More Antikythera Mechanism Secrets Revealed: What Was This Ancient Computer For?
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I guess most of the people following your channel wont fall to such a scam, but thanks Anton !
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you don't reveal MORE secrets, you only state what we already knew
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Mesin ini digunakan sebagai penanda waktu dari detik hingga tahun, selain itu untuk penanda musim seperti eksentrisitas, fase equinox, solstice, dan apsis dan sebagainya seperti ilmu astronomi terkini yang bisa ditelusuri di Wikipedia. Maka teka teki kegunaannya sudah terjawab dengan sciences terkini, jika mau menggabungkan dan mengkonversikannya.
The 'pin and slot' mechanism used to recreate the moon's orbit allows one gear to move with an oscillating speed. The mathematics necessary to ensure the periodic movement of this gear remains accurately analogous to the moon's movement, suggests the designer/s had a functional (although most likely limited) calculus method. This alone calls into question our understanding of the depth of mathematics/ engineering of that era and thus the history of mathematics/ engineering in general. Also this is not a dry run; we are looking at several hundreds of years of technological evolution to arrive at this fine mechanism; the perfection of the mathematics, the perfection of the smelting (to allow precise/durable gear manufacture), the perfection of the fabrication tools, not to mention the leap of genius required to take the mathematics/ astronomical concepts and translate them into a mechanical device of such astounding intricacy. Love to all.
Its fabrication and general quality shows clearly this was by far, not the first device produced by the creator. They must have had a workshop where they were knocking these out for decades or more.
@@IK-wc4od It does make me wonder what happened to all the others. I can't imagine they're all at the bottom of the Mediterranean or Aegean Seas.
quote " suggests the designer/s had a functional (although most likely limited) calculus method."
Um, have you heard they found an old parchment which had been overwritten, the original script was by Archimedes (from the similar time period) and was about a form of calculus. So it is definitely possible that another Greek/Hellenistic mathematician had the same thought, or even shared the info that Archimedes had developed.
And isn't "Hublot' the very high end watch maker, attempting to re-create this mechanism???
What simple man can accomplish when the resources around him are free to his use.
Anton, have a look at the YT channel "Clickspring". Chris is making a reproduction by hand mostly using tools known or expected to have been used in that time period.
It's a wonderful channel and he is taking time to do _tons_ of research on the device, learning along the journey to completion.
Agreed. I can't read or watch anything about the Antikythera Mechanism without hearing "G'day, Chris here".
Just was about to comment this. Much recommended to check this channel out
Yes this!!! Anton you must watch clicksprings It’s some of the very best content on RUclips
One of my favourite YT series of all time!
just finished his series on the build. brilliant
During the 3rd Macedonian war, a roman tribune , Caius Sulpicius Gallus, predicted a lunar eclipse before the battle of Pydna in 168 BC, thus avoiding any panic in the roman camp
Maybe he had a similar mechanism
its highly likely that all men of means and learning had similar devices. so much material history has been lost to the smelters fire by cultures who did not value the significance of such items as more than a source of raw materials they didnt have to dig out of the ground themselves. no telling how advanced the ancient world actually was.
Maybe, but one can't build a device like this without the basic math being well understood.
@@fakiirification it’s quite an amazing discovery, without a doubt. I agree with you, I think the ancients were far more advanced than has been previously assumed. What modest amount of their civilization that has survived to present times is regarded as Classical for good reasons: They were extremely intelligent and preoccupied with big ideas, virtues, glory and so forth. I have no doubts that their energetic curiosity and desire to conquer their world around drove them to innovations and inventions that would boggle our minds if we could see them. Perhaps “Genius” is a real thing after all, as the Greeks thought of it. They appear to have had plenty of it.
I'm fascinated by the Antikythera Mechanism. I wish they had a section for it at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, CA (really excellent museum).
To me it seems highly likely that this was a not a first generation device. I don't have data to prove that, but given the number of functions it had, it most likely was preceded by several generations of simpler devices.
That’s a reasonable hypothesis, I do hope that it’s correct
Why not mention it? They might like the idea 😊
This was not the first machine the creator built, its too complex. I think youre right
I was just thinking the same thing. It seems too 'advanced' to be a prototype.
Chriss at the "Clickspring" channel here on RUclips has said as much himself. His contention is that the mechanism from the ship wreck shown here is "miniaturized" That is, it was built to the smallest possible size employing special brackets and supports that allow components to be as thin and light as possible yet still work reliably.
If it were a "one off" or prototype machine then it would have been made somewhat simpler, larger and heavier in order to ensure that it worked at all. ie: This is like comparing the iPhone13 mini to a 1983 Motorola 8000
Chriss is making a RUclips video series demonstrating his hand made reconstruction of the Antikythera Mechanism. He has even made the tools used in producing such a device from scratch, by hand. Top channel, professional level production values, take a peek at "Clickspring"
The Clickspring Channel is Absolutely Awesome. I was a fitter and turner, and I am blown away by Chris’s skills. Not only is he reconstructing the Mechanism by hand, he is also recreating the same tools, such as vices, files, drills and drill bits etc. by hand as well. And he also has videos that show how this was done too.
Some very instructive videos can (at times) unfortunately put you to sleep, that IS NOT case with Chris.
What is also pertinent is that. Chris also explains the mathematical equations (also without boring you to death) and formulas needed for this mechanism to work, and how the Ancient Greek lunar calendar was so very different to what we use.
His last video (the one where he hand carves the brass plate in Ancient Greek) would have taken many dozens (hundreds even) of hours to do.
I simply can’t recommend his “Clickspring” channel enough
As a Greek it just feels so good to listen to the pronunciation of Antikythera mechanism correctly by a foreigner. 😅
Well, it was likely made by people who spoke either the Attican or the Peloponnesian Dorian dialect, so it's highly improbable that the original pronunciation sounded anything like modern Hellene. Just sayin'.
@@archenema6792 Well actually I believe it's named like that because it was found near the coast of the modern Greek island of Antikythera. The name wasn't inscribed on the mechanism or something. Like imagine finding the Eiffel Tower in France and naming it the Paris Tower. I appreciate your comment though.
@@petrosroussos749 You're certainly correct in that assessment. I wonder what they original owners called it.
Thank you, Anton. Ancient people did not have the tools and materials we now have, or the accumulated knowledge of the last couple millenia, but they were just as intelligent and as resourceful as we.
ANTON FINALLY HITTING THE WELL DESERVED 1 MILLION!!!!!!!
I had the amazing experience of seeing this artifact in Athens about eight years ago. It's smaller than I expected and looks rather rough in appearance. But what a thrill! Thanks for the update on ongoing research!
When 2000 years old you reach, look as good, you will not.
Ooh, cool! You're lucky! What a tremendous privilege.👍
@@johnpublic6582 No, Master Yoda. We will not. 👍
@@johnpublic6582 He-he-hn!
Lol. Reminds me when I saw the Mona Lisa in 1980. It was much smaller than I expected, and dulled, dreary, and had an olive-tinted patina from old age.
Crazy how smart ancient Greeks were
or maybe they found ancient technology they were replicating
@@middle-agedmacdonald2965 go back to the sci-fi channel.
@@tylermcnally8232 so current modern technology reproduces "modern" ancient technology, and you're all in?
but the possibility that ancient people finding even more ancient technology and reproducing it is inconceivable?
Go back to the Princess Bride Ty.
If you haven’t seen Clickspring’s video of his period recreation of this device you definitely should watch them.
An ancient Greek invented the steam turbine about 2,000 years ago. However, he saw it as nothing more than a novel toy and did not see the potential industrial and transport applications! Just imagine, the industrial revolution 2,000 years ago!!!!
They saw that it had the potential of putting the slaves out of work.
Welp, i have seen videos claiming that those steam engines were used in temples to give "effects". I do not know if that is valid, or the sole use.
I thought it was a Roman invention, then again the Greeks were a part of the Roman Empire for a time and I don’t really feel like looking it up right now
@@littleredpony6868 Greek inventor during the Roman period.
Likewise, the Incas had invented the wheel, but not for transportation.
I am SOOOO SORRY to hear about your son, Anton! That must be so hard to deal with on an emotional level, and yet you're still on here bringing us amazing videos regardless! That speaks volumes on how strong you are as a person on deep levels! You're greatly appreciated brother and you're an inspiration to me to remain positive throughout whatever life throws at you. Love you bro. I'm only a viewer but if you ever need to talk or anything I'd happily lend you an ear! Take care man
Anton is the OG wonderful person
This device must have seemed utterly magical in a time when something like this was so far ahead of contemporary engineering.
Perhaps Beings from the future helped build it?
@@ridethecurve55 ALIENS!!!!!
@@ridethecurve55 👍Absolutely. Would love to believe that to be the case. Certainly a massive leap forward in technology, almost like an iPhone in Victorian times.
we dont actually know how advanced the ancient world was. So much is lost that only random chance discoveries like this shed any light at all on the smaller details of ancient knowledge. we know they were familear with lathe machining and advanced file work techniques including scraping and lapping. they had to have some form of mass production understanding just because of the massive numbers of ancient armies. no way a couple craftsmen in sheds could outfit an army of 50,000 men with swords and spears and armor any anything like a timely manner without a specialization of labor and assembly line methods.
@@fakiirification I agree with you! Great comment!!!
I envy all the people who find Clickspring for the first time. You have so much content to watch! Just keep in mind that he’s not a typical youtuber. He’s sanding that stuff himself, so it’s gonna be a while
You envy me then, I'm about to see what all the fuss is about ;)
@@ctakitimu It great!
I bought my first 3d printer with the intent of building one of these!
The design I used was based on the image @ 1:32...wow, talk about memory lane!
Got the majority of it done when it hit me that the planetary motion predicted by the device was based on Epicycles; wheels within wheels.
Perfect circles and other platonic solids 'ruled the intervals' of stars and planets alike.
The Greeks believed that retrograde motion and other phenomena could be explained with 'circles within circles'.
Epicycles can predict planetary motion fairly well, but over long intervals (40 years) the predictions 'drift' quite a lot.
There is nothing in the mechanism that accounts for elliptical orbits, BTW.
I never finished the indicator, but dang! the lunar face mechanism is genius!
Precise stationkeeping at sea for an Ocean Navigating culture.
Btw, Claudius Ptolemy of Alexandria(not of the somatophylax lineage) saw proof the Earth was spherical almost 2,000 years ago and he was by far not the only one who know this for centuries if not for millenia prior.
Most of the ancient civilisations were aware of it. The flat earth and dark age ideas have more to do with later Christians and their former-Christian descendants congratulating themselves than any basis in reality.
Also, Poseidonius calculated the circumference of earth(meaning he knew it was round and wanted to measure it using astronomy)
The thought that the ancients may have had functioning clocks still blows me away. Amazing video as always Anton. Since I started watching your videos awhile back, I think my IQ may have risen a couple of points. Lord knows I need all the help I can get, so thanks for being there to educate us. Cheers from South Carolina.
The ancient Romans had fairly accurate (for the time) water clocks. The Greeks may have had them also. The Romans also had devices for figuring out the mileage for distance…not just on land, but also at sea. Read Vitruvius’s book “De Architectura” written for Augustus between 30 -15 B.C.E.
@@robertwilliamson6121 genius...
I just came back from 10 days in Rhodes, today and the temple up there was amazing on the top of the mountain
shocked that you did not mention the exhaustive work of Chris over at the Clickspring youtube channel. He is going through a whole series on recreating this device using shop made tools and materials that would have been available to the ancient greeks at the time, just to prove how possible it was for them to have made it. fascinating high production value videos that will glue anyone to their screen for hours at a time.
I always trust you over many other channels for news like this. Thank you for all you do, Anton! ❤️ ❤️ 🖖🏼🙂👍🏼
Definitely. When it comes to discoveries like this some people will add a bunch of nonsense to the narrative. I find that rather unfortunate
Loved this topic. Would love more videos like this. Keep strong Anton.
Your videos are always so informative, and your voice omits compassion for the subject, thanks for the knowledge!
So basically, humans invented complex gearing mechanisms twice and at least 1,500 years apart? If true, it's astonishing and makes you wonder if the human species were to be "planted" onto 1,000 different planets, would they each come up with similar complex gearing mechanisms?
I think discovery is more appropriate than invention. Anything intelligent enough, with the same physical constants, will reach the same solutions. It's intriguing how predetermined it all feels. You have to figure out round wheels, long before you break the speed of sound. It feels like a skill tree game mechanic.
Depends on the resources available.
Depends on the problems encountered.
okay now take this and add what we know about the creation of biological life with the catalysts of RNA and peptides seen on comets before. is there something out there just shooting life to planets all over the place? were we the singularity of success because of the uniqueness of our own universal structure?
It was not re invented. The knowledge of gearing survived in the Arab world while Europe went dark. It was RE introduced by arabs coming into spain in the 1400s. Much was lost of the advanced mechanism but the basics were retained and copied for centuries until then.
I wondered when you'd talk about this! What a mechanism!!! Incredible accuracy and mechanical engineering... and the accuracy of the data with the level of Astronomy they had at the time o m g
Amazing example of what we (as humans) are capable of. Amazing engineering.
Ever plotted a course on a map while at sea?
They were recording and refining observational data in a way that makes modern schooling look foolish and impotent.
In comparison.
pretty sure their level of calendar was/is superior to ours
Hi Anton. Just dropping in to say thank you for doing what you do. I love that I can keep learning through your channel. Stay wonderful! ❤
Sorry for your loss ❤️ and thanks for bringing these amazing videos to us day out and day in.
My condolences about the passing of your child, Anton. May he rest in peace. Perhaps his consciousness is now free to explore the vastness of space and time.
The BBC made an excellent documentary a few years ago about how the workings of this were decoded, including the building of a working replica. It was called 'The Two Thousand Year Old Computer' and I believe it can now also be found on RUclips under the same name.
Watched it in fascination
Always excellent content and easy to understand information. Thanks Anton!!
Thanks. I have found this story fascinating for a long time. Great update.
Again, brilliant as usual Mr Petrov.
This bronze mechanism survived exactly because of the sinking of the ship that carried it. Most bronze items of the ancient world including statues were later melted and reused for pots and weapons.
Necessity being the death of invention.
This s some in-dept analysys. Awesome vid!
Oh man….. Anton covering these topics is thrilling!! It gives it the credibility I always long for….. hearing from him makes me want to research and learn about it. Thanks to this wonderful audience for some great recommendations of where to learn more. This audience is the BEST. Guess Anton just attracts wonderful people. And I thought he was talking to me :) hello wonderful people!!
Just think about the things they made we haven’t discovered. This device was obviously rare and not many craftsmen could produce this and may or most likely would have been a joint effort. Imagine what else they might have made just waiting to be found, or maybe never found.
given the complexity of the tools and mechanical knowledge needed to create it, there must have been an industry - trade of some kind, producing devices of some kinds, of which this was probably the most advanced example. It’s intriguing to think of what these craftsmen could have been making in their regular business.
@@PRH123 not necessarily, it could have been made by just one person over several years or decades or a small group of specialized craftsmen and only few were made. You have to remember the boat it was on, it was full of valuables that exceeded the normal merchant or statesman, could have even been one of a kind or maybe 5 of a kind. We just don’t know. I’m more interested in the identity of who owned that ship and why they had all of that aboard. Were they fleeing war? There’s a reason that mechanism was on board with everything else, not to mention it’s utility aboard a ship. One must have had to be very wealthy to afford such a thing.
That means there were more inventions than just this. Some before as well. They didn't just come up with that on first try
Thank you Anton for all that you do.
It’s nice someone like you covers this device!!!
I remember when it was first rediscovered from storage, the non-Greek experts loudly insisted it was not an Astrolabe. Now we know it was and more, incidentally it is not Ancient Greek but Hellenistic. Ancient Greece is pre sixth century (Menelaus and Troy), the fifth century is referred to as Classical period, Athens and Sparta etc.
Wonder how many of Anton's subscribers also watch Clickspring?
I do.
Never heard of it
I do
@@lucasjohansson4339 RUclips channel. Check it out.
Not yet
Thanks again for bringing more understanding to interesting subjects Stay wonderful Anton
Thank you Anton for all your hard work.
you nailed the greek pronunciations, well done! it most certainly isn't always the easiest language for many (myself included lol).
imagine all the forgotten genius there was in the past history of mankind, all those individuals didn't even had access to education or working tools like we have today and yet they still managed to achieve great things. Incredible,
Problem with your statement - the ancient Greeks did have access to education, and they DID have tools.
@@muninrob "forgotten genius there was in the past history of mankind" let that sink in your mind first
@@JRM92B "all those individuals didn't even had access to education or working tools like we have today"
So you are claiming that writing, geometry, astronomy, and stone carving are instinctive actions, and don't require tools or education?
Let how stupid that idea is sink into your mind for a minute or two - then rephrase so that what you say matches what you mean.
@@muninrob dude, you're such a waste of time, just don't
@@muninrob exactly. Aincient people weren’t stupid, they were aincient
Oooh anton covering ancient archaeological discoveries, I love it!
Welcome back Anton. It is nice to hear from you again.
If it was found on a shipwreck isn’t it reasonable to suggest that it was some sort of celestial navigation device?
Or being stolen and was sank. Or sanked because of weights. That Library was destroyed n looted . It's one or the other
The titanic still has dinnerware in it. That doesn't mean they were meant for seafood. Things are often found were they were never meant to be. That's how they get lost for so long. We have more shipwrecks from.the time, but just this 1 device.
@@ericmueller6836 the Titanic had dinnerware because they ate dinner on the ship.
The information the device provides is more than would be needed for navigation. Harvest and eclipse predictions would not aid in navigation but would be important for societies. A device like this would likely have been the property of rulers and governments.
That's awesome, intricate work for its age.
Yes
Another wonderful video by a truly wonderful person! Thanks again, Anton!
As always, your contribution is so much appreciated. I hope life has settled a bit, and health is with you and your family. Thank you very much.
Wow! What an amazing bit of hardware. I can't wait for someone to port Doom to this.
_port Doom"?_
Skyrim too!
Quake is better...!
if this was the first prototype then imagine how much technology and science stuck by its demise
Thank you, Anton, for all you do. You are truly a wonderful person
3:00 EXTREMELY WELL DONE.
This beautiful picture followed by the beautiful drawing of the ruin in its glory days. Marvelous work, Anton. Few would think to do it. And most of those would crow.
Thank you for mentioning this. More than 100 years for modern scientists to unravel this piece of engineering and knowledge of astronomy proves how advanced these ancient people were compared to present. 😮😮😊😊
A big problem is that the original find is in a corroded mass of metal and other detritus.
Serious sensors had to be pointed at it to find it's internals.
More stuff like this please Anton!!!
Simply amazing and humbling.
Woo, that means more Clickspring videos!
My thought on this is that it should be attributed to the Genius of Archimedes. But, of course this is just my opinion. Thank you very much for bringing this and the new progress about it back into the light Anton. Also it proves beyond a shadow that our Ancient Ancestors weren't Primitive Savages, also described as Club wielding morons by "academia" but in fact were at least as advanced as we are today, if not even, more likely than not, more so. All the Items in the category alongside the Antikythera Mechanism show/prove this fact.
LHC
This is such a good example of the amount of knowledge we have now, and the strings of knowledge we have lost.
Wonderful as always anton. Thank you. 😊
We don't know if it's 2200 years old, it was lost 2200 years ago. It might have been in that library or around for another thousand years
Thousand year year old bronze gears would show a lot more wear.
@@CorwynGC Maybe, but I have my Great, Great Grandpa’s 136 year old, Elgin pocket watch, which still works, and doesn’t have any visibly apparent wear on the internals, in spite of him using it almost daily for the entirety of his career, working for the railroad. Also, how can you even tell exactly how much prior wear the mechanism had, before it sat at the bottom of a sea, for a couple of millennia?
@@WizardClipAudio Your grandfather's Elgin is 1) tiny, 2) jewelled, 3) has fewer gears, 4) steel in high wear components, 5) hard to notice wear, 6) 1 tenth as old as 1000 years.
@@CorwynGC 7)?,….. how can you determine how much wear or not was on the gears of a mechanism prior to being submerged beneath the sea for 2 millennia?
@@CorwynGC Like, you made the claim. How can you determine, without a shadow of a doubt, that those stripped and broken sprocket teeth occurred after being submerged in the sea?
It would be interesting if an experiment were done where people try to replicate it using only materials and technology from the time when it was probably made.
Did you not see all the comments about Clickspring? Or was that sarcasm?
Yes yes updated news on the first ANALOG computer,, guys the Antikythera mechanism is Astounding and I'm obsessed over this mechanism. I didn't think we would ever learn anything new.
Thanks Anton
This mechanism is sooooo fascinating! What a wonderful discovery.
This isn’t Clickspring
hahaha, i was excited too lol. anton is also good though as daily fix, but clickspring hits different
The classical world is so interesting. They were discovering that government was not just a protection racket but they hadn't thought in terms of universal rights. They had the knowledge to invent new technologies but they didn't want them because they had slaves. But their writers, poets and philosophers were as good as ours.
This is the most thorough explanation I've heard on the A mechanism and so very interesting. I wonder if the mechanism could be one of many in various stages of development. Maybe we might find a few more that are either less or more advanced than this one. Thank you, Anton, this is a great video!
Considering how sophisticated this device is, doubtless there were multiple earlier versions, probably developed over several centuries.
I like when you make videos like this. Not the typical space or science topics
Greece and Rome had all the basic technology necessary to trigger an Industrial Revolution 2000 years ago. BUT, without any free enterprise, there was zero impetus or motivation to develop it further. They had water wheels, clockworks of incredible complexity, primitive steam engines, and many other technologies that some innovator who know he could make a profit on would have taken further.
Considering our most advanced technological leaps happened in just 200 years, and the human race has been around for approximately 300,000 years, it's foolish to think ancient cultures lacked the capability and potential to understand things we have just recently discovered.
I just finished the series Dark. Thanks for the recommendation. I enjoyed it very much.
I watch a channel called clickspring he makes all the tools used in the progect using original techniques he makes a drill metal files and over tools makes you realise the level of technical ability for the time
Clickspring!!! When I think of the dark ages, I think it probably means that whoever made this machine didn’t or couldn’t pass this knowledge to the masses
I've always felt that we're thinking about the purpose of this mechanism backwards. I don't think it was used to predict the date of a future astronomical event, I think it was used to derive the date relative to known future astronomical events. In other words, I suppose it was more useful to say "I'll meet you 42 days after the eclipse" than it was to say “the eclipse will be in 42 days" back then.
The former purpose gives a much more reasonable premise for why this device exists in the first place. It would be useful for arranging meetings between different dignitaries, or meeting up with another trade ship, or planning the day of a naval attack so long as every party has access to similarly capable devices.
While the latter purpose means that the device must have been little more than a novelty or something used to help the user trick people into believing that they could communicate with the gods.
If this theory is correct, we should expect to find references to devices like these between important military and diplomatic persons (we do) and we should also expect to find another device like this in future archaeological discoveries.
Yebbut ... wouldn't you need to know an eclipse was coming and when it would be first?
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle yes, but before you could make this device, you'd probably already know about all these events in advance and/or have a more rudimentary way of calculating them.
Think of it like a digital calculator. We don't think that without a digital calculator that there would be no way for our society to "predict" the value of 42x42x42x42. We know that it could be computed by hand or with a more rudimentary device. A digital calculator only enables its users to do so very quickly and without learning the manual method.
Bro, there were regularly repeating astronomical events that were used by everyone to schedule future events, that didn't require an insanely complicated device, didn't even require writing, just the ability to count their passing, they're called the Sun and the Moon! What a banana hypothesis.
@@msytdc1577 bro, do you check the date on your smartphone or count sunrises?
@@GabeSullice Well, you see, as a small child I memorized the whopping twelve months and the order they were in, along with the seven days of the week, and learned how to count higher than ten. My apologies, I didn't know you were so differently abled and that calendar technology only came into being with the iPhone for you, I'm glad such assistive devices are so commonplace now.
Hello, wonderful Anton. Thank you for being you. 🦋
Great video, Anton...👍
Antikythera mechanism isn't that amazing. I'd expect there were many other "surprising" curios we have no idea about. Greek and roman statues were essentially unparalleled anatomically and in terms of realism until the renaissance. Obviously these cultures possessed individuals in other domains who could similarly push the limits of human ingenuity and perception. I mean there's nothing comparable to colosseum/aqueducts/bridges/lighthouses/palaces etc in terms of engineering until a thousand years later. These guys were way ahead in many domains....
Thank you for the only thoughtful comment I've seen. Alexandrian Greeks had already learned to harness steam power, though they apparently only used it for novelty entertainments, just like the Chinese with fireworks.
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When I see things like this and other relics and structures from lost civilizations in Egypt, South America etc it makes me wonder if human evolution went from super intelligent to kinda stupid and then back to intelligent.
Although I think we could be on a downward trend again going off the world today.
I agree, we seem to be on the downward spiral. The older Native American arrowheads had much better quality arrowheads and stone work while the later ones aren't as well done. I've often wondered why there seems to be swings of advancement and then collapses that follow.
From super intelligent to stupid to super intelligent and stupid at the same time
We are really intelligent? Debatable...
@@jc_jdm haha yes, quantum evolution
Hello wonderful Anton 😉✋🏼
Once again pointing our attention to one of the marvels of humankind - our own history 😅
Thank You so much 🙏🏼
and, yes - Love to y'all !
Stay wonderful ! 🖖🏼
A very interesting topic, thanks Anton. 👍🏻
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Much Love Anton! Just wanted to suggest that it would be cool if you had a end of the week quiz based on the videos you posted. 😁
Excellent Reporting 👍
Incredible, Anton. I am so in awe of your rigorous command of the research. And, of course, in awe of the level of technology that was fermenting a few thousand years than what might have been assumed by historians. It makes me wonder what else has been lost, and might be learned by more intensive exploration of shipwrecks and more generously funded archeologic excavations.
Really interesting - I'll have to make an episode on the mechanism eventually!
The more we learn about the past the more Im astonished. Another great video
This is an amazing thing, glad you talked about it
Makes me wonder what else is lost. Fascinating, thank you 👍🏻👍🏻
Was thinking about this mechanism today and now you surprise me with this video :)
I like to imagine that the inventor's intended purpose for the Antikythara Mechanism was obfuscated as an astronomical calculator, because that was the means they had to bring it to fruition.
Although I was aware of the Antikythera Mechanism, thank you for shedding more light on it. I would like to see more about ancient advanced devices like this. I realize other devices would most likely be outside the scope of your channel. But , thanks anyway.
I watched(and love, and OWN) the U.S. Public Television series "Nova" episode on this. Fascinating, so glad to learn new secrets on it.
Fantastic video Anton
not just a space or science video but a mix of history and science and space. my inner nerd is glowing rn \\
Nova PBS 2013 had an outstanding documentary on the Antikythera Mechanism, showing how people deciphered what the gears meant and how they predicted eclipses. It persuasively attributes the inventor to Archimedes based on the Greek alphabet.
Started watching that series Dark on Netflix thanks to you Anton
And this is giving me the same feeling from the show
Thanks for the info!
Glad your still with us you bright star.
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