Many Years from now Nier will be remembered as the man who destroyed the world. His outfit will be acquired by machine life forms in their trials in automata.
Even though Ending A is probably the most positive (at least in the original game when Ending E was only just part of a light novel), it still would've led to humanity inevitable extinction, followed by Aliens invading Earth for some reason, which results in a glorious mess where androids fight in a supposed endless cycle of war against machines. All brought to you by the brilliant and somewhat deranged mind of Yoko Taro.
I would hardly call it a happy end, and humanity is dead long before the Aliens arrived because of it. It isn't outright said, but you are given the info to underatand. The Gestalts can't remain sentient without the Shadowlord, and you kill him. This causes every Gestalt to relapse... which results in them becoming Shades. When this happens, the Black Scrawl takes hold of the corresponding Replicants, and they are all doomed to die a slow death.
@@yoinkiez exactly this to me is the saddest most unsatisfactory ending also NieR killed everyone just to get his sister which means NieR didn’t unlearn his selfish ways also the way yonah snubbed kaine does not sit well
The worst of it is that this was all part of the Flower’s ultimate plan to destroy humanity and become the new god of its replacement, the androids and machines.
The whole before reaching the Devola and Popola fight presents the Shadowlord as the ultimate opposition force that you must destroy, but Ending B drives it in deep that he's just figuratively and literally the same as you. Just a guy who wanted to save his sister and his people from a terrible disease.
He is literally nier and the original lol. I guess dev and popola really fuck up to not kill or at least subdue nier replicant body to be possessed by shadowlord
@@carval51 well to be fair the shadowlord only cared about gestalt Yonah, and kidnapped the replicant Yonah against devola and popolas wishes because he was tired of waiting. Plus Weiss also got amnesia from Nier hitting him so he forgot the whole plan.
@@amogus3596 well it's still good, like seriously I prob would be like that and it's not like he's against the whole world or something as he still help them to help yonah in a way. popola could just kill replicant nier and remake him again and save yonah first considering one sole goal of nier is to save his sister and it make him more cooperative. in a way it's their fuck up, plus in all honestly no matter strong our nier is they could also ask for the whole android army in the world to send reinforcement to subdue him since it's kinda humanity last hope bastion
If you watch Nier Orchestra 12020, Nier (Shadowlord) did not have much faith on the government after waiting for so long so he chose to take matters to his own hands and escape Yonah and bunch of Gestalts. He also admitted that he don't really cares about what happens to the world as long as he can save Yonah.
I can not fathom how tragic 4:18 does to you. Her brother risked everything to save her but the original Yohna remained compassionate even after what she's been through. Replicant Yohna would have felt the same way if she knew the entirety. Technically, Replicant Yohna has ultimately driven the Original Yohna to die.
I think she was cursed to die regardless. Her Replicant contracted the black scrawl so it was terminal and her Gestalt couldn't fully link with her body anyways. + The replicants gaining consciousness probably would have made the unification impossible, since they're hearing voices from their bodies separate to their own
@@lowhp_comic yonah would still live on as human and Replicant being sick, the human sciencetis couldnt not find a way to save yonah so their prioritey was to save whole humanity instead of only yonah so they lied to nier [shadowlord] telling him she will be healthy after 1000 years so they just seperated her soul and body,and she was not fully turned into a human because Shadowlord[Nier original] had to became one with Nier replicant, Or as a Back up Grimoire Noir and Weiss have to fuse and it would ultimatley turn every soul into their bodies again
@@lowhp_comicnot really? The Grimoires were made specifically just in case something like this happened. It was possible to force the reunion, and while there would probably be some other problems down the line, such as split personalities possibly being in conflict for the bodies, it would all be worth it cause the next generation of humans, no matter how small, could be born, finally free of most of the problems from the past.
@@FerunaLutelou that exactly what most people dont understand, nier i mean the replicant one is not the hero. Gestalt nier is and he failed and worst when a gestalt Die the replicant follow soon after. Watching nier as replicant killing near as gestalt is like watching à body trying to kill his own soul not understanding that it would also kill it self in that outcome. Its like a litteral suicide. A soul killed by his own body.
I love the music transition @10:25. How it goes from Shadowlord's boss theme having the orchestral cover the epic part- giving it Replicant Nier's Vibe to fight for what's his. Then to the choir- a balance between the showdown of Replicant and Gestalt Nier, To the music box- which represents Gestalt Nier's lost will to live after what Shade Yonah does.
I'll never forget facing the Shadowlord for the first time and i how freaked out at the music syncing with the start of the fight. It's pure brilliance.
@@emm.kash708it's been like 2 years since I played this game, so I'm a little rusty! 😂 In route A, the protagonist (replicant nier) kills the evil shadowlord, the monster who took his sister. When he takes him out, it's a cool moment and visually striking, but the silence and long take makes it a bit unnerving. With the context that route B provides and your understanding of the shadowlords true identity, the scene is suddenly not badass anymore, but very tragic. It lingers on the protagonist who just unknowingly killed his human self and doomed humanity to extinction. I don't recall the scene itself changing between routes, but the added context from route B changes the tone entirely. I'm not sure what you're referring to with the perspective switch, but like I said it's been years since I played the game.
Drakengard : you were just finishing your business with the big bad baddie that escapes to another world, somehow this action causes you to slowly doom the another world you chased big baddie to Nier : you're just trying to save your sister / daughter, but that action would cost you the entire humanity. But you don't give a shit anyway Automata : nothing you do actually matters
I think the great thing about Nier is that no one really did anything wrong, that's what makes it such a memorable story. Everyone had their own motives and you can sympathise and agree with all of them.
He sit his ass and expected everything to go according to Popolas/devolas = gestalt project lol the only time he did something was when he kidnapped Yonah
Somehow I blame nier and not, he in his egoist ways kills a lot of people, because he didnt try to understand others, even the shades or what they were, when popola and devola told him the truth, he didnt even care, he did what he wanted, he doomed mankind and the androids. He will will be remembered as the man who destroyed the world, but I understand, what would you do for someone you trully love, how far would you go to save them?, I had been in that place, to be know and remembered as the villian, anything to protect the ones close to you heart. Mankind can be so selfish and selfless
That's the cruelest part of this game. Making a choice no one should ever have to. Sacrifice everyone's life or sacrifice the one life that makes yours worth living for.
Me gusta mucho como NieR adaptó parte de la personalidad de Weiss al crecer, y Weiss de la de NieR, esto podemos verlo con la frase "I'm nothing like you" que ambos sueltan en sus correspondientes batallas contra Noire y las gemelas
I can not forgive the Shadowlord for the manipulation he inflicted upon his fellow Gestalts to bring his daughter back. Because of him, many lost their lives. The ones that hurted the most were Kalil, that Shade at the Memory tree and Roc, along with their corresponding companions. It's in this manner the two Niers are different. The Replicant really did learn to care for the world. Popola and Devola should have deployed Louise when they had the chance.
People who have only have played automata, I feel sorry for them lol this is way better, automata was good most of the stories are touching and all but replicant,.. lol hands down (automata didn’t have the same impact replicant did )
Maybe you are right, I played nier automata and I was very shocked by the thought of existentialism but nier replicant makes me think that if you want to protect what you love, even if it means sending the world to the trash, I would do it, which makes me think about: make a decision and accept the consequences whether they are good or bad. nier replicant maybe it will impact me more, maybe after all I have not played it but I plan to do it.
I found NieR replicant to be really shallow compared to automata. and not just storywise. replicant has width, but lacks depth. automata has deeper ideas and themes that give the game more to present to the player. this also gives the player more to reflect on and contemplate in return. NieR replicant was just sad. but NieR:Automata was sad AND depressing. replicant lacks entirely in the existential horror and existential 3-way mirror aspect that automata Excells at. on top of that, 2B and 9S have a significantly better fleshed out relationship than the characters relationships of replicant, especially in the romance aspect of 2B and 9S vs NieR and kaine. the relationship is the entire character focus of 2B and 9S, but for Nier and kaine, it's a minor, very minor detail that suddenly gets brought to the forefront without much being expanded upon prior to its sudden importance. replicant is a much smaller scale, down to earth game in its portrayal and experience. there's no grander message to read into, no out-of-game mental jump ropes and hurdles. it's just about the characters. automata is about the characters too, but it uses those characters to also nail into the players heart "bigger" questions and pains. you not only have to deal with the characters suffering and sadness, but you also have your own dreadful existential crisis boiling under your skin, and you can relate it to the characters struggle to justify their existence too. I called automata a 3-way mirror before. what I meant by that is that, the player, the main characters/androids, and the machines can all look into each other. the machines and androids obsess relentlessly with humanity, and are constantly fighting each other and realizing how similar each other are. humanity (the player) is constantly observing the state of world that these beings that obsess over us live in, and how they perceive us and each other. all 3 individual groups are observing all 3 groups at once existentially, and each group reflects on their own existence and the other 2 groups existence as a result. replicant doesn't have that. replicant just has the player observing the written story. and like I said, while replicant inflicts sadness, so does automata, but automata also has depression stacked on top of it.
@@MonsteRNieR oh well. Both are objectively phenomenal. Automata is what resonated with me the most. It's good that both games see appreciation from people.
I still feel like the Father version is more compelling to me. I love both the father and brother concepts, but there is something more emotional about a father fighting for his child then a broth fighting for his sister. It feels more gut retching to think of a father failing to protect his child. This story is dark either way.
i think i ultimately prefer brother nier. in part it's because, if they're only a few years apart in age, yonah really is _everything_ to nier, and in part it's because him and yonah being in the same "generation" makes their gestalt and replicant selves more of a clearly delineated past vs future philosophical question
Sucks how the Shadowlord was actually trying to save humanity and the death of the Shadowlord actually caused the Human Race to go extinct and that's why Nier Automata happened, our character is an idiot but it's not like they knew the whole story anyways. But it honestly makes the main character seem like a psychopathic killer since everyone you have been killing is the orginial humans lol.
I think Shadowlord's goal was to save his sister, not exactly humanity. And I don't think replicant Nier wan an idiot. He is similar to Joel from TLOU.
@@TheAlin1213 his goal was both his sister and humanity it was already explained what his goals were and more of it was explained in Nier Automata that Nier knew and volunteered for the project that's why he was so protected. All the Shades were connected to him and thats why with his death caused the death of humanity. I forgot what the project was called. It's been a while.
I don't know how you can call MC an idiot or psychopath since he didn't know shit about the whole thing about Replicants and Shadows. Devola and Popola explained him this very vague But it's not important. The main thing is that replicants have gained self-awareness. So why the hell they supposed to sucrifice themselfs for humans? I am not even talking that before this whole reveal about Replicants and Geshtalts, for Nier they were just Shadows - an enemy basically. I am not sure you can call him a psychopath. Yeah, this is sad that humans extinct because of chain of unlucky events, but it's not Replicants mistake for sure
Will you show all the endings? So much death at the end. Lol So as I understand, Shades are kind of spirits that can possess people to become "whole" but there seems to ve a clash of consciousness so even if theyre possessed two souls exist?
No. Shades are the souls of true humans split from their bodies during Project Gestalt. The Project aimed to allow humanity to survive the White Chlorination Syndrome by splitting the souls (the Gestalts, or Shades) from the body and crafting a new body for it that is resistant to the disease, called a Replicant, which is what you play as. However, as the Gestalt and its Replicant body are linked, and the people behind Project Gestalt didn't expect Replicants to gain souls of their own, whenever a Replicant develops its own soul, its Gestalt-turned-Shade goes berserk, and the Replicant will eventually contract the Black Scrawl. When the Shadowlord put Gestalt Yonah into Replicant Yonah's body, the soul of Replicant Yonah was stuck inside and begging to get out and see her brother.
@@gabrielb.2695 Nier's Gestalt (the Shadowlord) was also the Original Gestalt, the guy who kept the few stable remaining Gestalts from relapsing. Without him, all the Gestalts eventually relapsed, and humanity died to the black scrawl.
Devola/Popola mentioned wanting to wait for another round of bodies, but Shadowlord got impatient and wanted Yonah back right away. So it was possible to get them the body they wanted. Unfortunately, this replicant Nier got too strong for his own good. Doesn't help that Weiss is technically evil and had no problems ending humanity despite regaining his memories and knowing the truth. Wouldn't be surprised if he got hacked by the aliens at this point.
It was an architect of a mastermind who created this boss battle an obsolete and If it was it Nier It should have been me to feel the urge of my power underneath him than before, There’s something different about the final boss that It must be concluded back in 2010 over the year 2021.
@@kraosdadafusfus8034 Yonah has the same VA as she did before (Heather Hogan). Nier is the only one with new VA's, by virtue of this being the first time that Brother Nier has been in anything outside of Japan.
I honestly am not a fan of Kaine helping in the first phase. To me, this is easily the most personal fight in the game, making it a 2 v 1 isnt fair. I mean, the Shadowlord is literally fighting himself here. Its a heart wrenching fight of two who are also one with a specific goal, yet it conflicts so greatly with the other.
I feel like what's tragic about brother nier and sister yonah is both of them being thrown into a world of cruelty, when they're both only children. You see Nier having to grow up faster and take all that responsibility, when he himself is lost in all of that, and that includes both the replicant and gestalt Niers. One of the side stories that precedes the game depicts how he struggled to find money for an effective medicine to help Yonah, and he had to sell his body to an older man who was also violent...and that's just one example. He became completely devoted to his sister, but had to pay heavy prices. I recommand the drama Cds as well, they depict a part of gestalt Nier/Shadowlord''s past, and the life in general of humans after ending E of Drakengard, but before project gestalt was fully initiated. It wasn't pretty.
@@johnhogan8327 As an older sibling, I never thought siblings owed each other nothing, so it's an interesting point of view. Always thought that if something happened to our family (or even in general), I'd take care of my brother, but I guess it's far from universal.
It's like they left it in there intentionally, which i find it a nice touch and brings back nostalgia how slow, chunky and thrashy everytime Nier fights.
Yeah. They are gestalts, the embodiment of extracted human soul outside of their body to save their life from incurable epidemic that'll erase humanity. They are the real human, they waited for the epidemic to vanish. The replicants are just body that lost it's host, but somehow, after so much time passed, they became sentient
When Weiss says that he doesn’t mind being called “Weiss”, after the entire game of correcting people for not using his full name. Nier says “I knew you’d come around” (to being called Weiss).
@@bytheninedivinesassaultass7316 Could you please tell me the specific name of the track it's from? I clicked on a bunch different versions and couldn't find it.
@@bigmiki2620 the track is called ashes of dreams. Theres multiple versions with lyrics in different languages, but the song is the same. I'm not sure if there is one available without the vocals if that's what you mean.
Cause there are 2 different versions of the game in Japan the playstation got brother nier and the xbox got dad nier while every other part of the world got just dad nier
Wait, wha? In original game the final "Aaaaaargh" was said by original Nier (Shadowlord) , not by Weiss. So this moment was even more heartbreaking. Why they remade this context for book? Fuck this!
Not sure about the new voice acting. The OG hit hard and was very satisfying. The new stuff feels too, "smoothed over." Too clean. Y'know what I mean? "Dyown't speak in sucha mannah FOOL... Ai am NATHING like yew..." becomes "Don't speak in such a manner fool. I am nothing like you." It's not bad, just less amusing than the OG. 5:00 "Y'know?" really weakens this moment. Take out the "y'know" and have her speak firmly as she did before. This is a big moment for her... y'know...? lol. 7:56 This is good though, I like how Weiss's weakening voice sounds like static... Almost like he's a sort of machine, an engineered tool. Fits nicely with the lore~. 8:35 Man... I don't like being a nag but, does anyone see what I mean? The acting is a lot flatter and monotone than the original's. All said at mostly similar volume, pitch, and inflection. Sorry, it's good to see this game again. But, some of the changes for the acting I'm not hot on. 10:45 Wait... Y'hear that? I think that's the OG Shadowlord yell~. Glad they left that in right at the end~.
@@Lonewulf321 Little things make up a whole experience. When lots of little things get changed, people notice. The game's not bad, I still like it, but some of the changes are not so hot.
You do realize this was the first NieR right? It wasn’t perfect gameplay-wise, but the story and characters were great. Plus, without Replicant, Automata would have never existed. Now, this is an upgraded version, not a full remake, so, if you just played Automata for the gameplay, maybe Taro’s games aren’t for you after all.
@@wallacesousuke1433 look. The point is, this is a predecessor. Sure it seems a lot less than its successor, but thats because its an older game. You cant compare an old man to his son. XD So saying this is worse than Automata is kind insensitive. Many people still like it despite its oldness which proves it was and is a good game. You couldve easily just said, "I like Nier Automata more. This isnt really my thing."
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Dad: Are you winning son?
Son: No one's winning dad....
Yes, but at what cost?
Only Weiss getting those sloppy kisses from the Shadowlord lol
similar comment to some guy who posted this comment in the ost vid
Legit this was my dad watching me play this game. It's probably the only game he's had interest in watching me play and it's pretty fucking cool 😎
Are you wining dad?
Turns out I was the Nier: Replicant all along
N-no...IMPOSSIBLE!
Putting the "I can't" in Nier: Replicant
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Nier was the replicants we made along the way
God dammit
I feel like if Weiss was a cookbook he would be like Gordon Ramsey
Whenever I hear his voice I remember he shares a voice actor with Gaara and now I imagine him as a really aggressive chef
The moment I heard Weiss, I instantly thought of a book version of Leviathan from Skullgirls. _(Launch party 2011-ongoing)_
Where's the lamb sauce, hussy? Lol
Remember to use his full name, and he hates cookbooks lol
Weiss: What are you?!
Kainé: ...a hussy Sandwich
Many Years from now Nier will be remembered as the man who destroyed the world. His outfit will be acquired by machine life forms in their trials in automata.
Yes, The Destroyer outfit for A2
And then brought back in time by an Android to give to an Intoner.
@@TheMilhouseExperience huh wdm by that? i dont think one of the intoners from drakenguard 3 is wearing it
Why did Nier want to kill the shadowlord
@@bingchilling994 to save Yonah, but the shadow lord (who is the real nier) wanted to save his Yonah which is inside replicant Yonah.
Even though Ending A is probably the most positive (at least in the original game when Ending E was only just part of a light novel), it still would've led to humanity inevitable extinction, followed by Aliens invading Earth for some reason, which results in a glorious mess where androids fight in a supposed endless cycle of war against machines. All brought to you by the brilliant and somewhat deranged mind of Yoko Taro.
I would hardly call it a happy end, and humanity is dead long before the Aliens arrived because of it. It isn't outright said, but you are given the info to underatand. The Gestalts can't remain sentient without the Shadowlord, and you kill him. This causes every Gestalt to relapse... which results in them becoming Shades. When this happens, the Black Scrawl takes hold of the corresponding Replicants, and they are all doomed to die a slow death.
@@yoinkiez exactly this to me is the saddest most unsatisfactory ending also NieR killed everyone just to get his sister which means NieR didn’t unlearn his selfish ways also the way yonah snubbed kaine does not sit well
The worst of it is that this was all part of the Flower’s ultimate plan to destroy humanity and become the new god of its replacement, the androids and machines.
What do you mean it’s not relevant?
With all due respect, Ending A is most certainly not the most positive, that would go to Ending E.
The whole before reaching the Devola and Popola fight presents the Shadowlord as the ultimate opposition force that you must destroy, but Ending B drives it in deep that he's just figuratively and literally the same as you. Just a guy who wanted to save his sister and his people from a terrible disease.
He is literally nier and the original lol. I guess dev and popola really fuck up to not kill or at least subdue nier replicant body to be possessed by shadowlord
@@carval51 well to be fair the shadowlord only cared about gestalt Yonah, and kidnapped the replicant Yonah against devola and popolas wishes because he was tired of waiting. Plus Weiss also got amnesia from Nier hitting him so he forgot the whole plan.
@@amogus3596 well it's still good, like seriously I prob would be like that and it's not like he's against the whole world or something as he still help them to help yonah in a way.
popola could just kill replicant nier and remake him again and save yonah first considering one sole goal of nier is to save his sister and it make him more cooperative. in a way it's their fuck up, plus in all honestly no matter strong our nier is they could also ask for the whole android army in the world to send reinforcement to subdue him since it's kinda humanity last hope bastion
If you watch Nier Orchestra 12020, Nier (Shadowlord) did not have much faith on the government after waiting for so long so he chose to take matters to his own hands and escape Yonah and bunch of Gestalts. He also admitted that he don't really cares about what happens to the world as long as he can save Yonah.
@@mrpeace4749 lol he cares about the world since he save other Gestalt too, he is the true hero in this story.
The Shadowlords entrance along with the music is incredible.
Years passed, and this still hits me hard
One day in the future people will look back and appreciate what Yoko taro did here..
I can not fathom how tragic 4:18 does to you. Her brother risked everything to save her but the original Yohna remained compassionate even after what she's been through. Replicant Yohna would have felt the same way if she knew the entirety. Technically, Replicant Yohna has ultimately driven the Original Yohna to die.
I think she was cursed to die regardless. Her Replicant contracted the black scrawl so it was terminal and her Gestalt couldn't fully link with her body anyways. + The replicants gaining consciousness probably would have made the unification impossible, since they're hearing voices from their bodies separate to their own
@@lowhp_comic yonah would still live on as human and Replicant being sick, the human sciencetis couldnt not find a way to save yonah so their prioritey was to save whole humanity instead of only yonah so they lied to nier [shadowlord] telling him she will be healthy after 1000 years so they just seperated her soul and body,and she was not fully turned into a human because Shadowlord[Nier original] had to became one with Nier replicant, Or as a Back up Grimoire Noir and Weiss have to fuse and it would ultimatley turn every soul into their bodies again
@@lowhp_comicnot really? The Grimoires were made specifically just in case something like this happened. It was possible to force the reunion, and while there would probably be some other problems down the line, such as split personalities possibly being in conflict for the bodies, it would all be worth it cause the next generation of humans, no matter how small, could be born, finally free of most of the problems from the past.
@@FerunaLutelou that exactly what most people dont understand, nier i mean the replicant one is not the hero. Gestalt nier is and he failed and worst when a gestalt Die the replicant follow soon after. Watching nier as replicant killing near as gestalt is like watching à body trying to kill his own soul not understanding that it would also kill it self in that outcome. Its like a litteral suicide.
A soul killed by his own body.
I love the music transition @10:25.
How it goes from Shadowlord's boss theme having the orchestral cover the epic part- giving it Replicant Nier's Vibe to fight for what's his.
Then to the choir- a balance between the showdown of Replicant and Gestalt Nier,
To the music box- which represents Gestalt Nier's lost will to live after what Shade Yonah does.
0:30 what a cool scene with the pacing of the music, tops to Keiichi Okabe
I'll never forget facing the Shadowlord for the first time and i how freaked out at the music syncing with the start of the fight.
It's pure brilliance.
And then finding out you are technically killing yourself :(
"You expect me to sympathise with you?"
"You asshole, I AM YOU"
11:23-11:33 is the best shot in the game. Super badass but also somehow not right during route a, and then incredibly tragic during route b.
I just compared the two and im a little lost. what does the perspective switch mean?
@@emm.kash708it's been like 2 years since I played this game, so I'm a little rusty! 😂
In route A, the protagonist (replicant nier) kills the evil shadowlord, the monster who took his sister. When he takes him out, it's a cool moment and visually striking, but the silence and long take makes it a bit unnerving.
With the context that route B provides and your understanding of the shadowlords true identity, the scene is suddenly not badass anymore, but very tragic. It lingers on the protagonist who just unknowingly killed his human self and doomed humanity to extinction.
I don't recall the scene itself changing between routes, but the added context from route B changes the tone entirely.
I'm not sure what you're referring to with the perspective switch, but like I said it's been years since I played the game.
Drakengard : you were just finishing your business with the big bad baddie that escapes to another world, somehow this action causes you to slowly doom the another world you chased big baddie to
Nier : you're just trying to save your sister / daughter, but that action would cost you the entire humanity. But you don't give a shit anyway
Automata : nothing you do actually matters
7:10 God, the voice actor did such a great job
FACTS!!! Those lines were amazing!
Ray Chase goes hard....that line in particular gave me goosebumps.
youre not fucking lying, that is my favorite quote in the game, gives me fucking CHILLS, especially after learning/playing the whole game
it's the most important line in the game
Indeed, but I'm partial to 10:33 myself. It's a quick 2 lines, but very beautiful (to me anyway). They "speak" to me.
The more i see this game, the more happy i am that its becoming popular.
But for each person experiencing the game, an additional bit of depression is added to the world.
@@bok4822Ah but you see, that is Yoko Taro’s ultimate goal
Whenever Yonah walked slowly towards the actual Nier and the shadowlords theme started playing I felt so many feelings of sadness😢
yeah, the music is pure gold in this bossfight, especially in the cutscene with Yonah.
Yeah
Everything Nier replicant was trying to do, it was the same thing for the shadowlord...
Remember, there is no glory to mankind...
Can't have glory if you dont have mankind.
mankind was saved :)
No, mankind was eradicated. :)
@@yoinkiez bro i felt so heartbroken when i found that out in automata shit was so heartbreaking
Manwhat? :)
How many final boss fights can take place in a... powerpoint presentation room? Whatever it even is.
it looks like an office building so "powerpoint presentation room" fits lmao
Auditorium but no chair-thingies.
Idk why but i love how the fighting arena looks like a generic government building auditorium
@@wawan8759 it's also just so fitting seeing some generic warehouse as the final boss arena of a post-human-apocalyptic castle
1:29 I keep laughing when he says SHADOWLORD
movie trailer
Kamoshida's VA do be like that comically funny af
And thus Nier became the man who brought about the extinction of mankind...
Репликантом, а не человеком
@@l4756lRught but you get what I mean
Shadowlord did nothing wrong change my mind.
I think the great thing about Nier is that no one really did anything wrong, that's what makes it such a memorable story. Everyone had their own motives and you can sympathise and agree with all of them.
He sit his ass and expected everything to go according to Popolas/devolas = gestalt project lol the only time he did something was when he kidnapped Yonah
So yeah he was remarkably useless even my poor twins sacrificed themselves for him..
@@MonsteRNieR He prevent the shade from collapsing
@@D23-88 more like everyone did things wrong
Imo the shadow lord looks so much more badass in this game
This game is a good remainder for us to not forget what truly make us human. Compassion and love to others.
Who else lost their shit when the shadow lord had the same melee move set as the original NieR on the ps3?
I laughed at his walkign animation lol
The final boss is literally YOU, but better in every way. Allies or not, how the hell are you actually supposed to beat him??
Well, quite easily, it seems
He's actually worse than you.
Shadowlord's moveset is legit the same as yours from the original PS3 version.
Replicant nier cant. The shadowlord gave up the will to live because of gestalt yonahs death and let replicant nier kill him
Nier: "you think I'm going to sympathize with you?"
Me: "it's okay don't listen to that asshole replicant shadowlord. I sympathize with you 😔."
Lol shadowlord is the og nier
Let be real there, the same goes from Shadowlord. It's not like he sympathized with his Replicant counterpart or see the Replicants as people anyway.
the second half of this fight is BS how am I supposed to fight with tears in my eyes
Multitask
Not gonna be easy but hey whatcha gonna do?
So what happens at the 8:20 cutscene? Seems really sudden and then all of a sudden the shadowlord’s at the end of the hall
Probably Weiss sacrificed himself to hold down the shadowlord
This song alone makes playing this mission 4 times over again worth it
GIVE ME BIG SLOPPY KISS, SHADOWLORD!!
prepare to, prepare to er.. oh dear, nope…
My heart...
Here take this 💖
I get the feeling Yoko Taro wants us all dead from his incredibly sad stories
"Where is the sauce hussy!?"
my soul...
Humans shells has gotten their own souls .
Somehow I blame nier and not, he in his egoist ways kills a lot of people, because he didnt try to understand others, even the shades or what they were, when popola and devola told him the truth, he didnt even care, he did what he wanted, he doomed mankind and the androids. He will will be remembered as the man who destroyed the world, but I understand, what would you do for someone you trully love, how far would you go to save them?, I had been in that place, to be know and remembered as the villian, anything to protect the ones close to you heart.
Mankind can be so selfish and selfless
And Popola and Devola ( who didn’t even want to fight him) were blamed and bullied for it..
@@MonsteRNieR tbh both popolla and devola deal with this mess poorly.
Honestly, there are no heroes and villains in Nier, just people fighting for what they believe in. One person’s hero is another person’s villain.
That's the cruelest part of this game. Making a choice no one should ever have to. Sacrifice everyone's life or sacrifice the one life that makes yours worth living for.
Nier couldn't understand the shades, but kaine could through the being in her (forget it's name)
How D.C. Douglas does the Shadowlord line in this kills me every time 🤣
Okay yeah, that's cool and all... When we gettin' a fully remade Drakengard? Caim demands bloodshed.
Did anyone else abuse the hell out of dark gluttony in the game?
Yeah it felt like the ultimate kamehameha when fully charged and one shotted everything.
Lol? Run out of mp ASAP yep it was pretty awesome..
I started with Automata and it is basically like the gatling pod so that’s what drawn me to it
@@cynicallrage shit spell magic wall is the way to go if you play replicant
Nah I abused the living shit out of the barrier ability lmao it was pure cheese 😂
"I have something to defend I have a reason to live" you don't sound to sure of yourself there nier
Me gusta mucho como NieR adaptó parte de la personalidad de Weiss al crecer, y Weiss de la de NieR, esto podemos verlo con la frase "I'm nothing like you" que ambos sueltan en sus correspondientes batallas contra Noire y las gemelas
I can not forgive the Shadowlord for the manipulation he inflicted upon his fellow Gestalts to bring his daughter back. Because of him, many lost their lives. The ones that hurted the most were Kalil, that Shade at the Memory tree and Roc, along with their corresponding companions.
It's in this manner the two Niers are different. The Replicant really did learn to care for the world.
Popola and Devola should have deployed Louise when they had the chance.
Glory for mankind, who played god out of desperation and died a silent death.
5:21 yonah looking at nier as the music builds up gave me chills the first time i played this.
People who have only have played automata, I feel sorry for them lol this is way better, automata was good most of the stories are touching and all but replicant,.. lol hands down (automata didn’t have the same impact replicant did )
Maybe you are right, I played nier automata and I was very shocked by the thought of existentialism but nier replicant makes me think that if you want to protect what you love, even if it means sending the world to the trash, I would do it, which makes me think about: make a decision and accept the consequences whether they are good or bad. nier replicant maybe it will impact me more, maybe after all I have not played it but I plan to do it.
@@crisxx3521 do it dude, you won’t regret. Wait to hear Emil’s, kaine popola and devola, Louise stories and many others
I found NieR replicant to be really shallow compared to automata. and not just storywise.
replicant has width, but lacks depth.
automata has deeper ideas and themes that give the game more to present to the player. this also gives the player more to reflect on and contemplate in return.
NieR replicant was just sad.
but NieR:Automata was sad AND depressing.
replicant lacks entirely in the existential horror and existential 3-way mirror aspect that automata Excells at.
on top of that, 2B and 9S have a significantly better fleshed out relationship than the characters relationships of replicant, especially in the romance aspect of 2B and 9S vs NieR and kaine.
the relationship is the entire character focus of 2B and 9S, but for Nier and kaine, it's a minor, very minor detail that suddenly gets brought to the forefront without much being expanded upon prior to its sudden importance.
replicant is a much smaller scale, down to earth game in its portrayal and experience. there's no grander message to read into, no out-of-game mental jump ropes and hurdles. it's just about the characters.
automata is about the characters too, but it uses those characters to also nail into the players heart "bigger" questions and pains. you not only have to deal with the characters suffering and sadness, but you also have your own dreadful existential crisis boiling under your skin, and you can relate it to the characters struggle to justify their existence too.
I called automata a 3-way mirror before.
what I meant by that is that, the player, the main characters/androids, and the machines can all look into each other.
the machines and androids obsess relentlessly with humanity, and are constantly fighting each other and realizing how similar each other are.
humanity (the player) is constantly observing the state of world that these beings that obsess over us live in, and how they perceive us and each other.
all 3 individual groups are observing all 3 groups at once existentially, and each group reflects on their own existence and the other 2 groups existence as a result.
replicant doesn't have that. replicant just has the player observing the written story. and like I said, while replicant inflicts sadness, so does automata, but automata also has depression stacked on top of it.
@@trevorveillette8415 Your arguments are completely valid, I just think replicant is the best game out there period…
@@MonsteRNieR oh well. Both are objectively phenomenal. Automata is what resonated with me the most. It's good that both games see appreciation from people.
I still feel like the Father version is more compelling to me. I love both the father and brother concepts, but there is something more emotional about a father fighting for his child then a broth fighting for his sister. It feels more gut retching to think of a father failing to protect his child. This story is dark either way.
Same, i always found the father/daughter dynamic alot more heartbreaking.
i think i ultimately prefer brother nier. in part it's because, if they're only a few years apart in age, yonah really is _everything_ to nier, and in part it's because him and yonah being in the same "generation" makes their gestalt and replicant selves more of a clearly delineated past vs future philosophical question
Sucks how the Shadowlord was actually trying to save humanity and the death of the Shadowlord actually caused the Human Race to go extinct and that's why Nier Automata happened, our character is an idiot but it's not like they knew the whole story anyways. But it honestly makes the main character seem like a psychopathic killer since everyone you have been killing is the orginial humans lol.
I think Shadowlord's goal was to save his sister, not exactly humanity. And I don't think replicant Nier wan an idiot. He is similar to Joel from TLOU.
@@TheAlin1213 his goal was both his sister and humanity it was already explained what his goals were and more of it was explained in Nier Automata that Nier knew and volunteered for the project that's why he was so protected. All the Shades were connected to him and thats why with his death caused the death of humanity. I forgot what the project was called. It's been a while.
I don't know how you can call MC an idiot or psychopath since he didn't know shit about the whole thing about Replicants and Shadows. Devola and Popola explained him this very vague
But it's not important. The main thing is that replicants have gained self-awareness. So why the hell they supposed to sucrifice themselfs for humans? I am not even talking that before this whole reveal about Replicants and Geshtalts, for Nier they were just Shadows - an enemy basically. I am not sure you can call him a psychopath.
Yeah, this is sad that humans extinct because of chain of unlucky events, but it's not Replicants mistake for sure
@@TheAlin1213 Tbh I found Joel to be a psychopathic idiot too.
Lol yes i definitely agree
Her death and him screaming no gets me every time idk why
This boss just hits so much harder than anything in Automata.
The last mankind hope and the boy who condemned it.
I knew I recognised that voice actor good one noctis
Will you show all the endings? So much death at the end. Lol
So as I understand, Shades are kind of spirits that can possess people to become "whole" but there seems to ve a clash of consciousness so even if theyre possessed two souls exist?
No. Shades are the souls of true humans split from their bodies during Project Gestalt. The Project aimed to allow humanity to survive the White Chlorination Syndrome by splitting the souls (the Gestalts, or Shades) from the body and crafting a new body for it that is resistant to the disease, called a Replicant, which is what you play as. However, as the Gestalt and its Replicant body are linked, and the people behind Project Gestalt didn't expect Replicants to gain souls of their own, whenever a Replicant develops its own soul, its Gestalt-turned-Shade goes berserk, and the Replicant will eventually contract the Black Scrawl. When the Shadowlord put Gestalt Yonah into Replicant Yonah's body, the soul of Replicant Yonah was stuck inside and begging to get out and see her brother.
@@gabrielb.2695 Nier's Gestalt (the Shadowlord) was also the Original Gestalt, the guy who kept the few stable remaining Gestalts from relapsing. Without him, all the Gestalts eventually relapsed, and humanity died to the black scrawl.
@@UltimaPhoenix-dx3kt And I wish all that juicy lore was in the game and not in a Japanese art book.
Devola/Popola mentioned wanting to wait for another round of bodies, but Shadowlord got impatient and wanted Yonah back right away. So it was possible to get them the body they wanted. Unfortunately, this replicant Nier got too strong for his own good. Doesn't help that Weiss is technically evil and had no problems ending humanity despite regaining his memories and knowing the truth. Wouldn't be surprised if he got hacked by the aliens at this point.
@@gabrielb.2695 it IS
Why is there no Boar shade video?
Well, you don't really fight Goose. She's unkillable, so you must run away.
goose isn't a boss fight, she's a set piece.
Cause goose is inmortal lol
15:51 i dont think so if shes refering to her gestalt
It was an architect of a mastermind who created this boss battle an obsolete and If it was it Nier It should have been me to feel the urge of my power underneath him than before, There’s something different about the final boss that It must be concluded back in 2010 over the year 2021.
Does anyone know which characters had original Voice Actors?
All of them, other than Nier and seemingly Yonah.
@@kraosdadafusfus8034 Yonah has the same VA as she did before (Heather Hogan).
Nier is the only one with new VA's, by virtue of this being the first time that Brother Nier has been in anything outside of Japan.
@@MrSentinel07 Yoko Taro said that if Replicant did well enough, they'd add a Gestalt mode and bring back Papa Nier, and most likely Jamieson Price.
@@kraosdadafusfus8034 Father Nier is playable in the mother's diary dungeon, and he's still voiced by Jaimeson Price there.
@@kraosdadafusfus8034 father neiR is already playable on the recycled vessel
I honestly am not a fan of Kaine helping in the first phase. To me, this is easily the most personal fight in the game, making it a 2 v 1 isnt fair. I mean, the Shadowlord is literally fighting himself here. Its a heart wrenching fight of two who are also one with a specific goal, yet it conflicts so greatly with the other.
This game is so hard and actual bs how tf am I supposed to beat this fight with tears everywhere
my tears
Dad and daughter Neir still makes me feel much sadder than brother and sister neir
I feel like what's tragic about brother nier and sister yonah is both of them being thrown into a world of cruelty, when they're both only children.
You see Nier having to grow up faster and take all that responsibility, when he himself is lost in all of that, and that includes both the replicant and gestalt Niers. One of the side stories that precedes the game depicts how he struggled to find money for an effective medicine to help Yonah, and he had to sell his body to an older man who was also violent...and that's just one example. He became completely devoted to his sister, but had to pay heavy prices.
I recommand the drama Cds as well, they depict a part of gestalt Nier/Shadowlord''s past, and the life in general of humans after ending E of Drakengard, but before project gestalt was fully initiated. It wasn't pretty.
Brother nier fits the story more
The duty a father has to his daughter is readily apparent. Siblings owe each other nothing. Both make for powerful stories
@@johnhogan8327 As an older sibling, I never thought siblings owed each other nothing, so it's an interesting point of view. Always thought that if something happened to our family (or even in general), I'd take care of my brother, but I guess it's far from universal.
@@anomitas in some ways, but in other ways father NieR fits better
Does anyone know what the Shadow Lord is saying?
revealed in ending B
Play ending b and you can understand
playing route B and you will feels like villain
Who's here after the OST video got deleted? :/
Me. A shame that all the osts got deleted, rip
I've enemies NO , they're all friendly. 4:45
Shadowlord moves just exactly in ps3 🙃
Lol yeah, it's kinda funny that his running animation looks so outdated compared to the player.
It's like they left it in there intentionally, which i find it a nice touch and brings back nostalgia how slow, chunky and thrashy everytime Nier fights.
@@daene277 I was actually glad they kept his fighting the same, extra nostalgia kick
Plot twis: shadowlord is chacracter we played in the beginning of the game. And all shades are real human
Yeah. They are gestalts, the embodiment of extracted human soul outside of their body to save their life from incurable epidemic that'll erase humanity. They are the real human, they waited for the epidemic to vanish.
The replicants are just body that lost it's host, but somehow, after so much time passed, they became sentient
@@broom_404 cant really blame the replicants they wanted to live also
@@vincenthammons6705 yeah, but they doesn't have future in the first place. Replicants can't reproduce
@@broom_404 neither can the humans at this point even if they get the replicants bodies does not even change that
@@vincenthammons6705 the ole point is that both sides are not wrong
You've unlocked an achievement:
"Book burner"
What wut?
There is something I don't understand yet
What means Nier when he told Weiss "I knew you will come around"?
When Weiss says that he doesn’t mind being called “Weiss”, after the entire game of correcting people for not using his full name. Nier says “I knew you’d come around” (to being called Weiss).
Yeah that one is kinda weirdly translated ngl…
What's the OST in the beginning?
Its one of the edits from ashes of dreams. There are at least 5 of them in the OST.
@@bytheninedivinesassaultass7316 Could you please tell me the specific name of the track it's from?
I clicked on a bunch different versions and couldn't find it.
@@bigmiki2620 the track is called ashes of dreams. Theres multiple versions with lyrics in different languages, but the song is the same. I'm not sure if there is one available without the vocals if that's what you mean.
Ashes of dreams bro it’s in Spotify
Hey, late response, but it’s “Yonah piano ver” it’s the same motif in Ashes of Dreams
Was not Yonah supposed be Nier's daughter?; why is it thay they keep calling her 'sister'?
Cause there are 2 different versions of the game in Japan the playstation got brother nier and the xbox got dad nier while every other part of the world got just dad nier
@@galacticcorgi1258 Ohhhh, ok thats something I had not idea about. I hope they make a remake of the Drakengard series as well!!.
@@kevinurielfonseca yeah it would be fun
Typing in the name of your character fucking made me cry so hard.....if I used my real name I probably would have cried even more.
Did I just hear Illidan Stormrage???
I just wanted to save my family
But he did too
Good job guys, you have doomed humanity.
Humanity has fallen
Billions must cry
So like any1 think yonah look like younger 2b
Hmm maybe but zero is kainé and A2 moms
10:30 😢
10:45 😢😢😢
Ending A lol so nice
Wait, wha? In original game the final "Aaaaaargh" was said by original Nier (Shadowlord) , not by Weiss. So this moment was even more heartbreaking. Why they remade this context for book? Fuck this!
You referring to when Weiss sacrifices himself to stop shadowlord? If so then no it was Weiss in og too
I think you are remembering it incorrectly
@@Oku944 mb it was a mistake in our pirate translation :) Thk
Big ass doors
Is this sped up?
Future self meet present self that very scared I wish I could save her my sister precious in different timeline
this gonna bad for the economy
The combat in this game seems so boring and it's constantly broken up by cutscenes mid-fight. The music is awesome, but that's it.
Not sure about the new voice acting. The OG hit hard and was very satisfying. The new stuff feels too, "smoothed over." Too clean. Y'know what I mean?
"Dyown't speak in sucha mannah FOOL... Ai am NATHING like yew..."
becomes "Don't speak in such a manner fool. I am nothing like you." It's not bad, just less amusing than the OG.
5:00 "Y'know?" really weakens this moment. Take out the "y'know" and have her speak firmly as she did before. This is a big moment for her... y'know...? lol.
7:56 This is good though, I like how Weiss's weakening voice sounds like static... Almost like he's a sort of machine, an engineered tool. Fits nicely with the lore~.
8:35 Man... I don't like being a nag but, does anyone see what I mean? The acting is a lot flatter and monotone than the original's. All said at mostly similar volume, pitch, and inflection.
Sorry, it's good to see this game again. But, some of the changes for the acting I'm not hot on.
10:45 Wait... Y'hear that? I think that's the OG Shadowlord yell~. Glad they left that in right at the end~.
I think you’re being a little nitpicky lol
@@Lonewulf321 Little things make up a whole experience.
When lots of little things get changed, people notice.
The game's not bad, I still like it, but some of the changes are not so hot.
@@basimaziz so these little things didn’t change your overall opinion? Lol
@@Lonewulf321 its because youre nitpicky like this that they changed a lot of stuff.
@@lunascomments3024 I don’t think you understood what I said
7:10
he saved his sister-wife sniff sniff................
Whoa bruh, yes he's got the white hair but I'm fairly certain he's not a Targaryen.
Not u not me ×5
Yonah looks like A2
Nope just nope…
A2 is meant to be the android version of Kainé
Lmao all gameplay of this game they don’t parry or guard anything
First
2010 Nier is so much better but you can't get it on pc :(
Emulate it. It runs pretty smooth.
Lame game, nowhere near as great as Nier Automata
This game walked so Nier Automata could run.
@@tangytablets5150 dont care
You do realize this was the first NieR right? It wasn’t perfect gameplay-wise, but the story and characters were great. Plus, without Replicant, Automata would have never existed.
Now, this is an upgraded version, not a full remake, so, if you just played Automata for the gameplay, maybe Taro’s games aren’t for you after all.
Nioh is shit too
@@wallacesousuke1433 look. The point is, this is a predecessor. Sure it seems a lot less than its successor, but thats because its an older game. You cant compare an old man to his son. XD
So saying this is worse than Automata is kind insensitive. Many people still like it despite its oldness which proves it was and is a good game. You couldve easily just said, "I like Nier Automata more. This isnt really my thing."