I would think English would sound closer to Dutch and German considering they would be directly connected, and the French would not have influenced the English language as much. Also, probably a stronger filial bond among the 3 countries, like the relationahip Sweden, Denmark and Norway share.
@@lissandrafreljord7913 And there's no telling how the development of the British isles would play out. Being on an island is what protected them from numerous invasions in history
@@lissandrafreljord7913 I think France will be a huge Empire , English, German, Dutch languages will not exist. Probably North America a colony. But then again United Balkans and Anatolia will be a huge if to that. The population around the Black Sea will be huge, That will be the second empire. Is hard to tell what language will be spoken, but for sure Germanic languages will remain in Sweden. I think the Italic Empire will appear anyway, but I feel that it will appear more early. Also I don't know the impact on climate of France and possibly Black Sea.
Dean Churchman, environmentally speaking the capital is goodbi, the currency is doggone, the weather is very damp indeed and the geography is oceanic or submergent. But the dog stuffs funny. 😸
From my best guestimates, I'd say the Romans probably would have still existed since they started in modern day Italy, which is quite far from doggerland. But the Roman invasions of Britain and probably France and Germany would have been very different.
@@mikemino3219 the big diffrence is the saxons wouldnt need boats to conquer britain neither would the vikings and the german faith would have been more connected and probably spread throught all north and west europe
@@jacksonthesyndicalist2771 sea level rises 100m after ice age, everything is okay, sea level rises not even 1m in the 2000nds omg we will die we destroyed the earth we are all going to drown
@@lucafreitag2954 You do realize how massively crazy it is for sea level to "rise not even 1m" in 20 years? It took thousands of years for the sea level to rise *before the ice age and back then every human lived a mobile life style and could just move inland if their houses flooded. Nowadays millions of millions of people live under 1 meter above sea level. When sea level rises by 1 meter, which is going to happen, they will either have to erect massive sea walls, move, or die. It's going to take a while but on the East Coast of America there's regular flooding in Miami and New Jersey, not even when raining, on sunny days. YOU are part of the problem. The scientific consensus is that there's going to be devastating climate change in this century and unless we make a monumental effort to reverse it we will experience a massive loss in revenue and life.
My father used to work in a museum and was the manager of it, so he was pretty into history. We live on a small island in the North sea at the coast of Germany, so somewhere the Doggerland would be right now. And my father'd always tell me about Doggerland. He helped some institutions to explore it even further, because we live right on top of one of the old river valleys of the Doggerland. And when I told my friends about Doggerland and even talked to teachers about it, none of them knew what it was! It was like it only existed in my family and noone else knew about it....
Other European countries would've done it. Britain wasn't the only country colonizing, they just happened to come out on top, not defending some of the shit the uk has caused other countries but without Britain colonizing we would be still living in the middle ages.
@@MrGeorge0707 What about all the wars and invasions Britain had to endure in their lands, The Roman invasion, the Vikings, The Saxons, The Germans who invaded the Channel Isles during world war two ??????!!!!!!!!
No electricity, no railways, no canals, no cricket, no football, no English, no English common law, no industrial revolution and the explosion of material goods, no modern bicycle
Isostatic rebounding is a tounge in cheek point of national pride in Scotland. Scotland is literally rising while England is sinking. It's happening really slowly but still.
@@christianphillipampoloquio6484 that, and their uhh.... questionable tendencies to star colonializing and pillaging stuff (coming from a guy whose country gut pillaged and colonialized by dutch decades ago.)
Interesting theory. As dutchmen i have 2 important question, where is the balance point for the netherlands? Would it help if we overflow belgium to keep us above sealevel?
I don’t know about “Dogger”, but your pronunciation of the rivers of Europe needs some work! (“Thames” is pronounced “Tems”, “Seine” is pronounced “Sen”, etc.)
I was thinking the exact same thing! Lets be fair to the fella though, at least he acknowledges that a world exists beyond 'murica's borders that isn't just a place where they go and kill brown people that can't fight back......
I'd love to have a topographical map with a time slider so we could see what land was above the surface at different times during human history, like how the Persian Gulf opened up to the Indian Ocean or when ancient coastal cities were swallowed by the sea!
5:00 Hypothesis: If Doggerland occupied the lands shown there, which would have landlocked the Netherlands and modern-day London, and if Doggerland was the confluence of rivers, then its major trade city / port would mostly replace all the major ones we know today to the immediate east and west: It would replace Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Antwerp. And to some degree London, because the modern site of London has great access to the sea but would be too far up the Thames estuary, which would move to Doggerland. I would guess the UK would have a different major trade city on its south coast instead of London, in that case. Perhaps some of those cities would still be where they are today, just not as big, and not as much of a focus of trade.
@@foresthaviland3612 That would change history quite a lot, especially since England would have had to spend more in building an army - not being an island - and, by consequence less in the navy that made it so powerful. But maybe it would have paradoxically have been more prepared to invasions like from the Romans or Vikings, as being an island gives a bigger sense of safety.
Altho such a lowland would likely only be safe/practical to traverse seasonally at best. It would have been constantly inundated by floods so perhaps a barge system would have been more efficient for trade. I can see a combination of the Netherlands + systems along other major waterways in Europe where tolls were extracted from traders by feudal lords on river banks (castles and forts). And no doubt river piracy would've been endemic
Or.... made it harder. We dont know if that Doggerland country would be allies of the nazis or the Antant. Or if it is one country or more. That big country/countrys easily could decided the fortune of Europe. The WW2 would be significantly quicker. I belive that the society and politics of Doggerland would be something similar to Brittain and the Beneluxe. So yes, the history would be significantly changed.
Even assuming countries would be as they are now, England would probably have been a lot different, having to focus more on its army instead of putting almost everything into the navy.
Think about germanys war against the soviets...they sent troops against 5 to 1 odds in winter, without warm clothing or even tanks that could compete against the T34. They threw millions of their men into a meat grinder for this. Now think about the battle of Britain, the U-boat war, and the collapse of the British economy and the fact that less than 500 aircraft were left to defend the island at one point...if you think the motivating factor in each attack was geographic you are a fool. The motivations were not based on terrain it was based on their level of hatred for their enemy and fortunately, the British were basically their brothers
I feel like many people don't realize that Atlantis has a very specific description of what it looked like, how they lived, and how they perished. Which this fits none of.
This video is literally the first time I've ever encountered mention of the Scheldt when I didn't go looking for it. Ever. I have watched probably 10,000 videos on RUclips and this is the first time this river has been mentioned in any of them. Fucking magnificent.
In maybe an appropriate twist of fate, Dogger bank is going to be developed as a huge wind farm with some reclaimed land to boot. Aimed as a joint European venture for sustainable energy. ...which is nice.
Very nicely done - I like it that you keep things simple. I'm trying to see patterns in millions of years of Hominid activity, so a broad overview is what I need for now. I've been studying the movements of ancient Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, trying to understand how changes in climate, landscape, massive volcanic activity and the rise and fall of resources needed for life affected those movements. Doggerland is another piece of that puzzle; thanks for putting this together.
I'm from the coast in Belgium and my family was orginally a fishing family, I still remember the stories of how many tusks of mammoths and other preshistoric materials they caught in their fishing nets, very interesting and cool!
Yea looking at where Doggerland was, it likely would have been extremely fertile. All those rivers that would have joined in it have historically had fertile banks, and as a general rule lowlands tend to do pretty well
@Rasputin I doubt he would've looked up the pronounciation of a random river that he only mentions once. If you've always heard it pronounced like that, and think it's correct, then you probably won't change.
When creating any content it’s important to know how things are pronounced. Imagine a BBC documentary where half of the places are mispronounced. It would be hard to take the narrator seriously as you can imagine. Google is your friend for pronunciations. Even the Google Translate app does a pretty good job of correctly pronouncing places around the world. If you’ve gone through all the trouble of making this video you might else well round it off with the right pronunciations.
Wow that was pretty fascinating. I never realized that glacier melt is a one-two punch. Not just a rise in sea levels, but a fall in land levels due to isostatic rebounding.
Santorini is a better guess for Atlantis. Plato brought the story to the west from Egypt, and Egypt had a trade partner there before one of the largest volcanic eruptions in human history literally sunk the island. This was Akrotiri, a Minoan city that had in-door plumbing, paved streets, and everything Plato would have boasted about it all back in the Bronze Age (roughly until 1,500 BCE). Nobody would probably go to the island in the immediate aftermath, since this cast an almost apocalyptic shadow of dust as far as China (resulting in massive famines). So by the time Egypt went back to trade with them, the city would have been submerged under water and it's reasonable to assume with levels of education as they were, that people would make up a story about the gods sinking the city rather than realizing it was a super-volcano that erupted before their great-great-grand fathers were born.
I probably watched these early videos awhile ago, but interesting to revisit them! The microphone is better now, the delivery not as rushed, the jokes and style seem just as good back then as they are now. Great stuff! Looking forward to when the channel intro/logo appears, that's way cool.:🐧
The british splendid isolation politics woul've never happen. leading to a much more invested britain in Europe and not becoming such a large Empire. The Britihsh had to focus much more on an army than a navy
There was plans to have artificial Islands in the area of the Doggerbank. Plans were screwed due to concerns that the wildlife could be disturbed (the Islands were meant to sustain Windparks, yet the area is a crucial hunting spot for birds so it was either the birds or renewable energy)
aniinnr choque the birds can hunt somewhere else, without clean energy it’ll be more than just birds dying. So like Europe, to let the planet die so one species of bird can hunt in peace.
Actually so glad that you mentioned our impact and how a few small changes could help the earth 🙏 interesting content too! I am really enjoying your channel
Marquis De Sade LOL yep. He also narrates horribly and tries to edit the videos to be as “edgy” as possible when it just comes off as super awkward. I’m not going to respect a person who has “Atlas” in their username and is talking about geography and can’t pronounce two famous and well known rivers correctly.
Maybe we should ask the Dutch to reclaim Doggerland, make a huge POLDER out of it and make it also the ENERGY farm for all countries around it. Put Windmills there, solar panels, nuclear reactors (far away from populous area's) and use the remaining land for growing food. The Dutch are quite good in that since they are food export country nr 2, just after the US. That tiny country exports more food than entire Russia, which is like, a zillion time bigger. So imagine if we put Dutch engineering and technology and apply that to Doggerland? It would be awesome.
I bet closing up the English strait would fuck up ocean currents real good though. My guess would be that especially Norway would freeze their asses off crashing their fishing industry and destroying the corals there
@@florisbiezeman3800 Fine if you want to get technical like that, besides Norway then because Norway itself is land. Or you actually think there are no corals there in which case just google it.
@Marquis De Sade And I'm pretty sure there was no cars and large scale agriculture when the ice melted and drowned doggerland so maybe people shouldn't be so quick to blame everything on humans.
Maybe the EU countries can collectively fund it - German money, Dutch engineers and Polish builders - then they can build a New Britain there and just carry on like Brexit was never even a thing.
Some Guy Britian and Ireland were 2 mountains and the land around it is hidden Europe that was apart of continental Europea. The sea from America flooded that side of Europe making Ireland and Britian to islands full of looneys. Idk if France was a mountain. It's like a huge creator.
My guess is it washed the soil from the island into the deeper parts of sea surrounding it. However, how would archeological artifacts remain on the Bank then?
Because it is thought to have happened in several waves (excuse the pun) and not simply one tsunami. This would have taken thousands of years really and not a one off event like we witnessed in Japan and Indonesia in recent years. Also, sea levels would have risen a great deal, adding to the submersion of a lot of land, gradually.
Errosion might also have played a part. Germany and the Netherlands have the largest mudflats in the world, and there's been a couple of bad storms in recent centuries that completely washed away entire islands in a matter of days. That would certainly have been happening in the area for a long time. Speaking of megatsunamis, the Tenerife waterslide threat would make a fun video.
@@halfishman5028 I didn't say anything about WWII or The United states. Just that the oil needs some good old Scottish Freedom and Liberty after Scotland becomes an independent nation. Like the British in the world wars. Fighting in Arabia to get oil. America was barely involved in the World Wars, only got into WWII when Pearl harbor was bombed.
Most shallowest part of the Dogger bank are only 13m deep. If you look at a marine atlas of the Dogger bank, you can see islands, peninsulas, mouths of rivers and even a lake. It's really cool.
Just speculation on this, but it """might""" have been a major stormtide, which happen all 100 years or so. Something similar but in smaller frame happened in 1362 at the saint marcellus' flood. Where multiple kilometers of land disappeared from the western coast of east Germany, killing estimated 25000 people.
WOW MANY MANY PEOPLEEE THAT'S WILD ITS WEIRD BECAUSE IT HAPPENED SO LONG AGO BUT NOW WE KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT.IT LIFE IS SO DIFFERENT IN THEIR TIME COMPARED TO NOW 👍
What would it be like? Basically (Norway + Netherlands + UK) ÷ 3. Surprise surprise 😂 also the G in Dutch is fricative. In other languages it's sometimes spelled kh.
2:50: Damn! That was a *HUUGE* Norway! At last the Norwegians got their revenge and conquered Sweden, Finland, Denmark and parts of the Baltics and Russia! (Or else, as an alternate interpretation, the right term should be the "Nordic" or "Scandinavia")
Your pronunciation for doggerland was correct. Sadly your pronunciation for European rivers was not. Thames is pronounced tems Seine is pronounced seign
His pronunciation was correct for English speakers but it isn't pronounced like that in Dutch. And as the guy pointed out the word Dogger is a (old) Dutch word. With the iconic hard G sound of the Northern Netherlands
The water came from the flood of Noah's time. The ice caps froze at that time and preserved baby elephants with fresh vegetation in their stomachs. They died quickly and froze solid after drowning.
Large lands lost to the sea that could potentially be reclaimed: *EXISTS*
Netherlands: It’s free real estate
cornelis lely: "HAHAHA YOU'RE MINE NOW!"
I've got a solution, just bring all your old freezers to the north and plug them in leave them running to restore the glaciers.
G E R K O L O N I S E E R D
Lmao 😂
Lmao xD
So it would be a buffed up netherlands
Yes it would help alot
the netherlands is already pretty swol to
Swolanders
Or split between England, Belgium and Netherland. Or independent
- Lowland? Fighting with Netherlands, which one is more dammed.
I think it would be a buffed up luxenburg
First Brexit seemed to be a lot quicker then the second current one.
Than*
Haha
oooo, sadly it have happened, it only tooken A F'ING MILLENNIAL
Ikr
We've had one Brexit, yes; what about second Brexit?
"what happened to Doggerland?"
*
Catterland: *smirks
Classic..:)
Australia is both
China: *sets knife and fork down*
@@winstonsmithdeservedtherat3811 The Chinese consume all.
Loool laughed so much
*"points to whole Scandinavia an and half of Russia"*
--Norway
Half of Russia? do You even know the borders of Russia? That region is less than 15% of Russia
InvisibleFlame 272 cz *points to the Fennoscandian peninsula*
- Half of Russia
Nah it's just another HOI expansion
@@yanuchiuchihaanimegamesand3907 hah 15 more like 10
He didn't point to Denmark so it wasn't all of Scandinavia
Europe: Losing weight since 6000 BC
XD
Praveen
That’s why we all so attractive
LiechtensteinBall Habt ihr einen eigenen deutschen Akzent in Liechtenstein?
Jesus Kistus
Ja, Liechtensteiner Dialekt :)
America never experienced that
Imagine how different European history would be with doggerland
I would think English would sound closer to Dutch and German considering they would be directly connected, and the French would not have influenced the English language as much. Also, probably a stronger filial bond among the 3 countries, like the relationahip Sweden, Denmark and Norway share.
Imagine if England and France had a land border.
Yeah.
The world would’ve ended.
@@lissandrafreljord7913 And there's no telling how the development of the British isles would play out. Being on an island is what protected them from numerous invasions in history
@@lissandrafreljord7913 I think France will be a huge Empire , English, German, Dutch languages will not exist. Probably North America a colony. But then again United Balkans and Anatolia will be a huge if to that.
The population around the Black Sea will be huge, That will be the second empire.
Is hard to tell what language will be spoken, but for sure Germanic languages will remain in Sweden.
I think the Italic Empire will appear anyway, but I feel that it will appear more early.
Also I don't know the impact on climate of France and possibly Black Sea.
@@lissandrafreljord7913 dutch and english are pretty similair right now too
What do you mean "country" all I'm seeing is more Netherlands
@Alpha Annihilator more like shrinking 💀
@@xedsity nah they be creating land outta sea
Doggerland stats
Capital: Goodboi
Currency: Dogecoin
Weather: Can be ruff
Geography: Dense forest with lots of bark
Hahahahaha this is hilarious
Je
Although I'm a polyglot I have no idea on the Dutch language, so Goedbooi is fine too my Dutch-speaking friend!
This is so dumb but I just keep laughing.
Dean Churchman, environmentally speaking the capital is goodbi, the currency is doggone, the weather is very damp indeed and the geography is oceanic or submergent. But the dog stuffs funny. 😸
Goodbye Doggerland. You were a good boy
If that's a real photo of you, you have amazing hair!
Butters The Bean It is. Thank you❤️
Doggoland...
The best boy
Not just a gud boi, *THEE* gud boi
*Atlas Pro pronounces 'Dogger'*
Me: Meh, its fine.
*Atlas Pro pronounces Thames, Seine, Meuse and Scheldt*
Me: HIGHLY TRIGGERED.
Thames is pronounced as (temms)
@@BM-rw8ty yupp
Torture!
@@BM-rw8ty Not to be confused with the Thames in London Ontario
Thames - rhymes with James
Seine - rhymes with rain
Meuse - rhymes with goose
Scheldt - rhymes with belt
Atlas Pro: Since Europe is so dense, every part of it must be put to good use, with no exceptions.
Northern Scandinavia: *Quickly Hides*
The growth, fall, and legacy of the Roman Empire would have been very different if England had not been an island.
The entire history of Europe wold have been so different, who even knows ifnRome would have existed
From my best guestimates, I'd say the Romans probably would have still existed since they started in modern day Italy, which is quite far from doggerland. But the Roman invasions of Britain and probably France and Germany would have been very different.
Britain's history would be vastly different since so much of it has been sculpted by the fact it is an island
The islands are the British Isles not the English Isles and England is only one of three countries on the main island.
@@mikemino3219 the big diffrence is the saxons wouldnt need boats to conquer britain neither would the vikings and the german faith would have been more connected and probably spread throught all north and west europe
Crazy to think Netherlands is gonna be talked about in this way some day hahahaha
Space Racer26 the whole world will be underwater but the Dutch will just have built a massive sea wall.
Don’t be so sure of that.
If there’s any country that won’t sink without a fight, it’s the Netherlands.
@@joelmulder We Will Fight.
@@jacksonthesyndicalist2771 sea level rises 100m after ice age, everything is okay, sea level rises not even 1m in the 2000nds omg we will die we destroyed the earth we are all going to drown
@@lucafreitag2954 You do realize how massively crazy it is for sea level to "rise not even 1m" in 20 years? It took thousands of years for the sea level to rise *before the ice age and back then every human lived a mobile life style and could just move inland if their houses flooded. Nowadays millions of millions of people live under 1 meter above sea level. When sea level rises by 1 meter, which is going to happen, they will either have to erect massive sea walls, move, or die. It's going to take a while but on the East Coast of America there's regular flooding in Miami and New Jersey, not even when raining, on sunny days. YOU are part of the problem. The scientific consensus is that there's going to be devastating climate change in this century and unless we make a monumental effort to reverse it we will experience a massive loss in revenue and life.
My father used to work in a museum and was the manager of it, so he was pretty into history. We live on a small island in the North sea at the coast of Germany, so somewhere the Doggerland would be right now. And my father'd always tell me about Doggerland. He helped some institutions to explore it even further, because we live right on top of one of the old river valleys of the Doggerland. And when I told my friends about Doggerland and even talked to teachers about it, none of them knew what it was! It was like it only existed in my family and noone else knew about it....
Helgoland?
no. if doggerland had not been submerged, you would just be in germany. and probably under a glacier.
Imagine Britain had been colonized by Doggerland..
.
Half of the world : Takes a calm breath..
Other European countries would've done it. Britain wasn't the only country colonizing, they just happened to come out on top, not defending some of the shit the uk has caused other countries but without Britain colonizing we would be still living in the middle ages.
@@MrGeorge07 probably another huge war would've been there between all nations trying to take control, the same way it used to happen
Doggerland after conquering Britain: “hey, look at me. I’m the captain now”
@@MrGeorge0707 What about all the wars and invasions Britain had to endure in their lands, The Roman invasion, the Vikings, The Saxons, The Germans who invaded the Channel Isles during world war two ??????!!!!!!!!
No electricity, no railways, no canals, no cricket, no football, no English, no English common law, no industrial revolution and the explosion of material goods, no modern bicycle
Isostatic rebounding is a tounge in cheek point of national pride in Scotland. Scotland is literally rising while England is sinking. It's happening really slowly but still.
5cm per 100 years or so. Roughly.
It will be a great day to see if I'm still alive to witness the whole of England, Wales and 90% of Ireland sink below the sea.
Then the Dutch will come, and make England Netherlands 2
Ieuan Hunt If they don’t get independence they will in a couple trillion years XD
Dear god, forget the IRA that’s literally the world fighting for a Scottish republic
I like how you called all of the nordic countries, Norway
Yummpin YimminY!!!
@@Janibek35 Happy Trails to you until we meet again! Happy Trails to you! :)
Yeah they do it to the U.K. and call it all England not nice is it?
LOL
@@zhaoxiaomin8387 not the same tho, united countries vs separate countries
CCP: This land belongs to China since ancient times...
Khurram Naveed CCP: All we have to do is fill it in with some sand.
Lmao
I am Dutch and I contest this claim.
@@jjmacjjmac lmao
@@Leyrann you rightly should
Netherlands be like: *Time to start poldering*
I don't get the Netherlands meme
@@christianphillipampoloquio6484 Doggerland is basically the lost land of the Netherlands
@@christianphillipampoloquio6484 that, and their uhh.... questionable tendencies to star colonializing and pillaging stuff (coming from a guy whose country gut pillaged and colonialized by dutch decades ago.)
@@ch.7785 well you're not lying but come on your land had spices
We had to
Crazy to think Britain didn't used to be an island
Mattoafc 789 crazy to think the politicians of Britain think it’s not an island.
@@kacywatson6314 It´s crazy that people believe water is a barrier when it´s more of a highway.
Crazy to think everywhere is an island
@MicroChipz Shepton Mallet Beautiful
Crazy to think that Brexit is a thing too but...
If doggerland were still dry, the red light district of amsterdam would extend all the way to england and become its own country called hookerstan.
Robustus more like Hookerstad
E Macías I think it would be called hookerland
And they still wouldn't work with blacc guys
Hoerenland
Ronnie Boswell you must be fun at parties
"Dolphins have returned to Italy"
Meanwhile in Europe :
They returned to Ireland too lol
@@adamender9092
Gooooood
*north sea
@@Cupapet93
Goooooood
Italy… is in europe
"Thaymes" wat
"Seene" WAT
Yeah, a guy this dumb offering opinions about climate change is funny.
@@svengeorge6082 Give him a break he ain't from here
Interesting theory. As dutchmen i have 2 important question, where is the balance point for the netherlands? Would it help if we overflow belgium to keep us above sealevel?
Beste idee dat ik ooit gehoord heb
Yeah all the Diamonds lost
@@chriswetering79 ek stem saam.
Gaat niet werken want all het water gaat direct turug de maas en schelde in.
Belgium doesn't deserve it, we're better
Doggerland: *submerges*
Dutch people: "it's free real estate"
Evert AJ so you copied a popular comment and just change the country
Das reich theirs the exact same comment just Netherlands and that comment was created before this one
@@colonel1003 well ok who cares and secondly, I didn't even read the comments section before posting
@@colonel1003 the country is not changed tho, people that are from the Netherlands are Dutch. From a Dutchie :)
@@colonel1003 and so what if he is a scum?
10 meter wave thats not even tsunami: exists
Sealand: heavy breathing*
I don’t know about “Dogger”, but your pronunciation of the rivers of Europe needs some work! (“Thames” is pronounced “Tems”, “Seine” is pronounced “Sen”, etc.)
It's Tim's river
I was thinking the exact same thing! Lets be fair to the fella though, at least he acknowledges that a world exists beyond 'murica's borders that isn't just a place where they go and kill brown people that can't fight back......
@@billlyoliveman you know nothing about America don't you ?
@@rageterain Curiously, Irish people tend to call it Thames, even Irish people living in England, who hear it pronounced differently every day.
@@billlyoliveman 🖕
Doggerland? Isn’t that a car park just round the corner from Tesco?
It stretches from there all the way to a lay-by off of the M20
That's rapeland
Grr, I came to do that joke! Actually, that's fine, I'll just watch yours...
I have never been to Doggerland but my wife has.
Doggerland? do you mean GREATER GREATER NETHERLANDS?
also, G E K O L O N I S E E R D
Wat is gekonoliseerd? Is dat dat je konolies hebt?
@@noeraldinkabam Het is een grap die sommige mensen uit nederland online maken als in een video of text over Nederland gesproken wordt
r/ boi humor... Lol?
Lol
@@jojofreelancerkup7501 nog nooit van gehoord, zat al in de comments te kijken of iemand het wist
Doggerlanders are gonna be all rilled up, but Storegga Slide sounds like the coolest water slide in the world.
2:50 So Scandinavia is just all Norway nog? Wow, thanks
always has been
He said the specific country name it happens most to. And why does Norway look so messed up on this mans map tf???
Love how you put a ring around Fennoscandia, and Denmark, and then called it all Norway.
Hello from Denmark. I don't mind.
hahah thats true.
all of scandanavia should be norway anyhow beat down the swedes and danes
CirclesAreRound Don’t, PewDiePie is watching us...
@@circlesareround2351 No the whole of Europe should be called Scania.
Shallow land:
*Exists*
Dutch people:
*Earrape WILHELMUS VAN NASSOUWE*
@Anglo Commando
BEN IK VAN DUITSE BLOEDDDDD
"Nearly every square kilometer must be put to good use with no exceptions"
*Laughs in French aristocracy*
Imagine how different ww2 would be if doggerland stayed above sea level
🇩🇪 Would have taken it
I'm still choosing to hear it as "Doggoland"
Revive doggo heaven
I think we all know the Vikings would have taken control of Doggerland.
squttnbear not like the Vikings didn’t take control of practically all of the rest of Europe
Vikings literally took the land to the scandinavian peninsula, and stacked it up in the mountains xD
Not
Then Vikings wouldn't be using ships as much because the land was would be in their way.
@@dubbleyou248 And that's were Norways steep coast comes from
I don't know about dogger, but I do know that the river Thames is pronounced "temz". Just sayin'
@Semih Sahin If you are only irked by things that are killing you, then you are weird.
I'd love to have a topographical map with a time slider so we could see what land was above the surface at different times during human history, like how the Persian Gulf opened up to the Indian Ocean or when ancient coastal cities were swallowed by the sea!
Plus land bridges across south east Asia or Russia to north America
That should be a website that we can visit. And an app we can download
everyone is talk about the Netherlands but Italy LOOK SO THICK
you cant even see Italy in that map????
@@oppionatedindividual8256 0:37 shows italy's thiccness
Whats the meaning of thicc?
Whats the meaning of thicc
@@ascaro1885 spesso
5:00 Hypothesis: If Doggerland occupied the lands shown there, which would have landlocked the Netherlands and modern-day London, and if Doggerland was the confluence of rivers, then its major trade city / port would mostly replace all the major ones we know today to the immediate east and west: It would replace Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Antwerp. And to some degree London, because the modern site of London has great access to the sea but would be too far up the Thames estuary, which would move to Doggerland. I would guess the UK would have a different major trade city on its south coast instead of London, in that case. Perhaps some of those cities would still be where they are today, just not as big, and not as much of a focus of trade.
No doubt Britain would be the most affected, having a land connection to the mainland
@@foresthaviland3612 That would change history quite a lot, especially since England would have had to spend more in building an army - not being an island - and, by consequence less in the navy that made it so powerful.
But maybe it would have paradoxically have been more prepared to invasions like from the Romans or Vikings, as being an island gives a bigger sense of safety.
@@trezapoioiuy damn there goes the entire commonwealth and united states basically as a connected UK screws with the history
Altho such a lowland would likely only be safe/practical to traverse seasonally at best. It would have been constantly inundated by floods so perhaps a barge system would have been more efficient for trade.
I can see a combination of the Netherlands + systems along other major waterways in Europe where tolls were extracted from traders by feudal lords on river banks (castles and forts).
And no doubt river piracy would've been endemic
Think about if Doggerland was still there in WW2, a clear pathway for Hitler to enter England. Lessening the chance of the Battle of Britain
Forget Hitler, think Napoleon.
Or.... made it harder. We dont know if that Doggerland country would be allies of the nazis or the Antant. Or if it is one country or more. That big country/countrys easily could decided the fortune of Europe. The WW2 would be significantly quicker. I belive that the society and politics of Doggerland would be something similar to Brittain and the Beneluxe. So yes, the history would be significantly changed.
Except that Dogeland would already be part of England.
Even assuming countries would be as they are now, England would probably have been a lot different, having to focus more on its army instead of putting almost everything into the navy.
Think about germanys war against the soviets...they sent troops against 5 to 1 odds in winter, without warm clothing or even tanks that could compete against the T34. They threw millions of their men into a meat grinder for this. Now think about the battle of Britain, the U-boat war, and the collapse of the British economy and the fact that less than 500 aircraft were left to defend the island at one point...if you think the motivating factor in each attack was geographic you are a fool. The motivations were not based on terrain it was based on their level of hatred for their enemy and fortunately, the British were basically their brothers
Netherlands: *watches this video* There in land is the North Sea??
Thierry Baudet: *HEAVY BREATHING*
Those pronunciations of those Rivers was off 😂
Ethaniel Clyne the river tames
@@cydi3858 The river seen
I've "Seine" how he "Thames" the "Rhine"-o.
1:46 No I was asking "Did he just say tames?"
I feel like many people don't realize that Atlantis has a very specific description of what it looked like, how they lived, and how they perished. Which this fits none of.
Breadcrumbs my friend... ;) It's actually close by, and part of the same sinking stretch of land...
This video is literally the first time I've ever encountered mention of the Scheldt when I didn't go looking for it. Ever.
I have watched probably 10,000 videos on RUclips and this is the first time this river has been mentioned in any of them. Fucking magnificent.
So if Dogger Bank is that shallow, what if the Dutch came in and made polders there?
Don,t give us ideas
Has to be bounded by coasts
@@biketickler65 it doesn't have to be, it just makes it a shitton easier
Do it
Do what China's doing and build a ring of land around the whole region and gradually let it flood and fill/reclaim it.
In maybe an appropriate twist of fate, Dogger bank is going to be developed as a huge wind farm with some reclaimed land to boot.
Aimed as a joint European venture for sustainable energy.
...which is nice.
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You are brilliant. Thank you for asking and answering such fascinating questions.
Very nicely done - I like it that you keep things simple. I'm trying to see patterns in millions of years of Hominid activity, so a broad overview is what I need for now. I've been studying the movements of ancient Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals, trying to understand how changes in climate, landscape, massive volcanic activity and the rise and fall of resources needed for life affected those movements. Doggerland is another piece of that puzzle; thanks for putting this together.
I'm from the coast in Belgium and my family was orginally a fishing family, I still remember the stories of how many tusks of mammoths and other preshistoric materials they caught in their fishing nets, very interesting and cool!
Yea looking at where Doggerland was, it likely would have been extremely fertile. All those rivers that would have joined in it have historically had fertile banks, and as a general rule lowlands tend to do pretty well
When they're not being constantly devastated by floods
He protecc
He attacc
But most importantly, the sea claimed this land bacc
4:19 shows a map of current population density, a bit misleading when the period you are discussing is 6.000 BC or older.
Yea but where do you even find those?!
Somebody has obviously NEVER heard the word THAMES pronounced before. It's pronounced, "Temz"
Guys it's just pronounciation, people speak different dialects and some people just don't know how something is pronounced.
@Rasputin I doubt he would've looked up the pronounciation of a random river that he only mentions once. If you've always heard it pronounced like that, and think it's correct, then you probably won't change.
Just because you pronounce something wrong doesn't mean your dumb... If you think thats how it works you are the dumb one.
Ah, so that is why Germans pronounce it something like "Temmzer" writing "Temse"? Did not know that ... =)
When creating any content it’s important to know how things are pronounced. Imagine a BBC documentary where half of the places are mispronounced. It would be hard to take the narrator seriously as you can imagine.
Google is your friend for pronunciations. Even the Google Translate app does a pretty good job of correctly pronouncing places around the world. If you’ve gone through all the trouble of making this video you might else well round it off with the right pronunciations.
Wow that was pretty fascinating. I never realized that glacier melt is a one-two punch. Not just a rise in sea levels, but a fall in land levels due to isostatic rebounding.
Santorini is a better guess for Atlantis. Plato brought the story to the west from Egypt, and Egypt had a trade partner there before one of the largest volcanic eruptions in human history literally sunk the island. This was Akrotiri, a Minoan city that had in-door plumbing, paved streets, and everything Plato would have boasted about it all back in the Bronze Age (roughly until 1,500 BCE). Nobody would probably go to the island in the immediate aftermath, since this cast an almost apocalyptic shadow of dust as far as China (resulting in massive famines). So by the time Egypt went back to trade with them, the city would have been submerged under water and it's reasonable to assume with levels of education as they were, that people would make up a story about the gods sinking the city rather than realizing it was a super-volcano that erupted before their great-great-grand fathers were born.
I probably watched these early videos awhile ago, but interesting to revisit them! The microphone is better now, the delivery not as rushed, the jokes and style seem just as good back then as they are now. Great stuff! Looking forward to when the channel intro/logo appears, that's way cool.:🐧
Germany would've won ww2 if Doggerland existed
and ww1 the battle line would be soo much bigger and bloodier
Ritter Kreuz hmmmm but perhaps Hitler wouldn’t have exist or stuffs like that
Ritter Kreuz no.
The british splendid isolation politics woul've never happen. leading to a much more invested britain in Europe and not becoming such a large Empire. The Britihsh had to focus much more on an army than a navy
Germany might have not even existed...
There was plans to have artificial Islands in the area of the Doggerbank. Plans were screwed due to concerns that the wildlife could be disturbed (the Islands were meant to sustain Windparks, yet the area is a crucial hunting spot for birds so it was either the birds or renewable energy)
aniinnr choque the birds can hunt somewhere else, without clean energy it’ll be more than just birds dying. So like Europe, to let the planet die so one species of bird can hunt in peace.
Actually so glad that you mentioned our impact and how a few small changes could help the earth 🙏 interesting content too! I am really enjoying your channel
You‘ve expertly pre-emptively answerted all the questions I may or may not have hypothetically had over Doggerland. 👌
HOW DOES THIS CHANNEL NOT HAVE 100K SUBS!?
1mill!!!
Marquis De Sade LOL yep. He also narrates horribly and tries to edit the videos to be as “edgy” as possible when it just comes off as super awkward.
I’m not going to respect a person who has “Atlas” in their username and is talking about geography and can’t pronounce two famous and well known rivers correctly.
333 K now
@@BlownMacTruck cus u a fuck.
“points to Skyrim”
*NoRwAyy*
How to pronounce Doggerland? Go to google translate, select 'Dutch', type 'doggerland', hit the listen-button and there you go.
If you do that, you get something like "Dough-ker-lahnd" with the "ker" having a very strong glottal fricative.
You missed Bornholm in the Baltic Sea when you showed the map of today
Maybe we should ask the Dutch to reclaim Doggerland, make a huge POLDER out of it and make it also the ENERGY farm for all countries around it. Put Windmills there, solar panels, nuclear reactors (far away from populous area's) and use the remaining land for growing food. The Dutch are quite good in that since they are food export country nr 2, just after the US. That tiny country exports more food than entire Russia, which is like, a zillion time bigger. So imagine if we put Dutch engineering and technology and apply that to Doggerland? It would be awesome.
I bet closing up the English strait would fuck up ocean currents real good though. My guess would be that especially Norway would freeze their asses off crashing their fishing industry and destroying the corals there
@@frisianmouve We welcome them to DogeLand then
Fetuses are not allowed on youtube get off please
@@frisianmouve there are no coral reefs in Norway my friend....
@@florisbiezeman3800 Fine if you want to get technical like that, besides Norway then because Norway itself is land. Or you actually think there are no corals there in which case just google it.
dat warning to humankind at the end... never change atlas pro :)
@Marquis De Sade And I'm pretty sure there was no cars and large scale agriculture when the ice melted and drowned doggerland so maybe people shouldn't be so quick to blame everything on humans.
@@nuancematters If by "quick" you mean "more than 60 years of research into human caused CO2 emissions", then sure, we're too "quick".
I kind of want to make a map mod for ETS2 with Doggerland. Atlantis can be one of the cities.
We still have a place called Doggerland in the U.K. You can find it round the back of the big Asda in Hulme on a Friday night.
Only 15 to 30 Meters deep so I think it would be cool to reclaim it from the sea. That would be an awesome engineering project,
Maybe the EU countries can collectively fund it - German money, Dutch engineers and Polish builders - then they can build a New Britain there and just carry on like Brexit was never even a thing.
Semih Sahin wait 1000 years
Some Guy Britian and Ireland were 2 mountains and the land around it is hidden Europe that was apart of continental Europea. The sea from America flooded that side of Europe making Ireland and Britian to islands full of looneys. Idk if France was a mountain. It's like a huge creator.
I'm very skeptical of the tsunami theory. How can a tsunami permanently sink a large landmass?
My guess is it washed the soil from the island into the deeper parts of sea surrounding it. However, how would archeological artifacts remain on the Bank then?
Calculate the weight of such a volume of water and answer your own question.
SpazzyMcGee1337 its a theory
@@vodkawhisperer3923 a game theory
Because it is thought to have happened in several waves (excuse the pun) and not simply one tsunami. This would have taken thousands of years really and not a one off event like we witnessed in Japan and Indonesia in recent years. Also, sea levels would have risen a great deal, adding to the submersion of a lot of land, gradually.
Remember when this man had 10k subs. 10k Gang 🔥🔥🔥
I've worked over dogger bank a few times (offshore surveyor) and water depths rarely exceed 40m. Even had depths of 19m in some places.
Errosion might also have played a part. Germany and the Netherlands have the largest mudflats in the world, and there's been a couple of bad storms in recent centuries that completely washed away entire islands in a matter of days. That would certainly have been happening in the area for a long time.
Speaking of megatsunamis, the Tenerife waterslide threat would make a fun video.
*Doggerland would've needed a good dose of freedom from America*
*_That Oil looks like it needs some LIBERTY_*
@@halfishman5028
I didn't say anything about WWII or The United states. Just that the oil needs some good old Scottish Freedom and Liberty after Scotland becomes an independent nation.
Like the British in the world wars. Fighting in Arabia to get oil.
America was barely involved in the World Wars, only got into WWII when Pearl harbor was bombed.
@@sathlasdalaraynidridlendar6875 Barely involved? I think you've eating some spoiled Haggis...….!
@@jptang1701
They made huge impacts in thr war. They weren't involved for the first half of both wars though.
Edit: Tha's racist!
Doggerland better watch out before Russia or China thinks their citzens live there.
The narrator has a *FANTASTIC* sense of humor! It definitely helps to remember the info in this vid! 👍🤘🖖
Most shallowest part of the Dogger bank are only 13m deep. If you look at a marine atlas of the Dogger bank, you can see islands, peninsulas, mouths of rivers and even a lake. It's really cool.
Just speculation on this, but it """might""" have been a major stormtide, which happen all 100 years or so. Something similar but in smaller frame happened in 1362 at the saint marcellus' flood. Where multiple kilometers of land disappeared from the western coast of east Germany, killing estimated 25000 people.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_tides_of_the_North_Sea
my teachers would probably cut of my fingers for citing wikipedia but this is still interesting so
WOW MANY MANY PEOPLEEE THAT'S WILD ITS WEIRD BECAUSE IT HAPPENED SO LONG AGO BUT NOW WE KNOW ABOUT IT AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT.IT LIFE IS SO DIFFERENT IN THEIR TIME COMPARED TO NOW 👍
What would it be like? Basically (Norway + Netherlands + UK) ÷ 3. Surprise surprise 😂 also the G in Dutch is fricative. In other languages it's sometimes spelled kh.
God you're weird
@@tryingmybest206 whats up? You find knowledge and intelligence intimidating? You SURE you're not 'murican?
This is your best video, loved it!
Fantastic! Thankyou! Iv ben waiting for this! Sharing this immidetly! Damn!
Have you heard of the sadly not really real plan to build a polder in doggerland?
What?
Thames = T-EH-MZ. Not TAMES
No care, you yellow-toothed Brit.
Monokuma that’s xenophobic
I call it TH-EM-Z
Who the fuck cares
No one gives a shit
Despite my stated misgivings, this was well done, young man!
and in Europe we still go dogging to honor the memories of that lost land!
I don’t even know how to type out the pronunciation of Dogger to an English speaker
Sit Doggerland, sit!! Good dog.
2:50: Damn! That was a *HUUGE* Norway! At last the Norwegians got their revenge and conquered Sweden, Finland, Denmark and parts of the Baltics and Russia! (Or else, as an alternate interpretation, the right term should be the "Nordic" or "Scandinavia")
Fennoscandia pretty much defines the area covered perfectly, with the exception of Scania.
I like the quick and comprehensive synopsis : -)
Your pronunciation for doggerland was correct.
Sadly your pronunciation for European rivers was not.
Thames is pronounced tems
Seine is pronounced seign
Thames is pronounced "temz" and Seine is pronounced "sen" to rhyme with ten.
His pronunciation was correct for English speakers but it isn't pronounced like that in Dutch. And as the guy pointed out the word Dogger is a (old) Dutch word. With the iconic hard G sound of the Northern Netherlands
Anyone else prefer history with cave lions, mammoths, woolly rhinos and Sabretooths instead of actual dinosaurs?
I prefer it also, yes. More uncanny because it's relatable... humans experienced it, but it's so strange to us now. It's so much more mythical to me.
The water came from the flood of Noah's time. The ice caps froze at that time and preserved baby elephants with fresh vegetation in their stomachs. They died quickly and froze solid after drowning.
Napoleon looks at the ideal of doggerland with saddens.
Dogger Bank went insolvent.
This guy is so good good! he deserves way more views
Well...Editing was good, but he also circled like 5 countries and called them all Norway.
Would’ve been interesting if doggerland still existed.
Moral of the story: Don’t live near the coasts.