Grant Hill | Ep. 139 | ALL THE SMOKE Full Episode | SHOWTIME Basketball
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- Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
- Been waiting on this one 🔥 On episode 139 of ALL THE SMOKE, former NBA superstar and Duke basketball icon, Grant Hill joins the boys for an EPIC convo discussing his hall-of-fame career. He reflects on his college and NBA hoops journey. Plus, he talks about his post-playing career transition into the media world and his other business ventures.
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(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:01:35) - Grant’s new book “GAME”
(00:04:45) - 2022 Finals, Current NBA talk
(00:11:50) - Upbringing, Falling in love with basketball
(00:17:55) - Duke, Christian Laettner shot, 1994 Draft
(00:30:10) - Rookie year, 1992 Dream Team practice squad, Winning Gold at 1996 Olympics
(00:41:28) - Prime years in Detroit, Mental stress from injuries, NBA 75 thoughts
(00:52:00) - G Hill gives Matt and Stak flowers, T-Mac, Tim Duncan Orlando saga,
(01:04:25) - 2010 Playoffs with Phoenix, Losing to Lakers, Hilarious Shaq stories
(01:13:50) - Becoming an owner of the Hawks, other business ventures
(01:19:40) - Anita Baker introducing Grant to his wife, Being his own agent
(01:30:50) - Quick. Hitters
(01:42:14) - End
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(00:00:00) - Intro
(00:01:35) - Grant’s new book “GAME”
(00:04:45) - 2022 Finals, Current NBA talk
(00:11:50) - Upbringing, Falling in love with basketball
(00:17:55) - Duke, Christian Laettner shot, 1994 Draft
(00:30:10) - Rookie year, 1992 Dream Team practice squad, Winning Gold at 1996 Olympics
(00:41:28) - Prime years in Detroit, Mental stress from injuries, NBA 75 thoughts
(00:52:00) - G Hill gives Matt and Stak flowers, T-Mac, Tim Duncan Orlando saga,
(01:04:25) - 2010 Playoffs with Phoenix, Losing to Lakers, Hilarious Shaq stories
(01:13:50) - Becoming an owner of the Hawks, other business ventures
(01:19:40) - Anita Baker introduces Grant to his wife, Being his own agent
(01:30:50) - Quick. Hitters
(01:42:14) - End
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@@PIP...33 Facts, Facts and that's Facts!💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥🔥🤔🤔🤔
@@waligibson240 NO MATE, IM SERIOUS. In my 40 years I have never witness guy with better combination of vertical speed quickness to have post up moves fundamentals with both feet pivot an and ball control with both hands THE SAME. He had weakness his long shoot over 20 feet is not reliable and wasnt even good in 3s at all but he had pass playmaking and incredible feel when to drive when to pass. Unlike LeBron , Hill no need dozen snipers or to hold ball high usage. LeBron doesnt have great ball control, his usage top of the arc wait for others snipers to open while he stand and does nothing, thats not a passer to me, not to mention assist to turnover ration one of the worst in history with Harden and Westbrook. While Hill is more like Larry Bird he pass ball when games pace and flow comes to him he had feel for the game not ball hog forced dimes. If Hill stayed healthy I think he would be better than him.
Grant Hill got one of the CLEANEST FADES in the NBA of ALL TIME and STILL got a clean fade.
TIL THIS DAY
No question
True story
@@Damari90 ppl ppl lll L llop
Brotha 😂 this the comment , bruh has had the freshest fade for a min
"We gotta celebrate when we have success. Life isn't guaranteed. We gotta celebrate each other and Celebrate ourselves " Powerful statement G
Word.
Absolutely! 😎💪🏾
Life is guaranteed it's already set into place way before you was born of existence that's why we see some people make it and some people don't it was meant to be some people die young some people die all that's just the facts of life
@@deebrown5744 alright then
💯
Grant Hill, Derrick Rose, Penny Hardaway, Brandon Roy, if it wasn't for injuries who knows what type of resume and highlights we'd be looking at
And TMac
nah derrick rose reached his peak. These point guards nowadays are 2nd fiddle players. Unless u can create superteams around them. There not impactful enough to lead a solid team to a championship. That's why CP3 can play for like 5 different franchises and still not win a chip and westbrick same thing. Play for multiple different franchises and achieved nothing ever since KD left him. Dominate scoring point guards dont win chips.
FACTS ‼️‼️‼️‼️
@@KISS_MY_CONVERSE bro you're tripping drose wasn't even entering his prime when he got hurt, dude had JUST developed a jumpshot + hit the weight room hard, shit was over for all point guards for the upcoming years none of them were strong or quick enough to stay with him, + he had a decent Bulls team who would've for sure improved building around his growing talent.
Add Alonzo to that list.
You can tell Grant needed this, this was an all time great interview
Definitely gonna go out and buy his book! Always knew how good he was before injuries but really never knew much bout him and his life upmuntil this interview. I've Definitely became a giant fan of Grant Hill and have so much more respect for him as player and person! Would love to see him make a documentary or docu series bout his career and life! He mentioned on JJ Redick podcast that he and his wife have thought bout doing a podcast which I think would he would be awesome at! He just seems so down to earth and he's just looks at himself as just a regular guy! Extremely humble guy whose been at the top and almost lost it all even his life yet never let any of that hold him back! Never let the bad shit in life hold him down and never sat around felling sorry for himself! Just how he's said that he surpressed alot of emotions and everything while dealing with the injuries and those situations makes me really wanna read his book! Bet that it's phenomenal!
Sounds very intelegent
Indeed…this was a great interview. I’m not a Duke fan but have mad respect for Grant. I’m going to get the book!!
Give me chills to hear it from Grant himself how he dealt with the derailing injury, biggest what if
For real
Top 5 show of all the smoke
GH33
Grant Hill for the Pistons was the first jersey I ever bought. He was a BEAST in the 90s!
One of the best jerseys of all time.
@@yungrot7943 Those teal jerseys were low key tough.
I still have mine from back then too
Still got my teal G Hill 🔥
@@jarrellmason9080 I’m glad they bring them back next season 🔥 gotta get a Cade in teal as well
Grant Hill's game was a cross between Scottie Pippen and Magic Johnson. He was so smooth on the court. His senior year at Duke is still my favorite college basketball season
Great comparisons!
yeah mane grant hill show'd tha fuq out hiz senior year @ duke
He actually was like Ben Simmons. He always gave the Shaq-Kobe lakers problems. He had post moves! The only weakness was that he had no outside shooting.
However, if you sagged off him, he will use the space to attack inside. A lot better mentality than Ben Simmons ..
@@j5daniel182 nah he had it right
@@twizzy585ful at his peak he attempted 0.3 three point shots a game! With wuth 0.14% accuracy. Like basically he shot no 3s.
I love his brutal honesty about the top 75.
Its sad that he had some emotions when he wasn't apart of the top 75.
That’s that competitive animal in him.
@@ripesince88 True.
@@Doknot-tb9ey you
"You have to get comfortable stepping into Greatness."
That's a hell of a line.
This was a phenomenal episode.
G Hill is a staple in Detroit. I remember being 8 years old having his FILAS and my grandparents always taking me to see the Pistons play. He’s a legend. I hate that he never won a ring with the Pistons
He deserves his jersey retired in Detroit.
@@Doknot-tb9ey no he don’t ! Born and raised in Detroit Nobody talk about somebody who left us ! Maybe the magic or Suns !!
@@shauntaylor4423 Did he say anything bad about Detroit? Maybe he left because of the medical staff where his injuries gotten worse. He still had his best years in Detroit where the team was still relevant after the bad boys era, also winning co-rookie of the year. I don't think he will get his jersey retired in Orlando or Phoenix since he was past his prime on those teams.
@@Doknot-tb9ey he a great player and great man just not a Detroit Legend or pistons legend facts !!!
@@Doknot-tb9ey I am a die hard Detroit Piston’s fan you can’t tell me shit old man
That Top 15-20 list would look very different if Grant Hill didn’t deal with all of those injuries. Prime Grant Hill when MJ retired the 1st time they was passing the mantle to him. Grant was one of my fav players growing up in the 90’s. Class personified and humble.
Indeed. The first legit next MJ.
Grant, T-Mac & Penny would be top 20 All Time if it wasn’t for injuries imo
@@MarvelousJP They should be top 20 regardless I mean injuries happen.
People forget LARRY JOHNSON, JAMAL MASHBURN as well as HILL AND HARDAWAY I mean all 4 of those guys were great from the outset when they were kids. They had greatness in their future positively no question asked
Healthy Grant with healthy Tmac 🔥🔥
Wow....this is one of the BEST interviews I've ever watched!!! People don't really know how GREAT of a player Grant Hill was. This gave people a lot of insight on what he went through during his time in the NBA. I'm sorry, but to me he's definitely top 50 GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME.....HANDS DOWN!!!
This was by far one of the most favorite interviews. I grew up in the 90’s and always felt that void in Grant not having the chance to get back to his greatness.
G Hill and Penny were the players that made me fall in love with Basketball. Happy to see him on here.
People have no clue what a monster prime grant hill was. Grant n penny were beasts in the 90s. Two guys who were huge what if’s. Grant,penny, Len bias, Ralph Sampson, sabonis, petrovic. Biggest what ifs
Right. Dude had next before he got hurt
My top 2 favorite players growing up i make my kid google them and their games 🤷🏻♀️🤣🤣
Yes lawd
we have a clue... we were there!
Don’t forget Reggie Lewis
How can you not love grant hill... humility is a lost art esp in sports.. look at his answer when they asked him how he would've fared against today's game.. no bragging or boasting.. true gentleman 💯
When it comes to this man here, T-Mac said it best: We were robbed of seeing greatness.
Grant Hill was the one who was supposed to take over the league when MJ retired He was the first prototype of what we see today in nba players
Grant Hill.. A True Class Act!! It Was A Pleasure Watching Him In College & The NBA.
Grant, Penny, T-Mac.....3 greatest players of all-time that we never got to see at their greatest "greatness" because of injuries & none of them are bitter. I'm glad y'all gave us this episode
Vince Carter as well
And Brandon Roy
@@Pettis179 hell yeah, absolutely!! Forgot about him & Danny Grainger
Dajuan wagner we was cheated too he would of been good he had that dog in him too..
Easily the best episode! Grant is a great orator, intelligent, classy, entertaining. He was really groomed to be the face of the NBA in the mid-late 90s. I remember seeing him and Tamia at a Golden Corral in Orlando. He walked in on crutches with his family and as a kid I asked for a picture with a disposable camera. He reluctantly agreed to letting me take it of him on his way out. I think the injuries took a big toll on him on and off the court but he was always very down to earth and humble.
All I got to say is Tupac All eyez on me CD cover ❤️🔥Grant Hills FILAs sitting down in front of the 96 Mercedes 🔥🔥🔥
I'm so happy Grant finally truly opened up about his injuries and how it made him feel. He always took the stoic route when talking about it.... it must have been so therapeutic for him to finally share with the world his frustration and sadness with it. Great interview!!!
This man right here was so nasty with it hate that injuries cut his prime short.
True but he still got into the hall of fame...so it all works out
@@sidneygraham not really he could of been top ten all time
Been nasty man I swear grant hill been the one
The first really legitamate next Micheal Jordan
It was while watching Beyond The Glory that I like Grant was fuckin’ niggas ankles up 😂
Crazy thing with Kobe, EVERYONE who goes to the gym late sees him working. Amazing.
Grant keep ur head up!! I'm 51 and from Chicago. Trust me, everyone knows how fantastic you were before your injury!! You are a NBA legend!!!! Peace and love!
Hill was smooth and it didn't really look like he was working hard but when the game was over he would have 35-10-10. His athleticism was also very slept on
My first NCAA memory as a kid was seeing a player that looked about 6'8/6'9 moving and playing like a Point Guard, doing everything. It just looked very different. Then I learned the name was Grant Hill playing for that Duke University.
I was very young when Grant was in the league so didn’t watch him, but fully enjoyed this interview. I also loved that he took any opportunity he could to mention Tamia. So funny, but adorable. It’s dope to see all of these basketball players with podcasts shifting the narrative on players. Great job as usual guys!
I am saying. Tamia has that man heart locked. 💑 It is like he played in Detroit but any chance he got, he was in LA with her before marriage.
one of the most modest superstars. i think attending college for 4 years developed his character prior to getting into the league rather than being one-and-done
Grant Hill…legend.
Legend!!
Grant hill is legendary.. I didn’t realize he’s into so many endeavours.. man is crazy busy
Never heard this legend speak so confident about his talent. He gave MJ the business several times
He wasn't joking. He made prime Scottie Pippen look like a child. Look up prime Hill vs Jordan.
Y’all really in yall prime right now. One of the best episodes yet I learned a LOT. I’ve seen every episode since JR smith day one the growth is wild
Hearing that he's mad about not being select to top 75th of the NBA, especially he's in the Cleveland, in the arena, watching the guys he had played against in his era, really make me heartbreaking and feel sorry for him. And you can tell he felt same heartbreaking feeling by his voice when he talked about how injury change his career and miss the call from Phil Jackson. Despite all that, he still had really great NBA career, and his story inspired so many people, nice to see him can finally let the past go and move on by publish the book. This is the one of the best episode ever.
G-Hill Hairline Immaculate for the last 30 years
Please get Drose I’d love to hear his story, one of my favorite players his story inspires me so much just in every day life alone
Would be a instant classic
Grant's maternal grandmother lived in New Orleans and he always came down every summer. The neighborhood park was called Lawrence Square. We played basketball everyday. One particular time Grant came for the summer -and was 6 inches taller! And the rest is history. LOL
I love that Grant Hill got mad comfortable in this interview and shared his truth! Shout out Southlakes HS and Reston/, VA!
One of few men who can say they gave Jordan the business
Crossed Pippen, dunked on Mutombo and Zo he was so cold
This man was a baller and his cross over was serious shout out to grant hill true legend
Because Grant Hill’s father played for the Cowboys and he’s a die hard Cowboy fan himself, Jack can finally have his day lol.
You know you've made your mark as a podcast when you got Grant Hill, of all people, cursing and keeping it raw. Great work Matt and Stak!
Really under appreciated. This man is the nicest player in the league and at one point was one of the best. It’s a shame that him and Tracy are not on the 75 best players.
27:20 man it’s follow ups like this that make Matt such a great interviewer. He knows his audience so well
Never comment on RUclips but seeing 3 of my favorite players in the same place talking about the sport I love is priceless. Grant Hill is one of my favorite all-time, class, humility and can ball and will kick ass in any era. Thanks, Matt and Stephen great show.
Fantastic interview… I have never heard Grant talk this much. Love it
Grant Hill was the only Duke player that I like while they were still playing for Duke. Absolute legend!
G Hill absolute legend. All the smoke always fire. Appreciate all 3 of you! 💨
Great interview!!!! Grant Hill was awesome and I never thought I would hear him curse, but it was all for fun. Matt & Stack is great together and this show is AWESOME!!!
Grant Hill rockin the Grant Hills 🔥🔥
Grant epitomizes class.
Listening to him describe his injury actually upset me because I had a non union fracture/ injury my senior year right before I was going to be offered a scholarship. I didn't walk for nearly 2 years...I know his pain smh
Im happy to see Grant receiving his flowers he was definitely a great player and i agree with Matt & Stack he should've been part of that 75 list
Whenever Matt says, “Mmmhmm,” I momentarily think everything in life is gonna be ok. The respect former players show these dudes says everything!
Grant Hill is the man. I've listened to 2 podcasts with him as a guest and not one second did I feel like tuning out.
Yoooo! As I’m listening to this at work I realize Grant Hill is my boss!! I’m a truck driver for Snyder pretzels, cape cod and kettle chips, and all natural snacks. Owned by Campbells!
God really blessed Hill, the man is great at everything he pursues
One of my all time favorites. Just a great player, but an even greater man who's as humble as he was good on the court. Prime Grant Hill would crush most "superstars" of today and had he not been injured, would be high up on in the summit of Mount Rushmore. A healthy Grant would have also changed the trajectory of Tracy McGrady's career too and we'd have gotten many more years from the two.
Thank you for this interview.
Facts! Class Act!
That's ankle injury sounds fked ! That Detroit medical team was off its head ! I knew he had a lot groin issues although never knew the ankle shit ! Of course he was never the same, credit to his strength and mental tenacity coming back to the nba !!
Grant Hill is humble, he'd destroy kids in this era.
Grant one of the unspoiled only child of professional parents. Thank you his parents. I pray you are proud of your baby. Grant missed Jada’s bullet.
G Hill is still one of my favorite players. I watched him from college, to pre-season, until he left my Pistons. I wish he never got hurt.
I been a grant hill fan the 1st time i saw him playing for duke. So happy his on the show, thanks guys great interview. Ur guest keep getting better and better. Love u guys been all the smoke fan from episode 1 ❤️.
I never really knew too much about ghill besides that he was a super talented player whose career was hurt by injuries but he still ended up playing a long time, him being part of the hawks, and him being a respectable analyst on tv. But after listening him on here and on jj's pod i am blown away by his remarkable story. I really enjoyed his great storytelling too. It's amazing to see what he's been through, how much he's accomplished and all that he's involved in now. Seems like he has stories for days from all those years he played and tons off the court stuff too. I thought he was super open, honest and thoughtful. Seems like his book really got him to want to open up more and dive deep on his history. I feel like anything he wants to do he would be successful at. He really seems to have a sharp and in depth mind. Ive got a whole lot more respect and admiration for him now. I mean from how serious his injuries were, the crazy details with that, his great/wild music stories, going up against a lot of the best of all time, usa ball etc. Dude has seen a lot and im looking forward to hearing more and seeing what hes up to next especially him picking the usa squad thats huge. Good for grant man. Im glad it seems like his peers have ultimate respect for him and hopefully this book and his media appearances will make an even broader audience appreciate him more. Easy guy to root for after learning about him
thank you for the episode. Grant was my childhood idol and it's so nice to hear about his stories from his own perspective. This video has conjured my memory of excitement for unboxing and lacing those FILAs as a kid from Japan.
His Fila Signature sneaker actually outsold Jordans back in the day and now since he signed a lifetime deal with Fila his retro sneakers actually made Fila back relevant in sneaker culture my fave G.Hill fila sneakers was 1-3 the rest were dope also but the 1-3 was when he was dominating the league.
Because Jordan's were $100-125. Nobody could afford those lol. Grant hill was probably $75
Grant hill always head one of the best barbers I swear always crispy 🔥🔥💪🏾
Bro, his crossover was legendary
Grant Hill is one of my all time favorite players. Man if he never got injured...smh 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 what a legend.
#salutetogreatness 👊🏿
My all-time favorite player. When he was in Detroit, he could do anything he wanted on the court, to anyone he wanted to. He Gave MJ and Pippen the business and did it to Shaq and Kobe. And I love Kobe as a player, but nobody wanted the smoke from a healthy Grant Hill.
That left to right cross was stupid
He gave pippen the business lol.
This was amazing!! More retired NBA stars please!!! Much respect to G Hill
This is the talent I grew up with!! Thank you for this treat and you guys are blessings continue to be givers!!
So many goat stories, I’m like a kid in the candy store
I can't wait to read the book. Grant Hill is my all-time favorite.
I became a basketball fan because of Grant Hill. Back when he played for the Pistons. If he didn't get hurt then, he'd be a household name, next to Jordan.
I love the show man, ya'll best yourselfs each time. Im very proud and satisfied
We needed this interview for his closure and ours🙏🏾💯... Grant was/is the greatest what if story ever🙌🏿🤞🏾🔥🔥🔥
Great interview, good to see this side of Grant Hill , great, and good questions.
Grant was awesome, that first step was one of the greatest ever .
I didn’t have any role models growing up, but Grant Hill was the only one along with Kobe and Earl Monroe. I really looked up to Grant. Him and his wife Tamia was the only relationship I looked up to when I was young. 🔥🙏🏽
One of my favorite players in the NBA. One of the best to do it. Keep these great interviews coming fellas.
Grant would've been top 10 all time, had injuries not shortened his career!!
Love hearing those Kobe stories. G Hill a legend 🫡
My favorite player ever! Met him when he was at Duke! Been my favorite every since!! ✊🏾✊🏾
Great interview!! Grant was definitely able to unpack somethings
Great interview. Grant Hill is a class act on and off the court.
Hands down the best episode so far. I'm probably biased cause he's my 2nd favorite player ever, but man, he's such a class act. Intelligent, eloquent and always super humble. Kids don't realize it but he really supposed to be the next MJ.
I just can't believe y'all didn't ask him who won that 1 on 1 with Kobe SMH.
Kobe, he never lose
Who’s your first favorite player?
@@leontteilc9527 MJ
EPIC interview guy's. Thank you so much.
This is very inspirational interview...thank you G hill...your a beast on your prime...
Loved the interview 👍🏿
They need to get Brandon Roy on he was a killer to till injury
I loved Grant Hill so much growing up! He was one of my first crushes lol! Amazing player! I hate that the injuries held him back. I had his jersey and the Filas. His Sprite commercial - “Grant Hill drinks Sprite” one of the best ever! And he married one of my favorite singers Tamia! So happy y’all did this interview! ❤️
Most excited I've been for a pod between hosts and guests. Grant was my favorite player before I even knew what basketball really was.
One of my favorite players as a kid..he’s bounce was unreal no bs
That was all the smoke!! Another banger. Two real ones grinding!! Keep it up Gs.
Damn straight!
thank you for this interview
Man! So glad for this interview. We see Grant all the time on tv with broadcasting but its good to see him relaxed and comfortable, talking like one of the guys. Grew up rooting for him and even had a pair of his shoes back in the day. He often gets left off the list when we look at all time greats but he for real was a serious problem and had it not been for his injury the history of the league would look totally different.
Grant Hill was LeBron before LeBron.
Say that again for those in the back!
YYYEEESSS,.. HE WAS,.. & I JUST ABOUT TO TEXT THAT IN!!!😁😁
Imagine he went North Carolina though
@@calsums914 NNNAAAWWW,.. DUKE, WAS THE PERFECT COLLEGE,.. FOR HIM!!!
HE COULDN'T GET NNOOO BETTER, BECAUSE,.. DUKE WAS A WINNING SYSTEM!!!
FACTS!
This episode is in my top 5. I grew up watching Grant Hill my 1st basketball sneaker were Grant Hills. Youngster need to Google him bc he was the next 1!!!! G was a beast definitely 🐐!! We need T Mac and GP next guys
A dope dope dope interview with a certified killer in Grant Hill. Definitely the biggest " what if" cos he used to cook all them wings in Detroit. Love this appreciate your amazing work gent's