Hey, thanks for the mention! I have bookmarked a bunch of your tuts and will watch them when I find some time to learn Cascadeur. Excellent videos! Do you know about our Game Rig Tools addon, by the way? It does the whole rig copying and cleaning up with one click. The only thing you have to do manually is to re-parent the DEF bones. :)
Hey, thanks for the amazing videos :) Would be interesting to see your opinion about Cascadeur. I was considering using your addon for the tutorial, especially because you can easily detach the deformation rig from the control rig with one button. But in the end I decided that the manual workflow explains better why we need a separate rig and it's quite fast anyway. About not using the spine.001: I will give it a try.
@@AronNemeth95 Ah, I see. Yeah, that makes sense :) Let me know how it goes when you skip spine 001. It's a quirk of Rigify and you should get better retargeting of the lower body.
I'm verry interested to see a video on that pipeline from any of you :D i'm literaly scrayching your both channels for days to find a suitable pipeline to take the most advantage of both Game rig Tools and Cascadeour and hopefuly find a way to make my animation suitable for more then one character
FYI, this isn't possible with the free version of Cascadeur. Free license can not export FBX format. So you can't proceed beyond the 8:00 mark without buying a license.
Absolutely amazing tutorial! I really appreciate that you included the qrigcasc file! But do you also have the bone list file so we don't need to retarget ourself?
Yeh, its terrible. I don't get it. I understand there is no 'standard' per se, but good lord, in this day and age, can't there be 'a' standard at least for humanoid characters that actually works. None of them do... Cascadeur, AccurRig, Rokoko, etc... they all require crazy retargeting that rarely works at all, and when it does, the results are so off its more trouble than its worth... sigh.
Excellent tutorial! i figured out this method awhile ago and im glad to say its almost exactly as how you do it here. Unfortunately, I decided not to go with the rigify rig in the end as rokoko has been quite inconsistent with being able to retarget animations. which makes me not want to animate with it anymore.
@@AronNemeth95 I'm using cc4/iclone8 exported direct to casc. Casc recognises iclones rigs and mesh automatically which makes it easier since animations do not need to be retargeted, instead they are imported exactly as it has been animated when exprting back to iclone. From there u can export to render in UE5 or blender should you wish. In terms of blender, I've not found a viable rig that can create a seamless workflow between the two programs unless you build the rig yourself.
Oh great, cc4 looks amazing, but quite expensive. If you don't need a control rig you can use any kind of rig without retargeting in Blender. Like mixamo rig or Accurig.
@@AronNemeth95 yes u can. But then the idea to using casc in the workflow is so that you can bring the animations into a rendering software where u can make adjustments easily with an IK rig. Also if u wanted to add things like facial expressions and have additional animations there needs to be a control rig. So right now without any of that, casc is pretty limited in its uses in blender imo.
@@poochyboi I'm having trouble with an CC4/Iclone8 workflow. I export a CC4 rig in Tpose as it seems Cascadeur handles that better than Apose. I animate in Cascadeur, but I get problems if I import it into either Iclone8 or Blender.
Awesome tutorial but for me Rokoko doesnt want to save or let me export the bone list whatsoever. Im not interested in remapping all the bones every single time. I will try autorig pro for the retargetting.
I don't have Auto-Rig Pro unfortunately, but this is what I would try. If you have the full version I would try to use the game engine export feature. Probably need to experiment with the export settings to get an armature that works well in Cascadeur. Then when you are finished in Cascadeur import the animation back to Blender and use the Remap feature to retarget to the original rig. You could also try to use blenders default fbx exporter and only export the deformation bones. I don't know what bones would be exported though. If you have any success I would also be curious :)
@@AronNemeth95 thank you! I've managed to remap most of the animation. But I think my mistake was that I used Auto Rig Pro's remap feature instead of Rokoko. It seems to change the rig quite a bit and my model doesn't handle that very well. I'll try again with Rokoko. I'll let you know :)
I have a custom dragon rig, so deleting the non-deformative bones has destroyed my rig and I can't proceed. I cannot also just choose layer 30, I have different layer settings. What do I keep for limbs? IK, FK or tweak?
You can import a rig with facial bones, but using facial rig is not really supported yet. They will probably do it in the future: trello.com/b/oNlIizJh/cascadeur-roadmap
Hi, in blender I have accidentally move my rig and mesh far from the center. But I couldn't undo it because I have saved it. How can I put my rig and mesh back to center?
what ever i try I always get this error in rokoko: "Python: Traceback (most recent call last): File "... okoko-studio-live-blender-master\operators etargeting.py", line 128, in execute custom_schemes_manager.save_retargeting_to_list() File "... okoko-studio-live-blender-master\core\custom_schemes_manager.py", line 54, in save_retargeting_to_list if bone_name_target not in detection_manager.bone_detection_list_custom[bone_name_key_detected]: KeyError: 'custom_bone_def-spine.001' "
I find this weird Error " custom_schemes_manager.save_retargeting_to_list() if bone_name_target not in detection_manager.bone_detection_list_custom[bone_name_key_detected]: KeyError: 'custom_bone_def-spine' " I even tried aligning Target Rig to the source and chose "Use Pose" as current, yet its the same. Also haven't added custom entry named DEF-spine. Don't know what's going on
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Oh, and regarding the problem with the retargeted result:
try to NOT retarget spine.001. Just leave it blank and see if that improves the result :)
It's amazing to see a tutorial channel around cascadeur, the software seems really promising. thanks!
Hey, thanks for the mention! I have bookmarked a bunch of your tuts and will watch them when I find some time to learn Cascadeur. Excellent videos!
Do you know about our Game Rig Tools addon, by the way?
It does the whole rig copying and cleaning up with one click. The only thing you have to do manually is to re-parent the DEF bones. :)
Hey, thanks for the amazing videos :)
Would be interesting to see your opinion about Cascadeur.
I was considering using your addon for the tutorial, especially because you can easily detach the deformation rig from the control rig with one button.
But in the end I decided that the manual workflow explains better why we need a separate rig and it's quite fast anyway.
About not using the spine.001: I will give it a try.
@@AronNemeth95 Ah, I see. Yeah, that makes sense :)
Let me know how it goes when you skip spine 001. It's a quirk of Rigify and you should get better retargeting of the lower body.
I'm verry interested to see a video on that pipeline from any of you :D i'm literaly scrayching your both channels for days to find a suitable pipeline to take the most advantage of both Game rig Tools and Cascadeour and hopefuly find a way to make my animation suitable for more then one character
I'm new to Cascadeur and uploading from Blender is so easy thanks to your helpful tutorial.
FYI, this isn't possible with the free version of Cascadeur. Free license can not export FBX format. So you can't proceed beyond the 8:00 mark without buying a license.
unless one was able to search for a cracked version of cascadeur
Stumbled across this video and it saved my life! Thanks a ton Aron!
Great tutorial and super helpful 😘😘😘😘😘😘
Absolutely amazing tutorial! I really appreciate that you included the qrigcasc file! But do you also have the bone list file so we don't need to retarget ourself?
Cascadeur would be such a great tool for me if the workflow with Blender wasnt so ass.
Yeh, its terrible. I don't get it. I understand there is no 'standard' per se, but good lord, in this day and age, can't there be 'a' standard at least for humanoid characters that actually works. None of them do... Cascadeur, AccurRig, Rokoko, etc... they all require crazy retargeting that rarely works at all, and when it does, the results are so off its more trouble than its worth... sigh.
rokoko retarget get lots of problem， i use autorig pro to remap the bone to rigify IK and it works finally
Very helpful, thanks!
Excellent tutorial! i figured out this method awhile ago and im glad to say its almost exactly as how you do it here. Unfortunately, I decided not to go with the rigify rig in the end as rokoko has been quite inconsistent with being able to retarget animations. which makes me not want to animate with it anymore.
Thank you)
Yeah it seems like you always need to correct the animation after retargeting.
So what did you end up using?
@@AronNemeth95 I'm using cc4/iclone8 exported direct to casc. Casc recognises iclones rigs and mesh automatically which makes it easier since animations do not need to be retargeted, instead they are imported exactly as it has been animated when exprting back to iclone. From there u can export to render in UE5 or blender should you wish. In terms of blender, I've not found a viable rig that can create a seamless workflow between the two programs unless you build the rig yourself.
Oh great, cc4 looks amazing, but quite expensive.
If you don't need a control rig you can use any kind of rig without retargeting in Blender. Like mixamo rig or Accurig.
@@AronNemeth95 yes u can. But then the idea to using casc in the workflow is so that you can bring the animations into a rendering software where u can make adjustments easily with an IK rig. Also if u wanted to add things like facial expressions and have additional animations there needs to be a control rig. So right now without any of that, casc is pretty limited in its uses in blender imo.
@@poochyboi I'm having trouble with an CC4/Iclone8 workflow. I export a CC4 rig in Tpose as it seems Cascadeur handles that better than Apose. I animate in Cascadeur, but I get problems if I import it into either Iclone8 or Blender.
Great tutorial and super helpful
But every time i have to export it in cascadeur I have to do the delete bones thing?
The character hunching during Autopose update is a known problem. May I understand how do you fix this issue?
Could u do a video on how to apply auto posing in the characters hand?
Awesome tutorial but for me Rokoko doesnt want to save or let me export the bone list whatsoever. Im not interested in remapping all the bones every single time. I will try autorig pro for the retargetting.
Awesome! I've tried this with Auto-RigPro, however it doesn't work out quite as well as with Rigify. Do you maybe have any suggestions?
I don't have Auto-Rig Pro unfortunately, but this is what I would try.
If you have the full version I would try to use the game engine export feature. Probably need to experiment with the export settings to get an armature that works well in Cascadeur. Then when you are finished in Cascadeur import the animation back to Blender and use the Remap feature to retarget to the original rig.
You could also try to use blenders default fbx exporter and only export the deformation bones. I don't know what bones would be exported though.
If you have any success I would also be curious :)
@@AronNemeth95 thank you! I've managed to remap most of the animation. But I think my mistake was that I used Auto Rig Pro's remap feature instead of Rokoko. It seems to change the rig quite a bit and my model doesn't handle that very well. I'll try again with Rokoko. I'll let you know :)
I’m having problems exporting the righ back into blender
Good tutorial, thank you!
I have a custom dragon rig, so deleting the non-deformative bones has destroyed my rig and I can't proceed. I cannot also just choose layer 30, I have different layer settings. What do I keep for limbs? IK, FK or tweak?
Can you do one for autorig pro?
Sorry I don't have it and I'm no familiar what kind of rig it generates
great tutorial！ really helpful 谢谢
What about characters with facial rigs? Does cascadeur allow for those?
You can import a rig with facial bones, but using facial rig is not really supported yet.
They will probably do it in the future: trello.com/b/oNlIizJh/cascadeur-roadmap
@@AronNemeth95 Thanks!
Am completely new to blender and when I opened the spider Man rig it didn't display the bones that were meant to be in him any help
I believe there is a setting to enable the view of the rig, I'm still learning also.
can this method be used woht the new blender cascadeur birdge addon?
Unfortunately not but should be possible to do it in the future 😀
Hi, in blender I have accidentally move my rig and mesh far from the center. But I couldn't undo it because I have saved it. How can I put my rig and mesh back to center?
Try to use the snap tool... Is the Magnet icon up to the viewport. Then apply the transformation to deltas. Idk if it's works but worth a try
what ever i try I always get this error in rokoko:
"Python: Traceback (most recent call last):
File "...
okoko-studio-live-blender-master\operators
etargeting.py", line 128, in execute
custom_schemes_manager.save_retargeting_to_list()
File "...
okoko-studio-live-blender-master\core\custom_schemes_manager.py", line 54, in save_retargeting_to_list
if bone_name_target not in detection_manager.bone_detection_list_custom[bone_name_key_detected]:
KeyError: 'custom_bone_def-spine.001'
"
have u solved this problem？
Very interesting and relevant to me, but I don't understand it
I find this weird Error "
custom_schemes_manager.save_retargeting_to_list()
if bone_name_target not in detection_manager.bone_detection_list_custom[bone_name_key_detected]:
KeyError: 'custom_bone_def-spine' "
I even tried aligning Target Rig to the source and chose "Use Pose" as current, yet its the same. Also haven't added custom entry named DEF-spine. Don't know what's going on
I think, export and import list function' do not work...
after clearing the custom name list, it finally got fixed 🫡
hey bro can u tell me how to clearing the custom name@@hokagedes2207
Looks like as lot of work
model is not behaving properly it get very unpropern mesh distortions