Being an older hunter myself and being successful on a regular basis with the bow when I was younger I believe 90% is because I had the time to hunt and it was my passion. Woodsman ship is a part of it reading signs and knowing food sources but time in the tree was the key.
Love this conversation. You guys have the best content hands down. I have been hunting for 43 years and have learned so much since I started following you guys. I have had my best season by far this year. I have been playing checkers for years and am now playing chess. Can’t thank you enough! Bill from TN.
I stopped deer hunting years ago but still love hearing of it. I try to learn what I did wrong or could have done differently. There is a ton of information available now. I jokingly tell people I hunted the dumb bucks but it's true. I grossly underestimated how in tune with their home range deer are and that only grows sharper with age. A muture whitetail is one fine game animal and I congratulate all hunters that have taken them. We are so fortunate to have such an animal so widespread. Hunt safe and respectfully.
Feed and cams have ruined people on trying to learn it's become overwhelming and the guys that actually hunt and learn the skills are suffering due to technology while the lazy prosper
Been hunting for 53 years and to be a good hunter takes a lot of time in the woods, hunting lots of types of terrain, weather, seasons, etc. It takes boots on the ground. I use all the technology but that only gets me so far, after that it is scouting, attention to details, details that lead to decisions, learning the wind, picking THE spot, etc. I have killed a deer for 40 years straight, this year I shot my biggest bodied buck ever this fall, Nov 15, probably one of the oldest bucks I have shot. Pulled a tooth for F+G so I hope to find out. My advice to a young hunter is get out there in the woods, scout as much as you can, cover lots of ground, wear quiet clothing and learn how to shoot. Find a good hunting partner that is as passionate about it as you are. I hunt nothing but public land and primarily on the ground. Look for the nasty thick places that are really tough to hunt, the big boys will be there. Big deer are smart and you have to outsmart them, don't rely on luck. Know the spot is going to be the spot where you can kill him.
It's always good to hear someone around my age like Daniel talk about how we learned to deer hunt in clubs back in the 70's and 80's. There was always a couple of guys that took down monsters year after year. They were also the one's that spent the most time dedicated to becoming better woodsmen.
I think that is something that hunting has lost. Now we have all of these trail cameras and fancy equipment but our grandfathers and their fathers didn't have all of that. And I don't know about y'all. But for my grandfather's hunting was a necessity. That's how they got their meat for the holidays normally. And they didn't have all of that equipment. They just went hunting. My grandpa did not wear camouflage. He wore a red and black flannel jacket, a pair of jeans and some boots that were his work boots and he came home with a deer every year
I sent in a couple of the bucks I killed to yall on website and nearly sameish knowledge I grew up with mid 2000’s to now but a lot of calling and honestly paying no mind to scent. Finding good areas from what my dad and uncle showed when I was a kid and mixing both techniques have helped a whole lot
The message at the end is what I term the “video game era of success “. When you play a video game you’re guaranteed some level of success every time you play. Even in other sports like golf you’re going to get to hit the ball multiple times, even fishing you’ll have the opportunity to cast your rod multiple times. When you go deer hunting you can hunt all season without ever getting to draw or shoot your bow or fire your gun. For today’s generation, even some aged adults this has absolutely no appeal. They won’t stick with it or put in the time or effort to have success. My advice is learn to love the journey. Scouting, learning, weapons and practice, blood trailing, and enjoying time in nature, like sitting in the stand well before first light and watching the sun rise and the woods come to life. Last piece of advice, yes you have to master and get all the basics down pat but it’s always the little things that make the difference for success, that principle applies to almost anything in life. Learn and practice using those finer points. I’ve been an avid Bow hunter since 1975, have learned a ton and am still learning. Faith and patience are 2 of the greatest weapons to have in your arsenal. Happy Hunting!
I agree, God’s info. Sometimes I take my archery target with me on hunts and shoot a bit before I go out to my stand. I helps to self satisfy and calm the nerves a bit. It also helps keep in tune with your bow in a different setting than your backyard.
Just like I taught my kids. Put boots on the ground, and learn to hunt first. After that, then you can begin to cross reference what you learned with maps and other technology. I learned to hunt without topo maps or trail cams. I found out with boots on the ground and miles and miles of hiking. Not knowing where the deer "should be" but knowing where the deer actually are. Only then did I look at topo maps and satellite images to figure out why they are there. Now, I can break down large areas of public land with maps, easily locating high percentage areas. In the end, there is no replacement for boots on the ground.
People always historically fall into the trap of expecting technology to do the work. Trail cams, cell cams, etc., serve no purpose if you aren't using them to actually increase your own understanding of deer behavior. Cameras don't put you any closer to killing the deer you get a picture of on it. You still have to become a hunter. I really like the part where Dan talks about tactics taking 1, 2, 3 seasons to work before you actually kill something. it takes focus and mental power to retain those lessons in working memory and carry them from season to season. retaining mental notes about what deer did when: you spook them, bump them, what the weather conditions were when you saw him/them, what were they doing when you saw them (eating/browsing, moving on alert from A to B, etc).....parsing and processing this data is essential to becoming a better hunter way more than having 100 trail cameras in a 200 yd radius.
I’m on a deer lease in a hunting club with 20 generators running all opening week of gun season. I have 3 stand locations that I’ve been hunting archery season leading up to gun season with some success then nothing afterwards due to my scent all through my area. I’m going to start hunting areas on trails between those stands now.
They didn't give a crap about scent control. In fact my friends dad would ride his old ATV which reeked of gas and park it under his tree stand. He would smoke I. His stand and drink coffee from thermos all day. He peed right off the stand. He got a big buck every damn year. 6:37
In todays world technology has really changed things, like game cameras,drones etc. its not like when i was growing up the deer had much more of a chance then you had to use old techniques. Now you can pull up your app and see what times the deer or coming in and eating. Times have surely changed
Cause they’re not F’n around with ozonics and chapsnap and instability and life log. They’re not wondering which Sitka outfit to put on. Woodsmanship and patience.
I never understood how my dad always got it done every year…he never got overanxious, never told a soul of his ways but I know more now from him than anyone I’ve ever talked to and his ways have gotten me deer…same as fishing if the old timers are up for a chat do not cheat yourself sit and have that chat and pay attention and don’t interrupt
I been trying to get some of my less successful hunting buddies to realize that you're hunting as soon as you step off the road, not get to wherever it is you're going to sit watch. And, when watching isn't being productive, you gotta change it up. 30 years deer hunting and I'm just getting to where I feel like I'm decent at hunting on foot, blending into the environment. Its ok to make noise, it's impossible not to, it's even ok to make some loud noise, what matters is that the noise has to belong. Our season is 3 months long, this season my ass didn't touch the ground or a tree stand one single time and I had a great season. All this stuff is totally regionally dependent, what works in one place may not work just in the next town over.
I been hunting power lines here in the treacherous mountains of Harlan Ky! I’ve seen two good bucks this yr but I let the first eight point walk because he was above me and all I could see was his back. He was at 27 yards. Never seen him again. Then I saw a hammer of a buck eating grasses on a strip job but he was 80 yards away and all I hunt with is my bow. Idk why I’m not seeing any does and very few deer. This is a zone 4 and not a ton of deer here but I’m getting discouraged now so bad… any advice.
Because 1 we ain't looking at our cell phone when he walks by. 2 when we get out there we ain't making excuses to go home we making excuses to go to the woods and 3 if our wife says we can't hunt we grow a pair and get a new wife 😂
Old school hunters are better because of number of hunters, hunting pressure, tag availability etc etc.. Hunting is completely different now with out of state expenses, lotteries for tags, competitiveness etc. It can still be done, but gotta have access which we all know is way harder now
Big issue I've seen now is so many cams that it's tough for a buck to survive to be a true giant but I see a ton of decent young bucks now so guys are being picky seeing bigger deer on cam is making them pass the 2 year old 8 pointers now but the big boys don't make it to giant status often now
HE'S ONLY 43!!!! He looks older than many guys I know in their 60s who work in the mines!! 😮 He's talking like an oldtimer, I'm sitting here almost 10 yrs older waiting for this vast knowledge and only hearing what everyone else is saying. What are the guys interviewing him like 18-19????
He took the time to listen to an older successful hunter and learned from the knowledge the older man was willing to share. Old School hunters have alot to offer but most won't unless you ask and are willing to learn. I've been bow hunting successfully for 50 years..
Nothing new I've heard it all after 60 years.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 It's just like a 12 year old starting to race a dirt bike I've been there done that been there WON that.
Yeah these dudes are just talking out their ass. Large Parcels + good food sources + good habitat = big deer. Not rocket science. If you’re hunting in Western NC like me, big deer are far and few between. Sitting in a different spot or changing tactics isn’t going to make a B & C magically appear.
Being an older hunter myself and being successful on a regular basis with the bow when I was younger I believe 90% is because I had the time to hunt and it was my passion. Woodsman ship is a part of it reading signs and knowing food sources but time in the tree was the key.
Love this conversation. You guys have the best content hands down. I have been hunting for 43 years and have learned so much since I started following you guys. I have had my best season by far this year. I have been playing checkers for years and am now playing chess.
Can’t thank you enough!
Bill from TN.
If you don’t follow him on RUclips you should! The knowledge he’s willing to share out of pure kindness is unmatched…
@chase-uc1uh what’s the channel name?
@@Captn_Corplease share
@@Captn_Corthe cedar ridge chronicles
He’s a wealth of knowledge. And watching him put a shoulder mount together is almost therapeutic. Thoroughly enjoy his channel
If you don't follow him you don't hunt.
I stopped deer hunting years ago but still love hearing of it. I try to learn what I did wrong or could have done differently. There is a ton of information available now. I jokingly tell people I hunted the dumb bucks but it's true. I grossly underestimated how in tune with their home range deer are and that only grows sharper with age. A muture whitetail is one fine game animal and I congratulate all hunters that have taken them. We are so fortunate to have such an animal so widespread. Hunt safe and respectfully.
EXCELLENT COMMENTARY
Woodsmanship! Plain and simple, but it’s a lost art!
woods? i just go to my elevated deer blind with heat and wait for them to jump out of the woods
Feed and cams have ruined people on trying to learn it's become overwhelming and the guys that actually hunt and learn the skills are suffering due to technology while the lazy prosper
Been hunting for 53 years and to be a good hunter takes a lot of time in the woods, hunting lots of types of terrain, weather, seasons, etc. It takes boots on the ground. I use all the technology but that only gets me so far, after that it is scouting, attention to details, details that lead to decisions, learning the wind, picking THE spot, etc.
I have killed a deer for 40 years straight, this year I shot my biggest bodied buck ever this fall, Nov 15, probably one of the oldest bucks I have shot. Pulled a tooth for F+G so I hope to find out.
My advice to a young hunter is get out there in the woods, scout as much as you can, cover lots of ground, wear quiet clothing and learn how to shoot. Find a good hunting partner that is as passionate about it as you are. I hunt nothing but public land and primarily on the ground. Look for the nasty thick places that are really tough to hunt, the big boys will be there. Big deer are smart and you have to outsmart them, don't rely on luck. Know the spot is going to be the spot where you can kill him.
It's always good to hear someone around my age like Daniel talk about how we learned to deer hunt in clubs back in the 70's and 80's. There was always a couple of guys that took down monsters year after year. They were also the one's that spent the most time dedicated to becoming better woodsmen.
I think that is something that hunting has lost. Now we have all of these trail cameras and fancy equipment but our grandfathers and their fathers didn't have all of that. And I don't know about y'all. But for my grandfather's hunting was a necessity. That's how they got their meat for the holidays normally. And they didn't have all of that equipment. They just went hunting. My grandpa did not wear camouflage. He wore a red and black flannel jacket, a pair of jeans and some boots that were his work boots and he came home with a deer every year
I sent in a couple of the bucks I killed to yall on website and nearly sameish knowledge I grew up with mid 2000’s to now but a lot of calling and honestly paying no mind to scent. Finding good areas from what my dad and uncle showed when I was a kid and mixing both techniques have helped a whole lot
The message at the end is what I term the “video game era of success “. When you play a video game you’re guaranteed some level of success every time you play. Even in other sports like golf you’re going to get to hit the ball multiple times, even fishing you’ll have the opportunity to cast your rod multiple times. When you go deer hunting you can hunt all season without ever getting to draw or shoot your bow or fire your gun. For today’s generation, even some aged adults this has absolutely no appeal. They won’t stick with it or put in the time or effort to have success. My advice is learn to love the journey. Scouting, learning, weapons and practice, blood trailing, and enjoying time in nature, like sitting in the stand well before first light and watching the sun rise and the woods come to life. Last piece of advice, yes you have to master and get all the basics down pat but it’s always the little things that make the difference for success, that principle applies to almost anything in life. Learn and practice using those finer points.
I’ve been an avid Bow hunter since 1975, have learned a ton and am still learning. Faith and patience are 2 of the greatest weapons to have in your arsenal. Happy Hunting!
Excellent comment!
I agree, God’s info. Sometimes I take my archery target with me on hunts and shoot a bit before I go out to my stand. I helps to self satisfy and calm the nerves a bit. It also helps keep in tune with your bow in a different setting than your backyard.
*Good info
WORDS OF A TRUE HUNTER INDEED GOOD COMMENTARY
Just like I taught my kids. Put boots on the ground, and learn to hunt first. After that, then you can begin to cross reference what you learned with maps and other technology.
I learned to hunt without topo maps or trail cams. I found out with boots on the ground and miles and miles of hiking. Not knowing where the deer "should be" but knowing where the deer actually are. Only then did I look at topo maps and satellite images to figure out why they are there. Now, I can break down large areas of public land with maps, easily locating high percentage areas.
In the end, there is no replacement for boots on the ground.
People always historically fall into the trap of expecting technology to do the work. Trail cams, cell cams, etc., serve no purpose if you aren't using them to actually increase your own understanding of deer behavior. Cameras don't put you any closer to killing the deer you get a picture of on it. You still have to become a hunter. I really like the part where Dan talks about tactics taking 1, 2, 3 seasons to work before you actually kill something. it takes focus and mental power to retain those lessons in working memory and carry them from season to season. retaining mental notes about what deer did when: you spook them, bump them, what the weather conditions were when you saw him/them, what were they doing when you saw them (eating/browsing, moving on alert from A to B, etc).....parsing and processing this data is essential to becoming a better hunter way more than having 100 trail cameras in a 200 yd radius.
He's a Fantastic Guest..Good Stuff!
I’m on a deer lease in a hunting club with 20 generators running all opening week of gun season. I have 3 stand locations that I’ve been hunting archery season leading up to gun season with some success then nothing afterwards due to my scent all through my area. I’m going to start hunting areas on trails between those stands now.
This is how I was taught to hunt by my uncle Terry when I was ten till I hunted on my own.
They didn't give a crap about scent control. In fact my friends dad would ride his old ATV which reeked of gas and park it under his tree stand. He would smoke I. His stand and drink coffee from thermos all day. He peed right off the stand. He got a big buck every damn year. 6:37
In todays world technology has really changed things, like game cameras,drones etc. its not like when i was growing up the deer had much more of a chance then you had to use old techniques. Now you can pull up your app and see what times the deer or coming in and eating. Times have surely changed
Knowledge is power! ❤️🦌🥩
Cause they’re not F’n around with ozonics and chapsnap and instability and life log. They’re not wondering which Sitka outfit to put on. Woodsmanship and patience.
Ozonics are the only word I understood in that
@@nick9602just a boomer going off
I never understood how my dad always got it done every year…he never got overanxious, never told a soul of his ways but I know more now from him than anyone I’ve ever talked to and his ways have gotten me deer…same as fishing if the old timers are up for a chat do not cheat yourself sit and have that chat and pay attention and don’t interrupt
I been trying to get some of my less successful hunting buddies to realize that you're hunting as soon as you step off the road, not get to wherever it is you're going to sit watch. And, when watching isn't being productive, you gotta change it up. 30 years deer hunting and I'm just getting to where I feel like I'm decent at hunting on foot, blending into the environment. Its ok to make noise, it's impossible not to, it's even ok to make some loud noise, what matters is that the noise has to belong. Our season is 3 months long, this season my ass didn't touch the ground or a tree stand one single time and I had a great season. All this stuff is totally regionally dependent, what works in one place may not work just in the next town over.
I killed my first wall hanger last season out of my dad's tree lounge on public land. Proud to have success the old fashioned way.
Congrats!
I been hunting power lines here in the treacherous mountains of Harlan Ky! I’ve seen two good bucks this yr but I let the first eight point walk because he was above me and all I could see was his back. He was at 27 yards. Never seen him again. Then I saw a hammer of a buck eating grasses on a strip job but he was 80 yards away and all I hunt with is my bow. Idk why I’m not seeing any does and very few deer. This is a zone 4 and not a ton of deer here but I’m getting discouraged now so bad… any advice.
If all you could see was his back hired ya know it was an 8
they dont stare at their phones in the stand
When is this full episode airing?
I FUCKING LOVE THIS CHANNEL
Hell yeah! Lets goo
Because 1 we ain't looking at our cell phone when he walks by. 2 when we get out there we ain't making excuses to go home we making excuses to go to the woods and 3 if our wife says we can't hunt we grow a pair and get a new wife 😂
Old school hunters are better because of number of hunters, hunting pressure, tag availability etc etc..
Hunting is completely different now with out of state expenses, lotteries for tags, competitiveness etc. It can still be done, but gotta have access which we all know is way harder now
Ahhhh, if I could hunt every day all season. How long until retirement? 😢
“Pass the torch”
Big issue I've seen now is so many cams that it's tough for a buck to survive to be a true giant but I see a ton of decent young bucks now so guys are being picky seeing bigger deer on cam is making them pass the 2 year old 8 pointers now but the big boys don't make it to giant status often now
HE'S ONLY 43!!!! He looks older than many guys I know in their 60s who work in the mines!! 😮 He's talking like an oldtimer, I'm sitting here almost 10 yrs older waiting for this vast knowledge and only hearing what everyone else is saying. What are the guys interviewing him like 18-19????
He took the time to listen to an older successful hunter and learned from the knowledge the older man was willing to share. Old School hunters have alot to offer but most won't unless you ask and are willing to learn. I've been bow hunting successfully for 50 years..
The secret to hunting is....keeping it a secret.
Daniel is a he'll of a hunter...
Public or private?
Comes down to 2 words private property...
Uh they had places to hunt that werent leased to out of staters and all about the money
They dont buy all the gimmick gear and scents, they just go sit down where the deer are.
The new hunters don't know what hunting is they think setting in a heated blind is hunting half of them don't know a horned bush from a mop handle
74 yrs old . Still hunt a tree lounge.
Two hunnit billi to da you krane..."we may have to shut things down now "
Cause old guys can sit still all day😂
Until you gotta peee.
Twice an hr.
@@dieboldranger175 best deer attractant out there.
Nothing new I've heard it all after 60 years.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 It's just like a 12 year old starting to race a dirt bike I've been there done that been there WON that.
At this point in my hunting career I'm not sure deer even exist.
😂 we can relate, it’s been a tough year in Alabama!
I don't know a single older hunter that's the least bit capable... at all...
Would you please expand on your comment? Thanks.
Its the same stuff over and over by different people every year.
Why do the people with the most experience kill bigger deer hmmm
Because they make the kill shot when the big buck comes in and not hit him in the ASS.
Maybe it's because they own all the damn land. Payed for by a collared shirt and a firm hand shake.
"Tagged out in October! Didn't even have a chance to sit my 4th property." - every boomer in Michigan
Yeah these dudes are just talking out their ass. Large Parcels + good food sources + good habitat = big deer. Not rocket science. If you’re hunting in Western NC like me, big deer are far and few between. Sitting in a different spot or changing tactics isn’t going to make a B & C magically appear.
Boring.
Your talking alot but your not saying much bud