How to GROUT a patio on your OWN-Flowpoint
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2023
- How to grout a patio on your own.
Im using flowpoint to grout the porcelain patio with a 5 mill joint.
I go through the tools and equipment you'll need.
I show the important procedures you can follow to grout your patio.
The hotter the weather the quicker the grout sets i show this in the video.
You can do this on your own just follow my steps and good luck .
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Another amazing job. Well done Justin and the boys 👏👏👏👏
Appreciate it Anthony 👍
Looks really smart that stuff 👍👍
Cracking video Justin, love your channel.
Thanks mate appreciate it a lot 👍 👊💯
Thanks mate. Your how to videos are easy to watch and answered all the questions i had
Thanks good to know appreciate the feedback 👍
Great demo.👍👍
Thanks JC 👍🧱🧱
Jesus Justin yr a brave man using that in that heat & sun ☀️fair play to you mate 👍👍👍
I no it just got hotter and hotter as the day went on craig 🤣👍
Perfect thanks, think I’ll give it a go
Good luck 👍
Great video thank you 💯
A pleasure thanks very much 👍
Another great job Justin. Nice to see Scott pop in. Or should that be hop in.😅
He was only there for the beer🍺🍺
Thanks Ray appreciate it.Always nice to see Scott 🍺👍👊
Hi Justine
Well done mate in that temp and being on my own I’m sure I would of left it mate !! Top marks pal you went and done it pal , shows what a professional you are mate , some good tips as well ❤ keep safe and well mate , hope you got the lads back next week pal 👍
So do i im on my own again tomorrow fra still ill .i took Friday off or id of killed myself got to just stop sometimes john as im getting older im putting myself first a bit more and not over doing this was a hard day just getting the stuff out the van was hard enough.
Thanks John speak when all is back to normal for me mate good luck next week mate 👍
Mint finish 👍 Scott pushing his nose in, probably only there for the beer, he's no one else as grumpy to drink with 😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 he's a good lad was nice to have a beer with him 👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping he's a star, has me in stitches 😂 and you too 😂👍
@markrobinson1458
Got to have a laugh doing this job Mark 🤣 💯
Stunning job pal. It look as flat as flat can be.
Wish my stomach was as flat Tony 😂😂 cheers mate 👍 👌
I’m feeling stressed just watching you doing it 😂 by far the most stressful part of the whole job but defo worth it! Great job mate
Yea spot on cheers 👍
My missus got her patio done by a cowboy 3 years ago and all the grouting has gone, looks shocking - I'm going to use this product to redo all her grouting. Your video has given me the confidence to get on with it, thanks!!!
Sorry to here that but im glad the video has helped .good luck 👍
Best Flowpoint video I’ve watched well explained Justin (duct tape under the overhanging joints next time will hold long enough to fill them fella)
Thanks maza 👍💯
Looks nice mate cracking job has allways pal have a beer 🍺 for me
The reward of 🍺 kept me going Danny 👍💯
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping well deserved mate see you on the next one
@@dannyhogi4953 definitely 👍🍺💯🧱🧱
Top tip mate, when your grouting the overhangs on the edge of a patio just get some duct or maskin tape and tape the underside of the slab and the upstand that way the grout can't escape and will save you going back over at a later point just get it all done in one go buddie 👍 keep up the good work
Tried it mt tape came off but ill give it a go again .ta for the tip 👍
Think better off small bit of ply with tape on and prop it under overhang did a repair that way.
Bet the first time someone uses that it's a stressful day😬 looks brilliant 👌
Yep your right there Nathan 😂😂👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping I was wondering about the overhang for joining, I was expecting the old duck tape to come out😅
Love you and scott great videos and imfomation 👍🏴i got my first 80m2. To do on my own, three toilet rolls ready, im.hoping i can do it in sections is there an issue connecting jointing to gone off jointing of the grout i should worry about🙏
Appreciate the comment .you'll be fine do it in stages and all will be ok.
As for the jointing should be ok to add on to previous sections we do it 👍🧱🧱🧱
Nice one Justin, I hope I don't have to go there! Regards Gareth
🤣 thanks Ga
😂😂 funny Justin, we do it the same way, not sure if i would do it on my own 😮, top tip for you, get a pedalo from tillers tools, you can take 90% ov the slurry off the face ov the tile while waiting for it to set without disturbing the joints, less cleaning, less stress
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I got a pedalo but never used it on a flowpoint job .thanks Darren 😂👍
Is that a wash boy?
Brilliant video buddy. As a beginner there's no chance I'm using this, but I love the dark look of those joints. I'm wondering if you can dye a traditional sand and cement mix this colour. That is one stunning joint when you did the close up!
Haha love the surprise Scott appearance at the end!
Thanks Marcus
Not sure if sandard cement would hold in a 5mm Joint be sure use building sand if you do it. 💯👍👍
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping thanks buddy, I just meant the nice colour of it. I think it would look lovely as a 10mm joint!
Fair play to you Justin. You did a great job. I used flowpoint on my own a few weeks back. A similar warm day. Mixed as directed. Poured half of it out and squeegee’d. Came back to the bucket to pour the other half out and it had already gone off. It wouldn’t even pour out. Spent the next hour jet washing and scrubbing the first lot off the tiles. Stained them pretty badly. Majorly stressful.
I no you have to be on your A game no how much to mix that you can cope with .Its not for the fait hearted is it 👍💯
I did some @@@@ me when it goes off it goes off , spent 5 hrs washing my porcelain off 😢, but still some of the joints are low, so im going make some stiff flowpoint and try to grout it with grout float & washboy 🙏🙏🙏
Cracking job Justin, patio and grouting looks amazing - not the sort of job I'd willingly tackle that's for sure, best left to the professionals. There's obviously a chemical reaction taking place as the Flowpoint goes 'off', and I guess many guys have left the process too late, resulting in the stained tiling feared by all. My question then is this - does Flowpoint have a remedial chemical reaction product? To reverse the process?
Thanks Dave as always mate .
To answer your question not that im aware of you get it right or you dont its that simple or not .First time i did it i shit myself. You have to no what your doing with it Dave little bits at a time for people doing it first time mate 👍 👌 😉
You make it look easy could I ask if you have wide joints at ends of slabs but you can’t hold underneath is there a way to block ends off? Duct tape perhaps? Failing this could I cap the ends first with some of the grout left to thicken possibly?
Duck tape if good for that or just let the product set hard enough to use in the joint 👍
Great job one question how soon after laying the patio can you use the flow point because on Fuga they say four weeks if layed on mortar
Well to be honest I'd say as long as the patio is set id go for it.
The fuga pave grout isn't porus I don't think so moisture will need to come out of the paving hence 4 weeks .I just go for it never had an issue 👍
You have inspired me and I think I will have a bash at that. Of course I will be doing it on my own so I think I will mix half a bag at a time. I have Indian limestone which was professionally laid , I use that term loosely, and I have half a dozen loose tiles to remedy before I tackle the grouting. The grout lines are quite wide 10-15 mm if I recall correctly - once I rake them out - would you recommend I put some fine gravel in the bottom - to reduce the amount of flowcoat I am going to be ‘shovelling’ in there? Where did you get your big floor squeegee from?
Its a neoprene squeegee from the paving expert site on line .no i would use flowpoint no gravel the more in the joint the long its durability. Good luck 👍 💯
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Thank you very much.
I've just done half of mine today on my own, I'm a diyer and that was extremely stressful!
It was only about 14c here today and it dried out on the surface of the tile but hadn't set in the joint fully so I'm not sure what I did wrong. I got the stuck stuff off but the joint ended up low so I ended up doing another mix to go over it.
Other half is being attempted tomorrow, hopefully it goes better.
I no.it can be stressful but its done now feet up 👍
Maybe the joints were not dry to start with?
I recognised that fella with the boot lol
I no right odd ball 😂😂😂😂 hope your well mate 👍
Nice to see you here Scott
Brilliant very informative, could you tell me how many bags of flow point this took? please
Was two bags if i remember rightly zoe 👍
Thank you so much, I've been trying to work out what I need for mine, I did 2 year and used that silka but it just comes out so going to study your video and have a go at this, wish me luck x
@zoetaylor951
My advice is do not install it on a hot day .Around 15 cloudy is fine .
Sunny and hot it will set so quick then its hard work getting it off zoe .good luck 👍
Great informative video. I’m looking to do this soon. Where do you suggest rinsing off the flowpoint towards? I don’t have an area for it to run off other than drains or grass. Cheers
Do not let it go near the drains.
Id take a section of grass up .
Let the flowpoint drain to that sump area let it all set in the sump area .
When its set scrap it all out and add the truff back .thats what id do 👍
That’s great. Thanks for the quick response. Keep up the good work. All the best.
Dolphin tape round the wood Justin. Flowpoint easiest product out there to use. Just good preparation but for me on tiles to grainy finish. But main issue is no matter always seem to get super fine white pin striping real pain in the ass. Every had any issues with that Justin ? Big fan the product only use on concrete natural products really now. Saying that 150sqm marshalls Indian sandstone used there Flowpoint type grout got white bits appearing on edge and yet and there technicall had no answers all there products used. About is much use chocolate fire guard them lot.
Superb job yet again buddy. 🤟🤟
Its a cost thing lee i give people options on grout .All grout has its issues in my opinion lee.
The smooth flow point is way better than the standard product.
If you clean it off really well the white efflorescence is less but yes ive seen it .
Im still waiting for a user friendly grout system thats easier to install lee.
I find the grout is one of the hardest parts to do on a patio.
Hope your well lee cheers mate 👍 👌
Is that the same as that, Lee? : Dolphin tape encircles the wooden area, Justin. Flowpoint is undeniably the most user-friendly product available. Adequate preparation is crucial, though, especially when working on tiles to achieve a smoother finish. However, my primary concern revolves around an ongoing challenge: the persistent occurrence of exceptionally fine white pin-striping. It's a frustrating issue. Have you ever encountered this, Justin? I'm a big admirer of the product, restricting its use to concrete and natural surfaces. Having said that, on a 150sqm expanse of Marshalls Indian sandstone where Flowpoint-type grout was employed, I noticed the emergence of white bits along the edges. Curiously, despite using various products from the same company, their technical support was unable to provide any effective solutions. Their usefulness is comparable to that of a chocolate fire guard-practically nonexistent.
@@BobbyThurwell
Marshalls grout very similar pretty much the same product really. Flowpoint guessing probs better than there’s.
@@lmilne4859 You mean: "Marshalls' grout is remarkably similar, essentially offering a nearly identical product. In comparison, Flowpoint is likely superior to theirs, I would surmise.". Ok, I get it.
User hand squeegee for steps and the edges and then sponge it off with clean Walter has you go 👍
Cheers Tom 👍
what colour flowpoint is this please mate? charcoal? looks good.
Yes think it was the charcoal owen 👍
I have used this stuff twice and both times if left efforlence staining
Kev i agree with you mate .
You either use brush in products which arnt the best or flowpoint whicj is rock solid lasts forever but leaves some efflorescence thats the question i no which one i would choose .the other option is a tile grout which is more expensive so lots of considerations 👍
Would you recommend this or easy joint for Indian sandstone? What would you say is the better longer lasting product?
Never used easy joint but if its a polymer compound then flowpoint is way better as its cementitious 👍
Can you add a colour to the mix, e.g. to make it more buff?
Never done that so dont no sorry ed
Justin is flowpoint suitable for much more porous slabs
Hi Andrew its actually great for say indian sandstone just be careful on a hot day if you can pick a dry cooler day to do it 👍👌💯
@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping Indian were the ones I had in mind I did a patio for my neighbour 18 months ago and pointed it the way I know and didn’t do a bad job for a Waller now his friend wants me to do one for him so I may use flowpoint as you done a great demo and like you said it’s all about timing
@andrewleach1323
Well good luck with it hope all goes well for you 👍
Would you recommend for indian sandstone
This product (flowpoint) is actually better for indian sandstone so id recommend this product 👌
hi mate. is there a difference between flowpoint and jointing compound or is it the same thing?
Flowpoint is a rapid set cementitious grout whereas jointing compound is a resin based compound in my book 👍👊🧱
@@brickrightbuildinglandscapingthanks for the reply. if flowpoint is applied correctly, there shouldnt be any weed growth after a couple of years right?
@@dimeo2314
Right 👍
Nice job . What’s the name of this product? How much cost it thanks
Thanks
Flowpoint charcoal smooth £23 approx
HELP me please!
I did a patio for my mum and had to clean it I put down a cleaner for taking up concrete but now there is white spots all over the patio is there any way I can fix this problem?
It's limestone
I would contact the manufacturer of your paving.Tell them what product you've put on there paving. Seek some technical advice from them.
Limestone granite slate and sandstone dont do so well with say a brick acid or mortar remover.
Hope that helps good luck
Justin 👍
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I can see an inexperienced person getting into all sorts of trouble using that type of product. Washing off too soon or too late. Good advice would be to get someone reasonably priced and experienced to do that job. A good DIY person would come unstuck very quickly. Cheers Justin. 👍
Maybe Doug your right it can be done though 😉
Yes Justin. Im all for doing things myself and have done on many occasions. Expensive porcelain patio-after seeing that i'd be sat on the bog many times 😂@@brickrightbuildinglandscaping
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Done the job for 35 years what a ball ache . I gun in no mess would do my head in that 😫
Each to there own flowpoint in a gun not tried it with this sort of product but ok thanks for the heads up 👍
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You got some gonads to do that on your own Justin!!
Got to be on the A game mate 😉👍
that Pin on the karcher will will NEVER pull itself out... pin on your Karcher is not all the way in ... take off the pin push in the pipe all the way in and push the pin clip ALL the way down locking the pipe in
No it comes off what ever you do ive had two of the same karchers and its happened to both of them .terrible design. Ive had to by new pins and it soves it for a bit but eventually it pops off .i put the pin half way out as the groves in the pin pinch in a bit more that works aswell for a time .
The washer is great the pin and attachment in my opinion is rubbish and spoils an otherwise good tool 👍🙌
Yea it’s a known fault with the karchers. Happened to me so I ended up replacing the hose as the stock ones are terrible anyway and never had the problem since
Buy a Large Syringe 500ml Reusable Liquid Syringe with Catheter Tube Large Capacity online you'll be able to inject that product right into the joints and stress levels reduced with very little clean up
Thanks for the tip
Have you personally done this ?
That’s genius if it works well? I have finished my porcelain patio in my garden and it was my first ever go and I absolutely love it. Grouting next and I’m scared ill ruin it with flowpoint so I think I’ll try the syringe technique and mix a 1/4 of a bag at a time lol
Why the bother , joint it all the way .
Was hot stuff sets quick
JOINT IT as in the product for limestone & sandstone? A supplier I know said no to this as it is not suitable for porcelain but I don't know why.
@@CRyan71 as long as the paving is led on a full bed not a dodgy 5 spots where the joints never fill properly.
I use joint it like a normal 3-1 sand cement . Tip it out the bag into the supplied bucket and wet it up so it’s completely wet and use a pointing iron and off you go . Keep the paving dry if you can and use it from the bucket with a trowel the paving will brush off nice and easy compared to it being wet, Make sure you really compact it in there especially when you reach 2 corners .
I think if you just brush it in it’s not strong enough and just crumbles ,
Not sure why it’s frowned upon 🤷🏽
Great job Justin and you have made my mind up what to pave our patio with ( if we ever get it done 🙄)
Anything but this stuff ! 🤯😱👎🏼.
Indian Stone it is 🧱👍🏼
🤣🤣 steve im a bricklayer and learnt all this myself over the years .indian sandstone youd use the same product more so on that product.
When you eventually get around to doing your garden if you need any advice give me a ring .There is so much more to landscaping and different products its a mine field. Bricklaying isn't easy and landscaping is no different 🤣😉 you'll book another holiday before the garden gets down mate i bet 🤣🤣🤣👊👍🧱🧱