Why Do England Look So Bad At Euro 2024?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- England were the pre-tournament favourites heading into UEFA Euro 2024, and remain the favourites, ahead of a Round of Sixteen tie against Slovakia, having topped their group and only conceding one goal in three games.
And yet, England have been booed off the pitch by their own fans in two of their three matches at this Euros, and there isn't much positivity domestically with regard to the team's performances.
In this video, HITC Sevens looks at why England have failed to impress at the Euros, what can be done to fix it, and whether Gareth Southgate is capable of coming up with the necessary solutions.
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Long answer: Poor tactical management
Short answer: Gareth Southgate
Medium length answer:Southgate poor management
Nah players are overrated and it's just another case "golden generation". These players are system players, the only exceptions are the three mentioned by Alfie, other than those three all these players are not world beaters. These players though they have some talent lack creativity and spontaneity, Saka for example, of all the matches I've watched the only successful dribbles have been when a defender was on the back foot, he is extremely talented but is mentally gelded just like many of the players in this England team. Look at teams like Spain, Germany or Portugal who all have players who can turn a game on its head on a dime.
I'm not saying these are bad players, but this is international tournament football, which is almost never won just by tactics alone, you need players to have some freedom, not just tactically but mentally on the part of the players. Say a player at the highest level, the game is at its 70th minute and it's 0-0 and he's received the ball in a promising position outside the box, if it's an England player that ball is going to get passed around while even a Spanish player would attempt a shot.
That's the problem, there is absolutely spontaneity or creativity in this England team and that's more the fault of the way these players were brought up and English football culture which is more "European" in its emphasis on discipline and monotony even more than Germany or Spain.
Another reason. Players are overrated
@@whoisabdalle8295 maybe but they should be playing much better than they are showing. That's on Southgate.
Thank you!!!!
Bellingham's value on Transfermarkt is 180 million, pretty sure Southgate has shaved about 10 million off that valuation.
we won... he scored, and you whine.
The age of entitlement, and the decline of the English people is real.
There was a day when being English did not mean being an entitled Muppet.
Alfie, we urgently need a video on why Italian football, both club and national, has gone from glorious to completely sinking to the bottom of the Atlantic since 2010.
Rahem sterling is a key player for England natural winger who is dynamic n pacey which they are missing in the left flank this Euro
Yah true Somehow also grealish
@@mohamedjunior9361Man City have basically ruined the heart of England’s previous tournament sides. Phillips, Grealish, Sterling.
Can't blame the player in possession - there's nobody to pass to, no movement, no options. Just watch Spain instead!
True but there’s also times where the player in possession needs to be able to force the ball through the lines instead of doing 1 2s on the centre circle . Rodri and Ruiz are willing and capable of long balls into Nico Williams or firing passes into Pedri between the lines. Rice won’t even pass to Foden if he drops deep for a 5 yard pass if there’s someone in his general vicinity. All our attackers are used to having other teammates capable of progressing play into the final third whether that Kroos, Rodri or Jorginho so they wait for rice to figure it out which he just can’t. That why Phillips/Henderson were so important next to Rice because they had a good passing range to get the ball to wingers and get them a couple of seconds of isolation against a player in the last line. It’s what Mainoo did that Gallagher didn’t. It’s what Gordon did for himself in his cameo that lead to the Palmer chance.
Marco van Basten made a good point on Dutch TV. Too often England are passing directly to the feet instead of a few yards ahead for the player to run onto. Makes it very static and give the opposition time to react. The ball to Walker against Denmark for the goal, was one of very few exceptions!
@@karmaascendant3936 Yes!! You really get it
I reckon Freddy Adu is the missing piece of the puzzle.
HOT TAKE: england have played so many teams below their level that those teams went in KNOWING they'd park the bus whats annoying is when we do it after ONE goal...so i have hope for these reasons (bit english-rose tinted glasse but i try and be pretty objective tbh) at this point all WE can do is hope for the best anyway lol - also i have a pretty 'unique' lineup (5231) at the bottom too:
Pickford
Trent (RWB)* - Walker - Stones - Konsa - Saka(LWB) - both wing backs more attacking/overlaps
Rice (CM but more defensive/pass fwd, not dribble as much)
Bellingham (CM but can help us transition out of the middle 3rd we play our WHOLE game in)
Palmer (attack but drops if Saka overlaps up) - Foden (in his BEST #10 role) - Gordon (speed in transition never hurts when we cant transition to save our lives)
Kane - obv, though i see him coming short to lay off to the faster 5 around him in front/behind and then following up as a passing option or rebounds/positioning as he does
SUBS - extra important with how much extra time we've had
-Mainoo for somone beside Jude but maybe put HIM in Fodens wrong LW spot and let Foden have the 10 and see how it goes
- Eze for Palmer maybe 65th depending on how the games going
-If we can't get anything going bring Watkins on, EVEN if it means a late Kane sub in a tight game, he gives us counterattack speed against a SWI back 5 that sends its WB's fwd the way i suggest we do tbh, i just think we have the speed to get back where they dont re: counterattacks...and we can create in many other ways too imo (if things go well obv)
-Tripp could always come on for Saka and then slide Saka to RW if he's not getting worn out or ---Just sub them straight/give Shaw a run if he's ready cuz starting him in a semifinal after 6months out of competetive is insane imo)
-Bowen could play at RM/RW for Gordon esp if he burns out with the speed
-Gomes could replace the most tired of the back 3 esp if theres extra time etc
__________ WHY I THINK WE COULD STILL ACTUALLY WIN _________________
-As i said, we havent played a team that GIVES a chance for much counterattack with the insane speak in our front 5/6 and how fast someone like Jude/Rice can pass and move the ball upfield but we've been stuck in the middle third cuz every team we've played has camped out in the top of their third happy for a point
- England FAMOUSLY have a habit of playing up or down to the level of our opps - point is, it wouldnt be insane if we came out squeeked by the next two games with that tiny extra bit of quality and hopefully a sub or two but the final is really (i know im looking WAY ahead but im discussing this as all or nothing cuz imo thats what it comes down too for ENG/Southgate after losing on PK's in the last Euros and having a team of THE BEST/GREAT PLAYERS but not the BEST/GREATEST TEAM due to chemistry etc
-So following off that, say we do get through to the final which tech is the only game we'll be underdogs in betting/pundit wise (most likely) first off, any given game/night u never know what crazy call/VAR/mistake could change a game but beyond that, we play to our opps levels and i do think if ENG even playing like they are now, get a couple more games under their belt and THEN play SPA/FRA in the final (esp after how FRA looked today kinda meh imo, though SPA scares me more though they'd FORCE us to play faster footy which ya never know how itll play out in just ONE game) point is - DESPITE poor to hopefully bad permormances getting mediocre is a sign they'll get decent and better and when we do have to face a team of truly talented teams or individual players we'll be better prepared to handle them and not let the moment get too big (speaking of which holy shit those FRA PK's were teriffying, god help us if we face FRA on PK's)
-We are SLOWLY but steadily improving and we know we have the best players on paper which means the improvment is coming from the team gelling/chemistry (studies show teams take TWO YEARS to fully hit their peak in a new system...we had like under 2 months lol and so many new faces - so Gareth is just playing it safe with the tried and true aka the ones he DIDNT give shots to last time around FOR THE SAME REASON (bellingham in 20/22 was like palmer this year, everyone wanted him and he just couldnt get on for much at all)
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I know ill get ripped apart for any opinion but atleast try and be constructive, we're all fighting for the same hope and belief and if ur old enough to remember Greece in '04 playing Portugal in the final which was IN HOST NATION PORTUGAL (Fk em and chrissy tryna hide his tears after the last PK miss ones went viral lol, as a ENG fan you gotta love it if you lived through the years of torture from PK's/losses to POR/Ronaldo...
But re: Greece 04 - after a slew of jammy/set piece/OT 1-goal wins to get there then parking the bus (dont blame coach/team, greece was mid talent but smarter) and they pulled it off...does Gareth think we'll be Greece: The Sequel except on paper our team is prob 10x better than that 2004 OLD Greece squad lmfao and we're still struggling though it was def scary to see our DEF fumble and our Off fail when goin in everyone expected plenty of goals for AND against...
Regardless, its aint over till its over and we have a helluva team even with a shit coach and maybe having to be underdogs without expecations will help too either way COME ON LADS, ITS COMING HOME!!!!
Southgate´s playstyle and tactics would make sense if he were in charge of a squad with limitate talent where been pragmatic and very defensive is key. But... he has Harry Kane, Foden, Bellingham, Saka and Grealish at the attack. There´s ZERO EXCUSE to park the bus behind when England has THAT amount of fire power at the front.
@@badasstasticusbadass4908 yeah imagine having Toti, and pirlo and all those guys and being defensive as hell enough to bench del pierro for another defensive plug in like camoranesi
The easy draws for group and knockout stage during Southgate's era has been ridiculous.
All the favourites are on the other side again.
the issue is foden, he wants to be the focal point of the team. he's forced bellingham out wide left where bellingham has to do all of foden's defensive work. that creates a defacto double pivot that has to sit deep to compensate for foden's lack of contribution out of possession, which by extension has foden and kane competeing for the same areas and leaves saka isolated.
i also think kane's reputation is what's keeping watkins out of the team. watkin's has so much more to offer at this point in time.
Gareth Southgate's tactics are to bore the opponents into defeat it would seem.
Kane was injured more than we think . So was Southgate weak in letting him play too long?
Oh, I don't know if you read the comments, but a top XI ginger players would be fun (no hair dye!)
I'm sorry, how do you nominate 26 players without one left back,but one injured tourist.
Insane. Kane wins the golden boot in germany, bellingham demolishes laLiga and Foden is the PL-player of the year. It's not that they are underperforming, the seem utterly clueless as to what they are doing this tournament.
England coach looks timid. That doesn't inspire much confidence, just bloody awful if you ask me. Hell, even Berhalter shows him up and thats no complement..
Bellingham "squeaky clean"??? Huh? Dude reminds me of Pepé, Sergio Ramos or Diego Costa
Exactly Bro.
He has a weird, arrogant type of attitude that people seem to overlook. 🤷🏿♂️
hes nowhere near them 😂😂
@@constablekennedy7705 Dude was walking around like he was having an afternoon stroll....inside the first 30 minutes of the match.
Southgate has no balls, or he'd bench him.
@@LeftJoystick Agreed Bro
This is a Southgate issue. Almost all these players play in different systems at their clubs. You have players like Bellingham, Foden, and Kane who on paper don’t play the same positions but they like to be the in same areas of the pitch. Players are the manager’s disposal, Southgate needs to be able to instruct these players on what places to operate and if they don’t listen then don’t use them.
Foden needs to be dropped - He should have been a bench option to replace Bellingham after like 70 minutes each game rather than played out of position on the Left.
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Bellingham meanwhile was clearly tired and out of sorts against Slovenia and now he's going to be even more knackered having played the entirety of that game too - He should have been rested in that 3rd game with Foden replacing him at 10 and Gordon or Eze {who really didn't help his cause when coming on and playing like a prat against Denmark} on the Left.
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Kane is coming back way too much still - He's not doing his job and keeping the defenses honest!
We have Bellingham and Foden so why is Kane trying to do their jobs rather than his own!?!
Foden may have just benched himself by leaving the squad to return to England.
Eze was basically Mason Mount against Denmark. I wouldn’t think he’d be any different in another game.
Well after last nights abysmal display, we are definitely not going to beat Switzerland. Southgate could learn a lot from one Rassie Erasmus.....if a player isn't playing well, replace them. Just like Rassie did during the semi-final at the RWC....at least now Southgate has to make changes with Trippier injured and Guehi banned...
I always enjoy your more educational videos so I'd like to see a deep-dive into phoenix clubs and why is it that they give up all the trophies and history of the previous club in the UK (unless they're Rangers for some reason) while in other countries such as Italy, clubs get "phoenix'd" all the time and everyone just sort of assumes them as continuation of the previous one.
There is a crazy amount of pressure on Bellingham for his age. He has also got used to everything going his way.
I feel like in the current squad, with the LB issue, I probably would have put Saka there if I could. He's probably more capable there than Trippier is, having played there quite a lot a few years ago and also being predominantly left footed. Not sure if it would have worked, but it would have given freedom to run down the left.
The manager should have a clear style and set of tactics in mind.
You then put the best player in each position regardless of who is the ‘best 11’.
If that means leaving out a Foden in favour of Gordon (on the left) or Mainoo (to bolster the midfield) or Palmer then so be it.
The best TEAM is not always the best ELEVEN PLAYERS.
I would switch Saka to the left (he can play there), Foden to the right (where he looks best) drop Kane for Toney (Kane confuses the team's movement), put Bellingham at 10, have Rice be the deepest 6 on the left side to protect Trippier, Gallagher slightly ahead of him as a ball-winner, Trippier at leftback (sending diagonals to Foden when possible) Walker at rightback and a defensive pairing of Dunk (underrated) and Konsa (solid) ahead of Pickford (reliable).
So
ST. Toney (targetman)
LW. Saka (classic winger)
RW. Foden (wide inverted playmaker)
AM. Bellingham (second striker)
RDM. Gallagher (ball-winning box-box)
LDM. Rice (holding midfielder)
FBL. Tripper (inverted fullback)
FBR. Walker (classic fullback)
CBL. Dunk (centreback)
CBR. Konsa (centreback)
GK. Pickford (goalkeeper)
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 650)
I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
Keep going!
Let it go lil bro
Do you post these comments manually or use some kind of bot to do it for you at this point? If there's no bot I applaud your endurance.
I respect the hustle
Give your 7 there boss and see if we agree 😊
I think Wharton can handle it. He handled his England debut without an issue, I dont think the pressure gets to him.
1:06 Scotland scored no goals at all with only 1 shot on target.
The two goals they have on the stats sheet are both own goals.
I am surprised no one criticizes Saka, Bellingham was this season a difference maker in the majority of Real’s games.Foden was the best player in the pl, alongside Palmer and yet Saka always starts and does very little but 2 better right wingers are played out of possession or benched..
"What can go wrong, will go wrong" Stephen A Smith.
SAS 💀
was gonna sleep but you just ruined my night
We were in a favourable group and still managed to look poor. If we don't wake up for the knockouts then it's over.
Spot on about everything besides stones tbh. Him and Guehi have been the only bright spots imo
24:26 that's a bit harsh Alfie
Why Southgate has chosen Trippier at LB instead of Joe Gomez (who played well there for half of last season) is baffling. You have someone who can operate as a pushing full back/3rd CB left on the bench. He's not got it organised and England are floundering
Dont see why he doesnt just start Saka at LB, said it at half time in the first game 😂 does the exact job that Southgate wants! Allows, Bowen to play on the right (I just think he brings the brexitiness and speed, that Europe isn't used to) and just opens the game up a bit
Rather than bring two Crystal Palace players who he never uses (Eze, Wharton) or needs (I'm not including Dean Henderson as he'll be needed if Pickford gets injured or gets sent off against Virgil Van Dyk), he should have brought Tyrick Mitchell who is a Crystal Palace player he DESPERATELY needs.
Have England ever lost to Panama in the group stage of a tournament they were hosting? We have bigger problems across the Atlantic, Alfie. As an American, it’s my job to remind you that our plight is actually considerably worse and that everyone everywhere should always be talking about us.
Who cares?
tbf we were playing with 10 men most of the game due to the most brainless red card i’ve ever seen from tim weah but yeah we should have managed the game better.
Pickford: Stones, Guehi (would prefer to see Konsa really), Walker: Gordon, Mainoo, Rice, Foden, Palmer: Kane, Watkins.
Cannot expect Slovakia to be flying the ball from wing to wing and stretching us so flood midfield press high and break their spirit with technical aptitude.
A ford fiesta and Ferrari are the same when they're both being driven at 50mph
U need to be Southgate lawyer with the defence u'v had for him💀
I think current state of England and Southgate’s incompetence highlights why managers like Don Carlo who seamlessly creates a system based out of players at his disposal at their best is celebrated…
Drop Kane, let Watkins who is fully fit and coming off a great season play. Wharton alongside Rice. Then pump Shaw full of peds and make him play.
At least England tried to win vs Slovenia even if they did a horrible job of it. Belgium on the other hand did fuck all apart from Doku and DeBruyne. I also think more players should shoot themselves when given the opportunity instead of passing the ball around the edge of the box before losing it
I know it's radical but since it's pretty clearly Southgates last tournament. I think the best way to fix England's tactical problems is to completely change Personal (you have a squad for a reason). Bellingham and rice have both been underwhelming. Foden either can't understand that he needs to be a left winger or he doesn't want to despite England's lack of a left back and that kind of routine insubordination needs to be punished. Start Gordan, Wharton, Mainoo, and Watkins have Kane be a 10 or second striker. Move walker over to lb and start trent at rb. As honestly what do we have to lose
Edit: Also how are the set peices so bad without maguire its actually funny.
Wonder if this would change the fortunes of England (it won’t because Southgate won’t change his tactics still): Trippier (doubt Shaw will be fit until the SF), Guehi, Stones, Walker; Rice; Gordon, Foden, Palmer, Saka; Kane. But this team just has too many underlying issues to beat even Switzerland or Italy I think, though Italy do look fairly weak
Could also stay with a 4-2-3-1, same back 4, but Rice with Wharton, Gordon, Foden, and Saka, then Kane. But I honestly think this England team is horribly broken, and no amount of open heart surgery will fix this team
Please put Southgate as Man UTD manager, i wanna see them get demoted to championship.
He’s not an elite manager. Can you imagine Klopp or Guadiola with that talent do the same? Being Elite is to know what to do when things aren’t going well.
Call me a crazy armchair manager, but why not just pick someone like big Dan Burn who's a top level proven left back and have him warm the bench instead of a crippled injured player who isn't going to play. Absolute madness in my eyes.
Long answer: arrogant Players who are overrated and have a bad mindset
Short answer: Gareth Southgate
Guehi has been far short of excellent, I thought you at least would’ve noticed. He gave away a golden chance in all 3 games by losing the ball. Against Denmark he recovered it but not the other two. He’s poor and a good team will exploit this.
If you put Klopp or Pep in charge of this generation of English players we’d be odds on favourites to win every trophy. So it’s very simple the issue is the manager. Championship manager at best. Anyone got Jurgens number I know he’s not busy this week. 😂
Kane shouldn't play without runners. Bellingham, kane and foden try to occupy exactly the same space and do the same thing in each match. Kane acts like a 10 when u already have two on the pitch. Southgate needs to drop at least one of them to balance the middle of the park. They are all amazing but they can't win matches by getting in each other's way.
England wont make it past the QF
England is not as talented as they think.One major trophy 🏆 from 1966. It is cultural
I think unfortunately Kane and Bellingham on the same team with a second 6 doesnt work
I don't get why he doesn't switch to 4-3-3 that's the answer. Especially if you want Foden and Bellingham in the same side. It's the obvious solution!
1. No Chemistry and balance
2. No fit natural Lb to provide width on the left side
3. Too much hype which leads to extreme views, both negative and positive. And sadly its negative right now.
The arsenal bias is SO strong, you see it with Saka. Saka has gotten so much hate + basically being told to play put of position. Alfie is one of the few major media personalities who actually will say Saka has played decent so far.
Why grealish never playing
I jus read the title and was already in total agreement... mere hours after the Last of 16 match against Slovakia! I have never liked 1-0 victories, I don't like the idea of defending single goal leads, never have (a bitter sentiment left over from El Tel's time at Elland Road) and the first game was dull, to put it bluntly! The second game jus died after the equaliser! However, the third game was perfect, one I highly recommend you go watch the extended highlights... if you're an insomniac! Anyone else? Wel, there's always the paint drying channel!
And we still say that the biggest mistake concerning 'r'Kalvin was him leaving West Yorkshire! Change our minds!
I watch this pattern repeat every tournament from Scotland. Tournament starts England say they are going to win it but end up flying back before the final 😂 I want England to win it or any British team but England is usually our best bet but they never seem to do anything
England will never win a tournament against 'International style' football i.e. wrestle the opposition to the ground.
Gareth needs more well-drilled thugs behind the flamboyant superstars.
A better question: Why is the thumbnail a "thingy" on legs?
We know that England has been lucky, they have a easy way to the final, probably the hardest match will be against Italy and they are in poor shape, England will loosd the final (again) and Southgate will continue, and with that we all loose
Watching England is like watching a really boring horror movie.
same as watching the pommy and our Aussie cricket teams at the T20 world cup , both shit 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😁😁
Switching on an England match genuinely feels like homework.
@@seandunderdale 😂😂😂
Same with France.
Apt apology. Got me giggling. 😅
Long answer: Gareth Southgate
Short answer: Grth Sthgte
I think Southgate lost the last of the fans backing him when he said “we don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips.”
In his defense, I think people kind of took that wrong. What I heard was "a Kalvin Philips". It's Southgate's job to find a way, but England have two midfielders (Henderson and Philips) who were hardworking, dynamic, and important to the cohesion of the team at Euro 2020 and the WCs respectively, who have either through injuries or aging become unviable to bring in at major tournaments. Not to mention Luke Shaw as well. If he had brought him up, I don't think people would mock him nearly as much because everyone can see he's missed, so he definitely dug his own grave there.
Where I lose sympathy is his complete inability to find a way to tactically or man-for-man replace those players.
@@Billiamwoods If you're from Great Britain, it's 'defence'.
Southgate still has plenty of backers, it's just not worth trying to argue anymore. You can't convince doomers to think more rationally, especially if you're not entirely sure yourself
@Billiamwoods That sounds a bit more reasonable but with Bellingham they even have a player that could probably play a similar role. It's not like you really need him on the offensive side with so many great goal scorers besides him. I absolutely agree with your comment though, that kind of team shouldn't be relyant on Calvin Philips at all
Idk I lowkey agree with Gareth on that point, Kalvin was never worldclass but he was the best we had for a hardworking midfielder we can play alongside Rice in a double pivot, previously it had been Henderson and Kalvin doing that role but with Kalvin out of practice and Henderson old there isn’t a natural replacement in that position that matches the same style, arguably Mainoo fits the description but he’s young and inexperienced.
Pressure is definitely a factor with England this year, like it has been so many times before. Whether they should be able to handle that pressure is another question, but they're not. Other big teams have it too, and it is showing, but apart from the Netherlands (another team who often bottle it) they've all won a trophy recently, so it's less extreme. Our media are the worst too. Sky, Talksport et al, who hype us up as if we're bound to win it. The nation digests that and creates an unworkable environment for both player and manager in which they get very little thanks for winning and get slaughtered when they don't. The media are never going to fully admit that the pressure is getting to the players because it would be a complete conflict of interest on their part. They'd be partly to blame! This could affect the story machine and ultimately their profits. Much easier to pin it all on Southgate and create a feedback loop of negativity towards him which has now ballooned out of control. I'm not saying he's tactical genius, far from it, but when you look at how we played in the last three tournaments (when there was less pressure) you have to ask the question, what's changed? The players? They've literally got better! It doesn't fully explain these bad performances. The big names; Sake, Bellingham, Kane etc are playing with a weight on their shoulders and they are not enjoying themselves out there. It was especially noticeable against Denmark. The Slovenia game was better, and it's really encouraging that some of the bench players seem less affected by the pressure, but I'm expecting a repeat of Iceland 2016 against Slovakia. Hopefully I'm wrong and the boys can overcome these mental barriers and play how we know they can play. All we can do is get behind them all. Come on England!!!
Hi Tom :DDD
Whole lotta yapping
Couldn't agree more, people need to get behind the boys and actually offer support, we are our own worst enemy at this point IMO.
Get in!
We need you to run on the pitch and score a screamer, mate!
Day whatever: 7 best seasons before retirement of all time
Great shout
W idea
Do it after Kroos wins the euros
@@YDmaabhe ain’t winning it
@@kabirghai8709 we'll it doesn't look like that right about now...
We won our group not on the performance of our team, but because our opponents couldn't find a win in the rest of their games
if the opponents couldnt find a win in other games then isnt that a reflection of maybe we underestimated the ability of this group? denmark is a great team, not the best but definetly not the worst. Serbia is like a pendulum can be astronomically good or they can be astronomically bad, Slovenia well they just played their hearts out just like iceland did pre tourne. There wasnt a moment ive ever though england should have battered any of those teams.
That's literally how performance in a group is measured tho..
It was a group where each team was fairly defensive and stayed deep - tough to break down, lacking pace in forward positions etc. that’s why every team failed to score goals in the group. It’s simply how the teams set up. We found it difficult to break them down and didn’t quite find a solution, like all the teams in the group. We did enough and that’s all that really matters now. The games will look completely different when we come up against more positive teams, for better or worse. We’ll find out whether we suit playing against more positive teams when it comes to it, don’t be surprised if it is a good thing for us rather than a negative thing.
What should be said is we have been in control of the pace of each game (perhaps the Denmark game aside towards the end of the first half) far more than most other sides. Some of the so called better teams have struggled to keep control in games, even against lesser opposition. That suggests we aren’t quite as awful as we feel that we are.
@@ashleygoggs5679they should have battered their opponents but they just parked the bus for 90 minutes. These smaller nations are gonna lack offensive talent to break down teams that just park it.
that is EXACTLY how it went! but fans and the media want to gaslight us, because we "finished top"... it was a bloody accident! they will soon find out the hard way
Southgate. Hey, let's have an amazing squad of attacking players, and never want to score. Fucking brilliant.
it's genius if you think about it. For a long time I mean.
@@bushmonster1702wdym for a long time?
Classic England, really. When you go back and watch some of their big losses to smaller teams in the past, you can see the England national team (no matter the period) just passing the ball around the back and midfield without trying to have any impact on the game whatsoever.
You should watch the video mate. You might learn something about the game instead of just blaming it on gareth scapegoat because thats what everyone else does
So what you're saying is that Southgate got the lads together and said "Hey, guys, don't attack, okay?"
That's what you're claiming? Thick as shit, you people. I swear you think Southgate has an Xbox controller in the dugout.
24:26 Jesus, I know his tournament hasn't been great, but that's just extreme
Yeah, seems a bit harsh.
Crazy, I think he has been England’s best player so far.
He’s saying kane should’ve taken the shot himself instead of passing to palmer lol
@@andrejdespotovski4788what!??? I thought this RUclipsr was publicly telling a player to end their life!!! What a suprise!!
@@andrejdespotovski4788 nothing gets past you mate
The actual context of when you said: "I think Kane should've shot, himself"
And the context that my brain processed 😲...
I am really wondering that when Southgate is finally gone whether some players will raise their voices and say what's really been going on behind the curtain because something is definitely not right in that team.
Also, the squad SG nominated is a disaster. I don't know what he was thinking, not having one fit left-back that is left-footed. Absolutely mad.
And playing Kane at all in this state is irresponsible towards him and his club. It seems clear that he is not fit and a shadow of his usual self. Just play Palmer and save everyone a lot of trouble.
Southgate is, and has always been, a terribly unambitious manager and very defensive minded. He's coincided with an era where our talent are among the best in the world and extremely individually gifted but he's so set in his ways that he won't experiment. We've been blessed with having generous draws that have given us match-ups that we've been the stronger team but we've also also tended to fall short when the teams really bite back. Abusing him, or throwing items at him is not acceptable. He has, however, been given a lot of slack when the results have flattered to deceive. "We don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Philips" - bring him to the tournament then? You had the power to action this. You've shown before that you don't particularly care for form (see: Maguire last year).
To give him some credit, this year he has trended more urgent with his substitutes and made them sooner but he's not using them all and I can't fathom why. There is no cost to getting fresh legs on the pitch. You can't make an excuse that young players do not have experiencve if they aren't given a chance to play, it's criminal to bring players on for 5 or so minutes when the game is effectively gone and they won't get a touch.
He's also overly loyal to his talismans. Kane came in the tournament recovering from injury, is playing terribly out of position and outside of a goal which happened mostly to him not because of him (which isn't nothing ofc), he has been a hindrance. You say almost no one would say don't drop Kane. I am. He needs to be an impact substitute.
Win the tournament or not, this should be Southgate's final tenure as England manager and if England win the tournament, it's the ultimate fuck you to those who don't think he's very good like myself.
As for who's next for England post Southgate - Fuck the FA, their ego and need to control everything, Guardiola says he's probably on the way out of city. He's not won any international honour and it's the final boxes to tick for him. Winning a Euro or World Cup with England would be the final thing to seal him as the inarguable best manager of all time, given the ability England have to throw it away. Give him free rein of the England set up and a fat paycheck to get him in. It's a less intensive role for Pep so he can also take some time away from the game compared to a club manager.
Absolutely spot on, couldnt agree more. Unfortunately tho once Southgate leaves, we have a wider issue. A lack of top class English coaches. Also the FA are spineless and never get rid of managers at the right moment. Hodgson should have left after the awful 2014 WCup yet they kept him on until the next Euros. Same with Southgate, should have gone after the last World Cup but again gets to stay. FA would never hire the likes of Pep, Klopp etc, too opinionated and stubborn to be yes men. Southgate is a political yes man for them, thats all and Southgate is only the short term problem
Nice comment, agree fully
This is so true, I've never had any real belief in Southgate and wanted Potter to take over when he was let go by Chelsea
Imagine being this r't'rd'd lmao
@@1998CebolaRight, how’d he even become England manager being this r’t’rd’d?
It’s ironic that the part of the squad that so many were worried about pre-tournament (their defence) has been outstanding and their much lauded world class attack has been absolutely toothless
That's expected from a manger that was a defender.
Simple answer= Southgate.
They need North gate.
Maybe watch the video, mate.
Xd
yes the video also blames southgate saying how the wrong players are being played @@bonglesnodkins329
If you ask me, it's once again, a combination of the Press (not for the first time) getting over excited about England's chances, plus the team members clearly not being 100% and nerves over the pressure at home.
It's easy to say this, but the number of times they've unnecessarily passed back to Jordan Pickford, the lack of pressing and the sloppiness of their passes again and again, it's just frustrating to watch
100% agree
While the pressure surely plays a role, these are professional players who regularly have lots of pressure at a club level and know how to deal with it. Thsi really cannot be the reason, there is so many other teams like france or germany who also have high hopes and critical press, and they dont have these problems
How can you blame the press when the betting market had England as favourites and they’re still favourites?
And no that’s not because of England fans betting on them because bets from around the world affect the prices even with British based bookies
@@Lifelongloser "England are still favourites" 😂😂😂😂
@@SiVlog1989according to the bookies they are, before the tourament atleast
Issue: England does not produce elite managers. Evidence: no English manager has won the EPL or CL in their current formats. Southgate is bang average at best in an already underwhelming category. England have decent players which is enough to get past most teams but not enough without an elite manager to win anything.
They should just hire from another country. There's no rules on who you can hire. If your country has a great coach that's cool, but if not, why limit yourself?
@@geordiejones5618 None of the great footballing nations ever do. When did Spain, Germany, Italy, England, France last have a foreign coach?
@@finnb2318they produce great coaches though we don’t at some point we’ve gotta accept that
...so? do you think Joachim Low is an elite coach? You don't need necessarily need one to win trophies. And Southgate is just fine when it comes to being on the level of an international manager. The reason he should leave is the atmosphere for me, not because he is necessarily a bad coach, he did well before, just has ran his course and needs a change
Nothing forcing us to use English managers.
im sick of the idea that you cant drop kane, beacause he is kane. If hes injured he hinders the performance of the rest of the team, watkins v denmark was a breath of fresh air, and I wouldnt be opposed to see it from the start on sunday and rest kane
They did the same stuff with Wayne Rooney.
@@Nortech1 perfect example, and it screwed him later is his career, same with fernando torres and euro 2008
Remember ivory coast got rid of their manager part way in the tournament in afcon.
And won it afterwards
@@samuelschonenberger but not *because* they ditched the manager
meaningless
@@T.E.S.S. No but the fact that something crazy likr that happens is the magic of Afcon
@T.E.S.S. why is it meaningless? I'm not that deep into the ivory coast team but generally speaking a managerial change can give a (often only temporary) boost of morale. But maybe you know more than me about them.
i hate it when people call strikers "the best players", they cant do anything without a supportive midfield
I also hate when people say England deserved to make it out of the round of 16 and eliminate Slovakia, Switzerland, or the Netherlands. It's an absolutely deluded mentality and that's a fact.
Imagine having a bunch of the best attacking players in europe at the moment on your squad and still playing the most utterly uninspiring football ever...a feat only Southgate can manage lmao
Hey, maybe watch the video instead of being a lazy twat.
I have a feeling Phil Foden already sacrificed himself in secret pre-tournament ritual. It's how the powerful warlock Gareth Southgate manipulates the space-time continuum to get the incredible knockout stage draws that he does.
😂😂😂 Warlock southgate using a strong enchantment totem spell which has added a +12 luck to the whole England squad but at the cost of -6 speed and -3 agility to several key players but it should be worth it in the long run......
Because they play like a bunch of individuals rather than a team?
I've realised for years that England doesn't have any good managers. All the managers who have won the EPL or CL have been foreigners. Unfortunately England has had a huge lack of good tactical English managers for decades.
Nationality of managers or club players is irrelevant. Why is it necessary to have good english managers?
@@napolean_ragland You completely missed the point 🤦🏻♂️
Living in Australia and I think I've hit the nail on the head for instance why Australia for instance is better at most sports than England.
Take cricket for example, Australian attacking players are told to relax mentally, hype up physically and just go out and do what you do naturally. Same in both rugby codes etc.
I feel English players are extremely micromanagend, too much pressure on their play etc.
I would say, so what you missed a penalty in the pass, who cares what the pundits say. Go out, attackers, do what you do best
Its probably because cricket and rugby are way bigger in Australian culture than in English culture.
@tyciol9543 I was meaning in its mentality towards sports
@@PoetofHateSpeech And Im saying its not because of mentality that theyre better at rugby and cricket. Its because hardly anybody plays rugby and cricket in England, they are tiny sports here
@tyciol9543 lol what? I'm English, and both aren't tiny sports....Just because you're not interested in those sports doesn't make them tiny.
Plus, as they are replacing the English people with Indians and Pakis, football will eventually become smaller and smaller
The only thing I would criticize from Southgate is that he seems too afraid to change. If Foden or Saka are not working, put Eze or someone else. Try for a few minutes to play without Kane or Bellingham...
I think the criticism has gotten to him, really, and he's now afraid to go against the wishes of people. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he started Bellingham deeper and Foden at CAM at this point, just because people on the internet ask for it all the time
Southgate out Mike Bassett in!
I watched that the other day, it still holds up.
@@businesssecretsofthepharao8901 Starting Benson and Hedges would make all the difference!
Four four feckin two
@@Smrda1312 Crouchy and Charlie Austin up front ?
Benson and Hedges!😂
I think one of Southgate's biggest problems is he's scared of (or unable) making big decisions and cutting out players who don't work together. I have some sympathy for this, because I guarantee if he dropped someone like Kane or moved Bellingham into midfeld with Rice and, say, Mainoo and it didn't work, people would scream for his head even more than they do now.
England having so many of "the best players in the world" means that, of course, you have to start all of them. Starting a winger from a non-Champions League club (Gordon) for a treble winning dribbling god (Foden) sounds like insanity out of context.
Starting a winger from a non-Champions League club (Gordon) for a treble winning dribbling god (Foden) sounds like insanity out of context.
NO IT REALLY DOESN'T!
It's a TEAM game and Foden should have been on the bench as an option to replace Bellingham at 10 around the 70 minute mark in each game - This would mean that Bellingham wouldn't have been so tired against Slovenia, and Foden wouldn't be played out of position on the Left, and we'd have an actual Left Winger on the pitch!
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After the Denmark game and other results meaning England had already qualified for the second round Bellingham should have been rested against Slovenia, Foden could have been moved to 10 and Gordon or even Eze played on the Left.
Slovenia had seen our previous two games and knew the Saka/Walker partnership on the right was what they had to stop....They did stop it! They basically took Saka out of the game!
If we'd had an actual Left Winger on the pitch that wouldn't have happened!
with regards to the Foden point, if it doesn't work then sure, but Gordon's actually a left winger, Foden's a CAM through and through, he's being used the wrong way.
@@franohmsford7548it does stop being a hater
Well said
Yeah out of context, but if you said a natural cam is playing left wing and looks useless, but then you put the natural left wing player there and England for 2 minutes looked like they could play football, then regardless of context you pick the left winger
“Movement. Keep moving. Don’t slow it down, speed it up and put pressure on. If you lose the ball, chase it! Press! We have the pace, the skill, the ability! Create chances by taking chances! If it’s a one on one, take the one on one! You can beat them! Run in and around, confuse them, create spaces! Trust in your defence and we can brutalise them on the right, we should be owning the centre left Bellingham and Foden! Spread it out to an overlapping Trippier if you have to and Harry can run through the centre! Declan can reset in the mid if it comes back. Just always be thinking about moving forward and creating! That’s what I want to see. You lads have the talent, the creativity, dammit! Let’s fucking see some of that spirit! You’re playing for your country! Let’s get this fucking shit done!” - said Gareth Southgate never
England National Football Team are the Dallas Cowboys of Fifa!
You can put the New York Knicks, Toronto Maple Leafs, Chicago Cubs "before they broke their championship drought in 2016" and of course Tottenham Hotspur in there.
@@1990ThunderboltYankees, since 2009, in a way, belong in this group as well if we want a MLB team here
Is that you Alexi Lalas?
England are the Tottenham of international football, serial trophy dodgers lol.
@@SirAntoniousBlock the dodgers?
Nothings changed in any tournament
We’ve always been shit
Couldn’t Agree More Fella 😂. 💯
JFC are they lucky sometimes... Unbelievable lol.
you mean all the time, that's why I'm worried they will win just as undeservedly against Spain in the finals who have played infinitely better.
@@markymark443 really hope not. Hope Spain can do what Italy did last euros and WIN the final v. England. 🙏🙏 Hope it won't come down to penalties!!
Always funny to hear or read that England is favourite to win a Euro or World Cup - which is maybe true in the U.K. but nowhere else.
Domination of betting markets. It would be great to use that against them in betting, but it's not clear who will win. Especially, as the better teams are all on one side of the draw.
It’s funnier when we go out.
Only English thinks that 🤔 the rest of the UK don't
@MrTaktic121 only because you're jealous of the fact that on your best day, you still aren't half as good as England.
Have fun not qualifying for the world Cup again.
@@bipolarminddroppings England is the PSG of International Football 🤣 Big names, no trophies
Had Rico Henry not suffered his horrendous injury, he would’ve been a good option in this team while Shaw was unavailable. If your LB is right footed, your winger HAS to be someone who will hug the touchline so Gordon should start when Trippier plays LB.
Bring Harry Maguire back, he's the only one that can overtake this Own Goal guy
Scholes once went on the left to help out.
Were just repeating History now
I was thinking the same, if only giggs or bale or both played for England during that era
good quote "i think england should drop bellingham against slovakia"
A lucky last minute goal doesn't disprove the point. The team have played badly, saved only by pure talent.
@@awrebyawe lucky is a good way to say it. pure luck is the only thing that's carrying them and really scares me that spain will be the next team that's actually showed some skill to be robbed of the win they deserved just like slovakia and switzerland. I have never wanted a team to lose more badly than I do with this English side to the point where it almost feels petty. It's just so annoying and unfair to the other teams I've mentioned.
You cant spell Southgate without the word OUT
I see what you did there 👏
wow
Big if true
At least see if he can win the euros before ullulating for his head.
Genius.....