      I did that with an old les Paul copy and it worked fine

  • @iamnoman85
    @iamnoman85 Год назад +26

    I was not prepared to hear Colin scream "sweaty c**t flaps" into a bass today. That is the hardest I've laughed all week!

    • @ChrisFranklyn
      @ChrisFranklyn Год назад +1

      I completely lost it at that point!

  • @PocketUnv
    @PocketUnv Год назад +13

    This is so much fun to watch, as someone who some day aspires to build a parts-o-caster this is invaluable. Thus far I've bought the strings and a pick.

  • @chrisdaviesguitar
    @chrisdaviesguitar Год назад +5

    Nice tip on the white vinegar, cheers for that one.

  • @rivalmindss
    @rivalmindss Год назад +3

    youve got my appreciation by only restoring the playability of the guitar and leaving the personailiy of the guitar intact. seeing the old Slipknot and Vans sticker threw me back to high school and trying to start metal bands with my friends

  • @jacob_krause_official7286
    @jacob_krause_official7286 Год назад +6

    I can't stress enough that 'Axe from the grave' is my favorite series. Keep doing more!

  • @MrBiggordy
    @MrBiggordy Год назад +7

    Like a few other contributors here, I love this 'Axe from the Grave' series - it shows what can be done, and should be done, with old, misused guitars. It shows, also, what shouldn't be done, i.e. throwing money at an obviously cheap guitar. Finally, it shows your restorative skills, and sideways, inventive thinking, off to great effect. Keep them coming, and 'gaunyersel'!!

  • @Furtheronmusic
    @Furtheronmusic Год назад +4

    A sadly now passed away friend had a fretless Honher p-bass with that bridge. Always liked the design.

  • @gilpi552
    @gilpi552 10 месяцев назад +2

    Clamp the neck into a back-bow as you mentioned, with a heat gun (start slow) with some light heat mostly in the problem area, wait till it cools off, unclamp and check it, proceed if needed. For this process, I loosen the truss rod while clamping and applying heat to the neck. I have fixed many "impossible" necks this way. Good luck!

  • @ilikepotatoes1345
    @ilikepotatoes1345 Год назад +9

    I love this series, the restoration process is always so satisfying to watch.

  • @cwinkels
    @cwinkels Год назад +4

    This is so deeply satisfying to watch. Please consider many more of these.

  • @michaelhall736
    @michaelhall736 Год назад +1

    I think it's kind of refreshing what you're doing with this one. It's in such a horrid state but it has character and you keeping its character is awesome. Whenever I watch other restorers they always rob it of any character it had.

  • @South_Skirata
    @South_Skirata Год назад +4

    Yey, another Axe From The Grave video
    Absolutely love this series

  • @Ren_184
    @Ren_184 Год назад +2

    AFTG is my favorite series of yours Colin keep up to amazing work my friend and thanks for showing some love to us Bassists!

  • @kbroomall
    @kbroomall Год назад +1

    I find this super satisfying!

  • @jasonbrumley5453
    @jasonbrumley5453 Год назад +1

    I love that you keep the mojo the bass has. Some guitar restoration channels bum me out since they make them so generic and lose the vintage vibe and personalization

  • @alexcrouse
    @alexcrouse Год назад

    The background music was perfect for this. Fantastic work!

  • @swingAE86
    @swingAE86 Год назад +1

    Oh thats some good tone right there

  • @BaBaBaBenny
    @BaBaBaBenny Год назад +8

    Nice job! I like that you kept the stickers and the painted fretboard, sometimes it makes me kinda sad when a restorer scrapes and scrubs away all the history of the instrument. Only thing I would've ditched were those strat knobs, imo they just cheapen the look of any guitar then go on. Even strats! haha

    • @rivalmindss
      @rivalmindss Год назад +1

      I purposefully put strat knobs on my Fender jazz bass, lol. I like the way it looks. I didnt like the orignal jazz knobs.

  • @MissJazz004
    @MissJazz004 Год назад +1

    as a big fan of these old japanese instruments, and as a bass player, i absolutely loved this. these old copies are definitely a mixed bag, sometimes you get a real gem, other times you get an unplayable guitar shaped object. that said, this one maybe isn’t a gem, but it’s definitely a great project piece

  • @sickboy481
    @sickboy481 Год назад

    Oooo, Crimson Guitar tools, a man of culture I see! Ben is a mad genius!

  • @damasterkarej
    @damasterkarej Год назад

    That's one of my favorite series to watch.

  • @markpickardlife
    @markpickardlife 9 месяцев назад

    This is one of your best videos. Thanks!

  • @michaellorenz7177
    @michaellorenz7177 Год назад +2

    Crazy how you turned that bow into a bass.

  • @elijahpeters3637
    @elijahpeters3637 Год назад +1

    I clamped up a 73 Strat neck with the opposite problem (too much backbow) and left it in a hot garage all summer, worked great. Can't wait to see what you come up with?

  • @ciddax754
    @ciddax754 6 месяцев назад

    For the pickup dipping: It is helpfull to reduce the pressure in the pot. You can find stuff for that in the automotive world for removing air from a brakesystem.

  • @DieselWeazel
    @DieselWeazel Год назад

    Restoration Bluballs lol I respect staying in your lane and making a great video.

  • @vasotoe
    @vasotoe Год назад +2

    Woah! What an amazing video! (And somehow very satisfying to watch!) Cheers Colin!

  • @2Step2Hell
    @2Step2Hell Год назад +1

    This is great, please do more restoration videos

  • @me1ar299
    @me1ar299 Год назад

    Another bass restoration video, let's go!!!

  • @MrAg127
    @MrAg127 Год назад +1

    My Hohner Arbor series telecaster from 1987 has a similar keyhole bridge plate. I like this design.

  • @Bobby-wn5yr
    @Bobby-wn5yr Год назад +3

    Love these videos, so interesting, and who doesn’t like working on their guitars? can’t wait to see how the neck turns out!
    As for the playing… yep that’s a guitarist who’s picked up a bass lol, but I have faith!

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman Год назад

    Impressive restoration work. Normal guitar repairers probably wouldn't re-wind a pickup for you. I'm also impressed by the subtle swearing spoken like a true Scot!

  • @garethm9523
    @garethm9523 Год назад

    I have had a little binge of your repair videos. It's a bit disappointing about the neck but it's all part of the process

  • @jaskiniamestwa
    @jaskiniamestwa Год назад

    Damn, that tape lock is brilliant!

  • @grantkoeller8911
    @grantkoeller8911 9 месяцев назад +1

    You can switch from .105" to .100" for the low E string, and from .085" to .080" and that will help the neck."

  • @EversonBernardes
    @EversonBernardes Год назад +3

    Colin, might want to remove the truss rod nut completely and plop some washers there. That will give you a bit more thread and useful adjustment range.
    Can also apply _some_ heat to the neck while doing the backbow thing to coerce the wood to take on a new shape.

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 Год назад

      "Washers" really isn't right. You have to made a little bushing from another bored-out cut-off truss rod nut. Got one on my desk right now, as it turns out.

    • @EversonBernardes
      @EversonBernardes Год назад

      @@richsackett3423 can be proper washers, Fender used to use brass washers for older guitars/basses.

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 Год назад

      @@EversonBernardes Where would you source them? I've been wrenching on basses for 40 years and have never seen anything like that. Always looking for better solutions.

    • @EversonBernardes
      @EversonBernardes Год назад +1

      @@richsackett3423 Fender still sells those brass washers, IIRC. I just get them from hardware store, 8mm outer dimension, needs to fit a 10-32 thread.

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 Год назад

      @@EversonBernardes Fender still does from what I found. Thank you.

  • @kennethnielsen3864
    @kennethnielsen3864 Год назад

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @soundman1402
    @soundman1402 Год назад

    Your Axe From The Grave series inspired me to fix up an old Yamaha J bass that needed some love. Not as bad as this bass, but it had a broken pot shaft, tarnished gold hardware, old strings, it was dirty, and needed a setup. I replaced the volume pots, shined up the hardware with vinegar and a toothbrush, oiled the fretboard with lemon oil, gave it new strings, a set of Bartolini pickups, and a setup. I sold it to a music school because it wasn't the sound I was looking for, but damn, it played like a dream!

  • @XscudX
    @XscudX Год назад

    Yes!!!! Do more bass stuff

  • @adammono1839
    @adammono1839 Год назад

    Alot of hard work, colin! Thanks for showing us this even though it didn't quite work out.
    You reminded me of a dan erlewine video where he massaged a p bass neck as he adjusted the neck relief

  • @CatPickStudios
    @CatPickStudios Год назад

    Another awesome video! Reminds me I need to get my jazzmaster finished.

  • @geraldbolso1899
    @geraldbolso1899 Год назад

    I love these types of videos. Keep it up,.Collin!

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 Год назад +1

    I've had some success clamping a neck into a back bow, but also applying some heat to convince the wood to bend.

  • @alvarogonzalez5783
    @alvarogonzalez5783 Год назад

    Beautiul work!!

  • @svenkaahedgerg3425
    @svenkaahedgerg3425 Год назад

    Very good video. It was rather interesting

  • @DMSProduktions
    @DMSProduktions Год назад +3

    The biggest damage done to that bass was the Slipknot sticker!

  • @nathancroot3690
    @nathancroot3690 Год назад

    This is such an amazing series of videos to watch, I'd love to give something like this a try myself but there's so much I need to learn first!

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass 11 месяцев назад

    Combine the neck clamping with a heat blanket and you could be onto a winner. Ted Woodford and Dave Raume have vids showing this in action and most times it works wonders

  • @soulagent79
    @soulagent79 Год назад +1

    My first guitar ever was Hohner Tele copy. Same design - maple neck, body all black. Actually it was a pretty decent affordable guitar. especially in that time period.

  • @nbs-spike5822
    @nbs-spike5822 Год назад

    Dave's World of Fun Stuff did the clap in extreme position idea, but he made a heater for the fretboard, and it worked perfectly, and I think took only hours.

  • @velutumbra
    @velutumbra Год назад

    My bass (secondhand Squier Modern IV) also had a huge action and bow. I temporarily solved it by shimming the neck and raising the saddles, thinner strings, left if like that for a few days, and it got straight(er).
    Finally had to put it on a jig for two weeks (I am calling jig to an ensemble comprised of an oak piece, two thick cork pads and three clamps). Now I can set it to start buzzing at any fret I want, or none at all..

  • @frankiechan9651
    @frankiechan9651 Год назад

    I fixed an up-bowed strat neck with heat. Loosened the truss rod, clamped it up and left it in my tin shed for a day - during an Australian summer.
    Pretty sure it got well over 50C in there.
    Took it out and let it cool in the clamps for a couple of days. It's been stable for over 5 years now.

  • @matthewn4896
    @matthewn4896 Год назад

    Turned out really nicely so far. I hope we get to see how you get on with the neck. Btw, something that you might find useful for dealing with rusted parts is boiling them in water. It's a very non-invasive way to convert active rust into passivated rust that won't damage the parts any further. I've found it works extremely well for dealing with old firearms.

  • @lurklingX
    @lurklingX Год назад

    yep i wanna see an update with the neck on this one!

  • @chrisdrake447
    @chrisdrake447 Год назад

    Got a virtually identical problem with my 90s Fenix PJ bass - thin profile maple neck with a forward bow, and a truss rod at max adjustment. Tried lighter strings, but reckon it too needs the forced back bow treatment, possibly with added heat. Never actually liked the feel of the neck as it has very sharp shoulders to the fingerboard edges, so replacement with some finessed fitting would be the next step. Cheers, Colin!

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 Год назад

    What a cool bridge. On basses, always manually bend the neck while taking up the slack and setting that adjustment with the truss rod nut. Never crank on the nut alone for adjustment. You can kinda get away with it on guitars but on basses it's a poor idea.
    If you run out of adjustment, you have to made a little bushing from another bored-out cut-off truss rod nut. Got one on my desk right now, as it turns out.

  • @ChrisHopkinsBass
    @ChrisHopkinsBass Год назад

    +15 points for the Stormbringer riff

  • @NotSosigRamsey
    @NotSosigRamsey Год назад +1

    My 2009 Mexican fender jazz bass has a similar issue with the neck, I managed to get rid of some of the bow in the neck, but the action around the 7th fret and buzzing out above the 12th fret seems to get worse by the day.
    So I might try what you were saying about the neck and clamping it down.
    worth a shot i guess

  • @stoatystoat174
    @stoatystoat174 Год назад

    I have a even more budget DeVille bass with a similar but even more gubbed neck. Very bent at the body end of the neck. In the end i removed the neck, took off frets 21 to 24 then sanded down that bit of the neck to get it out of the way. (Don't think the trust rod effected the high end part of the neck at all) Put a flatish bit of plastic in the body's neck pocket, at the body end of the pocket, to counter the curve on that bit of the neck by wedging it back to straightish. Surprising nice to play now

  • @concretebadger
    @concretebadger Год назад

    This vid series is sooo satisfying to watch. It's got me thinking about a bass of mine that's currently stuffed into a gigback and forgotten about under my bed: a 2010 MIM Fender Jazz bass which also has some annoying neck bow that won't go away. I'd be very interested to see whether your plan of clamping the neck works for you, because that might be the only thing that would work on mine...

  • @SerjBassist
    @SerjBassist Год назад

    This hits close to home, I have my very first bass back after a couple years being loaned to a friend. I'ts a very cheap P bass copy with terrible electronics, completely squared frets and an ugly headstock. I am considering to rebuild it, but I need to find the time and space (and money) to do it.

  • @pauldavis6356
    @pauldavis6356 Год назад +2

    You referenced "Dave's World Of Fun Stuff" in this video. Have you checked out the heat press he uses to correct neck issues? It seems to work well. You did a lot of work on that bass. Great video.

  • @shaunstephen9761
    @shaunstephen9761 Год назад +5

    This pickup is microphonic 😂

  • @casanovafunkenstein5090
    @casanovafunkenstein5090 Год назад

    If you wanted to do a much less laborious reinforcement of the neck you could always just foregoe taking the fretboard off and just take the frets out (you may as well replace them either way) and route channels directly into the fretboard.
    After putting in the reinforcement you can fill them with epoxy, level them off to a radius and put new frets in.
    It's not the most elegant solution but you could potentially dig out the truss rod in the process (using hand tools for the last couple of millimeters so you don't bugger your bits) and you could also play it off as a type of inlay by putting lines perpendicular to the channels you cut at the appropriate points and using coloured epoxy. In theory you should also be able to retain the positions for the frets without needing to measure and mark them out again.

  • @scoosh.productions
    @scoosh.productions Год назад

    This was more of a bow 🏹 than a bass. 😂 amazing its turned out how you've got it so far!

  • @thomaspatton1991
    @thomaspatton1991 Год назад +1

    Little note about the stuck screw - next time try a blowtorch. Heat is a last resort, but usually does the trick.

  • @wbfaulk
    @wbfaulk Год назад

    StewMac's truss rod rescue set would probably help with the back bow issue you have here, but it costs far more than this instrument is worth, so not worth it unless you have uses for it elsewhere. Sadly, it's probably not something you can create yourself for less unless you have machine tools. The hollow end mill and the long, thin thread cutter really are unique tools.

  • @soundman1402
    @soundman1402 Год назад +1

    10:19 I learned some new vocabulary. LOL

  • @hilgorgruppenschaaft2203
    @hilgorgruppenschaaft2203 Год назад +4

    Yop, that’s a Slipknot fan’s guitar alright

  • @cathouseboo
    @cathouseboo Год назад

    Grease bucket tone control is always good

  • @christopher-miles
    @christopher-miles Год назад

    READYMADE!

  • @nerdsforcardgames
    @nerdsforcardgames Год назад

    I love how mad Colin seemed in this video. It made me laugh super hard.

  • @Sorakorra
    @Sorakorra Год назад

    I would love to see the process of streaming and removing the fretboard to replace the truss rod

  • @InsomniacMatt
    @InsomniacMatt Год назад

    Wow, 1988, that was 3 years before I was born

  • @ctsilva45
    @ctsilva45 Год назад +2

    But you forgot to answer the most important question: did you put the peanut wrapper back under the pickups?

    • @casanovafunkenstein5090
      @casanovafunkenstein5090 Год назад

      Of course he did. That foil was literally the only shielding in the instrument

  • @phunkym8
    @phunkym8 Год назад

    nothing more metal than a 70s jazz bass with single coils. but i gotta admit that wood pattern on the fretboard looks cool.

  • @ВикторовичЖелезных

    В тему анкера: в свое время сразу после покупки подержанного Фернандеса, столкнулся с проблемой того, что анкер затянут уже на максимум, а прогиб грифа все равно ощутимый. И тогда, чисто из интереса, я максимально ослабил анкер, затем начал затягивать, и во-первых, анкер стал крутиться легче, во-вторых, я смог его натянуть до нужного мне уровня.

  • @crackedspyglass
    @crackedspyglass Год назад

    Love it

  • @bertrandmajorik6589
    @bertrandmajorik6589 Год назад

    P and J bass, your set !!!!

  • @axelnoi
    @axelnoi Год назад

    you can refret it. tighten the trussrod as far as it can go. sand the board flat and give the neck a compression fretjob. Done it a bunch of times.

  • @xavierandradev
    @xavierandradev Год назад

    You missed a simple option for the neck. Add a spacer to the nut, so the truss rod can be adjusted further.

  • @riffsnoleads
    @riffsnoleads Год назад

    I was briefly worried this was going to be a "factory resoroation" and I am glad it was not.
    For the neck, I would remove all the frets from the 11th or 12th fret up like Cronos from Venom and call it done.

  • @JonManProductions
    @JonManProductions Год назад

    I did something similar with a 159 dollar Guitar Center Special... from a dead company known as "The Bass Company." A beautiful, well played in five string boi that was modded to kingdom come.
    Refretted, installed new hipshot hardware and a new nut... still need to redo the electronics. But it's a power player now. :D
    EDIT UPDATE: Bass has new active electronics and has been promoted to five string A standard tuning >:D

  • @zacerax6000
    @zacerax6000 Год назад

    More axe from the grave!

  • @anthonythomas6593
    @anthonythomas6593 Год назад

    Glad to hear that Craig Ferguson found a new job!

  • @woodyh4650
    @woodyh4650 Год назад

    I’m only a minute in. Make sure the truss rod FIRST. LOL. We’ll see how it goes. 🤘🏼

  • @vagata123
    @vagata123 Год назад

    It is possible to remove the frets, level sand the board, then install frets with a bigger tang then do a level crown and polish to straighten the neck. Might not be enough but it is an option. you'd lose the black color of the fretboard though.

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 Год назад

      And spend unnecessary unpaid hours. Hard pass.

  • @jamesmarkham7489
    @jamesmarkham7489 Год назад +1

    More bass resurrection

  • @matthewf1979
    @matthewf1979 Год назад

    For educational/video purposes, it would be cool to see you attempt the “proper” repair of the neck. At that point, a whole new fingerboard could go on. Something wild, but not endangered would be very interesting. Zebra wood anyone?

  • @BryanClark-gk6ie
    @BryanClark-gk6ie Год назад +1

    Force it into a back bow and replace the frets with frets that have bigger fret tangs.

  • @cupnoodlesdacupcake
    @cupnoodlesdacupcake Год назад

    Change the truss rod with a double action bar. Its pretty common on this old ibstruments bowing because it has a single bar action

  • @LDN76
    @LDN76 Год назад

    Cool

  • @drew2dee2
    @drew2dee2 Год назад

    I traded a squier j mascis jazzmaster that I LOVED for an '04 Mexican jazz bass, the dude neglected to tell me that the neck had the same issue that this one has, but even worse. So now I'm down a guitar I loved but at least I have an unplayable bass!

  • @lurklingX
    @lurklingX Год назад

    LOLLLLLLL "restoration blueballs" omffffffffg hahaaaaaa. such a great term tho. i've felt that before.

  • @Mr.Goldbar
    @Mr.Goldbar Год назад

    I'm pretty sure the PRS Vela has a very similar bridge design to this!

  • @Whitewolf76802
    @Whitewolf76802 Год назад

    I've done the last idea on the neck to great success. Try a bit of WD-40 down the truss rod screw.

  • @JonathanWhoever
    @JonathanWhoever 7 месяцев назад

    It's alot of work, but I've done it.
    1 remove frets
    2 loosen truss rod
    3 sand a BACK bow into the fret board
    4 refret
    5 "level" a back bow again into the frets
    6 crown, polish
    7 restring
    8 and maybe just maybe tightening the now loose truss rod can manage the relief
    9 maybe even put a spacer under the truss rod adjuster.
    Side note" I am a very stubborn and patient person with some idle time in my life."
    So your results may very.
    Never give up, you can always start from the very fucking beginning again.