Honestly, I really do despise these tanks for continuing the trend of heavy, fast, high alpha, hull down tanks. When a tank has almost NO weak points head on, it just drains the fun from the game, especially as HE are useless.
5 or 6 years ago, a T10 Tank with 260 turret armor and 220 frontal hull armor was a good tank, now a T7 tank have that. Power creep goes up and funn goes down.
What makes it worse is when supposedly "OP" tech tree tanks get nerfed for balance, yet WG is perfectly ok putting mosters like this thing into the game, for example they aren't dead tanks but any derpy tanks that used HE like the KV2, OI, or T49 aren't very good after the HE nerf or how they nerfed the bulldog or the ISU-152 (then re-added the pre-nerfed tank as a premium) and there are surely many more I just don't recall.
@@vgamesx1 I know you talked about the ISU-152 that was re-added as a premium, but will the bulldog ever get a premium variant with that godlike autoloader it used to have? :(
Thank you for making a video of my game! My opinioin of these tanks are kind of a mixed bag. I like the tanks but I miss the high octane action at the same time.
@@blakkwaltz dont worry, the t29 is still good. Even better in some ways. Just gotta load the 240 alpha gun and go full gold :P That gun actually got its dpm and accuracy(?) buffed, so it's in a better place than the 320 gun I the previous patch.
yesterday i had a fight in kv2 against the tier 7 smv. dude was on 600hp and coming me at frontally. then he came to face hug me. appearantly kv2 is tall enough to see his roof plate of turret and so i took his 600hp with overmatching that roof plate.
While I agree with the fact that there tanks could be end up being the most boring tanks to play inside the game, I still wait for the information, when will the long planned rework for this map comes out live. I remember around 1 year ago there was 3 potiential leaks, but it never came.
I think the Vipera doesn't have an outrageous win ratio because it completely falls down against tier 9 and 10s firing HEAT at it. The turret top weakspot can be quite frustrating aswell and finally the gun absolutely sucks for any engagement exceeding the distance of 300 meters.
I don't think you know the playerbase if you think that super easy to play powerful vehicles will be unpopular with statistically good players. Wins matter more than fun for stat padders
@10:46, I feel bluffing here is important. Your opponents would unlikely know you had 2 rounds in the mag and needed to reload earlier than expected. Players under pressure are not going to think clearly so the bluff is valid. That you have more to lose to show you are reloading. Also you are exposing only your best armour in this situation. They empty their mag and now you can cross safely with your max burst damage ready. Even if they pen you from that cover, its better than taking lower plate shots. That is in part to how mirror fights work with this tank, I would imagine the victor will be the player who has the most side or lower plate shots (if life is equalised). (frontally, you have a 13% chance upper plate and a chance at skimming the 0% sized cupola to score any no HE damage or until you catch the side of the tank (either the frontal side transition plates (upper hull) that is angled 45° or the full side, assuming you have gold and 212 pen). Otherwise scoring damage is hard to impossible)
@@artm1973 sorry but no, lessening 3 arty games, fixing some maps, ebr gets matchmaking is way more important than adding another average hull down tank which changes completely nothing, like we already dont have a bunch of those tanks
@@durachoks I think the word average or mediocre is what shows how shortsighted you are. You might as well call 279(e) terrible and 60TP worst piece of garbage ever. Not everyone play premium crap or can level up instantly a new line of tank so powercreeping is a thing.
I can see now that there is no balance in the tanks now. As you can see the TD of American tanks is a very less upgrade. Imagine other countries TD has automatic reloading but in the US has long reloading. I hope that their will be a new update that the TD of US will be upgrade the reloading time and armor
I uninstalled a week ago.... it is shockingly ... liberating. I don't have premium, so I don't feel forced to log on, I am un-utter ably tired of the consistent making of new tech trees with zero modules that carry over to the next tier, I am tired of 80% crews on stock tanks (as teammates and for myself), I am *tired* of feeling that I *need* to pay to play, let alone pay2win. I can just watch replays and say "yep, that looked awful" and not have it have any effect on my life, as I am not going to have to log in to "play" a game that has an awful power creep/research drain system that makes me more frustrated than happy when I spend time "playing" it.
Nice a new Quickybaby video. And about the new Italian tds... And more; its a tier 7 game. Great job. Thanks Quickybaby And an answer to your question at the end of the video. I like my Italian tier 5 td. Its not great, but its not bad too. Its a bit like the stug. Dont have much free XP yet (got the is3a for free XP) and want to train my crew at the low tiers. I think of will go to the tier 7 asap and then train the crews.
Semovente is also a god tier op. The gun handling, dpm are superior. It has - 8 angles and 350m of base view range which with in max led to 466 view range without tubes. Also 55% of camo rating in static, 34 in dynamic. And double rate of penetration to caliber of the gun for HE (70 vs 38)
T5 and T6 are good, T6 with a 300+ damage is no joke in a T6 battle, but you need at least a 2 skill crew to maximize them. Or they'll just feel like nightmare to play with.
@@vincentferrer3770 basoto is not that op as 5 and 7. The camo rating is also huge, but the gun accuracy is Just... Its one of few tanks where I used accuracy boost instead of the dpm. Shells velocity is pretty bad too. And the fact that regular ammo is apcr does not help, only confuse - its penetration is bigger with distance than regular ap, and normalization is also worse. Caliber is Just 102mm, which many times Lead to ridiculous ricoshets. Got 3 Marks on both 5 and 6 lvl btw, working on 7
Well we learned something at least. Play the most OP TD line in the game, as top tier, and spam skill, and QB will play your vid. This TD line ruins the game. Just another OP Meta tank.
well you are very wrong, its faaaaar away from being op and meta, its just very average tier 10 tank, which happens to be good at being hull down, like many other tier 10 tanks
Bingo - training the crews for the tech tree tanks in the Vipera. So I'm running at 42.5% win rate, because WoT penalizes you with absolutely abhorrent RNG if you have less than a 105% crew.
Wtf i dont know what easy with this tank. They move like HT,running in 30, got a gun like of a tier6, below the t7 standard, until you use premium, eats spg shells like breakfast, and easily run around in circles by fast tanks. At least MM doesnt let you join a T9 battles.
"...they don't take arty fire very well" yeaaah tell that to my gw panther, had a ridiculous percent of shots probably around 25% on IT tds literally doing 0 damage and only stunning
@@jermu8706 if you think I play arty main you are very delusional. But I need to do arty missions and play about 5% of games with arty during a month. And still the success rate with my gw panther against the IT tds to do any !damage! is exceptionally bad compared against other vehicles. Actually it's so bad that I don't even remember the last time I only stunned another vehicle with a direct hit that did 0 damage
I was looking at the WR of the TDs and noticed that the tiers 5-7 seemed rather balanced based on WR, I haven't played WoT in awhile so I'm unsure how OP those tiers are.
Their description in the client of the Vipera is so badly written and researched as to be laughably bad but vipera is the Latin word for viper--that's the one thing they got right.
Vipera There is a very good explanation why the Vipera has a very average win rate In almost all the battles I have fought in the Vipera, I have been matched up against Viperas on the other team If the matchmaker does This consequently then since there Will be viperas on both sides.. the win/loss ratio would be close to 50%
Back on the days as i recall only t34-1 has that turret armor at t7 poor aim and not good hull but somehow its quite OP because its an MT and can sidescrape.
WG has no place for logic.Lets nerf Kranvagn, because everyone is playing it and it's the best tank to fight 279e and Chieftain!but also creates Minotauro.
I am playing this game from time to time, and I never follow thoughts of youtube players. For me the best tanks are heavies. I struggle with lights and mediums for example - T-34. No idea why but this is me! Thanks quicky however for doing this review.
yeah and uploading at a higher resolution would be nice as well (for his own replays tho, he obviously can't influence the resolution of uploaded replays from other players). I mean he plays already at 4K, so why not record it at that resolution as well?
i think that rn the winrate can be only near 50 due there being most of the time equal italian tds in both teams. so as of 5 italian tds win in one battle, 5 other italian tds lose in that same battle thus overall showing us 50% winrate. give it a few months when the mm will be less filled with them and you will have matches where italian tds are matched against other tds and we prob will see increase in winrates.
even the tier 6 bassotto is a great tank, the armour isn't really there though you will bounce tier 5 mediums however it has very nice alpha damage and great camo.
WG ruins the tanks we loved to play like the t29 or the kran, then they put this line of tanks in the game that are even way more powerful. Just doest make sense. And let's not talk about the leaf blower arty
dude it doesnt make sense because its not like that, this tank is so overhyped, its not a good tank, dont believe me? get one and play it yourself, you will be very disappointed
@@durachoks I know what your saying. These tanks are only good haul down. Thats why they nerfed the tanks like the kranvagn. But my point is, they did that so players will go for these tanks instead. That's what I'm thinking
@@durachoksMinotauro is holding 1800wn8 right now, youre literally just bad at playing it or actually use it and fear a nerf. Like I dont know what else to tell you, but statistics dont lie. Its one of the best hulldown tanks in the game right now. You also fail to understand the concept of it being essentially a heavy tank, but it takes up TD slots so you basically have an extra heavy in your match.
Yet unsuprising the winrate goes above 50 from t9. Where the armor can work every game. T7 and t8 are godlike when good matchup, yet become hp snacks against higher tier.
I hate this line, when i have it on oppo's team i change my game mode, you cant play your heavy in normal way becouse a fucking shit is impenetrable using gold lol.. you need to do another role becouse a TD is better aromored than a heavy.. I think the entire line need a nerf, like the Vipera having all the top of the turret green easy to penetrate, the Vipera is more balanced than the entire line, sorry for my bad english i hope people will undertand my opinion
I know that this is a year old video butttt….. as someone who plays wotblitz and witness these Italians tds in the mobile version, it’s a glorious thing😂
WG needs the time and money of Italian players. But these new tanks will be nerfed in the future, after the Italian market is more active in the player base.
I wish they would have made the roof armor weak on all of the italian Tds not just the viperia so they actually would have a weak spot (to higher caliber guns) and also be more vulnerable to artillery compared to some heavies. These things are the absolute worst thing to fight against in WoT, but especially when I'm just trying to enjoy my Japanese heavies and the tank is so tall that you can't penetrate Italian TDs' lower glacis and premium rounds are too low pen to even bother using against them while their clip potentional is so high they can one clip me in my Type 5 if they high roll a little bit. It just sucks shooting a premium AP round at a minotauros lower glacis, it bouncing, and then I get one clipped by HEAT ammo straight through my turret and I cant manipulate my armor like a maus because of the Type 5's profile
It's interesting how many top tier players say they are amazing but the majority of other players are unimpressed with them. Other than the tier 10 the rest are far from broken
I have seen two kinds of bad Vipera players, who might be responsible for the underperformance, when it comes to winrates: one of them clearly didn't check the stats and reviews of the tank and plays it as a backline TD, the other puts all his trust in the stats and becomes overconfident.
TD should first and formost be defense snipibg weapons that dont need armor cause they are sneaky far away and deadly. When you have a TD that rushes first ino the battle and nobody can take care of it if becomes an issue. I go a bit oldschool now maybe but for me there are 2 types of TD: the nashorn type of TD (and all similar types with open top and only bulletbroof armor). Quite big, no armor but nice long range shooting and gun habdling. The 2nd type is the stug 3/4 type. Small, compact, a bit on the fast side, skirmishers that have a bit more armor and trade accuracy for mobility and positioning. Anything like turtles, t95 or the italians are too one sided for me with no real trade off if on position
For anyone who's completed the tech tree already, would you consider the Tier 7, 8 or 9 blatantly OP? I'm close to unlocking the Tier 7 but I don't really feel like playing broken tanks, even if it would improve my decidedly average stats.
Then dont play them. im playing with my t54 with prem rounds (330 pen heat) and even then i have to search for weaker points on the front of the turret.... ON THE FREAKING TIER 7!
My 2 cent - Don't know how T7 is as I haven't played it. The T8 techtree tank is balanced, has a better cannon than the Premium "Viper". The Viper is engine weak and has a useless cannon if you further away a 10/M. OP turret, but otherwise not much to like for me. T9 is a strong and balanced tank. TX is brutally strong face to face and is mobile. However, has a low AP pen (265) to be a TD, but has a great velocity (1303). HEAT higher pen (330) but slightly worse velocity (1256). Since it's TX, expect it to be HEAT when you see one. TX is the one in the tree that is OP in my opinion.. ITA td's are quite boring to play for a long time. Although they often meet the requirements of today's META, they are too slow and therefore not that fun to play for me.
I hated tier 7, matchmaker and lower tier tanks made it impossible to play it effectively. When u are top tier, lower tiers just melt before u can do some damage, and when u are bottom tier higher tier pen you like no tomorrow. Gun was shit and limited turret traverse didn't help either. I am at tier 8 now and I enjoy it, gun and armor are just better and machmaker is more suited for the tank
I wonder how much of those win %'s are due to Italian TD's facing off against each other. How many battles have we seen with a Minotauro on each team or a CC Mk on each side, etc. Someone's gotta lose lol
Boring? If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it wrong. That goes along with the axiom that says, "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots."
I am still grinding to get this tank and the tier 6 Bassotto or whatever it's called I just absolutely hate that tank compared to tier 5 Semovente M41 🙄
It’s all just marketing Add OP tank line, make everyone either rush the line with gold or force them to buy prem time and grind, gain money, nerf tank line, profit? Or am I wrong?
Heaviest armour, great guns, decent mobility- they are OP, its as simple as that they need a nerf fast- across the tree. Italians never even made a decent tank in real life, why is this game so intent on making Italian tanks so dam good compared to the countries that actually did produce real tanks that were actually good? seriously WG just nerf these stupid OP tanks now.
great guns? decent mobility? lol, have you even played those tanks? tier 10 is a slow td with a complete garbage gun, which is good only at being hull down, and thats it, its mediocre tank at best, havent played lower tiers, but they have to be similar
@@robinkhn2547 arty OP? Excluding the lefh and including the recent m44 nerf arty is in no way OP, or even influential in any game at the moment. With the current state of arty a team with 1 arty will wind vs a team with 3 10 games out of 10, unless we're in tier V max game and the 3 arties are lefhs.
@@boriszoomzoom9090 yeah no fck weakpoints. Whats the point then of driving a heavily armoured vehicle when everyone can just so easily circumvent your armor.
@@MW-te5fv yes arty might not be OP in the sense that they are influential in the battle, but the reason why they are OP is because they can one-shot you literally from the other end of the map. And this should not be possible. Arty only exists so that even the most dumb player can play the game and score kills without needing even an ounce of skill. Arty needs to be removed from the game. It's just super toxic and promotes camping. OP shit.
Episode finale of sucking resources from the players. After Ob. 780 and few other actions, WG decided: let's put in the game bunch of OP armored TDs with shit penetration: those TDs need gold to pen anything, everybody need gold to pen those TDs. Courtain.
I don’t like playing that tier 7 Italian TD (so haven’t bothered with its higher tier siblings). Gun handling is meh and all round a bit sluggish with poor traverse. Maybe because my preference is that play agile mediums with snappy gun handling I find this thing boring
Gameplay didnt catch me. 20 APCR + 6 AP vs T6+T7 that where a lot of the time stock or just didnt know, that are playing against an autoloader. He does one shot and they keep pushing him despite being oneshot and he still has 2 shots left. This just shows how ridiculous this tanks are compared to the old tanks. Look at the VK3002D. Even with APCR he is never going to penetrate from the front and it isnt mobile enough to outflank a TD with a turret.
Honestly, I really do despise these tanks for continuing the trend of heavy, fast, high alpha, hull down tanks. When a tank has almost NO weak points head on, it just drains the fun from the game, especially as HE are useless.
And the maps are too small and tight to flank. First team that gets impatient and shows their hulls lose. 😎😁
i agree
Faster games mean more games
well spoken. I agree wholely.
Fast? High alpha?
5 or 6 years ago, a T10 Tank with 260 turret armor and 220 frontal hull armor was a good tank, now a T7 tank have that.
Power creep goes up and funn goes down.
What makes it worse is when supposedly "OP" tech tree tanks get nerfed for balance, yet WG is perfectly ok putting mosters like this thing into the game, for example they aren't dead tanks but any derpy tanks that used HE like the KV2, OI, or T49 aren't very good after the HE nerf or how they nerfed the bulldog or the ISU-152 (then re-added the pre-nerfed tank as a premium) and there are surely many more I just don't recall.
@@vgamesx1 I know you talked about the ISU-152 that was re-added as a premium, but will the bulldog ever get a premium variant with that godlike autoloader it used to have? :(
@@thunder7135 I dunno 🤷
@@thunder7135 hopefully not.
@@vgamesx1 T95 with HE, what?
Thank you for making a video of my game! My opinioin of these tanks are kind of a mixed bag. I like the tanks but I miss the high octane action at the same time.
Upvotes?
Pin?
Well played mate
well played mate.
Cool headed play
Well earned victory
I love how they nerfed the T29 so this could trump it and take best-in-teir.
My boy... look what they did to my boy...
@@blakkwaltz dont worry, the t29 is still good. Even better in some ways.
Just gotta load the 240 alpha gun and go full gold :P
That gun actually got its dpm and accuracy(?) buffed, so it's in a better place than the 320 gun I the previous patch.
Why does this have more hp at tier 7 than a tier 8 ISU-152??
Clearly to balance its poor armour
@@karmel376h KEKW
@@karmel376h and it isn't even super slow lol🤣
Because its more like an HT than a TD, its gun is below TD standard.
@@vincentferrer3770 yet the T28 Prototype - a similar TD/HT hybrid to the Italian's has awfully low hit points.
To imagine this is the same tier as that friendly T25/2
yesterday i had a fight in kv2 against the tier 7 smv. dude was on 600hp and coming me at frontally. then he came to face hug me. appearantly kv2 is tall enough to see his roof plate of turret and so i took his 600hp with overmatching that roof plate.
While I agree with the fact that there tanks could be end up being the most boring tanks to play inside the game, I still wait for the information, when will the long planned rework for this map comes out live. I remember around 1 year ago there was 3 potiential leaks, but it never came.
I think the Vipera doesn't have an outrageous win ratio because it completely falls down against tier 9 and 10s firing HEAT at it. The turret top weakspot can be quite frustrating aswell and finally the gun absolutely sucks for any engagement exceeding the distance of 300 meters.
Ez to get even with ISU firing gold....
@@artureff3046 or t103
You should give the bassotto a try, fully upgraded, this is a super sneaky beast
I don't think you know the playerbase if you think that super easy to play powerful vehicles will be unpopular with statistically good players. Wins matter more than fun for stat padders
I've seen videos of kolobanovs medals obtained by capping more exciting then this one
@10:46, I feel bluffing here is important. Your opponents would unlikely know you had 2 rounds in the mag and needed to reload earlier than expected. Players under pressure are not going to think clearly so the bluff is valid. That you have more to lose to show you are reloading.
Also you are exposing only your best armour in this situation. They empty their mag and now you can cross safely with your max burst damage ready. Even if they pen you from that cover, its better than taking lower plate shots. That is in part to how mirror fights work with this tank, I would imagine the victor will be the player who has the most side or lower plate shots (if life is equalised).
(frontally, you have a 13% chance upper plate and a chance at skimming the 0% sized cupola to score any no HE damage or until you catch the side of the tank (either the frontal side transition plates (upper hull) that is angled 45° or the full side, assuming you have gold and 212 pen). Otherwise scoring damage is hard to impossible)
Agreed
with every patch, i just feel better and better about my decision of not playing WOT anymore.
These things are a toxic addition to the game. Even though some of the changes were great, overall this was a really discouraging update.
yeah, lets trash one of the best updates, because they added mediocre tank which is good hull down...seems right
@@durachoks Sorry but that one addition outweighs the good of the update.
@@artm1973 sorry but no, lessening 3 arty games, fixing some maps, ebr gets matchmaking is way more important than adding another average hull down tank which changes completely nothing, like we already dont have a bunch of those tanks
Look at the bright side. It doesnt have wheels.
@@durachoks I think the word average or mediocre is what shows how shortsighted you are. You might as well call 279(e) terrible and 60TP worst piece of garbage ever. Not everyone play premium crap or can level up instantly a new line of tank so powercreeping is a thing.
I’m not even lying. I thought the Kv-1s out line looked like a S-51😂
I can see now that there is no balance in the tanks now. As you can see the TD of American tanks is a very less upgrade. Imagine other countries TD has automatic reloading but in the US has long reloading. I hope that their will be a new update that the TD of US will be upgrade the reloading time and armor
lol E3 is a lot better than this TD, its actually could be best TD in tier 10, competing only with 268v4 and E4 is also a very good TD
I love destroying Italian TDs in my AT 15 lmao, so satisfying
I've been playing arty a lot more and just focusing any Italian TD. I hate this update but at least IO get some measure of fun out of it.
lower plate is not big weakpoint in this tier. 160+mm while most tier 7 tanks have roughly 170 pen
I uninstalled a week ago.... it is shockingly ... liberating. I don't have premium, so I don't feel forced to log on, I am un-utter ably tired of the consistent making of new tech trees with zero modules that carry over to the next tier, I am tired of 80% crews on stock tanks (as teammates and for myself), I am *tired* of feeling that I *need* to pay to play, let alone pay2win.
I can just watch replays and say "yep, that looked awful" and not have it have any effect on my life, as I am not going to have to log in to "play" a game that has an awful power creep/research drain system that makes me more frustrated than happy when I spend time "playing" it.
Nice a new Quickybaby video. And about the new Italian tds...
And more; its a tier 7 game.
Great job. Thanks Quickybaby
And an answer to your question at the end of the video. I like my Italian tier 5 td. Its not great, but its not bad too. Its a bit like the stug. Dont have much free XP yet (got the is3a for free XP) and want to train my crew at the low tiers. I think of will go to the tier 7 asap and then train the crews.
Semovente is also a god tier op. The gun handling, dpm are superior. It has - 8 angles and 350m of base view range which with in max led to 466 view range without tubes. Also 55% of camo rating in static, 34 in dynamic. And double rate of penetration to caliber of the gun for HE (70 vs 38)
T5 and T6 are good, T6 with a 300+ damage is no joke in a T6 battle, but you need at least a 2 skill crew to maximize them. Or they'll just feel like nightmare to play with.
@@vincentferrer3770 basoto is not that op as 5 and 7. The camo rating is also huge, but the gun accuracy is Just... Its one of few tanks where I used accuracy boost instead of the dpm. Shells velocity is pretty bad too. And the fact that regular ammo is apcr does not help, only confuse - its penetration is bigger with distance than regular ap, and normalization is also worse. Caliber is Just 102mm, which many times Lead to ridiculous ricoshets.
Got 3 Marks on both 5 and 6 lvl btw, working on 7
Oh man, this is directed at me! Thanks QB!
Watching this while high with those outlines was a trip and a half
Well we learned something at least. Play the most OP TD line in the game, as top tier, and spam skill, and QB will play your vid. This TD line ruins the game. Just another OP Meta tank.
well you are very wrong, its faaaaar away from being op and meta, its just very average tier 10 tank, which happens to be good at being hull down, like many other tier 10 tanks
@@durachoks Stop sniffing glue, that stuff is clearly killing your brain cells...
@@auquitaine9201 dont believe me? get that tank, go play it and see foryourself how you will suck in it...
Bingo - training the crews for the tech tree tanks in the Vipera. So I'm running at 42.5% win rate, because WoT penalizes you with absolutely abhorrent RNG if you have less than a 105% crew.
These Italian TD's just foster a camping mentality that further erodes the use of LT's. I find myself playing a lot more tier 5 and down than 6-10
wooo lesgoooo mom im almost famous!!!
My eyes with those messed up outlines are freaking out lol!!! Keep up the content QB!!!!
Wtf i dont know what easy with this tank. They move like HT,running in 30, got a gun like of a tier6, below the t7 standard, until you use premium, eats spg shells like breakfast, and easily run around in circles by fast tanks. At least MM doesnt let you join a T9 battles.
For a FTP player like me, the grind on this tank is hard, I hope it gets better when I FINALLY upgrade it all.
Vents, rotation mec and turbo. Worked great for me. The gun pen is shitt on all the guns so some Gold is needed for +2
"...they don't take arty fire very well" yeaaah tell that to my gw panther, had a ridiculous percent of shots probably around 25% on IT tds literally doing 0 damage and only stunning
omg! you only had a 1/4 success rate while afk in base clicking on targets? i hope you can cope with that :(((
@@jermu8706 if you think I play arty main you are very delusional. But I need to do arty missions and play about 5% of games with arty during a month. And still the success rate with my gw panther against the IT tds to do any !damage! is exceptionally bad compared against other vehicles. Actually it's so bad that I don't even remember the last time I only stunned another vehicle with a direct hit that did 0 damage
I was looking at the WR of the TDs and noticed that the tiers 5-7 seemed rather balanced based on WR, I haven't played WoT in awhile so I'm unsure how OP those tiers are.
These tanks are garbage, don't mind grinding them
@@Rkglafjfs i was going to grind them regardless of garbage or op
@@chefsadventures7849 we are on the same boat, i always wanted to play italian tds and this is the right chance, altough they are meh tanks
It's called a Viper
WG didn't use grammarly before pushing it out, like a diarrhea afternoon
Their description in the client of the Vipera is so badly written and researched as to be laughably bad but vipera is the Latin word for viper--that's the one thing they got right.
Italian TD line are made for spam premium ammo: you vs enemy and enemy vs you.
Vipera
There is a very good explanation why the Vipera has a very average win rate
In almost all the battles I have fought in the Vipera, I have been matched up against Viperas on the other team
If the matchmaker does This consequently then since there Will be viperas on both sides.. the win/loss ratio would be close to 50%
This is not the first time you compare the Minotaurs 45 gun traverse range to the FV 4005. FV was buffed to 90 some time ago (years even).
The outlines are a new optional feature that will show that player which parts of the opposing tanks are still behind cover.
That wasn't the outline in the video.
Awesome, have a nice weekend!
Back on the days as i recall only t34-1 has that turret armor at t7 poor aim and not good hull but somehow its quite OP because its an MT and can sidescrape.
WG has no place for logic.Lets nerf Kranvagn, because everyone is playing it and it's the best tank to fight 279e and Chieftain!but also creates Minotauro.
I am playing this game from time to time, and I never follow thoughts of youtube players. For me the best tanks are heavies. I struggle with lights and mediums for example - T-34. No idea why but this is me! Thanks quicky however for doing this review.
hey qb, do you think you could turn up the bitrate on your recording a little ? the trees and rocks get really blurry with youtube compression
yeah and uploading at a higher resolution would be nice as well (for his own replays tho, he obviously can't influence the resolution of uploaded replays from other players). I mean he plays already at 4K, so why not record it at that resolution as well?
i think that rn the winrate can be only near 50 due there being most of the time equal italian tds in both teams. so as of 5 italian tds win in one battle, 5 other italian tds lose in that same battle thus overall showing us 50% winrate. give it a few months when the mm will be less filled with them and you will have matches where italian tds are matched against other tds and we prob will see increase in winrates.
lol what wr increase? wana bet that those trash TDs wont even have 50%?
even the tier 6 bassotto is a great tank, the armour isn't really there though you will bounce tier 5 mediums however it has very nice alpha damage and great camo.
WG ruins the tanks we loved to play like the t29 or the kran, then they put this line of tanks in the game that are even way more powerful. Just doest make sense. And let's not talk about the leaf blower arty
dude it doesnt make sense because its not like that, this tank is so overhyped, its not a good tank, dont believe me? get one and play it yourself, you will be very disappointed
@@durachoks I know what your saying. These tanks are only good haul down. Thats why they nerfed the tanks like the kranvagn. But my point is, they did that so players will go for these tanks instead. That's what I'm thinking
@@durachoks You went around the entire goddamn comment section leaving theses "its not good" comments. Makes you think.
@@jermu8706 yes I did that, because its just not, its overhyped as F
@@durachoksMinotauro is holding 1800wn8 right now, youre literally just bad at playing it or actually use it and fear a nerf. Like I dont know what else to tell you, but statistics dont lie. Its one of the best hulldown tanks in the game right now. You also fail to understand the concept of it being essentially a heavy tank, but it takes up TD slots so you basically have an extra heavy in your match.
Yet unsuprising the winrate goes above 50 from t9. Where the armor can work every game. T7 and t8 are godlike when good matchup, yet become hp snacks against higher tier.
Love the content. Ty QB!
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Tank Destroyer are not as competitive as a Heavy Tank
T30 (used to be a Heavy Tank): Am I a joke to you ? ....
The difference is that vipera has to face tier IX and X, where the armor is not as effective anymore.
Nice replay
Gj qb with the content :) respect
I hate this line, when i have it on oppo's team i change my game mode, you cant play your heavy in normal way becouse a fucking shit is impenetrable using gold lol.. you need to do another role becouse a TD is better aromored than a heavy.. I think the entire line need a nerf, like the Vipera having all the top of the turret green easy to penetrate, the Vipera is more balanced than the entire line, sorry for my bad english i hope people will undertand my opinion
I know that this is a year old video butttt….. as someone who plays wotblitz and witness these Italians tds in the mobile version, it’s a glorious thing😂
WG needs the time and money of Italian players. But these new tanks will be nerfed in the future, after the Italian market is more active in the player base.
I wish they would have made the roof armor weak on all of the italian Tds not just the viperia so they actually would have a weak spot (to higher caliber guns) and also be more vulnerable to artillery compared to some heavies. These things are the absolute worst thing to fight against in WoT, but especially when I'm just trying to enjoy my Japanese heavies and the tank is so tall that you can't penetrate Italian TDs' lower glacis and premium rounds are too low pen to even bother using against them while their clip potentional is so high they can one clip me in my Type 5 if they high roll a little bit.
It just sucks shooting a premium AP round at a minotauros lower glacis, it bouncing, and then I get one clipped by HEAT ammo straight through my turret and I cant manipulate my armor like a maus because of the Type 5's profile
I thought that I was the boss when I did 7k damage in vz55. Now I feel like a fool
Toxic hull down TD in perfectly made for it corridor map.
It's interesting how many top tier players say they are amazing but the majority of other players are unimpressed with them. Other than the tier 10 the rest are far from broken
I have seen two kinds of bad Vipera players, who might be responsible for the underperformance, when it comes to winrates: one of them clearly didn't check the stats and reviews of the tank and plays it as a backline TD, the other puts all his trust in the stats and becomes overconfident.
TD should first and formost be defense snipibg weapons that dont need armor cause they are sneaky far away and deadly. When you have a TD that rushes first ino the battle and nobody can take care of it if becomes an issue. I go a bit oldschool now maybe but for me there are 2 types of TD: the nashorn type of TD (and all similar types with open top and only bulletbroof armor). Quite big, no armor but nice long range shooting and gun habdling. The 2nd type is the stug 3/4 type. Small, compact, a bit on the fast side, skirmishers that have a bit more armor and trade accuracy for mobility and positioning. Anything like turtles, t95 or the italians are too one sided for me with no real trade off if on position
For anyone who's completed the tech tree already, would you consider the Tier 7, 8 or 9 blatantly OP? I'm close to unlocking the Tier 7 but I don't really feel like playing broken tanks, even if it would improve my decidedly average stats.
Then dont play them. im playing with my t54 with prem rounds (330 pen heat) and even then i have to search for weaker points on the front of the turret.... ON THE FREAKING TIER 7!
My 2 cent - Don't know how T7 is as I haven't played it. The T8 techtree tank is balanced, has a better cannon than the Premium "Viper". The Viper is engine weak and has a useless cannon if you further away a 10/M. OP turret, but otherwise not much to like for me. T9 is a strong and balanced tank. TX is brutally strong face to face and is mobile. However, has a low AP pen (265) to be a TD, but has a great velocity (1303). HEAT higher pen (330) but slightly worse velocity (1256). Since it's TX, expect it to be HEAT when you see one. TX is the one in the tree that is OP in my opinion.. ITA td's are quite boring to play for a long time. Although they often meet the requirements of today's META, they are too slow and therefore not that fun to play for me.
I hated tier 7, matchmaker and lower tier tanks made it impossible to play it effectively. When u are top tier, lower tiers just melt before u can do some damage, and when u are bottom tier higher tier pen you like no tomorrow. Gun was shit and limited turret traverse didn't help either. I am at tier 8 now and I enjoy it, gun and armor are just better and machmaker is more suited for the tank
@@gyorgyr.6554 That's bs. EDIT: I see 100% nearly everywhere.. Told you it was bs. You should just actually do what you're saying or improve.
@@moo8698 idk man, i was in the face of it, and bounced in many places....
I wonder how much of those win %'s are due to Italian TD's facing off against each other. How many battles have we seen with a Minotauro on each team or a CC Mk on each side, etc. Someone's gotta lose lol
When I saw some of the outlines esspeicaly the artillery I was like, wait wtf?!? They have missile tanks now?
I hated that tier vii.
Maybe it's because I only had 1 match where I wasn't facing tier ixs, but I thought it was awful.
Outlining is so buggy lmao , sometimes even stop working all together
Boring? If you find yourself in a fair fight, you're doing it wrong.
That goes along with the axiom that says, "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots."
OP tier 7 kills tier 6... Grate game it is.
Is this the new t29. Have we found the new king of the hill?
I am still grinding to get this tank and the tier 6 Bassotto or whatever it's called I just absolutely hate that tank compared to tier 5 Semovente M41 🙄
Then QuickyBaby made a video pointing this out and the rest is history lol
I hate the tier 7. The guns penetration is absolutely 💩. Only good thing about the tank is the armor
So he was top tier but fires full premium ammo. Why?
The AT7 Outline is a Crysler GF
For me the Vipera is absolute trash. It lacks penetration unless you go after lights and meds.
Yeah I hate how every match I play tier 8 or above, I always see an Italian td. It pisses me off
U are gettin lucky wiyh minotauro i got 50 fights with it and 40%win rate , i only get 3-15 teams
Vipera top is weak compare to normal tank counter part but vipera fire inter clip faster
looks like win team will be who has more italian t7 and above td's realy soon.
I haven't been playing because I live in BFE and have crap internet that can't hold a steady ping
I bet the Italian TD's will be nerfed before I even get on that line!!!
It’s all just marketing
Add OP tank line, make everyone either rush the line with gold or force them to buy prem time and grind, gain money, nerf tank line, profit? Or am I wrong?
Please stop misusing the word "epic". It's so ignorant, dude. It's also so 2013.
FV4005 has 180 degrees of turret rotation while minataro has 90 degrees.
7:39 Small typo, it's not 305 mm (God forbid you give such ideas to WG)
Taking on that tank is a pain on the ass
Right now the vipara are focus-fired, and all know the weak spots.
Heaviest armour, great guns, decent mobility- they are OP, its as simple as that they need a nerf fast- across the tree. Italians never even made a decent tank in real life, why is this game so intent on making Italian tanks so dam good compared to the countries that actually did produce real tanks that were actually good? seriously WG just nerf these stupid OP tanks now.
great guns? decent mobility? lol, have you even played those tanks? tier 10 is a slow td with a complete garbage gun, which is good only at being hull down, and thats it, its mediocre tank at best, havent played lower tiers, but they have to be similar
They really need to bring arty HE back.
no, arty is still borderline OP, at least at low and mid-tiers. However HE for normal tanks needs to come back.
@@robinkhn2547 or we just put an actual cupola on the damn tank
@@robinkhn2547 arty OP? Excluding the lefh and including the recent m44 nerf arty is in no way OP, or even influential in any game at the moment. With the current state of arty a team with 1 arty will wind vs a team with 3 10 games out of 10, unless we're in tier V max game and the 3 arties are lefhs.
@@boriszoomzoom9090 yeah no fck weakpoints. Whats the point then of driving a heavily armoured vehicle when everyone can just so easily circumvent your armor.
@@MW-te5fv yes arty might not be OP in the sense that they are influential in the battle, but the reason why they are OP is because they can one-shot you literally from the other end of the map. And this should not be possible. Arty only exists so that even the most dumb player can play the game and score kills without needing even an ounce of skill. Arty needs to be removed from the game. It's just super toxic and promotes camping. OP shit.
That shit is VERY OP!
RNG without random, premium ammo as a credit drain and a matchmaker for premium.
Almost never see Vipera anymore on the NA server...
Episode finale of sucking resources from the players. After Ob. 780 and few other actions, WG decided: let's put in the game bunch of OP armored TDs with shit penetration: those TDs need gold to pen anything, everybody need gold to pen those TDs. Courtain.
I don’t like playing that tier 7 Italian TD (so haven’t bothered with its higher tier siblings).
Gun handling is meh and all round a bit sluggish with poor traverse. Maybe because my preference is that play agile mediums with snappy gun handling I find this thing boring
Gameplay didnt catch me. 20 APCR + 6 AP vs T6+T7 that where a lot of the time stock or just didnt know, that are playing against an autoloader. He does one shot and they keep pushing him despite being oneshot and he still has 2 shots left.
This just shows how ridiculous this tanks are compared to the old tanks. Look at the VK3002D. Even with APCR he is never going to penetrate from the front and it isnt mobile enough to outflank a TD with a turret.
The issue with playing overpowered tanks is that they generally are very boring to play and offer very little
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Tier 8 is my most hated tier
As a CC64 Blitz player, Premiums are broken!
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Italian TDs? Haven't played in almost 2 years 🤷♂️