I agree with you Rich, I hate the attached crank. But the built-in crank is a new animal, superior above all other methods. When I first got hunting with a crossbow back in 2015, there was an advantage with wider, slower crossbows. I could pull back the bow without ropes or cranks. It was fast and easy, but discharging the arrow after an unsuccessful hunt is the drawback. Today, the built in crank is a game changer, mainly because of decocking, speed, and convenience. I hunt with the R26. Two years ago I shot a doe, two fawns were still eating the corn. I was able to slowly, and quietly crank back the bow and put in another arrow without the fawns knowing. Another doe came in 10 minutes later and shot her too. No way I could've worked that out with any other style of cocking. Rich, you will quickly become a built in crank guy. I have used all different types of crossbows and cocking methods, but to me, the built in crank from Ravin is superior.
Doc told me no more shotgun recoil and no lifting/pulling more than 50lbs. I’ve never had an issue with rope cocking and thought it was better than the add on cranks. Since the health news I’m stuck using a crank. The built in options like your Ravin and my Tenpoint are a blessing, work smooth and something I can run from a stand/saddle without being cumbersome. It’s such a step forward from the add on units that insert into the stock.
I'm 74 and a crank is a life saver when cocking my crossbow. I shoot a Ravin R 10 and it is "perfect for me" I did order an extra crank from the Ravin website right off the bat so as to have a backup crank🙂. I will say a few years ago I shot a crossbow with a rope cocking devise. When preparing to cock the bow with the rope about half way cocked the bow slipped off the stirrup and I walked around with a fat lip for a a couple of days because the entire crossbow sprang up and hit me in the mouth. It was my fault but I changed to the R 10 with a crank system.
I hunt with a Tenpoint that has a crank. I travel a whole day to hunt in a fairly remote area. I learned the hard way to always bring a spare crank in my duffel. Very easy to drop it in the woods.
I enjoy your you tube channel. I searched for a way to decocking a crossbow without discharging a bolt into a target after my hunt. My search lead to Ravin. I own a R26 and am very happy with it. You asked for other reasons for using the crank, this is my reason. Keep up the good work! Todd
Hunting scenario first is best ... I can relate to this by experience with my muzzle loader. Loose powder compared pre-measured tablets. Comes back to one good 1st shot. Take your time and try your best. And if all that fails your backyard training will potentially help with the follow up.
I have a crank on my Aculeus 460, what I really like it for is decocking the crossbow. No more carrying a decocking arrow. Something about shooting a carbon arrow in the ground over and over again doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
I'm glad you brought up the issue of height! I've never been able to string cock my crossbow. I had to get my 6'1" husband to do it, but he's disabled with a back injury, and isn't able to help very often.
I upgraded to a crank crossbow this year (Tenpoint Siege 425). It's the only crank crossbow I have experience with, so take this for what it's worth. This crank is quieter than my old rope cocker. I had to cover my cocking sled handles with stealth strips to keep them from clanking together and making noise when I took it out of my pocket and got it ready to cock. And, I can recock the crossbow using the crank from within the stand, something I could never do with my rope cocker while in the stand. Missed an opportunity at a buck a few years back right after I shot a doe because I couldn't recrank the crossbow. So there's that. That said, a rope cocker is simpler mechanically. My Tenpoint stows the crank handle in the stock, but after hunting for the first time this past weekend (we have a 3-day velvet season in late August), the crank kept sliding out while rubbing up against me in the tree, and had I not been paying attention, I feel like it would have fallen out completely. I have a spare in my pack, which I felt compelled to buy after hearing others complain about that. But that's a design flaw. The greatest advantage to a crank, IMO, is being able to de-cock the crossbow silently instead of having to use a discharge arrow. All that said, there are pros and cons to each method.
I got into built in cranks on crossbows after getting my climbing tree stand. I didn’t feel that stable in the climbing stand and didn’t feel comfortable using a rope cocker in my climber. I preferred having both feet flat on the climbing platform at “all times”.
I always cocked my CB on the ground and then went up the tree in my climber. When I got situated I pulled the CB up with a rope and then put my bolt in the CB.
I prefer the crank because it draws back the string to the same spot everytime. Sometimes with a rope cocker one can pull the string slightly one way or the other and also one can pull the string up from the rail as your drawing back which can damage the cams and axles causing limbs to break. I have a reverse draw and pulling the string up from the rail when drawing back the bow has broken my limbs before. I've since went to the crank.
Just my 2 cents: I have the Tenpoint TX440, and will be ordering a spare crank to keep in my pack. But in a pinch, a 1/4 inch drive ratchet can be a life saver. I would suggest a longer one to clear the stock, and also act as a force multiplier. Wouldn't suggest doing it all the time; but it can absolutely save your bacon if you happen to have a small tool set in your truck/car.
Well I wasn’t planning on changing my crossbow setup this year but I was finishing up shooting this past Friday morning and on the last shot one of my limbs split so it’s 2 weeks before the season opens here in NC ….. so I ordered the Swat X1 Saturday morning and hopefully it will arrive in time….. really appreciate all your videos of all the different crossbows on the market.Looking forward to the X1 . Good luck this season
I have and like both crank and pull rope crossbows. I've never had a problem hand drawing and cocking any of mine. The crank is nice if you are in positions that would prevent you from easily self cocking in a blind or tree stand without a lot of extra room to spare because a branch is in your way or whatever. If for some reason you would need to loan a crossbow to someone of smaller stature or with much less physical strength you also have something to give them to use. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
first time cross bow hunter 2023.. r10 owner, i push in the release button to crank it quietly. make sure if you do decock it have a firm grip on the handle, that sucker went flying out of my hand. once it landed i seen it was bent and fixed it in my vice. lessen learned.
I have a Tenpoint Viper S400 with a crank and I love it!! I was so tired of breaking or losing decocking bolts 😢 I hunt a lot and it got old having to shoot it at lunch and dark.. plus save wear and tear on cables and strings.
Looking good Esq. Thank you for all that you do for all of us crossbow nuts! The best of the best on RUclips and no one comes close. You are always welcome in Maine! Jim, you are a crank yanker, not a rope cocker but a string rocker!
I'm certainly not ready for CBAM to be over, I've been loving the videos! I can see how a crank would come in real handy if you're in a small tree stand/saddle.
Thank you for all you do for us crossbow nuts. I started using a Barnett BCX with no crank and poped a bicep. Black and blue for a month. Then I bought a Wicked Ridge M-370 with a silent crank. Love this Xbow and the crank has a storage place on the stock. Shot a nice buck last year with it. At 72 years old now, I will always be cranky! Just wait Rich for your joints to go. I have had a hip and a knee replaced, but I am still walking the woods using tree stands and ground blinds. Good luck to you this season! Hope you can find some time to hunt.
I have a crank for my excal micros, i don't really use it much since I've built up enough strength to use the rope cocker. The crank is nice for uncocking or pulling back the strining aid to change out the string.
I've always liked the ability to rope cock a crossbow but I will say, also having a detachable cranking device has come in handy depending on different stand locations and tree stands where I can't get a really good grip on the foot stirrup and I worry about not getting a smooth draw with a rope cocker. Owning TenPoint previously, I was always concerned with something going wrong with the built in crank and not having a way to cock the bow but I think the future will be all cranking crossbows as speed increases.
The only time I believe a crank would come in handy is reloading in some tree stands where pulling the string back is pretty unwieldy. But you rarely need a second shot when bow hunting. But it has happened to me.
my new vital x was too rough to rope cock last summer when i got it, so immediately ordered the ki crank and have never looked back. takes a little forthought and practice to get the hang of it, but alot easier on the back and torso at my 5'9" height! you still have to be careful with various body parts/safety. tangled lines are about the worst of it.....just go slow and pay attention to keeping it squared away and safe.
I went with the cock/decocking Tenpoint because due to suffering sudden cardiac arrest last December, I now have an implanted cardiac defibrillator. I had to give up a standard bow due to the risk of dislodging or breaking the leads in my chest. The internal crank is allowing me to enjoy archery season, and still get out there and hunt!
I feel your pain with the missing crank. In my case my youngest ran off with it and squirreled it away in some damn place or another, and he did it the night before I was leaving for a hunt. Thankfully with the TenPoints you can just use use a regular ratchet and it works just as well. Definitely not as convenient, but it works if you're in a pinch.
I bought the 10 last year. Never got used to shooting it because I sighted it in and went hunting. I have a super long draw length so I have to get used to pulling that thing into me because it’s small and it’s probably one of the biggest Ravins. I like being able to crank it down instead of shooting it after each night after hunting. I also like being able to hold the button in while cranking so it’s completely silent. I passed up the higher models just because they ALL had horrible reviews of them “blowing up” while hunting…just from sitting. The R10 I was told by several Ravin custom service reps last year it was the one…and the only one to buy out of all their models offered. I’ll be anxious to see how the 29 does for you long term.
I bought my first crossbow this year a Centerpoint Wrath 430x and it came with a crank and a rope but after using the crank about 4 times I tried the rope and its not really any harder but it is definitely faster.This is the first time hunting with a crossbow I have hunted with a compound bow for 25 years and I have no reason I cant hunt with the compound bow I just wanted to try something different.
I’m 24 and I have a lot of years left in me before I need a built in crank system, I’m currently using the centerpoint sinister 430 which actually does get 430 fps with a 400 grain bolt. ( I was very surprised as my history with centerpoint has been dodgy ) but I like that fact that it has a semi built in crank that i can also just not use and also pull with a rope. the crank is bulky and slow but I love not having to stand up everytime while taking shots in prone positions I can just use the crank load a bolt and shoot no moving, I only say this because that is how I like to hunt turkey, I bring a nice padded shooting mat out with me a few bolts, all the rest of the essentials, calls, decoys and such and just wait for them to come in.
Age isn't the only factor. A sprained wrist/ elbow from a simple slip-n-fall could affect someone's ability to cock a crossbow for an extended amount of time.
I have a couple of smaller blinds that you just can't stand up in, and the crank on the sub1 does the trick . They are even too small to shoot the Mathews bow out of.
I bought a crank to hopefully improve consistency which might translate to accuracy. I was always concerned pulling inconsistently would result in lower accuracy. I don't want to waste time testing my theory but the crank is something I can always control.
Many crossbows need a crank they are such a high draw weight you can’t rope cock them. We I mean there was a time when you could cock them with your feet and arms can’t really do that anymore either. Once you get past that 225 draw weight rope cocking is hard. 300 plus draw now you need a crank. And most are built in now too which is helpful. They even got places to put the handle so it’s all right there on the bow. I am not a fan of cranks but I acknowledge that any modern crossbow now will have them. Especially of the excalibur line.
To crank or not to crank that is the question the Big Bamboo is a 10-point has cranking capability I don't have a crank and I'm 64 but as long as you're shooting it's all good hail Bungie
I had a crank when I had the Scorpyd Death Stalker. It was ok and the main reason I had it was because you could decock with it and I really liked that feature. Now my X1 has a crank but I've never even taken it out of the box. My only complaint with the crank is it takes alot of time between shots when you're practicing
I'm 62 and the back is not what it use to be so I'm becoming a big fan of the crank LOL Currently shooting the Wicked Ridge Fury 410.....really like that crossbow.
I like the crank on my viper 430 it just saves time I don't have to get in my back pack to get the rope out if I need a follow up shot.Just release the trigger box and slide it down and I can decock it. But my swat x1 rope cocking it is way faster then there crank system
Im a 5'3" man. I have plenty of strength to use the rope cocker but im just not frieakin tall enough. Id much rather use the rope cocker but i dont think i have a choice. If someone has any suggestions please comment. Im oretty sure a crank is my only option though.
The only thing that scared me away from a crank is if you ever had to recook it in your stand and the deer is close by, he would walk way or run away by the time it takes you to crank it up . Just have to make sure that your 1st shot is dead on and you don’t need a 2nd shot.
I got a crossbow with a crank this past year because I like wait and cock it once I'm up in my climber or tree stand and it's about impossible to rope cock it safely once you're up in the tree. But I agree, it's the future of crossbows and maybe electric ones too! LOL!
I rope cock all 4 of my bows but the X1 has a nice crank also. I can see that coming in handy if you need to cock the bow for a follow up or second shot in a tree stand or a climber.
I've got a question guys.. If a crossbow (I have a Ravin R5x) is stored for the long term, de-cocked obviously but still stringed (therefore some tension on those strings), how long can it be stored? Assuming that it is stored indoors in a dry place with no extremes in temperature. Do the strings eventually stretch? Do the arms weaken? Thanks, from England.
Are you sure your buddy isn't related to the 34 year old kid that is my assistant and helper at work? He's a klepto too and always snatches my tools. Lol If I can't find something I usually go start searching around his room and in his toolboxes. More chances than not it usually reappears and I get it back. 😄
My feelings are almost exactly the same as yours except for one problem. I guess I’m gonna have to switch to a crack system 67 years old handicap. I’m good rope cock maybe 34 times really a hard time citing a man it’s almost the same reason I went to a crossbow. I had a hard time at first time. I had a hard time going from my recurve to my compound then I had a hard time from going from the compound to the crossbow today I shot a wicked ridge with a building crank, but what scares me is the problem you had today being out in the woods, and then I’m stranded if I lose the crank But when I went to the shoot this past weekend, I couldn’t shoot because I could draw my back but times are changing. I’m not switching this year anymore for Hunting but I’m starting to look for one with the billboard cranking system.
The joke I make in response to why I needed a crank for my Bear X Trek "I'm not too short! They made the crossbow too long!" That is literally the reason. I can rope cock it but by the time my arms are at the max around my ears, I am 2 inches short of the locking position. :P At least it means my mom can use it too if she ever wants to try.
I don’t like cranks. I don’t like Ravin. I don’t like fancy scopes or fancy mechanics. I have been looking for a new xbow for a month. New offerings are overpriced and over complicated. I almost bought the Sub1 until repair guy tells me he replaces cams frequently. Apparently the string loops through the cam with a 90 degree turn. That makes s a bad design for 2k$. Ravin and 10pt have must crank systems, moving trigger housing, special nocks, overpriced….no thanks. I ultimately landed on Excalibur and I am very happy so far. Light, compact, rope or crank, durable, simple, well-priced. Its for my wife, but i’m pretty sure i will be buying another one to replace my Barnett. What happened with the Scorpyd? What happened with the Swat? Why so many purchases? If these others xbows suck you should tell us. Like the videos. ;)
Have to have multiple crossbows setup for different purposes. Also you need backups so when something breaks or needs new strings/cables you aren't out of the game by simply grabbing another from your collection. In addition if you have someone who wants to tag along you have loaners to hand off to them.
@@JohnDoeEagle1 What different purposes? Do you use one as a hammer? I only shoot stuff with mine. I’m just kidding. I guess you might want a red dot only set up. Or a super light set up for stalking. IDK. I have 3 now and i want another one. But i want his opinion and experience on these other bows that i almost bought just bc he said they were good. And viola, another new one.
@@verumsui7646 You can't use the same setup for deer, rabbits, squirrels and groundhogs. Also some shots are close in while others are further away. The William Tell Archery Mini Striker mini crossbows and Ballista Bat mini crossbows have the whole rabbit and squirrel thing wrapped up nearly exclusively.
I Ravin (so far) and fancy scopes (the way of the future) and fancy mechanics (also the way of the future). I also love the SWAT X1 and still have the Scorpyd. If you follow Death by Bunjie you should know that I am not bashful whatsoever about giving you my opinion when there's something I don't like. I don't like firenocks or fixed blades. Not a big fan of outdated equipment either although I will still use it if it has the fancy scope. 😂 oh, and a heavy enough Arrow to make my Swahackers work!
My Barnett came without a crank. Surprise, nobody can rope cock it. $100 extra because the Barnett I bought only has a rope sled cocker. Major fail by Barnett.
ohhhhhh look at me I am tall and can rope cock even with bad shoulders. LOL just kidding. There are more steps to a crank but since I hve to use one I just live with it. I don't like the TenPoint storage for the crank because it can come out but not needing to shoot it to uncock is the biggest advnatage. Looking forward to the video on the Ravin R29.
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Cranks are perfect for in treestands especially if you shoot and miss and have to recock in the stand
Luv my crank after back surgery it keeps me in the woods with my crossbow
Cranks are a natural component in the future of crossbows.
I agree with you Rich, I hate the attached crank. But the built-in crank is a new animal, superior above all other methods. When I first got hunting with a crossbow back in 2015, there was an advantage with wider, slower crossbows. I could pull back the bow without ropes or cranks. It was fast and easy, but discharging the arrow after an unsuccessful hunt is the drawback. Today, the built in crank is a game changer, mainly because of decocking, speed, and convenience. I hunt with the R26. Two years ago I shot a doe, two fawns were still eating the corn. I was able to slowly, and quietly crank back the bow and put in another arrow without the fawns knowing. Another doe came in 10 minutes later and shot her too. No way I could've worked that out with any other style of cocking. Rich, you will quickly become a built in crank guy. I have used all different types of crossbows and cocking methods, but to me, the built in crank from Ravin is superior.
Time will tell for me but at first blush I agree with you
Doc told me no more shotgun recoil and no lifting/pulling more than 50lbs. I’ve never had an issue with rope cocking and thought it was better than the add on cranks. Since the health news I’m stuck using a crank. The built in options like your Ravin and my Tenpoint are a blessing, work smooth and something I can run from a stand/saddle without being cumbersome. It’s such a step forward from the add on units that insert into the stock.
I'm 74 and a crank is a life saver when cocking my crossbow. I shoot a Ravin R 10 and it is "perfect for me" I did order an extra crank from the Ravin website right off the bat so as to have a backup crank🙂. I will say a few years ago I shot a crossbow with a rope cocking devise. When preparing to cock the bow with the rope about half way cocked the bow slipped off the stirrup and I walked around with a fat lip for a a couple of days because the entire crossbow sprang up and hit me in the mouth. It was my fault but I changed to the R 10 with a crank system.
I hunt with a Tenpoint that has a crank. I travel a whole day to hunt in a fairly remote area. I learned the hard way to always bring a spare crank in my duffel. Very easy to drop it in the woods.
Spare on order, it's a good plan
I enjoy your you tube channel. I searched for a way to decocking a crossbow without discharging a bolt into a target after my hunt. My search lead to Ravin. I own a R26 and am very happy with it. You asked for other reasons for using the crank, this is my reason. Keep up the good work! Todd
Hunting scenario first is best ...
I can relate to this by experience with my muzzle loader. Loose powder compared pre-measured tablets.
Comes back to one good 1st shot.
Take your time and try your best. And if all that fails your backyard training will potentially help with the follow up.
I have a crank on my Aculeus 460, what I really like it for is decocking the crossbow. No more carrying a decocking arrow. Something about shooting a carbon arrow in the ground over and over again doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
That is 100% a good reason for a crank
I'm glad you brought up the issue of height! I've never been able to string cock my crossbow. I had to get my 6'1" husband to do it, but he's disabled with a back injury, and isn't able to help very often.
I have a ten point viper s400. I love the decocking with the crank. No more destroying bolts discharging the crossbow.
I upgraded to a crank crossbow this year (Tenpoint Siege 425). It's the only crank crossbow I have experience with, so take this for what it's worth. This crank is quieter than my old rope cocker. I had to cover my cocking sled handles with stealth strips to keep them from clanking together and making noise when I took it out of my pocket and got it ready to cock. And, I can recock the crossbow using the crank from within the stand, something I could never do with my rope cocker while in the stand. Missed an opportunity at a buck a few years back right after I shot a doe because I couldn't recrank the crossbow. So there's that. That said, a rope cocker is simpler mechanically. My Tenpoint stows the crank handle in the stock, but after hunting for the first time this past weekend (we have a 3-day velvet season in late August), the crank kept sliding out while rubbing up against me in the tree, and had I not been paying attention, I feel like it would have fallen out completely. I have a spare in my pack, which I felt compelled to buy after hearing others complain about that. But that's a design flaw. The greatest advantage to a crank, IMO, is being able to de-cock the crossbow silently instead of having to use a discharge arrow. All that said, there are pros and cons to each method.
Thanks for this, interesting point about the sound also I never thought about that
I got into built in cranks on crossbows after getting my climbing tree stand. I didn’t feel that stable in the climbing stand and didn’t feel comfortable using a rope cocker in my climber. I preferred having both feet flat on the climbing platform at “all times”.
I always cocked my CB on the ground and then went up the tree in my climber. When I got situated I pulled the CB up with a rope and then put my bolt in the CB.
I prefer the crank because it draws back the string to the same spot everytime. Sometimes with a rope cocker one can pull the string slightly one way or the other and also one can pull the string up from the rail as your drawing back which can damage the cams and axles causing limbs to break. I have a reverse draw and pulling the string up from the rail when drawing back the bow has broken my limbs before. I've since went to the crank.
It was a good one thank you very much. Best of luck to all this hunting season.
Just my 2 cents: I have the Tenpoint TX440, and will be ordering a spare crank to keep in my pack.
But in a pinch, a 1/4 inch drive ratchet can be a life saver.
I would suggest a longer one to clear the stock, and also act as a force multiplier.
Wouldn't suggest doing it all the time; but it can absolutely save your bacon if you happen to have a small tool set in your truck/car.
I can see the crank drawing the string more accurately every time. From what I’ve seen the Ravens are very accurate especially at long range.
That's what I'm thinking too we shall see
That’s a slick looking setup, Rich!👍. Finally got my Swat X1 sighted in. Ready for opening day!
Oh yeah! Good luck!
Well I wasn’t planning on changing my crossbow setup this year but I was finishing up shooting this past Friday morning and on the last shot one of my limbs split so it’s 2 weeks before the season opens here in NC ….. so I ordered the Swat X1 Saturday morning and hopefully it will arrive in time….. really appreciate all your videos of all the different crossbows on the market.Looking forward to the X1 . Good luck this season
@@JamesOutdoors-ze5bp love the SWAT X1
I have and like both crank and pull rope crossbows. I've never had a problem hand drawing and cocking any of mine. The crank is nice if you are in positions that would prevent you from easily self cocking in a blind or tree stand without a lot of extra room to spare because a branch is in your way or whatever. If for some reason you would need to loan a crossbow to someone of smaller stature or with much less physical strength you also have something to give them to use. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
first time cross bow hunter 2023.. r10 owner, i push in the release button to crank it quietly. make sure if you do decock it have a firm grip on the handle, that sucker went flying out of my hand. once it landed i seen it was bent and fixed it in my vice. lessen learned.
I have a Tenpoint Viper S400 with a crank and I love it!! I was so tired of breaking or losing decocking bolts 😢 I hunt a lot and it got old having to shoot it at lunch and dark.. plus save wear and tear on cables and strings.
Looking good Esq. Thank you for all that you do for all of us crossbow nuts! The best of the best on RUclips and no one comes close. You are always welcome in Maine! Jim, you are a crank yanker, not a rope cocker but a string rocker!
Right on
I'm certainly not ready for CBAM to be over, I've been loving the videos!
I can see how a crank would come in real handy if you're in a small tree stand/saddle.
Good point
Thank you for all you do for us crossbow nuts. I started using a Barnett BCX with no crank and poped a bicep. Black and blue for a month. Then I bought a Wicked Ridge M-370 with a silent crank. Love this Xbow and the crank has a storage place on the stock. Shot a nice buck last year with it. At 72 years old now, I will always be cranky! Just wait Rich for your joints to go. I have had a hip and a knee replaced, but I am still walking the woods using tree stands and ground blinds. Good luck to you this season! Hope you can find some time to hunt.
Cranky 😆 love it
Rich, really looking forward to your review.
I have a crank for my excal micros, i don't really use it much since I've built up enough strength to use the rope cocker. The crank is nice for uncocking or pulling back the strining aid to change out the string.
I've always liked the ability to rope cock a crossbow but I will say, also having a detachable cranking device has come in handy depending on different stand locations and tree stands where I can't get a really good grip on the foot stirrup and I worry about not getting a smooth draw with a rope cocker. Owning TenPoint previously, I was always concerned with something going wrong with the built in crank and not having a way to cock the bow but I think the future will be all cranking crossbows as speed increases.
The only time I believe a crank would come in handy is reloading in some tree stands where pulling the string back is pretty unwieldy. But you rarely need a second shot when bow hunting. But it has happened to me.
I'm sure you will love the R29, great crossbow , I looked at one of those also but I went for the Tenpoint TRX 515 in the end .
Andy U.K
my new vital x was too rough to rope cock last summer when i got it, so immediately ordered the ki crank and have never looked back. takes a little forthought and practice to get the hang of it, but alot easier on the back and torso at my 5'9" height! you still have to be careful with various body parts/safety. tangled lines are about the worst of it.....just go slow and pay attention to keeping it squared away and safe.
I went with the cock/decocking Tenpoint because due to suffering sudden cardiac arrest last December, I now have an implanted cardiac defibrillator.
I had to give up a standard bow due to the risk of dislodging or breaking the leads in my chest.
The internal crank is allowing me to enjoy archery season, and still get out there and hunt!
I feel your pain with the missing crank. In my case my youngest ran off with it and squirreled it away in some damn place or another, and he did it the night before I was leaving for a hunt. Thankfully with the TenPoints you can just use use a regular ratchet and it works just as well. Definitely not as convenient, but it works if you're in a pinch.
I bought the 10 last year. Never got used to shooting it because I sighted it in and went hunting. I have a super long draw length so I have to get used to pulling that thing into me because it’s small and it’s probably one of the biggest Ravins. I like being able to crank it down instead of shooting it after each night after hunting. I also like being able to hold the button in while cranking so it’s completely silent. I passed up the higher models just because they ALL had horrible reviews of them “blowing up” while hunting…just from sitting. The R10 I was told by several Ravin custom service reps last year it was the one…and the only one to buy out of all their models offered. I’ll be anxious to see how the 29 does for you long term.
Great video 👍
I bought my first crossbow this year a Centerpoint Wrath 430x and it came with a crank and a rope but after using the crank about 4 times I tried the rope and its not really any harder but it is definitely faster.This is the first time hunting with a crossbow I have hunted with a compound bow for 25 years and I have no reason I cant hunt with the compound bow I just wanted to try something different.
I’m 24 and I have a lot of years left in me before I need a built in crank system, I’m currently using the centerpoint sinister 430 which actually does get 430 fps with a 400 grain bolt. ( I was very surprised as my history with centerpoint has been dodgy ) but I like that fact that it has a semi built in crank that i can also just not use and also pull with a rope. the crank is bulky and slow but I love not having to stand up everytime while taking shots in prone positions I can just use the crank load a bolt and shoot no moving, I only say this because that is how I like to hunt turkey, I bring a nice padded shooting mat out with me a few bolts, all the rest of the essentials, calls, decoys and such and just wait for them to come in.
That's a sweet setup for sure
Age isn't the only factor. A sprained wrist/ elbow from a simple slip-n-fall could affect someone's ability to cock a crossbow for an extended amount of time.
I have a couple of smaller blinds that you just can't stand up in, and the crank on the sub1 does the trick . They are even too small to shoot the Mathews bow out of.
Interesting, I've been there and experienced the standing up problem cocking a crossbow in a blind that's for sure
I won't get cranky about you using a crank if your cranking doesn't scare my deer... Appreciate your channel all these years. Keep it up.
It's a deal 😆
I bought a crank to hopefully improve consistency which might translate to accuracy. I was always concerned pulling inconsistently would result in lower accuracy. I don't want to waste time testing my theory but the crank is something I can always control.
I love my crank on excalibur axe 340 quite as heck you will get faster with cranking the more you use it
🎯👍, nice crossbow, top of the line, can't wait to see you let the air out of some Maryland deer with it soon!! -W. Liggett
Right around the corner
Many crossbows need a crank they are such a high draw weight you can’t rope cock them. We I mean there was a time when you could cock them with your feet and arms can’t really do that anymore either. Once you get past that 225 draw weight rope cocking is hard.
300 plus draw now you need a crank. And most are built in now too which is helpful. They even got places to put the handle so it’s all right there on the bow. I am not a fan of cranks but I acknowledge that any modern crossbow now will have them. Especially of the excalibur line.
To crank or not to crank that is the question the Big Bamboo is a 10-point has cranking capability I don't have a crank and I'm 64 but as long as you're shooting it's all good hail Bungie
If you wait for Christmas maybe you can have Christmas with the Cranks
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The grey ghost is looking nice 👍🏻
I had a crank when I had the Scorpyd Death Stalker. It was ok and the main reason I had it was because you could decock with it and I really liked that feature. Now my X1 has a crank but I've never even taken it out of the box. My only complaint with the crank is it takes alot of time between shots when you're practicing
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I just got a 10 point tighten 400 that has a silent crank and I actually prefer that over the rope cocker
I'm 62 and the back is not what it use to be so I'm becoming a big fan of the crank LOL Currently shooting the Wicked Ridge Fury 410.....really like that crossbow.
3 out my 4 crossbows require cranks, they are nice especially when it comes to de-cocking after an unsuccessful hunt.
Can’t wait for the review
I like the crank because you can uncrank the crossbow after hunting
Looks just like mine.
Nice suit 👍 'slick'.
I like the crank on my viper 430 it just saves time I don't have to get in my back pack to get the rope out if I need a follow up shot.Just release the trigger box and slide it down and I can decock it. But my swat x1 rope cocking it is way faster then there crank system
A great point, they are not all the same
This is my first season with my new killer instinct swat and now I’m going to have to upgrade .
Lol that swat will get it done 💯
It should be the Bunjie “stable” of crossbows. Many horses in the stable now. Which one to take out for a ride today??? Hmmmm. 😊😊
Love it!
Im a 5'3" man. I have plenty of strength to use the rope cocker but im just not frieakin tall enough. Id much rather use the rope cocker but i dont think i have a choice. If someone has any suggestions please comment. Im oretty sure a crank is my only option though.
I 100% get that
The only thing that scared me away from a crank is if you ever had to recook it in your stand and the deer is close by, he would walk way or run away by the time it takes you to crank it up . Just have to make sure that your 1st shot is dead on and you don’t need a 2nd shot.
I got a crossbow with a crank this past year because I like wait and cock it once I'm up in my climber or tree stand and it's about impossible to rope cock it safely once you're up in the tree. But I agree, it's the future of crossbows and maybe electric ones too! LOL!
Good point
I have the crank only because I have scoliosis and it hurts to bend over
Hey Rich why did you choose raven over tenpoint and the others? Just curious. I love crossbow appreciation great job sir.
You will really like today's video LOL
@@Deathbybunjie let’s go!!!!! 🤣
I know and I never got to enjoy my favorite music album for said month I guess no my favorite tree stand😢
I rope cock all 4 of my bows but the X1 has a nice crank also. I can see that coming in handy if you need to cock the bow for a follow up or second shot in a tree stand or a climber.
I've got a question guys.. If a crossbow (I have a Ravin R5x) is stored for the long term, de-cocked obviously but still stringed (therefore some tension on those strings), how long can it be stored? Assuming that it is stored indoors in a dry place with no extremes in temperature. Do the strings eventually stretch? Do the arms weaken? Thanks, from England.
Sad crossbow appreciation is almost over 😢
Are you sure your buddy isn't related to the 34 year old kid that is my assistant and helper at work? He's a klepto too and always snatches my tools. Lol If I can't find something I usually go start searching around his room and in his toolboxes. More chances than not it usually reappears and I get it back. 😄
LOL but he did immediately tell me when he got home and unpacked and he shipped it to me right away LOL all good
My feelings are almost exactly the same as yours except for one problem. I guess I’m gonna have to switch to a crack system 67 years old handicap. I’m good rope cock maybe 34 times really a hard time citing a man it’s almost the same reason I went to a crossbow. I had a hard time at first time. I had a hard time going from my recurve to my compound then I had a hard time from going from the compound to the crossbow today I shot a wicked ridge with a building crank, but what scares me is the problem you had today being out in the woods, and then I’m stranded if I lose the crank But when I went to the shoot this past weekend, I couldn’t shoot because I could draw my back but times are changing. I’m not switching this year anymore for Hunting but I’m starting to look for one with the billboard cranking system.
Use your INFLUENCE with Lumenok to get them to develop a nock for the R-500. PLEASE!!!
Lol if only
But I hear that
You CRAVED
Yeah, I'll be 60 on January 2 2024
The joke I make in response to why I needed a crank for my Bear X Trek "I'm not too short! They made the crossbow too long!"
That is literally the reason. I can rope cock it but by the time my arms are at the max around my ears, I am 2 inches short of the locking position. :P At least it means my mom can use it too if she ever wants to try.
They made the crossbow too long 100% that's great
@@Deathbybunjie I’m 5”1’ so yes, I’m very short. 🤣
I bought a Mission XR just because you can rope cock it. And they are supposedly the best on strings.
It’s way easier to cock in my climbing stand with a crank cocker. That being said I still like just using the rope cocker.
A good point
Armory
Good one
Lol
I don’t like cranks. I don’t like Ravin. I don’t like fancy scopes or fancy mechanics.
I have been looking for a new xbow for a month. New offerings are overpriced and over complicated. I almost bought the Sub1 until repair guy tells me he replaces cams frequently. Apparently the string loops through the cam with a 90 degree turn. That makes s a bad design for 2k$. Ravin and 10pt have must crank systems, moving trigger housing, special nocks, overpriced….no thanks.
I ultimately landed on Excalibur and I am very happy so far. Light, compact, rope or crank, durable, simple, well-priced. Its for my wife, but i’m pretty sure i will be buying another one to replace my Barnett.
What happened with the Scorpyd? What happened with the Swat? Why so many purchases? If these others xbows suck you should tell us.
Like the videos. ;)
Have to have multiple crossbows setup for different purposes. Also you need backups so when something breaks or needs new strings/cables you aren't out of the game by simply grabbing another from your collection. In addition if you have someone who wants to tag along you have loaners to hand off to them.
@@JohnDoeEagle1 What different purposes? Do you use one as a hammer? I only shoot stuff with mine.
I’m just kidding. I guess you might want a red dot only set up. Or a super light set up for stalking. IDK. I have 3 now and i want another one.
But i want his opinion and experience on these other bows that i almost bought just bc he said they were good. And viola, another new one.
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You can't use the same setup for deer, rabbits, squirrels and groundhogs. Also some shots are close in while others are further away.
The William Tell Archery Mini Striker mini crossbows and Ballista Bat mini crossbows have the whole rabbit and squirrel thing wrapped up nearly exclusively.
I Ravin (so far) and fancy scopes (the way of the future) and fancy mechanics (also the way of the future). I also love the SWAT X1 and still have the Scorpyd. If you follow Death by Bunjie you should know that I am not bashful whatsoever about giving you my opinion when there's something I don't like. I don't like firenocks or fixed blades. Not a big fan of outdated equipment either although I will still use it if it has the fancy scope. 😂 oh, and a heavy enough Arrow to make my Swahackers work!
Rich, I want to know, did you and your wife have the same conversation that Harry Potter field of Midway USA had?
What conversation is that? LOL
@@Deathbybunjie Had something to do with women's shoes and guns, IIRC.😆
My Barnett came without a crank. Surprise, nobody can rope cock it. $100 extra because the Barnett I bought only has a rope sled cocker. Major fail by Barnett.
four crossbows is not enough i have six ....
Don't tempt me haha
ohhhhhh look at me I am tall and can rope cock even with bad shoulders. LOL just kidding. There are more steps to a crank but since I hve to use one I just live with it. I don't like the TenPoint storage for the crank because it can come out but not needing to shoot it to uncock is the biggest advnatage. Looking forward to the video on the Ravin R29.
🤣😆 I am looking forward to decocking
Have a the crank too slow not for me