HUGE MOTO rack update | Dirt Bike Canopy Ep#3

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @riverleeunderwood8871
    @riverleeunderwood8871 2 месяца назад +12

    5:54 Your gas struts are the wrong way(upside down), they have got a lubricant in them so that done dry out. lOVE the build good job.

    • @Ashdoingstuff
      @Ashdoingstuff 2 месяца назад +2

      They won't clear the angle bar that the top mount is fixed to fitted in that position. He said there was only a mm clearance.

    • @obsgr1
      @obsgr1 Месяц назад

      Nothing a bit of silicone lube can't solve.

    • @NeilvanGeffen
      @NeilvanGeffen Месяц назад

      ​@@Ashdoingstuffstill worth adjusting so he can get the struts the right way around :-)

  • @cyclemoto8744
    @cyclemoto8744 2 месяца назад +4

    Said before and I'll say it again, wow and well done with this canopy/ramp/bike holder system. Cheers

  • @Ringadingdingitstheking
    @Ringadingdingitstheking 2 месяца назад +2

    One of the best channels out there atm👌🏼

  • @flippnorge7105
    @flippnorge7105 Месяц назад

    Super cool project! Have binge watched your channel the last two days. Really good content! And it’s super fun to see the editing and filming have improved a lot the last year, was good before but really high quality now. Keep up the amazing work!

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks mate, glad you enjoy the channel. Cheers for following on and thanks for the kind words!

  • @tbillington
    @tbillington 2 месяца назад +4

    Turn buckles with hooks would be my solution to the peg issue. Looks good so far.

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      I'm pretty keen on solid mounts for the foot peg holders!

  • @PeterGibson-z8f
    @PeterGibson-z8f Месяц назад

    5:20 - chuck some scrap wood or metal behind your holes for when the drill bit punches though, to prevent those dents and scratches from the drill bit (or a drill bit stop). Love the journey! Just watch out for those low hanging branches on tracks!

  • @DavidBianchi-vf1nb
    @DavidBianchi-vf1nb Месяц назад

    Rich, nice fab work…love it. Living tool life through you these days!!

  • @blobcsgo7190
    @blobcsgo7190 Месяц назад +2

    Got my sub, cool work. Looking forward to the spare tire deal and the canopy also!

  • @schoey4x4
    @schoey4x4 2 месяца назад +4

    Awesome build mate. That paint looks awesome.
    As a suggestion maybe run a ratchet style strap at the rear of the front wheel which will give three points of contact and hold the tyre hard against the brace stopping it from being able to roll out of the holder. Just a suggestion, I am sure you will figure it out as the rest of the design is brilliant

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +2

      Yep I like it, I just want it to be super simple to use. Ideally no straps! Maybe I can test a few concepts first with that method though.

  • @sirstevo
    @sirstevo 2 месяца назад +3

    Just adding a comment to help with the algorithm.
    Another great video. Keep up the awesome content 👍

  • @FatTraction
    @FatTraction 2 месяца назад +2

    Great build! Instead of the winch, have you considered a worm drive system? You could have a rotating central threaded shaft which the carrier runs up and down. This would have the added benifit of being a good failsafe as the worm drive wont allow it to slide back down unintentionally.
    Keep up the good work!

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  Месяц назад

      Cool idea, do you think you could make it work quickly?

    • @FatTraction
      @FatTraction Месяц назад

      @DesignedandBuilt Yeah I'm pretty confident you could get it to operate at a reasonable speed. Have a look at a ball screw or lead screw CNC machine for some inspiration

  • @stevebonczyk3795
    @stevebonczyk3795 2 месяца назад +1

    Great build. Its always nice watching someones super complicated build come to reality.

  • @Kovacz13130
    @Kovacz13130 2 месяца назад +2

    Trial and error mate. Love ya work!

  • @yamumatittys
    @yamumatittys Месяц назад

    I’ve watched the build from getgo and what great improvements you have done. It’s all about trial and error.

  • @JackCunliffe-m1k
    @JackCunliffe-m1k Месяц назад

    It's such an over-engineered build, but hey, that's okay. I love watching this and learning heaps of new things from someone who knows what they're doing. Good stuff, man!!

  • @scott_edwards23
    @scott_edwards23 2 месяца назад

    Good episode mate.👌I know the feeling 2 steps forward 1 step back.👍Looking forward to the next episode. 💯

  • @ianwatson3315
    @ianwatson3315 2 месяца назад

    Bloody awesome 🙌

  • @jayeyoung513
    @jayeyoung513 2 месяца назад

    I used to use a bike rack that slid into my towbar. I modified it slightly so I could use a ratchet strap to pull the foot pegs down. It was as simple as some eye bolts slightly wider than the foot pegs and slightly in front of them. I used 2 ratchet straps. The first would connect to the left foot peg. Run through the left eye bolt and pull from the right eye bolt. The second would connect to the right foot peg and run through the right eye bolt and connect to the left eye bolt.

  • @xMostdoubted
    @xMostdoubted 2 месяца назад +2

    A quick turn bucket system that latches to the canopy and the peg. Squat the bike and lock it in place

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Hey mate, my concern for those is given the bike is on an angle I wanted solid mounts as a failsafe incase the front wheel holder failed!

  • @trekano9849
    @trekano9849 Месяц назад

    try UES for the hardware, plastic one PC hinge is worth a look

  • @tinniesnturbos
    @tinniesnturbos 2 месяца назад

    You could run run a ratchet strap from your sled, over one peg, under the bike and over the other peg and back down to your sled. You could incorporate a few pulleys into your design so the strap doesn’t get bound up and could run the strap parallel with the sled so it’s easy to actuate the ratchet. You could also do this closer to the ground so it’s easier to do up.

  • @monette44
    @monette44 2 месяца назад

    Love all the fab work and design, I can tell your very passionate about it all... But I would have just bought a pickup and rode my bike more 😉

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Thanks mate! Fair enough, each to their own!

  • @dyldobaggins8173
    @dyldobaggins8173 2 месяца назад

    Rig up an over-centre style clamp for the pegs. Like the lift stands but upside down.

  • @ausoff-road7795
    @ausoff-road7795 2 месяца назад +1

    Saw the rig out at Mystic bike park today🔥

  • @erolmunur5879
    @erolmunur5879 2 месяца назад

    Looks good

  • @muzzarobbo
    @muzzarobbo Месяц назад

    have you seen the rear wheel specific, motorbike tie down ratchets. combined with a little divet for the rear wheel it basically constrains the whole bike (as a fail-safe if the front let's go.

  • @benjaminjonholman
    @benjaminjonholman 2 месяца назад

    Maybe some sort of large over center latch. Like the type that is used to hold swing out tire carriers closed. But design one that's stout enough to hold the weight of the bike.

  • @shanenorwell8580
    @shanenorwell8580 2 месяца назад +2

    Loving the build mate, I do think you’re hugely overthinking/complicating the tie downs though. A set of either turn buckles or miniature chain binders would be quite adequate, simpler and probably quicker.

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Hey Shane, my concern for those is given the bike is on an angle I wanted solid mounts as a failsafe incase the front wheel holder failed!

  • @benfarmer94
    @benfarmer94 2 месяца назад

    Damn I thought that idea would for sure have worked, cheers for giving it a crack regardless Richie👌
    Another concept I had (which you can rig to even have forward and lateral pull on the bike) is to have a rope a fixed length with hooks on the either end which attach to pegs. As the winch pulls the slide up, the rope gains tension by pulling up around the front of the slide and back to a set of pulley blocks fixed to the canopy under the final peg location (which redirect the rope upwards to the pegs). Bit of a hard one to explain, I’ll shoot you a dm with a rough drawing.

  • @andrewlangford88
    @andrewlangford88 2 месяца назад

    Very nice! What about some sort of over centre lock for the pegs?

  • @justchillinout2002
    @justchillinout2002 2 месяца назад

    Have you considered simple chain binders? One on each foot rest? Quick, easy and existing technology

  • @caseyplayer1279
    @caseyplayer1279 2 месяца назад

    Could you make some form of over centre latch to pull down on the foot pegs

  • @rickfazzini22
    @rickfazzini22 2 месяца назад

    Wonder if you could use the stand-off you have created for the peg mount but at a pivoting clasp that would rotate around the peg as the bike travels towards its resting place and then install a pin through the rotating mech into the post??
    I could draw you up something that would explain it easier. No matter what this is an amazing build love the truck and bed system,,,,,outstanding!!

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Cheers Rick, I think I get you! Cracking idea.

  • @swbpajlife
    @swbpajlife Месяц назад

    What about a latching system like a gate for the foot pegs, once the pegs hit the latch in the pocket, the latch rolls over the pegs into something that can then be pad locked!?

  • @loganmarson3904
    @loganmarson3904 2 месяца назад

    Hey bud, love the build and the design. I was thinking for the foot pegs you could make some brackets that go through the center of the foot pegs and pin into threaded tie downs with some beefy latches so you can be sure that the bikes are locked in and will not move off-road yet are still easy to operate. Definitely not an easy design task for sure. You and a few others have inspired me to put my fabrication to some use and I will eventually be starting a channel of my own. Happy to try and put my idea into fusion but I’m still learning 😅

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Cheers Logan. I think I get it, send me a sketch!

    • @loganmarson3904
      @loganmarson3904 2 месяца назад

      @@DesignedandBuilt I’ll sketch it up after work and send it through! 👍🏽

  • @mitchGreen-s4q
    @mitchGreen-s4q Месяц назад

    Why not use the rack and roll front wheel brace and also the turn buckles over the pegs.

  • @thebundybiker9421
    @thebundybiker9421 2 месяца назад

    What about some sort of nut and bolt system that connects the foot pegs to the canopy, line it up and and hit it with the uguduga a few times

  • @luketeuma487
    @luketeuma487 2 месяца назад

    Richo can you do a video on the maths and working out the gas struts length/pressure ?

  • @abrgrg
    @abrgrg 2 месяца назад

    For the foot peg clamp....why not make something that's like a hook that's is mounter to a hinge on the canopy. The more you slide the bike up the more it pulls.the bike down into the canopy. When bike is off the canopy you the hinged hook can lay flat on the canopy...just a thought

  • @SteveB-zv9gg
    @SteveB-zv9gg 2 месяца назад

    If the front axle on the bike is hollow pin through it works a treat

  • @jdenmark1287
    @jdenmark1287 2 месяца назад

    I would have like to see you go in the direction of a hydraulic arm lifting a sliding platform onto the Ute bed like the ones used on trash bin loaders or car hauling platforms.

  • @35manning
    @35manning 2 месяца назад

    How about you use a soft shackle around the front wheel, run the winch rope from the front of the carrier back to the soft shackle (and if needed for clearance, back to the carrier).
    Then as you winch in, it will pull the wheel into the carrier and sold that problem entirely, as well as add extra security incase the wheel grip fails.

  • @Ashdoingstuff
    @Ashdoingstuff 2 месяца назад

    Put a strap around the front rim tied to the wheel brace. If those are Ballard's wheel braces, which I think that are, they come with a little strap to do just that. Then the wheel will be locked in place.

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      They are Ballards, I didn't realise they came with that strap. Will have to have a look.

    • @Ashdoingstuff
      @Ashdoingstuff 2 месяца назад

      @@DesignedandBuilt It's just a little cam buckle strap. Any strap will do the trick though.

  • @HJ-qv9so
    @HJ-qv9so 2 месяца назад

    Hey mate the rig looked awesome at my local MTB trails yesterday. Was that a custom Mtb rack on the back? If so maybe a quick vid on that?

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey mate, that’s one I’ve been developing for the past 18 months to sell! Hoping to have it launched before Christmas. Video will be on RUclips in the next month.

    • @HJ-qv9so
      @HJ-qv9so 2 месяца назад

      @@DesignedandBuilt hope you enjoyed mt cotton mate

  • @Angler233
    @Angler233 2 месяца назад

    Out of interest whats the gvm and front and rear axle loads for this custom rig? What would it weigh with you and a buddy, 2 bikes, the kitchen stuff youre talking about and all the gear?

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      3400kgs! It's about 2400kgs with 200L of fuel so 1000kgs to play with. 220Kg for the bikes. Maybe 300kgs for the canopy as is so a fair bit to play with!

    • @Angler233
      @Angler233 2 месяца назад

      Wow that's pretty good. Cool thanks

  • @Tomshuski350
    @Tomshuski350 2 месяца назад

    You could add a front wheel locking mechanism to stop it rolling back

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Cheers Tom, yep have been thinking about something like that.

  • @MattLepp1
    @MattLepp1 2 месяца назад

    What about a large over centre style latch that hooks onto the foot peg and latches to pull the bike down?

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Yep something like that would work for sure!

  • @Blakesvz
    @Blakesvz Месяц назад

    1:23 the music reminds me of a video from eye candy motorsports. Only a very few people know that video watching this I bet!

  • @haydenkenwrick3209
    @haydenkenwrick3209 2 месяца назад +2

    I like the ideas and development you are doing to design a Moto rack system that is different to anything currently on the market. However from an engineering and practicality point of view, I feel like you have missed the mark. I have watched this build series from the start and I recall you mentioning this idea came from wanting to wheel hard tracks whilst also carrying the bikes. You might find it hard to wheel 4wd tracks (or even public roads) where there are no trees. The bikes protrude well over a metre above the cab and will be damaged by any tree you drive passed/under (like that one on the footpath).
    It is also quite a complex design with a lot of moving parts. A simple task of stowing a motorbike is now a 15min exercise. I believe there is also numerous failure points with this design, particularly given the environment for its application. The many bearings/wheels may fail due to vibration, dust ingress and fatigue from a 100+ kg bike and rack bouncing on top of it. If a winch fails, how many people will it take to manually push the bike up the canopy to stow it. Will there be this many people in the remote places you are travelling? Will the rack slide just as easily when there’s mud, sand and grit between all the components from 4wding?
    I do like the concept and the design process that has gone into this system. Although sometimes engineers need to take a step back and look at whether it’s worth reinventing the wheel or simply making adjustments to an already available item to make it suitable for a different application.
    Keep up the good work. Love the progression of you’re channel, particularly the fabrication side👍🏻💯

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Hey Hayden, I have no intention of taking it down hard tracks. It just needs to get to the campsite!
      4x4's have mtbs on the roof all the time, so I'm not too concerned about height.
      Agree with all your concerns in regards to failurepoints! They can all be solved.
      The idea of this should make it a 1 min excercise with no staps! Just trying to figure it out.
      Thanks mate, appreciate it!

  • @utubetrutharrowmichael-and9105
    @utubetrutharrowmichael-and9105 2 месяца назад

    For a minute there I thought it was going to include a slide out hot plate or cooker ... BBQing alone ... all set to jacket off yourself... Todd Carney designed bubbler and you're well on your way !

  • @Midnightpurpler34
    @Midnightpurpler34 2 месяца назад

    Hey mate, it was great seeing you at Neerim South! I never got an autograph, though!

  • @Travis-w4f
    @Travis-w4f Месяц назад

    Are these going to be commercially available?

  • @aaronlang7064
    @aaronlang7064 2 месяца назад

    There’s a pic circulating the net lately of a turn buckle on foot peg failed and bike dragged behind the car for a while. The foot peg idea alone scares me, I’ve had one break and wouldn’t trust it alone. Run some straps from the bars as a back up and call it a win. Could even make it so you put the straps on before the bikes are winched up

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey Aaron, I think it needs to be fixed from the footpegs to get the rigidity it needs! Or somewhere other than the front wheel.

    • @aaronlang7064
      @aaronlang7064 Месяц назад

      @@DesignedandBuilt front straps and a bar through the rear axle to some turn buckles?

  • @riaan6321
    @riaan6321 2 месяца назад

    You can make use of the over-centre lever principle to pull down on the bike foot pegs when the bike is fully pulled up. The over-centre lever is also self locking and you can assert more leverage by making your lever longer.
    You can take it a step further and link the left-and-right hand side foot peg over-centre lever mechanisms together mechanically and just have one lever to actuate…it’s a bit more complex but doable I think.
    A thought on the fixed mechanical foot peg ramps in your video….that is a lot of surface area that is making contact with each foot peg. The angle of the ramps looks too steep for me….having a shallower angle, I think, will be better. Also, I would rather use a round profile instead of a wide flat profile that makes contact with the foot peg…like round bar. If it was me I would also look at the type of material to use for the round bar…this is for durability but I think you need a material that is harder that the foot pegs to reduce friction. EN8 maybe…? or a type of stainless steel….?

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      Thanks Riaan! Good suggestions on the over centre lever! I agree with you in regards to the ramp angle of the fixed holders - I just guessed haha. I like the idea of different profile like round, stainless or HDPE maybe. Cheers mate.

  • @warrenharms1477
    @warrenharms1477 2 месяца назад

    A mechanical style ratchet to pull down, similar to a high lift jack system but more compact…..having to manually compress the suspension is always gonna be a pain.

  • @MatthewDonagal
    @MatthewDonagal 2 месяца назад

    Hey mate.
    I know you like complicated things.
    Since you have the canopy under for wiring. Why don’t you try run electric actuators on a cantilevered design where extending actuator will pull pegs down and you just put a lip on the clamp to hold the pegs on bike from sliding down.

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Haha thansk Matthew, yep Actually I think thats a pretty good idea - gravitating towards it. I'm not sure it even needs to be a cantilever - I'll look up some specs today.

    • @MatthewDonagal
      @MatthewDonagal 2 месяца назад

      @@DesignedandBuilt doesn’t matter the force of the actuator the more canter-lever you put on it the greater the force on the other side of the hinge point.
      Remote control relay set up push of a button and bam she’s locked and you’ve already punched a long neck. Haha

  • @ROWDMedia
    @ROWDMedia 2 месяца назад

    For the pegs, Big screw clamp and a rattle gun 🤷‍♂️ keep it simple. If you're rattle gun fails you still have ratchet or tyre iron as a back up.

  • @6226superhurricane
    @6226superhurricane 2 месяца назад +8

    bike binderz already exist.

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      I have had a look, I personally don’t like the aesthetic of them on the back of the canopy! Also I want to use the peg holders as a failsafe if the front wheel holder fails. I'm not convinced it would work well enough given they aren't solid mounts!

    • @6226superhurricane
      @6226superhurricane 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DesignedandBuilt you must be looking at something different because they're attached with an L track and take 2 seconds to remove when not in use. the only thing fixed to canopy permanently is the L track which is as small as a 50 cent piece if using a single position point. (which is what they come with)

    • @shanenorwell8580
      @shanenorwell8580 2 месяца назад

      Just had to search them myself, They look perfect.

    • @derricksnow2669
      @derricksnow2669 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DesignedandBuilt
      Funny I was gonna suggest these too!
      Other thought is what if the binders(no matter the style) are mounted to the sliding tray, so you can lock it down closer to the ground, and as it gets pulled up there like little wings off the tray slide into slots mounting to the canopy to suck the whole tray down removing any play in the track system. So something like you just showed for the foot pegs but for the tray itself.
      Not sure if I explained that well enough. Ha
      Awesome build either way.

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      @@derricksnow2669 yep yep gotcha good idea.

  • @beardbuilds5140
    @beardbuilds5140 2 месяца назад

    Why don’t you use a design like a ratcheting Jackstand but in stead of supporting something it is used in the opposite direction to hold the bike footpeg down
    Pull the bike up into position and drop the Jackstand style supports in from the top after the bike is in position. Obviously the head would need to be designed to accommodate the foot peg but that’s the easy part . Then when you want to get the bike off , lift the pawl lever and pull the centre section out
    Hope that makes sense !

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey mate, yep I think I get it. Nice idea - cheers!

  • @gregsmith3366
    @gregsmith3366 2 месяца назад

    I put a flag on the canopy doors so when they’re open you can see them in the rear view mirrors
    We’ve all driven off with them open 😂

  • @ellietthillery8204
    @ellietthillery8204 2 месяца назад +1

    Froth the engineering aspect but would hate to see that offroad...
    Go back simple for peg tie downs, over centre latch or turn buckles with hoooks

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад

      It only really needs to see dirt roads I reckon, how far offroad do you really take moto trailers? I like the idea for the simple foot peg holders. But I really want to make them solid mounts for rigidity!

    • @ellietthillery8204
      @ellietthillery8204 2 месяца назад +1

      @DesignedandBuilt all depends where your going on adventure, weekend warrioring or full tour. All personal preferences...
      Yea they are rigid as fuk, used them or trailers and mo-tows on back of wagon ✌️

  • @posko76
    @posko76 2 месяца назад

    You've seen motocinch I'm sure.

  • @SuperDans85
    @SuperDans85 2 месяца назад

    You probably don't like the look of them but m12 turnbuckles work the best

    • @DesignedandBuilt
      @DesignedandBuilt  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey Dan, my concern for those is given the bike is on an angle I wanted solid mounts as a failsafe incase the front wheel holder failed!

  • @yamumatittys
    @yamumatittys Месяц назад

    Shit bolting that down so quickly, can ya work on my car? I will give you 10 minutes.😅😅😅

  • @MP-sx6ce
    @MP-sx6ce 2 месяца назад +1

    Over engineering vs using a ratchet strap.

  • @pitt42075
    @pitt42075 2 месяца назад

    Tilting rack would be better. I didn’t care for it from the start but now your rig is single purpose. There is reason people use aluminum ladder ramps and a truck bed… just sayin

    • @Cr480mx
      @Cr480mx 2 месяца назад +2

      If you watched the video you'd have seen the entire shell is removable so he can still use it as needed...

  • @eclay91
    @eclay91 2 месяца назад

    This guy is going to be so upset when he learns about trailers...