As an architect and engineer I work out projects in Revit and Archicad. Revit if the client asks for it, ArchiCad if I can make the choice myself. I do not agree that the size of the project is in favour of choosing the package. Comparing the creation of families vs gdl objects is not correct. It is hardly necessary to create gdl objects (I never do it). Creating families in Revit takes a lot of time. Creating windows, doors, columns, beams, etc. can easily be done from ArchiCad, no GDL objects needed. In Revit I have to create (time consuming) families. In addition, I experience that with larger projects Revit becomes annoyingly slow. ArchiCad had this in the past as well but has worked on it. In relative terms, we experience that the elaboration of projects in ArchiCad is faster. Also creating publishing sets in ArchCad is a breath of fresh air compared to creating sheets in Revit. And I haven't even started talking about the modules (AC) versus groups (Revit).
Thanks Tom! Yea I certainly agree that it’s much better to have more customization within project rather than everything is dependent on families. Coming from Revit to Archicad there is a bias to relying on families and editing them. If you do want to edit GDL its not intuitive and there are times when you want that utmost control. I am glad you like Archicad and wish it was more widely adopted across the industry. Thanks for the insight on speed I was not aware about that, are you running a pc or Mac? Also huge perk is it runs on Mac! What do you think about the integration and sharing between engineering models in both programs. And is that auto update structure adaptive model practical or still needs more development? Thanks again!
Nate - Great info. I've never used VisualARQ; however, I've invested time w/most BIM tools -- and Rhino+VisualARQ's conceptual approach is very similar to BricsCAD BIM's approach. While I'm not a daily BricsCAD BIM user; I've used it enough to see how beautifully they have implemented the same process: Conceptual-Modeling-to-BIM/IFC classifications. If you haven't watched a video on this feature, I highly recommend it. Try to find one of the videos that refers to using AI to propagate changes. It's like having the VisualARQ grasshopper functionality kick-in automatically without any effort/configuration on the side of the user.
I observed this way, First ArchiCAD got live connection with grasshopper and Rhino, then Revit got Dynamo. Isn't it? -ArchiCAD is also good in huge/ skyscrapers projects.
Where I used to work MEP coordination worked well with the exception of a few issues However now with the new update which will update the mep model as you move items around might be really helpful and make that coordination stronger/ more seamless.
just curious, what is ArchiCADs version of 360 docs / design collaboration and coordination? can teams live link in other disciplines models and automate clash detection all embedded within a docs CDE in the cloud? This has to be a serious consideration for effective multi-disciplinary collaboration. Open BIM sounds great in theory, but I cant see buildingsmart / IFC keeping up with Autodesks r+d.
Please do your research Archicad has been leading the way in BIM for many years. There is no need for 360 docs because it's embedded in the program, Also Teamwork collaboration, MEP, Structural, and many more. Archicad is compatible with many programs, unlike Revit. You can drag and drop a DWG into Archicad with no problem with all the layers. You can drag and drop a PDF and make it into a vector file. Archicad can be used on a Mac or PC and it is more powerful than Revit especially for larger projects.
@@williammoses8145 im not seeing any native archicad functionality for a lot of features in autodesk construction cloud, perhaps you should do your research. ie. native model interoperability with submittals, rfis, issues, 3d photos, etc. Archicad is compatible with many other platforms, because it needs to be. Autodesk doesnt, it can import its own dwgs and a lot more, and Autodesk pretty much invented .ifc, so suck it up. If Archicad is 'leading the way', why is most of the world using Revit?
Good point, Vectorworks should be considered along with Archicad/Revit. It might even be even better to do a Archicad/Vectorworks comparison since they both can run on mac, and they tend to appeal to similar audiences (tend to be smaller firms, or are tired of AutoDesk). Do you have experience with teamshare, as I have heard issues with vectorworks on working with teams on one file, which would be tremendous consideration if you work on larger projects. One of the reasons I did not give it more attention is that I have not worked with it in a firm, I learned it as a student back 2011, and it has changed significantly since then, now it has scripting etc. Unfortunately Revit has dominated the market in the U.S. which makes it appealing because a lot of people use it. Also Revit has a robust teamwork workflow that I have really started to appreciate after using archicad which is good, but can be a bit clunky because you need always be requesting elements. Thanks for the comment!
What do u mean by Archicad is good for small to medium size of project and revit is great for skyscrapers .. let me correct u most of iconic and huge projects in Dubai have been done using Archicad and so many around the world .. u also forgot the great link between rhino , grasshoppers and Archicad , dynamo is always crash in revit u know that . About the price .. Archicad is cheaper cuz u pay one time it will stay with u for ever unless u wanna renew for small a mount of money unlike revit u will have to pay 2000 Dollar for renew every year . Plus revit is gorilla so heavy on machines Unlike Archicad . But in my opinion there is one software that might destroy both of them which is Archline xp 2020 . With it's very powerful tools and ease .. with great value of money .. only 2300 $ for life time license . And it has it all , Architectural , Structural , interior design and mep . I think that the only issue with it is the marketing .
Thanks for the correction that is a good point, I was mostly thinking of the firms here in the U.S. and locally. I am curious how the firms that do skyscrapers do things like stair cores, elevators etc. Have they figured out a way to bi-pass multi-level stairs? I should update the price, whats hard is they don't post it, but I have heard from people at least where I live that ArchiCad is cheaper, but this would have to be compared on a case by case basis because archicad's pricing changes. Is there anything Archline can do that other BIM softwares cant? I am always skeptical of new softwares. It seems like Archiline team sync doesnt work as well as revit or archicad. Also software support and forums are another thing to consider. Thanks for the comment.
Oh I almost forgot, I use the ArchiCAD grasshopper connection which works pretty well. however, there are ways to use grasshopper for Revit, and there is a lot of resources for dynamo.
@@NatesStudioDesk Archline is really new but powerful B.I.M software , I haven't seen such ease of use and great flexibility in any other BIM software . Please take a look into it or u can download a trail version , u have no idea how fun and easy to work with Archline xp , the only missing tool is concrete reinforcement ( rebar ) and green architecture analysis ( Leed ) , model clash detection can be done using solibri .
Nice overview. I've been using Revit for the last 2,5 years. I've commented this in another video. But somehow I think ArchiCAD has better UI and faster workflow. The firm i work in is more structure orientated. Is it true that Revit is better suited for structural designing and documentation? 1 argument I hear allot and also u mentioned is that Revit's view templates are more versatile which i imagine is a great plus for a BIM design app. Any opinions on the new BricsCAD release?
He Ez Tutor, my take is that both are not great with the integration of structural. Major firms in UK recently condemned Revits lack of development and issues with integration (including Zaha). I personally think switching softwares is not worth it, you are looking at two years of getting up to speed, getting the workflow down, adding custom library items etc. I would just focus on how to work around the issues you are having, if you switched one thing might work better and then you will find another thing that doesnt. I will have to look into BricsCAD. ArchiCad does have a new Integrated Structural Analytical Model, which autogenerates structure from SAF, and IFC, more info: helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/127183/
As an architect and engineer I work out projects in Revit and Archicad. Revit if the client asks for it, ArchiCad if I can make the choice myself. I do not agree that the size of the project is in favour of choosing the package. Comparing the creation of families vs gdl objects is not correct. It is hardly necessary to create gdl objects (I never do it). Creating families in Revit takes a lot of time. Creating windows, doors, columns, beams, etc. can easily be done from ArchiCad, no GDL objects needed. In Revit I have to create (time consuming) families. In addition, I experience that with larger projects Revit becomes annoyingly slow. ArchiCad had this in the past as well but has worked on it. In relative terms, we experience that the elaboration of projects in ArchiCad is faster. Also creating publishing sets in ArchCad is a breath of fresh air compared to creating sheets in Revit. And I haven't even started talking about the modules (AC) versus groups (Revit).
Thanks Tom! Yea I certainly agree that it’s much better to have more customization within project rather than everything is dependent on families. Coming from Revit to Archicad there is a bias to relying on families and editing them. If you do want to edit GDL its not intuitive and there are times when you want that utmost control. I am glad you like Archicad and wish it was more widely adopted across the industry. Thanks for the insight on speed I was not aware about that, are you running a pc or Mac? Also huge perk is it runs on Mac! What do you think about the integration and sharing between engineering models in both programs. And is that auto update structure adaptive model practical or still needs more development? Thanks again!
Unbiased, informative, and correct.
Much appreciated!
Great comparison video - this is my favourite one I've seen to date!
Good call on visual arc, and very little bias i could pick up on. Subd!
Thanks Aussie BIM Guru!! Maybe I will make more comparison videos :)
Nate - Great info. I've never used VisualARQ; however, I've invested time w/most BIM tools -- and Rhino+VisualARQ's conceptual approach is very similar to BricsCAD BIM's approach.
While I'm not a daily BricsCAD BIM user; I've used it enough to see how beautifully they have implemented the same process: Conceptual-Modeling-to-BIM/IFC classifications.
If you haven't watched a video on this feature, I highly recommend it. Try to find one of the videos that refers to using AI to propagate changes. It's like having the VisualARQ grasshopper functionality kick-in automatically without any effort/configuration on the side of the user.
For individual users and small firms ( and maybe big ones too don't know )...No need to hesitate ! Archicad is the Best Software !!
What makes you say that have you used Revit?
Yes i used it. I didn't like it and loved Archicad.
I observed this way, First ArchiCAD got live connection with grasshopper and Rhino, then Revit got Dynamo. Isn't it?
-ArchiCAD is also good in huge/ skyscrapers projects.
You can now do rhino/grasshopper in Revit.
@@NatesStudioDesk Oh!. Great.
Nate, it'd be interesting for you to compare ArchiCad and Vectorworks since both softwares are from the same parent company.
Sounds good, there are also updates I would like to make regarding archicad. I also wonder if at some point archicad/vector works will merge?
what about MEP systems for the models built in Archicad ?
Where I used to work MEP coordination worked well with the exception of a few issues However now with the new update which will update the mep model as you move items around might be really helpful and make that coordination stronger/ more seamless.
just curious, what is ArchiCADs version of 360 docs / design collaboration and coordination? can teams live link in other disciplines models and automate clash detection all embedded within a docs CDE in the cloud? This has to be a serious consideration for effective multi-disciplinary collaboration. Open BIM sounds great in theory, but I cant see buildingsmart / IFC keeping up with Autodesks r+d.
Please do your research Archicad has been leading the way in BIM for many years. There is no need for 360 docs because it's embedded in the program, Also Teamwork collaboration, MEP, Structural, and many more. Archicad is compatible with many programs, unlike Revit. You can drag and drop a DWG into Archicad with no problem with all the layers. You can drag and drop a PDF and make it into a vector file. Archicad can be used on a Mac or PC and it is more powerful than Revit especially for larger projects.
@@williammoses8145 im not seeing any native archicad functionality for a lot of features in autodesk construction cloud, perhaps you should do your research. ie. native model interoperability with submittals, rfis, issues, 3d photos, etc. Archicad is compatible with many other platforms, because it needs to be. Autodesk doesnt, it can import its own dwgs and a lot more, and Autodesk pretty much invented .ifc, so suck it up. If Archicad is 'leading the way', why is most of the world using Revit?
heard mentality and the weak position architects have
Nicely described.
Thank you! Let me know if there are other videos you would like to see. Thanks for the support!
I know why people jump the talk about the DDS-Cad and Allplan, but what about the Vectorworks and Brickscad ?
Good point, Vectorworks should be considered along with Archicad/Revit. It might even be even better to do a Archicad/Vectorworks comparison since they both can run on mac, and they tend to appeal to similar audiences (tend to be smaller firms, or are tired of AutoDesk). Do you have experience with teamshare, as I have heard issues with vectorworks on working with teams on one file, which would be tremendous consideration if you work on larger projects. One of the reasons I did not give it more attention is that I have not worked with it in a firm, I learned it as a student back 2011, and it has changed significantly since then, now it has scripting etc. Unfortunately Revit has dominated the market in the U.S. which makes it appealing because a lot of people use it. Also Revit has a robust teamwork workflow that I have really started to appreciate after using archicad which is good, but can be a bit clunky because you need always be requesting elements. Thanks for the comment!
What do u mean by Archicad is good for small to medium size of project and revit is great for skyscrapers .. let me correct u most of iconic and huge projects in Dubai have been done using Archicad and so many around the world .. u also forgot the great link between rhino , grasshoppers and Archicad , dynamo is always crash in revit u know that .
About the price .. Archicad is cheaper cuz u pay one time it will stay with u for ever unless u wanna renew for small a mount of money unlike revit u will have to pay 2000 Dollar for renew every year .
Plus revit is gorilla so heavy on machines
Unlike Archicad .
But in my opinion there is one software that might destroy both of them which is
Archline xp 2020 . With it's very powerful tools and ease .. with great value of money .. only 2300 $ for life time license . And it has it all , Architectural , Structural , interior design and mep .
I think that the only issue with it is the marketing .
Thanks for the correction that is a good point, I was mostly thinking of the firms here in the U.S. and locally. I am curious how the firms that do skyscrapers do things like stair cores, elevators etc. Have they figured out a way to bi-pass multi-level stairs? I should update the price, whats hard is they don't post it, but I have heard from people at least where I live that ArchiCad is cheaper, but this would have to be compared on a case by case basis because archicad's pricing changes. Is there anything Archline can do that other BIM softwares cant? I am always skeptical of new softwares. It seems like Archiline team sync doesnt work as well as revit or archicad. Also software support and forums are another thing to consider. Thanks for the comment.
Oh I almost forgot, I use the ArchiCAD grasshopper connection which works pretty well. however, there are ways to use grasshopper for Revit, and there is a lot of resources for dynamo.
@@NatesStudioDesk Archline is really new but powerful B.I.M software , I haven't seen such ease of use and great flexibility in any other BIM software .
Please take a look into it or u can download a trail version , u have no idea how fun and easy to work with Archline xp , the only missing tool is concrete reinforcement ( rebar ) and green architecture analysis ( Leed ) , model clash detection can be done using solibri .
You can move things around with dimensions in archicad
Nice, can you share how you do this. I have not been able to find a method. Thanks!
Вы можете показать пример?
Nice overview. I've been using Revit for the last 2,5 years. I've commented this in another video. But somehow I think ArchiCAD has better UI and faster workflow.
The firm i work in is more structure orientated. Is it true that Revit is better suited for structural designing and documentation? 1 argument I hear allot and also u mentioned is that Revit's view templates are more versatile which i imagine is a great plus for a BIM design app.
Any opinions on the new BricsCAD release?
He Ez Tutor, my take is that both are not great with the integration of structural. Major firms in UK recently condemned Revits lack of development and issues with integration (including Zaha). I personally think switching softwares is not worth it, you are looking at two years of getting up to speed, getting the workflow down, adding custom library items etc. I would just focus on how to work around the issues you are having, if you switched one thing might work better and then you will find another thing that doesnt. I will have to look into BricsCAD. ArchiCad does have a new Integrated Structural Analytical Model, which autogenerates structure from SAF, and IFC, more info: helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/127183/
@@NatesStudioDesk Interesting, wasn't expecting that answer hahaha...but makes allot of sense. Thanx for the insight!!
Archicad's core is best for large projects